Hero - Worst Smallville Episode Ever?

[musictech]

It has to at least be the worst one in recent memory, if not the whole show. I just hope it was scripted and filmed during the writers strike.

Lets ignore the fact that bringing back Pete was pointless in the first place. But could they not have come up with a better concept than gum or stretchy arms and legs? First when do band perform in factories, and secondly how did Kryptonite get to a gum manufacturing facility in Metropolis and not be discovered for several years? Shouldn't there be a bunch of stretchy people running around, especially since that box that he took the gum from was opened and was on top of a pallette of the other gum? Seems like there should be a stride class action law suit filed by all the stretchy people they infected. Next why does Pete take one bite of the gum and immediately swallow it? Seemed very much like a gum commercial. I was waiting to see Pete's unknown twin come out and start singing the double mint song. Plus evidently that gum not only affects Pete but Pete's clothing. When he stretched his hand into the safe, his watch went with it. Well I guess with all that Kryptonite laced gum out there creating an army of stretchy people, there must be a market for stretchy watches must be easy to find.

Beside the general stupidity and mistakes in the episode, just Pete his acting and the way they wrote his character just bothered me. Pete has been gone all this time and is still hung up on Clark. He whinned for the better part of the episode. Seems like he needs to move on in more ways they one.

[SuperFan85]

I'm sorry, but I don't consider this the worst episode in recent memory. In my opinion, "Subterannean" is one of the worst episodes of Smallville. As is "Thirst".

[98chase]

Lets ignore the fact that bringing back Pete was pointless in the first place. But could they not have come up with a better concept than gum or stretchy arms and legs? First when do band perform in factories, and secondly how did Kryptonite get to a gum manufacturing facility in Metropolis and not be discovered for several years? Shouldn't there be a bunch of stretchy people running around, especially since that box that he took the gum from was opened and was on top of a pallette of the other gum? Seems like there should be a stride class action law suit filed by all the stretchy people they infected. Next why does Pete take one bite of the gum and immediately swallow it? Seemed very much like a gum commercial. I was waiting to see Pete's unknown twin come out and start singing the double mint song. Plus evidently that gum not only affects Pete but Pete's clothing. When he stretched his hand into the safe, his watch went with it. Well I guess with all that Kryptonite laced gum out there creating an army of stretchy people, there must be a market for stretchy watches must be easy to find.


I swallow gum after three or four chews, apparently the writers of my life suck at their job too.

Oh, and while we are at it, how have people not noticed that Clark maintains an entire farm by himself? Or that he never gets sick or injured? Why hasn't the cell phone company noticed that Clark jumps 15 phone towers in a second or two? How come Clark always has new clothes, none of them ever seem dirty like the work clothes of normal farmers? Also, how come Clark's clothes get messed up when he is in a fire/explosion or something of that nature, but Superman's suit nor cape ever get ruined? How come tv series can't raise money on their own, like on the side or something? Why do they need sponsors/ads? Isn't that the production companies job, to front the production money so that the show can be produced?

[Humdinger]

^^^^LOL, Holy cow, Chase, lay off the Red Bull - omg, I think I made a joke!

[highdro_pharmer]

^^^^LOL, Holy cow, Chase, lay off the Red Bull - omg, I think I made a joke!

Bahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Congratulations!

[clana4everfan2]

Pete's powers were lame and the writing was kind of cheesy along with the way the Stride product placement was used in this episode. Who knows Writer's Strike was probably happening when this was being filmed. It is what it is so time to move on ppl. Cheer up hopefully better episodes to come. :)

[Hopefulsuicide]

it was awful, the only reason i havent complained about it myself is that it doesnt stand out as particularly awful in the mass of awful episodes that have been around since the beginning... and things are getting worse, not better

when smallville becomes consistently good, then you can call an episode like hero awful... on the scale of things, i'd say it was an average episode

i make a very sad 'LOL'

[Ardiem3]

"Hero" was no way near the worst episode of the series. I liked it, and I dont see how one can put "Hero" in the same category as "Thirst."

[Welling_is_pretty]

While I didn't care much for Hero I do not think it was the worst episode of Smallville ever (there are several that were way worse--Ageless anyone?).

