Clark lets Lex get stabbed.

[Ardiem3]

I thought it was funny, and also a great use of special effects, when the dagger of the Black Cannary was flying towards Lex and Clark, seeing it, just lets it continue to stab Lex. Clark is done saving Lex, if he can help it, and i just think that there is almost no shred of friendship left between the both of them.

[lois_lane-kent]

And that is where my "Clark is a petty jerk" statement comes from.

[krpto]

See the look on clarks face to me looked like he was thinking that knife will only hit lex in the sholder so he won't have any serious injury besides he deserves a little pain for going after my friends. So clark wasn't gonna let lex be killed but He will alow him to be injured after him sent a assasin that injured chloe.

[lois_lane-kent]

BC wasn't an assassin though...

[krpto]

Okay assasin is the wrong word but you know what I ment. Clark will safe lex from bullets when possible and keep other from killing but he will alow Lex to feel the pain he has caused.

[wolverine316]

Pain that Lex deserves.

[WickedJenn]

I thought it was funny, and also a great use of special effects, when the dagger of the Black Cannary was flying towards Lex and Clark, seeing it, just lets it continue to stab Lex. Clark is done saving Lex, if he can help it, and i just think that there is almost no shred of friendship left between the both of them.

I agree, Clark seems to be done with helping Lex. He could tell Lex wouldn't die, but he wasn't going to stop that knife either.

You are right, I think it's safe to say they are definitely finished now.

[BadToad]

My impression remains that they were showing that Clark had to make a choice. That he wasn't just callously allowing Lex to be hurt. After all, if thats how he felt, why would he stop GA's arrow? But he did.

And the bottom line is still that Lex, GA and BC are all alive, and I don't believe that would've been the case if Clark hadn't intervened.

[Dor el]

^^Agreed. Clark can't just standby and do nothing when someone's, anyone's life is in jeopardy. That is not Clark's nature. though try as he might, he has been and will always be unable to get away from who he is. He had taken care of the real life threatening thing for Lex, and then chose to move on rather than stay and risk being outed or letting BC get hurt further.

[SuperShazam!!]

I thought one of lexs bullets was heading towards BC so thats why he saved her and not lex..

[curiosity]

And that is where my "Clark is a petty jerk" statement comes from.

Umm.....Clark noticed the dagger going towards Lex and a bullet going towards the Black Canary at the same time, and chose to help HER. Even if he chose to SAVE one over the other, a knife is less harm, and it was headed towards Lex's hand. The bullet was headed for HER chest.

At least that's how I saw it in high definition, HD TV. I have it recorded though, and can go back and double check, but I'm pretty sure that's the way it happened.

[j-kent]

My impression remains that they were showing that Clark had to make a choice. That he wasn't just callously allowing Lex to be hurt. After all, if thats how he felt, why would he stop GA's arrow? But he did.

And the bottom line is still that Lex, GA and BC are all alive, and I don't believe that would've been the case if Clark hadn't intervened.

Exactly my logic...Clark noticed Canary and the dagger a bit too late..he had to make a choice...a rather quick choice even for someone with superspeed... he isn't the flash and everywhere at once...

[Lis]

Umm.....Clark noticed the dagger going towards Lex and a bullet going towards the Black Canary at the same time, and chose to help HER. Even if he chose to SAVE one over the other, a knife is less harm, and it was headed towards Lex's hand. The bullet was headed for HER chest.

At least that's how I saw it in high definition, HD TV. I have it recorded though, and can go back and double check, but I'm pretty sure that's the way it happened. I agree with that. I think the bullet could kill BC. It faced the her heart. (That's how I saw it).

[kal-el_Girl]

See the look on clarks face to me looked like he was thinking that knife will only hit lex in the sholder so he won't have any serious injury besides he deserves a little pain for going after my friends. So clark wasn't gonna let lex be killed but He will alow him to be injured after him sent a assasin that injured chloe.

I agree I think that clark immediately saw that lex wasn't in great danger therefore saved black canary and green arrow, hey I think bullets are more dangerous than arrows but that's me.:lol:

[WickedJenn]

My impression remains that they were showing that Clark had to make a choice. That he wasn't just callously allowing Lex to be hurt. After all, if thats how he felt, why would he stop GA's arrow? But he did.

And the bottom line is still that Lex, GA and BC are all alive, and I don't believe that would've been the case if Clark hadn't intervened.

