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kavalier
09-18-2008, 08:33 PM
Let me get this straight, there is a whole season of plot development that builds up to Lex finding a device, that has been secretly kept under wraps for years, that has the ability to take away Clark's powers, and....

He can get his powers back by being exposed to the sun.

Lot of good that device was.

This is probably my number one criticism of Smallville, they wrap up the whole previous season's buildup with one very quick, very easy resolution.

Kind of frustrating. But the episode was still a lot of fun to watch.

biggkoz
09-18-2008, 08:36 PM
Maybe some of the suns molten whatever healed him and it wasnt just the sunlight that did it.

phantomzoney
09-18-2008, 08:44 PM
Well, powerless and injured, as he was, by himself he couldn't just fly up to the sun to get healed. And I doubt sunlight from Earth would be fully adequate to heal him right up. So.. ff he were to be alone and powerless and therefore, unable to fly to the sun, it wouldn't give him his powers back. Theoretically.. of course. Thus, I think it was actually a very good touch.

The only thing that I didn't absolutely love was the Martian Manhunter being stripped of his powers. It's a bit saddening. Won't be seeing much of him anymore.

elway
09-18-2008, 08:56 PM
While watching it, it was cool, but thinking back to ALL that lead up to that moment (Veritas and all) BAD outcome for that storyline.... And Lionel died over this.... :mad:

geminis
09-18-2008, 08:59 PM
Well, powerless and injured, as he was, by himself he couldn't just fly up to the sun to get healed. And I doubt sunlight from Earth would be fully adequate to heal him right up. So.. ff he were to be alone and powerless and therefore, unable to fly to the sun, it wouldn't give him his powers back. Theoretically.. of course. Thus, I think it was actually a very good touch.

The only thing that I didn't absolutely love was the Martian Manhunter being stripped of his powers. It's a bit saddening. Won't be seeing much of him anymore.

I agree with everything except for not seeing much of Martian Manhunter. He will be back. And I'm going to be very glad to see him.

6-Super-Man -5
09-18-2008, 09:01 PM
Yeah, I'm surprised he didn't get burned up, since he was still human.

curiosity
09-18-2008, 09:02 PM
Let me get this straight, there is a whole season of plot development that builds up to Lex finding a device, that has been secretly kept under wraps for years, that has the ability to take away Clark's powers, and....

He can get his powers back by being exposed to the sun.

Lot of good that device was.

This is probably my number one criticism of Smallville, they wrap up the whole previous season's buildup with one very quick, very easy resolution.

Kind of frustrating. But the episode was still a lot of fun to watch.

I think he had to get him really close to the sun.

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Yeah, I'm surprised he didn't get burned up, since he was still human.

He can never be human, even with his powers gone, so I'm not sure why they say that. I think they just mean he's "like" a human.

adromidon
09-18-2008, 09:03 PM
He will get his powers back they are going by the comics where he also looses his powers while helping clark

AndiGirl
09-18-2008, 09:04 PM
They really did a bad job of explaining that moment. :(
I figured MM did something.....and the sun just made him stronger? I dont know....

I agree Calvin...if he was human, flying into the sun....not such a good idea. :lol:

adromidon
09-18-2008, 09:06 PM
I think he had to get him really close to the sun.

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He can never be human, even with his powers gone, so I'm not sure why they say that. I thing they just mean he's "like" a human.
Yes I am thinking when Jor-El actually took his powers he merely drained his solor tank so to speak. So when gets them back he has to be exposed to super large amounts of solar radiation. When he took clark up to the sun he must have had just enough power to return to earth and then become powerless.

HowardFilms
09-18-2008, 09:07 PM
Lionel had to die while they still had Lex, or Lex's character never would have hit climax.

Oh, and the solar dipping thingy actually has ties to the comic, I think, when Clark tries to supercharge himself.

It wasn't a perfect explanation, but then again I thought him losing his powers in the first place was dumb, so whatever works to get him back to normal.

6-Super-Man -5
09-18-2008, 09:07 PM
They really did a bad job of explaining that moment. :(
I figured MM did something.....and the sun just made him stronger? I dont know....

I agree Calvin...if he was human, flying into the sun....not such a good idea. :lol:

:rotfl:

adromidon
09-18-2008, 09:08 PM
They really did a bad job of explaining that moment. :(
I figured MM did something.....and the sun just made him stronger? I dont know....

