So humanity is doomed to destroy itself without Kal-El?

[Superman of Krypton]

That's pretty uplifting ....:confused:

Do you think Jor-El's simulation of a world without Kal-El was accurate or exaggerated ??

[Mar-El]

Well think of it this way...

Humanity was doomed to destroy itself because you still had aliens like Kara and Brainiac helping Lex out. Kara mentions she used all of her powers to help Lex get to where he is in the AU and it is obvious that Milton Fine is pulling all the strings to bring about this apocalypse.

If you take out Kal-El, Kara and Brainiac, humanity would not be doomed to destroy itself (IMO). I think the point is that since you have a super-villain like Brainiac on the scene, you need a super-hero like Clark to stop him.

[Liarma]

pretty true man ;)

[Honey45]

That's pretty uplifting ....:confused:

Do you think Jor-El's simulation of a world without Kal-El was accurate or exaggerated ??

I could be overassuming Jor-El's powers (I don't follow the Superman story too well), but I don't think this is a "simulation" of what Earth would be like without Clark.. it IS what Earth would be without Clark.

I could be wrong though.

[Theshadow129x]

Humanity was doomed to destroy itself before the kryptonians arrive. disease, famine, and war are all things humanity cause, live, and die by. So even in if Kara and Brainiac have an influence on humanity's doomed future, it wouldnt matter because even if they werent here humanity would still see its end. Even Kal-el futile efforts of saving people, doesnt change the future on the human race.

[Imzadia]

I could be overassuming Jor-El's powers (I don't follow the Superman story too well), but I don't think this is a "simulation" of what Earth would be like without Clark.. it IS what Earth would be without Clark.

I could be wrong though.

That means the story, "Apocalypse", worked for you.;) It's an 'alternate universe' created within a TV universe for the reality(ies) that is SMALLVILLE.:rolleyes: You know what I mean. It's whatever the storyteller has created from his imagination. That also means, IMO, that there are many, many possibilities. :D


Now, if we were to enter into a philosophical discussion on this doomsday subject, it could be prolonged for an undetermined length of time. As 'TheShadow129x' said, humanity has 'Doomed' itself time and time again. It's part of humanity's history that we know of, and we seem to continue repeating behaviors that lead to apocalyptic events. :eek: It's a Stress Reliever for us to create Fictional Realities where we're saved before the destruction.:cool:

People of Faith have other or different saviors, but that's in our real world. Obviously, we need to have a savior or the HOPE of one to give us motivation to continue, as a race, no matter what 'universe' we're sampling from. I'm glad that there are talented people who think of creative ways for us to be entertained and distracted for a while from what's really going on all over this mad, spinning, ball of mud we call our Home planet. They Imagine other possibilities for us to ponder. :p

[redeem147]

This wasn't so much what would happen if Clark had never come to Earth as it is what would have happened if Brainiac had murdered baby Kal-El and come to Earth to take over the planet. We don't really know what life would have been like if he'd never been sent.

But where the heck were Jor-el and Lara while Brainiac was trying to play skewer the baby?

[hookem91]

^^it looked like the ship was crashed, so i believe brainiac made it crash after jor-el sent it off. I could be totally wrong though

[Ardiem3]

The vision was put into place to show Clark what the world would be like without him, which is what the vision showed, doomed. We need Kal-El to save us from ourselves and other threats, hes Earths savior, thats his destiny.

[RJLCyberPunk]

That's pretty uplifting ....:confused:

Do you think Jor-El's simulation of a world without Kal-El was accurate or exaggerated ??

He did not put it that way, who he has to stop is Brainiac which is the one that destroyed Krypton along with Zod and their plan continues to be that of destroying Mankind and repopulate what's left of the planet to make a new Krypton in their own twisted image. The writters have failed miserably in explaining how the repopulation phase will happen with no Kryptonians around anymore and you'd need about 200 Kryptonians or more to make a new viable population rise anyway...

[jimmyolsenblues]

So humanity is doomed to destroy itself without Kal-El?

that is what i got from it, just like Superman Returns, "Why the world needs a superman"

[Hopefulsuicide]

I didn't see it this way at all

Way i watched the episode, it's without Clark Kent around Lex Luthor is doomed to destroy the planet with the help of Braniac and Kara

I mean, what would the world have been like if you took Braniac, Kara and Lex out too?

[shawn316]

What's with all this confusion about Superman's purpose on Earth? People seemed to be bothered that our safety and survival is in his hands. Isn't that the point of Superman and what makes him so special? Basically, he was sent to Earth to prevent us from repeating the fate of Krypton. So Jor-El sends his only son and remainding survivor to serve as our protector/savior. His story mirrors very close to Christianity and Jesus. Hate to quote Marlon Brando's portrayal of Jor-El, but he put it very good. So here goes: "They are a good people Kal-El, they wish to be, they simply lack the light to show them the way." These lines were repeated in Superman Returns, when Clark is questioning his place on Earth.

Anyway, most portrayal try to put Superman as our protector, but stress that we must also take care of our actions. He is here to remind us, when we loose site of that. Also, the point of Apocalypse was for Jor-El to show Clark that he was sent here for a reason, and that reason/purpose can't be taken lightly. Not only to stop threats on Earth, but threats from afar.

[SteveS]

That's pretty uplifting ....:confused:

Do you think Jor-El's simulation of a world without Kal-El was accurate or exaggerated ??

It wasn't 'humanity' as a collective term that destroys 'itself', it is Lex Luthor's evil and misguided self that sets up the death of millions, the same millions who would be innocent in their destruction.