It was disappointing to be sure (especially since, on the whole, I've been enjoying Season 6; to me it's much better SV than we've had in a while!) but not the worst by a long shot.

I can understand why you might feel that way though.

Oh and Pete's powers, for those who don't know, are an homage to powers the Jimmy Olsen once had in the Superman comics (he was known as Elastic-Lad and even joined the Legion of Super-Heroes for a time).

[Hopefulsuicide]

"Hero" was no way near the worst episode of the series. I liked it, and I dont see how one can put "Hero" in the same category as "Thirst."

i liked thirst!

lol

[rebukey]

I'm not sure I would say it was the worst episode ever, but it is up there. I could get over the product placement and the superpowered premise, but I had such high expectations when I heard that Pete was coming back and Hero lived up to none of them. I liked Pete ok back in the day, but he was never one of my favorites. With Lex in town the Clark/Pete friendship started to fizzle out, and even when Pete found out Clark's secret he was never a good sidekick. He left with his mom basically because he could stand the pressure. But that was over 3 years ago. You'd think that Pete would have grown up some since then, but from this episode it doesn't seem like he has. This episode would have been much better if the writers had focused more on character development than a meteor power. It was a filler episode. You know, one of those that you skip over when watching it on DVD.

Why hasn't the cell phone company noticed that Clark jumps 15 phone towers in a second or two?

lol, I never thought about that! very true :)

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I'm sorry, but I don't consider this the worst episode in recent memory. In my opinion, "Subterannean" is one of the worst episodes of Smallville. As is "Thirst".

ironically I really liked both those episodes :)

[jimmyolsenblues]

i think it was bad but not as bad as that krypto girl who could make plants grow.
but the similar plots of krypto freaks should let the writers know, if you constantly look for anti-heroes of kryptonite, eventually the plots will thin out is true.
Let Clark use his mind, let clark solve a real life-ish type of crime.
let the BDA grow....please writers put the green meteor rocks away for a little while...please.

[Ardiem3]

i liked thirst!

lol

Ehh, it had its moments but many would say its one of the all time worst.

[Hopefulsuicide]

above ageless?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ardiem3]

above ageless?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haha, well...

[Twitch]

i liked thirst!

lol
Ehh, it had its moments but many would say its one of the all time worst.
Yeah Thirst wasn't great that's for sure, I liked Chloe's narration though, especially at the end.

"Okay, so it's actually the basement, but it's the Daily Planet. The paper of record for kings, presidents, and prime ministers...not to mention future superheroes. The way I look at it, I had no place to go but up, up, and away."

As for Hero it's not the worst episode ever, but it's definitely not one of the best either! :lol:

[borednow]

It sucked but not the worst.

[SweetOne]

Let Clark use his mind, let clark solve a real life-ish type of crime.

I would LOVE to see Clark "save the day" in more real-life crime. It wouldn't have to even be on the grand-scale of Superman yet, just effecting the world around him by using his powers to stop petty crime would be awesome. Just SOMETHING!!! I would love to see the show interjected with scenes of Clark...I dunno...they could make a scene of him going out to buy more red t-shirts or even underwear...and in the process Clark stops a kid stealing in a department store...LOL... I can see Clark being consciencious of ALL crimes, because he's supposed to be a very moral character.

I don't think it would be cheesy. The scenes of Clark helping in a small way might be amusing but they would also be endearing. It would show that he CARES about using his powers for good!! We definitely need to see him using them on a day to day basis to fight realistic crime not just kryptonite induced havoc....

BTW...I just have to say that I did not HATE subterannean. I have just never seen a more universally trashed episode!! I especially loved the ending....Lex's pimp walk was great! An episode is only as good as it's best scene and I saw nothing in hero that was better than Lex's scene at the end of subterranean.

The product placement was terrible!!! I honestly don't think they could have plastered any more Stride banners/posters on the Smallville set, although I'm sure they wanted to. I really think that Hero was one of the worst episodes of SV. Nothing special for certain.

[Ardiem3]

Yeah Thirst wasn't great that's for sure, I liked Chloe's narration though, especially at the end.

