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minerva73
03-17-2008, 01:03 PM
After thinking about what happened with Kara, Lana, and Clark about Kara's distrust, I think that Jimmy also should have a portion of the blame placed on him. He's Kara's boyfriend or at least was accompanying her, so he should have tried to know about Kara's whereabouts and he could have provided her protection against Lex.

All throughout his relationship with Chloe, he interrogated her about where she was going or why she was always relying on Clark, but he can't do the same for Kara? He could have at least asked her where she was staying and since she trusted Jimmy, she would most likely tell. If she didn't take Jimmy's advice not to go to Lex, then it's her fault, but the least Jimmy could have done was try to get to the bottom of it IMO.

jimmyolsenblues
03-17-2008, 01:43 PM
I understand jimmy going out with kara so soon after the relationship with chloe, does not look good on Jimmy
But in Jimmy's defense. While Jimmy was first dating Chloe, Chloe was first in Jimmy's heart. Jimmy was always second in Chloe's heart.
So I have to give some blame to Chloe to.

aqgalaxy
03-17-2008, 01:50 PM
So I have to give some blame to Chloe to.

Yeah cause Chloe doesn't give her heart totally to the person who she lost her virginity too and never called her again.

jimmyolsenblues
03-17-2008, 01:54 PM
so you saying chloe gets no blame for dating jimmy but loving clark to the demise of the relationship?

lauraforever
03-17-2008, 01:58 PM
He's definitely a bad boyfriend for Kara. LOL, I'd happily take his place and be the concerned boyfriend she needs! Providing I can get Lex's hands off of her....

minerva73
03-17-2008, 01:58 PM
I understand jimmy going out with kara so soon after the relationship with chloe, does not look good on Jimmy
But in Jimmy's defense. While Jimmy was first dating Chloe, Chloe was first in Jimmy's heart. Jimmy was always second in Chloe's heart.
So I have to give some blame to Chloe to.

I agree. I can't blame Chloe for being so attractive and getting the eyes of Jimmy. ;) But yes, Chloe does deserve a portion of the blame as well seeing as how he was so strung on her.

But I still feel that if Jimmy was going to hop into a relationship with Kara, he should have at least treated her the same way he did Chloe. He treated Chloe like that and to him it didn't have a negative effect on their relationship, so why not Kara?

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He's definitely a bad boyfriend for Kara. LOL, I'd happily take his place and be the concerned boyfriend she needs! Providing I can get Lex's hands off of her....

:rotfl: :rotfl:

Kal26
03-17-2008, 02:00 PM
I want to know why he felt the need to lie to Kara about the things that they normally would do before she lost her memory. He told her they go to concerts and stuff together. Did I miss that or something?

I also disliked how she needs him right now, to help her see the truth about Lex, and all he wants to do is get back with Chloe. I definitely want him to be with Chloe, but he needs to be telling Kara what's up with Lex. Someone does anyway. I also blame Lana, Clark, and Chloe for not jumping in.

All about Clark
03-17-2008, 02:17 PM
so you saying chloe gets no blame for dating jimmy but loving clark to the demise of the relationship?

Chloe's faults in her relationship had nothing to do with Clark and everything to do with her meteor ability. I think Jimmy has realized there is no romance between Chloe and Clark and that Clark supported their relationship.

What's disappointing with Jimmy is that he was willing to give up on Kara so quickly because the spark was missing, along with every other part of Kara's life. This was a time when Kara needed Jimmy's support and he runs off to Chloe looking for sparks. Bad Jimmy. So does this mean that everytime his girl has a bump in the road, he will look for greener pastures. I'd say watch out Chloe, he's not a long-termer.

Kal26
03-17-2008, 02:20 PM
Chloe's faults in her relationship had nothing to do with Clark and everything to do with her meteor ability. I think Jimmy has realized there is no romance between Chloe and Clark and that Clark supported their relationship.

What's disappointing with Jimmy is that he was willing to give up on Kara so quickly because the spark was missing, along with every other part of Kara's life. This was a time when Kara needed Jimmy's support and he runs off to Chloe looking for sparks. Bad Jimmy. So does this mean that everytime his girl has a bump in the road, he will look for greener pastures. I'd say watch out Chloe, he's not a long-termer.

Exactly what I was thinking!

umm
03-17-2008, 03:09 PM
Chloe's faults in her relationship had nothing to do with Clark and everything to do with her meteor ability. I think Jimmy has realized there is no romance between Chloe and Clark and that Clark supported their relationship.

What's disappointing with Jimmy is that he was willing to give up on Kara so quickly because the spark was missing, along with every other part of Kara's life. This was a time when Kara needed Jimmy's support and he runs off to Chloe looking for sparks. Bad Jimmy. So does this mean that everytime his girl has a bump in the road, he will look for greener pastures. I'd say watch out Chloe, he's not a long-termer.

Oh Jimmy boy, you are getting a bad rep!:\:o Heartbreaking, love them and leave them kind of guy!

MidgardDragon
03-17-2008, 03:39 PM
After thinking about what happened with Kara, Lana, and Clark about Kara's distrust, I think that Jimmy also should have a portion of the blame placed on him. He's Kara's boyfriend or at least was accompanying her, so he should have tried to know about Kara's whereabouts and he could have provided her protection against Lex.

