TV Ratings for "Odyssey"

[Routh]

Discuss the television ratings (not how you rate the episode) for Odyssey.

[scifigirl]

I think that we have three things against us in terms of ratings. 1. Michael and Kristen are gone and the fans that watched solely for them will not watch. 2. The premier was poorly promoted. 3. Arctic left a bad taste in a lot of fan's mouths as well as the Doomsday spoilers. We will have to see how those balance against the positives: 1. People's curiosity to see what this show will be like when it is not run by goughlar and 2. The return of the Justice league. I predict 3-3.5 million.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I predict 4-6 million views or higher, this was a really exciting wait, and now it's almost here!

[oldblackmagick]

i'm going to be positive and say we will get like 5.2-5.6 million. People are really looking forward to this season...my friend that hates smallville is turning in cause she think that aquaman is cute and that justin hartley looks so "bad boyish"...so lets hope there are other people that may watch just for the frivoulousness of it all:D im watching and dvring and then watching again...wonder if that helps any:p

[warriorrenegade]

3-3.5 tops. Not alot of cooler buzz.

[superspider02]

well i think it will get 4-5million viewers for the live airing and then bumped up a few points for the DVR counting.

[Kel-El09]

I think it will be one of the higher/highest rated premieres. Yes, there are negatives...MR and KK gone, Doomsday, poor season 8 promotion, and other things...but I think all the anticipation, and the spoilers for the rest of the season...aka...Clois, daily planet, chloe's powers, LOSH, Justice League...will make people tune in!! I say 4.5 Million!!!

[skully]

Any word on the performance of 90210 v House?

If all goes to plan, the Smallville season Premiere will draw 5.5 million and 90210 will muster a paltry 1.6 million. :)

[superspider02]

well i believe for its series premiere it was around 4-5million viewers and then the next week droped down to around 3 million. But i am hoping for smallville to be in 5million range for premiere and stay in 4-5million range for season like most of season 7 was besides a few times dropping to low/high 3 million range.

[skully]

^^^^^^^^
Yeah, 4 to 5 mill every week would be a good effort under the Asstrough circumstances.

[yaseen101]

I think that we have three things against us in terms of ratings. 1. Michael and Kristen are gone and the fans that watched solely for them will not watch. 2. The premier was poorly promoted. 3. Arctic left a bad taste in a lot of fan's mouths as well as the Doomsday spoilers. We will have to see how those balance against the positives: 1. People's curiosity to see what this show will be like when it is not run by goughlar and 2. The return of the Justice league. I predict 3-3.5 million.

More positive's include:

1-the various interviews done by IGN, Comiccon, TV. Guide, CW Source and many others.

2- the various fans of Supernatural fans camping at the SV section who saw the trailer, who tell one of their friends and one tells another.

3-The Youtube videos.

4- The recent clips released.

5- Various internet spoiler sites.

So yeah SV has a chance at 4.5 million.

[Smallville6]

If it gets bad ratings I'm mainly blaming the poor promotion it gets from the CW.

[Ilovebeinglost]

Al Gough and Miles Millar have officially left. This will be the first episode without them. The main reason I was watching Smallville was because they were the producers and encoded information our kind. Without them I'll have no use for watching and the ratings would go down.

or up

new blood is good sometimes. The show was getting stale

The main reason I watch Smallville is for the development of Superman and Tom of course. If he leaves so do I :D

[TheLastKryptonian]

I'm hoping for 5.5 million though I really want 6 million!

Bizarro got 5.18 million and the year before Zod got 4.96 million or something.

The CW (as crappy as it is) is available in more households than last year (I would hope) so that means more casual viewers besides hardcore fans.

Nothing new is playing on other channels besides America's Got Talent on NBC for 30 minutes and Hole in a Wall on FOX. Reruns on everything else (Ugly Betty on ABC, CSI on CBS).

I think Odyssey has a good chance of high ratings despite bad promotion from the network. :)

[Smallville6]

^Me too! I think SV has a good chance.
lets all cross our fingers for 6 million!

[Kel-El09]

Also, maybe people who watch supernatural, will watch smallville right before it!!

[jimmyolsenblues]

we need at least 4 million at worst.

[Jaderoyale]

I'm hoping it does well.
The CW may not have promoted alot, but trailer clips have been released, there was comicon which caused alot of madness, and interviews with all the cast (except for TW).

I hope it gets at LEAST 4 million.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Any word on the performance of 90210 v House?

If all goes to plan, the Smallville season Premiere will draw 5.5 million and 90210 will muster a paltry 1.6 million. :)

Of course House trounced it with 18mil, but the 3.33mil for 90210 and a couple of weeks ago ANTM premiere 3.48mil they seem to be happy with those ratings, from what I've read.

I know Smallville can do better than that! Bizarro was about 5mil, I think. One comment was that the CW seems to be the only network that is doing better this year so far. {I guess they are happy with Baby steps.}

I guess if they are happy with 3 or 4 mil, then SV should have no problem getting renewed:)
I'm so excited for tonight!!!!:D

[mistaguitarmasta]

I predict 4-6 million views or higher, this was a really exciting wait, and now it's almost here!

I like your optimism and I hope you're right! I would put in my two cents, but I'm terrible at judging these things, so I'll just say I hope you're right and leave it at that.

[superhippie2000]

i think if anything the justice league is what will bring people in. atleast the people who watch the CW enough to actually catch the comercial. but i think i have seen bigfoot more times the i have smallville promos lol. i think with lex leaving it will be very differently unless the new villians can live up to lex. and even lionel for that matter. smallville and supernatural probably need fan promotion to build up ratings since the CW doesnt promote them at all. i know for supernatural atleast most of those viewers watch cause someone else told them about it and chances are if you didnt watch season 4 of smallville you probably wouldnt have seen SN get promoted or even know who jensen ackles was lol. so until 8 tonight everyone should try to get there friends to watch.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I really have no clue for this season. On the negatives, so many people have left, a lot of people are powerless because of Ike, the CW did a pretty poor job with the promotion, etc. But on the positive side, the SV people have been doing self-promotion via interviews like CRAZY, the Justice League is going to be back, there is little competition, and people may be curious to see how PS3 and the new cast member do.

I'm just really hoping we get at least 4 million viewers.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Anyone find anything about the rating yet?

[ClarkyBoy14]

They won't be released until tomorrow. About 10 AM EST.

[6-Super-Man -5]

They won't be released until tomorrow. About 10 AM EST.

Oh, thanks for info.