I agree Calvin...if he was human, flying into the sun....not such a good idea. :lol:
I am guessing he did not loose his powers all at once it was probably more likely MMH slowly lost his powers on his approach to earth until he eventually had none left

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Lionel had to die while they still had Lex, or Lex's character never would have hit climax.

Oh, and the solar dipping thingy actually has ties to the comic, I think, when Clark tries to supercharge himself.

It wasn't a perfect explanation, but then again I thought him losing his powers in the first place was dumb, so whatever works to get him back to normal.
He lost his powers to prevent Lex from controlling him is how i percieve it

CountryGirl84
09-18-2008, 09:09 PM
I was wondering about this as well when they flew into the sky cuz I was like ummmm doesn't he have no powers.... won't space sort of kill him... you know like it would kill someone.... human....

But I did like that Martian Manhunter lost his powers simply because they can't use him dues ex machina to wrap up some hugely twisted plot hole that they couldn't dig themselves out of no matter how much pixie dust and marshmellows they consumed while trying to hack out the the mess of paper and ink also known as a Smallville episode's script...

Not that I'm not sad MM had to lose his powers along with Lionel's death and all the other crud we put up with along the way... Its a pretty much a greek frickin tragedy people...

curiosity
09-18-2008, 09:10 PM
I am guessing he did not loose his powers all at once it was probably more likely MMH slowly lost his powers on his approach to earth until he eventually had none left

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He lost his powers to prevent Lex from controlling him is how i percieve it

Or....not enough left, so he considers himself without powers, when really he's much more powerful than any human. It would have to be that way, or he would've burned up on re-entry.

kavalier
09-18-2008, 09:12 PM
While watching it, it was cool, but thinking back to ALL that lead up to that moment (Veritas and all) BAD outcome for that storyline.... And Lionel died over this.... :mad:

Im hoping that somehow the whole Doomsday plot will tie back to Season 7 and the whole "something so terrible" that Lionel was talking about.

Cause if Lionel was just talking about the device then the "something so terrible" didnt turn out to be such a big deal.

adromidon
09-18-2008, 09:12 PM
Yeah that makes since maybe some of his invulneralbility remained

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Im hoping that somehow the whole Doomsday plot will tie back to Season 7 and the whole "something so terrible" that Lionel was talking about.

Cause if Lionel was just talking about the device then the "something so terrible" didnt turn out to be such a big deal.
You have to understand at the time Lionel made that device telling clark of something terrible he had Jor-El's knowledge so to him loosing your kryptonian powers would be terrible

xrayvision
09-18-2008, 09:15 PM
My only question is why didn't MM show up in season 5 (Hidden) if his reason was not letting Clark die?

This does prove what I said back in S5 that over time, Clark would have gotten his powers back eventually (the sun would have restored his powers on Earth but at a much slower rate than it did when MM took him to space).

But it does make it look like Jonathan's & Lionel's deaths were for nothing.

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Im hoping that somehow the whole Doomsday plot will tie back to Season 7 and the whole "something so terrible" that Lionel was talking about.

Cause if Lionel was just talking about the device then the "something so terrible" didnt turn out to be such a big deal.

I think Lionel was foretelling Doomsday's arrival.

rconner
09-18-2008, 09:26 PM
It's just one of those things you just need to overlook, but did anyone else notice how the holes and blood of clark's shirt was healed over when MM got him back to the barn.

adromidon
09-18-2008, 09:28 PM
My only question is why didn't MM show up in season 5 (Hidden) if his reason was not letting Clark die?

This does prove what I said back in S5 that over time, Clark would have gotten his powers back eventually (the sun would have restored his powers on Earth but at a much slower rate than it did when MM took him to space).

But it does make it look like Jonathan's & Lionel's deaths were for nothing.

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He said he was not supposed to show up this time but he could not stay out of it

Smallville6
09-18-2008, 09:28 PM
rconner, He was wearing a different shirt

myankskent
09-18-2008, 09:30 PM
My only question is why didn't MM show up in season 5 (Hidden) if his reason was not letting Clark die?



