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superhippie2000
09-17-2008, 05:37 PM
I wonder what they will be like this season. there will be a lot of changes. i wonder if it will atleast look the same way.

KryptonSite
09-17-2008, 05:38 PM
I'm probably as excited to see the new opening credits as I am to see the episode itself.

If anyone reading this has a video card and can put the new credits online, I'd love you.

Smallville6
09-17-2008, 05:39 PM
Me too! I've always loved Smallville's opening credits. No matter what, they're always great! I'm so excited to see this season's!

Vergon6
09-17-2008, 05:48 PM
Yeah I am interested to see what they do with the opening credits too. One complaint I had about last year's credits was the ending was sort of choppy and haphazard going Clark/Kara/Clark. The pacing seemed off.

superhippie2000
09-17-2008, 06:23 PM
im just hoping chloe gets her place in the number 2 spot. but if i had to guess it would probably be lois :\.

krewsaider
09-17-2008, 06:29 PM
I think Chloe has the number 2 spot. On my DISH description, it has her name placed after Tom Welling's.

Vergon6
09-17-2008, 06:32 PM
I am guessing Allison Mack gets 2nd billing as well, considering she is the only other actor/actress that is an all 22 episodes.

superhippie2000
09-17-2008, 06:44 PM
ya and also the only person to be in the show since season 1 other then clark.

Chlollie
09-17-2008, 07:16 PM
I think Chloe has the number 2 spot. On my DISH description, it has her name placed after Tom Welling's.

DirecTV has the same thing.

redkryptoniteisthebest
09-17-2008, 07:21 PM
Hey, is there gonna be a Canadian board tonight? I want to stay away from it.

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DirecTV has the same thing.

Same here, as well.

superhippie2000
09-17-2008, 07:24 PM
nope canadians get to watch thursdays now.

KryptonSite
09-17-2008, 07:38 PM
I am thinking the S8 credits will PROBABLY go like this:

Tom Welling
Allison Mack
Erica Durance
Aaron Ashmore
Cassidy Freeman
Sam Witwer
and Justin Hartley as Oliver Queen

shy175223
09-17-2008, 07:42 PM
you know what I think you're right.

krpto
09-17-2008, 07:45 PM
Craig have you heard if we are getting all new credits for this season or if they are just adding the cast members into the existing credits?

WickedJenn
09-17-2008, 07:47 PM
So, I'm guessing we'll still have some Remy Z. singing "Somebody saaaaaaaaaave meeeeeeeeeee..."

shy175223
09-17-2008, 07:51 PM
wouldn't be SV without the original version unless they decided to revamp after 7 years.

superhippie2000
09-17-2008, 07:52 PM
I am thinking the S8 credits will PROBABLY go like this:

Tom Welling
Allison Mack
Erica Durance
Aaron Ashmore
Cassidy Freeman
Sam Witwer
and Justin Hartley as Oliver Queen
i agree but i think justin might be before sam.

Twitch
09-17-2008, 07:52 PM
So, I'm guessing we'll still have some Remy Z. singing "Somebody saaaaaaaaaave meeeeeeeeeee..."

Oh god I hope so! I'm going to blast my TV when the credits roll and sing along. :lol:

shy175223
09-17-2008, 07:58 PM
i agree but i think justin might be before sam.

well, not unless they do have the 'and' in front of it than it doesn't matter.

WickedJenn
09-17-2008, 07:58 PM
Oh god I hope so! I'm going to blast my TV when the credits roll and sing along. :lol:

I definitely belt it out though :D

A_Chloe.S._Fan
09-17-2008, 08:19 PM
I think Chloe will be second, but it could be Lois...We won't find out til' tomorrow. Damn, it feels good to finally say that! :D :lol:

Karafan1
09-17-2008, 08:27 PM
I really look forward to seeing what the opening credits look like every season. Since I didn't start watching until season 4 I had to play catch up by watching it on abc family and I was disappointed to see the season 2 and 3 credits were the same. We know for a fact they will really be different this season with Lex, Lana, Kara and Lionel gone..

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Oh god I hope so! I'm going to blast my TV when the credits roll and sing along. :lol:


I do the same thing! I turn my tv up but I lipsynch the song..I don't actually sing it..lol..

morrigan01
09-17-2008, 08:34 PM
Actually, I think Erica will be after Tom and Allison will get the final credit. Kind of like how Allison Hannigan got the final credit position after Anthony Stewart Head stopped being a regular cast member in season six of Buffy, and the final credit for the opening was "and Allison Hannigan as Willow".

Also, I don't think Sam Witwer is going to get an opening credit position at all; I'm also doubtful of Cassidy Freeman, but she might seeing that she's more or less taking Lex and Lionel's place as the show's resident "magnificent bastard". ;)

So I think the credits will go like this:

Tom Welling
Erica Durance
Aaron Ashmore
Cassidy Freeman
Justin Hartley
and Allison Mack as Chloe Sullivan

Believe it or not, having the final slot in the opening credits is almost equivalent of having the first slot. It's why Allison Hannigan was given the final slot in season six of Buffy and not James Marsters - because she'd been on the show longer than he had. And since Tom and Allison have been on the show the longest, they will have the highest credits one way or another.

shy175223
09-17-2008, 08:36 PM
Well, I can't BLAST my tv up cause I still happen to live with mother along with my younger brother, but I do lipsync to song.:D

WickedJenn
09-17-2008, 08:37 PM
I think Chloe will be second, but it could be Lois...We won't find out til' tomorrow. Damn, it feels good to finally say that! :D :lol:

I know!! Weeeeeeee.

shy175223
09-17-2008, 08:40 PM
Actually, I think Erica will be after Tom and Allison will get the final credit. Kind of like how Allison Hannigan got the final credit position after Anthony Stewart Head stopped being a regular cast member in season six of Buffy, and the final credit for the opening was "and Allison Hannigan as Willow".

