The Krypton Club Newsletter #200!

ISSUE #200
JANUARY
2000

"Oh please! I'll go to jail, I'll strap myself in the electric chair, just DON'T make me listen to this!"
-- Tempus, "Tempus Fugitive"

HELLO!
A special triple-length newsletter is here to mark the 200th issue of the Krypton Club Newsletter. I'd like to send out a special "thanks" to those of you who made it so I was able to get the back issues I needed, especially since reading all that fun old stuff has really given me some incentive to keep things going for a little while :-)

Since there's so much in this issue, here's a handy-dandy Index to what you can find:

News
Lane Davies on "3rd Rock," Dean Cain's new film, and more!
The Lois & Clark 10: #1 Picks
The best and worst episodes of "Lois & Clark," as chosen by the fans.
The 2000 Best Things....
For the new year, Nick at Nite's TV Land did a list of the 2000 Best Things about Television. Several Lois & Clark and Superman-related things made this list!
Brad Buckner Interview
From the Krypton Club archives, an interview with "Lois & Clark" executive producer Brad Buckner that was done around the time of the "dreaded" Clone Arc.
Crossovers We'll Never See
What if "Lois & Clark" crossed over with another series? Here's what some fans thought.
200 Newsletters!
A list of over 200 Lois & Clark quotes from the series, alongside a checklist of ALL 200 newsletters so far (including mailing dates).
(Also inside is a L&C trivia question)

For upcoming newsletters, I'd love to try out the Fanfiction thing, for an issue or two... so if you have your L&C fanfic (preferably involving an A-plot AND a B-plot, and even better if it's a "reunion story") that you'd like to share, send it our way.

Thanks to everyone who's stayed with the newsletter since the beginning. I understand that there have probably been some boring points to go with the high points -- for you all and for me. Like I said before, being able to go through old newsletters and stuff has really gotten me excited again, as has the new website. (http://members.aol.com/planetkrypton) Hopefully the fun will continue. So much has changed for me in then nearly 5 years since the first newsletter -- back then I was 17, in my last week of *high school!* Not to mention we were writing about a show that was still on the air at the time!

One final factoid: If the newsletters had remained daily, as they were when things first started, this would be something like newsletter #1700. (Ouch!) It makes me sleepy just thinking about it...

Craig Byrne
President of the L&C Krypton Club

Dean Cain's "Ripley's Believe it or Not" is a ratings hit. The show snagged the third-most adults 18-34 of any broadcast or cable network during its time slot with 1.13 million, beating that demographic for even "Dateline" and "JAG." The show also got TBS's highest rating ever for the premiere of a nonsports-related original series. "Ripley's" airs Wednesday nights at 8:05 on the TBS cable network.

Lane "Tempus" Davies is currently recurring on "3rd Rock from the Sun" as the new chancellor ("can't seem to get away from those damned aliens," Lane says...) He also tells us that he might be caught on reruns of Jesse, Love Boat, Just Shoot Me, Ladies Man, Working, Clueless, Oh, Baby, and a few others. His first "3rd Rock" should air in a week or two, and he recently shot his second episode.

Premiere magazine reports that Dean Cain will soon be appearing in the $1.5-million budgeted film "The Broken Hearts Club." Much like Dean's role in "Best Men," this character is homosexual, although female fans can be reassured that the Man of Steel is still all about rescuing *damsels* in distress. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Krypton Club members and Craig-friends Taylor Johns and Mitchell Roche have set up a new website, http://www.internetbox-office.com, where they've presented their extremely funny, award-winning "Mighty Mouse: The E! True Hollywood Story." Check it out!

THE LOIS & CLARK 10: #1
by Craig Byrne

Now were at the #1 picks for Best and Worst Episodes of Lois & Clark, as voted by the fans. Keep reading for a review of the top ten.

#1 Best Episode
"Tempus Fugitive"
Episode #39 * Written by Jack Weinstein & Lee Hutson
Guest Starring: Terry Kiser, Robert Costanzo, Don Swayze, Joshua Devane, and Lane Davies as "Tempus"

"And don't pretend that hurt, Superman!"

How long had we been waiting for Lois to go up to Clark and slap him for all his lying to him? And how long had the fans been yelling at the screen "Hey stupid, it's not Cheese of the Month, he's going to do the Super thing?" Luckily, some writers thought the same thing by introducing Tempus -- a character from a Utopian future brought back to the past by H.G. Wells. Tempus decides he's going to wipe Superman out of existence by getting rid of him as a baby in 1966 Smallville. The episode goes through several time periods, including a scene where we meet Clark's parents in their younger days.

The highlight for fans, besides someone finally putting Lois in her place, was this was the first time we got to see the reaction Lois would have if she *did* find out, and what would happen next -- Would she accept Clark as Clark, even with some "schmutz" on his S?

Actor Lane Davies played Tempus in "Fugitive" and four episodes later on in the series' run. When asked what he thought of Tempus's continuing appeal, he said "Regarding the success of 'Tempus Fugitive'--Had to be the 'How dumb was she?' rift. Who wouldn't relish the chance to tell Lois Clark's real identity? I feel privileged to have been granted the honor..." And for the fans, seeing a character as sarcastic and fun as Tempus be the one to tell the truth made things all the more gratifying.

#1 Worst Episode
"The Family Hour"
Episode #87 * Written by Eugenie Ross-Leming & Brad Buckner
Guest Starring: Brian George, Harve Presnell, Beverly Garland, and Harry Anderson as "Fat Head"

If you're Superman, do you tell the guy who once created evil cyborgs to fight you your true identity, or do you go to your normal doctor, Dr. Klein, to tell him the news?

If you see a guy with this really big head and telekinetic powers, is it really smart to call him "Fat Head?"

And if you're not sure if your show is going to last another season, is it really a good idea to end things on a cliffhanger?

"The Family Hour" brought these questions and more. A lame villain, cheesy dialogue (I know some fans loved the "You fill me with life" stuff, but it made me gag), and all-around bummers made it no fun. (Why even bring UP the baby thing if they're just going to be told they can't do it?)

The only thing all these years later, that I still enjoy now, were the scenes with Beverly Garland as Ellen Lane. The character was hilarious and this episode was no exception. "What's the secret? I want to know the secret!" I wish her character had been used more through the show.