All throughout his relationship with Chloe, he interrogated her about where she was going or why she was always relying on Clark, but he can't do the same for Kara? He could have at least asked her where she was staying and since she trusted Jimmy, she would most likely tell. If she didn't take Jimmy's advice not to go to Lex, then it's her fault, but the least Jimmy could have done was try to get to the bottom of it IMO.

Instead of him being a bad boyfriend, it is much more likely that he was just with Kara on the rebound, without realizing this was what he was doing. Being with someone you don't have as strong as feelings for as you initially thought does not make you a bad person, nor is it at all uncommon. It's not that he didn't care about her or was a jerk, he just wasn't obsessive like he was with Chloe, because his feelings weren't as strong.

All about Clark
03-17-2008, 04:14 PM
^I don't think I can buy that. He had the eyes for Kara while he was with Chloe. Chloe even knew he had interest in Kara. As soon as Chloe backed off because of her meteor problems, Jimmy jumped at the Kara bandwagon.

Serynarpc
03-17-2008, 04:17 PM
Chloe's faults in her relationship had nothing to do with Clark and everything to do with her meteor ability. I think Jimmy has realized there is no romance between Chloe and Clark and that Clark supported their relationship.

What's disappointing with Jimmy is that he was willing to give up on Kara so quickly because the spark was missing, along with every other part of Kara's life. This was a time when Kara needed Jimmy's support and he runs off to Chloe looking for sparks. Bad Jimmy. So does this mean that everytime his girl has a bump in the road, he will look for greener pastures. I'd say watch out Chloe, he's not a long-termer.


Exactly. An aspect of 'Cure' keeps coming back to me- 'People will be there to fill in the Blanks'. Besides a 'Blank' tribute of Chloe teaching Clark his powers *heart*, it should have stood that Kara needed that same sort of care.

Instead Lana's lying like a lynx instead of dishing (she'd be the PERFECT one to explain Lex's failings), Chloe was dead (a good excuse) and then going out for coffee (A little cold) and WTF is Jimmy doing? He completely dropped the ball on caring for his girlfriend.

The spark is gone because.... she has no clue who you are! Wheres your 'memory box' you made for Chloe, Jimmy?

Perhaps this is supposed to drive home that Kara was a rebound girl, but its still cold. I hope Kara whoops Jimmy when she gets her memory back.

luvinChlark
03-17-2008, 05:18 PM
I don't care about Kara and Jimmy. Both have done nothing on this show for me to actually care...

Sweetie
03-17-2008, 05:34 PM
Yes,it's because Jimmy was not really in love with Kara on the first place,I never saw sparks between them whatsoever.I hope he keeps in touch with Kara and become her best friend instead.After all,he's the only she will trust right now.

aqgalaxy
03-17-2008, 06:01 PM
Chloe's faults in her relationship had nothing to do with Clark and everything to do with her meteor ability. I think Jimmy has realized there is no romance between Chloe and Clark and that Clark supported their relationship.

What's disappointing with Jimmy is that he was willing to give up on Kara so quickly because the spark was missing, along with every other part of Kara's life. This was a time when Kara needed Jimmy's support and he runs off to Chloe looking for sparks. Bad Jimmy. So does this mean that everytime his girl has a bump in the road, he will look for greener pastures. I'd say watch out Chloe, he's not a long-termer.

Word Word WORD!

Yes, Jimmy made Chloe happy in the begining of season 6. It's a standard, OMG Chloe got a BF moment. But lets see it based on show's cannon. Jimmy was Chloe's first guy she had the, yeah, with. She confesses to Lana, she regrets doing it with Jimmy. Then in Zod it is revealed that Jimmy never called her back, justifying why Chloe regretted it back then. It was a one night stand. So Chloe settles in to an already tainted relationship IMHO. First few episodes it was cute, Chloe was getting some, but then the insecurities begin happening that leads up to Crimson where Jimmy forces Chloe to chose either him or Clark. IMHO he had no right to do such thing. he broke it off. So they got back together, with nothing resolved. Alright, so then we continue to have Insecure Jimmy, that does nothing to Chloe's character but degrade her. She was like a housewife to Jimmy then the Chloe Sullivan I learned to Love. Thus the POD!Chloe. So he leaves for months, like no big deal and it seems they never stayed in contact. While he's gone, Chloe loses her mom for the second time, her cousin was stabbed, Chloe dies and comes back to life, Lana gets blown up, on and on basically Jimmy leaves when Chloe could have used her boyfriend more then ever for actual support. The day he comes back, he eyes another girl in front of Chloe, showing interest, even licking his lips basically eye-screwing in front of Chloe with Kara. Then Chloe is facing a difficult time, he doesn't give her chance to open up, and he starts having this dinner dates with Kara at the Planet. Which IMHO that's how Chlimmy started when they were interns. So in cure they broke up again and every chance he makes, he mentions how all MF's end up crazy and how they should be locked up. Then lays it into Chloe for not trusting him, and jumps into a relationship with Kara. Yeah Chloe should feel loved that Jimmy can move on so quickly.

Gemini, they were about to die, so everything that happens then doesn't count.

