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shy175223
04-30-2008, 04:04 PM
Please do not post until after the airing of this episode..












Edit: Canadian viewers you may rate this episode but try to not spoil too much for those whom have not seen it yet..

Ilovebeinglost
04-30-2008, 08:16 PM
Ok I won't.

Let's just say that I loved it and it more than made up fo last week.

ClarkNLanaTogether4Eva
04-30-2008, 08:20 PM
Stellar Episode. Unbelievable. I am still trembling.

It will definitely make your day!

10/10

Superman's Princess
04-30-2008, 08:30 PM
Stellar Episode. Unbelievable. I am still trembling.

It will definitely make your day!

10/10
So excited! I can't for tomorrow! :D

ClarkyBoy14
04-30-2008, 08:33 PM
Thanks for the teases! I know "Apocalypse" is going to be awesome! :D

Mar-El
04-30-2008, 08:51 PM
10/10

I will give my full review tomorrow after everyone's seen it :) :D

(Sorry I couldn't contain myself)

Alexander III
04-30-2008, 08:56 PM
Wow is it that good? I missed the episode because I had to write an exam. Now I MUST SEE it!!

Mar-El
04-30-2008, 08:58 PM
Wow is it that good? I missed the episode because I had to write an exam. Now I MUST SEE it!!

I had to write an exam today too, but it ended at 5 and so I rushed home. ^_^

Alexander III
04-30-2008, 09:12 PM
I had to write an exam today too, but it ended at 5 and so I rushed home. ^_^

Lucky u, I wrote mine exactly at 7 to 9, SV won't play tomorrow on Thursday so I guess I'll have to wait and d________ it =)

ClarkNLanaTogether4Eva
04-30-2008, 09:30 PM
I had to write an exam today too, but it ended at 5 and so I rushed home. ^_^
Aww, same here! I wrote my last exam today and I have officially graduated University of Ottawa! :)

Tonight's excellent Smallville episode was a great graduation present..LOL! :P

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Lucky u, I wrote mine exactly at 7 to 9, SV won't play tomorrow on Thursday so I guess I'll have to wait and d________ it =)
Another fellow neighbour whom shares a lot in common with me! :) I hope you did good on your exam!

[Mod Edit:] Watch it.... Discussion of illegal downloading is prohibited here in the KryptonSite forums. ;)

....so chances are you will divulge yourself into a fix of Smallville..to serve as a well earned award for you writing the exam :)

AngelaV
04-30-2008, 11:54 PM
Awesome! Too bad we only get two more episodes!

mctor
05-01-2008, 12:23 AM
10/10 I loved it!

Thrill_Seeker
05-01-2008, 12:44 AM
ahh great !!!
only making me look more forward to watching this episode. except I have to wait till saturday....ARGH !!!!!!!!
at least I still get to watch it. funny enough, all the people hating last weeks episode, for some really odd episode only made me like it more !!! I adored sleeper !!!
but apocalypse is gonna be great !!!!
I hope clark really gets over his whole pity party and realises its not his fault and finally grow some balls
for the canadians who've already seen it,

did anything big or exciting happen ????
i mean 100th episode would be remembered for J.K's death, what would you say (without spoiling much), (or at all) this episode could be remembered of ??? anything big ???

looking forward to quest and arctic ALOT

Mar-El
05-01-2008, 12:52 AM
Without giving any plot points away Thrill_Seeker: This episode, in my opinion, is the most memorable of the season. It's definitely in my top 10 list for the entire series. I don't know how others feel, but I think its one of those episodes that just appeals to everybody.

Great job directing, Tom Welling!

Thrill_Seeker
05-01-2008, 02:52 AM
oh my !! thank you thank you !!
im just DYING too see this. Ive NEVER been so desperate or excited to see it.

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Without giving any plot points away Thrill_Seeker: This episode, in my opinion, is the most memorable of the season. It's definitely in my top 10 list for the entire series. I don't know how others feel, but I think its one of those episodes that just appeals to everybody.

Great job directing, Tom Welling!

REALLY ???
better than descent and traveler ???
how good could this possibly be ??? I hope its just fantastic for me !!!

skully
05-01-2008, 06:29 AM
Without giving any plot points away Thrill_Seeker: This episode, in my opinion, is the most memorable of the season. It's definitely in my top 10 list for the entire series. I don't know how others feel, but I think its one of those episodes that just appeals to everybody.

Great job directing, Tom Welling!Sweet!! Can't wait to see it!!

Jaderoyale
05-01-2008, 07:50 AM
I am extremley excited right now.

jesslang
05-01-2008, 07:54 AM
Omg i cant wait im at school right now and i cant wiat too see it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i wonder whats going to happen clark gets to go back to krypton ...and what about lana ..!!!!!!!!!! ...and lex is president ???????? whats up with that ..its like he was never there....becuse its light years away ..and all ...i cant wait.

Jaderoyale
05-01-2008, 08:00 AM
Omg i cant wait im at school right now and i cant wiat too see it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i wonder whats going to happen clark gets to go back to krypton ...and what about lana ..!!!!!!!!!! ...and lex is president ???????? whats up with that ..its like he was never there....becuse its light years away ..and all ...i cant wait.

Clarks not going back to Krypton in this episode.
Hes going to an alternate universe.

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Great job directing, Tom Welling!

Now this information overjoys me :lol:

GuardianAngel
05-01-2008, 08:03 AM
Clarks not going back to Krypton in this episode.
Hes going to an alternate universe.


That's not completely true. Wait till you watch the episode.

TheANIMAL (marcus)
05-01-2008, 09:01 AM
Better than Descent?

Mar-El
05-01-2008, 09:32 AM
Descent was an artfully done episode. It's in its own category. It's hard to gauge which episode is better, but I might have to go with Apocalypse. As for Traveler, I loved Traveler...but Apocalypse is also better than that, IMO.

Apocalypse is just action-packed and a lot of fun. A lot of stuff happens for a 40 minute episode, IMO. I'd say what we knew about it with spoilers and all only covers 2/3s of the episode.

I can't wait until everyone sees it so we can get more reactions :D

shy175223
05-01-2008, 09:36 AM
That's not completely true. Wait till you watch the episode.
oh heck now I'm really excited.

Jaderoyale
05-01-2008, 10:36 AM
That's not completely true. Wait till you watch the episode.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!?
*screams*

GuardianAngel
05-01-2008, 11:56 AM
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!?
*screams*

Please note that I didn't specify which sentence was not completely true... ;)

Jaderoyale
05-01-2008, 01:45 PM
Please note that I didn't specify which sentence was not completely true... ;)

I know.
But still.
*repeats* WHAAAAAAAAAAT!?

Jade4813
05-01-2008, 01:56 PM
Please note that I didn't specify which sentence was not completely true... ;)

I'm personally enjoying your evilness!

Oh, and BTW - Top 10 of the series? Absolutely for me! It may be possible that this would even be in the top 5, IMO!

Jaderoyale
05-01-2008, 02:28 PM
I am too excited.

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I'm personally enjoying your evilness!

Oh, and BTW - Top 10 of the series? Absolutely for me! It may be possible that this would even be in the top 5, IMO!

*screams*

Hahah. When people say these things, i get overjoyed.

jimmyolsenblues
05-01-2008, 07:53 PM
fantastic episode.

sheltiemom
05-01-2008, 07:54 PM
One of this season's best. Tom did a great job directing.
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Thought the scene with the missles being launched around the Kent farm was awesome.
Kudeos.

jordeant1200
05-01-2008, 08:00 PM
10/10 even though it was really like a 9.8/10

WickedJenn
05-01-2008, 08:01 PM
Best episode this season, hands down.

Loved the ending as well, great lead in for the next episodes.

clana4everfan2
05-01-2008, 08:03 PM
Great episode and Tom did an awesome job in directing! :D

reobeem
05-01-2008, 08:04 PM
I must say this was better than I figured it would be. I'm happy to hear from Jor-El, see Clark in a suit and tie, and get a look at some true blue Superman scences. It's true what they say one change could alter the course of the future. The preview made it interesting to see the face of the lsat member of Veritas and yet I still don't know who he is, it's a 9/10.

LoveHurts38
05-01-2008, 08:05 PM
The episode was great loved it !! 10 for me**grin**

Lexgirl33
05-01-2008, 08:06 PM
Voted 9. Great episode!

I really like how they used the older shots of the missles and connected it with this storyline

Ginx
05-01-2008, 08:06 PM
10/10!!!!!

The mythos, character development, and action along with tiein' in previous storylines was awesome. I also loved the glimpse at the Clark Kent we all know and Lois we all know! I loved all the interactions and references! :)

madcatlady
05-01-2008, 08:07 PM
Excellent...saw something I never thought I'd see on Smallville...Clark acting like Superman! Oh and the Krypton thing. ;)

TheANIMAL (marcus)
05-01-2008, 08:08 PM
Interesting camera work, there was alot of handheld and walking camera shots.

Some of the SFX was gobsmacking, other parts were mediore.

WookieeBoy
05-01-2008, 08:08 PM
:D

This was easily the best episode in a generally disappointing and frustrating season. Very cool. Nice job directing Welling!

Bizarro345
05-01-2008, 08:09 PM
Loved it! Loved the whole scene with Lex, Clark, Kara, and Brainiac in Lex's office.

jimmyolsenblues
05-01-2008, 08:10 PM
i think someone voted 1 by accident.