Yes, that is a good point, it wasn't callous, but to me it seemed he definitely was thinking more of Ollie and BC.

[SparkleforSmallville]

A very Heroic Clark{I've missed him} had to make a quick decision. He surveyed the situation and was able to save everyone's life. There was a bullet headed for BC, dead on and a knife headed for Lex's shoulder. Even though the knife could have hit Lex's heart, Clark had to make a decision. It's not easy being a Superhero!

[lois_lane-kent]

But Clark have stopped BOTH the bullet and the knife. As I mentioned in another thread, "Jinx" proved that.

[SVfan4ever]

That bullet was headed straight for BC's chest. Knife in shoulder vs. bullet in chest. Clark made a decision and it was the correct one.

[Ardiem3]

I thought one of lexs bullets was heading towards BC so thats why he saved her and not lex..

With Clarks speed, Clark could have made sure that both were unharmed but let Lex have a little pain for all the pain that he has inflicted upon others and will continue to do. Clark wouldnt of Lex die, he saw that the dagger wouldnt of hit his heart or anywhere else, and after seeing that, preceded to let Lex have some pain.

[jimmyolsenblues]

clark hesitated thought about it and chose to let the knife go.
I am happy he let lex get stabbed.
But it makes me think.
Clark can think at superspeed, he can react at superspeed, even hesitate and still be fast enough to save a bullet.
So if he can think so fast , how can he be such a BDA?

[ClarksGal]

clark hesitated thought about it and chose to let the knife go.
I am happy he let lex get stabbed.
But it makes me think.
Clark can think at superspeed, he can react at superspeed, even hesitate and still be fast enough to save a bullet.
So if he can think so fast , how can he be such a BDA?


:) I have totally wondered that myself. It's not possible. :)

[Dannyblue1]

Here's what happened.

An arrow was headed for Lex's chest. Clark swatted it away.

A bullet was headed for GA's chest (or there abouts), and Clark swatted that away.

A split second later, he realized a knife was headed for Lex's shoulder. At the exact same time, he realized a bullet was headed for BC's chest.

Clark is fast but, in this situation, they wanted to give the definite impression that even Clark couldn't stop both in time. So he had to make a choice. Stop the knife headed for Lex's shoulder (which would only wound him) or stop the bullet headed for BC's heart, (which would probably kill her).

He went with the solution that would leave everyone alive.

I actually think this is one of those very rare, but lovely, occasions when they showed Clark looking at the situation logically and making a well-thought out (in a split second) decision. Very heroic, in my opinion.

[cardsharp]

n00b question.
wtf is bda?

[BadToad]

Thank you Dannyblue1

I can understand if people question if the scene was effective because Clark should be fast enough. But I do believe it was absolutely crystal clear that the scene was attempting to show, and it wasn't Clark not caring that Lex got hurt. If thats what they wanted to show, I believe it would've been obvious.

[litew8]

cardsharp: BDA = Big Dumb Alien.

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Thank you Dannyblue1

I can understand if people question if the scene was effective because Clark should be fast enough. But I do believe it was absolutely crystal clear that the scene was attempting to show, and it wasn't Clark not caring that Lex got hurt. If thats what they wanted to show, I believe it would've been obvious.

Not so much a matter of time, but rather abilities. Clark could have shot a little burst of heat vision or burst of super-breath towards the knife and deflected it. Instead of attempting either of those, I think Clark willingly spent the time to consider whether or not he should. He could have. But decided not to act.

[Maddie Van Horn]

muahahaha! lex got stabbed! the friendship bond has been severed!

[Dannyblue1]

Big Dumb Alien.

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No so much a matter of speed, but abilities. Clark could have shot a little burst of heat vision or burst of super-breath towards the knife and deflected it.

Has Clark used heat vision to deflect stuff? I think all that really would've done is make the knife hot. (Although I could have missed something.)

Anyway, I think they wanted to show Clark having to make a very dramatic decision. One of the problems with Superman's powers has always been they are too much, really. So people writing stories for the character often have to "power him down" a little in order to put him into any kind of dramatic situation. That leads to inconsistencies. Sometimes, he can do something like run around the world in seconds. Other times, he can't catch a super fast jet (or something), even though he really should be able to, because having him catch it would kill the story.

On shows like this, where you have people running around with special powers, you learn to accept a little inconsistency. On another show, fans complain all of the time how the characters seem to "forget" to use some of their powers in situations where those powers would resolve the story too quickly.

