Do you think that Adam is manipulating Peter?

[gunste1n]

Through out the series we have seen that a lot of characters tend to manipulate people to get their will on things. So my big question this week is.

Do you think that Adam is manipulating Peter to help Adam accomplish his view of a greater good?

[Alexander III]

He's a bad guy, obviously!"

[pycer]

I think, perhaps, this question falls under the 'and/or duuuh' category

[gunste1n]

I dont know what to believe any more..

Too many people who seems to have their own agenda. I just hope that we'll get a clearer picture before the production company runs out of episodes(due to the strike).

Enough about that subject.

I think I'm gonna go for Adam is a good boy..... Simply because I don't believe that Adam has been living with a sinister mind through centuries.

[The Great Ymmij]

He's already perceived as "the bad guy," so yeah, he's definitely manipulating Peter.

[Superman's Princess]

Yeah, I believe Adam is manipulating Peter. But I like seeing them together. It's fun to watch.

[gunste1n]

Originally posted by pycer
I think, perhaps, this question falls under the 'and/or duuuh' category

Or not.

There's a difference between sharing views of a greater good and manipulating a person to believe your own vision.

Edit: And as we all know Peter has allways been the good and the truthful one who would never inflict harm upon the innocent.

[jazzylg]

I think adam might be good. Think about how hiro came out of nowhere, convinced him to be a hero, and then the woman he loves disses him. Wouldn't you be pissed?

[Xanderman]

Yeah Adam is playing Peter for sure. He knows how powerful Peter is, what better ally to help him accomplish whatever he's set on doing.

Healing Nathan was all just to gain his trust and loyalty. Peter'll probably do anything for Adam now because he feels like he's in his debt.

[MidgardDragon]

Yeah, I think he's definitely manipulating him. From the little we know about him he basically was the prophet of all those little schemes to save the world by killing, Linderman was his disciple after all. The way Adam is talking about "saving the world" he sounds just like Linderman did.

[Xanderman]

Exactly, Linderman's idea of "saving the world" was something twisted, sourced by the teachings of the revenge-bent Kensei/Adam himself no doubt.

I see Adam as basically Magneto in some ways.

[CallMeClark]

Is this a rhetorical question?

Um... yes!

[pycer]

Originally posted by gunste1n


Edit: And as we all know Peter has allways been the good and the truthful one who would never inflict harm upon the innocent.

Right...which is why/how Adam is able to manipulate him and needs to, as Peter wouldn't help him otherwise.

[spicyblark]

I really don't trust Adam...

[Sweetie]

Of course,Adam is playing with Peter.He cured his brother to gain his trust.He wants revenge on Hiro!!!Hiro's presence in the past did a terrible mess.So,Adam wants to do the same in the future by releasing the deadly virus in New York.

[pycer]

Right on, he realizes Peter has power far greater than his own and wishes to use him, manipulate him to use his powers. Not unlike Sylar using Maya.

[nk_84]

It’s a difficult one to just say he is or he isn't. I believe to some extent yes, the term "save the world" is simply just a way to get Peter to nod. But how does Adam see the world? Is saving the world to Adam...a hurricane? So, in his own right he may be speaking the truth.

But we saw how he was before Hiro 'betrayed' him. He was a good man. So, in that respect there may be still good in him and I am sure we will see Adams character develop over the next few episodes as we find out exactly what he means when he says "save the world".

NK.

[pycer]

Actually, at first he was most definately not a good man...Hiro turned him into one...oe perhaps he let Hiro think he was turned into one. Perhaps, all along, he was allied with White Beard, and used Hiro as the scape goat when he got the chance.

[GuardianAngel]

Ok, Hiro did betray him, but Adam's reaction doesn't justify in any way his agreement with White Beard concerning the fate of Japan.

Well, if Adam's good, then so is Lex and money grows on trees! :lol:

[vuec]

Incredible that so many people has already branded him with bad guy / manipulator status. We don't even really know what's going on yet.

But I wish people like Peter would make a decision for themselves and not wait on others telling them what to do. Reminds me of Matrix: Reloaded. Be a hero and make your own decisions!

[GuardianAngel]

We may no know it, but remember the mess he created in Japan in 1671 with White Beard and his last words to Hiro (As long I have breath, anything you love I will light to waste...You will suffer). Definitely not the words of a forgiving man.