Darth Pipes
05-01-2008, 08:10 PM
10/10

I really liked this episode. Alternate universes are often fun and this one is no exception. Clark's never-ending obsession with Lana and his whining it really annoying me but he was much better in the second half of this episode. I'm sure he'll go back to being the same whining **** he always was next episode.

Liked the look into the altered future and the stuff with Clark and Lois was good. Disappointed that we saw only five seconds of Krypton...this definitely could have been a two-parter.

A_Chloe.S._Fan
05-01-2008, 08:10 PM
positives:
-the clois scenes were cool
-violence was sooo well done
-jimmy wearing the bowtie that chloe gave him in "crimson" rocked
-and almost everything else aceept for the things listed below

negatives:
-not enough cheorge/just chloe scenes
-clark pining over lana is getting old

over all, this ep was an 8/10

AlwaysRight
05-01-2008, 08:13 PM
Great episode but i give it a 9 because

-enough with the Lana crying

-i didn't like the way the AU ended(although i guess it was an easy out)

-Clark should have been fighting Brainiac but i guess they wanted to set up Kara doing something in the final(personally i wish they used this episode to do the Clana being saved and end that stupid story)

-Was it really an AU or more a dream like thing like Lexmas?????

monel49
05-01-2008, 08:14 PM
An absolute 10! I wasn't expecting much from this ep. A "This is your life, Clark Kent" what if episode seemed lame. Happily, I was wrong. A crucial part of the plot arc, Apocalypse deepened character relationships and added a cool bit of mythos. Anyone else surprised and moved that Kara and Kal were the ones who put the little Kal in the ship (sci-fi purists are going to have time travel conundrums about this since it is supposedly impossible to meet yourself, but so what)? Chloe's few moments on screen were great and show how indispensable she is to the series as keeper of Clark's conscience. Great Lois and Clark interaction--a harbinger of things to come when they work together as reporters. And it was cool to go back to the vision from season 1 of Lex as president. Can't really explain it, but this was an excellent story tonight, another reason why this is the best season of SV in years. Way to go!

Yankeefan
05-01-2008, 08:17 PM
wow,wow this episode was amazing , i absolutely loved it!!!!! 10/10

spideyfan
05-01-2008, 08:17 PM
8/10
I thought it was decent but different at the same time...

Smallvilledabest
05-01-2008, 08:22 PM
10! 10! I love love it!

WickedJenn
05-01-2008, 08:26 PM
Only episode all season I've given a 10 to, and well deserved it was.

AlwaysRight
05-01-2008, 08:27 PM
i think someone voted 1 by accident.

well somebody did make a thread they dissapointed with the show tonight, that being said only special episode like spell deserve a 1(and even then that's to good)

double L
05-01-2008, 08:34 PM
9, Very good, especially the Lois Lane scenes.

SnowBird
05-01-2008, 08:41 PM
This episode was amazing and I gave it a 10. Great directing by Tom and acting by all. I believe this will be the push Clark needed to fulfill his destiny and we will see it in season 8. I'm so looking forward to watching it unfold. Smallville hit the ball out of the park this week. Congratulations!!!

RJLCyberPunk
05-01-2008, 08:53 PM
Man I loved this one! This truly deserves a 9 out of 10 it was awesome! If only they wrote like all the time instead of just about 2% of the time!

Superman's Princess
05-01-2008, 08:56 PM
10! I totally loved this epi!!!

axisoftime
05-01-2008, 09:00 PM
I must say -excellent- my second 10-Justice being the 1st.

kal-el_Girl
05-01-2008, 09:00 PM
One of this season's best. Tom did a great job directing.
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Kudeos.
that was from season 2 if I remember correctly ;)

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so let me get this straight clark would go to the fortress because of lana (of course) so daddy jor-el had to "it's a wonderful life" him. LOL It was a good eppy and loved tom's directing it was very good, especially when the Clois scenes.
good job Tom!!!!

CallMeClark
05-01-2008, 09:10 PM
And we're back in the GAME! Hell yes!

I finally got my one Smallville wish! GOING BACK TO KRYPTON!

That was enough to satisfy me.

20/10.

The Great Ymmij
05-01-2008, 09:17 PM
This was a perfect episode for me. 10/10!!

madcatlady
05-01-2008, 09:21 PM
Wish I could say 11/10 but that's a little too gushy I guess. I agree it should have been a two parter - loved watching Clark do his own thinking about from Chloe.

Jlvsclrk
05-01-2008, 09:26 PM
Yay! I loved this epi, both for itself and because of its place in the overall arc of Clark's story. Ever since Jonathan's death, Clark has been drowning in his guilt and withdrawing from the world - more focussed on not doing harm than fixing things up. He FINALLY gets to see that, yes, he has brought tragedy to a few, but ultimately, without him, its game over. This is just what he needs to get him back on track.

And I think I'm finally being to see some method in the Fortress's madness: it's been teaching Clark how to NOT be controlled by it, in case the Veritas info falls into the wrong hands.

SteveS
05-01-2008, 09:30 PM
I liked it and thought it was a very good episode. As a matter-of-fact, I didn't even dislike lois in this alternate universe, but that is because this version of lois didn't have a known history of being a jerkette and loser. I did not that she obviously was still looking for 'coitus without interruptus', but it struck me as kind of funny.

I thought ClarkMan looked good as 'the Clark' of history. Thought it was cool that he was stunned to see Chloe getting married, but still genuinely was glad for her happiness just as he was for his true luv, Lana.

All in all, I thought it was a fun episode. Tom can direct, good on him.

txluvstom
05-01-2008, 09:43 PM
Awesome episode. Great acting and brilliant direction. Third time out,Tom,and you did it again. Way to go,baby. So proud of you.

svtwamedfan05
05-01-2008, 09:48 PM
10/10 I frigging loved this episode!

jimmyolsenblues
05-01-2008, 09:58 PM
i still think people are making a mistake in the voting, if 10 is the highest , how can you give this episode a 1 or 2???????

svtwamedfan05
05-01-2008, 10:03 PM
I could be wrong but they may be non-superman fans that don't get the material in the episode. It beats me why anybody would give this episode a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9

Jade4813
05-01-2008, 10:04 PM
i still think people are making a mistake in the voting, if 10 is the highest , how can you give this episode a 1 or 2???????

Insanity?

BadToad
05-01-2008, 10:15 PM
Something of a mixed bag for me. I did think the premise had a ton of holes in it, and there were a lot of parts of it that really didn't seem to make much sense. And I thought the stuff on Krypton fell flat.

IMO, this was an episode BEGGING to be a 2-parter. There were too many things to try and cram into 40 minutes.

But I did like how smart, proactive and heroic Clark was in the AU. I thought the stuff with President Luthor and Fine was chilling. Kara was very interesting. And I thought Lois was a lot of fun in the AU. I wish they wrote her in this fashion more often. And I very much liked the last Clois scene. It was very sweet.

I gave it a generous mark of 8 because I was so impressed with Clark (once that first scene was done, that is).

Chloe_is_my_Hero
05-01-2008, 10:30 PM
I thought that it was absolutely one of the best episodes for a while now! I was on the edge of my seat, which has not happened a good bit in recent weeks. Clark was wimpy in the beginning, but he came back with a boom. And the look that Tom gave when Lex asked him if there was any information that he could give him to help Lana!!! He almost had tears in his eyes as he realized that his life WAS/IS more important than hers. It was AMAZING!!!!

jqedward
05-01-2008, 10:36 PM
This episode was awesome. But at the end I'm thinking o great what is going on with Kara now. Is Brainiac possessed her or something?

loistickyfingerz
05-01-2008, 10:39 PM
It was a very good Smallville episode. I loved it! Loved the Clois, I can't help it, it was a bit forced, but I still loved every second. Fantastic! Loved the LEX and Kara and Clark interaction. There should have been more of that all season. Great ending. Good continuity. Wow!

LuckyLois
05-01-2008, 10:42 PM
Loved this episode. I think Tom did a great job. His instincts about each character is right on. I thought Chloe looked beautiful, Lois was fun to watch and see them work together (like imagining one of my fan-fics), lex was so greedy for ulitmate power, Fine was sinister, and Kara and Jimmy were good.

My favorite part was when he puts the suit on and Lois is trying to sneak a peek.

Good drama is at its best when there are also a few laughs, and this had it all!

Kandorman
05-01-2008, 10:56 PM
I agree with the 10 people! This was a very compelling episode for me. It was a dream which Clark carried with him once he awoke and will advance his acceptance of his destiny as Superman. I loved all the cameos of characters and their relationships foreshadowing their eventual roles in the Superman mythology. I was particularly impressed with the way they used this dream sequence to finally initiate the match between Clark and Lois. This is something which just had not been developing and I was wondering how and when the writers were ever going to get this plot line going. Their relationship for the most part had been so dismissive over the years. When Lois' invitation to a beer in their final scene stirred recognition in Clark's eyes of the change in their relationship begun in the dream sequence, I said, "Yes, at long last"!