So now in Hero, Karimmy is on Ice cause she has no clue who Jimmy is so is guarded and Jimmy doesn't want to deal with it. Chloe just agreed to be Jimmy's backpocket girl. i mean she knows Kara lost her memory, and knows just the night before Jimmy went on a date with Kara. Why didn't Chloe stand up for herself? God, see this is why I hate Chlimmy. While I love the aspect of Chloe getting a man, Jimmy brings Chloe's character down and makes her act totally different then what we've seen. She should have called him out, "so Kara doesn't remember you and you want to try to start things up with me again? Jimmy would you have dumped me if I had gotten that cure that one time and lost my memory? Would you have given up on me and hooked up with Kara then?" So he jumps back with Chloe, who is stupid to agree. Shows how desperate she is just to get a man's attention. Chlimmy may make Chloe happy, but in reality it makes her look weak and pathetic.

All about Clark
03-17-2008, 06:08 PM
An aspect of 'Cure' keeps coming back to me- 'People will be there to fill in the Blanks'. Besides a 'Blank' tribute of Chloe teaching Clark his powers *heart*, it should have stood that Kara needed that same sort of care.

The spark is gone because.... she has no clue who you are! Wheres your 'memory box' you made for Chloe, Jimmy?

I agree. She needed him more than ever and Jimmy just didn't give her the care she needed.

We've always said that Chloe is too good for Jimmy and really this proves it. Chloe was far better to Clark, then Jimmy could be for Kara.

I actually hope Chloe can find happiness with Jimmy, but I just don't see it long-term.

smallvillelogan
03-17-2008, 06:38 PM
I don't really care, but he was a bad boyfriend when he ditched Chloe for the hotter Kara. That wasn't a good move. But most boyfriends would probably do the same thing if some girl like Kara walked into your life and liked you a lot.

Hopefulsuicide
03-17-2008, 08:08 PM
Chloe's faults in her relationship had nothing to do with Clark and everything to do with her meteor ability. I think Jimmy has realized there is no romance between Chloe and Clark and that Clark supported their relationship.

What's disappointing with Jimmy is that he was willing to give up on Kara so quickly because the spark was missing, along with every other part of Kara's life. This was a time when Kara needed Jimmy's support and he runs off to Chloe looking for sparks. Bad Jimmy. So does this mean that everytime his girl has a bump in the road, he will look for greener pastures. I'd say watch out Chloe, he's not a long-termer.

yeah i totally agree

he seems totally changeable... i really loved chimmy when it was first happening, he seemed so honest and loving... but now ive been reminded of how he took her virginity, and how he was willing to drop both of them when it got a bit too hot, and he didnt feel like first priority

well hes just a selfish little boy isnt he?

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Word Word WORD!

Yes, Jimmy made Chloe happy in the begining of season 6. It's a standard, OMG Chloe got a BF moment. But lets see it based on show's cannon. Jimmy was Chloe's first guy she had the, yeah, with. She confesses to Lana, she regrets doing it with Jimmy. Then in Zod it is revealed that Jimmy never called her back, justifying why Chloe regretted it back then. It was a one night stand. So Chloe settles in to an already tainted relationship IMHO. First few episodes it was cute, Chloe was getting some, but then the insecurities begin happening that leads up to Crimson where Jimmy forces Chloe to chose either him or Clark. IMHO he had no right to do such thing. he broke it off. So they got back together, with nothing resolved. Alright, so then we continue to have Insecure Jimmy, that does nothing to Chloe's character but degrade her. She was like a housewife to Jimmy then the Chloe Sullivan I learned to Love. Thus the POD!Chloe. So he leaves for months, like no big deal and it seems they never stayed in contact. While he's gone, Chloe loses her mom for the second time, her cousin was stabbed, Chloe dies and comes back to life, Lana gets blown up, on and on basically Jimmy leaves when Chloe could have used her boyfriend more then ever for actual support. The day he comes back, he eyes another girl in front of Chloe, showing interest, even licking his lips basically eye-screwing in front of Chloe with Kara. Then Chloe is facing a difficult time, he doesn't give her chance to open up, and he starts having this dinner dates with Kara at the Planet. Which IMHO that's how Chlimmy started when they were interns. So in cure they broke up again and every chance he makes, he mentions how all MF's end up crazy and how they should be locked up. Then lays it into Chloe for not trusting him, and jumps into a relationship with Kara. Yeah Chloe should feel loved that Jimmy can move on so quickly.

Gemini, they were about to die, so everything that happens then doesn't count.

So now in Hero, Karimmy is on Ice cause she has no clue who Jimmy is so is guarded and Jimmy doesn't want to deal with it. Chloe just agreed to be Jimmy's backpocket girl. i mean she knows Kara lost her memory, and knows just the night before Jimmy went on a date with Kara. Why didn't Chloe stand up for herself? God, see this is why I hate Chlimmy. While I love the aspect of Chloe getting a man, Jimmy brings Chloe's character down and makes her act totally different then what we've seen. She should have called him out, "so Kara doesn't remember you and you want to try to start things up with me again? Jimmy would you have dumped me if I had gotten that cure that one time and lost my memory? Would you have given up on me and hooked up with Kara then?" So he jumps back with Chloe, who is stupid to agree. Shows how desperate she is just to get a man's attention. Chlimmy may make Chloe happy, but in reality it makes her look weak and pathetic.

