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[SnowBird]

Originally Posted by amberdawn

I'm not convinced sex with him would be that different than sex with a mortal. We know he won't hurt her. So I don't really think that's it.

Your right, Clark could probably make love to Lois with his powers and she wouldn't know he was Kal-El, but I hope Lois does know Clark is Kal-El/Blur when he makes love to her when he his powers. Just seems he shouldn't keep secret having powers and making love and what could possibly go wrong so Lois can decide if she wants to take the risk.

[shy175223]

But knowing TPTB, they might want to keep the suspense going for Lois.

[mcwelling197]

Originally Posted by Selina

Im convinced that Clark dies and the bloody hands we see in Lois's flash are hers. She finds a dying Clark. This will be a huge touch to the 'death of superman' comic where a hurt Clark dies in Lois's arms. I'd be very suprised if this doesn't happen.

That's my thinking too

Originally Posted by superspider02

man this episode sounds pretty good. Should be a great way to close out the first half of the season. As for the whole red sun thing, i agree with others maybe with what ever way these "Clones/replicants" are made they would only have powers under a red sun compared to a regular kryptonian needing a yellow sun. Sorta like what they did with blue kryptonite and bizzaro in season 7.

Wasn't Zor-El a clone? He had powers under a yellow sun.

[LionelLuthor]

Sounds like a pretty good episode.
First time in about 3 and a bit years that i've actually enjoyed Smallville.
Keep it up pleeeease.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally Posted by Vergon6

Yeah, if red solar radiation is involved, I find it high unlikely that Zod and his disciples would be granted powers under that. As I mentioned before, no type of kryptonite affects Kryptonians either way under a red sun. So either Zod and his disciples get their powers from the yellow sun and one way or another the sun is turned red, making all the Kandorians powerless (including Clark), or the OD is wrong, and Zod and his disciples keep their powers once they get them under the yellow sun (due to the towers), but use the towers to expose Clark to red sun radiation, causing him and only him to become powerless.

this post doesnt make much sense if your saying that the kandorians get their powers with the yellow sun then use the tower to expose clark to red sun radiation, all kryptonians will be powerless by the red sun not just clark

[umm]

.....I'm very excited to see what role Chloe plays. I love that she's still fighting even when Earth is being ruled by a tyrant....

Me too! That is just another prof of her inner power and strength! Forming a resistence together with Oliver! You go girl! Those two really do make a great power couple!

[superspider02]

yes zorel and lara were clones too if that is what is going to be the case for zod and the others. But we dont know why these clones dont have powers under a yellow sun yet. So its possible their genetic makeup was altered and it will need another power source to access their powers. We will have to see.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally Posted by superspider02

yes zorel and lara were clones too if that is what is going to be the case for zod and the others. But we dont know why these clones dont have powers under a yellow sun yet. So its possible their genetic makeup was altered and it will need another power source to access their powers. We will have to see.

TPTB said the kandorians are the real deal not clones

i suspect the reason why they dont have powers is that the orb strips kryptonians of their powers when near the orb e.g clark when he was stripped of them in "arctic"

so since the orb seems to have be how they got on earth, the orb would strip a kryptonian of their powers (a failsafe by jor-el, maybe the council didnt listen to jor-els concerns as he explained in the promo about both planets survival)

[superspider02]

where have they said they are not clones. There is no why they are real kryptonians.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally Posted by superspider02

where have they said they are not clones. There is no why they are real kryptonians.

TPTB said Zod was the real Zod and as such this would apply to the other people

[superspider02]

yes he is a younger version of zod that we saw back in season 5/6. But they are copies of the originals. Its been pretty clear from all the stuff stated in episodes. In savior we have that one kandorian saying she last remembers giving blood. and we know the real zod and others at some later point was sent into the phantom zone. Then the planet blew up. The only real living kryptonians are clark and kara, and if the real present day city of kandor does exist out there in deep space.

