Lionel had Isobel kill Genevieve Teague

[xrayvision]

So are we now to assume that Lionel purposely sent Jason to China for the stone because he knew Lana would follow him? He not only sent Jason, but financed Lana's trip to go there, knowing that Isobel would re-surface & kill Genevieve. Damn, what an MB.

[oldblackmagick]

well...he hoped anyways...but i think there is more to it than what we know right now...like maybe lex's mom had something to do with the deaths...im not too convinced she was so "good" anyways:p

[rocana]

Well, I dont think they blamed their deaths on Lionel, only Edward Teague by poisoning... Lionel would've probably taken Genevieve out at the same time, but Lana took care of that for him.

[Vergon6]

Isobel would have resurfaced regardless. "Sacred" was several episodes before "Commencement", so I am not sure what the connection between Lionel and Genevieve's death is. And as it was pointed out, he was blamed for Edward Teague's death, not Genevieve's.

[MidgardDragon]

Speculation on the part of one character and a "claim" of evidence we never saw is *not* proof that Lionel actually did these things.

[kp1984]

I never remember hearing Jason dad was dead.

[alienkinfolk]

Speculation on the part of one character and a "claim" of evidence we never saw is *not* proof that Lionel actually did these things.

yeah. We can't assume Swan's daughter knew anything beyond her own hatred of the Luthors

[Vergon6]

Speculation on the part of one character and a "claim" of evidence we never saw is *not* proof that Lionel actually did these things.
Yeah, it was just speculation by Patricia Swann. She blamed him for her father's death, but I am not sure if it was because of anyone. I don't recall which episode it was when Dr. Swann was announced dead. I think many people suspect Lionel had something to do with the death of the Queens, but as for Edward Teague, who really knows. Although Lionel nearly poisoned her himself if I remember correctly, but gave her the anecdote at the last second.

[xrayvision]

yeah. We can't assume Swan's daughter knew anything beyond her own hatred of the Luthors

Now that you bring that up, I did think that Patricia was missing some info. I don't even think Lionel killed Dr. Swann. She had no proof of it. Edward Teague may have killed him. Remember how infatuated his wife was with the stones. Also, Edward was alive post season 4. It was after Lionel awoke from his "Jor-El possession coma" that he killed Edward, if it was Lionel who killed him. Remember what Lex told Lana in Commncement about Edward Teague being a powerful lawyer who would come after her if he found out Lana was the one who killed Genevieve.

Maybe Lionel did kill Edward, but as revenge for Edward killing Dr. Swann (if he was the one who killed Swann). This is all just speculation though. I would like these to be answered though, and it seems like it may happen as Lionel's role is getting bigger again (thankfully).

[savannah]

So are we now to assume that Lionel purposely sent Jason to China for the stone because he knew Lana would follow him? He not only sent Jason, but financed Lana's trip to go there, knowing that Isobel would re-surface & kill Genevieve. Damn, what an MB.

Good tie in he really is on the dark side!

[JLedge]

I never remember hearing Jason dad was dead.

Exactly what I was thinking. Last we heard of him was in the Season 4 Finale, and he was alive then.

It seems sort of strange that he's now dead.

As far as the Lionel/Isobel connection, I don't think we can even assume there is one . . . YET.

As far as we know, Isobel killed Gevevieve simply because she swore she would when she was burned at the stake.

If Isobel is somehow connected to Veritas, I think it would be AWESOME, but I'm not sure if they're going in that direction or not.

We can always hope!!! :D

[Dannyblue1]

Here's the thing. Patricia said she had proof that Lionel had killed all of those people. And Lionel believed her enough to try to make a deal with her. (Well, to pretend to make a deal and then double cross her.) So he must have believed there was a chance she actually did have proof. And there could only be possible proof if he actually did it.

After all, this wouldn't be the first time Lionel committed murder. He killed his own mother and father, for goodness sakes. Why should we be shocked that he killed the other members of Veritas?

[xrayvision]

Or maybe Lionel knew something about the "proof". Maybe he knew that she was all wrong but that the "proof" was very dangerous and could have gotten her killed. After all, he had a chance to do it, but unlike Lex he didn't. He didn't do it because her lawyer would have known, but even if he could have gotten away with it, I still think he wouldn't have killed her.

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If Isobel is somehow connected to Veritas, I think it would be AWESOME, but I'm not sure if they're going in that direction or not.