BRAVO!

in fact the whole scene proved to me something i have been saying for ages... that she IS in love with Jimmy, no matter what he or anyone else thinks

problem is, just when she starts to realise this, i start to think he's an ass lol

rebukey
03-17-2008, 08:20 PM
I'm not sure if Jimmy could have stopped Kara even if he knew what was going on. For one, he doesn't know the "big secret" so he couldn't help Kara out in that way. Also, he doesn't really know that much about evil Lex. Jimmy knows that Lex is bad, but I'm not sure how much detail he could give Kara if she asked for proof. If it is true that the 'spark' is gone for both Kara and Jimmy I'm not sure what kind of influence he would have on her anyway.

Back to the real question though, is Jimmy a bad boyfriend? I think he is. Kara was a rebound girl, but that still means that she deserves his respect. He shouldn't dump her just because things are hard. Kara has not been back that long. He should give it more time. And I love Chloe, but she should know this. Maybe she feels like Jimmy was always hers so she feels entitled to get him back? Not sure, but she shouldn't go along with this.

I'm new here so I'm not sure how you guys feel about spoilers, but with what we know is going to happen next week, I am very interested in seeing what happens with this triangle.

smallvillelogan
03-17-2008, 08:24 PM
If I was Chloe, I wouldn't let Jimmy get me back so easily. I mean, he completely ditched her just because he saw that a hotter girl had the hots for him. How shallow. Chloe's better than that both as a girlfriend and as somebody that should recognize that her former boyfriend made a shallow move.

borednow
03-17-2008, 10:18 PM
I think Jimmy made it pretty clear that Kara and him weren't clicking. I sincerely doubt he could have stopped her from going to Lex, the people who could have done that were Lana, Lionel, and Clark.

mean, he completely ditched her just because he saw that a hotter girl had the hots for him.
Jimmy broke up with her because she wasn't opening up to him, and was implying that something was wrong with their relationship, he never ditched her for Kara until after that when he was doing everything seemingly within his power to avoid Chloe.

P.S. Jimmy is a great boyfriend, probably the only good one this show has ever shown.

KnightWayne
03-18-2008, 11:36 PM
A great boyfriend material from back in Season 6, sure, but Season 7....that dude is a player-wannabe! Then again, which of us geek guys isn't a player-wannabe? Except for me though!

jazel
03-19-2008, 12:22 AM
Not sure, if a couple of get togethers, constitutes boyfriend/girlfriend status. They (Kara and Jimmy) hung out at the DP once, and what else prior to her amnesia ? I really don't remember......
Regardless, don't think Jimmy is all that bad. He was aware enough of Lois's feelings, over her break-up w/ Ollie, in Crimson. Even Chloe didn't care about that. Some cousin.:p
Jimmy biggest sin, is being an innocent obstacle, for the fans who are expecting Chlark, to "magically" happen.......:lol:
Otherwise he's just a "typical" guy.;)

ginnyfan
03-19-2008, 12:46 AM
P.S. Jimmy is a great boyfriend, probably the only good one this show has ever shown.

Amen to that!

I don't think that Jimmy is a bad boyfriend.

My theory is that the date didn't go so great. Jimmy spent the night trying really hard to create the spark between them by himself. This didn't work because that spark comes largely from Kara's enthusiasm. She's full of sunshine and joy and doesn't have eyes for anyone but Jimmy. He usually seems rather overwhelmed and ambushed by Kara. So the dynamic is damaged. Also, I think JimmyOlsenBlues is right that when it comes down to it, Kara is Jimmy's rebound girl. Despite the fact that he got caught checking Kara out (she's hot, it happens - Chloe checked out Oliver and BowWow while dating Jimmy), he's not in love with her, and not as into her as he is Chloe. Never was.

On Kara's end, she seemed rather bored. She was trying to care but didn't. She thought Jimmy was cute and sweet (I love her smile when he went to get her "bevy") but she'd rather be with Lex trying to get her memory back. She's just not in that joyful, carefree, happy place that makes her want to spend time with Jimmy. She's worried, she's troubled. So they both had... obstacles. It's not such a serious relationship that... it's worth hanging on through troubled waters for either of them. At the best of times I never got the vibe that Jimmy was Kara's soulmate. I did get the vibe that she wanted to go surfing and eat ice cream with him and go to concerts and make out. Fun! They had fun together. But not now.

So my theory is that the end of the date was mutual. They broke up, decided to take a break mutually. Jimmy ran off eagerly to tell Chloe about his news story. Kara got to scratch her itch, confront Lana once and for all and get back to the one person who's been straight with her, Lex Luthor.

They don't tell us. They leave it in Offscreenville. But from what I've seen of Jimmy in the past, if Kara had opened up to him, he would have been on the case for her memory. I could see her telling a white lie to placate him like, "Oh just... take me somewhere we used to hang out." I could see him sensing that she wasn't being open but... smiling through it and giving it the old college try. As far as Jimmy lying about concerts, they've probably gone to concerts in Offscreenville.

Just because Kara doesn't have a memory, it doesn't mean she's not able to make decisions about where she wants to spend her time. And right now, she doesn't want to spend it having fun with Jimmy.