[ClarkyBoy14]

No problem. I'm excited to see them, but I'm a little scared at the same time... :\

[Clark/Lois-fan]

No problem. I'm excited to see them, but I'm a little scared at the same time... :\

me 2 :D

[jimmyolsenblues]

i got to tell u, i don't want to sound negative, i did not see cw11 really promote this season, i don't think we are breaking 4.2 million is my guess, 4.1 million viewers is my guess.

[6-Super-Man -5]

No problem. I'm excited to see them, but I'm a little scared at the same time... :\

Me as well. :\

[shark87]

A bad start for Smallville

In season-premiere news, it looks like the CW made the right decision ending Smallville in midseason. Smallville opened season eight (time flies!) with a diluted (and fourth-place) 2.9/ 5 in the overnights. Comparably, that was down by 19 percent from it’s year-ago season-opener (3.6/ 6 on Sept. 27, 2007). Better news for the CW was the season-premiere of lead-out Supernatural (#5: 2.7/ 4 at 9 p.m.) with retention of 93 percent out of Smallville.

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/content_display/community/programming-insider/newsletters/e3ia53fe02c056c13a492e8702e6a4b1e54

Can someone tell me how to calculete 2.9/ 5 in millions?

[tariksam]

They won't be ending smallville at mid season

[SueB]

Can someone tell me how to calculete 2.9/ 5 in millions?



Perhaps S8 will focus on closure now instead of stretching to S9.

If it gets bad ratings I'm mainly blaming the poor promotion it gets from the CW.

Hardly. Smallville is not CW's intended demographic. Look at the CWTV lead in ad for the Smallville trailer --- it was for OB tampons for crying out loud. I don't think they had much dollars for Smallville ads and wasting it on the CW audience would not have changed these numbers.

There was more free advertisements (via interviews and spoilers) than last year by a LONG shot. ED was ubiquitous. I lost count after nearly a dozen. Perhaps if TW had engaged, but really, SV is a hard sell after 8 years.

Further, it's not like they were targeting anyone outside of mythos and Clois in their interviews. Look back at the giddy comments about Clois Clois Clois in the spoiler section.

But, regardless of pre-show spoilers, I honestly think the numbers reflect mostly the age of the show and the loss of MR and KK. Pimping mythos and Clois was not enough to have a new crowd come back. The show with big numbers (early seasons) was not what we saw last night -- SV has been praised for changing with the times but that doesn't mean it's going to draw in an audience that was never there.

I also agree, they'll finish S8.

[tariksam]

Wait for the finals and the DVR ratings and it probably jump at 5 million or a little bit more. Past ratings have been low but have a big come back with the DVR ratings which is now really really important.. And Smallville almost always is in the Top 5 of shows with more DVR Audience (this with big networks like NBC ABC FOX etc)

[smithy698]

End Smallville mid-season - where has that come from? That sort of talk is really worrying :(

I think the lack of promotion does have an impact - there are loads of ways the CW could have promoted the season premiere if they had had a will to do so. You can't expect a massive audience if you don't make the effort to tell viewers how the show is moving on in a really organised and clever campaign.

[Jade4813]

I'm not tolling the bells for Smallville yet.

I DO think that the CW promoted Smallville badly. I know of several people - on this board even - who said they hadn't even realized that Smallville was premiering last night and it was only by chance that they caught it. And they're here on the internet boards. But the CW marketed Smallville BADLY. It's likely that, in general, only people who GO on boards were really clear about when SV premiered.

For those who don't go to boards like this...well, frankly, they might have given up on the show at the end of last season when it was clearly stalling out. And, not going on boards, they haven't realized yet that this year isn't going to be the same old thing of Clark moping over Lana and needing Chloe to act as his brain.

I'm not terribly surprised that Odyssey didn't take off, because unless I went on these boards, I wouldn't have known that Smallville wasn't going to be the same old same old this year and I wouldn't have tuned in. Hopefully, though, word of mouth will start to get around and we'll see an increase.

We'll have to wait and see.

But...er...also...Smallville isn't being cancelled mid-season, as far as I know. So I don't know what's up with that.

ETA: Also, Smallville doesn't have to fit 100% within their target demographic to be worthy of promotion. Far as I understand it, they can use all the viewers they can get.

Oh, and...I use tampons and I watch Smallville. So, going by your reasoning, if that's all they're looking for, then I'm just within their demographic.

[tariksam]

Nahh Smallville is ignored it doesn't have a 90210 zip code, or Kristin Bell as narrator "Now a man of steel will be just across a desk of a mad dog, this will be interesting, until the next gossip, You know you love me"

[JAMHEXXX]

These numbers will change, they are only fast affiliate numbers. They are also excluding Houston, Cincinnati, Columbus, Louisville and Dayton. I suggest everyone wait for the finals before they suggest that Clois brought down Smallville.


The people who write off DVR viewers as wasted need to understand that they now track commercial viewing on DVR's. So, that means no viewer is not counted or wanted.

[SueB]

Let me clarify on the CW promotion. If the CW is simply running commercials on the CW network, I really don't think that is the SV audience.

If the CW was to actually fork over cash for radio ads and print ads, that would be different and may have made a difference. But we should have seen that coming. The CW is paying "rock bottom price" for SV from all reports. It's an 8 year show. It was hoping the core audience would be retained, not expecting new.

There's no demographics numbers yet either. The demographic will go a long way if they are good. The DVR is still a debatable issue because the ads are skipped.

Regardless of ratings, I'm am positive S8 will finish out for DVD sales alone. My only comment is that S9 looks more iffy and for that I am grateful -- I don't want a S9 because they either stretch out Clark's story or do the show without him. Neither are good options IMO.

[tariksam]

These numbers will change, they are only fast affiliate numbers. They are also excluding Houston, Cincinnati, Columbus, Louisville and Dayton. I suggest everyone wait for the finals before they suggest that Clois brought down Smallville.

Duh it was clois and ED doing promotion that's why people didn't tuned in...:rolleyes:

[Jade4813]

These numbers will change, they are only fast affiliate numbers. They are also excluding Houston, Cincinnati, Columbus, Louisville and Dayton. I suggest everyone wait for the finals before they suggest that Clois brought down Smallville.


Oh, that's interesting. I didn't know that.

So we're waiting on affiliates and DVR? (I DVRed it myself, last night, because I was in class until 8:15, and I wonder how many people who don't go on message boards DVRed it because that way, if it was as bad as last year (IMO, because this is what I'd have done if I didn't go on boards like this), they could fastforward through it to get to scenes they thought they might want to watch.)

So I agree. We should wait until the numbers come in before we judge.