In this episode, they wanted Clark to have to make a very dramatic decision, so they gave the impression that he had time to either stop the knife or the bullet, not both.

[Maddie Van Horn]

Has Clark used heat vision to deflect stuff? I think all that really would've done is make the knife hot. (Although I could have missed something
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yes, look at the episode fragile, when martha is being held in the barn by maddies dad, clark uses heat vision to knock the shard of glass out of the way

[Dannyblue1]

Has Clark used heat vision to deflect stuff? I think all that really would've done is make the knife hot. (Although I could have missed something
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yes, look at the episode fragile, when martha is being held in the barn by maddies dad, clark uses heat vision to knock the shard of glass out of the way

Thanks.

And I won't say it. I won't say it. I won't...

Aw, I can't resist.

You actually expect them to remember a relatively small detail like that? The people who forgot that Bo had been shot? The people who forgot Lana had been to Paris several times? The people who forgot Lionel had another son, and Lex wasn't an only child? The people who forgot Lana and Clark had broken up in season 6?

[Maddie Van Horn]

no problem, and i know it is a super small detail, but ya know im way obsessive over that

[RJLCyberPunk]

clark hesitated thought about it and chose to let the knife go.
I am happy he let lex get stabbed.
But it makes me think.
Clark can think at superspeed, he can react at superspeed, even hesitate and still be fast enough to save a bullet.
So if he can think so fast , how can he be such a BDA?

BDA?:confused:

[maryjanewatson]

BDA?:confused:
Big Dumb Alien. ;)

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Has Clark used heat vision to deflect stuff? I think all that really would've done is make the knife hot. (Although I could have missed something.)


Ya, remember in "spell"? the girls start magically throwing farm equipment at clark and he just stands there and deflects them with his heat vision. he always reminds me of Cyclops from x-men in that scene.

[Dannyblue1]

Also, I don't understand why people think Clark letting Lex hit with the knife purely as some petty show of his anger would be a good thing.

I can understand people who, like me, think Clark really didn't have time to stop both the bullet and the knife.

I can understand people who think Clark did have time, but didn't because he's a jerk and wanted Lex to feel pain.

I don't understand people who think, "Clark let Lex get stabbed on purpose. Yipeeee!"

For one, I wouldn't want to think of Clark (or Superman, for that matter) doing something like that. "Superman" and "petty" shouldn't be used in the same sentence. (Unless it's someone else doing something petty too Superman.)

And, two, we don't need Clark pulling petty crap like this to know the friendship between him and Lex is history. We know that already. We don't need Clark acting like a petty jackass to show it more.

[litew8]

Thanks.

And I won't say it. I won't say it. I won't...

Aw, I can't resist.

You actually expect them to remember a relatively small detail like that? The people who forgot that Bo had been shot? The people who forgot Lana had been to Paris several times? The people who forgot Lionel had another son, and Lex wasn't an only child? The people who forgot Lana and Clark had broken up in season 6?

Seriously, how could it possibly NOT be consider that his heat vision beam (or burst;blast) incapable of deflecting an object. The names burst or blast are consistant with force, and all are in motion - thereby making them - Beam, burst or blast of forceful heat, in motion. A pushing force, very capable of deflecting a flying object (knife) - even if slightly - off course.


Consider this - If Superman uses his heat vision to cut through metal, like a cutting torch - it is only because there is pressure being applied - in which allows his heat vision to actually burn through the metal.

[Dannyblue1]

Seriously, how could it possibly NOT be consider that his heat vision beam (or burst;blast) incapable of deflecting an object. The names burst or blast are consistant with force, afterall.

Because writers do stuff like this all of the time for dramatic purposes. It's not uncommon for a character on these types of shows to "forget" one of their powers if not using that particular power will make a situation more dramatic.

[litew8]

Because writers do stuff like this all of the time for dramatic purposes. It's not uncommon for a character on these types of shows to "forget" one of their powers if not using that particular power will make a situation more dramatic.

Well, I'm not trying to suggest that the writers did or did not do something for whatever reason. I'm just saying that it was more than accurate to have had Clark stop the knife with one of his other abilities. That, and it is NOT some small detail that can be forgotten, as you implied up-thread.

[Dannyblue1]

Well, I'm not trying to suggest that the writers did or did not do something for whatever reason. I'm just saying that it was more than accurate to have had Clark stop the knife with one of his other abilities. That, and it is NOT some small detail that can be forgotten, as you implied up-thread.

