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Ardiem3

11-14-2007, 08:17 PM

What do you guys think is the best 8th episode of the series?

Season 1: "Jitters" - An ex-LuthorCorp employee insists that his spasmodic rages are a result of an incident that occured on the plants secret Level 3.
Season 2: "Ryan" - Clark uses his powers to free his young mind-reading friend Ryan.
Season 3: "Shattered" - Lex is acting erratically but with Clarks help, he will try to convince all that he is sane.
Season 4: "Spell" - Burned at the stake in 1604 for witchcraft, three women come back to life using Lana, Chloe, and Lois as hosts for their spirits.
Season 5: "Solitude" - A strange madady grips Martha, is Jor-El attempting to collect her.
Season 6: "Statitc" - Clark gets an unexpected bailout while combating a Zoner who devours his victims skeletons.
Season 7: "Blue" - Clark sees his biological mother after plundging Kara's crystal, that contains his mothers DNA, into the Fortress.

Dodge006

11-14-2007, 08:58 PM

Blue all the way, this falls just under Justice as my most edge of my seat moments.

redraven

11-14-2007, 09:09 PM

All the eps were below average aside from 'Shattered', which was a great episode; 'Ryan' was good too.

I haven't seen all of Blue yet so I'll reserve my judgement.

lillie_poo_pod

11-14-2007, 09:56 PM

Shattered.

Alexander III

11-15-2007, 01:44 AM

Blue is awwwwwwwesome!!!

Krypton935

11-15-2007, 05:59 AM

Shattered was really good and so wa Ryan but I haven't seen Blue yet.

DreadShamus

11-15-2007, 09:14 AM

Haven't seen Blue, but Ryan was probably best of the ones I've seen.

samanta

11-15-2007, 10:49 AM

Can't help it but I love Spell :o

ClarkyBoy14

11-15-2007, 10:59 AM

Right now, I'd say "Shattered" and "Solitude" are the best, but it could change after I see "Blue."

Anyone notice both "Solitude" and "Blue" feature fights in the FOS?

red_cape_7

11-15-2007, 11:37 AM

shattered. MR was awesome. he plays crazy so well

Dri-Sa

11-15-2007, 02:34 PM

Blue was in my opinion VERY underrated.
best 8th episode in the series followed closely behind by Ryan, Solitude and Shattered

Elite

11-15-2007, 05:59 PM

im going with Solitude. the first glimpse of Zod and Brainiac vs Clark in the fortress of solitude...you cant beat that

although Shattered was pretty good too. that scene where Lex smashes the car into Clark was awesome.

DreadShamus

11-15-2007, 07:08 PM

Canuckleheads.

Lexgirl33

11-15-2007, 07:22 PM

Nothing will be Solitude

lilkoolmaria

11-15-2007, 07:34 PM

Shattered. MR is amazing.

Krypton935

11-15-2007, 08:30 PM

Blue it was frickin amazing!!!!!

theotherJane

11-15-2007, 10:03 PM

I can't believe only six people voted for "Solitude." Even godawful "Spell" beat it.

Mello Penelo

11-15-2007, 10:05 PM

Ryan

Odysseus

11-15-2007, 10:13 PM

For me, it's a three-way tie between Shattered, Solitude, and Blue.

But Ryan is a runner-up. I've always thought episode had the second-saddest ending (the saddest IMO was the end of Reckoning).

bad3appels

11-15-2007, 11:12 PM

shattered was awsome,Mr can act like hell

svtwamedfan05

11-15-2007, 11:14 PM

BLUE!!!!!!!! By far than Solitude

MRluvr

11-15-2007, 11:17 PM

Shattered is the best Smallville episode EVER!! MR is so freakin amazing, nothing can beat it.

MidgardDragon

11-16-2007, 01:13 AM

Solitude, Shattered, Ryan, and Blue are the standout episodes. I think I have to go with Blue over Shattered, because it focused more on Clark's mythos and had a completely unexpected reveal.

xrayvision

11-16-2007, 01:14 AM

Shattered was awesome. I would choose Solitude as my 2nd favorite and Jitters as 3rd (I love that episode too). Here's the order from favorite to least favorite for me:

Shattered
Solitude
Jitters
Ryan
Blue
Static
Spell

SweetOne

11-16-2007, 01:24 AM

Shattered......it's repetitive but MR is an AMAZING actor.

I just wish this season involved Lex more. Isn't this MR's last season??? I would like to see as much of him as I can before he leaves. It will be such a detriment to the show.

ginnyfan

11-16-2007, 01:50 AM

Shattered
Blue
Ryan
Static
Solitude
Jitters
Spell

MidgardDragon

11-16-2007, 02:02 AM

Originally posted by SweetOne
Shattered......it's repetitive but MR is an AMAZING actor.