Also, I don't think Sam Witwer is going to get opening credit positions at all; I'm also doubtful of Cassidy Freeman, but she might seeing that she's more or less taking Lex and Lionel's place as the show's resident "magnificent bastard". ;)

So I think the credits will go like this:

Tom Welling
Erica Durance
Aaron Ashmore
Cassidy Freeman
Justin Hartley
and Allison Mack as Chloe Sullivan

Believe it or not, having the final slot in the opening credits is almost equivalent of having the first slot. And since Tom and Allison have been on the show the longest, they will have the highest credits one way or another.

I agree with Craig, Allison will come before Erica like before. She is in all the 22 episodes.

Vergon6
09-17-2008, 08:43 PM
So, I'm guessing we'll still have some Remy Z. singing "Somebody saaaaaaaaaave meeeeeeeeeee..."
Yes, I would imagine so. But of course the song is just called "Save Me" ;). Although I wouldn't be surprised if someone labeled it like that, just like they have labeled other songs so very incorrectly. For example, labeling a song, "Rat in a Cage" when obviously that was just a lyric in the song.

WickedJenn
09-17-2008, 08:46 PM
Yes, I would imagine so. But of course the song is just called "Save Me" ;). Although I wouldn't be surprised if someone labeled it like that, just like they have labeled other songs so very incorrectly. For example, labeling a song, "Rat in a Cage" when obviously that was just a lyric in the song.

Yes, I know that "Save Me" is the title, but I indulged and typed the whole verse :p

morrigan01
09-17-2008, 08:50 PM
I agree with Craig, Allison will come before Erica like before. She is in all the 22 episodes.

Opening credit position isn't given by how many episodes someone's in - they're given based on how long a persons been on a show (especially if it's a hit), status, etc.

Trust me, if Michael Rosenbaum had negotiated for season 8, but was only going to do seven episodes for it total, he would still have an opening credit above Allison's no matter if she was doing 22 or not. (Though if that had happened, I think he might have gotten the "and" credit at the end, which like I said, is a high position credit).

But who knows? Maybe they'll give Erica the final credit. (I seriously doubt Justin will get it). I'm actually looking most forward to seeing who does get that "and" credit now.

shy175223
09-17-2008, 08:57 PM
Than Allison would definitely come before Erica and after TW because she and Tom are the only series regulars on the show.

Legendary Lois & Clark
09-17-2008, 08:59 PM
Opening credit position isn't given by how many episodes someone's in - they're given based on how long a persons been on a show (especially if it's a hit), status, etc.
Not true for Smallville. Erica was ahead of Allison in seasons four and five. There goes that "rule".;)



I'm certainly hoping it's Erica/Lois that comes after Tom/Clark. Seniority didn't matter much in past seasons and it's just going to look very very odd to see a supporting actress/character who's always been fourth or fifth in the credits to all of a sudden be second when the character she protrays has absolutely nothing to do with the Superman mythos, especially since the Chloe character is supposed to be dialed back a bit and will be "cutting the apron strings". The actors that protray the major cannon characters are the ones that should be in the first few credit spots. That's what they did in the past with Clark, Lana, and Lex. I think it should go Tom, Erica, Witwer, Allison, Hartly, Cassidy, Ashmore. I will be a bit dissapointed if it isn't because it kind of breaks up the running pattern they used in the past. I won't be surprised though. Chloe has always been practically attached right to Clarks butt on the show, why not have it the same way in the opening credits as well?:\

Vergon6
09-17-2008, 09:05 PM
Yes, I know that "Save Me" is the title, but I indulged and typed the whole verse :p
Okay then :p. I was joking around, I am glad you didn't take it as condescending. But what I wasn't kidding about is that there are probably people who would label it as that.

Chlollie
09-17-2008, 09:05 PM
I highly believe AM will be second and ED third.

Legendary Lois & Clark
09-17-2008, 09:07 PM
I highly believe AM will be second and ED third.
With a username Chlollie, that's no surprise.

morrigan01
09-17-2008, 09:10 PM
Not true for Smallville. Erica was ahead of Allison in seasons four and five. There goes that "rule".;)


Actually, Erica's credit was stuck in the middle of the season five credits (which were overloaded with people - that season included not only an "and" credit, but I believe a "with" credit as well), while Allison's was closer to the end. Being stuck in the middle in a long opening credit sequence is worse than being closer to the end (an old TV saying being that no one remembers who in the middle of opening credits, just who's first and last). ;)

And Erica wasn't in the season four opening credits at all. She just has a "guest" credit that year.

6-Super-Man -5
09-17-2008, 09:12 PM
I'm very interested in a new opening credits, and I think they changed it.

Legendary Lois & Clark
09-17-2008, 09:13 PM
And Erica was in the season four opening credits at all. She just has a "guest" credit that year.

That's right. I meant seasons five and six. My bad.;)

KryptonSite
09-17-2008, 09:14 PM
The reason Allison was credited after Erica in S5 and S6, I think, was because of the order they did things. It went like this:

The Big Three (Tom, Kristin, Michael)
Younger Supporting Cast (in Alphabetical Order -that's why Erica Durance, Jensen Ackles, Sam Jones III, and Eric Johnson were all credited before AM in previous seasons)
The Older Cast (John Glover, Annette O'Toole, John Schneider)

For S7 they had all of the "full-timers" at the beginning, then Erica (I assume because she's major and had seniority), then Aaron Ashmore and Laura Vandervoort alphabetically, again as the "younger supporting cast," and then John Glover.