[SV'S_immortal_hero]

Originally Posted by superspider02

yes he is a younger version of zod that we saw back in season 5/6. But they are copies of the originals. Its been pretty clear from all the stuff stated in episodes. In savior we have that one kandorian saying she last remembers giving blood. and we know the real zod and others at some later point was sent into the phantom zone. Then the planet blew up. The only real living kryptonians are clark and kara, and if the real present day city of kandor does exist out there in deep space.

im only going by the interviews i remember reading, TPTB said that whilest Zod will be younger he will be the real Zod

[Exedore]

Originally Posted by superspider02

yes zorel and lara were clones too if that is what is going to be the case for zod and the others. But we dont know why these clones dont have powers under a yellow sun yet. So its possible their genetic makeup was altered and it will need another power source to access their powers. We will have to see.

Well in SV-verse it has been firmly established that Krytonian technology - or at least Jor El's technology - is capable of giving and taking away their powers. Not only that but they can give powers to humans too (Super Pa). So it may not be some elaborate genetic engineering but a simple case of Jor El programming the Orb to strip these clones/time travelers of their powers just like Clark's powers were taken more than once on the show. In the preview we see the Council telling Jor El something along the lines of "we can't risk another planet's future to save our past" or something like that. Assuming this Orb was created as an Ark or a time portal to save Kryptonians from doom, it is possible that Jor El and/or the Council decided that it would be too risky to allow so many Kryptonians to be full powered on Earth. They might go nuts and destroy Earth or even each other with all these powers at their disposal. Hence maybe it was decided to make them powerless on Earth.

Now what Zod is doing with red sun radiation I am not sure. Maybe he decided, hey if we can't have powers then neither should Kal El.

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Originally Posted by SV'S_immortal_hero

im only going by the interviews i remember reading, TPTB said that whilest Zod will be younger he will be the real Zod

Like xray pointed out elsewhere, we know that in SV-verse, Kryptonians used blood to activate/trigger portals or beacons (PZ escape portal and the beacon that first summoned Brainiac to Earth). Maybe they are time travelers whose blood was used to activate these portals, one portal for each family. Or maybe they are clones.

Or Zod is an actual time traveler while the other Kandorians are clones.

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Originally Posted by SV'S_immortal_hero

this post doesnt make much sense if your saying that the kandorians get their powers with the yellow sun then use the tower to expose clark to red sun radiation, all kryptonians will be powerless by the red sun not just clark

What if they decided to use power-suits like the one Superboy-Prime used in the comics? Using the tower they harnessed yellow sun radiation and then used the power suits to give them powers while they exposed Clark to red sun radiation to render him powerless.

[herolee10]

not that Lana's a real fan favorite for most here, but i do hope that they at least give us a explanation on why she wasn't able to help take down Zod and his army given her condition and abilities.

[Lori]

Originally Posted by umm

me too! That is just another prof of her inner power and strength! Forming a resistence together with oliver! You go girl! Those two really do make a great power couple!

qft! :d

[superspider02]

if she gets mentioned in the episode she could have been killed or something.

[Lori]

Originally Posted by superspider02

if she gets mentioned in the episode she could have been killed or something.

WOW that's a great character development prospect I hardly think they would say she's forming a resistance movement with Oliver then not even have her mentioned in the episode.

[herolee10]

Originally Posted by superspider02

if she gets mentioned in the episode she could have been killed or something.

indeed..i guess the bigger question would be..how?

I mean she's invulnerable as clark is, and no kryptonian..well regular one can get near her without being eventually killed from her kryptonite radiation.

this is why they should have either not given her invulnerability as one of her powers, or not given her kryptonite radiation, because that has thus far unofficially made her the most powerful being on the planet for the time being.

[superspider02]

well i dont really care much for the character but there is plently of things they could say she is doing in that other future if the character got a mention. one plus side would be if chloe/clark said they have had contact with her and she been draining all kryptonite she can find. so then down the road their is less of the stuff to hurt clark with.

[herolee10]

Originally Posted by superspider02

well i dont really care much for the character but there is plently of things they could say she is doing in that other future if the character got a mention.

i would somewhat hope so. i mean i'm not a huge lana fan myself, but given her abilities, it's sort of a huge WTH remark as to why she wouldn't have had some kind of impact in dealing with the kandorian situation as well.

I mean i could chalk up the thought that the entire JLA, minus Chloe and Oliver, were hunted down and killed, perhaps some in hiding, and the JSA are either still hiding or were hunted down and killed as well by the army of super powered kandorians.