I am so let down right now...

[REebee52]

Weeks of anticipation... For this. They bring back the sheriff for no reason... They make a show filled with paradoxes and inconsistencies (for instance... At Krypton's end the whole surface was covered in Kryptonite, as seen even here. Notice the green columns?), and yet nobody feels any effects... There's bad writing, way too much political commentary... No building of tension... This was supposed to show why Clark needed to be on earth. Instead we get leveled with this. I've supported the show for a long time, and have stood up for some unpopular episodes, but this one really let me down.

[jimmyolsenblues]

i completely loved this episode, i see no flaws with it whatsoever, clark thought the bullet would not hurt him, tom did great directing, the episode was without flaw

[hookem91]

nuclear holocaust isnt reason enough to show why clark is needed on earth?

[RJLCyberPunk]

Weeks of anticipation... For this. They bring back the sheriff for no reason... They make a show filled with paradoxes and inconsistencies (for instance... At Krypton's end the whole surface was covered in Kryptonite, as seen even here. Notice the green columns?), and yet nobody feels any effects... There's bad writing, way too much political commentary... No building of tension... This was supposed to show why Clark needed to be on earth. Instead we get leveled with this. I've supported the show for a long time, and have stood up for some unpopular episodes, but this one really let me down.

The kryptonite only affects Kryptonians altered by Eath's yellow sun remember? Krypton was orbiting a red giant and Krytonians there had no powers...:rolleyes:

[LoveHurts38]

I loved it**smiles**

[theotherJane]

The only negative feedback that I have regarding this episode is that if felt a little rushed.

[WickedJenn]

The only negative feedback that I have regarding this episode is that if felt a little rushed.

Too many darn commercials :mad:

[RJLCyberPunk]

Too many darn commercials :mad:

Can you say TVO?:p

[theotherJane]

Too many darn commercials :mad:

I know...and if you really think about it. It's only a 38-39 minute episode, after you take into account the commercials and the opening credits.

[AlwaysRight]

The kryptonite only affects Kryptonians altered by Eath's yellow sun remember? Krypton was orbiting a red giant and Krytonians there had no powers...:rolleyes:

to add to that, i believe that something happened to the rock during the explosion to make them radioactive.

[WookieeBoy]

Too many darn commercials :mad:

Yeah, but at least the product placement has been greatly toned down if not completely eradicated.

[curiosity]

i completely loved this episode, i see no flaws with it whatsoever, clark thought the bullet would not hurt him, tom did great directing, the episode was without flaw

I loved it also. I have to agree with you.

[RichardMarx]

to add to that, i believe that something happened to the rock during the explosion to make them radioactive.

Yes, I believe that is correct. The nuclear explosion on Krypton is what made kryptonite harmful to kryptonians. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with either sun.

Weeks of anticipation... For this. They bring back the sheriff for no reason... They make a show filled with paradoxes and inconsistencies (for instance... At Krypton's end the whole surface was covered in Kryptonite, as seen even here. Notice the green columns?), and yet nobody feels any effects... There's bad writing, way too much political commentary... No building of tension... This was supposed to show why Clark needed to be on earth. Instead we get leveled with this. I've supported the show for a long time, and have stood up for some unpopular episodes, but this one really let me down.

So you should feel less let down :) What paradoxes are you referring to?

[minerva73]

The political commentaries had to come in at some point. They had a villain in the story of this episode and it was Lex. Lex was president. The president deals with political issues and without Lex obsessing over Kryptonian powers, he wants to do something to Earth that'll make him known as a villain. All of the comments by Jimmy and Lois about Lex's presidency had to be made in order to get the plot moving or else it would seem as if Clark knew all about Lex's plan without any background.

[vezz801]

is no one amazed that we've kinda come full circle... in a way? i mean... we saw the ship launch off... is no one except thinking hoe freakin cool it was to see Krypton in all of its greatness? We got to see the Ship this episode.... we got to see nancy Adams... i saw no flaw in this episode whatsoever. this was my favorite episode of all Smallville, and I freakin mean it. WE SAW KRYPTON AND THE SUN... although we saw the planet's surface back in Memoria and in Lara, it was still AWESOME! can't wait to see robert picardo as a veritas member though.