I also don't think that the ratings for one episode are necessarily going to dictate what's going to happen with ratings the rest of the season.

[JAMHEXXX]

I just love how Marc over at mediaweek is pimping Supernatural even though it received lower numbers then Smallville. He never seems to give Smallville its due.

[tariksam]

The DVR ratings come in like 2 or three weeks but if we go by last year Smallville usually has like 900,000-1 million over their Live audience.

e.g arctic = preliminar = 3.471.000, final = 3.850.000, life+7 (DVR) = 4.521.000

[Kreukie]

Hardly. Smallville is not CW's intended demographic. Look at the CWTV lead in ad for the Smallville trailer --- it was for OB tampons for crying out loud. I don't think they had much dollars for Smallville ads and wasting it on the CW audience would not have changed these numbers.

There was more free advertisements (via interviews and spoilers) than last year by a LONG shot. ED was ubiquitous. I lost count after nearly a dozen. Perhaps if TW had engaged, but really, SV is a hard sell after 8 years.

Further, it's not like they were targeting anyone outside of mythos and Clois in their interviews. Look back at the giddy comments about Clois Clois Clois in the spoiler section.

But, regardless of pre-show spoilers, I honestly think the numbers reflect mostly the age of the show and the loss of MR and KK. Pimping mythos and Clois was not enough to have a new crowd come back. The show with big numbers (early seasons) was not what we saw last night -- SV has been praised for changing with the times but that doesn't mean it's going to draw in an audience that was never there.

Mostly everyone who's a true fan of the mythos has been gone from the series for awhile now, with all the dragging that has been done with Clark's character, it's about four seasons too late to make things right. And those who have stuck around with Smallville for what it was, for as long as it's been around who are the majority of the viewership, are now being alienated for a fandom that left a long time ago.

[JAMHEXXX]

The DVR ratings come in like 2 or three weeks but if we go by last year Smallville usually has like 900,000-1 million over their Live audience.

e.g arctic = preliminar = 3.471.000, final = 3.850.000, life+7 (DVR) = 4.521.000



Here are the Live+7 ratings for the first 12 Episodes of last season.

Bizarro............5.59 million
Kara................5.04 million
Fierce..............5.20 million
Cure................5.61 million
Action..............5.08 million
Lara................4.75 million
Wrath..............5.12 million
Blue.................4.90 million
Gemini.............4.05 million
Persona............4.34 million
Siren.................4.53 million
Fracture.............4.18 million

[geminis]

I consider myself a true fan of the mythos and I'm still here. I think a lot of people would also resent and disagree with that part of your statement. Eight years is a long time for a tv show; I'm pretty sure the majority of shows that go on for more than a handful of years all suffer a drop in viewing. (e.g., E.R. It lost George Clooney but still continues) Those people who are alienated, well, change and growth is difficult to accept. Dragging out the relationship with Lana was painful and got boring (IMHO). I'd definitely agree that Clark's progression has been at times painstakingly slow but with the changing of the guard, it looks like that might change. Because the CW slights, ignores and disrespects Smallville the general public (who might really enjoy the improvements) is probably completely unaware of the fact that Clark is finally taking some pretty major steps on the path to becoming Superman. And don't count out the fandom that is still here, just because of a small percentage that did leave.

[Kreukie]

I said "Mostly everyone", not "Everyone".

[BadToad]

The CW season premiere of Smallville led off with 4.383 million viewers and a 1.8/6 in both demo categories. It was down around 14% versus last year’s season premiere (9/27/07) of 5.08 million viewers, but only down about 5% among 18-49 year olds where last year it had a 1.9.

Source: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/09/19/thursday-september-18-flashpoint-nightmares-and-supernatural-score/5193

I don't think anyone can really be surprised that the numbers are going to go down from last season. Its not really unexpected, IMO. SV is 8 years old. Its gotten almost zero publicity for the upcoming season anywhere other then on the internet. It has NO support whatsoever from the network its on. It lost 2 popular cast members (3 if you count John Glover). And its leading actor, much as I love and adore him, will not appear publically to support or publicize the show.

I think we all need to view the ratings realistically, and concentrate more on hoping that the season is one that we can enjoy, and the show brings Clark's story to a fitting close. I'd just like the number to stay in the 4m's.

[redRound]

Al Gough and Miles Millar have officially left. This will be the first episode without them. The main reason I was watching Smallville was because they were the producers and encoded information our kind. Without them I'll have no use for watching and the ratings would go down.
Al, Miles, is that you?

[JAMHEXXX]

In season-premiere news, the CW’s veteran Smallville was on the map with 4.38 million viewers (#5) and a fourth-place 1.8/ 6 among adults 18-49. Smallville ranked first in the 8 p.m. hour in men 18-34 (2.2/ 8), men 18-49 (2.1/ 7) and males 12-34 (2.0/ 8), and second in adults 18-34 (1.8/ 6) and persons 12-34 (1.7/ 6).


The demos were pretty good.

Just wait for the finals to come in, they could go up considerably.

[costas22]

What bothers me is that certain "fans" of the show(especially from other websites) are happy with the potential bad rating.Let me clarify that i don't want a 9th season.I wasn't crazy about an 8th one either.However the show we all love in one shape or form is still here.It's not Lost,it sure has it's flaws but to gloat over a bad rating and call yourself a fan of the show is unacceptable.Does it really make a difference if they don't lean towards a Chlark direction?If it does then don't watch it.Iam a Chlarker but the survival of the show is above everything.On the rating itself,there is a lot of blame to go around.The CW put most of it's eggs in the 90210 and forgot about Smallville.Also the departures of Lana and Lex played a role.But let's not forget that season 5 didn't have much promise and until Reckoning it suprised us pleasently.The show has a fresh direction and could attract more viewers in the long haul.Here in Greece we have a saying:Every new beginning is difficult.

[tariksam]

In season-premiere news, the CW’s veteran Smallville was on the map with 4.38 million viewers (#5) and a fourth-place 1.8/ 6 among adults 18-49. Smallville ranked first in the 8 p.m. hour in men 18-34 (2.2/ 8), men 18-49 (2.1/ 7) and males 12-34 (2.0/ 8), and second in adults 18-34 (1.8/ 6) and persons 12-34 (1.7/ 6).


The demos were pretty good.

Just wait for the finals to come in, they could go up considerably.

Yes first place in men ....well if the damn CW remembered that men count too.

[psyko69]

4.4 ain't bad!

[myankskent]

Those ratings are excellent for Smallville. If they stay in the 4 million range and mix in some 5's later on, Smallville is getting picked up for another season assuming TPTB can get TW back.