"Okay, so it's actually the basement, but it's the Daily Planet. The paper of record for kings, presidents, and prime ministers...not to mention future superheroes. The way I look at it, I had no place to go but up, up, and away."

As for Hero it's not the worst episode ever, but it's definitely not one of the best either! :lol:

That was a great quote. I dont see what everyones problem was with "Hero?" It had great continuity and the return of Pete. Everyone wanted Pete to return, and when he does, they complain about every aspect. I guess theres no pleasing some people :(

[Jaderoyale]

It wasn't exactly something special, but it wasn't the worst episode of SV ever.
For me, that was "Ageless,"

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i liked thirst!

lol

Don't worry, so did i! :lol:


That was a great quote. I dont see what everyones problem was with "Hero?" It had great continuity and the return of Pete. Everyone wanted Pete to return, and when he does, they complain about every aspect. I guess theres no pleasing some people :(

I think its because Pete left 4 years ago, and everyone expected something much more spectacular for his return :\

[musictech]

I think its because Pete left 4 years ago, and everyone expected something much more spectacular for his return :\

Actually I thought the concept of Pete returning was kind of stupid in the first place. In the last couple of seasons he was on the show, his character became pointless. It didn't bother me a bit when he left the show. To bring him back in the same manner as he left just made it worse than if he never had come back at all. If they wanted to bring him back, do so gradually. Show some IM messages on Chloe's or Lana's computer. Maybe an email message. How about a high school reunion or sorts.

I think I know what they were going for. They were trying to use Pete as a way to show Clark the importance of hiding his identity and at the same time give Pete a turning point in his life. I think they could have done it with a better lead in though. What makes this episode the worst in my opinion is the shameless hour long gum commercial. That more than anything screwed up the episode. I am to the point now that I hope they declare season 8 to be the final season. Also, if they do any more Smallville infomercials like this last week I think they will find that Season 7 DVD sales are going to be in the can as well.

[Ardiem3]

It wasn't exactly something special, but it wasn't the worst episode of SV ever.
For me, that was "Ageless,"

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Don't worry, so did i! :lol:




I think its because Pete left 4 years ago, and everyone expected something much more spectacular for his return :\

Still, they wanted him to return, and he did, and it may not have been the best ever, but i still enjoyed it and i liked his return.

[princesslaya]

"Hero" was no way near the worst episode of the series. I liked it, and I dont see how one can put "Hero" in the same category as "Thirst."

I think both of thoes eppy's were pretty cheesy! :D

I dont believe "Thrist" or "Hero" were bad eppy's because there are a few that just completly sucked ("Ageless" or "Wither") :( dont get me started!!!

but I think that the storyline of 'Hero" just could have been better. I would have like to have seen Pete be what his character use to be without the arms.:D

[MidgardDragon]

Oh look, we have this thread on yet another episode. Guess what? Every episode is considered someone's worst, if you believe what the forums say. Could it possibly be that *gasp* you and others just didn't like it?

It became pretty obvious to me after viewing it that people just didn't get that they MEANT for it to be cheesy and fun, not an outright great episode. For this reason it may have resulted in a few more people than normal thinking "worst ever" but that hardly qualified it for being so.

I guarantee anyone who viewed it with a "meant to be funny and cheesy" vibe in mind didn't come out thinking it was the worst ever.

[thehenry89]

What a waste pete's return to the show. This episode was almost as bad as promise (the absolute worst episode IMHO). The only good thing about this ep was getting to see lex be even more evil then usual.

[Kryptongurl07]

The rest of this season has been incredible. I guess they were bound to have a sucky episode sooner or later.

Still, Thirst, Subterranean, and Ageless are way up there. Hero can join them and they can have a Lame-Episode pizza party or something.

[Yankeefan]

yujuyuyj

[Ardiem3]

I think both of thoes eppy's were pretty cheesy! :D

I dont believe "Thrist" or "Hero" were bad eppy's because there are a few that just completly sucked ("Ageless" or "Wither") :( dont get me started!!!

but I think that the storyline of 'Hero" just could have been better. I would have like to have seen Pete be what his character use to be without the arms.:D

I believe they gave Pete the stretchy arms and abilities of the sort so that for once, he could set out to help Clark, instead of Clark always being there for Pete.