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The political commentaries had to come in at some point. They had a villain in the story of this episode and it was Lex. Lex was president. The president deals with political issues and without Lex obsessing over Kryptonian powers, he wants to do something to Earth that'll make him known as a villain. All of the comments by Jimmy and Lois about Lex's presidency had to be made in order to get the plot moving or else it would seem as if Clark knew all about Lex's plan without any background.

of coruse... he is the villain of the story... :)

[AndiGirl]

I loved it also. I have to agree with you.

I agree too. The episode was fabulous! For once I felt Clark really was superman. A nice change of pace! :p

If I had to make any criticism...it would be that the episode seemed rushed. Like they were trying to squeeze in as much as possible. I really would have thought Clark going to Krypton would have been saved for another episode...but instead they just tag it on the end.

Which does make sense....they dont have a lot of episodes left to play the story out. Well....only 2 really! But then I wonder why do "sleeper" To me that felt like a filler episode...then this one, which happend to be one of the best I've seen in awhile, had a lot of stuff squished in.

My only complaint...other then that, I LOVED it! :)

[REebee52]

It was very rushed, I agree. But it is not Earth's yellow sun that irradiates Kryptonite. It was referred to as the "Green Death" on Krypton, so it was already irradiated. Typically, the core becomes unstable and this spreads to the surface until the planet explodes.

Yes a nuclear holocaust is a huge event, but the way they had it executed did not strike with me. There was little tension building, it just sort of 'happened.'

The Paradoxes I'm referring to are primarily time paradoxes. I knew as soon as I found out Kara had gone back in time that some were guaranteed to occur. For instance, the diary Clark had "changing" suddenly. If it really did 'change' Clark never should have noticed it, it just became into being. For instance, CLark says to Chloe "you'll be fine, you'll never know me" or something to that effect. But they totally disregard this little reality with the diary... It's little things like that. And the scene we saw where Lara puts Kal El into the ship has been totally retconned, which would then imply Clark never should have remembered it to begin with... Time travel is difficult to pull off, and has to be written in a phenomenal manner, and it wasn't done here.

Political commentary: An evil president fakes an enemies weapon capabilities in order to launch a preemptive strike. It's not hard to see they compared Lex Luthor with George Bush. I'm not saying Bush is a fantastic president, but comparing him to this? Superman is a bipartisan, American hero. I always find it a little annoying when writers make any iconic story such as his take a side on an issue of opinion. (Look back at some of the pro-government propaganda pushed by Superman at one point... It's just annoying to read. It's just as annoying to make him the opposite). I'm not saying he can't be patriotic, or that he can't fight the government (a la CADMUS in Justice League), it's when they make direct, modern references that it bothers me. (granted, Cadmus pushes it... But it was too damn cool, and they wrote it in such a way that you see where they were coming from).

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My solution: Slow the story down and make it a two parter, iron out the time traveling, and it could have been better

[Kal-ed]

I think you asuming that that was what they were intending when they wrote the episodes is what´s exagerated.

And you are nitpicking the time travel too much, even back to the future and Terminator arent safe from the time travel paradox.

[Eri-El]

Weeks of anticipation... For this. They bring back the sheriff for no reason... They make a show filled with paradoxes and inconsistencies (for instance... At Krypton's end the whole surface was covered in Kryptonite, as seen even here. Notice the green columns?), and yet nobody feels any effects... There's bad writing, way too much political commentary... No building of tension... This was supposed to show why Clark needed to be on earth. Instead we get leveled with this. I've supported the show for a long time, and have stood up for some unpopular episodes, but this one really let me down.


I feel sorry for you that you feel this way .............Because this was the BEST Episode yet.........

[pizzahead2490]

i loved this darn episode. although it was so short.

[vikingjedi]

This episode rocked. It was a 1000 times better than last week

[MozartRequiem]

I thought the episode was amazing! Tom did such a great job with acting AND directing, and we saw new facets of the characters in subtle ways. I was worried that things could've gone too far over the top (performance-wise), but Tom really made things subtle.

The ONLY thing that bothered me, plot-wise: if Clark never was on earth, but meteor freaks still existed, wouldn't Lana, Chloe, Lex, everyone, be dead?

[Harrison_Bergeron]

Awesome episode, the only problem was the commercials. Dos anyone happen to know how long it actually was? It had to be less than 40 minutes right? The commercials in the first half totally killed the story, whenever something big started happening, commercial, but that can't really be blamed on the writing or directing.