[Zeth Duuron]

I think it's obvious Adam's manipulating Peter. Adam basically laid a guilt-trip on Peter talking about what he had done to Nathan in the aims of getting Peter to help him break out.

And no, Adam was never a good guy. At best he was a drunk and a womanizer when we met him.

Now, as to say whether or not Adam is a good guy, I'd say we don't know. His methods, while unorthodox, may be just that -- unorthodox -- but still noble. 400 years is a long time. However, if we believe Bob (that would be a leap considering him unleashing Elle on Ireland), Linderman was Adam's disciple. Then again, do we really know if Linderman was really that bad a guy? All we know is that he was the master manipulator and could heal living things (flora and fauna). I think the discussion needs to be if Linderman was a good guy or a bad guy.

[GuardianAngel]

^ Considering that he wanted to blow up New York (which accounts to 0.07% of world population) I think he was a bad guy... Or maybe he was good and had a master plan to limit world population growth :lol:

[HowardFilms]

I am starting to think Adam has the right views about the company, but still will try revenge on Hiro when he meets up with him.

Either way, look for Kensei's redemption to come in Volume 3 if not 2...

Zeth,

Plus, was Linderman really working for Adam, or did Bob just say that because Nathan was jumping down the Company's throat?

[Sweetie]

Originally posted by GuardianAngel
^ Considering that he wanted to blow up New York (which accounts to 0.07% of world population) I think he was a bad guy... Or maybe he was good and had a master plan to limit world population growth :lol:

He was a bad guy of course.

Mrs.Petrelli was ready to let it happen to...She was running away.Didn't care about the population of New York at all.

Is Mrs.Petrelli good,bad or simply a coward :lol:

[GuardianAngel]

She's a very manipulative woman who tries to control her sons' destiny . Kaito Nakamura's words to her in the first episode of this season were very clear in this respect:
"[...] for the pain we caused, for the people we killed. There's no end to our suffering. I sought redemption by helping Hiro fulfil his destiny to save the world. How did you help your son?"

[Kalyxx]

He has his own agenda whether its good or bad we shall see. Just like Claire's dad we all thought he was bad then good. Right now I'm not sure. We'll just have to see. You never know.

[Coyote]

Yes, of course he's manipulating Peter. That "escape" was obviously fake. No way the Company would be stupid enough to put Peter and Adam conveniently in cells next to each other, and conveniently leave them access to communicate with each other without being monitored. The whole thing was a setup. Adam was planted there on purpose as part of a plan to manipulate dopey gullible Peter. Adam may be working for the Company, or he may even be the secret leader of the entire Company.

[RedPhoenix23]

Adam is totally manipulating Peter.

For some reason Adam/Kensei really went ratcrap crazy evil after Hiro kissed his girl, now he's totally obsessed with destroying everything important to Hiro and he's not above using Peter to do it. Poor Kensei. What a waste of a character. It's ridicules that he'd still harbor such resment after this long of a time. Especially since Hiro was clearly sorry and swore to leave the "princess" alone. I really hope they give him some depth because right now he's pretty pathetic. It's been over four hundered freaking years already! Get. Over. It.

[Mello Penelo]

Everyone is going to be blown out of the water when Adam is revealed as a good guy. Then everyone will feel bad when he dies permanently, because Mrs. Petrelli knows how to kill the regenerators.

[samwinchestermustdie]

of course he is. as i said in another thread adam is essentially ted bundy.

[Mello Penelo]

He is good.

[Equitex]

Originally posted by Coyote
Yes, of course he's manipulating Peter. That "escape" was obviously fake. No way the Company would be stupid enough to put Peter and Adam conveniently in cells next to each other, and conveniently leave them access to communicate with each other without being monitored. The whole thing was a setup. Adam was planted there on purpose as part of a plan to manipulate dopey gullible Peter. Adam may be working for the Company, or he may even be the secret leader of the entire Company.

I think I agree with you on this one. I believe Adam was the one that pushed Hiro's father off the building (during his "escape from the company" and he may be the founding member of The Company while seeking revenge on Hiro, he could be manipulating Peter to reach his goals considering that Peter is the only other person that can do time travels.

[Xanderman]

Yeah, it was all a set up. Adam is definitely not one of the good guys. He's going to use Peter for who knows what.