>>>Loved it? Hated it? What did you think of Lara?

[Dodge006]

Vote.

[Dodge006]

I voted 1!!!! Because it wasn't on tonight like it should have been.

[superhippie2000]

lol. guess you have to wait like the rest of us.

[Silent Kal]

I don't know really what to expect for this episode. I haven't paid such close attention to the spoilers, but I have a vague idea. I'm just not sure if this episode is going to be that great, even with the venerable Helen Slater.

[ClarkyBoy14]

This episode will be amazing, I'm sure.

[Izzysand]

This Episode was freaking awsome awsome i tell ya.

[xHerox]

This was another top-notch episode filled with everything that makes Smallville great. There was some awesome continuity in this episode for starters; I loved the throwback to "Memoria", one of my favorite episodes.

Apart from that, there were some great character moments and I absolutely love the dynamic between Clark and Kara. Seeing Lara for the first time was, obviously, amazing and I don't think they could have done it much better.

All in all, another fantastic episode worthy of a '10' rating! I was even intrigued by the sneak peek at the twist and I'm looking forward to next week's episode!

[RJLCyberPunk]

Funny it did air for us though!:D

And it was absolutely awesome it cleared many things and I'm glad that neither Kara (Supergirl) nor Martian Manhunter ended up being portrayed as villains in the show which would have horribly sucked not too mention smash canon source material into smithereens...
Anyway a 9 out of 10 for this one!
BTW: I suspect that the misterous government agency at work might be CADMUS!:p

[Ginx]

9/10 Pretty good episode. I like that we find out a little more of the House of El past as it relates to Smallville.

It's also interesting that CK outsmarted Kara as far as getting ahead of her for the crystal. I'm shocked at that - CK's motives for finding the crystal though - sketchy.

I loved that Kara and CK really seemed to bond this episode. I hope we see more of the family time - it's a good thing.

There were a few wtf moments that I would have liked explained like the super-cpr - wouldn't that have ripped through Kara in her weakened state? And how did that picture survive the meteor showers? etc. But oh well... it's tv not perfect just entertainment ;)

Next week's looks good too.

[theotherJane]

Eh...it was OK. I wasn't too thrilled with it.

[LoveHurts38]

I gave it an 8 it started out slow but, it did pick up. It's good to know Clark has a picture of his mom.

[Markd329]

SMALLVILLE scored another "TOUCHDOWN!" this week. This has been the best first 6 episodes ever since the first season. Even the somewhat cheesy "Fierce" and "Action" did more to advance the story than any other filler episode.

If the rest of the episodes this season holds up like this one, then season 7 will end up being the best ever. I really mean that too. Season 6 didn't get its act together until "Justice", and it took off from there. Season 7 started with a bang and the hits kept on coming.

[spideyfan]

It did start slow and the ending seemed rushed but in the end it was good:

Pros
Helen Slater as Lara
Getting the whole Zor-El was evil thing straightened out
Lionel

Cons
Changing the mythos up a bit to have Kara give CK the name Kal-El
CHanging mythos to have Lara and Kara visit Earth

8/10

[SuperEl]

I also gave it an 8. It was good but it had some How's and wtf moments. Almost gave it a 7 but the ending brought it up to an 8! I'd watch this episode again.

[double L]

Overall a good episode, Kara as she has been all season was great. She has been such a great addition to the show. The mythology part could have been better though.

Fierce was awful, but other than that it has been a strong season.

[seraphim]

This episode was okay as was the other episodes so far. The ending was good....I gave it an "8".

[iheartCK4eva]

this episode was the business im definately watching it again i gave it a 10

[Krypton935]

frickin amazing!!!!! I loved itit!!!!10!!!!

[Kryppy]

Good story + good acting + good pacing = Great Episode!

[Darth Pipes]

Really good episode. After a slow start, Smallville has really been picking up steam.

Loved the opening scene with the war on Kyrpton and Kara's close encounter with the ship. The flashbacks involving Zor-El and Lara were really good too. Nice to see Lionel getting back into the action. Clark's line at the end was pretty damn creepy.

Can't wait for more!

[ForzaItalia]

Great! I gave it a 10.

[ClarkyBoy14]

10! I was entertained from beginning to end.

It's so nice that Lionel's back; I had forgotten how much I missed him. Loved his scene w/ Lex.

Another great episode from a so far great season.

[Saber]

I gave it a 7, it was interesting enough. I think if it was a Supergirl spin-off, it would have been very good. Clark seems to be the bystander this season, I’m actually bored with his character. Instead of developing Clark, it seems they are living vicariously through Kara. She is everything… he is not in just six episodes. If they are going to play around with the mythos, then use it to develop Clark innate passion to help the world. I guess I’m just beating the dead horse here. So I’ll keep my complaining to a minimum because it was still a good episode.
At least Kara is progressing at a steady rate.

[Smallvilledabest]

i gave it a 10 loved every minute of it .

[faz]

I gave it a 7. It was good, but for such an iconic episode they could have done SO MUCH MORE.

xHerox, I have to disagree with you slightly on the continuity issue. There were some really strong continuity moments, but there were a lot of little things that didn't make a whole lot of sense (for those of you who, like myself, enjoy picking apart every tiny detail of the show). Why, for example, didn't Jor-El send Raya AND Clark through the portal rather than sending Clark off on a three-year journey (by the way, wasn't Clark two years old when he landed on Earth?) and sending Raya into the Phantom Zone?

On a similar note, even though this has practically very little to do with this episode, can anyone explain to me how Jor-El managed to hide the artifacts to build the FOS in a bunch of ancient societies but still he, Lara, Kara, and Zor-El manage to arrive on Earth in our time period? That questions been bugging me for years.

[STFanatic]

How creepy is it that Kryptonians sneak into people's houses when they are in church? :eek:

[redraven]

I gave the episode a 7. There were a few key points I enjoyed:

-Lana and the Isis Foundation
-Kara and Jimmy
-The Clark and Kara interaction
-The end scene where Clark sees the picture of Lara; the fact that he actually seems to be apprieciating his heritage.

Other than that I wasn't very entertained, I was expecting more of Lara and mythos aspects to come into play. And why am I not surprised that they wrote in another triangle? Jor-El/Lara/Zor-El. :rolleyes:

[MidgardDragon]

10/10 from me, everything I want out of Smallville was there.