WickedJenn
09-17-2008, 09:16 PM
Okay then :p. I was joking around, I am glad you didn't take it as condescending. But what I wasn't kidding about is that there are probably people who would label it as that.

Nah, not me ;)

I'm sure there are, I've seen some song titles completely mangled.

MBrittan
09-17-2008, 09:17 PM
The reason Allison was credited after Erica in S5 and S6, I think, was because of the order they did things. It went like this:

The Big Three (Tom, Kristin, Michael)
Younger Supporting Cast (in Alphabetical Order -that's why Erica Durance, Jensen Ackles, Sam Jones III, and Eric Johnson were all credited before AM in previous seasons)
The Older Cast (John Glover, Annette O'Toole, John Schneider)

For S7 they had all of the "full-timers" at the beginning, then Erica (I assume because she's major and had seniority), then Aaron Ashmore and Laura Vandervoort alphabetically, again as the "younger supporting cast," and then John Glover.

Um ok, now I have a headache, lol
-M-

Chlollie
09-17-2008, 09:18 PM
With a username Chlollie, that's no surprise.

Username is because I like the pairing. I like both Lois and Chloe the same. It just that they moved up AM before ED last season and I don't see them changing it again. There are other things to, but don't want to go into it. Opening Credits shouldn't be a really big deal. The episodes should be.

shy175223
09-17-2008, 09:18 PM
I highly believe AM will be second and ED third.I concur, IMO, I do not believe AM is just going get push back down into 3rd after 7 seasons.

Routh
09-17-2008, 09:19 PM
I'm probably as excited to see the new opening credits as I am to see the episode itself.
Oh, man. You don't even know. I'm kind of blah about the premiere itself now, unfortunately, due to all of the massive amounts of information/scenes that have been released. I feel like I've watched the episode already.

But yes, I am really, really, really excited to see the credits. I mostly want to see JH/CF/SW's new glamour shots, and the new clips chosen for everyone else.
If anyone reading this has a video card and can put the new credits online, I'd love you.
I'll see what I can do. No promises. :P

shy175223
09-17-2008, 09:20 PM
The reason Allison was credited after Erica in S5 and S6, I think, was because of the order they did things. It went like this:

The Big Three (Tom, Kristin, Michael)
Younger Supporting Cast (in Alphabetical Order -that's why Erica Durance, Jensen Ackles, Sam Jones III, and Eric Johnson were all credited before AM in previous seasons)
The Older Cast (John Glover, Annette O'Toole, John Schneider)

For S7 they had all of the "full-timers" at the beginning, then Erica (I assume because she's major and had seniority), then Aaron Ashmore and Laura Vandervoort alphabetically, again as the "younger supporting cast," and then John Glover.thanks, Craig.:)

morrigan01
09-17-2008, 09:24 PM
The reason Allison was credited after Erica in S5 and S6, I think, was because of the order they did things. It went like this:

The Big Three (Tom, Kristin, Michael)
Younger Supporting Cast (in Alphabetical Order -that's why Erica Durance, Jensen Ackles, Sam Jones III, and Eric Johnson were all credited before AM in previous seasons)
The Older Cast (John Glover, Annette O'Toole, John Schneider)

For S7 they had all of the "full-timers" at the beginning, then Erica (I assume because she's major and had seniority), then Aaron Ashmore and Laura Vandervoort alphabetically, again as the "younger supporting cast," and then John Glover.

Okay, that actually makes sense. (I never did get why Laura Vandervoort got the position right before John Glover).

So the question is - with two of the big three gone and no "Older Cast" members left, what new order are they going to go by? Who gets the final "and" credit and why?

Routh
09-17-2008, 09:24 PM
I'm guessing JH's will look something like this:

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7895/justinhartleyopeningcreah9.jpg

Which I made a few months back. I couldn't find decent pictures of CF and SW to use, unfortunately.

Randy G.
09-17-2008, 09:24 PM
I wonder how many of us will be singing it outloud tomorrow night? :lol:
I always do it for the season premiere. I guess it's healthy. :\

As for the credits, I would imagine they're using the same graphics, with the other actors inserted. I think they did spend quite a bit on the new intro a few years back.

However, I'd be open for some fresh graphics, with a little more of the instrumental stuff from the song. Might remix it just a bit, to pump things up. :D

Routh
09-17-2008, 09:26 PM
So the question is - with two of the big three gone and no "Older Cast" members left, what new order are they going to go by?
I like to think we have a new big three; TW, AM, ED. They're the veterans. I honestly don't care if ED or AM goes first, as long as the three of them are up there. Followed by AA, CF, SW, and JH as OQ, in that order.

redkryptoniteisthebest
09-17-2008, 09:26 PM
I'm guessing JH's will look something like this:

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7895/justinhartleyopeningcreah9.jpg

Which I made a few months back. I couldn't find decent pictures of CF and SW to use, unfortunately.

Wow, thats amazing!

400th post!!!

WickedJenn
09-17-2008, 09:30 PM
This is slowly becoming one giant Algebra problem :lol:

morrigan01
09-17-2008, 09:31 PM
I'm guessing JH's will look something like this:

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7895/justinhartleyopeningcreah9.jpg

Which I made a few months back. I couldn't find decent pictures of CF and SW to use, unfortunately.

That's really good! I really thought it was the real one for a moment. Good job.