[megsy]

For me i think Wrath was pretty bad... the whole super sex thing...arhhhh!

[Ardiem3]

For me i think Wrath was pretty bad... the whole super sex thing...arhhhh!

That was pretty funny. The earthquake. I liked how Lana got a real time experience how it is to be Clark.

[megsy]

Yeah i did like Lana getting to see what it was like being Clark but i didn't like Clark not even thinking about getting Lana pregnant. Naughty Clark!

[ginnyfan]

The rest of this season has been incredible. I guess they were bound to have a sucky episode sooner or later.

Still, Thirst, Subterranean, and Ageless are way up there. Hero can join them and they can have a Lame-Episode pizza party or something.

:rotfl:

After they finish their pizza they can chew some stride gum.

[vyperman7]

What I find to be hilarious is that I don't really like the show anymore, and I find myself disliking episodes in the last few years more often than not. But the one time I actually enjoy an episode, a lot of people are complaining about how bad it was. To say Hero is the worst episode of Smallville ever, is BS in my opinion. There are so many worse episodes then Hero.

Hero had the return of a past character, great continuity with the mythos, a few nice twists, and a couple of cool things to make the overall season progress. Now I am not saying it was a perfect episode. I had my gripes with it. But it has been one of the more enjoyable episodes this season in my opinion.

[Ardiem3]

What I find to be hilarious is that I don't really like the show anymore, and I find myself disliking episodes in the last few years more often than not. But the one time I actually enjoy an episode, a lot of people are complaining about how bad it was. To say Hero is the worst episode of Smallville ever, is BS in my opinion. There are so many worse episodes then Hero.

Hero had the return of a past character, great continuity with the mythos, a few nice twists, and a couple of cool things to make the overall season progress. Now I am not saying it was a perfect episode. I had my gripes with it. But it has been one of the more enjoyable episodes this season in my opinion.

True to all of this. If it wasnt for some parts of "Fierce," I wouldnt think too much of it. I liked the Kara/Clark scenes and the continuity that it had.

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Yeah i did like Lana getting to see what it was like being Clark but i didn't like Clark not even thinking about getting Lana pregnant. Naughty Clark!

Hey, thats right, they never thought of the possibility of Clark getting Lana pregnant. I suppose he wore protection.

[Aldo]

Hero was cooL..! I was waiting for the Worse thanks to you guys... But I liked it, it was like earlier seasons, I could have totally see a scene where Chloe, Clark and Pete are hanging at in The Torch!

So no buying your opinions anymore. I have learn that ppl overreact so much, but It wasn't the Worst episode ever, not at all.

[Mars Investigations]

Ugh..."Craving".

[Jaderoyale]

I just watched Hero again :lol:
And it really wasn't that bad. *sigh*

[Ardiem3]

I just watched Hero again :lol:
And it really wasn't that bad. *sigh*

It really wasnt, but it could have been better, I guess, although I still like it the way it is.

[Lostfan588]

It was just plain ridiculous, what was the point of bringing Pete back after all these seasons just to be no more than a fotw who had very little to contribute to Clark's development. Not to mention wth was up with not a single Clark, Pete, and Chloe scene together in the entire thing?

[constantine]

What I find to be hilarious is that I don't really like the show anymore, and I find myself disliking episodes in the last few years more often than not. But the one time I actually enjoy an episode, a lot of people are complaining about how bad it was. To say Hero is the worst episode of Smallville ever, is BS in my opinion. There are so many worse episodes then Hero.

Hero had the return of a past character, great continuity with the mythos, a few nice twists, and a couple of cool things to make the overall season progress. Now I am not saying it was a perfect episode. I had my gripes with it. But it has been one of the more enjoyable episodes this season in my opinion.

See...I'm the same as you - you got to see clark looking out for his friends, you got lex being a complete bastard, and you finally had some groundwork to pointing out why the superhero industry has such a big policy on keeping a secret, and, to boot, I actually quite like the soundtrack - I really can't sing the praises of the episode enough, not least of all because it was a guy episode without half the melodrama that the female leads inevitably bring with their respective roles, and the whole storyline of kara getting involved with lex actually nods towards and respects canon a hell of a lot more than anything else smallville has done in the past...All in all, credit where credit is due, kudos to the wonder twins for coming up with an episode I enjoyed.

