1st episode of Knight Rider "Knight in Shining Armor" now online.

[PHOENIXZERO]

Actually it's been online for several hours but no one has made a post here yet.:lol:

You can see it online from these locations if you live in the US.

http://www.nbc.com/Knight_Rider/video/episodes/
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EXVQQO

Currently up at the above locations, should be up at some point today at the three below.

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/search?entity=tvSeason&media=all&submit=seeAllLockups&term=knight+rider

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1236283/

http://www.hulu.com/knight-rider


I won't post spoilers here but after watching it twice I think it's a big improvement over the TV movie, lots of action. Oh and I should give some credit to Neil over at KRO for the links since I just copied and pasted them from what he has up, I knew most of them but the iTunes one I certainly wouldn't since I don't use it.

[KryptonSite]

Once I get my sound working on my computer again I'll post the links and set up an episode discussion. Hopefully people will be posting!

----- Added 16 Minutes later -----

"Your death will not do anything to help Sarah." I'm loving it already!

I've now got the premiere embedded on KITTSite (http://www.kittsite.com) if anyone wants to see it over there.

[krpto]

Wow pickup truck kitt I'm not sure but I don't remember pickup kitt being in the original Knight Rider though I would love it if they at least let william Daniels come back with David H to voice original kitt and team up with the new micheal knight for a final apperance If Ford wants Kitt 1 destroyed because he's not a ford product at least let him die for a reason perhaps dying protecting both Mikes and the new Kitt as apposed to just being taken apart because hes old.

[KryptonSite]

I'd have to say though I liked Val Kilmer a lot better in this than I did in the pilot. He had some good banter with Michael especially.

I also thought both Justin and Deanna were great, as was Bruce Davison. Honestly... the other characters seemed extraneous, though I do like the hints that someone is evil. But still, the comic relief stuff with the other characters seemed a bit forced, even though I did chuckle at least once.

I have been wrong before, though - I thought Pete and Chloe were extraneous in my original review of the Smallville pilot. What little I knew...

[krpto]

well pete did disapear for years and chloe has still yet to be written into the comics so you weren't that wrong.

[SuperClerk]

I really enjoyed this first episode. It started with action and didn't really let up. Sure there were some things left hanging but it adds to the mythology that they are trying to set up with the show.
I liked the transforming KITT but I hope that it's not just a show of him changing into different things all the time. I really like the HUD as well but miss the gullwing steering wheel.
I'm hooked.

[jym-el]

=== TURBO BOOST ===

gotta love that...

[Cromartiefan]

That was fantastic. sets up everything really nicely and Val is still great as KITT (wonder how they got him to do it? I've never heard of Val doing a TV series before). I really can't wait for the next episode.

[moviefan2k4]

I just saw the online version of this episode, and it gets a 8/10 in my book. I liked it better than the TV movie, although one thing still bugs me: the sexual crap. I don't like the idea of the new series sexing everything up just because they can. From a story perspective, what was the actual point of Mike and Sarah stripping in the car? They could've come up with a much better way to solve the whole "burning KITT" situation; it seems as though that moment was used as an excuse to up the "sex factor", and little else. If NBC really wants to hit big with the new show, they need to stop all the nonsense and focus on the characters and the story...not seeing how quick Justin & Deanna can get their clothes off!

[PHOENIXZERO]

What other method would you use to trying to slow your body temp from rising to the point of boiling in a small space that's rapidly rising in temperature? It's not as if they focused in multiple cuts on her taking off her dress while it was set to "sexy" music. Do you complain this much about the things that go one in Smallville? Besides, the original Knight Rider showed just as much skin over 20 years ago and for less reason. If the first thing you think of is "sex" then I think it's more of a problem on your end.

Even though I agree with the pointless scene with Carrie in the pilot with her "guest", up until the pilot aired I never realized how many people who watched Knight Rider were so uptight.

[moviefan2k4]

What other method would you use to trying to slow your body temp from rising to the point of boiling in a small space that's rapidly rising in temperature?Find a way for KITT to quickly put the fire out; the way that scene played out made it seem like they deliberately "stretched" the moment to up the sex factor.

It's not as if they focused in multiple cuts on her taking off her dress while it was set to "sexy" music. Do you complain this much about the things that go one in Smallville?I've never been happy with the various sexual crap that goes on with "Smallville", and I was especially p!$$ed off when they had Clark sleep with Lana. I mean, if Superman is supposed to be this "model of morality" for people to look up to, how does that fit with him making such a colossal (and unfortunately common) mistake? I'm thankful that element of the story didn't become a regular focus, and the "super-sex" in Wrath was 100% inappropriate, IMO.