Finally, there was Dr. "Fat Head" Mensa, played by the otherwise talented Harry Anderson. Most of Batman's 1960's villains looked less ridiculous. But "Fat Head" was a perfect example of how the show had fallen since the early days under Deborah Joy LeVine. Can you imagine Fat Head and Lex Luthor in the same episode? I didn't think so.

Some fans voted "Family Hour" as #1 worst not because of the content; some may have actually liked it. But the whole idea that it was a FINAL episode, whereas we were given no finality at all, was also an extreme frustration. And sadly, the fifth season only existed in the minds of the writers, and of course, in fanfiction....

The Favorites
#1 "Tempus Fugitive"
#2 "Season's Greedings"
#3 "The Pilot"
#4 "Pheromone, My Lovely"
#5 "And The Answer Is"
#6 "Whine, Whine, Whine"
#7 "We Have A Lot To Talk About"
#8 "Tempus, Anyone?"
#9 "Soul Mates"
#10 "Honeymoon in Metropolis"

It's obvious from this list that the early episodes that dropped hints of a romance as well as romatic moments themselves made it on. Also apparent here is the popularity of the character of Tempus -- who was on *three* of the top ten episodes. These ten are also signs of several revelations for the show -- whether it's the first hand holding, the first really really hot kiss, the first something-else, or the first time Lois figured out that hello, duh, Clark was Superman. These ten are "musts" for any new viewer to see, to know the best of what "Lois & Clark" had to offer.

The Least Favorites
#1 "The Family Hour"
#2 "Swear To God, This Time We're Not Kidding"
#3 "I Now Pronounce You..."
#4 "Double Jeopardy"
#5 "Seconds"
#6 "Toy Story"
#7 "Forget Me Not"
#8 "Contact"
#9 "Never on Sunday"
#10 "Oedipus Wrecks"

Sadly, one thing that irritated fans to no end was the old "Bait and switch." Fans left in droves, disgusted by the fake clone/amnesia wedding and the placement of *every* episode from that Arc makes that obvious. When Lois and Clark finally did get married, instead of the big lavish wedding we got some surreal thing with "Mike." Generally bad episodes such as "Toy Story" also made the list, and finally, the #1 loser of all was the final episode of the series, "The Family Hour."

THE 2000 BEST THINGS....
Nick at Nite's TV Land did a list of the 2000 Best Things About Television for the last century. After extensive research (okay, just going through the list) we found that 27 of these things happened on "Lois & Clark." Take a look:

#79 Amnesia Episodes
Okay, fans probably wish this one never happened on L&C, but it did, as Lois hit her head in "Double Jeopardy," which led her into believing she was a lounge singer named "Wanda Detroit."

#338 Evil Twin Episodes
This one happened on "L&C" several times. The first time was in the first season episode "Vatman," when Lex Luthor created a clone Superman. Then in the second season premiere, "Madame Ex," there was a Lois lookalike. Finally, the dreaded "Arc" of the third season also figured in a clone of Lois.

#341 Fred Willard
Did all of these things come in the Arc? Sure seems like it... Fred Willard made his first appearance on "Lois & Clark" as President Garner in "I Now Pronounce You." President Garner returned for "Meet John Doe" the next year.

#504 Superman's Opening Narration: "It's a bird, it's a plane..."
This is probably more of a reference to the 1950s TV series, but the "Bird/Plane" thing was referred to in the "L&C" pilot. "Nahh... it's just a guy in a pair of tights and a cape!"

#517 Martin Mull
Mull played the nature show host "Marlin Finch Loopis" in the popular episode "Whine Whine Whine." Look for more "WWW" vets further down this list.

#561 Drew Carey
Drew Carey, star of the "Drew Carey Show," played "Herbie Staxe" in the L&C episode "Ghosts" back when his show was new and not as well-known.

#575 Perry White
Lois and Clark's Elvis-loving editor made the Top 2000. Great Shades of Elvis! Perry was played by Lane Smith on L&C, and by John Hamilton in the 1950's series.

#726 Role Reversal Episodes
Sometimes it's fun to see what it's like in other people's shoes. That's what Lex Luthor got to know for the short virtual reality scene in "The House of Luthor." Although, the best "role-reversal" story on L&C was in "Ultra Woman," where exposure to Red Kryptonite transferred the powers of Clark's over to Lois.

#825 Robert Culp
Robert Culp, best known for his roles on "I Spy" and hanging around another hero in "the Greatest American Hero," appeared on the second-season episodes "Top Copy" and "Lucky Leon" as a member of Intergang.

#867 Adam West & #1249 Frank Gorshin
"Batman" veterans Adam West and Frank Gorshin (who originally played Batman and the Riddler) both made appearances on the episode "Whine Whine Whine" -- West as a talk-show host much like Jerry Springer; and Gorshin as a ruthless lawyer.

#956 Sherman Helmsley & #1951 Isabel Sanford
The "Jeffersons" couple also made an appearance on L&C as Winslow Schott and his assistant, Mrs. Duffy, in the well-loved Christmas episode "Season's Greedings."

#959 David Doyle
One of David Doyle's final appearances before his death in 1997 was in "Swear To God, This Time We're Not Kidding" as the angel Mike who made sure that Lois and Clark's wedding actually did happen.

#1066 Harry Anderson
Whoever made this list didn't remember Fat Head, obviously. Before "The Family Hour" Anderson was known for his popular roles in "Night Court" and "Dave's World."

#1222 Dick Van Patten
The former "Eight is Enough" father figure played the man who ran the orphanage in "Season's Greedings."

#1370 Howie Mandel
Howie Mandel played Mr. Mxyzptlk in the episode "Twas The Night Before Mxymas." You might recognize his voice from "Bobby's World," or you may have seen his talk show.

#1466 Superman (as played by George Reeves)
They just HAD to point out the "As played by George Reeves" part, didn't they? Oh well... it IS Superman....

#1535 Delta Burke
Oh no, it's the Wedding Destroyer! Delta is another one of those people who is lucky that her L&C appearance isn't all she is remembered for. Her most popular role was the one she had for several years on "Designing Women." Swear to god, this time we're not kidding.

#1568 That David Doyle and Tom Bosley were mistaken for each other
David Doyle, as mentioned earlier, played "Mike" in "Swear To God This Time We're Not Kidding"... but among FoLCs, even after the "Mike" episode aired, people still got confused over whether or not it was Doyle or Bosley. The fact that Doyle's Charlie's Angels character's name was Bosley didn't help matters.

