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xrayvision
02-14-2008, 07:52 PM
I was amazed by what Clark told young Lex ("I will always watch out for you"). That was by far the best scene of the episode. I just hope he follows that up with action.

This was simply an amazing moment in Smallville. Awesome.

thehenry89
02-14-2008, 07:53 PM
I agree, this is my new favorite episode this season.

MarkAllan22
02-14-2008, 07:53 PM
I agree. It was a moment to show why Superman never just lets Lex die.

savingpeoplething
02-14-2008, 08:19 PM
It was a moment to show why Superman never just lets Lex die.

I love the idea that Superman doesn't give up on people and looks for the best in everyone.

I also thought it was very Supermanly of Clark to go back for Alexander, even when he needed to get out through the red door. Loved that it showed that Superman doesn't want anyone to die and would give his life to save someone else, especially, a child.

clana4everfan2
02-14-2008, 08:23 PM
That was a great moment for SV. CK is finally growing up and becoming the hero we know & love regardless of him wearing the suit or not in this series. haha :)

sabi908
02-14-2008, 08:26 PM
I don't understand why Supes saves Lex...I mean Lex is comparable to the likes of Bin-Laden...would we give Bin Laden a chance to repent...I don't think so.

pixiedust
02-14-2008, 08:31 PM
I don't understand why Supes saves Lex...I mean Lex is comparable to the likes of Bin-Laden...would we give Bin Laden a chance to repent...I don't think so.


Going with the Clark is a parallel to Christ metaphor, which the show has used several times, yes he would. That was the point being made. Clark/Superman always looks for the good in people and he always wants to believe it's there.

sabi908
02-14-2008, 08:35 PM
Going with the Clark is a parallel to Christ metaphor, which the show has used several times, yes he would. That was the point being made. Clark/Superman always looks for the good in people and he always wants to believe it's there.
How is Clark parallel to Christ except when it comes to saving people...

He's not going to die for anyone's salvation now is he?

I think it's rather stupid on his part to let Lex get away with this repeatedly and cause more harm to people in the process...it's pretty apparent (through the movies and comics) that Lex isn't going to change.

xrayvision
02-14-2008, 09:03 PM
The main point is that he still saw good in Lex (the part of him that is still fighting) and as long as that exists, he will never give up on him. He is an eternal optimist.

minerva73
02-14-2008, 09:08 PM
I don't understand why Supes saves Lex...I mean Lex is comparable to the likes of Bin-Laden...would we give Bin Laden a chance to repent...I don't think so.

Now he sees the good side within Lex to know that there's the friend in him that was there before. He always thought that the friendly side of Lex was gone, but it's still there. As for Bin-Laden, I doubt that most people who want him dead know of any good side of him or at least have talked to him happily. And if they did, then I guess that the person would give them a second chance.

Ginx
02-14-2008, 09:08 PM
That was a great moment for SV. CK is finally growing up and becoming the hero we know & love regardless of him wearing the suit or not in this series. haha :)

I just hope they keep that attitude and confidence of his going throughout the next episodes - sometimes he's right where he should be as far as being a hero and then the next episode he's knocked back down a few notches again to a sidekick......

superspider02
02-14-2008, 09:20 PM
Yea i agree he was very supermanish with the whole "I will always watch out for you". Also as another poster said yea clark is always looking for the best in people and he doesnt want to lose that hope there is good in people.

Nospam
02-14-2008, 09:22 PM
Yes, it was refreshing, but how about we see some of that maturity and responsibility in the real world (beyond the short scene at the end of the episode)?

smallvillelogan
02-14-2008, 09:29 PM
How is Clark parallel to Christ except when it comes to saving people...

He's not going to die for anyone's salvation now is he?

I think it's rather stupid on his part to let Lex get away with this repeatedly and cause more harm to people in the process...it's pretty apparent (through the movies and comics) that Lex isn't going to change.

That's the point, buddy. This is SMALLVILLE, BEFORE ANYBODY, INCLUDING CLARK, KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT LEX WILL BECOME. It's not like Clark is gonna go up to Lex and say, "Uh, well, in the movies and comics, you're not gonna change, so I'm just going to give up on ya."
Sorry dude, that wasn't the smartest comment that I've seen.

superman07
02-14-2008, 09:45 PM
Yea that was a good moment for everyone i think. Maybe now we'll see more Superman Clark and less Smallville Clark. By that i mean, less naive-minded, no more lost in Lana 24/7,and maybe start to listen to Jor-El's warnings.

theotherJane
02-14-2008, 09:49 PM
Yea that was a good moment for everyone i think. Maybe now we'll see more Superman Clark and less Smallville Clark. By that i mean, less naive-minded, no more lost in Lana 24/7,and maybe start to listen to Jor-El's warnings.

