All about Chlark in this episode

[chlarkfan333]

Based on spoilers, I am looking forward to seeing good Chlark interaction this episode. here's a thread to talk about what worked/didn't work and what you wish had been included/explained......you get the picture. :)

[AndiGirl]

There really werent a lot of Chlark scenes...but the last one was very sweet. She obviously means a lot to him. I love the way he folded his arms and said "so...does this mean you wont use your powers anymore?" Like he can actually force her not to? So protective.

[jimmyolsenblues]

clark did say , it goes beyond friendship.

[luvinChlark]

O, how I loved the chlark in this episode, it was so cute! It was obvious that Chloe only wanted to save Clark, but she had to save Lex to get to Clark. I was so happy they didn't have a clana scene in the end! Loved the chlark convo: Clark telling Chloe he was literally waiting for her to wake up, wondering what he would have to say at her funeral! Great! Great! Great! I wonder if they will have an episode where Chloe risks her life for Clark, thats what the convo sounded like in the end... Anyway loved the scene! :D:):D

[AndiGirl]

clark did say , it goes beyond friendship.

Yea...I'm still wondering what he meant by that.

[chlarkfan333]

Yea...I'm still wondering what he meant by that.

I've been mulling over that as well. I guess it could mean he realises she cares about him more than just as a friend, but given the way he said it, I didn't quite get that vibe.

[sabi908]

Yea...I'm still wondering what he meant by that.
nothing apparently.....

[you_smell_terrific]

When did he say that??

[chlarkfan333]

When did he say that??

During the Chlark scene in the end when he follows her into the adjoining room.

[AndiGirl]

He tells her how much he appreciates her doing that for him, it goes beyond friendship...but she shouldnt do it...or something along those lines. Is the scene posted anywhere yet?

[you_smell_terrific]

Oh I remember that. I just thought it meant that her willing to kill herself for him was like above and beyond what any friend could ever do for him. I didn't take it romantically

[minerva73]

That Chlark scene at the end was great. Now that I think about it, I guess that Clark staying so long to talk to Alexander was good after all. He showed the Superman-ish side of him and it gave he and Chloe the chance to bond at the end of the episode.

Is the scene posted anywhere yet?

I guess that someone will put it on YouTube and stuff in the morning. Or at midnight.

[thehenry89]

Oh I remember that. I just thought it meant that her willing to kill herself for him was like above and beyond what any friend could ever do for him. I didn't take it romantically


Me neither, I think what he meant is that what she did went above the call of duty.

[AndiGirl]

It was a friendly thing to say, but what is beyond friendship? I mean..the two cant get much closer...unless it was romantic. So maybe the fact that Chloe was willing to dabble in something so severe like death, is making Clark open his eyes. I cant say for sure...but I do recall he had a look on his face while he was saying it.

[jazel]

Oh I remember that. I just thought it meant that her willing to kill herself for him was like above and beyond what any friend could ever do for him. I didn't take it romantically

same here.
kind of ironic actually.....considering CK, and future Supes saves strangers, without even getting a thank you.but then again, "grim reaper" isn't his shadow.;)

[chlarkfan333]

Several important Labyrinth callbacks. From a Chlark POV - Chloe's death brings Clark back to reality.

Loved the way Chloe's healing lit everything withhin Lex's subconscious, including bathing Clark in a glow. That was visually very telling, I think. Just 2 weeks ago Clark told her how she saved him *again* and now, yet again. :)

[jazel]

too bad CK didn't realize Lex was on the verge of really dying.....that's what I got, when adult Lex was gonna kill kid Lex.
LOVED when CK woke-up, his FIRST thoughts were on Kara and Lois....forgot why he actually went in.:lol:;)

[superspider02]

Yea i have said this all the time clark and chloe have the best chemistry on the show and usually have the best scenes in episodes. Also yea i loved when chloe was healing lex and the glow of light in lex's mind as the above poster it was a great visual thing to do.

[AndiGirl]

Several important Labyrinth callbacks. From a Chlark POV - Chloe's death brings Clark back to reality.

Loved the way Chloe's healing lit everything withhin Lex's subconscious, including bathing Clark in a glow. That was visually very telling, I think. Just 2 weeks ago Clark told her how she saved him *again* and now, yet again. :)

I loved that too. It's just the total essence of Chloe...a bright white light bringing Clark back.:o

[WickedJenn]

Did you see the look on his face when he saw her on the ground?