Well, my original statement didn't insinuate that she was involved with Veritas, but that Lionel knew that she would kill Genevieve and used Isobel by sending Lana off for the stone so he wouldn't be directly linked to Genevieve's death. In Forever, he even told Genevieve that Isobel vowed to kill Gertrude's descendants.

[Dannyblue1]

Or maybe Lionel knew something about the "proof". Maybe he knew that she was all wrong but that the "proof" was very dangerous and could have gotten her killed.

I don't think so. Lionel didn't seem to care two figs about Patricia personally. So I don't see why he would try to protect her.

Lionel has never been a saint. He is, let's face it, a murderer. Just because he's decided he wants to be good now doesn't change that fact. As we know, he has done some very bad things over the years. And I think he is still capable of doing very bad things if he convinces himself it for a good reason.

[Vergon6]

I just checked back in on "Sacred" and at the start of the episode it is announced on the television that Dr. Swann had died, but no other details were available at the time. So we don't know what the circumstances of his death were. Perhaps we will find out in "Veritas"

[xrayvision]

We do know that the day Swann died was the same day the key was sent to him by mail. It seems like he was expecting something to happen to him and wanted to deliver the key to Clark before someone else could find it.

[litew8]

Isobel would have resurfaced regardless. "Sacred" was several episodes before "Commencement", so I am not sure what the connection between Lionel and Genevieve's death is. And as it was pointed out, he was blamed for Edward Teague's death, not Genevieve's.True. Remember Lionel actually did try and kill Genevieve himself - when he gave her that poisoned wine. But saved her shortly after with an antidote.

[Zooks]

lionel told mrs. teague that lana was chosen one and that he gave her the crystal that he had kept. he lied to her in order to lead her to Isobel, who killed her immediately. Not his fault, but sending Lana... and indirectly Clark to China is... As is trying to kill Jason.

[Odysseus]

So are we now to assume that Lionel purposely sent Jason to China for the stone because he knew Lana would follow him? He not only sent Jason, but financed Lana's trip to go there, knowing that Isobel would re-surface & kill Genevieve. Damn, what an MB.

I wouldn't be surprised. I mean think about it this way...

The trip to China occured in "Sacred," the exact SAME episode where Dr. Swann died. It's pretty easy to imagine Lionel having Swann killed and then immediately making a move against his next set of opponents, the Teague family.

He was probably hoping Isobel would be revived upon arrival (which she was), and hoped that she would succeed in her quest to wipe out Genevieve and Jason's family.

[litew8]

lionel told mrs. teague that lana was chosen one and that he gave her the crystal that he had kept. he lied to her in order to lead her to Isobel, who killed her immediately. Not his fault, but sending Lana... and indirectly Clark to China is... As is trying to kill Jason.I think you might have a point there. Lionel did send Mrs. Teague to Lana's place in search of the stone. But did Lionel know that Lana was possessed by the witch that wanted to kill Mrs. Teague?

Perhaps Lionel did know about the witch inside of Lana - because Lex knew (?) previously from the China trip.

[JLedge]

I think you might have a point there. Lionel did send Mrs. Teague to Lana's place in search of the stone. But did Lionel know that Lana was possessed by the witch that wanted to kill Mrs. Teague?

Good question. I always assumed he knew, becuase he knew Lana was Isobel's descendant.

Oh, I just remembered something. He did know. In "Sacred," when he and Lana were talking about Gertrude and the stones, Lana said, "Isobel's looking for them, too." and Lionel said, "Yes, and she's working through you - using you as a vessel" or something like that.

Yeah, he totally knew. :D

[xrayvision]

Perhaps Lionel did know about the witch inside of Lana - because Lex knew (?) previously from the China trip.

Between these 2 lines said by Lionel in Forever, I have no doubt that he knew about the possession:

Lionel: I gave it to her for the same reason I gave her that map to the temple. She is the chosen one, and we all know that!

Lionel: I wouldn't underestimate her, Genevieve. Don't forget Lana Lang's ancestor pledged that she would revenge your family.

[Odysseus]

Between these 2 lines said by Lionel in Forever, I have no doubt that he knew about the possession:

Lionel: I gave it to her for the same reason I gave her that map to the temple. She is the chosen one, and we all know that!