As far as Chloe and Jimmy goes, the buck stops with Chloe. When Chloe saw Jimmy for the first time I thought... what's she going to say? What's she going to do? I knew that Jimmy didn't call her back. But she gave him a lopsided smile I've never seen before. That intrigued me. She didn't roll her eyes and give him a hard time the way it seems that you would if some guy dogged you. So I'm taking my cue from Chloe there.

At first I loved Jimmy because hell, I wanted Chloe to get some loving! I wanted someone to look at Chloe the way Clark has mooned over Lana for what feels like 700 years. Jimmy was even better. He wasn't brainlessly in love with Chloe. He loved Journalism, he thought she was beautiful, sexy, called her bright eyes. Oh it was just... Yum! He was so awkward and geeky but respectful and gentlemanly. No subterfuge here. I don't think Jimmy is capable of being duplicitous. It's all out there for everyone to see.

I fell in love with Jimmy when he pulled one over on Lex; because of his momentum... At the end of the day he wants to be working on a story with Chloe. He doesn't carry that middling, soap opera vibe. He's just... got so much forward motion. I love that! Jimmy's like, let's go! Here's a story! I'll take pictures! He's great. Then he was a total romantic! Chimmy shot past Clana FAST in the romance department. LOL! Rose petals, office dates, dip kisses... oh yes! Also Jimmy doesn't hem and haw... when things are not working he says it right out and ends things. It doesn't drag out like Clana. He ended it when he thought Chloe would rather be with Clark more than him. He ended it when he thought Chloe wasn't being open with him. Then when Clark let Jimmy know that he and Chloe were just friends, Jimmy was man enough to say he was still interested. When things didn't work out with Kara, he was man enough to say he wanted to give it another try. Again, there was Chloe ready to give me my cue. Did she roll her eyes and say "Hell no. You need to make up your mind." She smiled and said she'd bring the butane to help stoke up that ember! If Chloe's ready to go, I'm ready to go.

And I don't feel like I did during Season 5, like she's getting the short end of the stick. She was always Jimmy's first choice in my opinion.

LexLuv180
03-19-2008, 01:10 AM
I want to know why he felt the need to lie to Kara about the things that they normally would do before she lost her memory. He told her they go to concerts and stuff together. Did I miss that or something?



I wondered that also. Did they date a lot offscreen or something? I had assumed they had lunch the one time.

jazel
03-19-2008, 01:24 AM
didn't they "go" surfing in Star City at one point ?
Offscreensville, is too confusing.....Lois, "chasing" after chuppakabras......:lol:

wolverine316
03-19-2008, 12:53 PM
Jimmy is pathetic as a boyfriend but more importantly as a man.

Hopefulsuicide
03-19-2008, 01:49 PM
Jimmy is pathetic as a boyfriend but more importantly as a man.

lol strong sentiments there... kinda true though :)

Kal26
03-19-2008, 02:35 PM
didn't they "go" surfing in Star City at one point ?
Offscreensville, is too confusing.....Lois, "chasing" after chuppakabras......:lol:

I forgot about the surfing thing.

All about Clark
03-19-2008, 05:01 PM
Even when Chloe fessed up about her meteor power to Jimmy, they indicated that Jimmy and Kara were seeing each other. I think they've indicated enough that Kimmy were together, the surfing etc. That's why it was so disappointing when Jimmy was ready to dump her just because she couldn't remember anything. It was very low of him. And if he really wanted to be with Chloe why didn't he do it the whole month that Kara was gone. No, I think he was really waiting for Kara, and felt no memory, no sparks. He barely shared what they had, or he lost his memory too. Very disappointing.

constantine
03-19-2008, 05:11 PM
Jimmy is pathetic as a boyfriend but more importantly as a man.

Now hold on a minute, how can you possibly say that? out of the two of them, Jimmy has consistently shown more backbone than clark; he's put his ass on the line to protect chloe, and he's one of the few characters in the show with actual charisma

minerva73
03-19-2008, 05:48 PM
Jimmy broke up with her because she wasn't opening up to him, and was implying that something was wrong with their relationship, he never ditched her for Kara until after that when he was doing everything seemingly within his power to avoid Chloe.

P.S. Jimmy is a great boyfriend, probably the only good one this show has ever shown.

The thing is that Jimmy started showing that he felt attracted to Kara while still in his relationship with Chloe and it was pretty evident to Chloe as well (in "Fierce" after the show and Jimmy saw Kara or in "Cure" when she kissed him for helping her). Most guys including myself would probably feel that way if a good looking girl came by, but at the level that Jimmy demonstrated especially considering that he was in a relationship with Ms. Sullivan.

Personally, I thought that Jimmy was the ideal boyfriend for Chloe in Season 6, but this season he's not doing such a good job IMO. :\

Amen to that!

I don't think that Jimmy is a bad boyfriend.

My theory is that the date didn't go so great. Jimmy spent the night trying really hard to create the spark between them by himself. This didn't work because that spark comes largely from Kara's enthusiasm. She's full of sunshine and joy and doesn't have eyes for anyone but Jimmy. He usually seems rather overwhelmed and ambushed by Kara. So the dynamic is damaged. Also, I think JimmyOlsenBlues is right that when it comes down to it, Kara is Jimmy's rebound girl. Despite the fact that he got caught checking Kara out (she's hot, it happens - Chloe checked out Oliver and BowWow while dating Jimmy), he's not in love with her, and not as into her as he is Chloe. Never was.