If they can forget, an episode later, that Clark and Lana had broken up, they can forget that, in seasons past, Clark used his heat vision to deflect stuff once or twice.

[MRluvr]

Umm.....Clark noticed the dagger going towards Lex and a bullet going towards the Black Canary at the same time, and chose to help HER. Even if he chose to SAVE one over the other, a knife is less harm, and it was headed towards Lex's hand. The bullet was headed for HER chest.



EXACTLY

[PepsiMax]

I thought it was awesome! Want more Lex/Clark interaction.

[Krypton935]

I thought that was awesome! Lex definitly deserves that pain. I was disapointed that he stopped the arrow though. :(

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

Lets assume that this was the early hours of the morning, not only when Clark is most tired, but when he's been drained of some of his powers due to lack of sunlight.

I believe that the Black Canaries attack on Clark weakened him slightly. we've seen that Clark is indeed, MUCH faster than a bullet at this point, he's moved on from season 5, and earlier where he was only slightly faster than a bullet, and through season 6 his powers definately have got, well, more powerful.

Also take into account that this was relatively close quarter shooting, the bullets, arrow, knife were already fired/shot/trown when Clark was still pushing open the door to the room. Although, i'm doubtful to the fact that BC can throw a knife as fast as a bullet.

[smallvillefreak24]

are clark and lex interacting at all this season? I find all moments precious.. but ya obviously he thought black canary was more important then lex

[kp1984]

Maybe if he was on red K he would have let Lana kill him in wrath

[smallvillerocks45]

I've always heard that the rule is, Clark can not kill, but somewhere between the lines, the rule doesn't say that he can't let someone get hurt...just a little... ;)

[Honey45]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I felt like it was one of those "save one or the other" things. Between Black Canary and Lex, I'm not surprised Clark saved Black Canary.

Besides, the bullet was going right for BC's stomach. She probably would have died. The arrow was only going for Lex's arm/shoulder.

[Welling_is_pretty]

At first I took this as "Clark's done saving Lex" but then I thought back to the look that Clark gives Lex and thought he was looking at the angle and saw that it would just be a 'flesh wound' and so raced to save Dinah as her wound would be fatal.

Even when Clark and Lex are the bitterest of enemies in the comics Kal still saves him (and has, many times). There's actually a moment where Batman chides him for saving Lex and Clark says "I can't just let him die. He's my enemy but he's still a human being." Or something to that effect.

So I think that he was simply making a choice based on the greater need.

Think of it this way--mentally put Lana or Chloe in Lex's place. Having done that I still think Clark would have chosen to save BC. Cause Lana or Chloe would have recieved a flesh wound and Dinah would have died.

My opinion, anyway.

[clana4everfan2]

I say good for Clark for not saving Lex.. I mean Clark told Lana off and Lex needs to learn his lesson.. plus he puts himself in danger by being the evil person he is.. haha

[ClareKent]

I agree it was kinda the right desicion, but he could easily get the knife out of the way if he wanted to...maybe Clark's growing up finally...

[hansioux]

i have no doubt that Clark has time to stop all three of them from getting hurt.

Which involves

1. GA's arrow towards Lex
2. Lex's 1st bullet towards GA
3. Lex's 2nd Bullet towards BC
4. BC's blade towards Lex.

So that's 4 things to do in a small room, but not really that hard if he had time.

I think the biggest issue here is that Clark doesn't want to be seen. Not by Lex of course, but not even by GA and BC. He just wanted to be in and out. To travel at the speed and the time frame given so that no one sees him, he only has enough time to do first 3 on the list. To do the forth would require him to move backwards, which greatly increases his chances of being seen, since he would have to slow down enough to change the direction of his momentum. Therefore, since Lex isn't going to die from the blade, he didn't bother with that one.

Out of all 4 people involved, Clark is the only one that needed to protect his identity at that moment.

[aXem]

clark's used his heat vision to deflect things quite a few times.

But I agree with danny (and others), they wanted to make it clear he had to make a choice.

He is fast, but it's clear that they didn't slow things down as much as they normally do. I was quite surprised the bullet and knife were still moving when it's usually just "stop" mode with Clark.

And I'm sure they also wanted there to be discussion about whether clark did it just to make lex feel pain and to show how the little he cares for him.

mission accomplished.

[superpal1]

Clark wanted to hurt Lex. He realized the wound to Lex wouldn't be life threatening, so he let it happen. He is definitely fast enough to save them all. This blends in nicely to next week if you have read the spoilers and the interaction between Clark, Lex, and Chloe.

