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MrZeppo
10-18-2007, 08:33 PM
I loved Clark's scene with Chloe as he was trying to talk her out of going for the surgery.

The best part was that sad look on his face when he realized she'd forget him. Aww, the Chlark moments are always so cute.

thehenry89
10-18-2007, 08:34 PM
That was cute. :) he kinda reminded me of a little kid when he said that.

xaosthry
10-18-2007, 08:35 PM
I found it sad when she told Clark if he wanted to save her, he needed to let her go.

Minela
10-18-2007, 08:36 PM
I thought this was a foreshadowing moment in the Chlark relationship. Chloe tells him that if he wants to save her, he'll have to let her go. She will never have a life on her own as long as he is still tied to her apron strings, so to say. He was like a helpless puppy, begging her not to leave him to his own devices.

I loved how she told him that she, a mere mortal, also has important things to do and that he should investigate by himself for once.

uhhuhhim
10-18-2007, 08:40 PM
I liked it too, but it really made no sense because she's not the only one that knows now, which begs the question: Why does he care if she cares about him when he's with Lana? It's almost like he enjoys the fact that he knows she's still got feelings for him somewhere. That's the only reason he even said it.

LoveHurts38
10-18-2007, 08:42 PM
I saw more emotion in this episode with Chloe more than lana ...Are Lana and Clark togather already? missed last week, they seemed so distant ...

superspider02
10-18-2007, 08:42 PM
i love there scenes and it was a cute and sad moment.

Krypton935
10-18-2007, 08:42 PM
That was so cute! I loved that moment It was so sweet!

Hey xaosthry what's your avatar?

xaosthry
10-18-2007, 08:47 PM
Seriously thinking myself that Clana is a doomed Titanic, and they heavily foreshadowed Chlark.
The school girl crush line, Clark getting weepy with losing Chloe, and Clark had NO CLUE when Chloe told him to figure it out himself.

Oh, that's Gabrielle from Xena-- thats my girl.

Poyntz
10-18-2007, 08:50 PM
I Loved she told him off. He had it coming i think. Kind of slapped him in the face and realized.. "wait a minute... everything doesnt centre around me and maybe something is wrong in chloes life"

MrZeppo
10-18-2007, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by uhhuhhim
I liked it too, but it really made no sense because she's not the only one that knows now, which begs the question: Why does he care if she cares about him when he's with Lana? It's almost like he enjoys the fact that he knows she's still got feelings for him somewhere. That's the only reason he even said it.

Because she's his best friend. Those expierences, those memories? That's what makes Chloe who she is. If she lost all that, it could be hard for them to reconnect, if even connect at all. I don't think he enjoys knowing she has feelings, but he enjoys knowing her and being her friend and having a close friendship with her. She wouldn't be the same Chloe without the memories.

Minela
10-18-2007, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by MrZeppo
Because she's his best friend. Those expierences, those memories? That's what makes Chloe who she is. If she lost all that, it could be hard for them to reconnect, if even connect at all. I don't think he enjoys knowing she has feelings, but he enjoys knowing her and being her friend and having a close friendship with her. She wouldn't be the same Chloe without the memories.

I totally agree with you.

myankskent
10-18-2007, 09:10 PM
I have to say that I thought that it was a nice touch to tell her that she will forget him twice. The first time, IMO, Clark is referring to himself in general and the second time he says it, I think that he is referring to the fact that she will forget about his secret, which would mean that he can't come to her anymore for advice expecting her to understand.

AndiGirl
10-18-2007, 09:20 PM
It was very sweet...Chloe obviously means a lot to Clark. I agree with someone else...he is just worried they will lose that relationship they've built over the past 6 years. They have always been there for eachother..she knows his secrets, and vise versa. If she lost those memories she would have lost Chlark...essentially.

uhhuhhim
10-18-2007, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by MrZeppo
Because she's his best friend. Those expierences, those memories? That's what makes Chloe who she is. If she lost all that, it could be hard for them to reconnect, if even connect at all. I don't think he enjoys knowing she has feelings, but he enjoys knowing her and being her friend and having a close friendship with her. She wouldn't be the same Chloe without the memories.

I'm on your side. I'm a Chlark fan. I just wish they would stop tormenting Chloe like this...I hope she gets her shot this season before Lois swoops in for Season 8.

xaosthry
10-18-2007, 09:22 PM
Hopefully, this will make him begin to appreciate her more, maybe even begin to reconsider his feeling for her???

