Lex's Farewell!!!

[superspider02]

Hey guys i decided to make this thread so we can talk and discuse how lex's farewell episode went. So go ahead and post on if you think it was good or bad once the episode airs for us U.S viewers.

[Ginx]

I'm sad that he's going ... but I'll vote after I watch it.

They said he might do guest experiences though.....

[jimmyolsenblues]

moving this to spoilers....

[superspider02]

why did you move it to spoilers i had it for the episode thread for tonight's finale for people to talk about if they liked or disliked how lex left the show.

[Mar-El]

Well,

It leaves things open-ended, which is good because it allows for possible returns, so I didn't hate it...but I wish it went differently.

I was staring at the TV screen and thinking to myself, "That's the best the writers could come up with?" Again, not necessarily bad, but it could have been better if done differently. I felt some of the theories on this board as to how Lex would leave the show were better than what actually happened.

[KAL-EL_3]

but whose to say that was the "good bye".
they definately (almost certainly) filmed other clips for the opener next season with lex in them... however we'll see if the clips even make up for it

[Mar-El]

they definately (almost certainly) filmed other clips for the opener next season with lex in them... however we'll see if the clips even make up for it

I hope you're right because that would make me feel a lot better about how it ended!

[KAL-EL_3]

seriously how can u even have a "good bye" for such an AMAZING character tho. they could have him do almost anything and it would still seem like a hurtin' ending for lex's character

[Alexander III]

Fairwell? Lex will live another day and soon he'll control the world, muuahhhaaa...ha.

[Lexgirl33]

*cries*

[Alexander III]

I'm crying w/ u too *sob*

[LexLuv180]

It didn't piss me off with a memory swipe, thank God,a nd I was happy to see emotion between the two. However, they decide to save 7 years of build up adn play it off in 5 minutes? Why did they rush what was originally one of the main aspects of this series? And since Michael is not returning as Lex, how could they possible explain this ending? They should have come up with something better. What is the stone in the fortress supposed to do anyway? Just destroy it, and destroy Clark? Or destroy it, and leave Clark without it? What? How is this "controlling" the traveler? I also wanted to see Lex find out Kara had been Brainiac. Nothing is really that resolved, after 7 years *sigh*

[jimmyolsenblues]

i will miss michael very much , he is a great lex maybe even better than Gene Hackman.

[Tebow15]

Wonder how they will write themselves out of this ending and they better not have Lex "back" as a controlled Clark or the entire show will have been wasted.

[Minela]

You know what I found out today at work? I can't believe it.

I work with this guy Dave Rosenbaum, and yes I knew his last name but I never really thought anything of it until somebody mentioned to me while I was going on and on about Smallville, that he is related to Michael. I asked him and he said he was his uncle. His father's brother. I was flabbergasted. I can't believe I never knew.

[amberdawn]

I'm gonna miss him so much :(

[DreadShamus]

I'm sad that he's going ... but I'll vote after I watch it.

They said he might do guest experiences though.....

He has to. If he isn't in the season premier I'm gonna be seriously pissed.

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

You know what I found out today at work? I can't believe it.

I work with this guy Dave Rosenbaum, and yes I knew his last name but I never really thought anything of it until somebody mentioned to me while I was going on and on about Smallville, that he is related to Michael. I asked him and he said he was his uncle.


That is so damn cool....you are so lucky!:D Well anyways Lex is fair well was horrible. This is supposed to be the grand exit for MR...It couldn't of been so much better. come on
guys the dialog was so week...oh well :\ Miss you MR!

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Nothing is really that resolved, after 7 years *sigh*

Yeah...i feel the same...I feel so cheated what can we do...but *sigh*

[Mar-El]

He has to. If he isn't in the season premier I'm gonna be seriously pissed.

Unless they filmed scenes they're keeping for next year's premiere, MR made it pretty clear in his letter and subsequent interviews that he is not open to making any guest appearances.

Granted, he could change his mind and I hope he does so.