[aqgalaxy]

It was obvious that Chloe only wanted to save Clark, but she had to save Lex to get to Clark.
In Wrath Chloe said there were two side of Isis. Lana displayed bringining the son god Ra to his knees in Persona by killing Bizarro. Isis is also said to travel the underworld to save the man she loves. Lex was that underworld, she did it to save Clark. Chloe fulfilled her side of Isis in the episode.

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Did you see the look on his face when he saw her on the ground?

Yeah, but he knew she'll be back, what would have been nice seeing him waiting for her to wake up. 18 hours is a long time...

[WickedJenn]

Yeah I wished they had shown us some of him waiting.

As a side note, Lana kind of disappeared after that scene earlier in the epi. I wonder why she didn't go into check with Chloe.

[theotherJane]

^

Honestly, they crammed way too much into this episode so it ended up being a little choppy. Lana wasn't needed at all. The first time I'm gonna say this, but I don't think Lois was needed either.

[aqgalaxy]

^

Honestly, they crammed way too much into this episode so it ended up being a little choppy. Lana wasn't needed at all. The first time I'm gonna say this, but I don't think Lois was needed either.

It was 2 episodes merged to 1 IMO

[lastwords]

I actually liked the Clark and Chloe stuff, i would love to see them get together.... :P
Lana did go away, but i wasnt all that sad about it, this new "impowered" lana bugs me.

[jazel]

but I don't think Lois was needed either.

agreed.....just wasted her talent, yet again.

[aqgalaxy]

agreed.....just wasted her talent, yet again.

Yeah, her army training was again bashed when she was knocked out.

[jazel]

Yeah, her army training was again bashed when she was knocked out.

can't help but love the cleverness, and orginiality, of those amazing writers.:lol:

[theotherJane]

Yeah, her army training was again bashed when she was knocked out.

Smartass! ;)

She means that she was underutilized and I agree.

[aqgalaxy]

Smartass! ;)

She means that she was underutilized and I agree.

Why yes I am a smartass :D And proud of it.

But yeah, I have to agree. Lois should have been used a bit better then that.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

Yeah, her army training was again bashed when she was knocked out.

Yeah, knocking yourself out with your meteor power is such a better way to go.

[AndiGirl]

She didnt knock herself out...she was dead. Big difference.

[SalvadorianGirl]

Just love how Clark straight out tells Chloe that she can't use her power again and than reluctantly agreeing it wasn't his choice to decided. He literally can't face his life without Chloe.

If anything having Chloe permanently died will destroy Clark instead of making him Superman like people say her death will do.

[aqgalaxy]

If anything having Chloe permanently died will destroy Clark instead of making him Superman like people say her death will do. Wouldn't Clark end up going crazy? "No Chloe's isn't dead, she can't be." and he cradles her body waiting for her to wake up...

[theotherJane]

If anything having Chloe permanently died will destroy Clark instead of making him Superman like people say her death will do.

I completely disagree. If Chloe dies, she would want him to do good in the world and become Superman and not sit around and mourn her death forever.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

I completely disagree. If Chloe dies, she would want him to do good in the world and become Superman and not sit around and mourn her death forever.

Didn't Lana's 'death' prompt Clark to want to start training?

[SalvadorianGirl]

I completely disagree. If Chloe dies, she would want him to do good in the world and become Superman and not sit around and mourn her death forever.

IMO, the show itself is showing us why that won't happen. It's showing us the opposite effect of what her death will bring to Clark. So I really don't think her death is going to work in bring Clark to his destiny.

[jazel]

Wouldn't Clark end up going crazy? "No Chloe's isn't dead, she can't be." and he cradles her body waiting for her to wake up...

His dad and Lana died, and he survived it. you guys are remembering Lab, and Bizarro, when imagining CK "dealing" w/ Chloe's death.....if it were to actually happen, who knows how the brains at SV would actually play it out.

[aqgalaxy]

His dad and Lana died, and he survived it. you guys are remembering Lab, and Bizarro, when imagining CK "dealing" w/ Chloe's death.....if it were to actually happen, who knows how the brains at SV would actually play it out.

But see Chloe could always wake up.. 18 hours now, could it be a month later? He may go crazy saying "She'll wake up!!!! She'll wake up!"

[jazel]

But see Chloe could always wake up.. 18 hours now, could it be a month later? He may go crazy saying "She'll wake up!!!! She'll wake up!"

but some sort of decay, would start up after 3 to 5 days, wouldn't it ?

