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An Untold Tale: Steven DeKnight Discusses Smallville’s Justice League Spinoff

In previously-unpublished interview material, Steven DeKnight discusses a Smallville Justice League spinoff that never happened.

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Recently on Twitter, writer-producer Steven DeKnight (Marvel’s Daredevil, Spartacus) made a reference to a Justice League spinoff from Smallville that almost happened a decade ago. The series would have been led by Justin Hartley as Green Arrow/Oliver Queen — five years before Stephen Amell took on the hood — and characters including Bart Allen, Cyborg, and Aquaman, all from the Smallville episode “Justice” which DeKnight wrote and directed, were to be a part of it.

Smallville Justice“Justice” was one of the highest-rated episodes of Smallville and was also one of the highest-rated TV episodes in The CW’s ten-year history.

Nine years ago, in doing interviews for the Smallville: The Official Companion book for Season 6, this writer spoke with DeKnight about the “Justice” episode, and while the book itself has a lot of quotes related to what we saw on the screen, a lot of the talk about the Justice League spinoff was excised. As those quotes were not published, we are sharing them here for the first time.

“There were a couple of different plans that never quite came to fruition,” DeKnight revealed during the interview for the book. “At one point we were planning a spin-off; we were starting to put it together.”

“It was going to be basically Green Arrow, Cyborg, Flash, a couple of other DC characters living in Metropolis,” DeKnight recalled. “The idea was that Oliver Queen was basically giving refuge to young people with superpowers, kind of in a Professor X kind of way, putting together this team and also trying to help out these people, like he says in ‘Justice’ about how he helped out Victor Stone and Bart and Arthur Curry.”

manyfacesjla2The Justice League spinoff would have been teed up in Smallville’s Season 6 finale. “The idea with that was that Green Arrow was going to appear towards the end and help Clark with his final battle, provide him with an important piece of information. As it was in the season, we actually find out that Green Arrow and his crew of superheroes have been attacking the 33.1 installations. In ‘Prototype’ they provide the information on how to penetrate the prototype’s forcefield. But originally he was going to come back and help out, and that was going to springboard the spin-off that, ultimately, just never happened,” he said.

Sadly, it was not meant to be. “I was supposed to co-create it and run it, so I’m doubly sad. We were all really excited about it, you know, me and the other actors. We all got along great. We really wanted to make this show, and we thought it would be really, really cool,” DeKnight lamented.

sv6companionWhat might we have seen in a Justice League spinoff? We don’t know, but one plan might have included Brainiac — even possibly in a different form, played by a different actor if James Marsters had been busy. “We had talked about bringing Brainiac back, quite possibly in a different form, played by a different actor. We’d kicked around some ideas for bringing him back as somebody else from the Buffyverse, which would’ve been a fun nod. We talked about bringing him back as a woman. And I wouldn’t be surprised at some point between now and the time the show wraps up that Brainiac pops back up,” he said, predicting something that ultimately did not happen. DeKnight revealed that he did have a master plan for Brainiac in the spinoff. “I had a master plan for Brainiac showing up in the spin-off that I won’t tell you what it is, because you never know, a spin-off may happen in the future, and I will use this. But it was awesome,” he said.

Smallville: The Official Companion Season 6 is still available on Amazon.com – order a copy and show the publisher there’s still demand, because this writer would still enjoy finishing the series someday, and there are more stories like this one within! And if you’d like more Smallville Untold Tales, please let us know!

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  1. Lu Reindeer

    September 1, 2016 at 6:30 am

    Hell yes I like Smallville I always did, I’ve seen the entire show twice and all do it again and again I never get tired of watching it. I guess is because I grew up with the show best show ever.

  2. Forry

    September 7, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    I hadn’t really watched Smallville until this past month. As a fan of Amell’s Arrow I actually started watching Smallville from Green Arrow’s first appearance to see if I dug it. I was almost instantly reminded of why Superman was my favorite hero. I loved the characters, it would have been great to see a Justice League show, but I don’t if it was exactly the right time. I do wish though that the current DCETVU hadn’t forsaken those 10 years of world building to basically use the same formulas and heroes without any of the familiar faces. I understand Hartley & Amell would have created continuity issues, but I would have gotten over it to finally see my era’s Clark Kent in full Superman regalia even once.

    • Forry

      September 7, 2016 at 1:43 pm

      Oh yeah, BTW, now I’m starting smallville from the beginning so it’s like I’m getting a backstory to the backstory. cool way to enjoy the show.

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Supergirl & Smallville Writers Have A New Comic Book-Inspired Series

Eric Carrasco, Alfredo Septien, and Turi Meyer will be showrunners for El Gato starring Diego Boneta.

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Prime Video, which recently has been the home of some of the best comic book-inspired series with shows like Invincible and The Boys, is currently casting a live-action adaptation of the comic book series El Gato Negro by Richard Dominguez. (El Gato Negro translates to “The Black Cat,” so we wouldn’t be surprised if there is a title change to avoid Marvel’s Black Cat.) With the working title El Gato, the showrunners include veterans from Supergirl and Smallville.