I just wish this season involved Lex more. Isn't this MR's last season??? I would like to see as much of him as I can before he leaves. It will be such a detriment to the show.

We don't know for sure that this is his last season, only that that's when his contract is up, as it is with everyone but (I believe) Tom. We've also got to consider the writer's strike and how it will effect the season. They could have had a Lex-centric second half of the season planned that they've had to condense. Unless they finish his story out before episode 15, though, they'll probably get him to come back for at least a couple of episodes of Season 8. That's only if the strike lasts long enough to make finishing off the season impossible, of course.

CallMeClark

11-16-2007, 05:32 AM

Solitude
Shattered
Blue.

Theshadow129x

11-16-2007, 05:46 AM

blue has been without a doubt the worst episode i have seen so far...i could watch noir over this one. it was just....terrible.

personally i loved solituve and shattered but seeing as i could only vote for one i voted for solitude.

Mr.Magic

11-16-2007, 08:06 AM

Spell

Good, campy fun.

ClarkyBoy14

11-16-2007, 09:06 AM

Shattered and Blue tied, then
Solitude
Jitters
Ryan
Spell
Static

muffinpeddler

11-16-2007, 09:19 AM

I voted Blue, but only because I didn't favor the main plot in static. I loved the subplot with Aldar and MM though.

kal-el_Girl

11-16-2007, 11:34 AM

shattered is INCREDIBLE!!!! oh how I miss the good old days when lex was crazy and lana was in the hospital... hospital huh? wasn't she in a hospital in blue? my bad

dvg89

11-16-2007, 11:36 AM

Solitude was my favorite and Blue is the 2nd best. Though all the 8th episodes were good

gategod

11-16-2007, 11:39 AM

I don't understand how Blue is winning, is it because you just watched it, and actually enjoyed it? It had maybe 5 good minutes in it that i enjoyed...

smallville sage

11-16-2007, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by Ardiem3
What do you guys think is the best 8th episode of the series?

Season 1: "Jitters" - An ex-LuthorCorp employee insists that his spasmodic rages are a result of an incident that occured on the plants secret Level 3.
Season 2: "Ryan" - Clark uses his powers to free his young mind-reading friend Ryan.
Season 3: "Shattered" - Lex is acting erratically but with Clarks help, he will try to convince all that he is sane.
Season 4: "Spell" - Burned at the stake in 1604 for witchcraft, three women come back to life using Lana, Chloe, and Lois as hosts for their spirits.
Season 5: "Solitude" - A strange madady grips Martha, is Jor-El attempting to collect her.
Season 6: "Statitc" - Clark gets an unexpected bailout while combating a Zoner who devours his victims skeletons.
Season 7: "Blue" - Clark sees his biological mother after plundging Kara's crystal, that contains his mothers DNA, into the Fortress.

To be fair, you should also mention about Static that that was the episode that Lex finds out Lana is pregnant and asks her to marry him. It wasn't that bad of an episode. I voted for Shattered, but Static got 0 votes? I didn't think Blue was THAT much better.

STFanatic

11-16-2007, 11:49 AM

It is a hard choice between "Ryan" & "Shattered", but I have to go with "Ryan" due to the reaction I saw in my wife & daughter when we watched it.
Also, it was one of the last few that I allowed my daughter to watch before the series got too (IMO) adult for my daughter.

chlo-el

11-16-2007, 12:29 PM

I'd say Spell, Ryan, and then Blue.

ClarkyBoy14

11-16-2007, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by gategod
I don't understand how Blue is winning, is it because you just watched it, and actually enjoyed it? It had maybe 5 good minutes in it that i enjoyed... My guess would be because we're all individuals and we're not forced to share your opinion.

Joelito

11-16-2007, 01:10 PM

Solitude and Blue :)

All about Clark

11-16-2007, 02:35 PM

1) Solitude
2) Spell
3) Blue
4) Ryan
5) Shattered

TampaVille

11-16-2007, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by smallville sage
To be fair, you should also mention about Static that that was the episode that Lex finds out Lana is pregnant and asks her to marry him. It wasn't that bad of an episode. I voted for Shattered, but Static got 0 votes? I didn't think Blue was THAT much better.

Static wasn't bad, but it is up against some stiff competition! Shattered, Solitude, and Ryan are all three some of my favorite episodes of the series. Blue itself wasn't terrible.

Pimson

11-16-2007, 04:21 PM

I think Blue was the best, or at least the most exciting. Solitude was also good, but not quite as good. Spell wasn't very much action in, but it's really funny with the witches :lol:

The other ones are half-decent.

M0RGAN

11-17-2007, 05:36 PM

I would have to go with Shattered, but Blue is a close second.