[Ardiem3]

It was just plain ridiculous, what was the point of bringing Pete back after all these seasons just to be no more than a fotw who had very little to contribute to Clark's development. Not to mention wth was up with not a single Clark, Pete, and Chloe scene together in the entire thing?

I dont know, but we cant pick at it. We should be happy that Pete came back at all...

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

^^No we should't, we should be annoyed that Pete was used as a gimmick to make a below average episode have more viewers but not be any better for it. Did it even get more viewers?

[Ardiem3]

^^No we should't, we should be annoyed that Pete was used as a gimmick to make a below average episode have more viewers but not be any better for it. Did it even get more viewers?

Its all about opinon. You can hate it if you want, but I like it and enjoyed it for what it was and is.

[constantine]

^^No we should't, we should be annoyed that Pete was used as a gimmick to make a below average episode have more viewers but not be any better for it. Did it even get more viewers?

You are remembering this is smallville right? do yourself a favour - go into plymouth to the comic book shop down on the barbican, and pick up a couple of issues of superman - then you'll realise that "below average" is a trademark of smallville.

[Hopefulsuicide]

What I find to be hilarious is that I don't really like the show anymore, and I find myself disliking episodes in the last few years more often than not. But the one time I actually enjoy an episode, a lot of people are complaining about how bad it was. To say Hero is the worst episode of Smallville ever, is BS in my opinion. There are so many worse episodes then Hero.

Hero had the return of a past character, great continuity with the mythos, a few nice twists, and a couple of cool things to make the overall season progress. Now I am not saying it was a perfect episode. I had my gripes with it. But it has been one of the more enjoyable episodes this season in my opinion.

Lol, i know the feeling... however, i didnt enjoy hero

i enjoyed Thirst, but everyone hated that too... so i know how you feel

my enjoyment of smallville is completely tainted, i watched from the first moment and i truly liked the show for the first season... but since then its just been something for me to moan about... and yet i still watch

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^^No we should't, we should be annoyed that Pete was used as a gimmick to make a below average episode have more viewers but not be any better for it. Did it even get more viewers?

totally agree with you

i would rather not have ever seen pete again, than have him come back as an immature, whining about the same stuff he left behind years ago, hot headed arrogant prat

says alot about the show though... you look at pete from season 1 and then look at him now... still moaning about the same problems, but in a horrible and gimmicky way

[berniepooh]

I'm sorry, but I don't consider this the worst episode in recent memory. In my opinion, "Subterannean" is one of the worst episodes of Smallville. As is "Thirst".

I have to agree with on these points.

[constantine]

totally agree with you

i would rather not have ever seen pete again, than have him come back as an immature, whining about the same stuff he left behind years ago, hot headed arrogant prat

says alot about the show though... you look at pete from season 1 and then look at him now... still moaning about the same problems, but in a horrible and gimmicky way

o0 that's different from the emo angst ridden meolodrama that is smallville....how?

[Hopefulsuicide]

its not

whats your point?

[constantine]

its not

whats your point?

My point is, my dear, that if you watch smallville and you know smallville is emo, teenage angst ridden drivel, then you really shouldn't be surprised when the wonder twins deliver on just that thing - As I've said though, I found hero a lot more tolerable than a lot of the episodes in the past 6 seasons, so I won't complain.

[Welling_is_pretty]

BTW...I just have to say that I did not HATE subterannean. I have just never seen a more universally trashed episode!!
*cough*Ageless*cough*
:lol:

now that's a universally trashed episode!