[faz]

I wasn't even thinking about the triangle thing. I say enough of that already, wasn't that supposed to be LAST season's theme?

[svtwamedfan05]

I gave it a 10. Loved this episode. It was awesome learning more about Kara's first trip to Earth. I love how she really let Clark have it about being selfish. You go girl! Oh my I love this Kara and Jimmy thing. They were so adorable tonight. Oh and they kissed so cute. Love that Jimmy is getting more interaction with Clark. The Lara and Kara scene was sweet and touching. Helen Slater did an amazing job as Lara. Can't wait to see her back. It was awesome to learn why there is a feud between Jor-El and Zor-El. It was about time Clark save someone else besides Lana for a change and I'm glad it was his blood family. Love the argument between Kara and Clark, and they way Kara threw Clark out of her way was awesome. However I don't get why Clark is still keeping secrets from Lionel and tells Lana everything. Hello Lionel has been helping Clark and Lana has been keeping some pretty big secrets from Clark since she's been back. For crying out loud she faked her death now that girl is capable of anything. Especially after hearing the truth from Lex about the money and getting lied to straight from the witch's mouth. I'm hoping this next episode will atleast wake up something in that BDA's brain. Overall without all the Lana crap this episode was a very good episode.

Originally posted by faz
I wasn't even thinking about the triangle thing. I say enough of that already, wasn't that supposed to be LAST season's theme?

unfortually its been Smallville's theme since day one.

For example
Clark, Chloe, Pete
Clark, Lana, Chloe
Clark, Lana, Lex

Sadly it will never change.

Besides the only triangle that matters to me is Clark, Lois, and Lex. Always and forever the way its suppose to be.

[SVfan4ever]

10/10 Awesome. I enjoyed it from start to finish. Loved Clark & Kara's interaction. Lex & Lionel were great with the verbal low blows. Next week can't get here fast enough.

[paolinki25]

This was a good episode. Minor Clana drama and some background info on Clark and the House of El.

[jimmyolsenblues]

I loved it , I thought it was a great episode.
It built mythology of clark/lara/kara/zor-el. It actually formed mythology of previous events and how they tie to today. I really loved it.
Great writing, and I thought I never would say that.

[krypt0man]

The only good thing about Fierce was Kara's "B!TC# slap" that sent that evil supermodel flying into the dumpster. That's funny right there I don't care who ya are...

[legolazzz04]

Great show. It was entertaining and kept be wanting more.

Can't wait till next Thursday!

[BadToad]

I liked this episode a lot. I give it a solid 8 (higher than that is rare for me). Really good tense, pacing on this episode. Whoever the director was, he did an awesome good. These were new writers too, and the script was very good. Keep this team!

The biggest flaw in the episode for me was the very soap opera-ish flashback, and an unconvincing performance from Helen Slater.

[Indy88]

I didn't enjoy the episode. I actually fell asleep for about 15 minutes.

[monel49]

A fine episode. Gave it a 9. The strength of this season is fast becoming apparent. Good things tonight were the House of El explanations and the chemistry between Clark and Kara. Acting between the two was great. Supergirl has turned out to have a lot more depth than just eye candy. Of course, Lionel adds the menace and complexity as usual. In the end, Clark is looking much more like Superman. Well done!

[kavalier]

AlMiles, if you are reading this, you need to know this is your best season yet. Whatever your writers are doing in there, tell them to keep doing it!

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by kavalier
AlMiles, if you are reading this, you need to know this is your best season yet. Whatever your writers are doing in there, tell them to keep doing it!

Amen, brother. Keep stepping it up like this and that 8th season that you're wanting (you as in Al/Miles) might just happen!

[Billy Jor-El]

Great stuff, though the ep is kind of the Kara show, which I hope will not be the basis for the rest of the season. Don't get me wrong, I love her, but it's about Kal-El. Though because of Kara we get some key background info; and Helen looked awesome :) Don't know about the rest of you, but I was creeped out by the kryptonite IV drip!

Again TPTB want to show "poor Chloe?" AM looked absolutely fantastic in every scene, and in the end she's left alone while JO wanders off with Kara :( "It's not like she's from another planet..." I was expecting Chloe to make some comment to herself, but I guess it's not necessary.

Gave it an 8 btw....

[Farview]

I think this was the best episode of the season.... definitely a 10!

Some things I really liked:
Helen Slater as Lara
Clark's rescuing Kara (and Kryptonian CPR)
the revelations about Zor El's dark side
the on-going Luthor family dynamic
the scene with Chloe, Jimmy, and Kara and the "it's not like she's from another planet!" line... priceless!

One quibble was that Clark seemed pretty buddy-buddy with Lionel. Wasn't he steamed with Lionel about Lionel's essentially blackmailing Lana into marrying Lex?

All in all this episode reminded me why I like Smallville so much!

[xrayvision]

A perfect 10. Very exciting and a huge twist at the end.

[LexLuv180]

I LOVED this episode. It had about everything right going for it. From Lionel jumping in to save Clark, to Kyrptonian flashbacks, the ending twist, Lana and Chloe's scenes, and of course Lex with his temper.

[trying2b]

I LOVED IT!

[KryptoKnight]

number 9

[smlvilleluva]

i definitely thought that this was one of the best of the season thus far. i haven't been a huge fan of season 7 (i guess unlike most people), but this episode really turned things around for me. i loved the scenes between clark and kara - they really seemed geniune and showed off laura's acting.

[Mello Penelo]

Hated it. 5/10

[BWOracle]

IMO we have another 10 episode. They are definitely on a roll this season. So far I score it 10, 10, 8, 10, 10, and now 10 again.

Great opening. The very first graphic of the Kandar skyline was absolutely amazing. For a non-sweeps episode, that was a very expensive special effect and it looked spectacular. The Krypton set was obviously a re-lighting of the FOS. Good way to save a few bucks. But why do most Kryptonian crystals look like adult store novelties? Kara, watch out for those pesky 747s. Next time, better not hover daydreaming in the flight path of Dulles Airport.

Another nice special effect was Kara’s sheer white outfit, to go along with the hot red dress (especially the sweaty scene in the lab) and I actually thought she looked her best in the pink top and blue jeans from 1986. She really is a beautiful woman.