[Khyla]

His dad and Lana died, and he survived it. you guys are remembering Lab, and Bizarro, when imagining CK "dealing" w/ Chloe's death.....if it were to actually happen, who knows how the brains at SV would actually play it out.
In both instance it DID actually happen as far as he knew... especially in BIZARRO, because he was completely aware and alert to his surroundings,and he didn't know anything about her powers. and it wasn't all taking place in some weird dreamscape. It was all too real to him, and he totally lost it. He became dizzy, he couldn't even breathe, until he heard her voice. I agree with SalvadorianGirl.

The Chlark in this episode was wonderful. the last three epi's were top 10's to me, maybe because i didn't read any spoilers so i wouldn't be disappointed or disheartened beforehand.

they were basically side by side throughout this epi, and I loved it! That he sat by her bedside for 18 hours, waiting for her to revive was so heartfelt and his saying what she did for him was "beyond friendship" also stood out to me, but I agree it did not come off as reflecting romance, but rather something deeper, like pure Love.

i think they've been setting Chloe up to be the perfect sidekick all along. - the perfect complement to Clark in every way, so that ultimately they will both continue to survive and do good in the world, while always having each other's back. they are proof of the deep commitment and bond that can develop between two "human" beings in the purest and most selfless way (strong contrast to the pettiness in the Clana relationship), ---it's almost like religion, --- we feel their struggle to keep it strictly friendship as if it's too sacred to be "debased" by physical attraction, and it drives some of us crazy! because we know, or at least we hope Clark is not an asexual being. I think it will all come down to a matter of maturity. When Clark finally "grows up" he will once again discover the true fulfilling happiness he has found with Chloe extending to fulfill him in every way possible. :)

[do3mire]

but some sort of decay, would start up after 3 to 5 days, wouldn't it ?

Ah! But, maybe he takes her to the FOS to keep her safe. There must be a fic in this somewhere. Maybe Aqgal can explain what the significance of keeping her dead body at the FOS means. Aqgal?

[jazel]

It was all too real to him, and he totally lost it. He became dizzy, he couldn't even breathe, until he heard her voice. I agree with SalvadorianGirl.

i think they've been setting Chloe up to be the perfect sidekick all along. - the perfect complement to Clark in every way, so that ultimately they will both continue to survive and do good in the world, while always having each other's back. they are proof of the deep commitment and bond that can develop between two "human" beings in the purest and most selfless way (strong contrast to the pettiness in the Clana relationship), ---it's almost like religion, --- we feel their struggle to keep it strictly friendship as if it's too sacred to be "debased" by physical attraction, and it drives some of us crazy! because we know, or at least we hope Clark is not an asexual being. I think it will all come down to a matter of maturity. When Clark finally "grows up" he will once again discover the true fulfilling happiness he has found with Chloe extending to fulfill him in every way possible. :)

I WISH he had that reaction for his father, when he died, that would have made more sense.

I agreed w/ almost everything you said, UNTIL you got to the "it's almost like religion" part.:( Chlark is now a religion ? Sometimes it sounds like a scary cult (no offense to any cults, out there).I don't see any struggle on either part, as far as physical attraction. What I love about the Chlark friendship, is that they got past the "crush" thing. At this point in the game, think it would be a major let down for Chloe, if CK woke-up one day, and said "hey I'm in love w/ Chloe now."
Fulfilling happiness with Chloe ? Chloe has been a great friend, but the key to CK's happiness doesn't really involve Chloe, or what their friendship has given him. It's about accepting himself.

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Ah! But, maybe he takes her to the FOS to keep her safe. There must be a fic in this somewhere. Maybe Aqgal can explain what the significance of keeping her dead body at the FOS means. Aqgal?

the FOS ? is that place, operational ? think Jor-el is tired of CK's lack of listening.:p
he may NOT want to help out, Kal-el this time.

[heavens_cry]

I cant wait to see this ep. sounds great. Khyla great post.

[Khyla]

....I don't see any struggle on either part, as far as physical attraction. What I love about the Chlark friendship, is that they got past the "crush" thing. At this point in the game, think it would be a major let down for Chloe, if CK woke-up one day, and said "hey I'm in love w/ Chloe now."
Fulfilling happiness with Chloe ? Chloe has been a great friend, but the key to CK's happiness doesn't really involve Chloe, or what their friendship has given him. It's about accepting himself.