Legendary Lois & Clark
09-17-2008, 09:38 PM
The order does matter a bit to me, but only because you have to look at it all season long. I DVR mine so I usually zip by mine some of the time. If it's a crappy opening credits then I'll just have to zip past it every time is all. Something tells me with this being the Green Arrow/Smallville hour a lot of scene skip buttons will be working overtime. The season hasn't started yet and I miss Rosenbaum already. It'll never be the same. What a huge hole he left in the show with his exit.:(

6-Super-Man -5
09-17-2008, 09:42 PM
I'm still going with that they are creating a new opening, but keeping "Somebody Save Me" songs a classic!

morrigan01
09-17-2008, 09:45 PM
I'm still going with that they are creating a new opening, but keeping "Somebody Save Me" songs a classic!

They have to keep the song. And the opening shot of the second meteor shower - I really love how the camera shakes from the shots of it just as the song lyrics first kick in. :)

6-Super-Man -5
09-17-2008, 09:54 PM
They have to keep the song. And the opening shot of the second meteor shower - I really love how the camera shakes from the shots of it just as the song lyrics first kick in. :)

Wait, just to make it clear, was it announced that a new opening title will be created? Not just with the same like pictures and movement, like a total remake of the opening title?

Vergon6
09-17-2008, 10:01 PM
People are just speculating. I figure it will be the same type of credits as Season 5-7. It only makes sense. Good symmetry as well, given that the first four seasons had the farm landscape as a backdrop.

6-Super-Man -5
09-17-2008, 10:04 PM
I have this weird feeling that Season 1-4 had kinda the same intro, and I think Season 5-8 will have the same intro, and then for Season Nine (if there is one) it will be recreated fully.

superspider02
09-17-2008, 10:34 PM
I am thinking the S8 credits will PROBABLY go like this:

Tom Welling
Allison Mack
Erica Durance
Aaron Ashmore
Cassidy Freeman
Sam Witwer
and Justin Hartley as Oliver Queen
I have been feeling that order too for awhile now too Craig. One thing i hope is all the returning cast members get all new name screens i was pissed with season 7 that tom had the same screens since season 5 but everyone else got new screens. So crossing fingers to get new screens for all returning members.

Routh
09-17-2008, 10:38 PM
I have been feeling that order too for awhile now too Craig. One thing i hope is all the returning cast members get all new name screens i was pissed with season 7 that tom had the same screens since season 5 but everyone else got new screens. So crossing fingers to get new screens for all returning members.
I'm not quite sure what you're saying, but if your referring to the glamour shots, everyone's were the same (excluding AA and LV, since they were new).

superspider02
09-17-2008, 10:40 PM
i thought it was different for am/ed.

Cellist
09-17-2008, 10:57 PM
I have this weird feeling that Season 1-4 had kinda the same intro, and I think Season 5-8 will have the same intro, and then for Season Nine (if there is one) it will be recreated fully.

I dunno, I doubt they would totally revamp it just for one season. I guess that's why if they're going to change it, they would change it this season, but I don't think they will.

6-Super-Man -5
09-17-2008, 11:28 PM
I dunno, I doubt they would totally revamp it just for one season. I guess that's why if they're going to change it, they would change it this season, but I don't think they will.

We'll have to wait and see!

redkryptoniteisthebest
09-17-2008, 11:30 PM
Agh! The wait is makin' me go crazy. Its kinda funny how we've patiently waited for S8 to get here, then the day before the premiere, we all go nuts, lol.

minerva73
09-17-2008, 11:33 PM
I'm not quite sure what you're saying, but if your referring to the glamour shots, everyone's were the same (excluding AA and LV, since they were new).

*agreeing* Yeah, the only thing that changed in the other main characters glamour shots were the pictures that were behind them.

TW had a scene from Shattered (I think) behind him in the opening credits for S6 and in S7 he had the scene from Exile.
MR had the scene from Crusade (thanks to Vergon6 for telling me that) for S6 and in S7, he had the scene from Subterranean when he was walking down the hallway.
KK had the scene from Vortex or Tempest when she looked up at the tornadoes in S6 and in S7, she had the scene from Promise when she was snooping around in the cellar.
AM had the scene from Arrival in the S6 opening credits and in S7, she had the scene from Wither when she touched the plant.
ED had the scene from Oracle when she was talking to Clark in S6 and in S7, she had the scene from Hydro (or Arrow).
Finally, JG had the view from LuthorCorp behind his name in S6 (awkward... :\) and in S7, he had a scene (which was actually of himself) from Phantom when he was with Bizarro in the dam.

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All in all, I'm guessing they'll at least change the scenes that play behind their glamour shots this season as well (maybe to feature some S7 scenes and a few S8 scenes for some characters).

Vergon6
09-17-2008, 11:50 PM
The scene behind Lex with the close-up of his eye was from "Crusade" after the stone flies through the door and Clark catches it.

superspider02
09-18-2008, 12:47 AM
Yea i really hope we get all new screens from everyone.

skully
09-18-2008, 01:16 AM
I am thinking the S8 credits will PROBABLY go like this:

Tom Welling
Allison Mack
Erica Durance
Aaron Ashmore
Cassidy Freeman
Sam Witwer
and Justin Hartley as Oliver QueenIf it's good enough for Craig, then it's good enough for me. :)

AM deserves 2nd billing.

yosemiteangel
09-18-2008, 01:19 AM
All I know is that Clark's got the opening slot. I don't care what the rest of the order is, honestly. I just hope that we get new images in the OC.

krpto
09-18-2008, 02:49 AM
I hope we still get the shot of clark saving the little boy in the credits It's one of my favorite scenes because it shows no matter how big and how powerful clark may become he will always care about the little kids and work to protect them.