#1703 Mac Davis
Singer Mac Davis played "Larry Smiley" in "Just Say Noah." Hold on, the phone is ringing. Oh, the episode was on four years ago, you probably don't get the joke.

#1734 Show fan web sites
"Lois & Clark" was one of the first TV shows to have a big Internet following. At one time Teri Hatcher's picture was downloaded more than any other. Now the Web is a huge gigantic creature, but back then, things were a lot more sparse.

#1797 Ben Stein
The star of "Win Ben Stein's Money" also made an appearance in the all-star "Whine Whine Whine" as a lawyer.

#1914 Michael McKean
Best known as "Lenny" from "Laverne & Shirley," McKean appeared in the L&C episode "Vatman."

#1931 That Jimmy Olsen was always getting beat up by thugs
Well, that's at least something we wished for. This was probably a 1950's "Adventures of Superman" reference, but we'll take it anyway.

#1993 Morgan Fairchild
Finally, Miranda of "Pheromone My Lovely" makes the last name on this list. Not bad, eh?

Four years ago, for the Krypton Club's 100th newsletter, then-executive producer Brad Buckner was kind enough to grant us with an interview. In this interview (conducted during the time of the "Clone Arc"), Brad talks about what he did before L&C, continuity, returning characters, and favorite moments.

By Craig Byrne - Originally presented in Krypton Club Newsletter #100 (March 23, 1996)

"Being with you is stronger than me alone."

"And you know, you put up with me for the same reason I put up with you, it's because I'm completely in love with you!" "And... I love you." "Did we just make up?" "I think so."

"And you took my hand and said, 'Jimmy! I can make a man of you!'"

"If I give you the gun I can't shoot Lois... duh!"

All of these quotes have something in common... they all came from the minds of "Lois & Clark" co-executive producers Brad Buckner and Eugenie Ross-Leming, who not only spend long hours every day to bring us the world's greatest television show, but also were the writers us such favorite episodes as "Ordinary People," "Just Say Noah," "Home is Where the Hurt Is," and "Double Jeopardy." We have been fortunate enough to be able to have an interview with one of them for this 100th issue of the Krypton Club Newsletter.

Before we start, let me tell you a little bit about Brad... one would probably assume him and the other L&C people to have these huge egos and all; after all, they've seen how obsessive we fans can be. This couldn't be farther from the truth. Brad acted like a regular guy, not affected at all by the power of being one of those who control one of America's Top 20 shows. We also can't start with this interview without thanking Tom Whelan, Brad's assistant and really nice person. Thanks for everything, Brad and Tom... you're awesome =^) Now, let us start with the first question of the interview...

CRAIG: Can you tell us the story of how you and Eugenie began to work together?

BRAD: We were introduced by a mutual friend of ours, who was a director. Neither of us had ever worked with a partner; Eugenie actually was an actress in Second City at Chicago, and came out here and did a lot of acting. I was a struggling writer, trying to write spec scripts and other stuff, and [thought] we might hit it off with one another, and we did, and within a few months we sold our first sitcom half-hour.

CRAIG: And what was that for?

BRAD: It was for a Danny Thomas show called "The Practice." [As opposed to a David E. Kelley show called "The Practice"--interrupting-editor-Craig-in-2000]

CRAIG: And then you went on to "Scarecrow and Mrs. King," right?

BRAD: We created "Scarecrow and Mrs. King." That ran for four or five years.

CRAIG: Did you think "Scarecrow" changed after the lead characters of the show got married?

BRAD: Yeah, and the show kept changing, because we just underwent a lot of changes in leadership. We only lasted a year; that was all we wanted to do with it, and it would change and the show kept changing in tone. I didn't even really watch it much after we left; I collected my checks...

CRAIG: When did you join the crew of "Lois & Clark?"

BRAD: Just last year. I think we started in the first week of June last year.

CRAIG: Were you familiar with the Superman characters before you came on to the show?

BRAD: I was familiar with the Superman characters from reading the comics as a kid; I didn't read a lot, but I knew basically the idea and I didn't watch the show that much.

CRAIG: When the two of you are working on an episode together, how do you split up the writing chores?

BRAD: What we do -- and not everybody works this way -- is lay out the story together, on that bulletin board right there (points), and hang cards act by act. Every scene gets an index card, and we have the teaser and four acts, and then we just divide it up -- she takes her stack of cards to her room, and I sit down in here, and we each write half the show, and then we swap, and we go over each other's stuff.

CRAIG: [Of the characters on "L&C"] Are there particular characters that you find to be more fun to write?

BRAD: Lois and Clark.

CRAIG: And which characters are the most challenging to write?

BRAD: They're both the most fun to write and the most challenging, because they're the most complicated characters of the show. They get the most screen time; and so you can afford to go into different levels of their behavior. Lois is tough but has a lot of vulnerability and a lot of insecurity too, and Clark on the surface is a great guy and very patient [LOL..."patient" --Craig] but he has those buttons that when pushed emotionally you get different reactions out of him. They're really interesting, and the two actors play off of each other so well.

CRAIG: Of all the scenes that you've done in this season during episodes you've written or produced so far, which scenes stand out as being your favorites?

BRAD: Probably the most recent episode of ours that aired, "Double Jeopardy," and a lot of the Lex Luthor scenes. John [Shea] is wonderful, and his scenes with Dean were great. I loved some of the stuff with Dean and the clone, when he was angry with the clone and he discovered at the Daily Planet that she was a clone. Everyone felt bad for him, and it was startling to a lot of people, because you've never seen him grab Teri and shake her and get angry with her.

CRAIG: Teri did a wonderful job in that episode, playing so many characters that were so completely different. Thanks for writing in Teri singing too, she has a great voice.

BRAD: She does. She took it really seriously; to prepare for doing that episode, she worked with a vocal coach for a couple of weeks, and then laid down the track on tape.

CRAIG: In all of the episodes that you've written, do you have a favorite line?

BRAD: Hmm... well, I actually like this one that one of the writers framed and gave me...

(Brad walks over to his bulletin board, and brings the quote inside the frame over to me. The quote was "Honey, there will always be another headless corpse. Love comes only once.")

CRAIG: Are there any characters or villains from the past of the show that you'd like to see come back next year?

BRAD: Past seasons, or this year? Lex Luthor, absolutely, he just keeps coming back, you can't kill him with a stick....