Clark accepting himself, moving forward in his development, goes hand in hand with the realization that Chloe is the one who has helped him become who he is destined to be, and that realization should also make him see how much he needs her in his life, how good she is for him. which he's already acknowledged in Laby: "I don't know what I'd do without you, Chloe. Seriously, you mean a lot more to me than you know",
and he has also pledged his commitment to her: "consider me your own personal bomb squad", and we've been told from the beginning he "will never outgrow her".

Clark moving on to Chloe is a mature Clark accepting and embracing his destiny. They go hand in hand :)Clark's connection to Chloe, is Clark's connection to Superman.

We've also been shown Chlark have mutual feelings of possessiveness and jealousy, countered by deep feelings of care for each others' well-being and happiness ....
.... we have CHloe and Clark both insist in WORD they are just best friends, yet they are shown with hurt and jealousy on their faces when another lover is mentioned or displays affection. And they are shown to us consistently displaying yet denying their true affection for each other.

a Clark who has become mature enough to accept and act on his love for Chloe, will be mature enough to take on the world as 'Superman'.
:)

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I cant wait to see this ep. sounds great. Khyla great post.
thanks! :D

[lillie_poo_pod]

The Chlark in this episode was great. The pacing felt off a bit but other than that I have no complaints. I loved the fact that they finally talked about Chloe's power and not just sweep this incident under the rug. It was nice.

[jazel]

Clark accepting himself, moving forward in his development, goes hand in hand with the realization that Chloe is the one who has helped him become who he is destined to be, and that realization should also make him see how much he needs her in his life, how good she is for him. which he's already acknowledged in Laby: "I don't know what I'd do without you, Chloe. Seriously, you mean a lot more to me than you know",
and he has also pledged his commitment to her: "consider me your own personal bomb squad", and we've been told from the beginning he "will never outgrow her".

Clark moving on to Chloe is a mature Clark accepting and embracing his destiny. They go hand in hand :)Clark's connection to Chloe, is Clark's connection to Superman.

We've also been shown Chlark have mutual feelings of possessiveness and jealousy, countered by deep feelings of care for each others' well-being and happiness ....
.... we have CHloe and Clark both insist in WORD they are just best friends, yet they are shown with hurt and jealousy on their faces when another lover is mentioned or displays affection. And they are shown to us consistently displaying yet denying their true affection for each other.

a Clark who has become mature enough to accept and act on his love for Chloe, will be mature enough to take on the world as 'Superman'.
:)



No hun, you've got it wrong. Chloe, doesn't define who, or what Superman is. He has ALWAYS been, CK just needs to embrace that, on his OWN terms. Chloe, has/had nothing to do with that. Chloe has NO place in Superman's universe, you do understand this, don't you ?:\

[Dannyblue1]

No hun, you've got it wrong. Chloe, doesn't define who, or what Superman is. He has ALWAYS been, CK just needs to embrace that, on his OWN terms. Chloe, has/had nothing to do with that. Chloe has NO place in Superman's universe, you do understand this, don't you ?:\

On this show, in this universe, in the canon of SV, Chloe has had a major influence on Clark, just like the other characters. (His parents, Lex, the not-so-nice Kryptonians he's met, Oliver, etc.) It just so happens that, in the world of SV, Clark seems very reluctant to become the hero he know he will be, and Chloe is one of the people encouraging him in that direction.

[lillie_poo_pod]

On this show, in this universe, in the canon of SV, Chloe has had a major influence on Clark, just like the other characters. (His parents, Lex, the not-so-nice Kryptonians he's met, Oliver, etc.) It just so happens that, in the world of SV, Clark seems very reluctant to become the hero he know he will be, and Chloe is one of the people encouraging him in that direction.
So much word.

You can deny it all you want, but in Smallville, on this show, Chloe plays a major part in Clark's life. Hate it or love it.

[jazel]

On this show, in this universe, in the canon of SV, Chloe has had a major influence on Clark, just like the other characters. (His parents, Lex, the not-so-nice Kryptonians he's met, Oliver, etc.) It just so happens that, in the world of SV, Clark seems very reluctant to become the hero he know he will be, and Chloe is one of the people encouraging him in that direction.

I know Chloe "tries". BUT ultimately it's his decision, of when, where, and how he accepts it. Clark just needs to accept he is NOT of Earth's origin.....WHEN he does that, he will be Superman. Sorry, but I honestly do NOT see Chloe, "needing" to spell it out for him.