[smallvillefreak24]

there is no way he can't be in the premier-if he's not the show is a sham

[BIGBLUE10789]

there has to be more closure to his exit. It was ok at best.

[J_woman_power]

I am so disappointed with Lex's exit. I agree, 5 minutes was WAY TOO SHORT to end the struggle between Clark and Lex..... what even happened? I wish Michael would be in the season premiere

[AndiGirl]

I wish we could have had more of a scene. I mean...there seemed to be sooooo many filler moments. Then we get to this monumental moment...and it's a whopping 2 minutes long?

I dont think Michael/Lex got the mind blowing exit he deserves. It was good...dont get me wrong, but it seemed rushed...and it was the one scene I was waiting for. It was a bit of a let down.

[dimeo782002]

It didn't piss me off with a memory swipe, thank God,a nd I was happy to see emotion between the two. However, they decide to save 7 years of build up adn play it off in 5 minutes? Why did they rush what was originally one of the main aspects of this series? And since Michael is not returning as Lex, how could they possible explain this ending? They should have come up with something better. What is the stone in the fortress supposed to do anyway? Just destroy it, and destroy Clark? Or destroy it, and leave Clark without it? What? How is this "controlling" the traveler? I also wanted to see Lex find out Kara had been Brainiac. Nothing is really that resolved, after 7 years *sigh*

I agree with you and imj very disapointed at this ending! Lex is a great chracter and Mike deserved a better send off im sorry people but this is the worst season finally... except for clois and chlark LOL ! Lana leaving a video is awful to do what she did a dvd video ...* SCREAMING * If i were Clark i would have smashed the dvd player afterwards after all those years a dvd goodbye UGH !
Lex's departure has me way more upset the conversation between Clarka nd Lex leading to the falling of the fos was good but not showing about controlling the traveler and the possibility that they may have not prerecoded material really pisses me off !:mad:

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You know what I found out today at work? I can't believe it.

I work with this guy Dave Rosenbaum, and yes I knew his last name but I never really thought anything of it until somebody mentioned to me while I was going on and on about Smallville, that he is related to Michael. I asked him and he said he was his uncle. His father's brother. I was flabbergasted. I can't believe I never knew.
OMG ! are you serious AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH ! thats awsome !

[jacques]

He said that he was going to be doing guest spots so it's not like that was the end
the end. Get my drift.

[theotherJane]

It was the worst ***** slap to such a great actor and character. It's almost like they ran out of ideas and just said "oh what the hell, let's blow up FOS."

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

It was the worst ***** slap to such a great actor and character. It's almost like they ran out of ideas and just said "oh what the hell, let's blow up FOS."


Yeah...what a waste, I didn't even understand how the hell the FOS blew up...how is this going to control Clark I'm just confused as hell:confused: Help!

[s3dsmv]

bah, if everything doesn't get tied up nicely with lex and the fact that he now knows who superman is before he ever becomes superman, i'm going to be severely disappointed:\

[minerva73]

He said that he was going to be doing guest spots so it's not like that was the end
the end. Get my drift.

When was this? :confused: He said that he wasn't going to shave his head bald for just a few episodes because it would mean that he should have just signed for the whole season (which he didn't want).

I'd like some proof of when he said that he's open to do guest spots in Season 8.

[KEakaCK]

Yeah...what a waste, I didn't even understand how the hell the FOS blew up...how is this going to control Clark I'm just confused as hell:confused: Help!

The FOS didn't blow up. I went back and watched it again just to make sure and it didn't blow up. What happened was it was a reverse to back when the FOS formed. It deformed back if that made any sense. lol
That whole part didn't make sense to me either...I was thinking to myself why the writers would do such a stupid thing. However, after thinking about it for a bit, I realized something. Isn't FOS directly connected with Clark and since he hasn't gone through his training yet and with FOS now gone, Clark won't be able to become Superman. So, that aspect of it made sense.
But, I can't wrap my head around how all this has to do with controlling Clark. Hmmm, lets try to think like the writers and see if we can figure this out. Which could be a dangerous process. :rotfl:

[shadow25]

I think Lex coming back for at least three episodes will be good enough, honestly. The season premiere and two more at the end. or during the last few episodes. But not coming back at all, with this cliffhanger would be weird. It would be left unanswered.