[jimmyolsenblues]

THOSE ARE BETTER THAN I THOUGHT, and I can't remember the last time we won men 18-49.

[myankskent]

What bothers me is that certain "fans" of the show(especially from other websites) are happy with the potential bad rating.


The problem is that this is not a bad rating. People can talk all they want about the premier last season, the fact of the matter is that Smallville doesn't need to match last season to get picked up for next year. The CW is raving about shows like Gossip Girl and 90210 and they can't even come close to 4 million people. The CW is not stupid. They might not promote the hell out of Smallville, but they need Smallville's 4 million plus viewers every week.

[mskingston]

Thanks so much for the news. Those numbers are very good. I can't wait to see what the finals are. I'm keeping it all in perspective, but still, it was a wonderful 1-2 punch last night, with Smallville and Supernatural. I hope more viewers discover this in the coming weeks! :)

[geminis]

I said "Mostly everyone", not "Everyone".

My bad. But I also feel that you're being too pessimistic and that it's never too late to make things right. This is Superman we're talking about. He always comes through in the end.

Just out of curiosity, what are Gossip Girl and 990210's numbers? If they are below Smallville and Supernatural's, I want to revel in the fact and go "naner, naner, Dawn/CW!"

[Dor el]

A little loving from DO (a.k.a. pootyhead) would be nice. SV is helping to pay her unearned salary and she can't even muster up a teensyweensy bit of promotion? Well, that's just not nice.

[tariksam]

I am almost sure that 90210 is drooping (last episode it didn't reached the 3.5 mark) but it had almost 5 million on it premiere and Gossip girl had like 3.5?? I am not sure somebody should correct this numbers

[Ilovebeinglost]

Do we have a definite number yet?

[costas22]

Myankskent you are right.I didn't know about the final rating.I thought it was around the 3.5 mark.4.4 is fantastic.I believe that Arctic was 3.9 and season 7 has an average of 3.7.Of course it wasn't near Bizarro's rating but that shouldn't concern us.The cast has been significantly altered and it lost some key members.In some respects it is a new show.It has many new storylines beginning.If they can captivate the fans(based on Odyssey i believe they can) and with the first 10 episodes airing in a row,i believe that the ratings will stay around the 4.5 mark and hopefully increase.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Of course House trounced 90210 this week with 18mil, but with the 3.33mil for 90210 and a couple of weeks ago ANTM premiere 3.48mil they seem to be happy with those ratings, from what I've read.

I know Smallville can do better than that! Bizarro was about 5mil, I think. One comment was that the CW seems to be the only network that is doing better this year so far. {I guess they are happy with Baby steps.}
I guess if they are happy with 3 or 4 mil, then SV should have no problem getting renewed :)

Looks like Smallville will still be CW's top rated show.
In season-premiere news, the CW’s veteran Smallville was on the map with 4.38 million viewers (#5) and a fourth-place 1.8/ 6 among adults 18-49. Smallville ranked first in the 8 p.m. hour in men 18-34 (2.2/ 8), men 18-49 (2.1/ 7) and males 12-34 (2.0/ 8), and second in adults 18-34 (1.8/ 6) and persons 12-34 (1.7/ 6). The season-premiere of lead-out Supernatural, meanwhile, rose to a series-high in total viewers (#5, 3.96 million; A18-49: #4, 1.8/ 6), adults 18-49 (#5, 1.7/ 5), women 18-49 (1.8/ 5) and men 18-49 (1.6/ 5). Comparatively, Supernatural grew from its year-ago season-opener by 33 percent in total viewers and as much as 84 percent among women 18-49.

[ZODisGOD]

Anyone know how Smallville Odyssey did compared to the 90210 opener in terms of ratings?

[myankskent]

Of course it wasn't near Bizarro's rating but that shouldn't concern us.


Well, just one thing about Bizarro's rating. That episode had a lot going for it considering the fact that it had Bizarro in it, who was of course played by TW. That provided an extra incentive to watch. To top it off, they were also promoting Supergirl a lot as well before the season started and there were multiple "death" cliffhangers with the other characters that might've had people tuning in. "Odyssey" didn't feature Clark once in any of the promos and didn't have a powerful villain to attract attention. Let's see what happens when Doomsday starts to get promoted a lot as the season moves along.

[Twitch]

So, uh, I'm not really familiar with all this ratings stuff. Is 4.38 the absolute final number?

[tariksam]

No they are preliminars we are waiting preemtion and DVR the later is in 3 weeks

[SparkleforSmallville]

90210 premiere was higher, I think 5mil? but has since dropped into the 3 mil. and holding. Smallville will average higher, I believe. I loved Odyssey!

[Kel-El09]

and I live in Bryan, and I'm pretty sure that at least half of Texas, and parts of other states were wiped out by hurrican Ike. They have no power...and couldn't watch it. I do think that makes a huge difference!!!!!!!!!!

[curiosity]

In Ohio there are still a lot of people without power even today. And my cable was just fixed on Wednesday after it went out Sunday all over Ohio, so lots of people are still without cable, in fact it was like 30 percent or more of Time Warner customers still not on Thursday.

[ZODisGOD]

90210 premiere was higher, I think 5mil? but has since dropped into the 3 mil. and holding. Smallville will average higher, I believe. I loved Odyssey!

i hope 90210 will stay down there. When Smallville beats 90210 week in week out every week, I want Dawn to torture herself.

[curiosity]

Supernatural grew from its year-ago season-opener by 33 percent in total viewers and as much as 84 percent among women 18-49.

I don't watch Supernatural, it's just too much of a horror show for me.

[SparkleforSmallville]

I don't watch Supernatural, it's just too much of a horror show for me.

I've tried, but I get scared :lol:

[Timester]

Al Gough and Miles Millar have officially left. This will be the first episode without them. The main reason I was watching Smallville was because they were the producers and encoded information our kind. Without them I'll have no use for watching and the ratings would go down.

How is Hannah Montana, Goughlar?

[Tacitus]

The ratings seem pretty good to me, considering that we've lost 3 main characters and the original producers. However, I'm sure the ratings will increase significantly around episode 10 :lol:

[quietone]

Considering the fact that the show has received very poor promotion and marketing from the CW i think the ratings are pretty decent.

I'm amused that Smallville's ratings beat those for 90210 and Gossip Girl - the CW's pet shows.

