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Kalista
05-08-2008, 10:16 AM
Can anyone elaborate on the meaning of the Kryptonian symbol that was carved onto Lex's chest?

Twitch
05-08-2008, 10:37 AM
If I remember correctly there were three symbols, they read Traveler, Savior, and Sanctuary. Edward Teague was the one who sent the man after Lex in the beginning to carve those symbols into him. It was a message for Clark telling him to go to the St. Christopher's Cathedral in Montreal. Saint Christopher being the patron saint of travellers.

vezz801
05-08-2008, 02:24 PM
oh. i see.... that clears it up a bit.

Twitch
05-08-2008, 02:57 PM
I'll try to explain it better from what I remember.

When Clark first looked at the writing on Lex's chest he only made out the symbol for Savior and Traveler. He and Chloe then went back to Isis and were analyzing the picture when Clark noticed that there was another symbol embedded in there, which read Sanctuary.

They had already thought that it was some kind of message so then they started to decode it, with some brainstorming they figured that Savior = Saint and Sanctuary = Church (Clark mentioned that there is no Kryptonian symbol for church which is why whoever was trying to send a message used the term sanctuary.) So they looked up the patron saint of travellers and got Saint Christopher, which lead them to the Cathedral in Montreal (which is the only Cathedral dedicated to Saint Christopher on the planet or something.)

I liked this scene because it showed that Clark is very knowledgeable in reading Kryptonian now.

Karafan1
05-08-2008, 03:08 PM
I'll try to explain it better from what I remember.

When Clark first looked at the writing on Lex's chest he only made out the symbol for Savior and Traveler. He and Chloe then went back to Isis and were analyzing the picture when Clark noticed that there was another symbol embedded in there, which read Sanctuary.

They had already thought that it was some kind of message so then they started to decode it, with some brainstorming they figured that Savior = Saint and Sanctuary = Church (Clark mentioned that there is no Kryptonian symbol for church which is why whoever was trying to send a message used the term sanctuary.) So they looked up the patron saint of travellers and got Saint Christopher, which lead them to the Cathedral in Montreal (which is the only Cathedral dedicated to Saint Christopher on the planet or something.)

I liked this scene because it showed that Clark is very knowledgeable in reading Kryptonian now.

It's about time he's very knowledgeable in kryponian..lol

ironman29758
05-08-2008, 05:03 PM
in the first appearance of virgil swann it show he knew kryptonian

RJLCyberPunk
05-08-2008, 08:15 PM
Well I'm saddened that Teague turned out to be nothing more than a crazed psicho bent on worshiping or destroying the traveller, He had even hired goons to do his bidding putting the traveller's identity at risk..

superspider02
05-08-2008, 08:19 PM
Yea the symbols was cool. I was kinda hoping the one that was craved into clark was the Regular S and not the 8 symbol the show used in the past.

krpto
05-08-2008, 08:43 PM
Well I'm saddened that Teague turned out to be nothing more than a crazed psicho bent on worshiping or destroying the traveller, He had even hired goons to do his bidding putting the traveller's identity at risk..

he was in hiding and he said that he didn't know clark was the traveler so I am sure his goons wouldn't know either without clark revealing his powers to them.

RJLCyberPunk
05-09-2008, 05:45 PM
he was in hiding and he said that he didn't know clark was the traveler so I am sure his goons wouldn't know either without clark revealing his powers to them.
Good thing too considering what we saw and the fruitcake he turned out to be!

Thrill_Seeker
05-09-2008, 06:30 PM
Well I'm saddened that Teague turned out to be nothing more than a crazed psicho bent on worshiping or destroying the traveller, He had even hired goons to do his bidding putting the traveller's identity at risk..

yeah he was kinda crazy !! except I dont think he was fully crazy or skitz, hes in arctic so we'll have to see what happens there, maybe he will help clark or something

wmthor
05-09-2008, 06:57 PM
I know that Clark had it before, like in the end of season 2 and beginning of 3. But I don't think I know what it means. This is the symbol carved on Clark's chest. Its like the House of El one but with an eight instead of an S.

Eri-El
05-09-2008, 06:59 PM
So why did Clark ask ET at the chuch why he "Carved his Name" into Lex's chest?

Hassan_89
05-09-2008, 07:15 PM
It's not just "8", it is an 8 sorrounded by a diamond which means S in the kryptonian language.

smallvillelogan
05-09-2008, 07:16 PM
I know that the "8" symbol means "S" in the Kryptonian language. And obviously the Superman "S" logo is the House of El symbol.
Basically, it's like a calling to his destiny by bringing up his heritage.

dru-zod2501
05-09-2008, 07:16 PM
its associated with strength in Kryptonian

RichardMarx
05-09-2008, 07:57 PM
The symbol "8" also means infinity.