Lionel: I wouldn't underestimate her, Genevieve. Don't forget Lana Lang's ancestor pledged that she would revenge your family.

Yeah, he definitely knew what would happen. He was goading Mrs. Teague and Jason on, so that Isobel would slaughter them, and he and Lex could then escape from that cabin.

[xrayvision]

lionel told mrs. teague that lana was chosen one and that he gave her the crystal that he had kept. he lied to her in order to lead her to Isobel, who killed her immediately. Not his fault, but sending Lana... and indirectly Clark to China is... As is trying to kill Jason.

I think the following quote by Lionel in Lucy is interesting:

"Let’s talk about games. You hire someone to travel to China to search for an ancient artifact. He finds it, he steals it, but he keeps it for himself. Then you have to steal it back from him. You’ve turned hot potato into an art form, son."

I think Lionel was the one who turned hot potato into an art form. He's the one who gave everyone maps and stood back as they all turned on each other.

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The trip to China occured in "Sacred," the exact SAME episode where Dr. Swann died. It's pretty easy to imagine Lionel having Swann killed and then immediately making a move against his next set of opponents, the Teague family.


This is a very interesting observation. It seems too coincidental that it happened that way.

[Vergon6]

True. Remember Lionel actually did try and kill Genevieve himself - when he gave her that poisoned wine. But saved her shortly after with an antidote.
Right, but I am not sure his intention was to send Lana to China so she would end up killing Genevieve Teague as Isobel sometime in the future. Unless it was meant to head his bets.

He could have easily done it himself, which is proven by his ease of poisoning the very wine that Genevieve Teague took out. How did he know that she was going to bring it out though? Predictability? And of course he used the poisoning as a means to get the stone from her.

[MozartRequiem]

I was wondering, if Lionel had Dr. Swann killed, wouldn't that contradict the fact that he was trying to be all "puppies and hugs" at that time? Dr. Swann was announced to be dead in the episode "Sacred", and that was when Lionel was trying so hard to be a good man.

Unless, he had him poisoned way earlier in the season and had him keep getting drugged with poisons, the way he did to Lex in season three, and then he wanted to call it off but it was too late?

(all speculation that we may never get the answers to,but I was just curoious because I don't like character contradictions :). However, I'm really pleased with the fact that Lionel had all those others killed, because that fits with who his character was in the past, and really reminds us of why we called him MB :)).

[smallvillelogan]

Well, I dont think they blamed their deaths on Lionel, only Edward Teague by poisoning... Lionel would've probably taken Genevieve out at the same time, but Lana took care of that for him.

In light of this fantastic episode, I think that Lionel was planning to kill Genevieve in Season 4, after he realized that Clark was probably the Traveler after 'Transference.' But she was coventiently disposed of when Isobel was re-awakened in 'Commencement.'

All I know, is that I am liking Season 4 more now. I think I may have to watch that season again soon to try and make connections to Veritas.

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Between these 2 lines said by Lionel in Forever, I have no doubt that he knew about the possession:

Lionel: I gave it to her for the same reason I gave her that map to the temple. She is the chosen one, and we all know that!

Lionel: I wouldn't underestimate her, Genevieve. Don't forget Lana Lang's ancestor pledged that she would revenge your family.

What if Lionel claimed to think that Lana was the chosen one? So that she could go to China with Clark and compete for the stones with the Teagues?

I think this is possible, because I think Lionel began to think the Chosen One or Traveler was Clark in 'Transference.' He could have made that claim just to get Clark closer to the stones as well.

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Maybe Lionel did kill Edward, but as revenge for Edward killing Dr. Swann (if he was the one who killed Swann). This is all just speculation though. I would like these to be answered though, and it seems like it may happen as Lionel's role is getting bigger again (thankfully).

I believe it was established that Lionel killed Dr. Swann and all the others last night. Who knows when that murder occurred.

Two possibilities: it could have been in Season 3 when Lionel went to visit Dr. Swann, where maybe Lionel poisoned him and the poison worked slowly until Dr. Swann's death in 'Sacred.' Or, Lionel could have killed Swann during Season 4 right before 'Sacred' and then set everybody off to China to that Clark could find the stones, ASSUMING THAT LIONEL KNEW CLARK WAS THE TRAVELER BY THAT TIME AND HE LIED IN SAYING THAT LANA WAS THE CHOSEN ONE.