[Dannyblue1]

I know Chloe "tries". BUT ultimately it's his decision, of when, where, and how he accepts it. Clark just needs to accept he is NOT of Earth's origin.....WHEN he does that, he will be Superman. Sorry, but I honestly do NOT see Chloe, "needing" to spell it out for him.

Yes, it is his decision. But we are all influenced by the people in our lives. That's just kinda the way it works.

[Bigx07]

It was great to see another awesome Chlark scene and as usual it was great. That also shows that Clark really cares her and he knows how much of an impact she has had in his life. Without Chloe, he wouldn't have grown into the man that he is today.

[Dustmite]

Chloe has NO place in Superman's universe, you do understand this, don't you ?:\

No I don't really :\ Chloe has a place in the Smallville universe. A big place. I think Clark would agree. I assume we're talking about Smallville here and not other media (comics, movies). Because on Smallville, she's his best friend and confidant, one of his secret-keepers, someone who knows that he's destined for great things, something she even knew before she found out about his powers.

Anyway, the Chlark in this episode was lovely. I've been waiting for that conversation since we found out about Chloe's power. I love how protective he is of her and that he waited by her bedside for her to wake up.

[chlarkfan333]

If you look at Chloe's role in Clark's journey towards his destiny from the beginning of the series, I think it's pretty clear she has had a major influence on it and continues to do so. The final Chlark scene further solidifies this by drawing parallels between them and what they have to offer to each other and the world. I imagine it irks Cloisers, since traditionally Lois is Clark's confidante, but the fact of the matter is, in Smallville that's not the case, at least not yet. I don't see the need to insist that Chloe has no place in the Superman universe, since 7 years of Chloe and Chlark partnership is incontrovertible proof that she does - in the SVverse. I don't read the comics or care about other media, so they have no bearing or influence of what I want from this show for Clark, Chloe, and Chlark.

[AChloeChick]

The Chlark in the last three episodes has been very refreshing (the best in a while).

However, I do not like how he and Chloe act like Lana has done absolutely nothing wrong and they're all buddy-buddy now. Yet again, everything she's done has been swept under the rug.

One of Clark's biggest DUH moments concerning Chloe -- what you did for me went way beyond friendship. Well, DUH! How come you haven't figured that out before now? Why do you continue to be SO oblivious to what's right in front of you?

It just makes me go back to SDK's comments on Splinter about Chlark: It makes you wonder why? Why aren't those two together? Why can't Clark see what we all can see (even though all of us can't see it)?

After seven years I am STILL wondering why.

[Atomic girl]

If Chloe were to die because of her knowledge of Clark's secret, I think what we would see is:

1) Clark makes up his mind that he can't be with anyone, it's too dangerous. (If Chloe can't handle it, who could?)
2) Clark will break up with Lana, for her good....
3) Clark will brood forever.....
4) While brooding, he will go to Fortress to "complain" to daddy Jor-El, and will be captured for training...(OK I'm only hoping he will start training, but what are the odds, really?)

Back on topic, the Chlark was great. Clark's continued concern for Chloe after last week was just great. As close as we're ever going to get for continuity for their relationship... I love how Clark will say something to Chloe and she'll turn right around and correct him, and he'll immediately back down. Chloe did the same thing to Clark in Hydro about keeping Lana's secret. Their relationship is so good to watch, even when it's not romantic.....I don't know what I'll do next year if we lose Chloe

[JorEl23]

It is nice to see CK appreciating Chloe for the great FRIEND she has evolved into but my greatest fear about how this episode was handled is that the Chloe worshipping crowd will read too much into it. Being more of a purist, one that was a huge proponent of Clana and now after enduring the contrived Lexana arc, then redemption and a closure of sorts with Clark forthcoming am looking forward to Clois to start to take shape. Of course, this view has gotten me burned in effegy by the massive segment of folks that only enjoy Smallville because of Allison Mack and her character. In fact, despite my opposition to that opinion, I have stated and stand by the fact that I truly love the woman/friend she has become when although I felt her to be one of the better ACTORS in the beginning and that shined thru, I essentially disliked the whiny piner Chloe of Seasons 1 and 2. That all said, I think the best thing that could happen for the sake of the story, and CK's further maturation is to have this episode be a foreshadowing of Chloe's death sometime between now and the end. I'm sure it won't be enough but in a way Chlarkers can be happy in the fact that his future love with Lois can be enabled by his love for Chloe. Meaning: Lana has turned out to be more of a love of attraction, and an image of someone that may not be who you thought they were coupled with the fact that Lana is in constant need of support and protection and we all know that when Clark takes on the cape, he can't be focused only on one person 24/7. Chloe on the other hand, is not looked at romantically by Clark but represents loyalty, and when she is gone perhaps Clark will realize the value of being friends is the best element in a successful relationship. Enter Lois, who is the anti Lana in that she isn't needy, and primarily takes care of herself and as first a friend regardless of the attraction element makes for the perfect soulmate for the future Superman.