CRAIG: Asabi's gonna save him, just watch <G>

BRAD: Asabi was so interesting, because he had a very limited role in the episodes we'd seen him in earlier, and we didn't even know what his range as an actor was, and he was fabulous! We liked the Lakes a lot (the people who collected them, and had them in the cages)....

CRAIG: How about any of the old characters, like Dan Scardino and Cat Grant, will they be returning?

BRAD: I don't think you're gonna see Cat again, and these were decisions that were made before I got here, it just was not something they felt worked out real well for the show. And then Scardino was only useful really as sort of a triangle, to get them closer and closer together, now we are are able to do less and less of that.

CRAIG: How about Star, will we see her again?

BRAD: You know, she's having a baby right now! (laughs)

CRAIG: Of course, there's always next season =^) Okay... when you write an episode, do you write it for particular guest stars, or with certain people in mind?

BRAD: No, because you have to work so far in advance and there are so many difficulties involving getting a guest star because people's schedules are so weird and our hours are so long, and because of the way our production works, it is very difficult to give guest stars exactly what they need in terms of schedule, so generally, we just come up with the villain or the guest part, and write it however we want to write it.

CRAIG: And is there anyone you'd like to get on the show as a guest star?

BRAD: Oh, gosh, yes... we actually tried hard to get Marlon Brando.. they were thinking about it for a while! That would be fabulous... it's interesting because this year, the show is so successful this year, that people who formerly had no interest in doing the show suddenly became available to us... Shelley Long did the show, Jonathan Frakes and Genie Francis did a show... I think if you can get a ball rolling like that, where it starts to become like an "in" thing to do, it's exciting.

CRAIG: Can you describe the process of putting together an episode?

BRAD: Basically, we started way back last June, and we basically laid out the arc for the whole 22 episodes, just in the loosest form knowing that the romance was going to take us through the whole season, and then we focused in particular on the first seven episodes, because it took that many episodes to get her to say "Yes, I'll marry you," so we knew kind of the roller coaster that the relationship had to ride, and once we had that in position, and then we could hang all of the villainy and the action plots around that. But generally, it takes a couple of weeks to get a script written, and then it has to go through all its rewrites, but while that's happening they start prepping the show, so the shows to take 7 days to prep, and that's planning the sets, the locations.... So it takes 7 days to prep, 8 days to shoot an episode, and then another week and a half to post the show. It's a long process....

CRAIG: And what is your favorite part of this process?

BRAD: Obviously we love writing the episodes, and writing the scripts...

CRAIG: Has there ever been a story or concept that you talked about doing that completely evolved into something else?

BRAD: Probably the wedding episode underwent the most change, because generally the way the show works, the action part of the plot has to go hand-in-hand with the relationship, and they almost get equal amounts of time, and it became clear to us as we were doing the wedding that the wedding and the preparation for it, the relationship REALLY had to be center stage, so the action plot took a back seat, which I guess bothered some people who watched the show because of the action, but clearly the star of that episode was the wedding, and it didn't start out to be that way at all.

CRAIG: What kinds of stories do you like to tell the most?

BRAD: The ones where the relationship takes center stage are really the most interesting to us, and I think that the show is evolving more and more into that, so the action plot really affects our principles emotionally and directly; like in the Christmas show, when the action plot was about the resurgence of Intergang but what it really meant was that he was going to get this Kryptonian flu and nearly die, and that's the good kind of episode when everything really impacts on the characters.

CRAIG: The recent wedding/clone/amnesia arc got quite a response from fans, which you have probably seen. Were you expecting that at all?

BRAD: We were kind of bracing for it, because people are really passionate for the show. We weren't surprised by the reaction, but I think we were surprised by the amount of attention that it got, that all 3 of the big tabloids carried 2 pages of color and were talking about frog-eating and cloning, it was on Hard Copy, we were just staggered by the amount of attention.

CRAIG: How much input do you get from ABC and DC Comics?

BRAD: DC has a relationship with the show where we send them outlines, they kind of know what we're up to and they send back their commentary... they don't have "kill power," but we keep them posted, and they send us their comments and suggestions. A lot of them just don't work for us, because doing a comic book and doing a TV show are two different things.

CRAIG: What is your opinion on having "guest heroes" on the show?

BRAD: You mean like Spider-Man, or Batman, or...?

CRAIG: Like Batman, or the Flash, or something like that....

BRAD: I don't know how I feel about it. It's not anything that has ever intrigued us too much, because some people would really like it, but it would almost make the show too comic-booky in a wierd way, because I think we got a lot of people, a lot of the new audience this year, who were amazed that what they assumed to be a comic book was actually as real as it is, and this relationship was as mature as it is. If you start bringing in lots of Batman, and Spider-Man, and everything, you'll excite the kids & the teen audience, but I think you're gonna turn off some of the people who buy Superman, and will accept that, but when you start populating this world with too much of that kind of stuff, it becomes too comic-booky.

CRAIG: Fans notice continuity a lot; is there somebody who watches for that stuff?

BRAD: There's nobody who is particularly designated; there is somebody here who keeps the Lore, we have all of the books of all the stuff the show's done and what the comics are doing so we're aware, do you mean from episode to episode, when we say something and then we change that; can you think of an example?

CRAIG: Episode to episode... like Clark's birthday in "Never on Sunday"... he claimed to have been born in February 1966, yet he didn't even arrive in the spaceship until May... just minor stuff like that that people notice... I won't get into Lois's apartment number, because I know you guys can't help that.

BRAD: I noticed that... there is somebody who's really good, who's been with the show since the first season who catches that stuff when she can.... but in a show that's got as many details as this does, sometimes that's the least of our worries! (laughs)

After that I had already taken up more time than I should have with the interview, and Brad had to go to a meeting, so we ended the interview. Thanks again Brad for a great interview, and thanks again for everything else as well.

What show did fans think would make for a good crossover with "Lois & Clark" if it were still in the air? We'll take a trip in the dimensional-travel machine to see what some of you thought would be great Crossovers We'll Never See....