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We do know that the day Swann died was the same day the key was sent to him by mail. It seems like he was expecting something to happen to him and wanted to deliver the key to Clark before someone else could find it.

Exactly. There is a strong possibility here that Dr. Swann knew he was going to die from poisoning.

[xrayvision]

What if Lionel claimed to think that Lana was the chosen one? So that she could go to China with Clark and compete for the stones with the Teagues?

I think this is possible, because I think Lionel began to think the Chosen One or Traveler was Clark in 'Transference.' He could have made that claim just to get Clark closer to the stones as well.

Well, if you mean that he said that just to back up why he sent her to China, then I have to say that I had no doubt about that. His reason for sending Lana and everyone else to China wasn't that he really thought Lana was the chosen one. He was clearly playing them against each other. I think he actually wanted to use Isobel's knowledge of the stones so that she would find the one in China. Lex said to Jason in Sacred that Lionel combed through the temple in China several times and never found the stone, so using Isobel would logically be Lionel's next step. Plus Isobel was the one who originally stole the manuscript/map that Lex bought in Run. And once Isobel (or whoever out of the group that went to China) left with the stone, Lionel planned to hunt them down and did just that when he threatened to have Lana arrested. I definitely think Lionel knew after Transference that Clark had to be the Traveler. If you apply what we learned last night to prior seasons, Lionel probably knew from before then, but only had it confirmed after waking up from that Lion-El coma in Hidden.

I believe it was established that Lionel killed Dr. Swann and all the others last night. Who knows when that murder occurred.

Well, Patricia didn't have proof about Lionel killing Dr. Swann. She did have proof (if she wasn't bluffing, which I don't think she was) about Lionel's involvement in the deaths of the others, but not about Dr. Swann. She said this herself.

Two possibilities: it could have been in Season 3 when Lionel went to visit Dr. Swann, where maybe Lionel poisoned him and the poison worked slowly until Dr. Swann's death in 'Sacred.' Or, Lionel could have killed Swann during Season 4 right before 'Sacred' and then set everybody off to China to that Clark could find the stones, ASSUMING THAT LIONEL KNEW CLARK WAS THE TRAVELER BY THAT TIME AND HE LIED IN SAYING THAT LANA WAS THE CHOSEN ONE.

Well, in season 3 up until after Transference, Lionel was all about trying to save his own life from that liver disease. Swann did not doublecross Lionel in Legacy, so he didn't have a reason to poison him, at least not then. Swann could have still been considered Lionel's only hope after the key vanished into the cave wall.

Exactly. There is a strong possibility here that Dr. Swann knew he was going to die from poisoning.

Very true, but don't forget, this is still a possibility. What I was trying to point out before was that the Teagues did murder one member of the Swann Foundation---Bridgette Crosby---so what's to stop them from killing another--the founder? We know that Bridgette Crosby said that she and Dr. Swann were together "a lifetime ago". Lionel & Lillian Luthor were both in Veritas (she was alive when Lex drew that picture). Both Teagues were in Veritas too. I'm betting that not only Dr. Swann, but Bridgette Crosby was also in Veritas. And we know that Jason and/or Genevieve killed Bridgette for the stone after Lionel's "epiphany". So Swann's death could have been done by the Teagues just as easily. Don't forget that he died when the search for the stones was kicking into high gear. The Teagues wanted the stones for themselves. It's possible that Lionel wanted the stones for Clark and knew that Swann did not stand in Clark's way. Lionel shooting Jason off the cliff in Forever before he could divulge what he was about to say about Clark to Lex is evidence that Lionel was protecting Clark. And it could mean that he wanted to use his own ruthlessness to get the stones for Clark.

[ClLaLeChFAN01]

Perhaps Lionel tried once and it cause Dr. Swann to be paralyzed, we dont know what caused him to be paralyzed. Do we? What happened to Dr. Swann's wife (if he had one)? THere is no mention of her. Perhaps Lionel was satified with him being paralyzed and figured it was only a matter of time before he passed on also. My imagination is running wild at this moment!!! What other possibilities could there be?!?!?!?!?

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Is Bridgette Crosby still out there in the Smallville Universe or did she died in an episode, and I just cant remember? Perhaps she can come back for a reappearance?