[Ilovebeinglost]

I loved it commercials and all. 37 mins

[REebee52]

Yeah it was way too short. It had enormous potential, I just don't think they delivered like they should have... For one thing, in my opinion there should not have been a meteor shower at all, but... Oh well...
Best episode ever? I hardly think so. Not that I think this is even a bad episode, just that it was not nearly as good as it could have been. It really should have been a two parter. I got too much crammed into one very short episode. All of a sudden we're on Krypton... Doesn't that deserve a little more? I don't know, just my opinion. I would have liked more Clois as well...

[LexLuv180]

I just thought it was alright. The scenes without the AU crap were great. I'm just not into AU in any show I watch. I thought the ideas were a bit cheesy but the directing and acting were well played.

[manofsteel2009]

my review .

All in all this weeks smallville in some ways was worse than sleeper & this epi left me unimpressed & quite bored. Clark complains more about being the death of everybody yadda, yadda, yadda then chloe gives him a stern talking to, then a key now has the power to time travel & we get alternate universe where predictably everyone is happy but clark realises that not all is as seems & ends up realising the world is better with him in it, which won't stop him from bringing on the guilt trips in episodes to come, hense forth makiing this epi a waste of time. Brainiac was defeated to easily.....for now anyway & Kara was plain boring in both the AU & the RW. Just a run of the mill episode for me & built up far to much hype for how little actually happened & also everything felt to rushed. Also using STM's effects as a basis for Krypton on smallville was a big f*** up IMO. The exploding effect although reminisent of STM was a cheap effect & looked horrible. Looked like I was watching Lois & Clark again. Cringe worthy stuff. I give this epi a 2 out of 10 for overblown hype & not much happening to keep my interest.

Peace,


Steve

[maryjanewatson]

Yeah, but at least the product placement has been greatly toned down if not completely eradicated.

what, you didn't see the stride gum sitting next to baby kal-el on krypton?


;)

[afewskrewsl0ose]

I'm quite surprised that there were so many negative criticisms of this episode, which I honestly feel has redeemed the show of a string of mediocre/poorly written mid-season episodes. (Let's not disregard the time constraints on the writing due to the writers strike which might contribute to the lackluster quality of the earlier part of season 7) I absolutely thought that Apocalypse was the episode that Season 7 needed to get things moving along. Tom Welling did a fantastic job directing and acting this time around. One thing I noticed and was desperately seeking from the episode was continuity that draws concepts from earlier seasons. Does anyone remember in the earlier seasons when Clark volunteered in a nursing home and encountered the blind woman who saw very grim futures for the people she touched? Remember Lex's future as it was portrayed by her? It involved him being president in the middle of a nuclear holocaust. I thought the ties between that old episode and apocalypse was great. In addition, this episode allowed for us to see other sides of characters that we haven't seen before. Seeing Clark carry his own weight without the support of Chloe, or seeing Lana PERIOD, allowed for major character growth on his part. Lex was diabolical as usual and the way he spoke down to Kara in his office did justice to what his character is to become. I agree with what most have said about the launching of Baby Kal-El's ship. I believe that Jor-El & Lara prepared Kal to head to Earth and probably left the ship unattended thinking that he would be fine thereafter and also unable to willingly watch their child take off in the midst of the planet's destruction. At that point Braniac arrived at a precise moment in time knowing that Jor-El & Lara wouldn't be present to make the carrying out of his task more difficult. This is the brain interactive construct we're talking about here so I'd assume the guy knows what he's doing. I don't think that we should be so nitpicky and excessively analytical of the whole time-travel paradoxes that may have been involved. I don't think that Clark should be seen as entirely responsible for securing his journey to Earth but merely taking part in preventing the future from being altered while not causing any dramatic changes in the long run. There were several things in the episode that just gave me absolute chills (the good kind). For example, seeing the interaction between Lois and Clark made me go nuts because it's a just a taste of things to come. Most of all, what I would say is the highlight of the episode, was Clark sporting the trademark glasses and truly looking like an unconfident, bumbling reporter. What more could you ask for?

[RichardMarx]

It was very rushed, I agree. But it is not Earth's yellow sun that irradiates Kryptonite. It was referred to as the "Green Death" on Krypton, so it was already irradiated. Typically, the core becomes unstable and this spreads to the surface until the planet explodes.

The Paradoxes I'm referring to are primarily time paradoxes. I knew as soon as I found out Kara had gone back in time that some were guaranteed to occur. For instance, the diary Clark had "changing" suddenly. If it really did 'change' Clark never should have noticed it, it just became into being. For instance, CLark says to Chloe "you'll be fine, you'll never know me" or something to that effect. But they totally disregard this little reality with the diary... It's little things like that.