Nice plot momentum generated here! I can't wait to see how Lex handles the inevitable discovery that Clark is "The Traveler".

pizzahead2490
05-01-2008, 11:01 PM
just fantastic. i cant say anything else it was a perfect episode. i accedently voted a 9 i meant to vote 10/10. but this was the best epi for the season decent come 2nd place.

fly'n special
05-01-2008, 11:12 PM
What an epi! Tom is great at directing!! Loved every scene!! Tom has so many different facial expressions. Just a great epi all around

yosemiteangel
05-01-2008, 11:13 PM
Loved it!!!! :D :D :D

Hounshell
05-01-2008, 11:17 PM
that was totally awesome.

amberdawn
05-01-2008, 11:51 PM
I loved it!!

xHerox
05-01-2008, 11:54 PM
Ultimately, I gave this episode a '9', and the only reason it is not a perfect score is because of a few other excellent episodes of this season, which I found to be slightly better. Still, there were some truly great moments in "Apocalypse", and this episode made me realize that some kind of spin-off involving Clark and Lois in Metropolis could actually work quite well, despite being unlikely. In addition, while I like the plot that has been developing for the better part of the season, it was nice to have that take somewhat of a backseat to explore an interesting "what if" scenario. Tom Welling did a great job directing this episode, and the performances really were top-notch all around; in fact, I particularly liked Jimmy in this episode for some reason.

Overall, a great episode and one that is sure to stand out as one of the season's best.

LoisL
05-01-2008, 11:55 PM
Really great 9-10 episode.

Surviving the strike was worth it for episodes like Apocalypse airing this season. So many great mythos tags. I also think it was a great follow-thru on Lex's evilness. We are so tempted to ask ourselves (at least Clark is) how much Clark's unspectacular record as his friend had an impact. Kara, however, seemed genuinely innocent; a true blue loyal friend; yet Lex --knowing her secret, using her powers-- still found it in him to feel jealous and betrayed: that really illustrated what a megalomaniac he is!

I thought the Clois was fun. Still treated lightly but sort of put on spotlight the prototype attraction btwn the two.

The episode had strong ingredients and some beautiful shots. I gave it a 9 over a 10 simply because I think it would have packed a bigger whallop if there'd been more of a lead-in. As it was, despite being spoilered, the ep was pretty confusing. An engaging episode and classic storyline but not as much of a 150th Ep Grand Event as I was expecting (in the spirit of Reckoning and Promise). Heck, was it the lack of real-time Lana? I credited it to the lack of real-time Ma or Pa Kent and a spontaneous quality.

Kirstycol
05-02-2008, 12:02 AM
I gave it an 8. It wasn't the best episode I've ever seen but it didn't suck as much as Sleeper.
I really enjoyed seeing Lex as pure evil ready to stupidly destroy the world in a blind lust for power.
I was a little annoyed that the first thing Clark says when he gets to krypton is Let go of Lana or something to that effect... He says he cares about her, yet he won't tell Lex it has anything to do with Milton Find. When Lex might actually have the ability to help her.

I think the reason she's still affected by Milton is because he's self replicating. Kara only killed one copy. There may be more out there.

It was interesting to see that Lana, Chloe, Martha and Johnathan's lives are better in a way without clark. Maybe not in the grand skeme of things but they seem pretty happy. But Lex is waaay worse. I guess Clark balanaces out the good and evil so to speak.

BWOracle
05-02-2008, 12:09 AM
10 -- SUPERMAN IS HERE. Anyone who isn’t at least a little satisfied with this episode is never going to be satisfied with Smallville. I wished TW directed every episode…of course, he wouldn’t have time to appear as Clark. Even liked it better than Descent which I thought was one of the 3 best of the series.

Plenty of chills and spills. Clark is dynamic and in control. Lex was pure evil. Lois was what I expected Lois Lane to be (and she looked hot to boot). Kara looked good in the suit, made a nice transition from Lex’s henchwoman, to Kal-El killer, to Clark supporter and has a great kick (upside Brainiac’s head). James Marsters and AM were good…as always. Jimmy was very iconic with the bowtie (plus I loved the camera work around the Daily Planet straight from Superman: The Movie).

The special effects were terrific (especially Krypton). The use of existing sets was very effective although there was only so much they could do with their limited budget. I just wish episodes lasted longer (like they used to).

I liked the Key effects and the way the barn slowly lit as Clark awoke in the AU. I like how the lights came up quickly in Clark’s head as well…he caught on pretty quick. He also displayed excellent research skills…the first real indication (at least since high school) that Clark may make a decent reporter one day. Great intro of Clark Kent meeting…Clark Kent.

So how is it that Chloe still has her Toyota Yaris in the AU without Smallville product placement? If there were no Clark Kent, there’d be no SV series.

“Clumsy…but cute.” Love the dip (and right after,` Jimmy mentions the tango…coincidence?) And of course, Lois with a Pulitzer (iconic if you include Superman Returns). Nice strong-arming of Jimmy Olsen by Clark Kent.

Shouldn’t it be Linda Luthor instead of Danvers? (Another LL)

Sheriff Adams looked pretty good in street clothes. And if you have a set standing from Sleeper, might as well keep it up for Apocalypse (although it was also a re-dress of the Oliver Queen apartment set). “Just, give it up”…superspeed…”I don’t give up”.

Thank you ED for that lower lip bite…sexy. “You’re an android, aren’t you.” I like Lois’ reaction when she almost gets caught spying on Clark changing, not realizing how fast he’d be. Also, loved the cut from Clark in the apartment in the suit to his appearing at the mansion with the glasses.

Lex was even more evil than Brainiac…ordering Milton Fine to falsify reports. We get the same surprised look from LV when she discovers Clark is stronger than her (as in the Kara episode).

Lex’s oval office is a little rectangular. It was a little convenient that Kara just stands there waiting to get shot for about 20 seconds after Lex shoots Clark. Nice menacing scene with Brainiac shooting Clark as the missiles are launched and his detailing his plans in JM’s usual cool calm voice. Kara and Lex would have to get pretty busy to repopulate the planet.

Shouldn’t Lex have been in NORAD before launching the missiles?

Great to see the tube of light effect and hear the return of Terence Stamp as Jor-El (especially coming from JM’s mouth).

Good use of the FOS Set to duplicate Krypton. The not in Kansas anymore line is a little overused these days. Great smile TW gives the baby before putting him in the ship. Awesome effect of the ship accelerating off the planet and then accelerating into deep space (almost like a warp speed effect).

The beer scene between Clark and Lois really made me believe that next season they could become the core of the show. They worked really well together in that scene.

Kara’s collapse was a good setup for the last two episodes of the season.

The trailer for Quest looked good and it was nice to see Robert Picardo from Star Trek Voyager as the monk.

Spirit Detective
05-02-2008, 12:35 AM
I really enjoyed this episode. I thought this was a lot better than Sleeper last week. I'm glad that Brainiac's activities on Krypton were concluded in this episode.

I loved how Jor-El spoke to Clark within the four pillars of blue light (nice continuity from Season 4). My favorite moment was their talk and how Clark should not refute his destiny.

It was so nice to see how the Smallville characters in the Alternate Universe where they were in their iconic Superman roles. I loved how Lex was wearing the white suit with the black glove as depicted in Hourglass and Scare.

I'm not really a big shipper fan but the Clois was pretty good tonight.

Brainiac's plan was ingenious...having Lex Luthor as President and Zod's Vessel with Kara as Zod's Queen.

I can't wait for the final two episodes now.

iMack
05-02-2008, 12:48 AM
8/10. Great 150th.

Imzadia
05-02-2008, 01:06 AM
It was an Outstanding episode! 10/10, It should rank among the BEST in the Series, IMHO. Tom Welling as director (and even directing himself) displayed an insightful talent for visual storytelling...AGAIN. As one of his co-stars commented about his directing, "... he's a 'Natural'". However, eventhough he is embracing and honeing his directing ability, I hope he will continue to act and focus more on performing BEFORE the camera.

sherban1988
05-02-2008, 01:10 AM
Brilliant episode. I'd give it a... 27/10 :D
We were promised a good 150th episode, and they delivered!
It was... pure genius.

shawn316
05-02-2008, 01:28 AM
WOW! This episode was AMAZING! There wasn't a single moment I didn't enjoy. It's been a while since I got a buzz like this from a SV episode. Sure made up in a hurry for all the other fluff of the last 2 seasons. Definitely in my top 3 favorites of all time...along with "Reckoning" and "Rosetta". Smallville/Clark definitely have a strong "Superman" feel to it, now. Glad to see that there is no more hemming and hawing with Clark now. Episodes like this are why I watch and love this show.

...and seeing the trailer for "Quest", I got chills. It looks like Clark has finally had his "Ah!Hah! moment, in realizing his destiny. Look forward to the next two episodes and season 8.

ginnyfan
05-02-2008, 01:31 AM
10/10

This episode was AMAZING. This may be my favorite episode of the Series.

There was so much Superman in this episode.

The Lex as president vision has always been on of my favorite moments of SV and to have an episode that explores that in more detail is just WONDERFUL!

Clois is a huge plus.

It was just great!

GENERALzod777
05-02-2008, 01:50 AM
wonder whats up with kara. crying over spilled milk...

skully
05-02-2008, 01:53 AM
Man, oh man, oh man and o.m.f.g. What an episode!!!!! Just awesome.

Magnificent job behind and in front of the camera by TW, MR was at his villainous best, and ED, AA and LV did great. I loved the Chlark scene at the beginning and all the Clois scenes. I agree that the only down side was that there was just so much more they could've done in the AU, but you can only squeeze so much into 40 minutes. Other than that, I thought it was just about flawless.

And kudos to TPTB for pulling all of the Jor-El plotlines together to finally show Clark his destiny. May the new PTB really build into a stellar season 8.