"We'll never see L&C crossover with Beauty & the Beast. I wasn't the first person to think of this, and the best example of a plot for such an event can be found at the Fanfic Archive (*Timeless*, by Becky Bain). Without spoiling too much, Tempus replaced Clark's regular pen with a quirky dimension travel device, which took our intrepid couple into a dimension that didn't even have the comics (horror!). Lois and Clark decided to make the best of what they had, until Lois happened upon a series of strange murders and decided to investigate them. The story is profoundly moving and very well plotted and characterized. We'll never see the L&C/Highlander crossover, in which Lois and Clark investigate and finally cause the indictment and conviction of the renegade Watchers. (Good Watchers observe and record the activities of immortals; renegade Watchers use the information gleaned from their colleagues to commit genocide against the "unnatural" immortals.)" -- Anne Hoijer

"I think Charmed and Lois and Clark would make a great Lois and Clark crossover. Combine "the power of three" with a super hero with powers you can make one awesome crime/warlock fighting team. Along with the fact that both Lois and Clark and the Charmed sisters have very real lives and jobs, etc. I think that aspect would make the crossover real." -- GLong10146

"Personally, I loved to see a crossover episode of L&C and the X-files. I mean, wouldn't a certain alien from the planet Krypton made one terrific X-file? Can't imagine Mulder not reading the newspapers and wanting to investigate to see if Superman's for real of not, with Scully being doubtful as always ;)" -- Claudy

"I would love to have seen a x-over between L&C and the X-Files, I can see it now: Mulder wanting to go to Metropolis to investigate Superman, the only wide known real alien and Scully not beliving he is real. And I can also see a x-over with Roswell. Maybe Max, Isabelle, and Michale contacting Superman to try and get him to help find there people and Superman finding out that Jason Trask had helped capture their parents and they were still being held by Section 32 (?) and has been trying to find the kids that were in the incubators." -- Goblin214

"Three words: Superman and Buffy. You heard right. The man of Steel fighting alongside the Slayer. The story could go like this: Everyone in Sunnydale (or wherever Buffy is located now) knows about the superhero of the east. He is real in their world. Lately, there has been a disturbance in the forces of evil. The vampires are stronger, tougher than usual, harder to beat. Buffy is concerned. She, with the rest of her crew and Giles, discover, or have already discovered that Superman is one in a historical line of super-powered heroes who champion the earth every couple hundred years or so. They would also discover that the dark forces somehow are draining his power and adding it to theirs. Meanwhile, Supes is obviously a bit slower in his step, almost missing a few rescues, and chases off a vampire that made a grab for Lois. Lois and Jimmy then find that there have been frequent reports over the last few years, of strange goings on in Sunnydale, and Supes heads over there to investigate, inevitably teaming with Buffy. Supes' ever-lowering powers leave him just a few notches above Buffy; he can no longer fly, but he can still jump high, and do some fast moves). It would be so sweet to see him training for a bit, alongside of Buffy, in like an ancient slayer costume (the traditional tights and boots would seem a little out of place). A side plot for Clark could have been him involved in a moral struggle, with himself and Buffy: killing. He's never killed before, and doesn't want to start now, vampires or not. Wow. This started out as a joke, but now I think this might've worked. Only question is, who would have crossed over to which show? :)
(side note: Jimmy and Lois could have either, a: gone with Clark to investigate for a story, and Jimmy gets bitten, fights Superman. Or b: Supes could be searching alone for a cure for a bitten Lois and/or Jimmy before it's too late.) -- Crazikidd

"Roswell / L&C would be cool and the ever popular L&C / X-Files" -- Nancy in Chicago

"I think the logical choice would be Sports Night. They are reporters and so are Lois and Clark. The show starts out with Lois interviewing for Producer of the 2am show (Sally had an accident-she feel off her 12 inch heels and broke her neck) and Clark tags along for a vacation. He wanders around the studio and meets Casey. They start to talk and find out what great fans they are of each other. Casey is caught up with the why and what Clark is doing there and they decide to go out to dinner. Casey takes this opportunity to ask Dana out and she actually says "Yes." Dana has seen Lois and doesn't know who she is, so in her half jealous state decides to rethink Casey dating other people. At the restaurant, disaster strikes when Metallo shows up. He starts destroying everything until Superman shows up and saves the day. Dana has a crazy idea about interviewing Superman on Sports Night and the Show ends with Casey asking Supes 'What sports did you play in high school'?" -- Batgirl72

A complete list of *every* Krypton Club Newsletter has not been published since way back in issue #100 (March 1996). Here's an updating; find your favorite quotes in here and don't get too upset if the quotes aren't quite right -- especially in the early days, a lot of it was guesswork.

Also in this list is a compilation of the Specials and other assorted things that had quotes at the top as well.

Part of the fun of a list like this is you can place the time period. For instance, generally new quotes from the episodes that were airing at the time made the list.

All of the following quotes came from episodes of "Lois & Clark," with the exception of the following:

#19--From the movie Batman Forever
#68--Said by Dean Cain at the Warner Bros. lot, December 1995, to a group of Krypton Club members who visited the lot.
#159--From the phony April Fool's L&C episode "Little Caped Men"
#171--From the movie Batman & Robin
#183--From Teri Hatcher's infamous "Are they real?" episode of "Seinfeld"
#192--From the "Lois & Clark" blooper reel
#193--From "The Simpsons"
#194--From "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
#195--From the movie Mystery Men
Spoiler Special #7--From the promo for the episode "We Have A Lot To Talk About"

And here's the list!