Kschreck
09-18-2008, 02:54 AM
This would make for good opening credits:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYxGL0aFNlc


;)

skully
09-18-2008, 03:37 AM
Awesome fan-made clip. And I could certainly live with the concept. :)

SuperTim
09-18-2008, 08:10 AM
Cannot wait for these credits.

Shall be awesome indeed . . .

RedKalEL
09-18-2008, 08:26 AM
io tv has the same thing with allison mack after welling. i think she deserves it and is the most logical choice. i lvoe erica but allison deserves it more

6-Super-Man -5
09-18-2008, 08:29 AM
Yea i really hope we get all new screens from everyone.

I hope so too, maybe if they did change it, it would be more Superman themed, because it might be the last season, but if it isn't then... I don't know, but if there is a ninth season and it is the last, it should be Superman themed.

Jaderoyale
09-18-2008, 08:56 AM
Yeah it has been said now that AM is 2nd after TW, and that TW has glasses on his screen.
Which i'm assuming is the picture behind his cast shot.

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This would make for good opening credits:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYxGL0aFNlc


;)

Yeah i found that a while back on one of my many youtube searches, and i did enjoy it lol.

Smallville6
09-18-2008, 09:12 AM
This would make for good opening credits:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYxGL0aFNlc


;)

Wow! That was really awsome!

KaraClarkfan
09-18-2008, 02:23 PM
i can't wait to see it

SparkleforSmallville
09-18-2008, 02:41 PM
Maybe the new promo shots we keep hearing about
were for the opening credits for S8. I sure hope so!!

The DISH descriptions for S7 listed TW, KK, MR, but the Credits had MR second.
AM maybe put it in her contract to have 2nd billing. She does deserve it:)

superhippie2000
09-18-2008, 03:52 PM
my tivo has TW AM ED and AA for the premiere so hopefully thats the main cast order. secondary cast who knows.

origin
09-18-2008, 04:09 PM
I am excited to see the new opening credits but I will probably not watch them until the episode is over, they usually have new clips in them.

Krypton935
09-18-2008, 04:12 PM
if chloe isnt number 2 i'm gonna be really pissed off! She is my fave character ever and she deserves it better than anyone!!!!

redkryptoniteisthebest
09-18-2008, 05:18 PM
if chloe isnt number 2 i'm gonna be really pissed off! She is my fave character ever and she deserves it better than anyone!!!!

I agree. From what I read, she is in the number two spot!!! YAY!!!

shy175223
09-18-2008, 05:19 PM
I heard that TW actually is wearing glasses in the opening credits. we will find in a few hours.

skully
09-18-2008, 05:29 PM
AM will be no. 2. I guarantee that the "seniority" she mentioned in the panel session at the recent Comic Con included not only a pay rise but also rightful recognition as the no. 2 star on the show.

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I heard that TW actually is wearing glasses in the opening credits. we will find in a few hours.Maybe it'll be one of the clips included, but I can't see them having it as his main image.

Will be interesting to see if they move away from the slowly turning, unshaven windblown image that has been with us for a few seasons now.

harryandginnyfanatic
09-18-2008, 05:32 PM
I'm not watching the opening credits. They give too much away. They spoil scenes not even aired yet.

S4 - Clark flying
S6 - Clark and Lex fight
S7 - Supergirl

Mr. Clark Kent27
09-18-2008, 05:39 PM
I am glad Lois will be in more episodes but what really bothers me is that Lois who is more important than Chloe, will probably be in less more episodes than Chloe. CHloe is in all 22.

Vergon6
09-18-2008, 06:06 PM
Even though I am going to be here tonight, I think I am going to tape "Odyssey". I found an old tape I had from last year, and it still has "Blue" on it. I would tape over the previous weeks episodes. That was only necessary for my first semester last year because I had night class on Thursdays, so that's why the last episode I recorded wasn't say "Arctic".

BOUROUX
09-18-2008, 06:27 PM
AintItCool has a review of "Odyssey" up. They confirm that AM is second in the credits. Yay!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38375

Tom Welling now wears eyeglasses in the opening credits. Alison Mack is now second-billed, and Chloe’s got new super-powers, newer even than her healing ability. Sam Witwer, who I think plays Doomsday, is in the opening credits but he’s not in the episode.

Bruce Knight
09-18-2008, 06:34 PM
heres what i think the opening credits will be like:

tom
erica
cassidy
allison
sam
Aaron
justin

Chrisluvstommy
09-18-2008, 06:42 PM
I am thinking the S8 credits will PROBABLY go like this:

Tom Welling
Allison Mack
Erica Durance
Aaron Ashmore
Cassidy Freeman
Sam Witwer
and Justin Hartley as Oliver Queen

I think Justin will be higher I think he'll be over Cassidy unless you know something we don't ;)

superadam87
09-18-2008, 06:43 PM
will someone please capture the credits, post them on youtube and link them here.... i love the opening credits.

skully
09-18-2008, 06:47 PM
AintItCool has a review of "Odyssey" up. They confirm that AM is second in the credits. Yay!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38375

Tom Welling now wears eyeglasses in the opening credits. Alison Mack is now second-billed, and Chloe’s got new super-powers, newer even than her healing ability. Sam Witwer, who I think plays Doomsday, is in the opening credits but he’s not in the episode.Thanks for the link.

Clark in glasses and AM second-billed. Sweet!! :D

And ya gotta love the closing clip!!!