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Blowing up FOS was I think too much, IMO.

[svsabbiesv]

I loved the scene when Lex told Clark he loved him as a brother, I was hoping there would have been a sadder scene....giving us the feeling Lex wouldn't be back, but noooo the whole place had to be destroyed..thanks writers
I'm gonna miss Michael!

[jpoeling]

I was hoping for Lex to interrogate Clark more about how he always used to share everything with him and how he used to look at him for reassurance. I wanted to see Lex get more revelation like him asking Clark how many time he had saved his butt over the years and how it felt to know that he soon would be just another lex puppet. I wanted to see evil mean harsh Lex and not "Alexander" sinining through with sympathy lines, this season was about build the evil dark lex we all know and love. The meeting of the gtwo or the final showdown in SV should have been that of TV legend.

[LexLuv180]

He has to. If he isn't in the season premier I'm gonna be seriously pissed.

He claimed in his fan letter this is his last episode, adn that he won't be in season 8 AT ALL.

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I wish we could have had more of a scene. I mean...there seemed to be sooooo many filler moments. Then we get to this monumental moment...and it's a whopping 2 minutes long?

I dont think Michael/Lex got the mind blowing exit he deserves. It was good...dont get me wrong, but it seemed rushed...and it was the one scene I was waiting for. It was a bit of a let down.

Exactly. I did like the dialogue pretty much, but I can't believe the writers really believed that after seven years of one of the most serious sub-plots of the show, we deserved it wrapped up in that short of time. They could have easily saved some of the other stuff for another episode, freeing up the time slot for more of the Clark/Lex ending. I'm surprised they gave Lex such a let-down exit.

The scene was awesome - don't get me wrong - I just thought it shouldn't have been rushed.

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I loved the scene when Lex told Clark he loved him as a brother, I was hoping there would have been a sadder scene....giving us the feeling Lex wouldn't be back, but noooo the whole place had to be destroyed..thanks writers
I'm gonna miss Michael!

I loved that too, I find it the more realistic. They are not trying to do paint-by-the-numbers characters here. I believe a lot of Lex's hatred for Clark later was his obsession and love for him earlier. I wish we had a reason for his absence next season too explained in this one. If Lex keeps his memory of Clarks' secret, maybe they're going to try to explain the future superman nemesis as him going after Superman and ignoring the Clark side? NO clue how the writers are going to write themselves out of this one.

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I think Lex coming back for at least three episodes will be good enough, honestly. The season premiere and two more at the end. or during the last few episodes. But not coming back at all, with this cliffhanger would be weird. It would be left unanswered.

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Blowing up FOS was I think too much, IMO.

Yes, I blame that on the writers though. They should have wrapped it up better when they found out he wouldn't be back. It was a bit too arrogant of the studio to think they could win him back, when he told them from the start he wasn't going to return. Later he changed his mind to a few episodes when negotiating, but I really think they weren't offering money enough for it to be worth it.

[drkmcc]

The FOS didn't blow up. I went back and watched it again just to make sure and it didn't blow up. What happened was it was a reverse to back when the FOS formed. It deformed back if that made any sense. lol
That whole part didn't make sense to me either...I was thinking to myself why the writers would do such a stupid thing. However, after thinking about it for a bit, I realized something. Isn't FOS directly connected with Clark and since he hasn't gone through his training yet and with FOS now gone, Clark won't be able to become Superman. So, that aspect of it made sense.
But, I can't wrap my head around how all this has to do with controlling Clark. Hmmm, lets try to think like the writers and see if we can figure this out. Which could be a dangerous process. :rotfl:

I think this is a legitimate pov. It really appeared that instead of blowing up, the FOS sunk back into itself. This leads me to believe that the FOS is only around when Clark is able to use it. Ie. because clark can't consult Jor El or get further training while he is being controlled (which I can only assume will happen in the premiere), the fortress need not be there but will reform upon Clark somehow breaking the control (more likely Kara or Chloe). In any event, I'm not so eager to boo on this episode until I've seen s08e01. In other (maybe good) news, this season was 20 episodes long... others have been more, possibly they had the opportunity to film at least 1 episode more of MR scenes; odds being on the fact that he was signed for the season, the season having been planned for a certain number of episodes that perhaps the writers strike prevented. In any event, a season premiere, short lex, would kill the show. But how do you come back from lex knowing clark is the traveler... Another memory erase might kill that too.

[Batman/Superman#1]

I think there will explations of him leaving in the season 8 premiere.

[Vergon6]

I sure hope that they somehow have a scene with Lex in the premiere. Rosenbaum could have filmed something while still on the set, and he just didn't tell us...I hope. How could you explain that a way? Unless it showed a body or stunt double being beamed away in a flash of light somewhere. Like Jor-El transported him to a psychiatric ward somewhere ;)

[iMack]

My favorite Lex of all time, so I was a bit disappointed, but I'm not banking everything on this episode. I still don't believe we've seen the absolute last of him. Hopefully the adjustments made post-strike pushed a scene or two into 8-1, as suggested above.

[mmortal03]

I haven't been watching all of this season, so sorry for the following if I've missed something. I did see the last few episodes where Lex found the orb, so I don't think I've missed anything about its properties. We know it shows Lex the location of the FOS, and that it plays a part in gaining control of the Traveler. We don't know whether or not it directly controls him, though.

What I didn't get was why Clark didn't just speed over to Lex and snatch the orb? It seemed like Clark was reeled over next to the piece of rock he was next to, like the orb was made of kryptonite or something. I couldn't figure that part out.

Furthermore, that scene required way too many ambiguities to work, and they could have done something much more coherent. I figured Clark would have mentioned something to Lex about Braniac impersonating Kara, since Clark knew that Kara had gone after Lex earlier in the episode. That would have been more convincing, to have Lex have to choose between either trusting Clark or trusting Braniac. Lex is usually good at sensing deception, but here he was just fooled way too well, and went right along with what Braniac wanted him to do, without any real second guessing. I just don't see how Lex would take such a drastic action like that against Clark, a person he had known so long. I guess the betrayal of their friendship over the course of the season is finally complete.

[chloegirl]

I am so disappointed with Lex's exit. I agree, 5 minutes was WAY TOO SHORT to end the struggle between Clark and Lex..... what even happened? I wish Michael would be in the season premiere

I agree with u. I just wish Michael change his mind and go back to SV for few more episodes then I would be happy. I miss Lex/Mike already!

[morphs]

I loved it. I'm glad it happened like it did.

[chlo-el]

I wish it was longer and more of an epic fight scene, like in Vessel.

[ginnyfan]

I'm slowly brainwashing myself into believing that MR is returning for guest spots. Honestly if he were returning for Season 8, that episode, just the way it is, ROCKS!

When they found out he wasn't returning they should have focused 75% of the episode on Clark and Lex.

[Minela]

I'm slowly brainwashing myself into believing that MR is returning for guest spots. Honestly if he were returning for Season 8, that episode, just the way it is, ROCKS!

When they found out he wasn't returning they should have focused 75% of the episode on Clark and Lex.