THE FIRST SUMMER
#1 "Great Shades of Elvis!" (5/22/95)
#2 "Clark...." (5/23/95)
#3 "Like supporting characters..." (5/24/95)
#4 "What goes in a salad...." (5/25/95)
#5 "Lois Lane Luthor, Lois Lane... Kent!" (5/26/95)
#6 "I am top banana!" (5/27/95)
#7 "Oooo, who's the new tight end?" (5/28/95)
#8 "Jimmy, give me back my dress!" (5/29/95)
#9 "From the desk of Cat Chow" (5/30/95)
#10 "I think they eloped." (5/31/95)
#11 "If you were a baseball player..." (6/1/95)
#12 "That's BRILLIANT, Jimmy!" (6/2/95)
#13 "Betcha he's a crossdresser!" (6/3/95)
#14 "I lie to him all the time!" (6/4/95)
#15 "Don't fall for me, farm boy." (6/5/95)
#16 "Can you get me some oolong?" (6/8/95)
#17 "The light makes them look bigger!" (6/11/95)
#18 "C.K., you are the man!" (6/15/95)
#19 "Halfway to Metropolis..." (6/18/95)
#20 "My mind is so conflicted!" (6/22/95)
#21 "But he's MINE!" (6/25/95)
#22 "It's time to bring out the big guns!" (6/28/95)
#23 "My mother made it for me." (7/6/95)
#24 "Get your own damn coffee!" (7/10-11/95)
#25 "Superman is what I do, Clark is who I am." (7/11/95)
#26 "Hold the elevator!" (7/12/95)
#27 "Don't suck up; I don't like it." (7/13/95)
#28 "Tell us more about this 'Lois'...." (7/14/95)
#29 "You haven't said a word since 1866." (7/16/95)
#30 "There's no such word as 'chumpy'." (7/20/95)
#31 "I win, you lose, we're both happy." (7/23/95)
#32 "It wasn't Jimmy, was it?" (7/30/95)
#33 "I said nine, I thought you'd be naked... uh, ready." (8/3/95)
#34 "Clark... whatcha workin' on?" (8/6/95)
#35 "Smooth." (8/10/95)
#36 "I'm in danger of choking on my own vomit." (8/14/95)
#37 "Everything's going fine, assuming Lois lets me have my turn in the bedroom tonight." (8/17/95)
#38 "A little louder, I don't think they heard you in Gotham City." (8/21/95)
#39 "Hello! Duh! Clark Kent is Superman!" (8/24/95)
#40 "It's not Clark's style to go chasin' out after some babe." (8/27/95)
#41 "They don't call 'em tights for nothing!" (8/31/95)
#42 "Liar, you are SO attracted to me!" (9/3/95)
#43 "Is that Kryptonite in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?" (9/8/95)
#44 "The way you just touched me..." (9/10/95)
#45 "If the world opened up from under my feet, I wouldn't stop until I have said this...." (9/14/95)
#46 "Lois, will you marry me?" (9/17/95)

THE THIRD SEASON
#47 "Who's asking, Clark... or Superman?" (9/18/95)
#48 "I'll be there for you... and you're not alone anymore." (9/21/95)
#49 "By the way.... I hate bananas." (9/25/95)
#50 "It's just you and me, Joe and Judy Regular... wanna neck?" (9/28/95)
#51 "I tried something different, so sue me." (10/2/95)
#52 "First... what's your name?" "Kal-El." (10/5/95)
#53 "All I need is a baseball bat and an alibi." (10/10/95)
#54 "The secretary had the most beautiful body..." "What?!?!" "Next to Lois."
(10/12/95)
#55 "I love him so much, and he is so *dumb*!" (10/18/95)
#56 "How come when you repeat what I say, it sounds so dumb?" (10/21/95)
#57 "...and then you took my hand and said, 'Jimmy, I can make a man of you!"
(10/23/95)
#58 "You can fly, I can stay mad. It's a gift." (10/26/95)
#59 "Women. EARTH Women." (10/30/95)
#60 "No, honey. Fly back, it's faster." (11/2/95)
#61 "Lois, I think you've got some 'splaining to do!" (11/7/95)
#62 "I don't know if I suspect them because they're suspects, or because they make
me want to barf." (11/9/95)
#63 "...Yes." (11/13/95)
#64 "Who's asking, Lois... or Ultra Woman?" (11/17/95)
#65 "I'm telling you, he has all the super-powers of... Batman!" (11/20/95)
#66 "I only marry men who fly." (11/25/95)
#67 "Look who's decided to join us this morning... let's give it up for Lois and Clark!" (11/28/95)
#68 "How do you know all this stuff?" (12/7/95)
#69 "You don't know how many times I've thought about this... *dreamt* about this!" (12/8/95)
#70 "So what you're saying is, you're a vir--very patient man." (12/11/95)
#71 "Jimmy, I'm too old to surf, and I'm too smart to think that you can catch love in a net." (12/14/95)
#72 "Of all the sicko, psycho, sexual... nothing personal, Baby." (12/18/95)
#73 "Clark, you're not the boss of us!" (12/28/95)
#74 "Don't you have the files backed up on floppies?" "Clark, this is no time to discuss your compulsive behaviors!" (12/31/95)
#75 "Superman on TV? I don't think so." (1/1/96)
#76 "Superman has morals; because of that, I will win." (1/4/96)
#77 "If you ever need to find me, all you have to do is look up." (1/9/96)
#78 "This isn't my wedding! Are you two going to participate or not?" (1/13/96)
#79 "Did anybody ever tell you you look a lot like Superman... only without the glasses?" (1/16/96) *
#80 "Lunkhead?" (1/20/96)
#81 "If only I lived in a dimension with no Superman... oh wait, duh! I do!" (1/23/96)
#82 "God, Herb... who writes your dialogue? You sound like the Prisoner of Zenda!" (1/24/96)
#83 "Do you know the story of the Phoenix?" (1/26/96)
#84 "Hi Lois, remember me? How 'bout now? Private joke." (1/29/96)
#85 "What we've got here is an example of human evolution. Before and after. Clark is the before--Superman is the after. Make that the way, way after!" (2/2/96) *
#86 "There's no such thing as being too smart." (2/5/96)
#87 "Clark--there is you. There is I. There is no we." "Not yet." "Not ever!" "We'll see." "How long can you hold your breath?" "A very long time..." (2/7/96)
#88 "Doesn't anybody knock around here?" (2/8/96)
#89 "I'm just trying to ask you out. I'm not trying to negotiate a nuclear arms treaty." (2/10/96)
#90 "Being with you is stronger than me alone." (2/11/96)
#91 "By the power vested in me by this state, and the First Church of Blue Suede Deliverance, I pronounce you husband and wife." (2/15/96)
#92 "Stand by to be stunned!" (2/18/96)
#93 "If I give you the gun I can't shoot Lois... duh!" (2/21/96)
#94 "Trouble sticks to me like stink on old fish" (2/25/96)
#95 "One thing about Lois's brain is that it sure is filled with a lot of you!" (2/25/96)
#96 "You have to admit... the whole package, it doesn't suck!" (3/2/96)
#97 "If it ain't one thing with you guys, it's another!" (3/3/96)
#98 "I feel like Dorothy! Shouldn't a tornado be flying me off to Oz pretty soon?" (3/5/96)
#99 "I'm always thinking of you... I mean, you always keep me thinking." (3/13/96)
#100 "You should join the fan club -- you get a button." (3/24/96)
#101 "This guy's bedside manner includes breakfast in the morning!" (3/28/96)
#102 "Brain Sucker!" (4/1/96)
#103 "And how does it make you feel?" (4/1/96)
#104 "Kent is a hack from Smallville... I couldn't make that name up!" (4/6/96)
#105 "It's me right? I do this to them, I make them insane." (4/10/96)
#106 "Did I really do the dance of the Seven Veils?" (4/14/96)
#107 "Alright, maybe, somewhere very deep inside me is some eensy-weensy, microcosmic -- although highly unlikely -- possibility that I feel some sort of unmotivated, completely unrealistic attraction to you." (4/18/96)
#108 "Lois, this just came for you. The, ah, drycleaner said he had a terrible time with the, uh, feathers." (4/20/96)
#109 "Well, Clark... you got a little, um, schmutz here on your 'S'." (4/22/96)
#110 "Superman put it all on the line -- twice! You -- you fell into a bunch of garbage cans in the dark!" (4/28/96)
#111 "He always says that, and I never listen!" (4/30/96)
#112 "You're in my dreams like a touchdown pass, I can't help noticing you've got a great..." (5/4/96)
#113 "I sense... you're attracted to how tight his clothing is across the muscles of his posterior!" (5/7/96)
#114 "I am not an oak! I am free!" (5/9/96)
#115 "So, barring any further bouts of amnesia, or shrinking, or cloning, or Kryptonite, or time travel, or voodoo, I say we get married sooner rather than later." (5/10/96)
#116-Part 1 "I've loved you from the beginning..." (5/14/96)
#116-Part 2 "...And I'll love you 'till the end." (5/15/96)