[mistaguitarmasta]

No they are preliminars we are waiting preemtion and DVR the later is in 3 weeks
So the final ratings come in after 3 weeks? Really? Does it always take that long? I seem to recall it being less than that in the past...
i hope 90210 will stay down there. When Smallville beats 90210 week in week out every week, I want Dawn to torture herself.

AMEN! :rotfl:

[tariksam]

The final ratings with DVR the final without them are today

[Kara&Clana fan]

What bothers me is that certain "fans" of the show(especially from other websites) are happy with the potential bad rating.Let me clarify that i don't want a 9th season.I wasn't crazy about an 8th one either.However the show we all love in one shape or form is still here.It's not Lost,it sure has it's flaws but to gloat over a bad rating and call yourself a fan of the show is unacceptable.Does it really make a difference if they don't lean towards a Chlark direction?If it does then don't watch it.

I must say that I am kinda glad that the ratings are down and not because I'm not a real fan of SV it's because I'm not a fan of this new version of 'Lois and Clark' show which they insist on calling SV even though the real SV died in 'Arctic'.
(and no the show isn't in the same shape or form I came to love=>young adventurous Clark, Clana love, Clex relationship and Chloe friendship)

[bizzaroboy9]

this is awesome news!!! glad smallville still has its spark! :D

[skully]

Of course House trounced 90210 this week with 18mil, but with the 3.33mil for 90210 ...

[B]In season-premiere news, the CW’s veteran Smallville was on the map with 4.38 million viewers (#5)[B]Love the first bit. Expected, of course, but still good to see House wipe 90210 off the map.

And excellent that SV rated a million more than the tragic 90210. May it continue until Asstroff comes to her senses and markets TGS (The Great Show) or she's fired and someone else does it.

[boywithbluehanger]

LOL all the CW's ratings continue to suck badly as they pass off "cult" success when really the network is failing horribly. And too many people act like significant percentages of viewers-dropped per season is passable regarding poor advertising and promotion when obviously its mostly lost interest in the CW's shows and production quality.

Oh well, maybe Smallville won't be ruined before having a proper finale.

[unfocused]

Ok so... did TGS beat 90210 this week? It did right? That's awesome news.

By the way "Asstroff" is a fitting name.

[skully]

Yeah unfocused - SV rated 4.38 million to 90210's 3.3 million. Cop that Asstroff.

And I believe that included some opposition from some baseball games (at least in Chicago MLB pre-empted SV). A good effort by TGS.

[ClarkyBoy14]

For perspective...

CW premieres thus far:
90210: 4.65 million
America's Next Top Model: 3.51
Gossip Girl: 3.43
One Tree Hill: 3.24
Privileged: 2.64 million

Those are all final ratings.

----- Added 7 Minutes later -----

And season averages thus far:
America's Next Top Model (4 episodes): 3.88 million
90210 (4): 3.72
Gossip Girl (3): 3.47
One Tree Hill: (3): 3.3
Privileged (2): 2.54

----- Added 12 Minutes later -----

It's too bad that our viewership is down, but, all things considered, we did pretty good. And the demo numbers are great. It's too bad that guys are ICKY, because the CW would care if they weren't.

[babyluthor]

Not bad on the premier rating considering the lack of promotion. I still find it disturbing that more people watched "Hole in the Wall" than Smallville.

[ClarkyBoy14]

^It's surprising what people will watch. :p

[psyko69]

Finals in yet?

[Best Episode - 321]

FINAL RATINGS FOR ODYSSEY

CW Smallville (SP) 4,340,000 1.8/6 1.9/5
CW Supernatural (SP) 3,960,000 1.7/5 1.7/4


Small Drop in Final Ratings.
However, right now Smallville is still the CW's top rated show this week (Only Friday Night Smackdown can beat it tonight).

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/47810812/m/14810947?r=835102161#835102161

[unfocused]

For perspective...

CW premieres thus far:
90210: 4.65 million
America's Next Top Model: 3.51
Gossip Girl: 3.43
One Tree Hill: 3.24
Privileged: 2.64 million

Those are all final ratings.

----- Added 7 Minutes later -----

And season averages thus far:
America's Next Top Model (4 episodes): 3.88 million
90210 (4): 3.72
Gossip Girl (3): 3.47
One Tree Hill: (3): 3.3
Privileged (2): 2.54

----- Added 12 Minutes later -----

It's too bad that our viewership is down, but, all things considered, we did pretty good. And the demo numbers are great. It's too bad that guys are ICKY, because the CW would care if they weren't.
Thank you so much for this post. I really want to keep track of averages throughout the season to see where Smallville stands in the networks line up.

Tell me, when the final ratings for Smallvilles premier are revealed, do you think it would be better than 90210's premier?

[Best Episode - 321]

Tell me, when the final ratings for Smallvilles premier are revealed, do you think it would be better than 90210's premier?

No, The Finals are right above your post. Both viewer and demos are lower then 90210's premiere. However, they are better then subsequent episodes of 90210.

[Jade4813]

I think it looks pretty good, given the sucky marketing probably meant that only Internet fans were really aware that Smallville premiered last night. *sighs*

[ClarkyBoy14]

Thank you so much for this post. I really want to keep track of averages throughout the season to see where Smallville stands in the networks line up.

Tell me, when the final ratings for Smallvilles premier are revealed, do you think it would be better than 90210's premier?

If you want, I could post the averages in the ratings threads every week.

I was expecting the final to go down because of preemptions. Still not bad, though.

[6-Super-Man -5]

If you want, I could post the averages in the ratings threads every week.

I was expecting the final to go down because of preemptions. Still not bad, though.

I would like you to post the rating every week. :)

[ClarkyBoy14]

I would like you to post the rating every week. :)

Alright, I guess I will. :)

Surprisingly, the CW issued a press release trumpeting the ratings for Supernatural and Smallville!


"SUPERNATURAL" OPENS TO BEST RATINGS SINCE MAKING ITS CW DEBUT



SUPERNATURAL Debut Delivers The Show's Largest Audience and

Best Adults 18-49 Ratings Since Its CW Premiere in Sept. 06



SUPERNATURAL Posts Double-Digit Gains Versus Year Ago Debut In All Categories



SMALLVILLE Builds On or Matches Year Ago Premiere in Target Men Demos



September 19, 2008 (Burbank, CA) - Following strong performances from its Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday series, The CW's scored again with the fourth season premiere of SUPERNATURAL, which delivered the show's best ratings since making its CW debut (9/28/06) in adults 18-49 (1.7/5), women 18-49 (1.8/5), men 18-49 (1.6/5) and viewers (4.0mil), according to Live Plus Same Day Nielsen ratings for Thursday, Sept. 18, 2008



Versus its premiere last season (10/4/07), SUPERNATURAL improved dramatically with double-digit gains of +33% in adults 18-34 (1.6/5), +45% in women 18-34 (1.6/5), +42% in adults 18-49 (1.7/5), +64% in women 18-49 (1.8/5) and +33% in viewers (4mil).