One thing I find very interesting this season is how Kara’s stories tend to be rewrites of some of Clark’s stories from the first 3 seasons. How Kara tells Zor-El that everything and everyone she loves is on Krypton (just like Clark’s love of everything and everyone in Smallville). We also get to revisit Clark’s visit to Summerholt in Memoria with Kara’s torture scene.

Jimmy was really shoving Kara in Chloe’s face. Chloe’s really having a rough season.

The hug between Clark and Lionel was interesting (very Godfather). I don’t think Clark trusts Lionel 100%, yet. Probably still a little mad about him forcing Lana to marry Lex even if it was to protect him in the end. I think he’s at about 95%. Wasn’t Lionel very poetic this episode? Most of his dialog seemed like he was reading poetry.

I think Clark went straight to the lab to recover the crystal as soon as Lionel told him about StarHawk.

So how does Lex just walk into a secure top-secret government facility unhindered? They even announced his arrival before they could fully cover up their experiment with the crystal. Must be hiring the same guards Lex uses for his mansion.

I think I discovered a superpower that Kara has but Clark doesn’t, in addition to flying. She can wrap any man around her finger. I think Lana’s had the same power for most of the series (at least from AlMiles perspective).

It looks like they’ve changed the superhearing special effect for this season. Both in Action and here, they now show a lighting change followed by a closeup on the ear.

Did anyone get the feeling that Chloe was looking for a support group instead of an interview with Lana? Nice call on the “right angle” Chloe. Did anyone buy Lana’s reason for not telling Clark? Work on it Lana.

I think Kara felt a little guilty about the airliner. Nice shove of Clark by Kara; not that Clark was hurt. Clark needs to work on his flying if he’s going to keep up with Kara.

Jimmy to Kara: “Feel free to rev your search engine anytime, unless your hacking into national security networks…which is exactly what your’e doing.”

I think Kara’s showing the advantage of a Kryptonian education. Computer skills must have been at the top of the list.

So the government agent knew that Kara would react to kryptonite when Lex hasn’t figured it out for 7 seasons. What a BDH (big dumb human). So Lex goes to a Senator to fire the government agent…not Martha?

Great Memoria references. Helen Slater looked terrific. I thought they used a little too much bright light for the flashbacks. You almost couldn’t see their faces. I loved that Kara thought that the Kents lived in the barn. They must have ultrasound on Krypton, too (Lara knew it was a boy). I wonder if Clark will be able to reform Brainiac. I’ll bet that Zor-El is the one that made him evil.

Apparently, the picture frame wasn’t the only thing that was spared from the meteor that hit the house. Everything looked the same as it does in all the other scenes from this episode.

I liked the crumpling of the lab door by Clark. Nice prop. Did the government agent’s dialog remind anyone of the Knox character’s dialog from LnC? Aliens are dangerous, blah, blah, blah.

Another parallel to Clark’s story with the Lara, Zor-El, and Jor-El triangle; with Lara as Lana, Zor-El as Lex, and Jor-El as Clark. Good shot Lionel. Nice to see the MB is back. Liked the super CPR.

That was a terrific picture of Annette O’Toole. Very touching how Clark got a picture of his birth mother.

Enjoyed the dialog between Lex and Lionel. Lex is finally realizing that Lionel is a lot closer to Clark than to him. And we also got another Memoria reference to Lex’s mother.

Lionel to Lex: “You can probably fool yourself, but not me. You could never fool me.”

Nice kiss between Jimmy and Kara. Jimmy does pretty well for himself. First, Chloe and now Kara.

Kara to Jimmy: “How about some more Chinese? I’m getting a hang of that whole chopstick thing.”

Jimmy to Chloe: “Kara’s from Minnesota. It’s not like she’s from another planet.”

I don’t think Clark was hiding the crystal from Kara because he doesn’t trust her. I think he did it because it contained his mom’s DNA and he wanted to protect it to preserve her. Plus it will really come in handy for a future episode.

Really looking forward to super Lana. I really liked the effect of her holding the windmill. I think her last line about taking the chance of losing Clark was just the feeling of empowerment not symbolic of any lack of love for Clark.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by smlvilleluva
i haven't been a huge fan of season 7 (i guess unlike most people)

You guess wrong. People are often confused by the unnecessary amount of whining on this board, but you only have to look at the episode scores and ratings to see how the show is doing this year.

[Naman is 1#]

8

[ginnyfan]

9/10 It was alright but it was so cool to see Krypton and Kara's memories...

[CallMeClark]

9/10.

Loved it. Smallville is seriously on a roll this season. I can't see any flops with the future episodes.

I especially liked the beginning flashback of Gandar. And I really enjoyed Kara's memory with Lara and Zor-El. One think that erked me was how Chloe and Jimmy were so friendly. They just broke up... Blah. I think Jimmy matches more with Kara anyway. Chloe could never give him all of her.

The actress playing Lara did an okay job. Can't wait to see next week.

The ending was a nice twist! I didn't expect Clark to have it. I thought Lex did.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

I liked it, it wasn't great, but it certainly kept thing moving in regards to storylines.
Had a nice twist st the end.
I am tad confused how before Kara came along, flying special effects were too expensive and she seem to be flying all over the place and twice on Sundays.

Intersting mention of the Kents at church service on the flash back, never really mentioned that before...

[trying2b]

Originally posted by Mello Penelo
Hated it. 5/10 Did I say that? I just like to get a rise out of people and be just the opposite of everyone else. To see if I can get some attention. I love attention. Oh BTW I really loved it. And if I didn't my weekly episode of Heidi will be on to make up for it.

Really? OK! :D

[redtee]

9/10 I really liked it, as much as i was entertained by Action this one was even better (despite Kara being in it). Actually LV is getting better - I need to remember to give newbies a break, recalling how the acting was in the first season of this show. She (Kara) is definitely improving. Great opening and cool blind side with the Clark having the crystal thing. I don't think it's just about his mum's dna though, and now that he's seen Zor-El's character hopefully he'll keep a hold of that caution.
Chloe - urgh...uncomfortable, hope she finds her feet soon, but kudos to her scene with Lana and the so not accepting the not telling clark thing.
Lionel - brilliant, but I wonder if he's pondering Clark's initial decision to tell him the Kara is his adoptive dad's relation rather than bio dad - obviously he finds that truth out quickly.
Poor Lex...for MR's sake I do hope he gets to whip some ass this season.
Lana - yep still on that evil path.....but still kinda in Clark's radius still with that heads up on Kara's whereabouts. Though Clark really should look into those "contacts" of hers.
Loved it...can't wait for next weeks!