9.5 out of 10.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

wonder whats up with kara. crying over spilled milk...Clearly she's possessed by Brainiac

Thrill_Seeker
05-02-2008, 02:20 AM
WOW WOW WOW !!!!!!!!
so great !!!!!
I mean like nothing actually happened in the real world, but it was so cool !!!! so cool !!!!!!
just wow ! and whats wrong with kara at the end of the ep

Yasise
05-02-2008, 02:30 AM
This episode was SUPER! I just watched it and I'm soooo happy! After "Sleeper" I was so dissapointed and now I can't stop smiling.

Tom was terrific - behind the camera and in front of it! Finally he's back to his passionate and enthusiastic performance! One could really see that he so much enjoyed his work in that episode. I so much missed this little extra in his acting, that cute, heartwarming smile of his ......I'm so happy!

Thank you Tom, you're a great director and a brilliant actor! I couldn't have asked for more!
This episode is outstanding! There's not one moment I didn't enjoy! Thank you so much!

Krypto_marcus
05-02-2008, 02:33 AM
I LOVED this episode, it was awesome!!! 11/10 :D

manofsteel2009
05-02-2008, 03:25 AM
my review .

All in all this weeks smallville in some ways was worse than sleeper & this epi left me unimpressed & quite bored. Clark complains more about being the death of everybody yadda, yadda, yadda then chloe gives him a stern talking to, then a key now has the power to time travel & we get alternate universe where predictably everyone is happy but clark realises that not all is as seems & ends up realising the world is better with him in it, which won't stop him from bringing on the guilt trips in episodes to come, hense forth makiing this epi a waste of time. Brainiac was defeated to easily.....for now anyway & Kara was plain boring in both the AU & the RW. Just a run of the mill episode for me & built up far to much hype for how little actually happened & also everything felt to rushed. Also using STM's effects as a basis for Krypton on smallville was a big f*** up IMO. The exploding effect although reminisent of STM was a cheap effect & looked horrible. Looked like I was watching Lois & Clark again. Cringe worthy stuff. I give this epi a 2 out of 10 for overblown hype & not much happening to keep my interest.

Peace,


Steve

skully
05-02-2008, 03:30 AM
^^^^^^^
Hard.to.please. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. :(

Blue screen of death
05-02-2008, 03:40 AM
was great. Its nice to see all the old continuity coming together. The funny thing was in the AU clark still felt he had to stop lex, braniac, and save the world. So even the fact that this is the world without you and its gonna be nuked. He still had to jump in and attempt to save the day. For a guy who's running from his destiny he sure embraces it alot. All and all it seemed like it finally was a true superman story. The cliffhanger for next week was cool to though its ppretty obvious she is braniac or braniac is replicating himself once again this time trhough kara. She will live ofcourse because of that whole supergirl thing but either way still pretty neat. I am definately looking forward to the season's last 2 episodes and the premier episode(s) for next season and hoping that the premier is atleast a 2 parter.

GuardianAngel
05-02-2008, 03:43 AM
9/10.
I enjoyed the episode. It was really good, very well directed and with lots of stuff... maybe a bit too much for only one episode.

The two things I didn't like were Lex's speech to Clark (way too reminiscent of the end of season 4 and after Descent I would have expected something darker from Lex) and whatever 's happening to Kara which I found really confusing. I know BRAINIAC likes having multiple plans in case something goes wrong and obviously killing Kal-el was just plan A but I cannot understand if the Kara we see at the end of the real one or something else... very confusing ending.

kraami
05-02-2008, 04:55 AM
I gave it a 5 just on tom welling and allison mack alone otherwise its a 0. The rest was a waste of time. Lot of things bugged me about the episode, but i really dont want to go on a bashing. It just seems that descent, sleeper and this one were strecthed out. They better get allison mack back or we might see the series cancelled.

Jack-El49
05-02-2008, 05:02 AM
9/10 - just one step below Descent to me, which has been my series favorite episode thus far.

skylar
05-02-2008, 07:06 AM
Speechless!!! 10 all the way!!

SVfan4ever
05-02-2008, 07:29 AM
10/10! An excellent episode, totally enjoyed it! Great job Tom!

Waiting for Quest to air is gonna be sooo hard......

jesslang
05-02-2008, 07:31 AM
Clarks not going back to Krypton in this episode.
Hes going to an alternate universe.

----- Added 35 Seconds later -----



Now this information overjoys me :lol:



yea ...i thought he was...but it was still a good ep all the same .....but i dont get it ...if kara killed brainyac ( how ever you spell it ..) ...why isnt lana ok??

Jaderoyale
05-02-2008, 07:48 AM
*SCREAMS*

Oh. My.
I absolutely. Loved it.
It was wonderful. For the 150th episode, it did not disappoint me. At all.
Tom's acting was wonderful, he seemed more comfortable and happy than i've seen him acting in SV for a while. Not to mention his directing. He gave himself so much screen time. I was overjoyed.
I absolutely loved the Clois interaction too. That did not disappoint me either. I was smiling throughout. Lois, i mean, wow. Erica that entire episode, that was Lois. Especially when she first met Clark, to me, that was Lois Lane. She seemed so efficient.
I also laughed at how she tried to peek at him getting changed. Nice. Clark in suit. Goood. THE GLASSES!

Jimmy. Ah, Jimmy. After Sleeper, thats what i wanted to see. I loved the interaction between him and Clark, not to mention his bowtie hehe.

The whole episode, was very Superman.
Clark: I don't give up. Tell me where i can find Lois Lane.
*squeals.* That was so refreshing from hearing him say "Lana Lang,".

Lex. Oh Lex. Evil President Lex. The suit. I have been waiting for so long for that white suit since S1. I'm glad Lionels abscence was addressed as a death, that way it shows he was 'meant' to die, Clark can't blame himself, because this time Lionel died protecting Kara. Brianiac. Oh, my wonderful James Marsters. As wonderful as ever.

Back in the reality, i loved the Clois moment in the DP. As a way to break the tension between them that they weren't sure of, i loved the fact Lois punched Clark in the arm. And the asking him for a drink was a nice echo to the AU, fair enough it was a s friends. But still.
I'm also guessing Brainiac managed to implate himself in Kara somehow, but that will be revelaed.

10/10.
My third this season. WONDERFUL.

KaraClarkfan
05-02-2008, 08:10 AM
another great episode cursity to tom! great directing!

dotsie23
05-02-2008, 08:12 AM
I Loved it! this episode was awesome! I only wish they could produce more eppies like this! for me it was right up there with Justice and a few more I can't name right now. I just loved the way they used the black glove on Lex! talk about a nod to the comic book story of Lex being President was just great:eek::)

DGirlLois4Clark
05-02-2008, 08:13 AM
I loved it. Thank you Tom:D

Super Maverick
05-02-2008, 08:14 AM
kara was cute.

Darkcook
05-02-2008, 08:15 AM
Yeah, what a fantastic episode, I'm truly impressed, I'm looking forward the IGN review and hope the reviewer will give it justice.

Mandini
05-02-2008, 08:18 AM
Voted 10 - best episode this season

Tom did a fab job directing! And I'm loving the relationship between Lois and Clark growing more!

cma_454
05-02-2008, 08:36 AM
gave it a 10 (first time this season).

This wasn't just a Smallville episode, this was a Superman episode!

Joelito
05-02-2008, 08:45 AM
8, was good, not excellent..but better than Sleeper :)

Ilovebeinglost
05-02-2008, 09:38 AM
Awesome!

the suit, the glases, baby Kal el, the directing all awesome

quietone
05-02-2008, 09:49 AM
9/10

Since this was an AU episode I decided to sit back and enjoy the ride.No major quibbles with anything.

Favorite moment: Clark holding Baby!Clark.

WickedJenn
05-02-2008, 09:56 AM
*SCREAMS*

Oh. My.
I absolutely. Loved it.
It was wonderful. For the 150th episode, it did not disappoint me. At all.
Tom's acting was wonderful, he seemed more comfortable and happy than i've seen him acting in SV for a while. Not to mention his directing. He gave himself so much screen time. I was overjoyed.
I absolutely loved the Clois interaction too. That did not disappoint me either. I was smiling throughout. Lois, i mean, wow. Erica that entire episode, that was Lois. Especially when she first met Clark, to me, that was Lois Lane. She seemed so efficient.
I also laughed at how she tried to peek at him getting changed. Nice. Clark in suit. Goood. THE GLASSES!

Jimmy. Ah, Jimmy. After Sleeper, thats what i wanted to see. I loved the interaction between him and Clark, not to mention his bowtie hehe.

The whole episode, was very Superman.
Clark: I don't give up. Tell me where i can find Lois Lane.
*squeals.* That was so refreshing from hearing him say "Lana Lang,".

Lex. Oh Lex. Evil President Lex. The suit. I have been waiting for so long for that white suit since S1. I'm glad Lionels abscence was addressed as a death, that way it shows he was 'meant' to die, Clark can't blame himself, because this time Lionel died protecting Kara. Brianiac. Oh, my wonderful James Marsters. As wonderful as ever.

Back in the reality, i loved the Clois moment in the DP. As a way to break the tension between them that they weren't sure of, i loved the fact Lois punched Clark in the arm. And the asking him for a drink was a nice echo to the AU, fair enough it was a s friends. But still.
I'm also guessing Brainiac managed to implate himself in Kara somehow, but that will be revelaed.

10/10.
My third this season. WONDERFUL.