That's what I thought after "Fallout." I think they're just leading us on...again. :rolleyes:

xrayvision
02-14-2008, 09:52 PM
That's what I thought after "Fallout." I think they're just leading us on...again. :rolleyes:

I think this time, they may finally push the story further along. I heard some theories about Hero (I don't want to know about spoilers) and it seems like Clark may start stepping up to the plate more often. I can only hope.

Odysseus
02-14-2008, 10:13 PM
I love the idea that Superman doesn't give up on people and looks for the best in everyone.

I also thought it was very Supermanly of Clark to go back for Alexander, even when he needed to get out through the red door. Loved that it showed that Superman doesn't want anyone to die and would give his life to save someone else, especially, a child.

I absolutely agree.

I LOVED this scene. I felt so sad when little Alexander was begging for help and Clark finally realized that the man who was his best friend is still somewhere inside Lex's scarred psyche. And when he said "I'll be watching out for you" it really made me think back to the good ol' days in the early seasons when Clark and Lex were still best friends.

Clark really did the heroic thing. I can honestly say I was really proud of him. :D

svtwamedfan05
02-14-2008, 10:39 PM
Finally something that Superman is all about. Awesome scene

BadToad
02-14-2008, 10:42 PM
That was my favorite scene too. Clark was very awesome in this episode.

I also think its important to remember that Clark said he would be looking out for Lex, and hope that the good will win against the bad. He didn't say he was going to be his best friend. He didn't say he wasn't going to oppose him when he does something evil. And he didn't say he's forgotten the evil things Lex has done. He's just saying that he still has hope for Lex, and always will. Thats very Superman-ly.

Palin Dromos
02-14-2008, 11:30 PM
I liked it too.

It dovetailed nicely with the scene last week in Siren where Lois pours her heart out about, she can't be with if she's always going to come second. Explains Superman's later constant attention to Lois later, just as this scene established why Clark keeps looking for the best in Lex.

It really feels like the writers are trying to finally establish clear emotional basis for Superman's later behavior, in relation to his most familiar supporting cast members.

ClareKent
02-14-2008, 11:33 PM
That was really heart touching, I almost cry when Alexander asked him to stay :( And now we know why Clark will always watch out for Lex even when he's such a badass.

svsabbiesv
02-15-2008, 01:04 AM
yea it makes more sense now to have shown that clark really knows there is truly a good side to lex and he will always be there to make lex choose the right way..but it sucks bc thats how its always been you kno. clark always question lex, but lex has gone to far now and clark isnt going to give up..and the end of clex tonight was nice..to say whats lost can always be found..i think with everything clark gave up on him but after tonight he knows that lex does things of how he was raised etc...

Krpyto
02-15-2008, 08:22 AM
I agree. I like this episode and I like how season 7 is unfolding so far.

LoveHurts38
02-15-2008, 08:25 AM
In that scene I heard in my head a Superman tune.

wildenchantress_kt
02-16-2008, 05:43 AM
People think that just because Clark's powers haven't really being developing this year that he is straying away from his destiny. He has most of his power's already (minus flight). This season is where he is experiencing events that will have a profound effect on his emotions.

The scene where Clark tells Alexander to keep fighting because he knows that he is still there makes Clark believe that there is still light at the end of the tunnel.

theWatcher
02-16-2008, 07:13 AM
I agree. It was a moment to show why Superman never just lets Lex die.

Let the kenundrum begin!

unfocused
02-16-2008, 01:42 PM
How is Clark parallel to Christ except when it comes to saving people...

He's not going to die for anyone's salvation now is he?

What? Clark hasn't risked his own life time after time to save people? He just risked his life to save Alexander.

Antithesis
02-19-2008, 01:07 AM
It definately was a great moment, but did anyone else expect it to go the exact opposite. Either he realizes he couldn't save Alexander and had to leave, or Lex would kill Alexander before Clark could save him. I did.

borednow
02-19-2008, 03:32 AM
I don't understand why Supes saves Lex...I mean Lex is comparable to the likes of Bin-Laden...would we give Bin Laden a chance to repent...I don't think so.

Superman is essentially a god amongst mortals. However he choses to help us instead of judge us. Superman could easily become the tyrannical dictator deciding who lives and who dies, he has the power to do so. However Superman recognizes that he is not infallible and thus cannot make those decisions for us. There are lots of stories where an Alt-Superman makes the decision you speak of, Superman: Doomsday, The Justice Lords, etc. and in all of those stories, guess what that Alt-Superman is the bad guy. Superman is a beacon of hope not judge jury and executioner.

cma_454
02-19-2008, 11:43 AM
Superman is essentially a god amongst mortals. However he choses to help us instead of judge us. Superman could easily become the tyrannical dictator deciding who lives and who dies, he has the power to do so. However Superman recognizes that he is not infallible and thus cannot make those decisions for us. ... Superman is a beacon of hope not judge jury and executioner.

+1

This is what make Superman so special. NOT his powers, but how he chooses to use them.

smallvillelogan
02-19-2008, 02:37 PM
+1

This is what make Superman so special. NOT his powers, but how he chooses to use them.

Amen brother!