On Kara's end, she seemed rather bored. She was trying to care but didn't. She thought Jimmy was cute and sweet (I love her smile when he went to get her "bevy") but she'd rather be with Lex trying to get her memory back. She's just not in that joyful, carefree, happy place that makes her want to spend time with Jimmy. She's worried, she's troubled. So they both had... obstacles. It's not such a serious relationship that... it's worth hanging on through troubled waters for either of them. At the best of times I never got the vibe that Jimmy was Kara's soulmate. I did get the vibe that she wanted to go surfing and eat ice cream with him and go to concerts and make out. Fun! They had fun together. But not now.

Still even if Chloe showed those reactions while dating Jimmy, she didn't make it as obvious or like she didn't care that much about her boyfriend. Jimmy basically did. I find it sad that when he told Kara that he would search things up with her, he was perfectly fine with it, but he gets upset when Chloe goes try to make the world a better place.

I agree that Kara wasn't Jimmy's ideal girlfriend, but why should he be the only one to get a back-up girlfriend, but if Chloe hangs out with her best friend she gets scolded? She broke up with Chloe and has made numerous remarks because he's somewhat jealous of Clark and Chloe's bond. Chloe didn't do that with Lois and Jimmy's partnership. :\

So my theory is that the end of the date was mutual. They broke up, decided to take a break mutually. Jimmy ran off eagerly to tell Chloe about his news story. Kara got to scratch her itch, confront Lana once and for all and get back to the one person who's been straight with her, Lex Luthor.

They don't tell us. They leave it in Offscreenville. But from what I've seen of Jimmy in the past, if Kara had opened up to him, he would have been on the case for her memory. I could see her telling a white lie to placate him like, "Oh just... take me somewhere we used to hang out." I could see him sensing that she wasn't being open but... smiling through it and giving it the old college try. As far as Jimmy lying about concerts, they've probably gone to concerts in Offscreenville.

But the thing is that Jimmy's probably one of the people that Kara does have trust in. She allows Jimmy to take her out to concerts and tell her about things that they "used to do", but she basically says to Lana that she doesn't trust her in her face. Next to Lex, I think that Jimmy's the person that Kara trusts the most.

Where's the memory box? Where's some blatant attempt to show her something of her past? He takes her to a concert and calls it a day? Of all the coffee dates and beaches they've gone to, couldn't he have racked up a bunch of souveneirs (sp?) from those dates and gathered them together to make some kind of memory box? Jimmy wasn't expecting Chloe's memory loss until "Cure", but we've seen that Jimmy's had that stuff since "Zod". Why couldn't he do that with Kara? Back pocket girl or front pocket girl, he needs to make an attempt if he's in a relationship with her. Even Clark did that with Lois in "Crimson".


Just because Kara doesn't have a memory, it doesn't mean she's not able to make decisions about where she wants to spend her time. And right now, she doesn't want to spend it having fun with Jimmy.

As far as Chloe and Jimmy goes, the buck stops with Chloe. When Chloe saw Jimmy for the first time I thought... what's she going to say? What's she going to do? I knew that Jimmy didn't call her back. But she gave him a lopsided smile I've never seen before. That intrigued me. She didn't roll her eyes and give him a hard time the way it seems that you would if some guy dogged you. So I'm taking my cue from Chloe there.

At first I loved Jimmy because hell, I wanted Chloe to get some loving! I wanted someone to look at Chloe the way Clark has mooned over Lana for what feels like 700 years. Jimmy was even better. He wasn't brainlessly in love with Chloe. He loved Journalism, he thought she was beautiful, sexy, called her bright eyes. Oh it was just... Yum! He was so awkward and geeky but respectful and gentlemanly. No subterfuge here. I don't think Jimmy is capable of being duplicitous. It's all out there for everyone to see.

I agree that Clana was horrible in Seasons 1-6 and Chimmy was great and that's why I was a Chimmy fan last season and the beginning of this season as well. But Jimmy confuses me. He says that he's "trying to be the understanding boyfriend", but he flips out over every little mention of Clark out of Chloe's mouth (I exaggerated slightly, but meh). And Chloe didn't even say that she loved Clark. When Lana said that she loved Clark while she was with Lex in "Hydro", Lex didn't lash out at her or break-up with her like Jimmy did in "Trespass". He just took the facts and dealt. He may have done it in "Phantom", but that was also after Lana mentioned the fake pregnancy.

Jimmy can't do that when Chloe doesn't even have feelings for the guy.

Even when Chloe fessed up about her meteor power to Jimmy, they indicated that Jimmy and Kara were seeing each other. I think they've indicated enough that Kimmy were together, the surfing etc. That's why it was so disappointing when Jimmy was ready to dump her just because she couldn't remember anything. It was very low of him. And if he really wanted to be with Chloe why didn't he do it the whole month that Kara was gone. No, I think he was really waiting for Kara, and felt no memory, no sparks. He barely shared what they had, or he lost his memory too. Very disappointing.