Eric Carrasco wrote several memorable episodes of Supergirl between Seasons 2 and 4 and eventually served as a story editor on the series. He wrote the Justice League vs. the Fatal Five animated feature and is a producer for Zack Snyder’s upcoming Twilight of the Gods. He’s also been an Uber — err Ride Me Now driver for two stoners from New Jersey in their reboot movie. What’s also very cool about Eric is that one of his earliest industry jobs was working on a TV series called Smallville. Perhaps you’ve heard of it.

The other two showrunners need no introduction when it comes to SmallvilleAlfredo Septien & Turi Meyer were among the most prolific writers for the show, on the team for six seasons with episodes including “Vengeance,” “Labyrinth,” “Bride,” “Salvation,” and “Finale Part 1.” Turi Meyer also directed two episodes of Smallville, and the two of them returned to the DC Universe with DC’s Stargirl on The CW in recent years.

The series will star Diego Boneta as the main character, Frank Guerrero, who returns home to Mexico after the death of his father and finds himself neck-deep in a nest of vipers – his estranged family – who are vying for control of his father’s business empire. But Frank’s grief is interrupted when he learns his only inheritance, a seemingly worthless parcel of land on the border, sits atop the lair of a famous costumed vigilante — his father, “El Gato.” Now, Frank is in the crosshairs. To survive, he’ll have to solve mysteries decades in the making and unravel the truth about his father’s connections to a modern-day terror plot.

“This is a pulp thriller,” Eric Carrasco said in a quote posted by Variety earlier this year. “It’s a family drama, it’s everything I love about spies and masks and secret identities. A lot of us on this team – Diego, and Andrew Mittman, and Steve Stark, and Carla Gonzalez Vargas, and I – have been at this for a long time now, and it’s a genuine thrill to finally make the show with MGM Television and Prime Video.”

El Gato will be produced by MGM Television which is part of Amazon MGM Studios. Hopefully we’ll learn more about this project as development progresses! For now, though, congratulations to Eric, Al, and Turi!

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“Justice” Wasn’t Smallville’s Only Justice League Spinoff Attempt

The Smallville Season 6 episode “Justice” may not have been the only time a Justice League spinoff was proposed.

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A 2016 KryptonSite post where we shared outtakes from the Smallville: The Official Companion Season 6 book in which Smallville producer/director/writer Steven DeKnight talked about the possibilities that the “Justice” episode could lead to a spinoff has recently been discussed in several places on the Internet, and what wasn’t really talked about in that post is that it wasn’t the only time a Justice League-like spinoff from Smallville had been proposed.

The most commonly known possibility aside from “Justice” has been spoken about on the record by Smallville creators Alfred Gough and Miles Millar. One place that this proposal was talked about was in an interview with author/journalist Ed Gross in his “Voices From Krypton” magazine published in 2006.

In the story relayed by Alfred Gough in the magazine, he and Miles had pitched a Lois Lane series in 2000, before they even came on for Smallville. Instead, of course, they found out they could pitch Smallville, and the rest was history, but five years later, Warner Bros. contacted the producers and asked about the Lois Lane idea again, since by this point the world of Smallville already had a Lois Lane in Erica Durance.

“We thought we couldn’t do the idea we were going to do five years earlier,” Gough explained, as the original Lois Lane pitch was an “Ally McBeal meets Nancy Drew” type show in which she would solve Night Stalker-like cases – especially since there were other shows that were doing the same thing by that point. Gough and Millar have since talked about how they wanted to pair Lois Lane with some young heroes in Metropolis, which may have been part of the project’s downfall. “Ultimately, we wanted too many characters from the DC Universe and the feeling was that it would change the Metropolis mythology, even though this was all pre-Superman. It wasn’t really the Superman movie [Superman Returns] that was the problem, it was more because we wanted characters that they feared would alter the mythology of Metropolis. So that was dead in the water,” Gough said. Warner Bros.’ Peter Roth would again approach the producers, though, when the episode “Aqua” aired, and that ultimately led to the development of the Aquaman series, though, of course, that wasn’t directly tied to Smallville and Justin Hartley replaced Alan Ritchson in the role. But we’re getting ahead of ourselves…

The next proposal, mentioned above, would have spun out of “Justice” and involved Oliver Queen (Justin Hartley) and some other young heroes in Metropolis, borrowing a little bit from that Lois Lane idea. You can read Steven DeKnight’s thoughts about that here. At the time, DeKnight sounded optimistic as if a spinoff could someday still happen; unfortunately, that wasn’t something he would have been able to do himself as he departed Smallville in 2007 for the short-lived Viva Laughlin; he later had great success with Spartacus a few years later. But… this might not have been the only time Smallville attempted to spin off the Justice League.

The Season 7 episode “Siren” saw the return of Oliver Queen and in that episode, we also met Dinah Lance a.k.a. the Black Canary. Their departure at the end of the episode felt like it was setting up a spinoff, but as far as we know at the time that wasn’t a concern, especially as the episode was written prior to a writers’ strike that derailed the TV season. However, a series of events around the Season 8 premiere “Odyssey” have inspired some still-unconfirmed rumors that are worth discussing.