Season 3: Shattered
Season 7: Blue
Season 1: Jitters
Season 5: Solitude
Season 2: Ryan
Season 6: Static
Season 4: Spell

smallvillerocks45

11-17-2007, 07:17 PM

This is really hard, especially because I haven't seen many of these episodes in a long time. That being said, Ryan is an episode that stands out in my mind. It was one of the first episodes of Smallville that I ever saw, so it has some special significance to it (for me at least), that's why I voted for it.

TheANIMAL (marcus)

11-18-2007, 09:28 AM

Solitude

Welling_is_pretty

11-18-2007, 07:27 PM

This was a tough one. I loved Blue but I also loved Ryan and Shattered and yes, Jitters (c'mon, the party scene and Clark cleaning up after? Classic!).

But I had to go with Blue in the end. At long last...Lara.

TampaVille

11-18-2007, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by Welling_is_pretty
This was a tough one. I loved Blue but I also loved Ryan and Shattered and yes, Jitters (c'mon, the party scene and Clark cleaning up after? Classic!).

But I had to go with Blue in the end. At long last...Lara.

You know, as terrible as Jitters was at times... it really was better in a lot of ways than even the good episodes are now. SV had something special back then that it's lost.

Welling_is_pretty

11-18-2007, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by TampaVille
You know, as terrible as Jitters was at times... it really was better in a lot of ways than even the good episodes are now. SV had something special back then that it's lost.
agreed. I don't know exactly what to call it (innocence? wonder? not being wrapped up in itself?) but whatever it did have back then seems to have been lost along the way.

TampaVille

11-18-2007, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by Welling_is_pretty
agreed. I don't know exactly what to call it (innocence? wonder? not being wrapped up in itself?) but whatever it did have back then seems to have been lost along the way.

I like all the ways you put it. Innocence, wonder, not being wrapped up in itself.

Also, it was more character-driven back then. I actually cared about the relationships between characters (and I don't just mean romantic relationships). Clark and Lex being friends who were doomed to become mortal enemies, that was great. Even the non-canon relationships were interesting.

Now... I just can't care about the characters in the same way. Probably because the writers tried doing too much with them, and just ruined them one by one. Same with the relationships between them. I think the friendship between Clark and Chloe is still interesting, as is the strange father/son relationship between Lionel and Clark. Most other connections on the show are just pretty dull.

The show's almost entirely plot driven at this point, which is okay, because the plot's not bad, but you can't get excited about fighting this big bad or that one in the same way that you can about characters that you know and love and care about.

Back in Jitters... I really cared that Clark's party be a success! Now... if they even tried an episode like that (obviously not with Clark entertaining a bunch of high school students, haha, that would just be wrong), I don't think I'd really care. They lost their focus along the way.

M0RGAN

11-19-2007, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by TampaVille
Now... I just can't care about the characters in the same way. Probably because the writers tried doing too much with them, and just ruined them one by one. Same with the relationships between them. I think the friendship between Clark and Chloe is still interesting, as is the strange father/son relationship between Lionel and Clark. Most other connections on the show are just pretty dull. To some degree I agree. When a show shakes up the dynamics of relationships it becomes a little more interesting. (I was really interested in seeing how the Martha & Lionel relationship would effect the other characters in season 6 if they allowed it to progress beyone Rage, but the concept looked as though it was thrown aside for other storylines.) And I can see how the other relationships seem dull. I'm definitely not a big Chloe/Jimmy or Grant/Lois fan, but I'm willing to sit through the druggery of their storylines to the end & see if there is the possiblility of storyline development for the other characters.

TampaVille

11-19-2007, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by M0RGAN
To some degree I agree. When a show shakes up the dynamics of relationships it becomes a little more interesting. (I was really interested in seeing how the Martha & Lionel relationship would effect the other characters in season 6 if they allowed it to progress beyone Rage, but the concept looked as though it was thrown aside for other storylines.) And I can see how the other relationships seem dull. I'm definitely not a big Chloe/Jimmy or Grant/Lois fan, but I'm willing to sit through the druggery of their storylines to the end & see if there is the possiblility of storyline development for the other characters.

I love the addition of new characters. It's a great way to keep an aging show fresh. They've just lost their attention to actual characters that you can care about. I think part of that comes from the way they just force the new people onto us. The worst was probably Jimmy. Chloe: "Hey look everybody, it's Jimmy Olson. You know, from the comics? It's Jimmy Olson! And guess what? He's my boyfriend now. So he'll be in the credits too."

They've actually been better with him the last few episodes he was in. At first though, he was just a complete one dimensional facade of a person. That's how all the characters seem much of the time.