One, he is not coming back. :(

Two, I completely agree, they should have focused at least 65% of the episode on Lex and Clark. The Brainiac thing should have been resolved prior so it didn't overshadow the long awaited Lex and Clark confrontation. Kara should have been a less integral part. I mean... nobody really cares at this point about her character anyway, ( I'm speaking for myself) I mean she was so all over the place all season long that it really doesn't matter where she ended up anyway. The should have left the Clana break-up for next season and they really should have had Lois Lane get her Lex scoop. Talk about a let down... I mean she's been working towards that all season long. :\

[Luv4PhilCollins729]

It totally sucked for me. I would have rather seen the last part of the show with just Clex in the fortress not Jimmy and Chloe then him and Clark in the barn, that was stupid. I agree with everyone that says the last scene was rushed. This finale should’ve been all about Clex and no one else. I don’t care about Kara either and I hope she doesn’t come back next season.

[Elite]

i dont know why Rosenbaum would refuse to continue playing Lex. I doubt he'll do anything major outside Smallville, so he might as well take the character to the end now that the series is drawing to a close.

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

Hey Elite:)I thinkMR is smart he knows that every one is out and he made a calculated move to leave which sadly sucks for us. And I'm sure he will be getting good roles he's an amazing actor.

But getting back to the last scene it was so damn lame. Even the dialogue delivery was rushed and I didn't feel any intensity between TW/MR like in previous confrontations. MR could of acted way better but they rushed the scene. I wanted a show down, not a freaking Cliff hanger! It should have went out with Big Bang between Clark and Lex instead it went sour.:mad:It should have been more like the confrontation they had in Descent especially the one in the mansion that was beautiful;) and of course some Action like in Vessel. "I'm sorry I love you like a brother" coming from Lex after he goes to the darkside was ridiculous. And why wasn't Lex asking more questions? Wasn't he curious? Didn't he want to rehash the old memories, all the times Lex has been saved by Clark. There first meeting with the car crash...They made Lex look like a delusional psychotic idiot, the stupid line "It's by Birth right!" Where did they get that from...Why didn't Clark mention Kara being Braniac! MR/Lex should have got a grand glory exit for all his dedication in seven years but it was just pathetic!:\ What were the writers thinking!

Clark I believe was unable to touch the orb, just like Braniac...but I still don't get it bcs Braniac is a freakin machine and Clark is a kryptonian.The epiosde should have primarily been based on Clark and Lex. The Braniac think should have been resolved earlier.
Did you guys watch Quest look how smoothly the episode went when they didn't have thousands of people here and there. And why in gods name did they waste so much time with Jimmy and Lex I don't give a rats ass, I knew Lex was gonna call the DDS. I'm just hoping they have a good explanation for all this in the premiere.

[Fly by guy]

The most appropriate thing about the last Lex scene was that he had a weapon in his hand. Most season's the writers were content to keep a brandy glass in his hand but this season it seems that Lex had replaced it with a gun. At least in the final shot, Lex had something a little stronger than a handgun.
They should have had a MUCH longer scene between Lex and Clark. What a ghip.

[clana4everfan2]

Not happy with the way it ended for MR's character after 7 years.. and he definitely deserved a better ending for Lex.

[Welling_is_pretty]

Anyone else think, like me "well, it took 7 years but he finally found out Clark's secret." He's been trying since the Bridge incident, after all.
That was nice symmetry. But yeah, overall I wish they had taken a different route.
But disappointing. But at least MR's final scene got to be with Welling. That was a nice touch.

[nenaj]

Smallville is going to be boring without hem

[Sweetie]

I loved it.Lex is so fascinating.Michael did an incredible job portraying that complex character.We witnessed his fight between good and evil throught out the series of course,the dark side won.It was a good farewell and I'm sure we will have news from him in the premiere.

[All about Clark]

With his birthrite comment and such, it left me thinking that Lex was delusional instead of just evil.

Another thing was the scales were tipped, that Clark was asking Lex not to do something, and usually Clark is the one in control and sees it to a good result so to speak. So their last scene would have a different tone as in Lex finally gets to be the victor even though he's not.

I fully expect to see Lex buried beneath a sh!tload of snow and Clark to walk away. Clark at this point would not go out of his way to help Lex anymore IMO.