To the bolded part, I totally agree.

Aside from Clark's initial guilty statement in the beginning, I've never seen him be so Superman-like in one whole episode before (while still Clark Kent). He was determined, confident and had lost the angst and guilt. I think even after he came back to RW, retained some of that. Instead of insisting to Lois he wanted to spend time alone and brood, he instead went out with her to talk about everything.

Oh yeah, and I also agree about Tom, you could see how happy he was to be playing Clark Kent in this episode.

STFanatic
05-02-2008, 09:57 AM
I liked how when Lois pinned the press pass on Clark, Clark then looked at it and said, "Lois Lane?" Lois said "Just say it was a typo and your name is Louis".

;)

Humdinger
05-02-2008, 10:05 AM
9/10. Really good ep, Tom's directing was superior.

RedKalEL
05-02-2008, 10:06 AM
Everything was awsome the Clois, president luthor, Krypton. Jimmy's wardrom in the AU, the other clark was only in one scene and it was just a kick ass episode

Yasise
05-02-2008, 10:47 AM
Oh. My.
I absolutely. Loved it.
It was wonderful. For the 150th episode, it did not disappoint me. At all..

yeah, it was soooo good. It was a pleasure to watch :D


Tom's acting was wonderful, he seemed more comfortable and happy than i've seen him acting in SV for a while. .

yeah, you could really see that he had fun and that he was enjoying his work again. I'm so happy for him:). Did you see that smile of Clark/Tom in that Jimmy/Clark scene, when they first met - so cute and heartwarming like in the earlier seasons - loved it!

I also laughed at how she tried to peek at him getting changed......

yeah, me, too. It was so funny and those facial expressions of both, Tom's and Erica's - perfect!

The whole episode, was very Superman.. .

So true! It should have been like that in "Sleeper", too.

I'm glad Lionels abscence was addressed as a death, that way it shows he was 'meant' to die, Clark can't blame himself, because this time Lionel died protecting Kara...

yeah, but what's with Jonathan, who was obviously still alive in the AU? What about all those comforting words of Martha and Chloe, that it wasn't Clark's fault??



Oh yeah, and I also agree about Tom, you could see how happy he was to be playing Clark Kent in this episode.

:D

Iluvgreen
05-02-2008, 10:51 AM
I am freaking out!!!!!! It was awsome. It was great. Everything was prefect.

All about Clark
05-02-2008, 11:30 AM
It truely was the best episode of the season for me, my first 10. Loved it, loved it, loved it.

Lex was so evil and clueless he was being taken for a ride. It was sad to see Kara so beat down by the Luthors. And how evil Braniac appeared at the end, wow.

I liked that Tom always makes Clark lighter when he's directing. But I think the story of Clark being outside of what was happening, made him feel less weight on his shoulders and happier to be somewhere. The look he gave when the kid said he was Clark Kent was amazing. Totally upset, shocked, and made sense to him. That Martha and Jonathan would adopt and use the same name that they gave him. And apparently they had more money to go on cruises as well. Nice touches everywhere. And every word of it necessary and it flowed so well. Great episode all the way around.

I really believe this episode lets Clark know he's needed, but those that are closest to him are the ones he hurts the most. This will really have Clark pull away from the closeness he's had with people.

*milica*
05-02-2008, 11:34 AM
The BEST episode!!!Perfect!!!I love it!!!!

TalosTrokair
05-02-2008, 11:53 AM
MUCH better this week. It could have been better, but based on "Sleeper" it's like they hired someone who hasn't been in a coma for the last fifty years to write the story. Well done. Keep it up.. NO SERIOUSLY.. keep it up. No more random writer of the week to screw the story up. Don't let guest directors and guest writers mess with this Series ANYMORE.

Hopeful fan..
Lynch

smallvillelogan
05-02-2008, 12:06 PM
Most of the episode I really liked, but a few times I had problems with it. 8/10.

I like that Clark sees what the world would be like without him. He needed to understand that he is vital to the well-being of the world. I really don't think that we will see him take any steps backwards any more after facing this alternate reality.
I loved the Lois and Clark scenes in this episode, AU or non-AU. I think Welling and Durance have better chemistry than Welling and Kreuk do/did. They really make a fun Lois and Clark couple. It's cool to see Lois infatuated with Clark in the AU, making Clark understand that they indeed may be good for each other. Seeing the scene at the end where Clark and Lois actually go on a DATE(!) was very fun. It's good to see Clark not so down about Lana, but realizing that he and Lois may indeed have great chemistry, and the tension as they were looking at each other in real-time before in the uncomfortable silence, she punched him, was great.
It's cool to see that Lex would destroy the world if Clark wasn't there, but this concept has been hinted at since Season 1 in that episode with Cassandra. The scene of the nuclear bombs hitting various points on the Earth was a recycled effect from that episode six years ago. However, I liked the shot of the bombs rising from the perspective of the farm.
It was also cool to see the key activate like that. Overall, there have been several great tie-ins to past seasons and episodes, providing for great continuity.
However, this episode isn't perfect. First, Clark is moping around at the start of the episode. He doesn't even want to go to Krypton, despite his cousin's plea from the Fortress! That's a Bizarro-like attitude to me. Bizarro says he has given up trying to find Kara back in Gemini. Well, that's similar attitude that Clark had at the beginning of this episode. "I don't want to go to Krypton." -reminded me of a child pouting in the back seat of a car.
Then, what can't Jor-El do anymore? Now he apparently can send people back in time too? And it also looks like he can communicate with Clark, even if Clark is just pouting in his barn. What's the point of the Fortress if Jor-El can communicate with Clark anywhere?
Then, on Krypton, when Clark sends himself to Earth, I'm conflicted about that. Where was Jor-El and Lara? I'm not sure about Clark sending himself to Earth. His parents lovingly sending him from a doomed world to save another is the basis of the entire Superman story. This back-in-time thing is tampering with the very roots of the myth.
Also, why wouldn't have BrainIAC just killed Kara back in time? She, like Clark, has the powers to save the world- though I do like to see that even with Kara on the Earth, without Clark Lex and Fine were still going to spell the world doom. This shows that Clark is more capable of being the world's savior than Kara is. He is more of a superhero than she can be. His purpose here couldn't have been replaced by anybody else, not even somebody nearly as powerful.
Lastly, why did President-Lex conveniently have kryptonite bullets to shoot Clark and Kara? I guess that he could have known that kryptonite is what destroyed their planet, but I doubt it.
Overall, there's some nice elements that progress Clark's journey, but many plot points that are holes and also mess with the very basis of the Superman legacy.

Jaded Wolf
05-02-2008, 12:13 PM
Had to go for an 8/10. For one thing I really wasn't that interested in the episode because I was reading a new issue of WIZARD magazine. That's how bad the taste from last week's episode was. It spoiled this one.

Still, the alternate take on Smallville was good to watch. Tom Welling directing has always been a treat and he does a good job. It's like he gets "it" that other directors don't get.

Time paradox is always tricky because no one has ever time travelled and no one will. So, knowing exactly how a situation will change based on what changes are made in the past is impossible. Fiction writers can only speculate and so can we. No one knows the truth about this. The one thing that constantly bothers me is that as soon as Kara and Braniac time travelled that should have been it for the present timeline of Smallville. It's unlikely the current timeline would continue two more days or two more weeks or however long the gap is between each episode. Once the time travel occured then the timeline would have shifted. The best "real" situation that should have happened was once Braniac and Kara left, Jor-El should have zapped Clark right then and there and showed him the alternate universe and then sent him to Krypton. It would have avoided "Sleeper" and gave a more realistic approach to the time paradox. Again though, since time travel has never been done my point is speculative at best...

Other than that I enjoyed this episode. I wish I would have been more interested but my new magazine was more interesting to me last night. The only other thing that stuck out to me was who still jas milk in glass bottles? That seemed a little cliche for the farmer atmosphere there...

GuardianAngel
05-02-2008, 12:22 PM
Most of the episode I really liked, but a few times I had problems with it. 8/10.

I like that Clark sees what the world would be like without him. He needed to understand that he is vital to the well-being of the world. I really don't think that we will see him take any steps backwards any more after facing this alternate reality.
I loved the Lois and Clark scenes in this episode, AU or non-AU. I think Welling and Durance have better chemistry than Welling and Kreuk do/did. They really make a fun Lois and Clark couple. It's cool to see Lois infatuated with Clark in the AU, making Clark understand that they indeed may be good for each other. Seeing the scene at the end where Clark and Lois actually go on a DATE(!) was very fun. It's good to see Clark not so down about Lana, but realizing that he and Lois may indeed have great chemistry, and the tension as they were looking at each other in real-time before in the uncomfortable silence, she punched him, was great.

I loved the interaction between Tom and Erica, too. A very nice tribute to the first two Superman movies.

It's cool to see that Lex would destroy the world if Clark wasn't there, but this concept has been hinted at since Season 1 in that episode with Cassandra. The scene of the nuclear bombs hitting various points on the Earth was a recycled effect from that episode six years ago. However, I liked the shot of the bombs rising from the perspective of the farm.

Fortunately the writers opted for cotinuity and I didn't mind the apocalyptic scenario. Also, Clark isn't aware of Cassandra's vision about Lex.

Then, what can't Jor-El do anymore? Now he apparently can send people back in time too? And it also looks like he can communicate with Clark, even if Clark is just pouting in his barn. What's the point of the Fortress if Jor-El can communicate with Clark anywhere?