THE SECOND SUMMER
#117 "A love that risks nothing, means nothing." (5/22-23/96)
#118 "I'll take care of that cat. I'm... a Navy Seal!" (5/26/96)
#119 "Does Superman have any telepathic powers?" "I hope not." (5/30/96)
#120 "Two guesses as to what this is. It rhymes with Kryptonite. Lois, no helping!" (6/5/96)
#121 "Do the words 'let it go' mean anything to you?" (6/10/96)
#122 "Superman is in the shower? Did you see him? I, I mean, does the outfit actually come off?" (6/16/96)
#123 "Lois, you'll be in Clark's room. Clark, you'll be on the couch. Unless you two are..." (6/22/96)
#124 "Oh, well, I tried to warn him about those amber waves of grain." (6/23/96)
#125 "Why tights, why a cape? You're a grown man... don't you feel ridiculous?" (7/1/96)
#126 "There's Elvis... and Jimmy Hoffa... and the plot to 'Showgirls'!" (7/9/96)
#127 "You know, Kent, uh, it's always been my policy to back my reporters 100%. I mean, if you went up there and opened those windows and told me that you could fly, I'd back you up. I'd miss you, but I'd back you up." (7/16/96)
#128 "Here's the scene... your wife has spent the entire day at the beauty parlor. She dyed her hair red, cut it all off, just to please you -- only it looks GHASTLY. She comes home, you open the door, she's standing there all hopeful, 'Honey, do you like it?' What do you do?" (7/23/96)
#129 "Don't tell me... you got him checked suspenders again." (7/31/96)
#130 "You don't like just wearing your boxers?" "Boxers? I wear briefs." "I know." "Lois, did you *x-ray* my...?!?" (8/6/96)
#131 "Unless it's lined with lead, Lois, that's a waste of time." (8/14/96)
#132 "Lois Lane -- finally, literally, swept off her feet. Too bad he's an alien." (8/21/96)
#133 "Well, it's a big bed, how 'bout we share?" (8/28/96)
#134 "So let me get this straight... Sarah -- from research -- is really this 'Krypton-babe' who's got big plans for you?" (9/4/96)
#135 "Minute's up, Clark! Come to Mama!" (9/6/96)
#136 "That's it? Just like that, boom I'm a blond?" (9/12/96)
#137 "Superman is the type of man that makes things happen. I mean, he's good looking and he's good, but, the thing you notice most about him is how much you can count on him." (9/16/96)
#138 "If my son asked me 'Should I go?' I'd say to him, 'Is this your fight'?" (9/18/96)

THE FOURTH SEASON
#139 "What are your feelings about being executed?" (9/25/96)
#140 "I am not a concubine!" (10/2/96)
#141 "Look... everyone needs to know that this isn't some kind of evil genius, cloned, amnesiac fake-out because... there would be a riot." (10/13/96)
#142 "Foreplay is great, but this is ridiculous!" (10/16/96)
#143 "It's *us.*" (10/24/96)
#144 "The Caped Crusader!" "That's Batman." (11/3/96)
#145 "Somehow when I think of newlyweds bonding, wallpaper is not the first thing that comes to mind." (11/6/96)
#146 "Does the phrase 'Mad Dog Lane' sound about right?" (11/17/96)
#147 "I don't go around X-raying everyone's secret compartments!" (11/24/96)
#148 "Clark... was carving a roast." (12/2/96)
#149 "Does anybody still work around here?" (12/8/96)
#150 "Oh, and Ralph... say 'hi' to your mother for me." (1/5/97)
#151 "I hiccuped, and our house turned into the Poseidon Adventure." (1/9/97)
#152 "I consider you to be the Dean of Contemporary American reportage." (1/18/97)
#153 "You missed." "No I didn't!" (1/25/97)
#154 "If I'm still alive on Monday morning, she won't be." (1/27/97)
#155 "You're a fiend beyond comprehension!" "And a good dancer, but enough small talk!" (3/1/97)
#156 "Attention All Registered Voters: John Doe is a Darn Nice Guy." (3/9/97)
#157 "Oh save that drivel for your overrated novels!" (3/16/97)
#158 "I thought you'd be taller." (3/30-4/1/97)
#159 "The truth is somewhere..." "Out there?" "Something like that." (4/1/97)
#160 "You should see her with silverware." (4/14/97)
#161 "The name is Man. *Super*man." (4/18/97)
#162 "It looks like he's found himself a mate." (4/19/97)
#163 "What I'm about to say may shock you..." (4/26/97)
#164 "No, it's an historic day. Tomorrow, for the first time in two hundred nineteen years there will be no edition of the Daily Planet." (5/22/97)
#165 "Jimmy! Don't you ever, *ever* hug me again." (5/23/97)
#166 "If anybody wants me -- I'll be at the Fudge Castle." (5/24/97)
#167 "You could have pretended that we were sharing some fleeting moment of passion but you didn't think of that did you, nooo!" (5/31/97)
#168 "Who are *you* to call me 'honey'?" (6/11/97)
#169 "Cherish this moment because, Clark, you'll never experience this again." (6/14/97)
#170 "You fill me with life." (6/15/97)
#171 "This is why Superman works alone." (8/18/97)