I think the reason why was because Jor-El was able to use Lionel as a vessel at the time. If there was nothing that Jor-El was able to do, I would have to assume that MM would've stepped in and saved Clark in Hidden.

chloesmygirl
09-18-2008, 10:06 PM
My only question is why didn't MM show up in season 5 (Hidden) if his reason was not letting Clark die?

This does prove what I said back in S5 that over time, Clark would have gotten his powers back eventually (the sun would have restored his powers on Earth but at a much slower rate than it did when MM took him to space).

But it does make it look like Jonathan's & Lionel's deaths were for nothing.

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I think Lionel was foretelling Doomsday's arrival.

I just had a thought and if it's already been discussed I apologize. My thought is this: You know in the comics that Doomsday was a Kryptonion experiment and I'm wondering now if they changed for the tv show and Doomsday is a 33.1 experiment? Maybe that's the reason Lionel told Clark something terrible was coming he knew about the experiment.

xrayvision
09-18-2008, 10:15 PM
I just had a thought and if it's already been discussed I apologize. My thought is this: You know in the comics that Doomsday was a Kryptonion experiment and I'm wondering now if they changed for the tv show and Doomsday is a 33.1 experiment? Maybe that's the reason Lionel told Clark something terrible was coming he knew about the experiment.

I dunno. I think it's a mistake to bring Doomsday in this early and make him into a human because there is nothing human about Doomsday. He's a creature that completely lacks humanity. I would rather see Morgan Edge & Intergang replace Doomsday & Tess.

chloesmygirl
09-18-2008, 10:22 PM
I dunno. I think it's a mistake to bring Doomsday in this early and make him into a human because there is nothing human about Doomsday. He's a creature that completely lacks humanity. I would rather see Morgan Edge & Intergang replace Doomsday & Tess.

Oh I totally agree it's a mistake to bring Doomsday in this early I mean Clark isn't even Superman yet. I'm thinking they should let Clark fly before they even think about Doomsday.

xrayvision
09-18-2008, 10:32 PM
Oh I totally agree it's a mistake to bring Doomsday in this early I mean Clark isn't even Superman yet. I'm thinking they should let Clark fly before they even think about Doomsday.

Fly & train.

I mentioned quite a few times in the past that his training should have consisted of:

1. Learning about Krypton, Kryptonian enemies & Kryptonian knowledge/technology from periodic sessions with Jor-El.

2. Having the Eradicator possess someone who would fulfill its Kryptonian objectives & having Clark clean up the chaos & messes it would cause and like in the comics go through a test and learn how to control it by meeting Kem-El (his ancestor) in the past/present and learning how to gain control of it while also telling Kem-El about himself, allowing the Naman prophecy to be brought full circle so that Kem-El (who could be explained as that 1st Kryptonian to travel to Earth 500 years ago as Joseph Willowbrook said) in his own time period can go to Earth and write the cave legend based on what he learned about Clark.

3. Have Clark split himself from Kal-El as 2 seperate beings (like the 2 Lex's in Onyx) and battle the more powerful Kal-El in a series of battles taking place over an entire season and ultimately beating him.

I think by showing Clark go through these 3 trials, they would have made it very plausible how he would in the future face & stop Doomsday, Darkseid, Metallo, etc.

Plus, I would like to see Clark also having other powers like laservision before fighting Doomsday.

susangail
09-18-2008, 10:45 PM
Just overlook it. Just like we overlook his conversion to human, which is impossible anywhere but in the comics.

xrayvision
09-18-2008, 10:50 PM
^^I Know. What I suggested above would have been perfect for season 7 rather than the Veritas storyline. I even wrote 3 full episodes (as in a TV show script form) of my own season 7 months before season 7 ever aired.

wraith808
09-18-2008, 11:22 PM
Let me get this straight, there is a whole season of plot development that builds up to Lex finding a device, that has been secretly kept under wraps for years, that has the ability to take away Clark's powers, and....

He can get his powers back by being exposed to the sun.

Lot of good that device was.

This is probably my number one criticism of Smallville, they wrap up the whole previous season's buildup with one very quick, very easy resolution.

Kind of frustrating. But the episode was still a lot of fun to watch.

There's actually precedence for that working... and it wasn't just exposure to the sun, it was exposure to the SUN. As in, no filters, just pure sunlight... not very likely that it would have happened without MM stepping up to the plate.