Jor-el is stored in a fortress which has the knowledge of the 28 known galaxies so yes, I suppose time-travel and moving to AU can be among it. I see no problem with it.

Then, on Krypton, when Clark sends himself to Earth, I'm conflicted about that. Where was Jor-El and Lara? I'm not sure about Clark sending himself to Earth. His parents lovingly sending him from a doomed world to save another is the basis of the entire Superman story. This back-in-time thing is tampering with the very roots of the myth.

I believe the scene we saw in "Memoria" took place, but BRAINIAC stopped the ship and probably killed Jor-el and Lara (they wouldn't have lived much longer in any case). Then he took Kal-el out of the ship to kill him. But being rather smart I'm sure BRAINIAC also tampered with Kal-el's ship to put him at odds with Jor-el AI in case his plan failed. It's the first time I see a glimpse of an explanation for that cryptic message we heard in "Rosetta".

Also, why wouldn't have BrainIAC just killed Kara back in time? She, like Clark, has the powers to save the world- though I do like to see that even with Kara on the Earth, without Clark Lex and Fine were still going to spell the world doom. This shows that Clark is more capable of being the world's savior than Kara is. He is more of a superhero than she can be. His purpose here couldn't have been replaced by anybody else, not even somebody nearly as powerful.

This is discussed in the spoilers and theories sections.

Lastly, why did President-Lex conveniently have kryptonite bullets to shoot Clark and Kara? I guess that he could have known that kryptonite is what destroyed their planet, but I doubt it.
Overall, there's some nice elements that progress Clark's journey, but many plot points that are holes and also mess with the very basis of the Superman legacy.

He told Kara he had that special gun in case she betrayed him. By living with her I'm sure he pretty knew her weakness or Fine could have told him.

kryptonaidxh
05-02-2008, 12:55 PM
Most of the episode I really liked, but a few times I had problems with it. 8/10.

I like that Clark sees what the world would be like without him. He needed to understand that he is vital to the well-being of the world. I really don't think that we will see him take any steps backwards any more after facing this alternate reality.
I loved the Lois and Clark scenes in this episode, AU or non-AU. I think Welling and Durance have better chemistry than Welling and Kreuk do/did. They really make a fun Lois and Clark couple. It's cool to see Lois infatuated with Clark in the AU, making Clark understand that they indeed may be good for each other. Seeing the scene at the end where Clark and Lois actually go on a DATE(!) was very fun.

Overall, there's some nice elements that progress Clark's journey, but many plot points that are holes and also mess with the very basis of the Superman legacy.


yes, definetely that´s what I enjoyed the most:all Clark and Lois scenes, also Lex as the big villian that wants to dominate the world, very iconic, Clark and Kara scenes were great too, a real tribute of the movies.:D

superpal1
05-02-2008, 01:14 PM
Much better than last week. Loved the play between Lois and Clark--makes me wish more that the romance between Clark and Lois heats up soon. I gave the episode an eight. I would have loved to have seen Jorel in this episode. Since we didn't see him, I was hoping for some reason to be given. Such as Brianiac taking his parents out or something along those lines. Jorel not being there to see his son off makes no sense. Until Clark flies though no ten marks for me.

All about Clark
05-02-2008, 01:23 PM
Then, on Krypton, when Clark sends himself to Earth, I'm conflicted about that. Where was Jor-El and Lara? I'm not sure about Clark sending himself to Earth. His parents lovingly sending him from a doomed world to save another is the basis of the entire Superman story. This back-in-time thing is tampering with the very roots of the myth.

I'm sure Braniac killed Jor-el and Lara, which wouldn't have mattered since they were going to be dead moments later anyway. This act of Braniac's probably allowed time for Kara to catch up to him.

[B]
This shows that Clark is more capable of being the world's savior than Kara is. He is more of a superhero than she can be. His purpose here couldn't have been replaced by anybody else, not even somebody nearly as powerful.[/QUOTE]

This is very true. Clark is stronger in heart than Kara. Not to mention that Clark has Jor-el. But having Jonathan/Martha as parents instead of the Luthors probably had an effect as well.

[B]
Lastly, why did President-Lex conveniently have kryptonite bullets to shoot Clark and Kara? I guess that he could have known that kryptonite is what destroyed their planet, but I doubt it. [/QUOTE]

Clark learned about Kryptonite and shared it with his parents, I think the same would be true for Kara. And Lex still experimented with kryptonite (the glove) and I'm sure the freaks, as well. It makes sense that he would devise a way to protect himself from a powerful Kara. Lex never liked being the weak one in the family.

PaireSupporter
05-02-2008, 01:23 PM
I love this episode and loved all the Clois scenes

borednow
05-02-2008, 01:40 PM
9- the stuff on Krypton seemed a bit rushed and clunky but otherwise almost perfect in all regards.

wolverine316
05-02-2008, 01:58 PM
Brilliant ep. Virtual tie with Descent for best of season. Tom made the rest of this season's directors look like monkeys

Girlpower888
05-02-2008, 02:18 PM
Brilliant ep. Virtual tie with Descent for best of season. Tom made the rest of this season's directors look like monkeys


I was really impressed with Tom Welling's directing style, as well. He did a fanastic job. With that skill, he has a lot more options in Hollywood after this show is over.

This was definitely my favorite episode of the season.

I love everyone's insights into the timeline. It makes sense that Brainiac probably would have killed Jor-El and Kara when he was trying to kill baby Kal-El.

I was definitely disappointed that neither Martha or Jonathon Kent appeared. I think it was always clear that they couldn't have kept the farm going all of those years without Clark doing the work of a whole crew of men. But in this AU they conveniently were out of town on a cruise. That's not their nature to do, and I'm sure they couldn't have afforded it without Clark as a farm hand, either!

I assume it just wouldn't have been worth it to bring them back for an episode that wasn't about them. Having them show up for just a scene or two might have cost too much. But imagine the emotional impact of Clark seeing Jonathon alive again, and Jonathon not evening knowing Clark! That would have been so cool.

I loved all the interplay between Clark and Lois. For the first time I could see the promise of something between them. Though it still seems impossible that he could hide his identity from her once he's Superman, since she's always known him without a disguise and alternate, uber-geeky personality.


I loved this episode. Can't wait to see the rest of the season! I sure hope that Chloe comes back next year!

All about Clark
05-02-2008, 02:38 PM
Being that Clark was a bit destructive, like the truck rolled over, the ship explosion, all the clothes destroyed, I got to believe that he was an expensive child to have. It makes perfect sense that the Kents would be better off financially even if they didn't have Clark helping on the farm.

MetroGirl06
05-02-2008, 03:38 PM
This episode was AWESOME! Such an improvement from last week. 10/10

Wow, first ten I've given in a long time :)

wolverine316
05-02-2008, 04:03 PM
My fear with this show is that the next ep is going to be garbage. As it goes with this show one great ep followed by a piece of steaming @$#%.

madcatlady
05-02-2008, 04:28 PM
I cracked up when Kara called him "Clark" when they were on Krypton. It took forever for her to stop calling him "Kal-El", but now they're on the planet where the name came from, she remembers to call him by his adopted name. She's a bit Bizarro sometimes...

I too am frightened next week's ep will not meet expectations.

TracyLee
05-02-2008, 05:30 PM
quote=Mar-El;3759505]Without giving any plot points away Thrill_Seeker: This episode, in my opinion, is the most memorable of the season. It's definitely in my top 10 list for the entire series. I don't know how others feel, but I think its one of those episodes that just appeals to everybody.

Great job directing, Tom Welling![/quote]


This is my first time doing this, so I hope I am doing it right. I also hope I am not typing on top of someone else's comments (see above).
Anyway, considering Tom directed the episode, he was I believe in almost every scene. He did great job, directing and acting. It was so great to hear Terrence Stamp as Jor-El again. He gives such power in these scenes, even though he is just a voice. I hope we "hear" more of him. I also hope the producers can have at least one episode where he is physically in a scene w/Tom.

This episode also brought home the sad fact of Michael Rosebaum's leaving. He is an incredible actor and I wish him all the best.

That's it. And, in reading this I realized I just said "hope" four times. So you are all "hoping" I will just be quiet. I love reading all your comments.

owensj1
05-02-2008, 05:47 PM
I ended up giving this episode a 7. I really like the basic plot and the gradual wrap-up of past episodes but for me the details just didn't work.

Although it was a great idea for Clark to see the world without him the world represented last night was not so bad. Most of the core characters were fine. Chloe, Lana, and the Kent's were happy. Lois and Jimmy where more like their comic book selves and for all we know Lionel died happy protecting Kyra secret. That leaves Lex who was basically the same with the big exception of being president and destroying the world which or course was the big "Reason". I just found that by the end of the episode I didn't really care. I liked the recreation of the Cassandra prophesy but really why would the President of the United states be in Smallville even if he was from there. And why was there no security at his home office. I guess we are supposed to believe that the SV Luthor Mansion is like Bush's house in Crawford TX but I'm sure the secret service would be over that place and if Bush were to do what Lex was doing he would not be doing it from Crawford.

JK and MK missing was really the low point for me. My favorite part of SV has always been Clark's relationship with his parents and last night reminded me that the family stuff is over. And just having the Kent's happily off on a cruise was not enough. If Clark had never known them then he would not be the man he is today. This very important fact used to be the core story line of Smallville. Clark was who he was in large part because of the Kent's and Lex was who he was because of Lionel and Lillian. To abandon such a fundamental plot line now is crazy. All we got last night was that AU Clark couldn't save the world because he got shot by a kryptonite bullet. So what. And how does that reinforce the fact that Clark can never become Superman without knowing the Kent's.