When the planet explodes because of the nuclear reaction, the kryptonite becomes radioactive. It's okay you made a mistake.

I think the diary was not in this episode, it was in the last episode, right?

[LuckyLois]

manofsteel2009 your avi says differently. You must have liked something about the show!

[REebee52]

When the planet explodes because of the nuclear reaction, the kryptonite becomes radioactive. It's okay you made a mistake.

I think the diary was not in this episode, it was in the last episode, right?


Then why make the columns of the house of El glowing green? The planet certainly wasn't green, until the whole thing started it's reaction. It started at the core, got out of control, spread to the surface, and then exploded. I think they should have left the pillars white or had stronger effects on the wonder-cousins.

[xanthai]

I think the diary was not in this episode, it was in the last episode, right?


It was mentioned in the very first scene. Clark tells Chloe something about the diary has changed again, if I remember correctly.

[WELLINGWIFE#2]

My opinion was that this by far this season has been on of the best epis...It got such a good reaction from people..Of course you are always going to have negative feedback and criticism (Can't please everybody). This epi surpasses what we have been having lately. Hardly any product placement, more emotion and dialogue from the actors, more continuity and relevance to the Supes mythology. I mean this might be Al & Miles SV but CK eventually becomes Superman, does he not? This episode showed more foreshadowing of that. It was very well directed, timing, camera shots, scenery, wardrobe, comedic timing, special effects. Could there have been improvements made to it, what doesn't need improvement? This epi got people (most fans) excited about SV again. Looking forward to the grand finale and more so looking forward to a better season 8.Of course if you are one of those people that was completely distraught over it and totally disappointed and angry about the epi then simply stop watching it. I hear ugly betty is on at the same time and its funny. Anyhow no disrespect to anyone cause everyone's opinion is important ...just my 2 worth...and here's to an amazing season 8 with hopefully more directed epis by TW.

[SparkleforSmallville]

"Brainiac was defeated to easily"

We didn't actually see Kara kill Braniac, and since Lana didn't come out of her Coma, I think we haven't seen the last of Braniac. Last time we saw him he was Laughing!

One of the best things, about this Brilliant episode, was that Clark had great scenes with every Character in the show. (it's interesting how it seems Lana is in the episode without ever appearing)

How about that "guy" moment when Lex tossed the football to Clark! Awesome!

[WELLINGWIFE#2]

i know and that laugh was creepy...love it

[stenochick]

It felt very rushed to me. I would have loved for Apocalypse to span over two episodes and for them to never have written and produced Sleeper. Have one episode of the AU and part two on Krypton. I could not get enough of Apocalypse. I loved it!!

The way I picture the scene with the baby is that Clark's memory of his parents putting him in the ship really happened, and then Brainiac somehow got rid of the parents, intercepted the baby, and then Clark put the baby back in the ship.

At first the Lex story seemed to be a liberal dig at the Bush administration, but after watching it again, it is a pretty timeless scenario. It this show were set in the 1950's to 1980's, it would have been a dig at the Cold War, like Dr. Strangelove.

[Kevin24]

I am let down right now too.....by this thread....:(

[WELLINGWIFE#2]

I am let down right now too.....by this thread....:(

:lol:

[Alicia Chipy]

There was enough important material there for a two parter.Commercials are a real pain.

[winthjo]

Maybe we can be lucky and they can have any cut scenes on the Season 7 DVD. It would be interesting if they were able have on that DVD the original episode 15 when it was supposed to be the season finale.

[All about Clark]

nuclear holocaust isnt reason enough to show why clark is needed on earth?

Actually it is. However, it was also about Zod taking over the planet with Braniac by his side and Kara being forced to produce his offspring. And with limited people left on the planet to act as slaves to rebuild the way Zod would want it. So no I can't agree with you.

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I am let down right now too.....by this thread....:(

I'll second that.

[Yoshua]

Krytponite is not Krypton.

Krypton is not lethal to Kryptonians. Kryptonite is.


Kryptonite is the irradiated rock that was radiated by the exploding red sun when krypton was destroyed.


Irradiated rock on earth is poisonous to humans, but rocks are not.

[Alexander III]

Blame it on the writer's strike for making so many inconsistencies and plotholes in this episode. But overall it's still a good episode, c'mon man, cheer up and give a shoutoutz to TW's directing!