THE POST-CANCELLATION YEARS
#172 "As they say, let the games begin." (8/23/97)
#173 "What's the matter... Cat got your tongue?" (9/2/97)
#174 "I'm the bad guy. We always have a plan." (9/14/97)
#175 "Mom and Dad... and, Mom and Dad... we have something to tell you..." (9/21/97)
#176 "Don't edit my tantrums Clark, I won't be responsible!" (9/29/97)
#177 "Never underestimate the power of a good obituary." (11/26/97)
#178 "She doesn't do too well when she's face to face with herself." (12/3/97)
#179 "I'm confusing the Twelve Days of Christmas with the Seven Deadly Sins again, aren't I?" (12/14/97)
#180 "I've got you babe!" (3/14/98)
#181 "What spray?!? I wasn't sprayed!" (3/28/98)
#182 "Oh look! A healthy baby... basketball!" (4/4/98)
#183 "And by the way, they're real and they're spectacular." (5/11/98)
#184 "Celebrities are doing some strange things lately." (5/17/98)
#185 "Oh, I should have known better than to order Chinese food from a place called Ralph's Pagoda."(9/13/98)
#186 "You should see her with silverware!" (10/4/98)
#187 ""A date? You mean, like a real date? Where I take out my good
perfume, the one that I got after I saw 'Love Afffair'," the good one not
the remake, and I put a dab behind my knee, I don't even know why?" (11/26/98)
#188 "A date? You mean, like a real date? Where I take out my good
perfume, the one that I got after I saw 'Love Afffair'," the good one not
the remake, and I put a dab behind my knee, I don't even know why?" (12/22/98--whoops, same quote!)
#189 "I sleep alone... by choice." (1/31/99)
#190 "You're even a breakfast cereal!" (3/7/99)
#191 "If anything happens, tell Clark that I love him." (3/24/99)
#192 "Jimmy! Shut up, Jimmy!" <POW> (4/1/99)
#193 "I'm not normally a praying man, but if you're up there,
please save me Superman!" (4/25/99)
#194 "Clark Kent had a job; I just want to go on a date!" (5/22/99)
#195 "Maybe you need to put some shorts on or something -- if you want to keep fighting evil today." (8/7/99)
#196 "I can't listen to one more stupid story about your barber or your
doctor or how you suddenly remembered you have to return a book
to the library." (8/22/99)
#197 "Clones eat frogs -- not lizards, frogs! -- any idiot knows that!" (12/1/99)
#198 "Hello. Lucy? It's Lois. I just wanted to let you know that you are not invited to my Christmas dinner tomorrow night.... Well, because all of the food I'm going to buy is mine, and I'm not sharing." (12/19/99)
#199 "Did you know that you have to make the stuffing? It doesn't come in the bird." (12/21/99)
#200 "Oh please! I'll go to jail, I'll strap myself in the electric chair, just DON'T make me listen to this!" (1/24/00)

SPECIALS WITH QUOTES
The Krypton Club Holiday E-Mail: "It's just that it's everywhere! Ribbons and wreathes and mistletoe and trees and Santas and elves and Frosty the Snowman and Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, pounding you in the face over and over, 'You must love Christmas! You must love Christmas! You must love Christmas!'" (12/21/95)
Special #1 "You wanna fly like him, and I wanna fly with him." (7/2/95)
Special #2 Spoiler Special! "You are a strange one, Clark Kent." (7/18/95)
Special #9 "See how well I have him trained!" (11/29/95)
Special #12: "Yo Jimbo, beautiful day... Lois thinks I'm a jerk!" (3/17/96)
Special Notice "It's just me, good old Lois, get to me whenever." (10/20/95)
Spoiler Special #5: "You eat like an eight-year-old, yet you look like Mr.
Hardbody." (8/11/95)
Spoiler Special #6: "That is SO unfair. You know I can't fly." (8/17/95) *
Spoiler Special #7: "When is the last time Lois answered something with a
simple 'yes' or 'no'?" (9/4/95)
Spoiler Special #8: "Are you using your 'alter ego' as an excuse to avoid me?" (9/10/95)
Spoiler Special #9: "I just want you to meet a super guy..." (9/14/95)
Spoiler Special #10: "What do I look like, a beverage?" (9/25/95)
Spoiler Special #11: "Oh, look Hunkie! She's blushing!" (10/1/95)
Spoiler Special #26: "I suppose this means you're going to back out?" (1/2/96)
Spoiler Special #27: "Spill it!" (1/5/96)
Spoiler Special #28: "I'm not a woman!" (1/7/96)
Spoiler Special #29: "Preschool? We don't get married for three more weeks!" (1/14/96)

While preparing this newsletter, I found this in a review of the episode "Ordinary People." Now where did LaudyMunch get her time machine?

"I didn't like 'Ordinary People' very much. They could do a MUCH better job with the villian. And, if Lois and Clark's relationship keeps moving the way it did in this episode, it'll take all the excitment out, fast."

Look for the answer in the next newsletter. The answer to last issue's trivia: The quote for the very first Krypton Club Newsletter was "Great Shades of Elvis!"

We take a look at "Whatever happened to Michael Landes?" (For those of you who are uninformed, Landes played the real -- err, first Jimmy on "Lois & Clark.") And if Jimmy's not your cup of tea, some news on some recent disparaging comments made by Teri Hatcher regarding "Lois & Clark." See you soon!

Editor/Krypton Club President: Craig "Party Like It's 1999" Byrne
Special Thanks To: MarthaRB, BGWillis, Scott Barnhart, Nordburgh, Ceowulf, and LCiam for back issue help (I hope I didn't forget anybody!); and also to Taylor Johns, Lane Davies, David Minerva, and everyone who responded to the "Crossovers" poll.

THE KRYPTON CLUB NEWSLETTER, Volume 1, Issue 200, January, 2000. Published online monthly (or something like that). Copyright (c) 2000 The Lois & Clark Krypton Club. All rights reserved. Any material within is property of the Krypton Club and/or respective individuals unless otherwise noted as coming from elsewhere. Any opinions within belong solely to the individuals who express them. Copying or any unauthorized publication of material from this newsletter without permission is illegal. How could ANYTHING from "The Family Hour" make TV Land's 2000?