I think if this had been a two part episode and more attention was paid to Clark discovering that not only is the world worse off without him but that he would not be the same person without knowing the people in Smallville I would have given it a 10.

Krypton935
05-02-2008, 06:30 PM
10!!! That was an amazing episode! It completely blew me away! Everything was fantastic and it is now added to my top 150 favorite episodes!!! ;)

sdcheesehead
05-02-2008, 08:01 PM
Wish I could give this a 10, but my tv kept on getting interrupted (tornado warnings) so I missed probably all the awesome parts, but what I did see (and hear) was very, very entertaining. Can't wait for it to come on re-runs, so I can hear the whole thing. Gave it a 8, for what I saw. Look forward to next week :)

superkgirl
05-02-2008, 09:07 PM
I loved it especially the Clois scenes;):p:D

SV'S_immortal_hero
05-02-2008, 09:39 PM
i give it a 9/10 simply because the only thing i can critisize about this ep is that it showed lex still cared and that he still wanted to help people without being asked i.e lana, "sleeper" i can forget as jimmy asked for lexs help for chloe

so now we have 2 eps to go before we finally say goodbye to lex and hes still doing good deeds without being asked

do3mire
05-02-2008, 09:43 PM
I give it a 6. It was not bad but it felt disjointed to me. The whole AU seemed pointless. I was particularly disappointed with the Kara/Brainiac resolution. It was too little. After the drama of Veritas, you'd think they'd ratchet up the action and suspense more.

Things I got from the AU: Lois acting a lot like Chloe. Down to the scoobying together and all. If the TPB are test-driving the possibility of writing Chloe off and replacing her with Lois in Chloe's role in S8, I think they may have succeeded. They are a very attractive couple. I still prefer AM's Chloe, though. I don't like the way ED scrunches her face. But, that's just me. And, Clark letting both Chloe and Lana go. He's happy for them. See what I mean about the test drive. It's like a testing the waters for S8 without Lex, Chloe, and Lana.

I'm intrigued by a couple of things: The first is Brainiac's destruction and what it means for Lana and of course, Clana. The other is Chloe's dialog and reactions in the non AU part of the show. The "I need you" foreshadows something, imo. And, I can't help think it's something bad for the character.

Servayne
05-02-2008, 11:37 PM
I enjoyed the episode. I don't think it was the best of the series, but it was really good. TW did a great job directing and the show gave everyone a little glimpse of something with every character. It also showed the importance Clark is to the world - which is the huge part of it all, imo.

Theshadow129x
05-03-2008, 01:30 AM
i gave it a six because it was rushed and unorganized.

Spirit Detective
05-03-2008, 02:40 AM
Apocalypse negating portions of Memoria bugs me a bit. While the Ship's brain and key could still be there, the fact that Jor-El and Lara aren't makes me uneasy. I hope we find out more about what exactly went on after Brainiac and Kara flew away in Veritas. Obviously the Red Sun strips Kara of her powers, so she must have found another way to enter Krypton.

clarkdent
05-03-2008, 04:17 AM
Apocalypse---Very good episode except for one little detail. Clark places baby Kal-El into the ship BUT where was Jor-El and Lara? How could they not be present?? I noticed that the music used in the scene of the rocket leaving Kryton was also used in a few Lois and Clark episodes.

haltoe
05-03-2008, 09:05 AM
I don't know about this talk that Clark is stonger in heart than Kara and more capable of being the world's savior. Lately he's been dithering like a Kryptonian Hamlet. Not that I mind the "It's a Wonderful Life" scenes. That's always a good story. But we still saw Clark as indecisive as Hamlet both before the "It's a Wonderful Life" scenes and after. Even on the life and death situation on Krypton, Clark is still dithering and Kara is the one who takes action.

Kara's problems comes whenever she's faced with saying no to a loved one. First it was Zor-el and then the "President Luthor" who was family to her. Other than that Kara is pretty good at action scenes such as when she's rescued Jimmy Olsen and Clark.

If Clark is "more capable of being the world's savior" it's because that on Smallville Clark is the star. Kara, as much as I enjoy watching her, can't be more than a sidekick.

cma_454
05-03-2008, 10:10 AM
Apocalypse---Very good episode except for one little detail. Clark places baby Kal-El into the ship BUT where was Jor-El and Lara? How could they not be present?? I noticed that the music used in the scene of the rocket leaving Kryton was also used in a few Lois and Clark episodes.

The scene of the ship leaving as Krypton blows up, is also very similar to the same scene in Lois & Clark.

babyluthor
05-03-2008, 02:12 PM
I loved this episode. Might be the best episode of the season so far in my opinion. This is one of those episodes that can be most appreciated by the loyal fans of the show who have seen it from the beginning and know everything about it. It was great to see the new interactions between characters in the same, yet completely different environment.

I liked pretty much everything in this episode. I think Tom did a great job directing. The only thing I think could have been better was if they included a transition of Clark using the key to get to Krypton. That part seemed kinda quick.

I thought the special effects in this episode were pretty good. I like the attention to detail on things such as the kryptonite handcuffs for Kara.

I didn't mind that Lana was not in the episode. It would have been amazing to have Johnathan and Martha in there, but that would be too good to be true.

I loved the scene at the end with Lex and Clark in the barn when Lex presents him with an opportunity to help Lana, but Clark refuses because he knows he can not trust Lex no matter what.

Overall awesome episode. 10!

whogeek
05-03-2008, 07:28 PM
I thought it was a good episode, but it would have been better as a two part episode, and devote more to the Krypton scenes, prehaps bring back Helen Slater for the Krypton scenes, but over all a good episode

TheLeague
05-03-2008, 10:59 PM
some people are idiots who clearly dont listen

JOR-EL AND LARA HAD ALREADY LAUNCHED THE SHIP BRAINIAC HAD INTERCEPTED IT DUH!

:mad:

DreadShamus
05-04-2008, 06:13 PM
9. Very satisfying after last weeks. Great follow-up for Veritas. Can't wait for the next couple episodes.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

I thought it was a good episode, but it would have been better as a two part episode, and devote more to the Krypton scenes, prehaps bring back Helen Slater for the Krypton scenes, but over all a good episode

Yeah. The only reason I didn't give this episode a 10 was how disappointed I was with how quickly they jumped through the whole Krypton visit and Brainiac fight.

Alexander III
05-04-2008, 08:04 PM
9, awesome!!

Welling_is_pretty
05-04-2008, 08:14 PM
This episode was pretty much fantastic and epic and wonderful (and Tom did a great job directing). There were only a few little things that kept me from giving it a 10 so I went with 9.

But on the whole this was pure Smallville at it's best.

Sweetie
05-04-2008, 09:55 PM
Great episode.Tom Welling did a good job directing & staring on this episode.I loved how he was so supermanished in AU.MR was fantastic as usual(I'm going to miss him).It was a little bit rushed,may be a 2 part episode would have been neccessary.

superman2001
05-04-2008, 11:54 PM
i thought the Episode, was Awesome, i really did enjoy it, my favorite scene, in the episode, is when Clark, saved Lois, from the Guards, and i really did enjoy the scene, where Clark, went back to Krypton, to stop Brainiac, i wonder what happen to Kara, at the end of the Episode, i can't wait to find out, i can't wait to see the next episode, it is going to great.

jesslang
05-06-2008, 08:03 AM
Loved it !!!!!!!!!!!

Tatiana
05-06-2008, 10:08 AM
I loved the episode, I thought Tom did a great job directing an episode that had so much to tell and a lot of action at different levels. I didn't think it was rushed, it ran smoothly and it left points very clear to me. I also liked the cliffhanger at the end, can't wait until Thursday. One of my favorite shots is when Clark and Chloe are talking in the barn and Clark is holding the key to the Fortress and it starts shining, the camera goes around from his face to Chloe's and then back at him from her perspective, I thought that was very artistic and creative. It let us see what was happening from both of their points of view. I gave it a 10!

Izzysand
05-06-2008, 11:23 AM
I give this episode a 9.5 only because I wanted Clark to be in Krypton longer, no appearance by Jor-El, Lara, Jonathan or Martha... Funny but did anyone notice that he did not even mentioned Pete in this AU and his life was changed by knowing Clark's secret. But overall excellent episode, could have been a two part ep. I love it.. I always love a pro active clark and this is what I was given. Great JOB TW and MR as always. MR You will be missed in this show.. You are the one and only Lex Luthor to me.

Hopefulsuicide
05-06-2008, 05:44 PM
This episode was good. It was entertaining, it was Clois filled, Tom Welling was on top form IMO.

But it wasn't THAT great. In fact, after watching it, i find myself with a heavy heart and the urge to stop expecting Smallville to ever be great again.

1. It should have been a two parter. Trying to fit a really interesting AU story, that dealt with issues that had been around since season 1, finally saw Clark becoming more superman and having Clois as the main love interest... it should have lasted longer. I mean the AU part was only for about half the episode anyway... it just wasn't long enough and they packed so much in i didnt know where to put it.