ClarkyBoy14
09-18-2008, 06:48 PM
I am thinking the S8 credits will PROBABLY go like this:

Tom Welling
Allison Mack
Erica Durance
Aaron Ashmore
Cassidy Freeman
Sam Witwer
and Justin Hartley as Oliver Queen

I agree.

Aries83
09-18-2008, 07:07 PM
Allison is second! YES! You have arrived, Miss Mack. Sorry it only took 7 years! :D

superadam87
09-18-2008, 07:24 PM
someone post them!

skully
09-18-2008, 07:26 PM
someone post them!Apparently Kel-El09 is working on it.

superadam87
09-18-2008, 07:27 PM
f yes! im stoked.

----- Added 9 Minutes later -----

let mek now what its up

skully
09-18-2008, 07:37 PM
Well, it's actually Rosey, who's gonna put them up. He already has a link on the Live Discussion thread but it appears to be busy due to heavy demand (not surprisingly!!) :)

superadam87
09-18-2008, 07:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6imeHCyC_o

Lexgirl33
09-18-2008, 07:41 PM
:lol: at the voices in the video

Good credits, glad Justin is in there :D

Aldo
09-18-2008, 07:44 PM
I couldn't help myself! LoL that was great!

superadam87
09-18-2008, 07:48 PM
i dunno why...

but i wish it would've said

and JUSTIN HARTLEY
as OLIVER QUEEN

I dunno why

skully
09-18-2008, 07:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6imeHCyC_oSweet, thanks for that. Love the "squeeeee"s when Justin Hartley comes on!!!! :)

Jor-El's Oracle
09-18-2008, 07:59 PM
pretty sweet.. nice credits.

skully
09-18-2008, 08:02 PM
Rosey has a link to a better quality Youtube clip on the Live Discussion thread.

Kel-El09
09-18-2008, 08:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjYvO91mUKc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjYvO91mUKc)

A_Chloe.S._Fan
09-18-2008, 08:16 PM
I am thinking the S8 credits will PROBABLY go like this:

Tom Welling
Allison Mack
Erica Durance
Aaron Ashmore
Cassidy Freeman
Sam Witwer
and Justin Hartley as Oliver Queen
That's the exact order it went in.

avisray1992
09-18-2008, 08:19 PM
^ The only difference was that for Justin Hartley it didn't have the 'and' and 'as Oliver Queen' part.

superman07
09-18-2008, 08:21 PM
i missed the first ten minutes so first time seeing the credits. Looks like a good line-up

Routh
09-18-2008, 08:25 PM
Love the new credits, just a few things I didn't like:

- TW's background clip was just... him trying to punch Bizarro. I was hoping for something a little more symbolic, like the shirt ripping open from last year.
- Same ED clips before her title card. But her background clip was beautiful.
- A lot of recycled stuff, like the explosion from Nemesis.
- Justin's clip is separated by a lot of random stuff.
- Justin's body is faded at the bottom! Why???

Other than that, they're beautiful. :)

minerva73
09-18-2008, 08:33 PM
^ I wholeheartedly agree with the things that you pointed out, Routh. I guess I can understand the Nemesis scene since it was somewhat defining, but the repetition of ED clips wasn't really...what I had in mind. I guess they didn't have that many epic Lois scenes from S7, but I was hoping that they would've used when she ran up on Gina in Descent or something.

*agrees that they're beautiful*

----- Added 57 Seconds later -----

I loved Cassidy Freeman's bouncy hair and Sam Witwer's serious face. I also loved the Jimmy shot from Sleeper that they put in there.

eas
09-18-2008, 08:52 PM
Love the new credits, just a few things I didn't like:

- TW's background clip was just... him trying to punch Bizarro. I was hoping for something a little more symbolic, like the shirt ripping open from last year.
- Same ED clips before her title card. But her background clip was beautiful.
- A lot of recycled stuff, like the explosion from Nemesis.
- Justin's clip is separated by a lot of random stuff.
- Justin's body is faded at the bottom! Why???

Other than that, they're beautiful. :)

I completely agree!!

Also, I have to say that I'm bummed out that they used a scene where Cassidy is being held by Clark, rather than using the "Apocolypse" scene where Clark holds Lois. And the whole scene with Lois running in handcuffs when he grabs her is kind of randomly thrown in there...

I thought the pacing was a bit off and it was bit choppy and too fast.

morrigan01
09-18-2008, 08:54 PM
I can't believe Justin didn't get the "and" credit for his. Kinda lame IMO.

And Sam is in them. Looking all serious. *gigglesnort*

alejandrita439
09-18-2008, 08:55 PM
well i like the new credits..
its kind of wired not seeing MR or KK

eas
09-18-2008, 09:04 PM
I can't believe Justin didn't get the "and" credit for his. Kinda lame IMO.



Yeah, I was wondering about that, too. It seemed rather odd to have him at the very end, without the "and" credit.

biggkoz
09-18-2008, 09:11 PM
This would make for good opening credits:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYxGL0aFNlc


;)


Wow that was really good.

Legendary Lois & Clark
09-18-2008, 09:15 PM
What an awesome shot of Chloe scared and running away.:rolleyes:
What is she running away from? Here character traits?
All of a sudden I don't feel so bad anymore.:p

I said it before and I'll say it again, just not the same without Micheal Rosenbaum. I even miss Kristin a bit, and I never thought I'd say that.