[WickedJenn]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I felt like it was one of those "save one or the other" things. Between Black Canary and Lex, I'm not surprised Clark saved Black Canary.

Besides, the bullet was going right for BC's stomach. She probably would have died. The arrow was only going for Lex's arm/shoulder.

The more I think about, that seems to be the most plausible scenario.

[borednow]

i have no doubt that Clark has time to stop all three of them from getting hurt.

Which involves

1. GA's arrow towards Lex
2. Lex's 1st bullet towards GA
3. Lex's 2nd Bullet towards BC
4. BC's blade towards Lex.

So that's 4 things to do in a small room, but not really that hard if he had time.

I think the biggest issue here is that Clark doesn't want to be seen. Not by Lex of course, but not even by GA and BC. He just wanted to be in and out. To travel at the speed and the time frame given so that no one sees him, he only has enough time to do first 3 on the list. To do the forth would require him to move backwards, which greatly increases his chances of being seen, since he would have to slow down enough to change the direction of his momentum. Therefore, since Lex isn't going to die from the blade, he didn't bother with that one.

Out of all 4 people involved, Clark is the only one that needed to protect his identity at that moment.

Good point.

I thought they set it up to show a choice between saving BC and saving Lex and he chose BC. I don't think he did it because he wanted to see Lex hurt. If he did then Clark is jerk. Pretty low to let someone get stabbed just because you don't like them. Besides I thought that issue was dealt with in Nemesis. Clark will save Lex no matter how angry he is with him. Unless Clark has regressed farther :eek: gaw, I don't even want to think about that!

[TheANIMAL (marcus)]

Letting Lex get stabbed is no worse than the abuse Clark gives to crooks and criminals under other situations where he lays the smackdown on people.

He knew very early on that Lex would not die.

[Dannyblue1]

I don't think Clark let Lex get stabbed because he "wanted him to feel some pain" because Smallville is Anvil City. They don't do subtle. When they want to make a point, they beat us upside the head with it to make sure we get it.

Clark letting Lex get hurt as some sort of punishment would've been a big deal, a major character moment. If that was what the writers intended, they would've had him tell Chloe that's what he did (while looking all guilty and conflicted). Or they would've had him tell Lana during his "I've done bad things too, and I'm not perfect either" speech. They would've done something to make sure we got that that's what happened, because that's how this show works.

[All about Clark]

I firmly believe Clark saved Lex's life from the arrow that came from GA. Canary's blade was clearly not going to kill Lex and Clark had to make a judgement to call to protect Lex from a non-life threatening injury versus a life threatening injury to Canary. There was no intent on Clark's part to let Lex get hurt, the intent was to save a life first. Please, any thoughts of Clark doing wrong are way off base.

[TKFlash]

I am not condoning it, but he did it so Lex would learn a lesson.

[Dannyblue1]

I am not condoning it, but he did it so Lex would learn a lesson.

What lesson, exactly?

That he's doing bad things? Lex already knew that.

That Clark and he aren't friends anymore? Lex already knew that.

That doing bad things could lead to him getting hurt? Boy, does Lex already know that one!

So, again, what lesson was Clark trying to teach him, exactly? What would a non-lethal knife wound do that all of the other things that have happened to Lex as a result of his own actions hasn't?

And I very much doubt that, the way it was set up, Clark had time to think, "Yeah, I'll let the knife go. That'll be a good object lesson for Lex. Like a slap on the hand for his bad deeds."

And, like I said in my former post, this show don't do subtle. If Clark was supposed to have let the knife go to teach Lex a lesson, they would've done something to make sure we got that that was what was going on.

[borednow]

That doing bad things could lead to him getting hurt? Boy, does Lex already know that one!


He also knows that doing good things leads to him getting hurt, doing normal things lead to him getting hurt, and doing nothing leads to him getting hurt. Let's face it Lex has been shot more times then Buster. :lol:

[Eri-El]

Lex deserved it.

[Dannyblue1]

Lex deserved it.

Whether Lex deserved it or not isn't the issue. The point is that I think (and really hope) Clark didn't make the choice he did for that reason.

Personally, I'd hate to think Superman would think that way, that it's okay to let someone get hurt because you decide they deserved it. That kind of thinking seems more like...well, like something Lex would think, actually.