[Hopefulsuicide]

My point is, my dear, that if you watch smallville and you know smallville is emo, teenage angst ridden drivel, then you really shouldn't be surprised when the wonder twins deliver on just that thing - As I've said though, I found hero a lot more tolerable than a lot of the episodes in the past 6 seasons, so I won't complain.

i'm posting in a thread talking about why hero was a bad episode, and your pointing out that i shouldnt be saying why it was bad

doesnt matter that it's always that way, i think its bad, and i think it was particularly bad in this episode

[constantine]

i'm posting in a thread talking about why hero was a bad episode, and your pointing out that i shouldnt be saying why it was bad

doesnt matter that it's always that way, i think its bad, and i think it was particularly bad in this episode

And I'm saying that it's one of the better out of a bad bunch :p

[Hopefulsuicide]

okay then... well thats fine :p

[All about Clark]

[B]I would rather not have ever seen pete again, than have him come back as an immature, whining about the same stuff he left behind years ago, hot headed arrogant prat

says alot about the show though... you look at pete from season 1 and then look at him now... still moaning about the same problems, but in a horrible and gimmicky way[/QUOTE]

Actually I do think it was important for the PTB to establish a character that really struggled with Clark's secret and that couldn't handle it. I think that's why Chloe is so special to Clark because she embraced it even though it's difficult. And Lana has a third reaction to the secret that I think she hasn't even decided on yet, like she is still working on it and her place in Clark's life. And I think Pete coming back and still has unresolved feelings is an interesting take on a person who has difficulties with Clark's secret. It obviously isn't for everyone and it explains why Superman has to be so private about his identity because Pete is acting like millions would be. Chloe is the rare one, not Pete. So even though we as viewers are disappointed by Pete, we needed to see that.

[Hopefulsuicide]

well said actually

hadnt thought of it like that... guess i do see the need for someone to react that way

guess im only annoyed cause i loved pete, and they used him to show the weakness in humans... which i didnt think pete was

[AlwaysRight]

definantly not a great episodes but there many others i would put ahead for worst episode ever.

My vote goes to Spell

[Welling_is_pretty]

definantly not a great episodes but there many others i would put ahead for worst episode ever.

My vote goes to Spell
I had forgotten all about Spell (blanked it out due to trauma?). Yeah, Spell was bad but I still say Ageless was worse.

[pizzaguy19]

What I find to be hilarious is that I don't really like the show anymore, and I find myself disliking episodes in the last few years more often than not. But the one time I actually enjoy an episode, a lot of people are complaining about how bad it was. To say Hero is the worst episode of Smallville ever, is BS in my opinion. There are so many worse episodes then Hero.

Hero had the return of a past character, great continuity with the mythos, a few nice twists, and a couple of cool things to make the overall season progress. Now I am not saying it was a perfect episode. I had my gripes with it. But it has been one of the more enjoyable episodes this season in my opinion.

The only "progression" was a tiny bit about Lionel, which might or might not be a big deal. Possibly Kara getting the ball rolling for the 5th Lex marriage.

The rest of this episode was total crap. Pete came strolling back into town and acted like a total *******. He's STILL freaking complaining about being in Clark's shadow. HOLY CRAP, grow up already man. What do you think the other 6.5 billion people do on this planet? They don't have super powers. They find jobs, careers, just fine.

It POSSIBLY set up Pete becoming a Politician (I hope that's what he meant), that's about the best case scenario for him.

He showed the same irrational judgment and complete lack of thinking that annoyed me about his character before he left. What a lame episode to do a 1 epi return of a major character. It was just a freak of the week episode, nothing more.

Also, /gag, Clana is back to completely ignoring everything that happened, even freaking CHIMMY happened in this terrible, horrible episode. Now we've even got Karex, or Kex maybe it's called?

[Chloe_is_my_Hero]

Pretty bad episode. It is the worst I remember. I felt sorry for Sam Jones. He deserved better. I instantly feel annoyed now everytime I see a pack of Stride.

[Tacosupes]

It's forum braindead logic that any episode with a FOTW is automatically garbage. Newsflash,this show is based off a COMIC BOOK. There will always be a FOTW,or magic stone,or time travel gimmick. Deal with it. This put Clark and Pete almost on the same playing field,ie not helpless. Anyway, Sam Jones III did a stellar job portraying pete,it was as if he never left. Allison Mack had great chemistry with him. Nowabays you thing of Chloew as a grown woman, but seeing her with pete reminded me of the quirky high school girl she was. It was like a high school reuinon.


anyway there could have been an episode with Clark pete Lana and Chloe just chit chatting at the Talon, but the ratings would tank. And it wouldve been tearfully boring.
NO SFX, no one for Clark to rescue. Anything post season 3 will be action packed andover the top. Thats how the show is now. The days of understated action and episode based mainly on personal interactions have been dead since season 3.