[Clarkgirl8]

It just makes me go back to SDK's comments on Splinter about Chlark: It makes you wonder why? Why aren't those two together? Why can't Clark see what we all can see (even though all of us can't see it)?

After seven years I am STILL wondering why.
Exactly... im soo confused with these episodes... they show Chloe as the best woman, the best friend, the best everything... she actually risk her own life and again we dont have Chlark... that line "it goes beyond friendship"... *sigh*

IMO Chlark is the only healthy and nice relationship on the show...

[BkWurm1]

Oh I remember that. I just thought it meant that her willing to kill herself for him was like above and beyond what any friend could ever do for him. I didn't take it romantically

The beyond friendship line was kind of slipped into the conversation. The phrase has a lot of impact to it, a lot of power, but it was used almost casually so what I think it was meant to be was a foreshadow of the future. Just a quick reminder to the viewer that Chlark goes beyond friendship.


Posted by Jorel23
Being more of a purist, one that was a huge proponent of Clana and now after enduring the contrived Lexana arc, then redemption and a closure of sorts with Clark forthcoming am looking forward to Clois to start to take shape.

Posted by Jorel23
Chloe on the other hand, is not looked at romantically by Clark but represents loyalty, and when she is gone perhaps Clark will realize the value of being friends is the best element in a successful relationship. Enter Lois, who is the anti Lana in that she isn't needy, and primarily takes care of herself and as first a friend regardless of the attraction element makes for the perfect soulmate for the future Superman.

I am a big fan of the Lois and Clark relationship in the Superman mythos and honestly, I'm too much of a purist to accept that EDLois could possible be the Iconic Lois Lane of Superman lore. I Chlois because I want the epic Lois and Clark relationship and the closest Smallville comes to it IMO is Chlark.

Chloe is also the anti-Lana, has already earned his loyalty, has been looked at in a romantic light, and in this episode we have Clark realizing her actions went beyond friendship which makes me think he can once again look at her in a romantic light. In essance, I think that Chloe is the perfect soulmate for the future Superman.

[Khyla]

...I am a big fan of the Lois and Clark relationship in the Superman mythos and honestly, I'm too much of a purist to accept that EDLois could possible be the Iconic Lois Lane of Superman lore. I Chlois because I want the epic Lois and Clark relationship and the closest Smallville comes to it IMO is Chlark.

Chloe is also the anti-Lana, has already earned his loyalty, has been looked at in a romantic light, and in this episode we have Clark realizing her actions went beyond friendship which makes me think he can once again look at her in a romantic light. In essance, I think that Chloe is the perfect soulmate for the future Superman.

excellent post! I couldn't agree more! :)

[kasealaine]

I'm just glad that now that they can have a recurring death with Chloe maybe they won't feel the need to kill off every single other character and then bring them back. They can just do it to Chloe over and over and never have to find a new reason that she comes back to life.

It was... cute? that Clark was protective... and yet I found myself wishing that he would butt out a little bit. I mean, first of all, they BOTH go to Lana to find out about LuthorCorp technology- which is usually when they go to Chloe- then Clark doesn't want her to use her abilities. So, basically, they keep trying to make her nearly useless. Except, of course, that I love to watch her act. :)
Why did they have to stick her with such a crappy power anyway? I mean, it's not the tear of suck anymore, but instead of getting better at it she's getting worse? WTF?

[ChlarkisLove21]

The beyond friendship line was kind of slipped into the conversation. The phrase has a lot of impact to it, a lot of power, but it was used almost casually so what I think it was meant to be was a foreshadow of the future. Just a quick reminder to the viewer that Chlark goes beyond friendship.






I am a big fan of the Lois and Clark relationship in the Superman mythos and honestly, I'm too much of a purist to accept that EDLois could possible be the Iconic Lois Lane of Superman lore. I Chlois because I want the epic Lois and Clark relationship and the closest Smallville comes to it IMO is Chlark.