[Chloe>All]

7/10

Solid episode. The flashback at the beginning seemed shoddily thrown together, but I can forgive that, I guess. Clark and Lionel as friends is very interesting, and I love a good Lex/Lionel encounter.

Don't know about Clark's actions at the end, though.

[superpal1]

Gave it a 7. The episode was good, but not great. helen slater was wonderful as Lara.

[stephanievaniersel]

Clark/Chloe:
When did whe return to the lets treat Chloe like crap stage ..
The way he said 'support for the meteor infected, THIS is what's so urgent?'
I was like Chloe, where's your stapler?
And Clark really needs to stop with the 'I have to tell Lana everything' stuff because,
that is so gonne come back and bite him in the ass.

But I am very happy Clark got to see his mom ..

Clark/Kara:
Love there scenes, actually I only like Kara in scenes where she is with Clark.
I dont know why that is, but she just annoys me when she is in a scene with someone else..
(and LV really cant act emotional, 'But I dont wanne go' I was lauging my ass of because that just sucked)

Lana/Chloe:
I dont know what it is but I just don't buy the Chlana friendship.
Wich is really weird sinds Kristen and Allison are really close friends in real life.
Maybe they need to stop acting and just be the friends they are.

Loved that Chloe saw that Lana wasn't telling the thruth and called her one it.
Cant wait to see next weeks show down.
And go Chloe, dont tell her anything about your powers.

Lex and Lionel:
Owke I love these guys in scenes togther, they really are great together!
And *squeel* Lex's 'I was just being a Luther'.

Kara/Jimmy:
Owke I admit it they are cute, but ..I dont wanne see it.
Clearly Kara uses Jimmy like Clark's using Chloe (google)
And I think Jimmy just really likes all the attention and thrust that Kara is giving him.
I think in the long run this relationship is just something Jimmy is using to forget about Chloe.
And if they turn Kara evil, she cant continue dating Jimmy.
Bacause come on, you cant be evil and be datting a guy like Jimmy Olsen.

Chloe:
I love you, just dump those sucky friends of yours and come hang out with me.
Chloe is really having a hard time, and it seems that Clark doesnt wanne see it or just doesnt have the time to support her right now.
Jimmy isnt helping either, who starts dating a new girl just after you broke up and trows it in the face of there ex. And Jimmy that wasnt a 'worry face', that was a 'what the ****' face,
who asks there ex how another girl is doing?

Anyway didnt really like the ep, very little chloe and thats always bad IMO.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by stephanievaniersel


Lex and Lionel:
Owke I love these guys in scenes togther, they really are great together!
And *squeel* Lex's 'I was just being a Luther'.

[/B]

Lex and Lionel are great together, they both give as good as they get.
The storyline between them is getting better and better, Lex asking Lionel if Clark was his son and Lionel typical response, just kicks int he groin after kicks in the groin.
Highlight of the episode for me.

[skylar]

I'll give it a 9 1\2 it was cool to see Clark expression when he saw his mom face in Kara dream. Kara knows now he father was evil so she can trust Clark more.

[Jack-El49]

I liked the episode very much - I gave it a 9 only because I'm hoping the best is yet to come. I think this has been an amazing season thus far.

[Super Maverick]

loved it. this season has been great so far!

[Jaded Wolf]

7/10. The episode was good but not as good as could be.

The Good:
1) Kara and Clark are back on track and the whole mess of her real intentions are sorted out. I'm glad that she came to her senses after reliving the memory Zor-El wiped from her.
2) Chloe finding out about Lana's business. We all know Chloe is highly suspicious and snoops out a story. She won't hold back on this one especially with Lana asking her not to tell Clark. I also love how Chloe pointed out Lana's hypocrisy about the whole keeping secrets thing. That's why I love Ms Sullivan.
3) Kara seducing the geek. There is hope for me yet. Seriously I like how she has adapted to Earth culture and knows that with the right moves and words she can use her looks to gain information she needs. That's called good ole fashioned resourcefulness.
4) Kara almost allowing a plane to ram right into her. Way to go daydreamer (or is nightdreamer since it was night???). I almost wanted them to show the pilots' reactions. "Was that a bird?"
5) Lara. Helen Slater is still pretty and she did a good job of playing Kal-El's mother. I liked the confrontation scene between her and Zor-El and her standing for her husband Jor-El.
6) Finally getting to see Krypton at the beginning. The writers are finally breaking their boundaries and showing more intergalactic Superman stuff.

The Bad:
1) Jimmy Olsen is a shallow character. He dumps Chloe knowing she is having some issues. Instead of working them with her he leaves her to go straight to Kara. No recovery time. No self time. Just BOOM to Kara. If I was Chloe I'd kick him in the nuts just because.
2) What is it with everyone in Smallville, KS, having computer hacking skills. Lex Luthor and Lionel Luthor is understandable. Chloe is understandable. But after around season 4 or 5 everyone and their dog's mom has computer hacking skills. Lois Lane, Lana Lang, and now Kara. C'mon already!!! How is Kara going to know how to hack into the government computers? How can she afford her cell phone for that matter as well on the meager earnings from the Talon???
3) The fact that Les Luthor can just mosey right into a top-secret government facility does not sit right with me as someone who works on a military base. Even though he is in the building why would the agents allow Lex into the lab? This is just nonsense.
4) It's understandable that Jor-El visited Earth for a scouting mission. I can buy that. However, I don't like that Lara was there as well and even though I can overlook that I really don't like that Kara just appears as well. I thought it was cheesy that she takes a polaroid of Kara and then slides it behind Martha's picture.
5) I especially thought is corny that it was Kara who named Kal-El. The whole dialogue of her saying "You should name him Kal-El so he can look at the stars and remember us" was lame. I had no idea what she was talking about.
6) So now Clark is going behind Kara's back and hiding the crystal from her. Clark must really be influenced by Lana now because that is completely wrong of his character. Plus Clark is showing sings of selfishness because he is keeping the crystal for himself solely because it has his mom's DNA. What is going on with this show???