SMALLVILLE's eighth season premiere ranked first in adults 18-34 (1.8/6-tie), men 18-34 (2.2/8), men 18-49 (2.1/7), persons 12-34 (1.8/6-tie) and males 12-34 (2.1/8).



SMALLVILLE improved on its premiere a year ago (9/27/07) in men 18-49 (5%) and matched in men 18-34.



The CW was first on Thursday night among men 18-34 (1.9/7-tie) and men 12-34 (1.9/7), and beat the Big 3 on Thursday in adults 18-34 (1.7/6), persons 12-34 (1.7/6) and men 18-49 (1.9/6).


I'm surprised that Smallville ranked first in all of those young people demos. That should really count for something.

[unfocused]

If you want, I could post the averages in the ratings threads every week.

I was expecting the final to go down because of preemptions. Still not bad, though.

If it isn't much trouble, I would really like that to, thank you.

[SnowBird]

I don't know a lot about ratings so I need to ask where were the ratings for the women watching Smallville? Supernatural had ratings for women viewers.

I'm still having problems with Direct TV and the CW channel. The guide for the CW is showing another channel. I can still view the CW but I don't know when and what is showing. Another problem is my DVR won't record the CW channel. I had to use other methods to record SV on Thursday. I'm in mid-Michigan, so are there Neilson rating boxes on TVs in my area? If there are, they might not pick up the CW. Also different from last year, there are areas that are not offering the CW anymore. I'm not sure why that is.

[badwolf]

Their ending Smallville mid season? I'm so confused.

[Dannyblue1]

Their ending Smallville mid season? I'm so confused.

From the way I understand it, they are taking SV off about halfway through its season and replacing it with Reaper for a while. However, SV will be back to complete it's full, 22 episode season.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I don't know a lot about ratings so I need to ask where were the ratings for the women watching Smallville? Supernatural had ratings for women viewers.

The demos must not have been significant enough for the CW to brag about them. I'm actually surprised that SN does so well with women and SV with men. I figured it would be the other way around.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Their ending Smallville mid season? I'm so confused.

Yeah, Smallville will have a 13 week break, so Reaper can take over and premiere all of there second season, and Smallville will return after the airings.

[unfocused]

Exactly how long will Smallville be on hiatus while Reaper airs?

[Dannyblue1]

Exactly how long will Smallville be on hiatus while Reaper airs?

About 3 months.

[unfocused]

Ah. Thanks.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Yeah, I think Smallville returns March, and the season may end in June, with Season Nine (if there is one, which I hope there is) will have to start in October I think, but I could be wrong, just my guess.

[CallMeClark]

Kind of stinks that 90210's premiere beat Smallville but oh well.

I think "Legion" will add to a big numbers jump.

[KryptonSite]

I highly doubt the "13 week break" thing is still happening. SV repeats often do better than new episodes of other stuff. Actually, I'm 95% sure it's NOT happening.

I know people can say "But Dawn O. said this" but the woman lies. She also said Aquaman was a contender for midseason replacement, which it never was.

[Dannyblue1]

I highly doubt the "13 week break" thing is still happening. SV repeats often do better than new episodes of other stuff. Actually, I'm 95% sure it's NOT happening.

I don't see why it wouldn't happen. Like you said, it's not like they are yanking new episodes of SV off the air. They're replacing SV repeats with new episodes of Reaper, which will probably do at least slightly better, overall, than SV repeats do.

Plus they ordered 13 eps for Reaper, they paid for them, they gotta put them somewhere. And Reaperdoesn't really pair well with the other shows on the network.

And, finally, I think the CW want to see how well a Reaper/Supernatural pairing would do if this does turn out to SV's last season.

Not that it would surprise me if they changed their minds. I just haven't seen any indication they will.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I think the 13 week hiatus will happen.

[KryptonSite]

I don't see why it wouldn't happen. Like you said, it's not like they are yanking new episodes of SV off the air. They're replacing SV repeats with new episodes of Reaper, which will probably do at least slightly better, overall, than SV repeats do.

Plus they ordered 13 eps for Reaper, they paid for them, they gotta put them somewhere. And Reaperdoesn't really pair well with the other shows on the network.

And, finally, I think the CW want to see how well a Reaper/Supernatural pairing would do if this does turn out to SV's last season.

Not that it would surprise me if they changed their minds. I just haven't seen any indication they will.

I think The CW will have other holes to fill - like Tuesdays at 9 - first. There's no way Privileged repeats will do better than Smallville's.

That, and I'm pretty sure SV WILL be back with more episodes in January - which would ruin the whole "13 weeks off" plan.

[DestinyAw8s]

I think The CW will have other holes to fill - like Tuesdays at 9 - first. There's no way Privileged repeats will do better than Smallville's.

That, and I'm pretty sure SV WILL be back with more episodes in January - which would ruin the whole "13 weeks off" plan.
I'm happy to see this, Craig! And I tend to believe that you know what you're talking about. 13 weeks is just way too long to keep us viewers waiting. IMO

[ClarkyBoy14]

I think Craig is right. Fourteen weeks between #10 and 11 would kill any momentum. Plus, like he said, Privileged will likely have to be replaced, something will have to go between the ANTM and Stylista cycles, and Friday at 9 is currently skedded as a reality encore. So a lot of holes...

[6-Super-Man -5]

I think The CW will have other holes to fill - like Tuesdays at 9 - first. There's no way Privileged repeats will do better than Smallville's.

That, and I'm pretty sure SV WILL be back with more episodes in January - which would ruin the whole "13 weeks off" plan.

I guess I agree with you, cause what you said does sound like its going to happen.

[Smallville6]

I highly doubt the "13 week break" thing is still happening. SV repeats often do better than new episodes of other stuff. Actually, I'm 95% sure it's NOT happening.

I know people can say "But Dawn O. said this" but the woman lies. She also said Aquaman was a contender for midseason replacement, which it never was.

Oh thank god, I was so angry when I heard they might be doing this!
I need my Smallville fix every week, even if they are repeates!
Thanks for the update Craig!

[unfocused]

Thanks Craig. I can breathe now. I really was afraid of going three months without Smallville in the middle of the season.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I would go Bizarro if they ever went three months without Smallville in the middle of the season!