[LoveLiving]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I felt like it was one of those "save one or the other" things. Between Black Canary and Lex, I'm not surprised Clark saved Black Canary.

Besides, the bullet was going right for BC's stomach. She probably would have died. The arrow was only going for Lex's arm/shoulder.

You're right. The bullet was heading for her heart- and it was very CLOSE to getting there, and Lex had his arms with the two the guns completely crossed in front of his chest. He was not in danger of getting seriously hurt, but BC was. Right choice...

[Eri-El]

Whether Lex deserved it or not isn't the issue. The point is that I think (and really hope) Clark didn't make the choice he did for that reason.

Personally, I'd hate to think Superman would think that way, that it's okay to let someone get hurt because you decide they deserved it. That kind of thinking seems more like...well, like something Lex would think, actually.


Well that's my opinion....:rolleyes:.....I don't think Clark did it because Lex deserved it, I think he did it because he knew that knife wouldn't kill Lex, but the bullet headed for BC would have killed her.

[HowardFilms]

Who cares?

By this thursday, Lex will be good as new. What knife wound? :lol:

[TheLastKryptonian]

Who cares?

By this thursday, Lex will be good as new. What knife wound? :lol:

lol not exactly he's about to be shot (again)

[borednow]

The man has been shot more times than ballistics gel in a crime lab!

[magoo]

I thought it was funny, and also a great use of special effects, when the dagger of the Black Cannary was flying towards Lex and Clark, seeing it, just lets it continue to stab Lex. Clark is done saving Lex, if he can help it, and i just think that there is almost no shred of friendship left between the both of them.

Probably already been said but Clark would not have let Lex get stabbed if he'd seen the trajectory of the knife heading straight for his heart or his throat. He could tell it was only going for his shoulder so decided not to waste valuable time by saving BC from the bullet instead.

[hansioux]

well, maybe Clark just figured that Lex has been shot so many times and still survives, a stab wound is just a piece of cake for Lex.

[aXem]

I think it's pretty clear when you look at it that he had to make a choice on who to save.

[KryptonStones]

Yes, he did have a choice, or not even really a choice, but choices. He has several abilities at his disposal and he chose to limit himself to only super speed. We've seen Clark Kent melt bullets with his heat vision. Remember, in "HEAT" when he clearly utilized this technique to melt the bullets. Either he CHOSE to let Lex Luthor get his shouldeer impailed with the arrow or he simply didn't use that head in that situation. And the bullet was in the position where Clark could've utilized his heat vision without in any way physically harming the black canaery. Of course this is all according to my opinion, but history has shown that Clark could've possibly melted the knife before hitting Lex, or could have even melted the bullet and saved Lex from his injury.

[aXem]

yeah I see your point.

It could be looked at that clark was just apathetic about saving Lex and didn't even care enough to use the heat vision/didnt care if he got hurt.

I prefer to see it either as the writers conveniently overlooking the ability to make him choose, or Clark being so surprised by everything that was going on that he didn't think about the heat vision quickly enough (maybe because I'd rather not see Superman behaving in that noncaring way).

This is largely due to the fact that time didn't slow down in the scene as much as it normally does, and the panicked look on clark's face as he was sizing things up.

[All about Clark]

He also knows that doing good things leads to him getting hurt, doing normal things lead to him getting hurt, and doing nothing leads to him getting hurt. Let's face it Lex has been shot more times then Buster. :lol:

I don't buy this. Lex is always involved either directly or indirectly when he gets hurt. Like Wes' wife coming after Lex, yes Lex did wrong, like guy moving in frequencys, oh yeah, Lex had him prisoner, Lex getting shot after conspiring against Jonathan's election and I can go on and on. And by now Lex has enough negative karma, he probably could get hurt brushing his teeth.

[KristinKrazy]

I thought it was funny, and also a great use of special effects, when the dagger of the Black Cannary was flying towards Lex and Clark, seeing it, just lets it continue to stab Lex. Clark is done saving Lex, if he can help it, and i just think that there is almost no shred of friendship left between the both of them.

now, now children :) one might consider the fact that Clark knew the odds...

"On this side, weighing in at 0.64 pounds, Silver Daggerrrr!!!"

"aaaand on this side, weighing in at a scant 0.002 pounds, Bullleetttt!""

Ding ding ding!