MidgardDragon

11-20-2007, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by Welling_is_pretty
agreed. I don't know exactly what to call it (innocence? wonder? not being wrapped up in itself?) but whatever it did have back then seems to have been lost along the way.

Completely disagreed. What it had back then was youth, but it was very very boring youth. What it's gained now is maturity and it's interesting and entertaining maturity.

Welling_is_pretty

11-22-2007, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by TampaVille
I like all the ways you put it. Innocence, wonder, not being wrapped up in itself.
thanks!

I actually cared about the relationships between characters (and I don't just mean romantic relationships). Clark and Lex being friends who were doomed to become mortal enemies, that was great. Even the non-canon relationships were interesting.
well, for me it was alsoa refreshing change from the usual "Luthor!" and "Superman!" dynamic we see in the comics and movies. So that was nice. And of course, back then the characters didn't seem to have a personality transplant every 3 epsiodes (or less, even!).

I think the friendship between Clark and Chloe is still interesting, as is the strange father/son relationship between Lionel and Clark. Most other connections on the show are just pretty dull.
agreed! (we seem to be agreeing with each other a lot, huh? Great minds and all..) Clark and CHloe's relationship, IMO, has remained one of the true constant joys of this show. Even if I do want to hit that BDA over the head for not realizing Chloe's awesomeness and hooking up with her!

Back in Jitters... I really cared that Clark's party be a success! Now... if they even tried an episode like that (obviously not with Clark entertaining a bunch of high school students, haha, that would just be wrong), I don't think I'd really care. They lost their focus along the way.
It's funny but thinking about Jitters made me realize that back then that sort of thing made an impact. Now, something happens to the main characters and it doens't seem to affect them the next week or after. At least that's how it seems to me. Back then every little thing was a huge deal in Clark's world (as befitting a teenager, even if he is an alien!). Now it's "oh Lana went evil again. Who wants pie?" *sighs*

And Midgard, I have to disagree. I thought the confusion and trials of Clark's youth (and how it affected the other people) were much more interesting. But to each their own. :)

TampaVille

11-22-2007, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by Welling_is_pretty
well, for me it was alsoa refreshing change from the usual "Luthor!" and "Superman!" dynamic we see in the comics and movies. So that was nice. And of course, back then the characters didn't seem to have a personality transplant every 3 epsiodes (or less, even!).

Well, the way the movies delve into the Superman/Luthor relationship is sort of like... actually, they DON'T delve into the Superman/Luthor relationship. They have no relationship. They're just "the good guy" and "the bad guy." Believe it or not, L&C did a FANTASTIC job of developing the Lex Luthor character. 2nd only to Smallville's early Lex, imo.

agreed! (we seem to be agreeing with each other a lot, huh? Great minds and all..) Clark and CHloe's relationship, IMO, has remained one of the true constant joys of this show. Even if I do want to hit that BDA over the head for not realizing Chloe's awesomeness and hooking up with her!

I think Chlark would have been a nice addition to the show much much earlier. It would have had to have come before she became his confidante like she is now. Frankly, I doubt it would have been done well, so I'm rather glad that they didn't ruin everything by doing their romantic relationship poorly. On Smallville, it's sometimes better to have never loved at all. Like when your homicidal girlfriend gets zapped with a lightning bolt and tries to kill... well, everybody. Speaking of...

Now it's "oh Lana went evil again. Who wants pie?" *sighs*

LOL

All about Clark

11-27-2007, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Completely disagreed. What it had back then was youth, but it was very very boring youth. What it's gained now is maturity and it's interesting and entertaining maturity.

The show was slower and had youth and innocence and the family dynamic. But it would be wrong if that's all it had now that Clark's older. Things have to change and change is clearly needed to get geeky cute Clark to Superman. Seeing Clark mature and deal with grown up issues and world-wide issues is very important to his development. I no longer want to see a child Clark and a Clark full of innocence. He's got to be tougher and I do like that aspect of the show that show's Clark needs to be tougher. I'd prefer he was smarter; that has been the one failing part IMO.

I think MidgardDragon and I see the good the show has produced early on as well as now, and the show was slower paced then, and now needs to be faster paced, because there's more to tell, bigger consequences, and a deeper impact on the characters. And I don't think the show needs to be super-heavy on character driven because we do have the early years for just that. Just apply what you know to their current situations.

xManofTomorrowx

11-27-2007, 02:15 PM

Close decision between Ryan and Shattered, but...

Clark's concern for Ryan and his desperate efforts to save him were heartbreaking. I thought it was CK at his most heroic.

Loved the Warrior Angel references, particularly in reference to Lex.

Clark learns loss in this episode, and that his superpowers cannot not always overcome the challenges presented to him.

One of my series favorites.