Loved the episode, loved the MUSIC, and it was worth seeing PETE back after all this time. This is the BEST special guest episode EVER. I love how Smallville has such great continuity.

[Hopefulsuicide]

It's forum braindead logic that any episode with a FOTW is automatically garbage. Newsflash,this show is based off a COMIC BOOK. There will always be a FOTW,or magic stone,or time travel gimmick. Deal with it. This put Clark and Pete almost on the same playing field,ie not helpless. Anyway, Sam Jones III did a stellar job portraying pete,it was as if he never left. Allison Mack had great chemistry with him. Nowabays you thing of Chloew as a grown woman, but seeing her with pete reminded me of the quirky high school girl she was. It was like a high school reuinon.


anyway there could have been an episode with Clark pete Lana and Chloe just chit chatting at the Talon, but the ratings would tank. And it wouldve been tearfully boring.
NO SFX, no one for Clark to rescue. Anything post season 3 will be action packed andover the top. Thats how the show is now. The days of understated action and episode based mainly on personal interactions have been dead since season 3.

Loved the episode, loved the MUSIC, and it was worth seeing PETE back after all this time. This is the BEST special guest episode EVER. I love how Smallville has such great continuity.

smallville has absolutely the worst continuity of any tv show i watch

this episode was the worst guest star episode of smallville i've seen, because the guest star had not progressed at all since he had been gone, he was used as a tool to show human weakness, and it hurt anyone who actually liked pete before

not every fotw episode gets slaughtered. i actually miss fotw's... it's how the show started

the overall premise of the episode, while being quite scary, is not what leads to the negative conclusions... it's the execution of it

[Tacosupes]

Yes Pete did make a hard right turn during the basketball scene. Even though he was influenced by kryptonite, and even though he was OBVIOUSLY angry at Clark for being stupid enough to trust Lionel Luthor (Luthor knew the key to controlling Clark for over twenty years, and after knowing he's not a threat , and locking him in a kryptonite box,he CARRIES the key to the box in zurich rather than simply DESTROYING IT). But still, it was a HARD right turn to threaten to expose Clarks secret.

Clark only outs other freaks secret if they are killing people or otherwise a threat to society. Pete's threat about turning Clark in proved to be a hollow threat, ashe refused to give up Kara's bracelet. But still, some things you don't threaten even in a bluff. Over all it had great directing. I especially liked how the director had the presence of mind to show how the concert noise covered Pete's screams.


And Smallvile always had continutiy, they always carry over and reference events of episodes past, no matter how long agao. Pete was still talking about his parents losing Their factory(s1), his parents divorce(s3). They Called him "the Boss" (S3) And he and Clark still played basketball by the barn, just like old times. No continuity? are you crazy? On TOP of all that,they Kept the CURRENT storyline FLOWING with Kara's memory loss, and LEX's suspicion CHLOE was helping the Green Arrow steal his files (found out through the black canary) was Great CONTINUITY. He locked her out of her computer so she cant do it again. It's REALLY stupid and thoughtless to use HERO as an example of Smallville not having continuity. Whatever its a message board, not mensa. Can't expect intelligent, well developed thoughts being presented on the internet.


It's too bad I had to wait so long to talk about this episode, but this board is RIFE with spoiler-spilling idiots. They always spout off unsolicited spoilers in the CURRENT EPISODE FORUM, the wrong forum for that by the way. I had to wait until the season was over to even think about coming here. The spoiler spammers live to ruin the season for other people who would rather be surprised by the show. The mods on this forum dont do their jobs and edit out the spoilers that dont belong, or punish and discourage the jerks who post them here. The problem is K-site appoints the people with the most posts as mods, and the flaw with that is anyone with 5,000 posts is an obvious slacker so they don't do their job. They probally don't take their real life job seriously either , if they even have one,so why should k-site be any different. Really they should hire professionals to do the modding. Then maybe people could post in the forum without the fear of having their whole season ruined.