[litew8]

B. Crosby died. Lex did it.

[ginnyfan]

I thought Patricia only mentioned Mr. Teague as though he were the Veritas member. It seemed to me like Jason was raised by his mother so Mr. Teague could have died a long time ago. Also, Genevieve didn't seem at all interested in Clark, just the stones and Isobel. I think Mr. Teague was the one Lionel killed. I doubt that Lionel orchestrated the whole "Sacred" plot.

[smallvillelogan]

B. Crosby died. Lex did it.

Crosby died, but the Teagues did it.

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I doubt that Lionel orchestrated the whole "Sacred" plot.

This is already an established fact from Season 4. The question now is, did he do it having already known that Clark was the Traveler, and with the intent for Clark to get the stones?

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Well, if you mean that he said that just to back up why he sent her to China, then I have to say that I had no doubt about that. His reason for sending Lana and everyone else to China wasn't that he really thought Lana was the chosen one. He was clearly playing them against each other. I think he actually wanted to use Isobel's knowledge of the stones so that she would find the one in China.

Well, Patricia didn't have proof about Lionel killing Dr. Swann. She did have proof (if she wasn't bluffing, which I don't think she was) about Lionel's involvement in the deaths of the others, but not about Dr. Swann. She said this herself.

Well, in season 3 up until after Transference, Lionel was all about trying to save his own life from that liver disease. Swann did not doublecross Lionel in Legacy, so he didn't have a reason to poison him, at least not then. Swann could have still been considered Lionel's only hope after the key vanished into the cave wall.

Very true, but don't forget, this is still a possibility. What I was trying to point out before was that the Teagues did murder one member of the Swann Foundation---Bridgette Crosby---so what's to stop them from killing another--the founder? We know that Bridgette Crosby said that she and Dr. Swann were together "a lifetime ago". Lionel & Lillian Luthor were both in Veritas (she was alive when Lex drew that picture). Both Teagues were in Veritas too. I'm betting that not only Dr. Swann, but Bridgette Crosby was also in Veritas. And we know that Jason and/or Genevieve killed Bridgette for the stone after Lionel's "epiphany". So Swann's death could have been done by the Teagues just as easily. It's possible that Lionel wanted the stones for Clark and knew that Swann did not stand in Clark's way. Lionel shooting Jason off the cliff in Forever before he could divulge what he was about to say about Clark to Lex is evidence that Lionel was protecting Clark. And it could mean that he wanted to use his own ruthlessness to get the stones for Clark.

OK, I'm actually glad to have it confirmed by others that Lionel was simply making a false claim in believing that Lana was the chosen one.

So Lionel may not have killed Swann, but for now I'm going to go with that as a fact until the show presents something different.

However, I definitely see your point on the Teagues being the one to kill Dr. Swann, because they stood in the way of Clark's destiny, and not Swann.

Really, all of this indicates that deep down Lionel's motives may actually be good, as to see that Clark fulfills his destiny, though he does it in the wrong manner in killing others.

[Vergon6]

Well, if you mean that he said that just to back up why he sent her to China, then I have to say that I had no doubt about that. His reason for sending Lana and everyone else to China wasn't that he really thought Lana was the chosen one. He was clearly playing them against each other. I think he actually wanted to use Isobel's knowledge of the stones so that she would find the one in China. Lex said to Jason in Sacred that Lionel combed through the temple in China several times and never found the stone, so using Isobel would logically be Lionel's next step. Plus Isobel was the one who originally stole the manuscript/map that Lex bought in Run. And once Isobel (or whoever out of the group that went to China) left with the stone, Lionel planned to hunt them down and did just that when he threatened to have Lana arrested. I definitely think Lionel knew after Transference that Clark had to be the Traveler. If you apply what we learned last night to prior seasons, Lionel probably knew from before then, but only had it confirmed after waking up from that Lion-El coma in Hidden.



Well, Patricia didn't have proof about Lionel killing Dr. Swann. She did have proof (if she wasn't bluffing, which I don't think she was) about Lionel's involvement in the deaths of the others, but not about Dr. Swann. She said this herself.



Well, in season 3 up until after Transference, Lionel was all about trying to save his own life from that liver disease. Swann did not doublecross Lionel in Legacy, so he didn't have a reason to poison him, at least not then. Swann could have still been considered Lionel's only hope after the key vanished into the cave wall.