2. There was absolutely no emotional turmoil within the AU. Clark finds out his father is alive! I don't know if anyone out there has ever lost a father, but there is no way he would have just gone 'oh, that's nice.' He would have moved heaven and earth to see him again, whether he remembered who he was or not. I can understand him simply being happy about Lana and Chloe, it makes sense cause i think his feelings for both of them are that it just won't work out anymore. But to find out the father you lost is alive and do nothing is an utter dissapointment.

3. Clark is goes to Krypton and he doesn't try and meet his parents? Why did he have to show up just at the last minute anyway. If he was going back in time he could have gone back as far as he wanted and met his parents. I suppose people will say he was trying to not meddle with time, but it would have been nice to see him say something about that.

4. all the acting other than LV's and TW's was low IMO... especially MR... i've never seen him put in such little effort. and i don't really understand why Lex took time out of his quest to visit Clark at the barn... seemed like they just wanted to stick a Lex scene at the end and couldnt come up with a better excuse than 'Lana'

Overall, i DID enjoy the episode, and as much as a lot about it bugged me, i still gave it an 8. I'm so so tired of Smallville NEARLY being great, but not quite making it.

Yasise
05-07-2008, 02:47 AM
This episode was good. It was entertaining, it was Clois filled, Tom Welling was on top form IMO.

But it wasn't THAT great. In fact, after watching it, i find myself with a heavy heart and the urge to stop expecting Smallville to ever be great again.. .

yes it was a lot more entertaining than the last episodes, actually I found some scenes quite funny :), e.g. while Clark changes his clothes Lois wants to sneak a peek....their faces, their looks, sooo funny! Tom really was in top form this episode, he also gave us one of his famous smiles in his first scene with Jimmy (my heart melted...*sigh*)

1. It should have been a two parter. Trying to fit a really interesting AU story, that dealt with issues that had been around since season 1, finally saw Clark becoming more superman and having Clois as the main love interest... it should have lasted longer. I mean the AU part was only for about half the episode anyway... it just wasn't long enough and they packed so much in i didnt know where to put it.

yeah, that would have been amazing. A two parter would have been more appropriate for this episode's story. It was just too packed and felt rushed sometimes.

2. There was absolutely no emotional turmoil within the AU. Clark finds out his father is alive! I don't know if anyone out there has ever lost a father, but there is no way he would have just gone 'oh, that's nice.' He would have moved heaven and earth to see him again, whether he remembered who he was or not. I can understand him simply being happy about Lana and Chloe, it makes sense cause i think his feelings for both of them are that it just won't work out anymore. But to find out the father you lost is alive and do nothing is an utter dissapointment.

totally agreed. If I would have the chance to meet my parents again, I would not leave before I could have seen them, talked to them - no way!
Actually I was wondering, why he didn't start to blame himself again, like "so it IS my fault, that my dad has died in the real world."

3. Clark is goes to Krypton and he doesn't try and meet his parents? Why did he have to show up just at the last minute anyway. If he was going back in time he could have gone back as far as he wanted and met his parents. I suppose people will say he was trying to not meddle with time, but it would have been nice to see him say something about that.

right again, but I think, he wasn't able to choose the exact point of time for his arrival. I think it was chosen by Jor-El or the circumstances???
But actually it WOULD have been very nice to see them together - heartbraking though, because he would have known that they would be dead in a few seconds, but at least, he could have helped them to be able to put him into that ship.
Like others commented on that, how is Clark supposed to have his memories of Lara and Jor-El putting him into that ship, when now he was the one, who did it?? So confusing actually!

4. all the acting other than LV's and TW's was low IMO... especially MR... i've never seen him put in such little effort. and i don't really understand why Lex took time out of his quest to visit Clark at the barn... seemed like they just wanted to stick a Lex scene at the end and couldnt come up with a better excuse than 'Lana'

As I mentioned above, Tom did a great job in this episode, his acting was at last as passionate as it used to be in the earlier seasons.
But I'm sorry, Laura's acting was still not sooooo goos, IMO. Just the same as usual, not really much convincing acting, IMHO.
Michael was o.k. I think.


Overall, i DID enjoy the episode, and as much as a lot about it bugged me, i still gave it an 8. I'm so so tired of Smallville NEARLY being great, but not quite making it.

Yes, I enjoyed this episode, too and I hope that the next two episodes are going to be like that, at least. Please don't give us one more "Sleeper". This season had enough of those, IMO.

Hopefulsuicide
05-07-2008, 07:25 PM
:lol: yeah, we've definately had enough of those for a lifetime

i don't think LV was superb... i think it's just that i was dreading seeing her again after veritas, because i hated her so much in that episode, but i didnt hate her so i figured she must have done a better job :rotfl:

Yasise
05-08-2008, 02:25 AM
:lol: yeah, we've definately had enough of those for a lifetime

i don't think LV was superb... i think it's just that i was dreading seeing her again after veritas, because i hated her so much in that episode, but i didnt hate her so i figured she must have done a better job :rotfl:

well, maybe you got used to her so you don't mind her bad acting anymore?
I personally don't hate her, that would be too much of an emotion for her, IMO, but I'm not indifferent towards her either. I just don't like her acting. She might be a nice person in real life but in reel life she's only nice - nice to look at - and nothing more. IMO she hasn't improved at all. Maybe she was slightly "better" than in the episodes before due to Tom's directing. Sorry, but she has no talent at all. She doesn't convince me as Kara at all. Scenes with her are boring me to death, but the scenes with Tom are saving me again :D

Hopefulsuicide
05-08-2008, 03:53 AM
:lol: yeah it's a strange sensation. after 5 long years of hating Lana, maybe i just dont have the capacity to hate another one

Yasise
05-08-2008, 07:04 AM
:lol: yeah it's a strange sensation. after 5 long years of hating Lana, maybe i just dont have the capacity to hate another one

oh I so much understand you :lol:

All about Clark
05-08-2008, 03:17 PM
1. It should have been a two parter.

2. There was absolutely no emotional turmoil within the AU. Clark finds out his father is alive! I don't know if anyone out there has ever lost a father, but there is no way he would have just gone 'oh, that's nice.' He would have moved heaven and earth to see him again.

3. Clark is goes to Krypton and he doesn't try and meet his parents? Why did he have to show up just at the last minute anyway. If he was going back in time he could have gone back as far as he wanted and met his parents. I suppose people will say he was trying to not meddle with time, but it would have been nice to see him say something about that.

1. I agree this should have been a two-parter to elaborate, but I don't believe it took too much away from the episode.

2. I thought that Clark showed enough excitement at the prospect, I didn't need him to hunt him down. Sometimes people are just not available. Clark's purpose was to see if loved ones were safe and he knew his parents were.

3. This AU was created by Jor-el and the time being returned was likely selected by Jor-el as well, I don't believe Clark had the capability of altering the time the father selected. But I really believed if they were to do it right, they could have showed mom and pop knocked out or dead lying near the ship in the fortress and allowed Clark to show concern for them. However, Braniac wasn't much for waiting for a family reunion either. I understand the way it was handled. It could have been handled better if it was a 2-parter, but I understand their reasons for not choosing that direction.

Hopefulsuicide
05-08-2008, 06:30 PM
to your number too, i don't think your applying enough empathy when your thinking about this...

Clark lost his father, he has extreme guilt issues about it. he has had no councilling (on screen) regarding it, and has not dealt with it properly.

i know 3 men, his age, who lost their fathers, who would all fall to peices and become blubbering desperate fools just for one more chance to see them, talk to them, hug them... and there is absolutely no shame in that.

in our world, when somebodies dies, they stay dead. you can wish and wish and wish for another chance to say all the things you never got to say, to smell their unique smell, to hear the tone of their voice and the way it changes when they laugh, to have them look at you, right in the eye and know they are thinking and breathing and living... but you wont get it

i can feel all that right now, and it just makes me burst... and i've never even lost anyone, let alone a parent, let alone one as wonderful as jonathon kent

Clark getting the chance to see his father again and not taking it! THAT is the single most ridiculous moment of Smallville for me.

the writers have no heart, no passion for the characters, they don't care about anything but making money

kryptonianPOKEMON
05-09-2008, 03:53 AM
Oufff Tired of reading those loooong opinions mates...Simply put it ist just a wonderfull episode that i liked it toooo much :)

Hopefulsuicide
05-09-2008, 07:31 PM
you think that's long? :lol: i consider myself a medium poster... believe me, i know how you feel, i loose track of so many threads because of page long posts :rotfl:

kryptonianPOKEMON
05-11-2008, 01:48 PM
HEHE thats so true:)

Zod77
05-14-2008, 02:30 PM
You guys are so lucky.... I´m in Mexico, I won´t be watching this episode till this next Tuesday, while you guys will be watching the season finale this Thursday!!:mad:

smallville0001
09-19-2008, 01:17 PM
I loved this episode. It show why Smallville-and the world needs Clark.:)

Hey i'm about a year behind you lot cos i'm in England. This episode eared for me when season 8 beagn-a couple of days between. I have to wait about 5/6 months before i see season 8.

WellingFan
11-17-2008, 07:59 PM
The Krypton sequence. Undoubtedly the greatest moment in the history of the show. SENSATIONAL! Clark sending himself to Earth lol and the shot of Krypton exploding and the ship zooming by accompanied by Mark Snow's exciting music. Thats entertainment.:D

RaniaLovesClois
06-21-2009, 04:59 AM
10/10 Loved it

Nimkong
03-04-2010, 08:55 PM
Its a great episode.Liked how clark went back in time,lex being the preisedet is awsome and the endings tight