All in all this episode was good but it just seems the last few episodes have been filled with unnecessary crap.

[Promise]

Smallville is back!! A season worth watching, keep it up writers and I am very impressed with Kara(LV). She fits right in. Its as if she was already on the show for years. Perfect Supergirl and charming.

The second best episode this season.

[Silent Kal]

You all loved it? Seriously?

Okay, I love this show, I have for years. But this episode was one of the most frustrating episodes since the Season We Do Not Mention.

The dialogue--probably the worst writing the show has seen. Wooden wooden wooden. It grated on me.

The inconsistencies abound. Kara follows Lara to Earth and is wearing--earth clothes? WHY???? Who fixes the Kent's door? NO ONE CARES. What does "Kal-El" have to do with sun or stars? NEVERMIND, VIEWERS, MOVE IT ALONG. The direct shot of K-Serum into Kara's veins SHOULD HAVE KILLED HER. It's taking kryptonite-effect inconsistencies to a whole new level.

Or the fact that the show uses convenient commercial breaks to get out of writing themselves in a corner in certain scenes. Lex asks, "Clark, why does the government think Kara's involved?" Clark looks worried--and we cut to commercial?!? How does he answer the question?????

It's lazy writing, and it frustrates me more than anything else. Especially when the episode could be freaking awesome.

The best part of the episode, the part that I dug most, was the Lex/Lionel scene. Those two work so well together. But all the other characters had bad dialogue or muddy motivations. Smallville has done better. It should do better.

And Clark stole the crystal and showed Lana, like a little boy starved for approval? Seriously?

4/10, and it hurts me to say it.

[bobowayney]

Ok gotta clear this up for the non-comic book fans/geeks out there (I AM a comic book geek) "Kal-El" is kryptonian for "Star Child" , the "El" surname meaning "Child", & "Kal" meaning "Star" this information was established as canon by DC Comics was back in the 50s - and I give this episode 8/10, it wasn't bad but I felt it was too easily resolved coulda been a two parter, but I was happy

[Promise]

Originally posted by svtwamedfan05


Besides the only triangle that matters to me is Clark, Lois, and Lex. Always and forever the way its suppose to be.

Didn't you get the message in last episode Action? This is there show. :D

Originally posted by Silent Kal
What does "Kal-El" have to do with sun or stars?


Actually, its part of the meaning of his name. Look it up. Didn't have time to give you a link.

[Silent Kal]

That's just it, though; there was no attempt to explain why. ONE line of dialogue could have addressed that.

"He'll just a child from the stars to these humans. That's it--name him "Kal-El." Star-child."

Bingo. Done. Locks it into the mythos, and still makes sense in the dialogue.

[Promise]

Originally posted by Silent Kal
That's just it, though; there was no attempt to explain why. ONE line of dialogue could have addressed that.

"He'll just a child from the stars to these humans. That's it--name him "Kal-El." Star-child."

Bingo. Done. Locks it into the mythos, and still makes sense in the dialogue.

LOL

[All about Clark]

I gave it a 9. It appeared to be new writers. Interesting choice in interactions. Probably learned more in this ep then any other ep over the last 2 seasons.

Would of liked to see how Clark got the crystal out of the case after speaking to Lionel.

I agree with someone that said Kara should have died sooner from the krypto-serum. And I really hated that Lionel had to save Clark and Kara.

But I still liked it very much and can forgive a couple of things.

[xaosthry]

It was actually a very good episode.
I have to admit...I am loving DarkLana. That is one bad ass b!tch. Admittedly find the goodie goodie Lana irritating as hell, but can't get enough of this new Lana. She has a firm grip on both Lex and Clarks balls, playing them both with expert precision. Its great.
Chloe keeps getting crapped on that sucks, but hoping it will all pay out in the end.
And Clark at the end really pissed me off, hiding that crystal from Kara. I hope she kicks his @ss a couple more times.

[coasterprincess]

Overall I was generally pleased with the episode. There were just a couple things that didn't sit well with me.

The Good
~Clark and MB...it's funny when they were going for the hug I was all "oh this is going to be an awkward hug" and it was...but I couldn't stop smiling. They dialog and general relationship at this point makes sense. Clark's open about most things, but wants to protect Kara. I'm looking forward to more scenes between the two of them.
~Kara....her best scenes are always with Clark, but LV's starting to hold her own in scenes with other characters. Side points to that guy that was the nerdy goverment lab person....I <3 nerds.
~Lara....I liked her and her interactions with Kara...if not various points of the memory. Plus it was nice to shed some light on the whole El family dysfunction.

The Bad
~The memory....let's see....where to start. (oh we need sub-points for this one :P)
~~The portal?...and Earth-to-Krypton portal....yeah that'd be convenient ...but then why would you stick your son on a spaceship....or not do some kind of evacuation before the planet blows up?
~~Kara's been to earth before? She wasn't overwhelmingly surprised at earth...I understand she forgot that day...but she must have made other pit stops if she was in Earth clothes and knew how to work a camera (although giving Clark a picture is a nice touch)
~DNA in a crystal...that's just creepy. I mean I could see the value in playing with it so Clark could in theory know what he's made of...but I'm worried where they might go with this (personally I'd rather Clark give it to Kara as a keepsake on her birthday or something once she's gotten less obsessive about it all)
~Lana...grrr....I still feel like she's just playing games. Playing house at the farm with Clark, playing super spy with the Luthors. I'm just sooo over it.
~Kara/Jimmy kiss....it just seems a little too soon for me. I don't want this to be a two season drag out....but after Kara's talk with Clark I thought she'd just want Jimmy to be her first real friend...not a bf

Overall I liked it a lot. Government conspiracy plus Luthor shadyness plus all my bonus points overshadow the bad so I'm going with an 8/10

[superman2001]

I thought the Episode, was Awesome, it was great to see Lara on the Kent Farm, and i really did like the scene where Clark, saw the Picture of Lara , My Favorite scene in the Episode is when Clark, saved Kara from the Agent, I can,t wait to see next week,s episode, it is going to be great, I can,t wait to find out how Clark, get his power,s back.

[FiReFTW]

Il give it 9/10 . and to those serius critics that give it like 4 and so you are entitled to your opinion but WTF do you seriusly wan't from this show , ur not happy with aynthing , no show is perfect in the way you wan't , no show.