Very true, but don't forget, this is still a possibility. What I was trying to point out before was that the Teagues did murder one member of the Swann Foundation---Bridgette Crosby---so what's to stop them from killing another--the founder? We know that Bridgette Crosby said that she and Dr. Swann were together "a lifetime ago". Lionel & Lillian Luthor were both in Veritas (she was alive when Lex drew that picture). Both Teagues were in Veritas too. I'm betting that not only Dr. Swann, but Bridgette Crosby was also in Veritas. And we know that Jason and/or Genevieve killed Bridgette for the stone after Lionel's "epiphany". So Swann's death could have been done by the Teagues just as easily. Don't forget that he died when the search for the stones was kicking into high gear. The Teagues wanted the stones for themselves. It's possible that Lionel wanted the stones for Clark and knew that Swann did not stand in Clark's way. Lionel shooting Jason off the cliff in Forever before he could divulge what he was about to say about Clark to Lex is evidence that Lionel was protecting Clark. And it could mean that he wanted to use his own ruthlessness to get the stones for Clark.
You know most of your theories I find a bit of stretch, but this one sounds likely to me :)

The Teagues killed Crosby, but Jason was trying to deflect the blame onto Lex.

[hogwartsmallville]

I think that a lot of the answers are on the last episode of Justice & Doom webisodes located on season six dvd set, because there is the scene of the luthors, swann's, teagues and queen's talking, there's also explanation of different stuff like chinese, the fortress, ISOBEL and a lot of things, you should watch it and please I need someone to analize that one because there's a lot of questions, also I'm wondering why anybody has brught this up? . Also on this dvd set, in the oliver queen's chronicle's first episode, ollie's parents mention Dr. Virgill Swann.... there's a lot going on, but all I can say is that this plot has been cooking over long time ago....

[Zooks]

lionel was being a good guy when dr. swann died. he was in the euphoria of losing cancer. the teagues freed Lionel from prison. I think they could have killed Swann or they got Lionel off and he had to have swann killed to return the favor.

[smallvilleluver13]

I've heard people on other boards say that Lionel killed Edwarde Teague in the 90's or something, but how is that possible? It had to happen in the last 2-3 years because Jason mentioned that his dad cut him off. And when he and his mother died I think there was mention of the fact that Edward was a lawyer and he may sue or something. Sorry if this has just been discussed. :p

[xrayvision]

I've heard people on other boards say that Lionel killed Edwarde Teague in the 90's or something, but how is that possible? It had to happen in the last 2-3 years because Jason mentioned that his dad cut him off. And when he and his mother died I think there was mention of the fact that Edward was a lawyer and he may sue or something. Sorry if this has just been discussed. :p

Yeah, I pointed out earlier in the thread that Lex told Lana that Edward Teague is powerful and won't let her get off free when she wanted to go and confess to what happened in Commencement. So I'd say Edward Teague was killed sometime offscreen in season 5. Probably soon after Genevieve died (shortly after Hidden when Lionel regained his senses).

[Vergon6]

What episode did Lex mention Edward Teague? I re-watched "Arrival" a couple of hours ago, and only saw the newspaper article and the note from Lex to Lana on it saying "you owe me one"

[skizzo]

I'm hoping "Veritas" will explain some of these questions.

[smallvilleluver13]

Yeah, I pointed out earlier in the thread that Lex told Lana that Edward Teague is powerful and won't let her get off free when she wanted to go and confess to what happened in Commencement. So I'd say Edward Teague was killed sometime offscreen in season 5. Probably soon after Genevieve died (shortly after Hidden when Lionel regained his senses).
Oh sorry, well thanks for the answer. That's what I assumed I just wish they would have stated it or something. :\

What episode did Lex mention Edward Teague? I re-watched "Arrival" a couple of hours ago, and only saw the newspaper article and the note from Lex to Lana on it saying "you owe me one"Maybe it was Commencment then, but I do remember him saying that sometime...

[Vergon6]

I will check that out ;)

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I just checked, Edward Teague is indeed mentioned in "Commencement". Lex is warning Lana about going to authorities because Edward Teague is powerful lawyer that was stop at nothing ruin her or something to that effect.

[smallvilleluver13]

That's cool, so I guess the MB did poisin him around Season 5 then.

[skizzo]

wow if we get some closure on Isobel/Teagues/Lionel that would be some awesome continuity :D