Karafan1
09-18-2008, 09:20 PM
I like the new credits but I see they went back to Clark flying at the end of the credits. I was hoping they'd get something else

Legendary Lois & Clark
09-18-2008, 09:26 PM
Justin Hartly must be shaking his head after seeing himself in the opening credits. I know that Smallville prides itself in peddling the skin, but do they have to make it that obvious? I guess they are hoping people that are channel surfing will be changing the channel at that time and go "Whoah!!!!".

falcon64z8
09-19-2008, 12:13 AM
I dunno if this was already mentioned before, but is Kara not gonna be a regular in this season anymore? She was in the opening for last season why take her out this season?

yosemiteangel
09-19-2008, 12:16 AM
I dunno if this was already mentioned before, but is Kara not gonna be a regular in this season anymore? She was in the opening for last season why take her out this season?

She's not in this season. She'll be in one episode (as far as I know), so she has no place in the Opening credits.

ClareKent
09-19-2008, 01:15 AM
I'm kinda dissapointed since there where no new shots of TW, AM, ED, and AA, I mean, if they could do it for the new ones, it would've been nice if they re make the entire opening credits...but it's ok
In other hand, I cannot say that I wasn't surprise to see AM right after TW, I mean, since she's now the only one who's been with TW since the beggining it's ok, but I still I was surprise :)

superspider02
09-19-2008, 01:31 AM
So knew it was going to be this order for a long time now. I to wish the old cast had new "Glamor shots".

Karafan1
09-19-2008, 01:34 AM
This may have already been posted but I'm to lazy to look through 7 pages so here's my question..If Gough and Millar left the show, why are their names still on the opening credits and on that exploding bottle at the end??

Vergon6
09-19-2008, 01:38 AM
This may have already been posted but I'm to lazy to look through 7 pages so here's my question..If Gough and Millar left the show, why are their names still on the opening credits and on that exploding bottle at the end??
Because the 'Developed for Television by' is like 'created by'. You will notice they are no longer listed as the executive producers at the start of the end credits.

AndyBear1980
09-19-2008, 02:13 AM
Allison having second billing is nice to see. Good for her!

Storm45
09-19-2008, 10:55 AM
Allison having second billing is nice to see. Good for her!

Don't say such a thing! It might cause an upset :lol:

I thought they took too much time in the credit to show Justin Hartley. There were a bunch of random scenes that had nothing to do with him before he apeared (sic).

miks
09-19-2008, 11:09 AM
I love the AM got second billing. Leading lady that she is!

eas
09-19-2008, 11:13 AM
Don't say such a thing! It might cause an upset :lol:

I thought they took too much time in the credit to show Justin Hartley. There were a bunch of random scenes that had nothing to do with him before he apeared (sic).




Why would it cause an upset? I fully expected Mack to the 2nd billing, as well as she should be. I am VERY surprised that Hartley didn't get an "and" billing.

Also, I agree about JH... it looked too much like they tacked him on in the end. I also didn't like the shirt he was wearing... it should be darker.

shy175223
09-19-2008, 11:19 AM
yeah, I was suprised too that JH didn't get the "and' billing either humm maybe that is just for veteran actors like JG. I'm also glad that AM got second billing.

eas
09-19-2008, 11:26 AM
The opening season 8 credits doesn't mention an executive producer change but rather it states, "Developed for Television By Al Gough and Miles Millar", although this means that it was created by them if its not presented with any other information it can imply that Al and Miles are currently the executive producers which is why your getting all the comments about it. In the opening season 4 credits of, 'Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman', the beginning was remade to include both, "Developed for Television by Deborah Joy Levine", and, "Executive Producers Eugenie Ross-Leming and Brad Buckner".

It did mention executive producers... at the very end, it listed PS3 as the 4 executive producers after the "fade to black". This is how it's always been done in the past. But, before it said Alfred Gough and Miles Millar.

As Vergnon pointed out: Develeoped for TV just means that AlMiles are the ones who developed the show with the WB and that's exactly how it used to be listed below. The two different credits were always broken out that way.

Storm45
09-19-2008, 11:31 AM
Why would it cause an upset? I fully expected Mack to the 2nd billing, as well as she should be. I am VERY surprised that Hartley didn't get an "and" billing.

I'm not talking about you then. Last time someone just said they were happy for AM being second billed there were :

Booo! Sorry, I may be alone in it, but I just had to chime in.
In all seriousness though, I'm utterly sick of Chloe and I'm a huge Erica/Lois fan. I will admit that Allison is a good actress though. I just can't stand her character anymore or how the show continues to cater to her when they really don't need to. The series plots and story arcs are what really matters in the end anyway, and everyone knows very well who Clark's leading lady is going to be this year, even if they refuse to admit it.

who cares AM is in the second bliling...I mean its not like her is the one promoted by the CW or the one sharing a storylines with Clark YAY!!!

Even Justin is more lead than AM right now

I never "dreamed" about ED being on the second spot, not like some that "dreaming" its all they have this season, as I said Clois/Lois fans have the main storyline have the season already owned, so keep your second billing. We knows who keeps the main focus and Superman

Ironically enough, Mary Lynn Rajskub's character was also named Chloe and was also the one doing the hacking and was in the C plot relationship.
C for Chloe.

Then it goes on into other pettyness of the kind. That's the upset I'm talking about. Anyways, I won't go on into this as it's well and fortunately over and hopefully won't be repeated here. I was just using a bit of humor.

skylar
09-19-2008, 12:10 PM
The credits are how I expected them to be. But one thing that got me upset was a the end they had Clark carrying Tess, why wouldn't they have the one when Clark pick up Lois in Apocalypse to end the credits.

miks
09-19-2008, 12:12 PM
I was disappointed because they had such old pictures. Why couldn't they get newer stuff?! I'm glad the end scene was with Tess instead of Lois; it shows him saving people in future episodes instead of just the same old stuff they always show.