[samwinchestermustdie]

i give it a 7/10. clark talking about the dna in the crystal was crap. what is he lex and going to clone someone. the episode was great but i still don't know what the main story of this season is. what the crystal? clana?

[teddybairs]

I thought is was a great ep. I really, really liked the opening with a full view of Krypton at war with itself, instead of the brief glimpse of a ship and some hands we had in Memoria. It's good they're willing to put a little more effort into the special effects to really bring this back to the mythos the further it goes.

Wasn't sure what to think of the look on Clark's face when he just stood there watching Kara take off into the sky. We all know he can fly and it's all in his head. I think he knows it too. When he jumped off the building and speed down to catch Lana in action, it kind of proved his whole fear of heights thing was pretty much dealt with. We know he's physically capable of it. So, it's all in his head and he's gotta get over it.

Thought Lara was great, as well as Zor-El. I was happy that they didn't draw out whether or not Zor-El was really a bad guy over several seasons like they did Jor-El (and Clark is still suspicious of him!).

Interesting to note that Brainiac was Jor-El's creation according to Lara. Wonder who got close enough to reprogram him?

Lara's visit to the Kent farm had to be about a year prior to the destruction of Krypton. Nine months minimum. If she was pregnant, she wasn't showing yet.

Also, what happened to Zor-El's wife? I don't remember her name from the comics, but Kara did have a mother too. What did she think of her husband's "passions". Also, wasn't Kara from Argo City? Not Kandor?

[Kalyxx]

Yes Yes Yes the last three episodes have been right on, but I did not get the BIG TWIST at the end. Was it that Clark had the crystal? If so, that was not a so big. He usually gets his hands on everything Kryptonian in the end.

The only thing that peaked my interest is when Lara talked about Jor El's BRANIC and how it could save them so are there two : one by ZOD and one by Jor' El.

And finally I 'm really interesed in knowing who is really behind the Government plan to investigate the spaceship and ET life.
The goverment is usually not that smart in science fiction.

[jaydee85]

I love Smallville but this episode, not so much.
It disappointed me because of the typical "movie of the week" quality of goodbye adoptive parents and hello new "real" mom and soon to be dad.
I can't believe Martha Kent would leave her own picture on the table for 21 years.
Or that Clark would hug Lionel---WTH he won't even hug Lana.
Or that Clark would even think of using DNA.
Any scene with Kara is unbelievable.
Loved the 2 Luthors together and Chloe and Lana together.
Other than those 2 scenes it seemed poorly thought out and totally forced.

[babyluthor]

I thought this was an ok episode. It started off a little slow, but the 2nd half picked up. I liked that we learned more of the back story about Krypton, Lara, and Zor El. I thought it was just ok because there seemed to be several inconsistencies/plot holes throughout the episode.

[Imzadia]

Originally posted by Ginx
9/10 Pretty good episode. I like that we find out a little more of the House of El past as it relates to Smallville.

It's also interesting that CK outsmarted Kara as far as getting ahead of her for the crystal. I'm shocked at that - CK's motives for finding the crystal though - sketchy.

I loved that Kara and CK really seemed to bond this episode. I hope we see more of the family time - it's a good thing.

There were a few wtf moments that I would have liked explained like the super-cpr - wouldn't that have ripped through Kara in her weakened state? And how did that picture survive the meteor showers? etc. But oh well... it's tv not perfect just entertainment ;)

Next week's looks good too.

;) Hi Ginx,
I'm Loving S7, too. I gave it a 9/10 as well. It seems that I felt the same way that you did about "Lara", And asked the same questions. Another one was how did Kara get her 'earth' wardrobe while 'following' Lara through the portal to earth? BUT, also like you said, "It's not meant to be perfect...only TV entertainment." Trying to put these pieces together still isn't as painful as dealing with 'Time Travel' so, I accept it as such and enjoy it just the same. If we try to rationalize it too much, we'll give ourselves a headache! :rotfl: Next week's episode does look like it'll be another fun one to watch. So far, IMHO, I think they're doing a great job keeping most of us enthralled.

[rundstedt2001]

I have been pretty harsh about this season 7 so far, and for good reason, but I kinda liked this episode!

MORE OF THIS PLEASE!

[vyperman7]

This episode was decent. But I felt like it could have been so much more if they had spent more time on the Kryptonian angle. I liked the tie in with Memoria. Nice continuity there of bringing up Sommerholt. Helen Slater did a great job as Lara. I almost didn't recognize her! Maybe it is because she is getting older, or because of the make-up department. But she looked different. It was very cool how they had the picture behind the Martha frame. The Kryptonite handcuffs were awesome by the way. One of the best uses of Kryptonite thus far on the show.

In typical Smallville fashion, another person finds out about Clark's secret only to be killed. Smallville is such a formulaic show. I said to myself as soon as the agent found out "He should be dead in about five minutes" and of course Lionel shows up to blow the guy away.. LOL

At least they are trying to keep Lana more interesting. She is so much more interesting as an evil, double agent, type of character then she ever was playing an innocent victim or a whiner when it came to Clark.

Does anyone else find it funny that they are doing a bettter job developing Kara in a handful of episodes, then they have with Clark over the whole course of the show? One reason I have grown to dislike Smallville is because the show stopped being about Clark a long time ago, and it started being about everything else but - relationship angst, guest superheroes, etc.. I just hope that they are able to get another season, because if its gets taken off the air, and they spent the last season focusing on Kara, and having Lex acting born again, that would seriously suck.

Clark doesn't have to fly. But could they at least have attempt to? For example, he looks up and sees Kara fly away when she escaped with a look on his face of "I wish I could do that". So why not show him in the barn in an episode trying to fly or at least hover? I know he won't fly. But hints towards it would be fantastic. Hell the best one they ever did was in the first season with Metamorphosis with him hovering above the bed, and the conversation with Johnathan right after "Floating?"

I would probably give this episode a 7/10 because it did not live up to its full potential.

[chloefan]

I was just about to comment on the Clark not flying but having to watch Kara do so until I saw the last paragraph of vyper's post above. I'm glad someone else noticed it. It is funny and sad at the same time. He looked so sad that all he could do was watch her fly away yet AGAIN!!