[psyko69]

Thats almost as long as we went without in the summer.

The wait for Odyssey was bad enough.

The wait for Legion would be brutal.

[unfocused]

I agree. I've always hated having two hiatuses per season. Combining them would be far worse.

[Jaderoyale]

Ratings aren't that bad.
Considering there wasn't as much marketing as the other CW shows, i think our SV did rather nicely :p

[joesmallville]

I thought some might find this interesting

Here are the Smallville "Odyssey" ratings for the top 20 TV Markets

1. Washington D.C. (3.9 rating)
2. Detroit (3.7 rating)
2. Dallas (3.7 rating)
4. New York (3.6 rating)
5. Orlando (3.3)
6. Miami (3.2)
6. Atlanta (3.2)
8. Los Angeles (3.0)
8. Chicago (3.0) Aired at 10:30 pm
10. Boston (2.7)
11. Cleveland (2.6)
12. Philadelphia (2.3)
13. Denver (2.1)
14. Sacramento (1.9)
15. Phoenix (1.8)
15. Tampa Bay (1.8)
17. Seattle (1.7)
17. San Francisco/Oakland (1.7)
19. Minneapolis (1.5)

Houston rating was not available

[unfocused]

I can understand why Houston wasn't available. Many of us still had our lights out. I was fortunate enough to get them back a few days before the premier.

But judging how well Dallas did, we may have had a high rating here.

Thanks for the list.

[skylar]

I'm glad that SV did well without any promotion from the CW.

----- Added 4 Minutes later -----

I thought some might find this interesting

Here are the Smallville "Odyssey" ratings for the top 20 TV Markets

1. Washington D.C. (3.9 rating)
2. Detroit (3.7 rating)
2. Dallas (3.7 rating)
4. New York (3.6 rating)
5. Orlando (3.3)
6. Miami (3.2)
6. Atlanta (3.2)
8. Los Angeles (3.0)
8. Chicago (3.0) Aired at 10:30 pm
10. Boston (2.7)
11. Cleveland (2.6)
12. Philadelphia (2.3)
13. Denver (2.1)
14. Sacramento (1.9)
15. Phoenix (1.8)
15. Tampa Bay (1.8)
17. Seattle (1.7)
17. San Francisco/Oakland (1.7)
19. Minneapolis (1.5)

Houston rating was not available

Washington D.C. was in #1 glad to know I was part of the ratings being good in D.C.

[Tacitus]

The distribution of the ratings between different states seems very uneven to me. Is it always like this?

[CallMeClark]

I was unaware of Reaper replacing Smallville for a while. :( This stinks!

[boywithbluehanger]

I'm glad that SV did well without any promotion from the CW.

----- Added 4 Minutes later -----



Washington D.C. was in #1 glad to know I was part of the ratings being good in D.C.


Amen sister, no doubt we do our part! :D
...of course it does help that the CW Washington (now dc50) covers DC, parts of MD, and VA

[Dor el]

I hope DO doesn't use the fact the SV did as well as it did without the promotion gives her an excuse to promote SV and SN even less. If that's even possible. :\

I think this season holds a great deal of potential and with at least some promotion, DO might be able to pull in great (by CW standards) ratings. Why oh why would she not want to do this? Help me understand how a moron thinks. Or do they?

SV has been one of the main reasons CW has even been on the map. The ratings map.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I wonder if we'll see an increase or decrease next week. There's going to be a lot more competition, but sometimes SV does better with a bit more original programming in the mix. Hopefully, there won't be more pre-emptions, and hopefully more people will get their power and cable back on. There could be some good word of mouth, and the Sunday evening encore could give the new season some exposure. We also get to see the new character Davis Bloome/Doomsday, DC character Plastique, and Clark's first day at the DP.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I wonder if we'll see an increase or decrease next week. There's going to be a lot more competition, but sometimes SV does better with a bit more original programming in the mix. Hopefully, there won't be more pre-emptions, and hopefully more people will get their power and cable back on. We also get to see the new character Davis Bloome/Doomsday, DC character Plastique, and Clark's first day at the DP.

Yeah, a lot of big thgs are happening in next week`s episode, and it`ll be interesting to see if the ratings decreases or increase, but I think they`ll increase.

[Mari2Anne]

According to my "directv" scheduling, "Odyssey" will be repeated on Sunday (9/21) afternoon (2pm West Coast time). I saw it mentioned on the tvguide website also. I know very little about ratings, but does a repeat get rated also?

[Tatiana]

3-3.5 tops. Not alot of cooler buzz.



Well looks like we did a lot better than that

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

I hope DO doesn't use the fact the SV did as well as it did without the promotion gives her an excuse to promote SV and SN even less. If that's even possible. :\

I think this season holds a great deal of potential and with at least some promotion, DO might be able to pull in great (by CW standards) ratings. Why oh why would she not want to do this? Help me understand how a moron thinks. Or do they?

SV has been one of the main reasons CW has even been on the map. The ratings map.


Is the CW still using Lana and Lex to promote Smallville on their website? they need to change that and put new pictures or something

[kiariclois]

I dunno if ya have this but, here's the press release for international viewer. Thanks to Gaby

http://i35.tinypic.com/js0bqf.jpg

[Tatiana]

I dunno if ya have this but, here's the press release for international viewer. Thanks to Gaby

http://i35.tinypic.com/js0bqf.jpg


Wow awesome haha and I loved how it says it outperformed 90210 GREATTT

[unfocused]

Wow, thank you so much for that, kiariclois!

[6-Super-Man -5]

I dunno if ya have this but, here's the press release for international viewer. Thanks to Gaby

http://i35.tinypic.com/js0bqf.jpg

Very interesting, thanks a lot Kiki.
Looks like Smallville is still strong.

[kiariclois]

:lol: You're welcome. But ya all should be aware that the #1 rank is mainly of the Men viewers. :lol: I reckon Men do like this kinda show. ;)

[unfocused]

With actresses like Kristen, Erica, Allison, Laura and Annette... hells yeah.

[minerva73]

Is the CW still using Lana and Lex to promote Smallville on their website? they need to change that and put new pictures or something

No, they switched to Clark, Lois, and Oliver. :) Oliver and Lois are on the right hand side and Clark is standing by himself on the left. They changed it a few days before the premiere.

[6-Super-Man -5]

No, they switched to Clark, Lois, and Oliver. :) Oliver and Lois are on the right hand side and Clark is standing by himself on the left. They changed it a few days before the premiere.