Ilovebeinglost
10-18-2007, 09:33 PM
Yes one of the best moments in this episode. Love and passion for your best friend

Alexander III
10-18-2007, 09:34 PM
CHLARK IS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!

uhhuhhim
10-18-2007, 09:40 PM
^^^ I hope so. :D

Runestone
10-18-2007, 09:41 PM
Maybe he's FINALLY appreciating everything she's done for him!

Jules26
10-18-2007, 09:49 PM
Clark: "You're gonna forget me"?
Chloe: " Yeah pretty much"

That would have been funny.

meggy
10-18-2007, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Jules26
Clark: "You're gonna forget me"?
Chloe: " Yeah pretty much"

That would have been funny.


haaa!!

but yes, it was a very honest response from Clark. Seriously, if you have a close friend for years and years, to loose all the memories, experiences and such, is just not the same.

adromidon
10-18-2007, 10:27 PM
I think that if there was a way for Chloe to forget the bad things and remember the good (I.E Clark) she would have been happy.

Even if she had her memories erased however from what I gather they could be retrieved and the process reversed because of the way she lost them.

jazel
10-18-2007, 10:33 PM
seems Chloe was okay about forgetting him, I'm really surprised by Chloe's take on her meteor power.
always telling CK what a wonder he is, and praising the things he could do. wish she could see that about herself.

adromidon
10-18-2007, 10:38 PM
Yeah that was annoying

Superbeard
10-18-2007, 10:51 PM
Made me think of a little kid too. That she'd betrayed his trust and was going away.

Khyla
10-18-2007, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by MrZeppo
Because she's his best friend. Those experiences, those memories? That's what makes Chloe who she is. If she lost all that, it could be hard for them to reconnect, if even connect at all. I ... think he enjoys knowing her and being her friend and having a close friendship with her. She wouldn't be the same Chloe without the memories.

Agree! and i said a lot more about this in the "Chlark!!!" in #7-4 "Cure thread. :)

LoisL
10-19-2007, 12:02 AM
Really interesting scene. While I know many Chlarkers were disappointed by S6 (no kiss, lol, or follow up to Vessel), as a non-Chlarker I was totally startled and even mildly alarmed :p though not unmoved by the growing depth to the Chlark friendship last season. Clark's appreciation for his best friend/sidekick just kept growing and growing and growing.

I have to agree with whoever said there was more loving passion in this one scene than any of the Clana ones so far but I think this may be part of the theme of loyal friendship vs. angsty romance. After all, one of Clark's first thoughts upon Clana reunion, was a happy anticipation for Chloe's happiness.

My favorite line was Chloe's Mount Olympus one to Clark; I love Clark and don't think he's arrogant but the guy has got to learn and the girl finallllllllly turned down Chloogle duty.

SmallvilleMan
10-19-2007, 12:05 AM
I have to agree with whoever said there was more loving passion in this one scene than any of the Clana ones so far but I think this may be part of the theme of loyal friendship vs. angsty romance. After all, one of Clark's first thoughts upon Clana reunion, was a happy anticipation for Chloe's happiness.

No crap it had more emotion than any Clana scene. Which to me shows horrible writing on the writer's part or a show of more caring about the chlark friendship than their mine relationship. Quite strange.

TampaVille
10-19-2007, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by uhhuhhim
I liked it too, but it really made no sense because she's not the only one that knows now, which begs the question: Why does he care if she cares about him when he's with Lana? It's almost like he enjoys the fact that he knows she's still got feelings for him somewhere. That's the only reason he even said it.

He cares because she is his friend! Arguably his best friend (I know, I know, technically Pete is supposed to hold that title). It's not like a guy gets a girlfriend and then is supposed to stop caring if any of his other friends even know who he is!

LoisL
10-19-2007, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by TampaVille
He cares because she is his friend! Arguably his best friend (I know, I know, technically Pete is supposed to hold that title). It's not like a guy gets a girlfriend and then is supposed to stop caring if any of his other friends even know who he is!

Lol, I don't think anyone can dispute that on SV Chloe IS his best friend. On this show Pete never lived up to his destiny, lol. (thinking also of comic canon Pete/Lana marraige)

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
No crap it had more emotion than any Clana scene. Which to me shows horrible writing on the writer's part or a show of more caring about the chlark friendship than their mine relationship. Quite strange.

It's especially weird because it's a first.