Chloe is also the anti-Lana, has already earned his loyalty, has been looked at in a romantic light, and in this episode we have Clark realizing her actions went beyond friendship which makes me think he can once again look at her in a romantic light. In essance, I think that Chloe is the perfect soulmate for the future Superman.

couldnt agree more! took the words out of my mouth! ;)

[aqgalaxy]

Ah! But, maybe he takes her to the FOS to keep her safe. There must be a fic in this somewhere. Maybe Aqgal can explain what the significance of keeping her dead body at the FOS means. Aqgal?

Screw the FoS. Chloe displayed her power in front of Lionel Luthor, the vessel of Jor-El. Meaning Jor-El witnessed Chloe in a sense risk her life to save his son, that's something now isn't it?

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It just makes me go back to SDK's comments on Splinter about Chlark: It makes you wonder why? Why aren't those two together? Why can't Clark see what we all can see (even though all of us can't see it)?

After seven years I am STILL wondering why.

Because, it's the endpoint. I mean left and right this season they are planting anvils on EDLois's death, this season basically made me believe Chlois is true and will happen. They made Chloe the ultimate person who Clark should be with. They are pushing it to the end. That's why. If you put the "delayed" thinking cap on, SDK's comment rings true. They can see it, they know it, they are just delaying the inevitable.

[Khyla]

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Because, it's the endpoint. I mean left and right this season they are planting anvils on EDLois's death, this season basically made me believe Chlois is true and will happen. They made Chloe the ultimate person who Clark should be with. They are pushing it to the end. That's why. If you put the "delayed" thinking cap on, SDK's comment rings true. They can see it, they know it, they are just delaying the inevitable.

And God, I hope they see it thru to fruition and don't succumb to some outside influence/pressure/castration, etc. :)

[JorEl23]

I am a big fan of the Lois and Clark relationship in the Superman mythos and honestly, I'm too much of a purist to accept that EDLois could possible be the Iconic Lois Lane of Superman lore. I Chlois because I want the epic Lois and Clark relationship and the closest Smallville comes to it IMO is Chlark.

Chloe is also the anti-Lana, has already earned his loyalty, has been looked at in a romantic light, and in this episode we have Clark realizing her actions went beyond friendship which makes me think he can once again look at her in a romantic light. In essance, I think that Chloe is the perfect soulmate for the future Superman.

I can't for the life of me understand why you have a problem with EDLois. She's relentless, obnoxious, and energetic just like ANY classic Lois of the past. As for Chloe, if there wasn't already a Lois on the show who happens to be her cousin maybe I could at least acknowledge this whole bizzare Chlois theory. But circumstances being what they are, it's just not a possibilty in my mind. Additionally, other than being more experienced in reporting and better tech skills what makes Chloe more like an epic Lois than Lois???

[InLove_with_Chloe]

As for Chloe, if there wasn't already a Lois on the show......

Technically, Chloe was on the show first.....
:lol:

[Dor el]

Anyway, the Chlark in this episode was lovely. I've been waiting for that conversation since we found out about Chloe's power. I love how protective he is of her and that he waited by her bedside for her to wake up.

Maybe he just really didn't want to go home to Lana after what he had just witnessed in Lex's mind.:lol::lol:

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As for Chloe, if there wasn't already a Lois on the show who happens to be her cousin maybe I could at least acknowledge this whole bizzare Chlois theory.

Chloe does have strong feelings for Clark. Clark does has strong feelings for Chloe. How is Clark gonna get it on with Lois unless Chloe is out of the picture? Surely, Lois remembers the hurt she saw in Chloe's eyes at THE prom. You know, the one where Clark and Lana broke Jason's heart as well? Lois loves her cousin and I really can't see Lois doing anything to hurt Chloe. Clearly, Clark and Chloe have the deepest relationship of any on the show. At least right now.

Lana's relationship with Clark seems almost a burden to Clark. (It certainly burdens me.) But you know... he started a thing with Lana, and you know... he's gotta see it thorough. Cause, you know... he hurt her once and just look at the mess that ensued when Clark broke up with Lana. Lana is a loose canon and you know... Clark has gotta take care of her...Paleeze help me I think I'm gonna be sick.

Chloe loves Clark but she doesn't need him to be complete. She is strong...just like the future Superman. I like their relationship of strength. He is physically stronger, but I think she is on equal footing with him from an intestinal fortitude thing. Right now, she seems stronger emotionally. He needs her. He only wants Lana. Maybe not so much now.