Zungas
09-19-2008, 12:27 PM
Very strange not seeing Kristin.

Tacitus
09-19-2008, 12:29 PM
I was expecting to see Justin in there as well. It was strange that Michael, John and Kristin weren't there, it felt like something was missing. There was this scene of Clark taking off, but I don't remember seeing that in past episodes. Either my memory is failing me or Clark will start flying soon. I'm hoping its the later.

SparkleforSmallville
09-19-2008, 12:34 PM
Awesome credits! I loved the scenes of Clark that they picked, and I'm glad they kept the beginning from, Commencement. The new pic from Odessey of Clark in the rain, Yay! we get to see it every Thurs.!!!:)

Tacitus
09-19-2008, 12:58 PM
I agree, that is a fantastic shot of Tom, I really like it.

AndiGirl
09-19-2008, 01:33 PM
I was kind of surprised Ollie wasnt after Jimmy...he was kind of a last thought at the end. Kind of weird...

eas
09-19-2008, 02:08 PM
I'm not talking about you then. Last time someone just said they were happy for AM being second billed there were :

[quotes here]

Then it goes on into other pettyness of the kind. That's the upset I'm talking about. Anyways, I won't go on into this as it's well and fortunately over and hopefully won't be repeated here. I was just using a bit of humor.

LOL... I think that there are die-hard fans on BOTH sides of this fence. And there are some who actually love both actresses...

It might just be good if we all took a step back and realized that we're ALL fans of the SAME show.

That's a good thing... and it's as it should be.

Mack does a phenomonal job. She is in all 22 episodes and has been with the series since Day One. Durance also does a phenomonal job. She was originally hired to do a 4 episode stint back in S4, and - now - in S8, she's coming into her own & her character has a very strong presence on the show.

Both Mack and Durance deserve props for what each has accomplished in the amount of time they've been (respectively) at "SV". And the billing reflects the history and role of each character on the series... respectively.

No need for negativity on either side... at least, that's how I see it.

morrigan01
09-19-2008, 02:29 PM
The credits are how I expected them to be. But one thing that got me upset was a the end they had Clark carrying Tess, why wouldn't they have the one when Clark pick up Lois in Apocalypse to end the credits.

I think they showed the shot of him carrying Tess instead of Lois because in the Tess shot he's actually walking towards the camera - which makes it more hero/Superman-like. With the Lois shot, he didn't walk carrying her at all. (He was too busy standing there smiling at her ;) )

harryandginnyfanatic
09-19-2008, 02:31 PM
I miss Kara. :(

shy175223
09-19-2008, 03:06 PM
Don't worry she'll be back.

JB1986
09-19-2008, 03:37 PM
Overall, I liked the opening credits. However, I would have preferred either one of these orders:

Tom Welling
Allison Mack
Erica Durance
Justin Hartley
Aaron Ashmore
Cassidy Freeman
Sam Witwer

or

Tom Welling
Allison Mack
Erica Durance
Aaron Ashmore
Cassidy Freeman
Sam Witwer
and Justin Hartley as Oliver Queen

umm
09-19-2008, 04:26 PM
I am perfectly happy with the opening creedits, they are just as they should be! And nicely done to, new shots depending on which character we are talking about etc... As for Kara, well she is only going to be in two episodes so there is no sense wasting money and screentime!

shy175223
09-19-2008, 04:50 PM
yeah, me too.

SSJConan
09-19-2008, 05:14 PM
I am perfectly happy with the opening creedits, they are just as they should be! And nicely done to, new shots depending on which character we are talking about etc... As for Kara, well she is only going to be in two episodes so there is no sense wasting money and screentime!

I thought it was only one episode?

StrippedSmile
09-19-2008, 11:21 PM
very happy to see AM second billed.
(:

Shadowlord367
09-20-2008, 01:05 PM
I didn't really like last years credits. Too rushed and I didn't agree with clip selection.

Season six's were perfect though.

I didn't know that the "And" title was good, I always thought they were snubbing John and Martha.

However, giving Justin that title then makes sense.

Not a fan of the "Sleeper" clip for Jimmy, but other than that nice credits.

Tatiana
09-20-2008, 01:11 PM
I think they showed the shot of him carrying Tess instead of Lois because in the Tess shot he's actually walking towards the camera - which makes it more hero/Superman-like. With the Lois shot, he didn't walk carrying her at all. (He was too busy standing there smiling at her ;) )


Ya plus it is more of a new shot, which shows his attitude for this season, a more superman attitude

----- Added 3 Minutes later -----

I am perfectly happy with the opening creedits, they are just as they should be! And nicely done to, new shots depending on which character we are talking about etc... As for Kara, well she is only going to be in two episodes so there is no sense wasting money and screentime!


I agree, they were good, although i did want to see a new shot for Tom and AM, but it was hot anyway. I liked the order, plus the fact they put Justin in the end shows he won't take the attention away from Clark like some people were saying he would

Bruce Knight
09-20-2008, 02:56 PM
heres what i think the opening credits will be like:

tom
erica
cassidy
allison
sam
Aaron
justindam i was wrong :o

LuckyKrypto
09-20-2008, 03:50 PM
I really wish there had been some new pictures of Tom, instead of the same gray shirt, looking over the shoulder thing...I'm kinda sick of that, but oh well.:rolleyes:

RedDwarfette
09-21-2008, 08:01 AM
Pretty boring credits. With all the new faces, I think I expected more new clips mixed in there. Meh.