Yeah, but the background is plain black... :(
They should have added a picture behind them.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I dunno if ya have this but, here's the press release for international viewer. Thanks to Gaby

http://i35.tinypic.com/js0bqf.jpg

Nice. :) I hope TGS continues to do well.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Nice. :) I hope TGS continues to do well.

I hope so too. :)

[unex||den||adel]

lois clark n oliver..? where's chloe..? she's the main character this season...

[psyko69]

lois clark n oliver..? where's chloe..? she's the main character this season...

She got top billing because it was the only way to bring her back.

Personally, she's at the point where she should be a "with, and, as" actor.

Clark is the main character of the show, Lois is his love interest and the focus of the season. Ollie contrasts Clark as a hero.

Those three characters and their storylines are deeply intertwined with Clark.

Chloe gets Isis, Davis and the Chimmy ship. She gets some well deserved storylines independant of Clark, but Lois and Ollie are the characters most pivotal to Clark's storyline and future development this season.

[Estro-gen X]

lois clark n oliver..? where's chloe..? she's the main character this season...

I thought Clark was the main character this season. Like last season. And the season before. ;)

[Dor el]

Silly you. :D

[doodie8808]

I Have To Say That Sv And Sn Did Really Good And Both Are Great Shows.sn Deserved The Jump In Watchers.sv Was Also Good And I Thought The Ratings Were Great Considering That After The Season Premiere Last Year The Ratins Went Down Worst Than That To Almost 3 Mil An Episode. But The Last Half Of The Season Went Bac Up To 3.6 And Now The Premiere Here Is 4.3 That Is Awesome And Sv Is On The Rise Again. They Came In At #7 Of All Shows Thursdat Night So I Am Very Happy. I Miss Lex But Lana Hell No! When She Was Not On For Those 4 Episodes Thats When The Ratings Went Up Again.

[eas]

Mostly everyone who's a true fan of the mythos has been gone from the series for awhile now, with all the dragging that has been done with Clark's character, it's about four seasons too late to make things right. And those who have stuck around with Smallville for what it was, for as long as it's been around who are the majority of the viewership, are now being alienated for a fandom that left a long time ago.

C'mon now... who is a "true fan of the mythos"?? I've been watching since the Pilot. Do I not count?

This doesn't say anything new, but TVGuide also commented on how great Supernatural was doing. They, however, didn't break down "SV"'s numbers to make them seem like a good thing. ;)

8 pm/ET
Smallville's season opener delivered 4.38 million total viewers, a 14 percent drop from last year's premiere. Fox's Hole in the Wall, averaging 4.72 mil across two episodes, dipped 12 percent week-to-week.

9 pm
Supernatural's numbers were touched by an angel, as the season premiere drew 3.96 mil — a 33 percent surge over the previous opener and the series' best CW performance ever.

[diinIN]

I must say that I am kinda glad that the ratings are down and not because I'm not a real fan of SV it's because I'm not a fan of this new version of 'Lois and Clark' show which they insist on calling SV even though the real SV died in 'Arctic'.
(and no the show isn't in the same shape or form I came to love=>young adventurous Clark, Clana love, Clex relationship and Chloe friendship)


Would you truly expect a show to continue on the same path over 8 years? A series of this duration has to go through changes, some necessary because of casting changes, some intentional to add interest. No one wants to see the same ol', same ol' for eight years.

As much as I sincerely regret that Rosenbaum is gone, and keep wishing he would drop in for a guest appearance, I do think SV has a lot of potential for season 8. Clark has left the farm, he's taking on his destiny, realizing he's going to have to live a double identity, and is working at the Planet across from his future wife. Now all he needs to do is fly!

[clana4everfan2]

Too bad MR and KK are basically gone. The new version of Lois & Clark isn't all that..seen that already and in the movies. I do like Oliver /GA and the fact the writers telling his back story to contrast with Clark's story arc. Heros is more exciting and at least the characters storylines are intertwined.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Here's how SV ranked in viewership on the CW for the week of 9/15-21. All numbers are final ratings.

1. Smallville (SP): 4.34 million
2. America's Next Top Model: 4.26
3. Smackdown: 4.08
4. Supernatural (SP): 3.96
5. Gossip Girl: 3.73
6. One Tree Hill: 3.37
7. 90210: 3.29
8. Priviliged: 2.43
9. 90210 (R): 1.92
10. ANTM (R): 1.55
11. OTH (R): 1.18
12. Priviliged (R): 1.1

[jimmyolsenblues]

clarky makes a good point, smallville is the most viewed show on the CW

[ClarkyBoy14]

Too bad MR and KK are basically gone. The new version of Lois & Clark isn't all that..seen that already and in the movies.

I happen to think it's all that. :) It's much better than the same Clana for seven years.

Heros is more exciting and at least the characters storylines are intertwined.

IMO, it's become kind of boring. Which is unfortunate, because I use to really like it. :(

[WalkinDude]

Thanks for posting that, Clarky. I'm glad Smallville is still the best show on the CW, as those numbers clearly show. They should definitely go for a 9th season if the numbers continue to be like that, and if this season is good.

Rock on Smallville!

[SparkleforSmallville]

FINAL RATINGS FOR ODYSSEY

CW Smallville (SP) 4,340,000 1.8/6 1.9/5
CW Supernatural (SP) 3,960,000 1.7/5 1.7/4


Small Drop in Final Ratings.
However, right now Smallville is still the CW's top rated show this week (Only Friday Night Smackdown can beat it tonight).

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/47810812/m/14810947?r=835102161#835102161


This is what they have for the Live + 7 for Odyssey. Their live numbers? :confused:

Well, here's the link: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/06/house-has-most-dvr-viewers-90210-has-greatest-dvr-increase/5759

12th SMALLVILLE...... CW....... Live+7=4,804........ Live=3,916....... 888........ 22.7%

These are SpN live #s I think? After waiting all this time for these ratings:mad:
I am glad it went up to 4.8mil, just wondering how accurate it is!

[6-Super-Man -5]

Thanks for posting that, Clarky. I'm glad Smallville is still the best show on the CW, as those numbers clearly show. They should definitely go for a 9th season if the numbers continue to be like that, and if this season is good.

Rock on Smallville!

So agreed!

[SparkleforSmallville]

The DVR'd ratings came out Today, so we should be getting them each week from now on! Yay!

[ClarkyBoy14]

That Live # is probably right. The 4.34 we had was Live plus same day DVR viewership.

Thanks for posting them! :)

[SparkleforSmallville]

Oh OK, thanks for clearing that up! Odyssey stayed CW's top. :)

Smallville ~ 4.8mil.
ANTM ~ 4.7