I agree. It's not like Jimmy used his resources to run around the country looking for Kara. He might not have the technology, but he has the brains and a friend named Chloe Sullivan. Even if Kara was always going to be his second choice in love, he should have done more than what he displayed in "Hero".

smallvillelogan
03-19-2008, 05:50 PM
Now hold on a minute, how can you possibly say that? out of the two of them, Jimmy has consistently shown more backbone than clark; he's put his ass on the line to protect chloe, and he's one of the few characters in the show with actual charisma

He's a better man, but there is no doubt that he was hoping things would work out with Kara before he was going to go back to Chloe. I mean, like mentioned a few posts ago, he didn't make any sort of attempt to re-kindle the relationship with Chloe while Kara was gone. He waited until Kara came back and the spark was no longer there.

This definitely proves that Kara came before Chloe as a girlfriend in Jimmy's priorities. (Not that there's anything wrong with that... I mean, c'mon, it's KARA!) :lol:

LexLuv180
03-19-2008, 08:15 PM
Jimmy's too jealous also. Almost everyone who walks into Chloe's life, he has this weird look on his face.

IloveClark
03-19-2008, 10:59 PM
No he's a bad boyfriend cause he's stupid.Of course you've lost the spark she lost her memory you idiot.

savannah
03-20-2008, 08:17 AM
He just doesn't feel any sparks between him and Kara after she lost her memory. Now I think Chloe and Jimmy are getting back together though.:p

borednow
03-20-2008, 11:25 AM
He's a better man, but there is no doubt that he was hoping things would work out with Kara before he was going to go back to Chloe. I mean, like mentioned a few posts ago, he didn't make any sort of attempt to re-kindle the relationship with Chloe while Kara was gone. He waited until Kara came back and the spark was no longer there.

This definitely proves that Kara came before Chloe as a girlfriend in Jimmy's priorities. (Not that there's anything wrong with that... I mean, c'mon, it's KARA!) :lol:

Isn't it a show that he is a good boyfriend if he does wait until they get back from being missing to break up with them? If he had attempted to re-kindle with Chloe when he was still dating Kara that would have made him a bit of a jerk, he waited until Kara came back gave it one last try then broke up with her.

Jimmy doesn't know that Chloe and Clark spend their time together trying to save the day. All he knows is that they hang out together a lot. His jealously hasn't come back since both Chloe and Clark made it clear that they weren't like that. The only other time you could even argue that he sounded jealous was the phone call but in that case I think he was just surprised, I mean come on your in an elevator with a bomb someone is standing on you to get cellphone reception and they call a friend of theirs? Not the police, a random their best friend. I think he had a bit of a right to be moderately upset, given that he had no idea calling Clark is better then the police. Jimmy is cool with them being investigation buddies. He didn't say a thing about it in Noir, and didn't even get upset when they ignored him. I'm sorry but Jimmy isn't the jealous jerk some of you seem to be making him out to be.

Why didn't he have a memory box for Kara? Maybe because she was his rebound girl and he didn't collect souvenirs or maybe after what happened with the last memory box he just thought they lead to heart break :lol:Who knows. Maybe he did show her pictures of them and everything, after all most of Kimmy was relegated to offscreenville. Maybe because he had only know her for _____ months it just wasn't what Kara was looking for. After all, all we got to see of them was what crossed with Pete's stride arc so it's hard to say what he even tried.

Jimmy is a good boyfriend. The only things I've heard are he failed to save Kara, when that should have been Clark's job because he had the information. He was jealous, wow crime of the century, that's actually what made me decide I wanted to be more then friends with my current boyfriend, I got jealous of him paying attention to another girl, it's a bit of an indicator that you care when you get jealous that someone else might have a special place, and it shows that he trusts her and is mature when he was able to move past it. That he thought Kara was attractive when he was dating Chloe... gee Chloe thought Oliver was attractive when she was dating Jimmy, you don't lose your eyes just cause you are in love or in a relationship. Oh and that apparently he is ruining the chance for Chlark, even though the people who are doing that are Chloe and Clark. :rolleyes:

All about Clark
03-20-2008, 11:56 AM
No he's a bad boyfriend cause he's stupid.Of course you've lost the spark she lost her memory you idiot.

Agreed, Jimmy was not being fair to dump Kara just because she lost her memory.

And it wasn't right to approach Chloe when he just had a date with Kara. Whether a break-up scene happened offscreneville or not, you just don't date someone, break up on the date and ask someone else out on the same day.

And Borednow, wow you really love Jimmy and probably letting that affect your judgement as to the above which are facts.

aqgalaxy
03-20-2008, 12:00 PM
Now hold on a minute, how can you possibly say that? out of the two of them, Jimmy has consistently shown more backbone than clark; he's put his ass on the line to protect chloe, and he's one of the few characters in the show with actual charisma

Emperor you do have a point.

smallvillelogan
03-20-2008, 04:54 PM
Isn't it a show that he is a good boyfriend if he does wait until they get back from being missing to break up with them? If he had attempted to re-kindle with Chloe when he was still dating Kara that would have made him a bit of a jerk, he waited until Kara came back gave it one last try then broke up with her.

This is true.