For starters, after The CW signed Justin Hartley to a talent deal and he had done two other pilots for the network, Smallville was able to get him back, this time as a series regular for Seasons 8-10. Season 8 was a period of major change for the show following the departures of Michael Rosenbaum, Kristin Kreuk, and John Glover, so an additional familiar face was nice to see around. Fellow Justice Leaguers Black Canary and Aquaman were also present for that Season 8 premiere… and, oddly, there was a series of promotional photos that featured the characters. This is odd in the sense that usually, these kinds of photo shoots are only done for series regulars. Also odd is that these photos were used for a Smallville Season 8 “poster” that also included series regulars Tom Welling, Erica Durance, and Allison Mack. We get why Justin Hartley would be on the poster, but why were Alaina Huffman (Black Canary) and Alan Ritchson (Aquaman) there?!?!

That leads us to the first rumor, which again, is unconfirmed: We once heard talk that a Justice League mini-pilot was actually shot following the filming of “Odyssey,” using Hartley, Huffman, and Ritchson who were already in Vancouver to film. Aside from the photo gallery, though, we haven’t seen any proof that this actually happened. Do note that this may not have had much conflict with George Miller’s proposed Justice League movie around that time, which mostly involved other characters.

The second thing might have some legs, but if it was a serious proposal, it was never shot: As the end of filming for Season 8 approached, Tom Welling still had not signed a contract for Seasons 9 and 10. Yes, there was a distinct possibility that “Doomsday” could have been the end, and yes, that would have been awful. But, the rumors we were hearing here at KryptonSite at that time is that if Tom had not signed on, or if his fate was still uncertain, a short Justice League-ish pilot involving the “Doomsday” Justice League guest stars would have been shot, again because those actors were already in town. Alaina Huffman and Kyle Gallner (Impulse) appeared in that episode, as did one of the Legion of Super-Heroes (Ryan Kennedy as Cosmic Boy). This, of course, never ended up happening as Tom Welling signed back on and Smallville got two more seasons to end up at 10.

With ten seasons of Smallville, it is a shame that the show never was able to spawn a spinoff, though being the only show of its kind for most of its run had to have had benefits. The show is still being talked to today and fondly remembered by fans of each era of the series. It is still fun, though, to speculate on what might have been….

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Kristin Kreuk Discusses Lana Lang’s Smallville Ending & Season 10 Return Invite

Kristin Kreuk discussed several Smallville topics at the recent Superman Celebration in Illinois.

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Kristin Kreuk recently attended the Superman Celebration in Metropolis, Illinois and the Superman Homepage was able to get her panel on video! Kristin touched upon many topics in the nearly 45 minute long panel, but most interestingly, she revealed that she had indeed been invited to return for Smallville’s final season, but she had declined.

“I just wanted her to be off in imaginary land,” Kristin told the panel moderator. “I wanted her to keep living the life that she had gone off to live, and I didn’t want to bring her back into the world. I really struggled with all of the love triangle stuff and I just didn’t see how we’d come back and add another closure to the story that wasn’t about Clark and Lois.”

She was asked about that conclusion that Lana had in Smallville Season 8, which she said she liked based on the story that Smallville had been telling. “I like that she got to have her independence and got to find the path forward for herself that was tied to what she believed in, her moral compass, her values. I like that she got to separate herself from these men. If the show had been a different show, would there have been a different ending? Maybe, yes. But I like that. Because her stories were so tied to these men, it was such a nice thing for her to honor herself,” she said.

One thing Kristin Kreuk does not think about, though, is that Lois “replaced” Lana on the series. “I didn’t think of it that way,” Kristin told a fan. “I never did. I thought they were two different storylines, and I really struggle with the idea that one woman replaces another woman, and I struggle with the idea that these womens’ lives don’t continue on, and they aren’t full and beautiful lives. So, I don’t know that she was replaced by someone else; I think that her connection to Clark changes, and she builds her own future. That’s how I saw it, anyway.”

And would Kristin have any advice to give teenaged Lana Lang, if they were to meet?

“Part of me just wants her to avoid that tall, dark haired blue eyed guy. Just avoid him entirely. I know he’s beautiful, and his heart’s so good, but what would have happened if she just went to therapy and found a caretaker who wasn’t Nell, and lived a normal life… what could have been?”

With that said, though, some of the wild things that Lana Lang went through on Smallville were a lot of fun for an actor, where there’s always a sense of wondering what will happen next. “That’s the fun thing about being on a fantasy show. You get to do crazy stuff. You can be possessed by a witch for a season of a TV show. You can become a vampire. You can be sprayed by a flower and act like a crazy person. There’s an unlimited number of wild things you can do, and when you’re doing 21, 22 episodes a season, you’ve gotta keep it fresh a little bit, right?”

And yes, she would consider a Smallville reunion. “We’ve talked about this a lot. I think we’re all open to it. I know that we’re not babies anymore,” she admitted. “The boys have been working on this animated thing for a million years now. I don’t know what’s happening with that, but that has been the main idea, I think, moving forward.”

You can watch video of the panel below.

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