Besides, the original Knight Rider showed just as much skin over 20 years ago and for less reason.When? I've probably seen nearly every episode (don't have all the DVDs yet) and I don't recall anything like that in the original show. There was always tension with michael and Bonnie, and we always knew Michael was a "player", but to the best of my knowledge it was never blatantly shown.

[PHOENIXZERO]

Well thanks for clearing that up and yeah, the "super sex" was very stupid and 99.999999% of Clark's "relationship" with Lana sucked. He apparently only wanted to be mortal so he could get some.. <_<

Anyway, Knight Rider might not have had Bonnie or April stripping down to their bra and panties or anything like that. But there was plenty of "eye candy" with either the babe/MILF of the week or just some random girls in skimpy outfits that I'm sure even back then were a bit too revealing for the time slot now. Now, they would probably be considered very tame I'm sure, especially the auditioning "dancers" in the seedy club from the season three two part premiere, Knight of the Drones. But the show still had its share of women in bikinis and the occasional revealing dress.

Michael was a regular old manslut though yeah, they really didn't show much, just a lot of references to his basically having a "lady friend" or two in every other city. Aside from that, one of the reasons why Patricia McPherson was replaced with Rebecca Holden in season two was that she apparently wasn't "sexy enough" so they brought in Holden to play April.

The one thing I could have done without in the first episode was that girl he previously knew that flashed him the tattoo. They could have just put it on her arm, I'm not complaining over the boobage but that just has to be one of the worst places an attractive woman could put one. Then again I'm not a fan of tattoos in the first place.

Part of that KITT on fire scene was also to give Mike more reason to not want Sarah out there in danger. Obviously they could have probably had KITT avoid the missile but it was also to show that KITT was learning how to defend against the impact and really what other way would they have diffused the fire? Driving at a extremely high speed wasn't doing it and sure they could have maybe had KITT drive into some water but that wouldn't have the same effect of nearly killing Mike and Sarah. I did think the scene went on a bit too long and I was expecting/hoping KITT was going to crash through the doors before they could be opened. Either way, what she was wearing wasn't anything more than what one would see at the beach, maybe less than. It wasn't like she was wearing a push-up bra and a thong.

[jym-el]

one of the reasons why Patricia McPherson was replaced with Rebecca Holden in season two was that she apparently wasn't "sexy enough" so they brought in Holden to play April

don't know about that, but i find Bonnie sexier and prettier than April (each person is entitled to his/her own opinion), plus, the chemistry between Bonnie and Michael was great. maybe, that's why they brought her back for season 3 & 4.

----- Added 6 Minutes later -----

Find a way for KITT to quickly put the fire out; the way that scene played out made it seem like they deliberately "stretched" the moment to up the sex factor.


yeah, like if KITT can transform into a pick-up, couldn't he use turbo boost to jump over obstacles then transform into a submarine before diving into a river or lake?

[PHOENIXZERO]

You missed the part then where he said he couldn't "shed" his skin which would probably also prevent transforming since those parts would still be on fire as it bonded to the car. Plus most of his power was being directed to preventing the fire from heating up the interior but it wasn't working as well as he hoped, not to mention keeping the fire from burning its way in. Then there was the transferring the files which took more power. Unfortunately the new KITT is to early post-crisis Superman as the original was to pre-crisis Superman.

Anyway, yeah that was one reason why Bonnie was replaced with April, a large part of Bonnie returning was due to a fan backlash. There was another thing about McPherson wanting a bigger role or to bring about a romance angle with Bonnie and Michael as well as more pay IIRC. But still, one of the main reasons was because the powers that they wanted someone that could up the "sexy" factor.

Eh, I think back then Patricia McPherson was attractive but Rebbecca Holden was more "hot/sexy" IMO and she did show off more skin than what McPherson did, which really isn't saying much since Bonnie was in a jumpsuit (which she looked great in) much of the time.

[jym-el]

KITT could have told mike and sarah to hold their breaths while he dives into a lake or river to douse the flame, then he would resurface and drive on the water toward dry land and drain the water that seeped into the cockpit (if KITT is not air-tight).

the original K.I.2000 was able to "walk" on water.

or, KITT could have just stopped and let both mike and sarah off while he finds a way to extinguish the flames.

i guess, the original K.I.2000 was smarter to always eject michael before any tragedy/accident is about to occur.