* Bullet kills. Daggers just harm.*

* Bullet wins.*

*Me go save Black Canary*

*Black Canary ok*

lol

that's my take. Now, do I think there was a hint of Clark being angry at Lex and was there a 0.000001% chance that was true, yes I believe so. However remember, we all know that Clark has always and will continue to save lex no matter how evil he becomes. "Because that isn't his decision"...remember?

yay? nay?

:p

[Superbeard]

Clark knew next to nothing about Black Canary and her possibly twisted perspective. It probably wasn't a character thing. The bullet fired from Lex was more likely to kill BC than the knife she threw at him was. He was standing right there, pretty clear it was just gonna get him in the shoulder.

Wait a second.... if he was in range to knock away Ollie's arrow, couldn't he have taken out BC's knife in the same fell swoop?

Eh, whatever. Where would be the tension in a Mexican standoff if Clark could just save everyone?

[All about Clark]

I think the point was to give Clark a choice and he chose to save a life. ^As for the swoop, there were 2 seperate swipes, Clark first took out Ollie's arrow, then Lex's bullet, then made a decision to save Canary. I actually thought they handled the scene very well, not to mention the shot of Lex with his double pistols crossed and his determined to kill look was just priceless. It would be hard for Clark to erase that image.

[smallvillian141]

and i just think that there is almost no shred of friendship left between the both of them.

yeah... i agree... its kinda sad though. Somtimes i miss when they were friends but it is they're destiny!
i was so upset cuz i missed this episode so i had to catch up on youtube :lol:

[Dean_19]

I think the shot was presented as Clark deciding between one or the other, but it's a bit of an inconsistency from the speed he showed in Jinx.

As for the super thinking thing, I think operating at superspeed is something Clark has to consciously slip into. If it weren't, operating at 'normal' speed would be insanely boring for him, like us purposely slowing our movements down to 1/100th of the speed!

I think he can think at superspeed, but has to 'turn it on', like the hearing.

[aXem]

isn't the inconsistency in speed explainable by how much sun he gets (or whatever), though?
He had been locked inside the fortress for weeks, so that could also be part of his slower-than-normal reaction time. Even though I don't think it was explained or anything.

[borednow]

I don't buy this. Lex is always involved either directly or indirectly when he gets hurt. Like Wes' wife coming after Lex, yes Lex did wrong, like guy moving in frequencys, oh yeah, Lex had him prisoner, Lex getting shot after conspiring against Jonathan's election and I can go on and on. And by now Lex has enough negative karma, he probably could get hurt brushing his teeth.

I'd say this is true now, but was it really true way back when? Did season 1 Lex deserve all those people trying to kill him? I'm not sure you can convince me of that one. I think way back in the beginning Lex learned those lessons about the potential for him to get hurt doing anything.

[Imzadia]

I thought one of lexs bullets was heading towards BC so thats why he saved her and not lex..

;)That's what I saw, too. Clark had to make a Choice. He managed to slap away the bullet that was going to hit GA, and he slapped away the arrow that was going to hit Lex. However, Lex had two guns firing and his other target was BC. While her knife was going to hit Lex in the shoulder, it seemed that Lex's bullet was going to hit BC in the chest...maybe wounding her Fatally. IMO, even at Superspeed he couldn't deflect all four shots in time to save all combatants. :\

[sil3nt]

what if clark did save lex from the dagger? I thought he didnt do it so that one of them would win and theyd stop fighting which could lead up to maybe a few more shots being fired.

[aXem]

good point^

[UpandAtom]

I think that Clark letting Lex get him by the knife was some sign of petty revenge. If Lex was still his friend, i'm sure that he would have chosen him over Black Canary, or found a way to save both. Instead, he sees the knife headed toward his enemy and decides that Lex could use a little pain, while deciding to save Black Canary.

Also, even though the knife was heading for Lex's shoulder, he could have still bled to death. Would Clark want something like that on his conscience?

[Dannyblue1]

I think that Clark letting Lex get him by the knife was some sign of petty revenge. If Lex was still his friend, i'm sure that he would have chosen him over Black Canary, or found a way to save both. Instead, he sees the knife headed toward his enemy and decides that Lex could use a little pain, while deciding to save Black Canary.

I'd hate to see this as Clark's reasoning. That, "He deserves a little pain," way of thinking is more what I'd expect Lex to think, not Clark, who will one day be Superman.

And I think "Fracture" pretty much goes against the idea that Clark doesn't mind seeing Lex get hurt now just because they aren't friends anymore. He seemed pretty worried when he saw Lex in the hospital. And seeing the memory of Lex getting shot didn't fill him with happiness, either.