[trying2b]

It pissed me off too. I said dammit he needs to be able to fly and that was actually the first time that I really wanted him to fly on the show. He's 20 years old in Smallville's timeline and it's time. Or at least trying to jump real high or something. This is why I do not want Smallville to go beyond 7 seasons. Clark is going to 21 years old in Smallville's timeline and still running around. I mean they already broken so many canon's on this show and that's just not going to work for me.

What also gets me is how they broke canon on the way Krypton exploded. The red sun imploded and that's why Krypton exploded. Now AlMiles has it where the inhabitants had war and that exploded the planet??! Stupid, stupid idea!

That was the only part of the show that I did not like. The rest of it I loved. Any scene with Kara and Clark or Lionel and Lex makes this show worth watching. Kara is so hot it's hard not to like any of her scenes. And Clark well without him there is no show....period.

[rundstedt2001]

Originally posted by vyperman7


In typical Smallville fashion, another person finds out about Clark's secret only to be killed. Smallville is such a formulaic show. I said to myself as soon as the agent found out "He should be dead in about five minutes" and of course Lionel shows up to blow the guy away.. LOL

A

I totally agree with that.....you just sit there waiting and thinking:"when will he die or have some kind of memory erase"...
Its just so stupid!

But besides that, as I said, I kinda like this episode!

[STFanatic]

I wonder when they are going to have the big reveal that Lex is from Krypton.


/sarcasm (I hope)

[rundstedt2001]

Well, as I understand, no kryptonian has ever been bald of krypton crystals.....Lex has just been equipped with weak geens...

[STFanatic]

Well, it was the meteor storm that took away his hair. ;)

[trying2b]

Originally posted by rundstedt2001
weak geens...

you mean "genes".

[STFanatic]

I used to have a pair of green jeans.
:p

[TesubCalle]

Originally posted by teddybairs


Also, what happened to Zor-El's wife? I don't remember her name from the comics, but Kara did have a mother too. What did she think of her husband's "passions". Also, wasn't Kara from Argo City? Not Kandor?

I, too, was wondering if any mention would be made about Zor-El's wife (Allura or Alura in the comics, depending on who the writer happened to be at the time...)

If Zor was in love with Lara in the Smallville mythos, then I feel so sad for Kara's birth mother (whomever she may be). I hardly think the series writers will ever address this, since it doesn't appear to be all that important to the mythology at hand.

And yes, in the DCU Silver Age comics continuity, Kara was from Argo. It seems that that's gone out the window in the present DCU, which is still in the process of establishing Kara's character and origins, etc... (Looks like she's about to join the Teen Titans!! Whoa!)

We shan't go into detail about how crappily DC has handled the Supergirl character (in any incarnation) over the past 35 years.

We're just all hoping they do it right this time around. It's totally gravy that we Kara fans get to see her on Smallville, too.

[LionelLuthor]

It was alright.

[Welling_is_pretty]

Originally posted by TesubCalle
I, too, was wondering if any mention would be made about Zor-El's wife (Allura or Alura in the comics, depending on who the writer happened to be at the time...)
Yeah, her name is Allura or Alura. And I was surprised there was NO mention of her in this ep.

We shan't go into detail about how crappily DC has handled the Supergirl character (in any incarnation) over the past 35 years.

That would a rant in and of itself. As many fans say "she got her best moment when she died".
Though have you read 'Christmas with the superheroes #2', TesubCalle? The last story in there is a Deadman story that guest stars Kara and it is possibly the best Kara appearance ever! I love it.

BTW, love, love, love your avi!

Forgot to add my opinion of Lara here. I liked it, especially the Kara and Lara stuff (Helen Slater rocks! I've always liked her). There were some slow points and a few that made me want to switch channels (sorry, evil!Lana is sooooooooo boring) but on the whole I enjoyed it.

And that was one heckuva last scene!

[TesubCalle]

Originally posted by Welling_is_pretty
Yeah, her name is Allura or Alura. And I was surprised there was NO mention of her in this ep.


That would a rant in and of itself. As many fans say "she got her best moment when she died".
Though have you read 'Christmas with the superheroes #2', [b]TesubCalle? The last story in there is a Deadman story that guest stars Kara and it is possibly the best Kara appearance ever! I love it.

BTW, love, love, love your avi!

Forgot to add my opinion of Lara here. I liked it, especially the Kara and Lara stuff (Helen Slater rocks! I've always liked her). There were some slow points and a few that made me want to switch channels (sorry, evil!Lana is sooooooooo boring) but on the whole I enjoyed it.

And that was one heckuva last scene!

WiP: Why, yes, I have read that Christmas story with Deadman. Rather poignant, and very fitting. Just wish TPTB would have allowed the SA Kara to have stayed in the present DCU with that PAD story arc. But I guess she had to return to her own time to fulfil her 'destiny' battling the Anti-Monitor lest the whole universe come undone. But we won't argue comic-book logic here.

Thanks for the avi compliment. (I happen to like it, too :D)

[STFanatic]

I would love a "Dead Man" series.
He was along my most favorite comics.

[Sweetie]

I gave it a 7...The good stuff: Lex,Lionel and Kara.The bad stuff:when they mess with the mytho,it's usually bad news.I was so disaspointed.They had the iconic actress who portrayed Supergirl,all that they could think is another boring love triangle?Please enough all ready:rolleyes:

Now,Clark is thinking about cloning his mother.What the hell is going on???He is just as bad as Lex just by thinking about it.Come on...who is he really?C.K or is Clark only dreaming about this stupid stuff since the beginning?I'm really hoping for the second choice actually.That would explain alot :\

[Joekur]

The Good
Clark and Kara scenes... I love it any time LV says "Clark" Makes me wish my name was "Clark" her accent owns me there.
The Clark-Kara resolution - nice

The Bad
Kara Kissing Jimmie - Why? - 'cuz it wasn't ME! hehe.. I actually thought that scene was great...