[PHOENIXZERO]

Uhh, the missile was homed in on Mike and he mentioned getting out with KITT replying that it wasn't a good idea. KITT only "walked" on water in one episode and it was scrapped at the end of that episode. Letting them out would have resulted in their getting either blown up or instantly roasted or at least severely burned and there would have been no way to eject since the car has a hard top roof. Driving in water would have been too easy and the AI is still "young", inexperienced and learning.

[Ilovebeinglost]

I loved the old Knight Rider episodes I hope this one is as good or better. I personally don't think this guy is as hot as David was. His pants aren't tight ;)

[jym-el]

what i mean was after the missle hit KITT, he should have let mike and sarah out of the car (through the door). if they got scorched... all they had to do was... stop... drop... roll... (everyone is taught that in kindergarten)

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just remembered... what every happened to micro jam?

[adromidon]

what i mean was after the missle hit KITT, he should have let mike and sarah out of the car (through the door). if they got scorched... all they had to do was... stop... drop... roll... (everyone is taught that in kindergarten)

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just remembered... what every happened to micro jam?
It was a modified form of Neapaum which can not be put out by rolling if they opened the door it would have spread to them burning them until it went out

[krpto]

It was a modified form of Neapaum which can not be put out by rolling if they opened the door it would have spread to them burning them until it went out

Exactly I too agree that tv shows/networks tend to force in sexual scenes just because they can but beleave me with the story as is was that scene could have been alot worse (esepcially on cable where Sarah would have at least taken her top off too and Mike would have probably ended up removing his boxers to "cool off". I would have been one thing if sarah and mike said well since were dying anyways lets take our clothes off and have some fun before we die wich didn't happen. They are both adults getting down to their underwear while afraid of burning to death is hardly the wrong thing to do.

[adromidon]

what do u guys think of the shady way that FBI agent was acting toward then end when Charles Gramon said that when Mike peaced together the truth he was coming for him

[HotStudsSuccess]

Well, I have to say this I don't want to be in his shoes when Mike comes after him.

[jym-el]

do they have plans of changing mike traceur's face?

how can he effectively go around with the name of michael knight, and not being recognized by people who knew the real him?

when michael long became michael knight, they had to redo his face (plastic surgery) to make him look like a different person.

[adromidon]

true they infact had made him look like the evil son that the founder of knight industries had

[GuardianAngel]

Hmmm... I watched the episode but I'm very uncertain as to the whole transformation thing. There have been big changes (NOT improvements) from the pilot, but KITT transforming this way reminds me too much of "Transformers" and the CGI used for the first transformation was bad. I have my doubts on the guy called to supervise the series and who was involved in "The Fast and the Furious". You can see that some shots are very similar to the ones on those movies and they definitely are not appropriate for Knight Rider, IMHO.

I won't say more, I have to watch more episodes and see a proper turbo boost (meaning with KITT moving) but the impression I have right now is that:

New Knight Rider (excluding the Pilot) = The Fast and the Furious + Transformers + James Bond + Batman
Original Knight Rider: none of the above.

[SparkleforSmallville]

New Knight Rider (excluding the Pilot) = The Fast and the Furious + Transformers + James Bond + Batman
Original Knight Rider: none of the above.

That sounds like a good combination! Especially the Batman part!:)

[GuardianAngel]

Batman is great, but the Kittcave? Come on! On the bright side, I appreciated how they decided to use the sound of KITT's scanner from the original series. I didn't like the one in the pilot.

[Cromartie]

I personally dislike this new Knight Rider concept. The Knight Rider I remember didn't include a transforming KITT. Also thiss whole idea of a Jason Bourne/super spy thing they have going on with Mike, it's just unoriginal. Another problem I have is the CG stuff, it could've been alot sharper, for example, when KITT transformed into Attack mode for the first time, you could tell it was CGI because the black color turned a bit cloudy and gray. and when driving, you could tell they were'nt really moving be cause the background looked animated. One more thing, they shouldn't have used Washington D.C. as a location because when they went into the "Metro" station, you knew that it really wasn't a D.C. metro. They would've been better off just leaving the show dead. I'll keep watching to see if it will get any better.

[Antithesis]

Batman is great, but the Kittcave? Come on! On the bright side, I appreciated how they decided to use the sound of KITT's scanner from the original series. I didn't like the one in the pilot.

That was nice. On the "KITTcave" as you call it. I got more of a Viper vibe from that than Batman, but I can see the simularities.

[jym-el]

i park in the basement of our building... and after having read this thread, i call my parking space now the "KITTCAVE"... don't sue me... hahahahaha