I think we've seen that, despite everything, Clark will still try to save Lex, no matter what. That's one of the things I like about Clark.

I still think that, in that scene, Clark had to make a choice. Either stop Lex from getting non-fatally injured, or stop BC getting fatally wounded. For the sake of drama, they showed the viewer Clark didn't have time to do both. So he made the choice that would end up with no one dead.

And before anyone gives me a list of all of Clark's powers, and what he should've done, this has always been one of the problems with writing Superman stories. He's so powerful that, in order to create any kind of drama, they often have to temporarily "forget" some of those powers to get a story going.

I've seen the same arguments used for "Fracture." With Clark's powers, he could've gone to Detroit and just listened for the sounds of Kara and Lois's voices. Or he could've gone to the area where Lex was found and started x-raying buildings. As fast as he is, he could've gone to Detroit and done a house-by-house search.

Problem is that, if he'd done any of the things he should be capable of doing, we wouldn't have gotten much of a story.

[Hopefulsuicide]

well its was ridiculous cause he could have used his heat vision to stop one, and caught the other... i mean we have seen him melt bullets into nothingness

or he could have knocked the knife with his super breathe

[Dyanara]

Sorry I thought Clark had to make a decision between saying BC or Lex and he saw that Lex wouldnt be hurt too bad from the knife but that BC would be wounded mortally.

[clana4everfan2]

Ahh Lex got himself into trouble and he kind of deserved it. You can't blame CK... for all that Lex has done to him, his family, and loved ones. He has emotions so sometimes they get in the way of his judgement.

[Dannyblue1]

Ahh Lex got himself into trouble and he kind of deserved it. You can't blame CK... for all that Lex has done to him, his family, and loved ones. He has emotions so sometimes they get in the way of his judgement.

I don't think so. In this situation, I choose to believe the best of Clark. I just wouldn't think it was in any way "cool" for Clark to have let Lex get stabbed in some petty show of anger. That, to me, would just make Clark look like a jerk. (I was going to use another word, but I don't think I can on this board.)

However, Clark having to make a decision in the heat of the moment, and choosing the best possible option given the circumstances, is the kind of thing a hero has to do.

[Hopefulsuicide]

i think the scene was meant to show how much the dynamic between lex and clark has changed... back in season 2 he would have made alot more effort to stop lex getting hurt

i dont think it was malicious, it's simply that lex getting a bit hurt is no longer a priority to clark

[6-Super-Man -5]

Looks like Clark doesn't really like him anymore.

[Suped!]

I agree, Clark definitely fast enough to stop both bullet and knife. How about episode "Freak" when he saved everyone (3 people) from the same situation, there was a bullet and some kind of lasor devise already in mid stream when he entered the house. He had to race across room and not a soul got touched.

[All about Clark]

i think the scene was meant to show how much the dynamic between lex and clark has changed... back in season 2 he would have made alot more effort to stop lex getting hurt

i dont think it was malicious, it's simply that lex getting a bit hurt is no longer a priority to clark

Agreed it was not malicious, however I don't think they're relationship or lack of had anything to do with it. Clark saved Lex from Ollie's arrow, but if Clark would have gone after the blade from BC, he wouldn't have reached the bullet heading to BC.

I don't think we have the right to say to say Superman should have reached all of them. We need to go by what the show was conveying, and it looked like Clark just barely got to BC's bullet before it hit her and it would have been life threatening. I honestly do not feel Clark's emotions had anything to do with that scene, it was more about what he had time to do.

[Hopefulsuicide]

yeah i agree with you there

i dont think the scene was meant for anything huge... i mean it was literally just a rational decision, what he did

but i do think that he is learning about the fact that he cant save everyone from everything, and the weight and responsibility that is going to weigh on him

or maybe i just hope he is

[JNottle]

You guys are just looking for ways to shark the writing in everyway possible.

Don't forget, he knows Lex has some sort of meteor infection which helps his health and healing somehow, can't remmeber the exact details.

He walks in, sees an arrow heading for Lex, and smacks it away, he sees a bullet heading for Ollie and takes care of it, he looks back and sees a knife heading for his shoulder area, and then he sees a bullet heading for Dinah, he knows he can't stop both and with his heat vision he's got to stay still normally for perfect acaracy so he only had time for one, he took out the one what would cause more harm, I'm sure if Canary and Lex were switched places, he would of helped Lex.