[/QUOTE] Why didn't he have a memory box for Kara? Maybe because she was his rebound girl and he didn't collect souvenirs or maybe after what happened with the last memory box he just thought they lead to heart break :lol:Who knows. Maybe he did show her pictures of them and everything, after all most of Kimmy was relegated to offscreenville. Maybe because he had only know her for _____ months it just wasn't what Kara was looking for. After all, all we got to see of them was what crossed with Pete's stride arc so it's hard to say what he even tried. [/QUOTE]

Memory box? This is definitely a girl sort of thing. I don't keep memory boxes from special times with my girlfriend... hmm, I wonder if she does though? :lol:

[/QUOTE] He was jealous, wow crime of the century, that's actually what made me decide I wanted to be more then friends with my current boyfriend, I got jealous of him paying attention to another girl, it's a bit of an indicator that you care when you get jealous that someone else might have a special place, and it shows that he trusts her and is mature when he was able to move past it. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

That's true, jealousy does reveal inner feelings.

constantine
03-20-2008, 07:37 PM
Emperor you do have a point.

Grazie, Bella :)

borednow
03-21-2008, 05:44 AM
Agreed, Jimmy was not being fair to dump Kara just because she lost her memory.

And it wasn't right to approach Chloe when he just had a date with Kara. Whether a break-up scene happened offscreneville or not, you just don't date someone, break up on the date and ask someone else out on the same day.

And Borednow, wow you really love Jimmy and probably letting that affect your judgement as to the above which are facts.

Yes I like Jimmy, he's nice and fun to watch. Facts such as they broke up on the same day he talked to Chloe? Sorry but we don't know that. It could have been anywhere from an hour to 3-4 days with how time runs in Smallville. Jimmy also seemed interested in going back to Chloe in Gemini but was a good boyfriend and waited for Kara to return. Also I'm sorry some people actually lose there memory and don't get it back, so Jimmy's reluctance to wait for her memory to return to see if the spark is still there makes some sense if we ignore it's a TV show, I mean Jimmy doesn't know it's a TV show. I mean we know we just have to wait a few episodes, but he doesn't. From the sound of it as well memory less Kara decided they lacked spark as well. He didn't leave her crying because she couldn't remember him. I'm sorry but there are other legitimate interpretations of the complete lack of facts we have that don't point to Jimmy being a bad boyfriend or a jerk. You chose to read between the lines that way. I think you have let your dislike of jimmy affect your judgment as to what is and isn't a fact.

queenelizabeth
03-24-2008, 07:38 AM
A Jimmy and Lex showdown wouldn't be pretty. If Jimmy had stood up to Lex for Kara, Lex would have used that as a way to turn Kara against Jimmy.

jimmyolsenblues
03-24-2008, 07:40 AM
how could jimmy be judged a bad boyfriend when chloe loves clark more than jimmy?

Jaderoyale
03-24-2008, 07:41 AM
how could jimmy be judged a bad boyfriend when chloe loves clark more than jimmy?


Point well made :)

jazel
04-17-2008, 12:56 AM
Tough to be any kind of boyfriend, when your girl, is "glued" to another guy's side.:p
Poor Jimmy, I really felt for him, after watching a clip of a Lo and Jimmy scene, in Descent.:(
Maybe Lucy, will come and visit Lo, in S8 ?;)

ginnyfan
04-17-2008, 01:25 AM
Yes I like Jimmy, he's nice and fun to watch. Facts such as they broke up on the same day he talked to Chloe? Sorry but we don't know that. It could have been anywhere from an hour to 3-4 days with how time runs in Smallville. Jimmy also seemed interested in going back to Chloe in Gemini but was a good boyfriend and waited for Kara to return. Also I'm sorry some people actually lose there memory and don't get it back, so Jimmy's reluctance to wait for her memory to return to see if the spark is still there makes some sense if we ignore it's a TV show, I mean Jimmy doesn't know it's a TV show. I mean we know we just have to wait a few episodes, but he doesn't. From the sound of it as well memory less Kara decided they lacked spark as well. He didn't leave her crying because she couldn't remember him. I'm sorry but there are other legitimate interpretations of the complete lack of facts we have that don't point to Jimmy being a bad boyfriend or a jerk. You chose to read between the lines that way. I think you have let your dislike of jimmy affect your judgment as to what is and isn't a fact.

Yes I agree. There's a lack of facts. Some people choose to fill in the blanks with Jimmy being a jerk to memory-less Kara and not helping her. But from what I know of Jimmy, I'll fill in the blanks with Kara not telling him about her quest or her leads and the Kara/Jimmy breakup being mutual.

At the very least, I need more actual info before deciding that Jimmy is a bad boyfriend and/or jerk.

Kal26
06-24-2008, 11:22 AM
I think Jimmy's a bit too needy to be a good boyfriend really. In my opinion, he seems to always get needy right when his "girl" has something really important going on in her life. Then he uses the excuse that she doesn't have time for him, or their relationship. He seems more like a girlfriend than a boyfriend to me. I think he needs to gain some self confidence, and learn to let his "girl" be her own person. Only then will he find satisfaction in a relationship. I'm basing my opinion on my general observations of the character on Smallville, not any one situation per say, but just the way I've interpreted his overall personality.

I should also state that he seems to be getting better with every episode. I think he's really starting to come in to his own.

alejandrita439
08-12-2008, 07:18 PM
mmm i dunno ...
and i dont care :/