RJLCyberPunk
05-09-2008, 08:47 PM
yeah he was kinda crazy !! except I dont think he was fully crazy or skitz, hes in arctic so we'll have to see what happens there, maybe he will help clark or something
Well given what he has done he is far more of a liability than an asset to Clark and anybody related to him at this point, he reminds a lot of the nutbag that tried to kill Lana so he could fulfill his destiny as a superhero a few episodes back.

Hopefulsuicide
05-09-2008, 08:53 PM
why do members of veritas seem to always be a little bit nuts? then again, you'd have to be a bit nuts to put that much of your life into someone who may never even show up, let alone live up to your expectations

RJLCyberPunk
05-09-2008, 08:57 PM
why do members of veritas seem to always be a little bit nuts? then again, you'd have to be a bit nuts to put that much of your life into someone who may never even show up, let alone live up to your expectations

A bit nuts maybe byt ET broke the wackometter he was Joker level insane as only an archcriminal like the Joker would carve simbols on someone's body to leave another person a clue or a message!

Twitch
05-09-2008, 09:04 PM
So why did Clark ask ET at the chuch why he "Carved his Name" into Lex's chest?

I think Clark was referring to the symbol for Traveler on Lex's chest, since that's what they call him.

Thrill_Seeker
05-09-2008, 09:11 PM
and air, yeah its also the symbol for the house of el and its an "S" in krypto language
again, its means air, cos it was the symbol that was on the air stone, in season 4. the one on lanas back all through season 4 means water or transformation which I didnt really understand.
the writers dont really follow the language, they just put the letter together and make it up, they wouldnt think that any of the crazy fans would actually go and learn the language :D:lol:

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oh yeah, also they took the idea from supermans "s" on his chest and just joined the ends to make it look like an 8 in the middle and dub it a kryptonian letter, among other meanings

Superboy-Prime
05-09-2008, 10:35 PM
isnt the 8 symbol supermans normal symbol which means hope

Eri-El
05-09-2008, 10:51 PM
I think Clark was referring to the symbol for Traveler on Lex's chest, since that's what they call him.


That's what i was thinking.....I was just weird the way Clark said it.:rolleyes:

AlwaysRight
05-09-2008, 10:54 PM
8 is the amount of seasons the show will last

auctionmonster
05-09-2008, 10:58 PM
8 is the amount of seasons the show will last


Yep. Pretty much. They need to rap **** up. I am getting sick and tired of this show dragging on forever

Imzadia
06-01-2008, 01:45 AM
So why did Clark ask ET at the chuch why he "Carved his Name" into Lex's chest?

EXATCLY!:D I've been looking for someone else who noticed this. When Clark first met up with Chloe at the hospital and she showed Clark the picture Jimmy had taken of Lex's 'carved symbol' on his chest, she wanted to know from Clark what it meant. He told her he immediately saw traveler and savior. Yes, that's understandable, and then they went to the ISIS foundation computer room and did more research and Clark noticed another symbol embedded that meant 'sancturary'. :\

Since the symbol on Lex's Chest led Clark to St. Christopher's Church in Montreal, Canada, which was supposed to be the only one on the continent of North America, he hoped to find information of 'great worth', or so I thought. Instead, he found the last remaining member of the 'super-secret' Veritas group somewhat crazed and disquised as a monk who wanted to worship him, no less.:eek: That felt a bit wierd for me. When he told Clark that he'd been expecting him because after the pictograph had been retrieved from the bank vault in Zurich by Lex, he thought he needed to intervene. So, he left him a messege that would help Clark locate him, even when he didn't know 'The Treveler's' true identity. ;) Then Clark asked him, "Why did you carve MY NAME on his chest?" :eek: That stood out for me, because he hadn't told Chloe that the symbol was "His Name". :confused::rolleyes:

'Eri-El', no one else responded to your question about this. We couldn't have been the only ones who noticed this. :confused: Also, I remember in the episode "Blue" or "Lara" (??), when Kara was being tortured with that Kryptonite solution-'memory' fluid, as a 'lab rat' for the government, she had a memory flashback about visiting earth when she followed her Aunt Lara through a Portal. They were at the Kent Farm and discussing Lara's unborn baby and whether or not she'd chosen a 'name' for him. Kara suggested that he be named 'Kal-El' making a reference to whenever he looked at the stars from earth toward Krypton ...or something like that. Is there any background in the comic books that could give some understanding about what this is all about concerning Clark's name? :) I'm really curious. :p

smallvillelogan
06-02-2008, 03:07 PM
Just to let you know, Kara's flashback while in the kryptonite liquid is from the episode 'Lara.' And the symbol that Teague carved into his chest may have just meant "his name" in that it was the symbol of Clark's Kryptonian family- the House of El. This is how I interpreted it.