[luvinChlark]

Maybe he just really didn't want to go home to Lana after what he had just witnessed in Lex's mind.:lol::lol:

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Chloe does have strong feelings for Clark. Clark does has strong feelings for Chloe. How is Clark gonna get it on with Lois unless Chloe is out of the picture? Surely, Lois remembers the hurt she saw in Chloe's eyes at THE prom. You know, the one where Clark and Lana broke Jason's heart as well? Lois loves her cousin and I really can't see Lois doing anything to hurt Chloe. Clearly, Clark and Chloe have the deepest relationship of any on the show. At least right now.

Lana's relationship with Clark seems almost a burden to Clark. (It certainly burdens me.) But you know... he started a thing with Lana, and you know... he's gotta see it thorough. Cause, you know... he hurt her once and just look at the mess that ensued when Clark broke up with Lana. Lana is a loose canon and you know... Clark has gotta take care of her...Paleeze help me I think I'm gonna be sick.

Chloe loves Clark but she doesn't need him to be complete. She is strong...just like the future Superman. I like their relationship of strength. He is physically stronger, but I think she is on equal footing with him from an intestinal fortitude thing. Right now, she seems stronger emotionally. He needs her. He only wants Lana. Maybe not so much now.

Omg! Well said, I agree 100%! I always think the same thing when it comes to Clois/Chlark. I'm like how could Lois move onto Clark, when she knows that Chloe has/had a thing for him! I really could not believe that Lois would ever do that to Chloe! Seriously, how could she? Maybe if Lois and Chloe weren't related it would defiantly not matter, but they are. And I would never go after a guy my sister liked! ;):p

[umm]

Yea...I'm still wondering what he meant by that.


He meant that her actions (her risking her own life by saving Lex in order to save Clark) go beyond friendship! Something one can't put a price on!

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Maybe he just really didn't want to go home to Lana after what he had just witnessed in Lex's mind.:lol::lol:

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Chloe does have strong feelings for Clark. Clark does has strong feelings for Chloe. How is Clark gonna get it on with Lois unless Chloe is out of the picture? Surely, Lois remembers the hurt she saw in Chloe's eyes at THE prom. You know, the one where Clark and Lana broke Jason's heart as well? Lois loves her cousin and I really can't see Lois doing anything to hurt Chloe. Clearly, Clark and Chloe have the deepest relationship of any on the show. At least right now.

Lana's relationship with Clark seems almost a burden to Clark. (It certainly burdens me.) But you know... he started a thing with Lana, and you know... he's gotta see it thorough. Cause, you know... he hurt her once and just look at the mess that ensued when Clark broke up with Lana. Lana is a loose canon and you know... Clark has gotta take care of her...Paleeze help me I think I'm gonna be sick.

Chloe loves Clark but she doesn't need him to be complete. She is strong...just like the future Superman. I like their relationship of strength. He is physically stronger, but I think she is on equal footing with him from an intestinal fortitude thing. Right now, she seems stronger emotionally. He needs her. He only wants Lana. Maybe not so much now.


Couldn't have said better my self! You have got a complete understanding of what Clark/Chloe relationship is truly about. :)

[aqgalaxy]

Chloe does have strong feelings for Clark. Clark does has strong feelings for Chloe. How is Clark gonna get it on with Lois unless Chloe is out of the picture? Surely, Lois remembers the hurt she saw in Chloe's eyes at THE prom. You know, the one where Clark and Lana broke Jason's heart as well? Lois loves her cousin and I really can't see Lois doing anything to hurt Chloe.


I agree, I too made the same arguments.

The shoot it down with:

"Oh Clois isn't supposed to happen for another 12 years so Chloe will be so over him by then"

[Lazy Boy]

"Chloe loves Clark but she doesn't need him to be complete. She is strong...just like the future Superman. I like their relationship of strength. He is physically stronger, but I think she is on equal footing with him from an intestinal fortitude thing. Right now, she seems stronger emotionally. He needs her. He only wants Lana. Maybe not so much now.[/quote]"

This quote remind me of a song called "Tougher than the rest" by Bruce Springteen.
Gotta be honest though as much I tried to enjoy the programme without getting suck into the whole "shipper" thing, I was taken by the last scene between Clark and Chloe. I do get the impression that both characters seems quite keen on each other but either seems a little to afraid to make the first move which is why Chloe crack the jokes and Clark keeps the distance. It's either that or it's bad directing attempt to convey something else.
It was good acting by Allison and Tom in an otherwise fairly standard storyline.

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PS sorry about not crediting you with your quote Dor el, I'm still getting to grips with the whole posting thing.