The "Aww that Sucks!" moment...
POOR Chloe! My Goodness is she getting Dumped on! Every time the poor girl turns around, she's getting dumped on, and probably becasue she's doing, or trying to do, the right thing. I'll give you she's been a BIT of a hypocryte in keeping her gift a secret (after preaching to Clark) - but maybe it's a "Gee, I see how he feels" kind of thing (in which case, she should share that with him) the breakup from Jimmie killed me... My heart bled for her (What a GREAT actress!) - then - BaddaBingBaddaBoom - he's starting a relationship with Kara... like, what, 10 minutes later - c'mon guy, not that I blame ya (Kara's Hot, and nice, and sweet, and smart, and, well, evertyhing) but how 'bout givin' Chloe a bit of break there... In his defense though, he did sorta try to dodge the question when Chloe asked him to lunch... So I'm not too mad at him... And of course, I'm generally pleased, well, 'cuz now Chloe's available and can start going out with ME! MWWAHAHAA!

in general, a solid 8. it would have been more, but some stretches - like "Let's name him Kal-El" w/o any real explanation - like they just stuck it in there... And an ultra-secure-top-secret facility that rivals Grand Central in DC for how many people stroll through it... I think EVERYONE showed up! Might as well have a cast party there... maybe name it "Talon II" good grief! I totally get Kara and Clark getting in (they're super) - but Lex... ehhh... even as a guest It's a stretch... Then Lional (LOVE the MB BTW) just shows up, right place, right time.

On the Lional shooting the guy - I guess he had to - this guy had to die, and well, Clark isn't going to do it... Lional, however, has no problems pumpin' the guy full of lead. notice he didn't have any debate about it, no angst, just "BANG!" Done! no remorse afterwards, no soul searching, just another blip on the radar... the only drawback seems to be, that now he's gotta reload! Great MB stuff there! While I know he'll probably eventually go, I hope JG/MB stay on for a very long time - he adds SO much depth!

[oldskooldcfan04]

I gave it a nine. I really liked it, but the CK cloning his mom isn't very CK and Chloe got the wrong end of the stick yet again. Poor kid. Thats why it didn't get a ten.

[Joekur]

oh! on flying... totally agree with what some are saying, kinda stink's he's not even TRYING... that would make some great fun - maybe having Kara trying to give lessons (like Clark gave her on super-hearing) That'd be nice...

I'm really diggin having Kara around (not just 'cuz I have a huge crush on her (and Lois and Chloe), but becasue Clark's needed someone around who understands him - from his home world, that isn't activly trying to kill him...

If they'd let Clark fly in Season 8, they could fly together - like they run together... he deserves that!

But I can't help wonder - obviously flying for Clark on SmallVille is a metephore for his growing up - his right of passage... if they do it too soon, there's no room left to grow... I get that... just wish it weren't so... ya know? it'd be fun to have him and Kara flying around together... but I understand there's a great-good to be served here...

[Xanderman]

I was stuck between 6 and 7 for this one, but I settled on 6. Nothing terribly special about this one.

Verdict:
6/10 - forgettable

[Yankeefan]

every episode is great, i loved when they showed karas feet

[coco#1]

this season has really been awesome.i gave this a 9. imo the weakest episode was the 3rd one. (Fierce? the one with the sweet corn paegent)this season ranks right up there with the first 3, although i really love every season.this is one of my 3 favorite all time shows right next to The Shield and the Sopranos.cant get enough, i just hope the writers strike gets resolved soon.

[KansasKitty]

I liked the episode however I am disappointed in Helen Slater as Lara. She does not appear to have any passion in her portrayal of the wife of Jor-El and the mother or Kal-El. I cannot see why this character would be the love of Jor-El's life after falling for Lana's great Aunt back on Earth in the 60's. Ms. Slater was not the best choice for this role. I thought her portayal flat and uninteresting. I was hoping for much more for the encounter between Clark and his birth mother.

[Mr.]

kansas kitty the mistake u made, you hoped
"I was hoping for much more for the encounter between Clark and his birth mother."
you see, i stopped hoping along time ago

this might help:
"hope for the best EXPECT the worst!!"

[Imzadia]

Originally posted by KansasKitty
I liked the episode however I am disappointed in Helen Slater as Lara. She does not appear to have any passion in her portrayal of the wife of Jor-El and the mother or Kal-El. I cannot see why this character would be the love of Jor-El's life after falling for Lana's great Aunt back on Earth in the 60's. Ms. Slater was not the best choice for this role. I thought her portayal flat and uninteresting. I was hoping for much more for the encounter between Clark and his birth mother.

:rolleyes: Well, according to Jor-El in the FOS, Clark overflows with too much Human emotion. So, it would seem 'Normal' for Lara of Krypton, an adult who's only known what it is to be Kryptonian her whole life, would not display emotions in the same way we do here on earth. Yes, Clark was raised here and he's still maturing, so he's emotionally an Earthling, physically a Kryptonian. :p Respecting that, I would think that Lara was a bit emotional for a 'Kryptonian'.

;) Lara seemed to be the wise mother who planned her son's escape from destruction alongside her husband. She was emotional enough to make the journey to Earth via the 'last' portal just to make sure she would be making the right choice to place her child in the care of the Kents. :)

:o When Jor-El visited Earth, he was very young, probably Clark's age, and the visit was supposed to be a 'Learning Experience' for Jor-El ordered by his father. It was meant to help him learn 'Humility'. I think that's what I remember his saying from the episode. So, Jor-El would not have as yet been Betrothed to Lara. Lana's Aunt Louise gave him an important 'experience' that was most likely quite different from anything he would've experienced on Krypton. :)

[smvillian]

Originally posted by KansasKitty
I liked the episode however I am disappointed in Helen Slater as Lara. She does not appear to have any passion in her portrayal of the wife of Jor-El and the mother or Kal-El. I cannot see why this character would be the love of Jor-El's life after falling for Lana's great Aunt back on Earth in the 60's. Ms. Slater was not the best choice for this role. I thought her portayal flat and uninteresting. I was hoping for much more for the encounter between Clark and his birth mother.

I totally agree^^. I personally hoped that there would be more emotions between the mother and her lost child. Lara, however, didn't seem to be missing her son, nor she showed her feelings enough. There was like a natural meeting, nothing special. That's why I'm disappointed.

[faith_may]

It was a really good episode, it was a good episode for Kara, it was cool to see her pass and of course the one of Lara too

[Mr. T]

It was good to see Helen back in action as Lara. She looked wonderful. IDC what anyone says about the 1984 Supergirl, that was a great movie.

[Nimkong]

It was a good episode.Liked how it mentioned lara and zor-el.But the plot was boring