MsSullivan
10-19-2007, 12:15 AM
It was lovely. Clark as we've seen in Labyrinth/Bizzaro and now Cure cannot see his life without Chloe ♥

nana3
10-19-2007, 12:23 AM
I think it stunned Clark that Chloe would even think about going to the extreme of tampering with her brain. Up until now Clark has felt Chloe will always be there for him, no matter what. It is a shocker for him that she is pulling away and keeping a piece of herself separate from Clark. IMO she is putting up walls around herself to protect herself and the people she cares the most about. I am really enjoying her reaction to what she is going thru.
I don't think she has changed that much, but she is just building barriers. Plus everything has come at her so fast she doesn't know what will happen next.

adromidon
10-19-2007, 12:30 AM
well luckily she did not have her memory wiped so we have more Chlark chances :)

LoisL
10-19-2007, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by MsSullivan
It was lovely. Clark as we've seen in Labyrinth/Bizzaro and now Cure cannot see his life without Chloe ♥

Yeah. That surprises me a little but I totally agree that the show is showing this. (eek, awkward word choice) Where the writers intend to go with Chlark and Clana and every relationship on the show remains mysterious and confusing.

ginnyfan
10-19-2007, 06:25 AM
This moment gave me goosebumps. Oh it was good.

AndiGirl
10-19-2007, 09:18 AM
I can understand why Chloe wanted the surgery though...It's not the same as when she tells Clark he should embrace her powers. I think at this point, she afraid her powers will kill her. So when she says she wants a shot at a normal life...I think she means at a life at all. So...I really cant blame her that she went a little slap happy when she saw a chance to get rid of her power.

I liked the scene with Clark a lot....it was very sweet. But the more i thought about it....it was a bit selfish on his part. Chloe is scared to death of dying....and all Clark can say is, "you will forget me." Cause.....yes Clark, this is about you too??? haha. I don't know...that bothers me a bit...I agree with some other ppl, he sounds like a 5 year old whining. But....all of that aside...it does show how much Chloe means to him...so yay! :)

Joelito
10-19-2007, 09:21 AM
I like this "chlark" moment...Is one of those moments that you realize who your friends are.

kal-el_Girl
10-19-2007, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by uhhuhhim
It's almost like he enjoys the fact that he knows she's still got feelings for him somewhere. That's the only reason he even said it.
somehow I think you're right! that's very sad that clark would enjoy chloe's eternal love, and if she forgets well who's going to boost his ego now?
Lois? No
Lana? Not in a million years

redtee
10-19-2007, 09:51 AM
It was Clark's best line (even topped the "it makes me sick.." line to Lex)

it was like he listed all the things she was gonna forget - "...friends, family me" then pause as that sunk in....the look on his face as he repeated it...
"You're gonna forget me"

Awwwwww..........

Well that plus the Chlimmy break up and the serious lack of Lana chemistry (they had the perfect opportunity there for the break up - it'd just be like Clark to end it as he realises he's just gonna havta watch Lana grow old and die)
And what with Chloe being immortal and all (I don't know how she sees it otherwise)....all signs pointing to a great Chlark season 7 and 8 opportunity!
:)

adromidon
10-19-2007, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by AndiGirl
I can understand why Chloe wanted the surgery though...It's not the same as when she tells Clark he should embrace her powers. I think at this point, she afraid her powers will kill her. So when she says she wants a shot at a normal life...I think she means at a life at all. So...I really cant blame her that she went a little slap happy when she saw a chance to get rid of her power.

I liked the scene with Clark a lot....it was very sweet. But the more i thought about it....it was a bit selfish on his part. Chloe is scared to death of dying....and all Clark can say is, "you will forget me." Cause.....yes Clark, this is about you too??? haha. I don't know...that bothers me a bit...I agree with some other ppl, he sounds like a 5 year old whining. But....all of that aside...it does show how much Chloe means to him...so yay! :)
I think you missed his point of view. I was assumed he was originaly thinking selfishly but you have to understand from a guys point of view weather the friend is a guy or a girl if you have a best friend and they are telling you they are going to willingly do something that could erase every memory of you that hits you hard real hard.

I had a friend growing up that was in an accident and when they recovered they remembered nothing their family, friends,nothing. So I know how hard it would be to have a friend willing submit to something of this magnitude.

Dor el
10-19-2007, 10:17 AM
Got my rose colored glasses on, but I did not get the impression that Clark was being whiny or selfish or self centered. I thought that was the best scene in the whole episode. It showed Chloe's desperation to return to what she thought was her normal life. Fear that she could lose her life. Realization that she was willing to pay a very big price to live. Even if it meant giving up Clark. And, realization for both Chloe and Clark that their relationship was not the most important thing in her life. I think this realization shocked and maybe scared them both.

This scene also showed how deeply Clark cares about Chloe, and I think it also showed how much he cares for Chloe and if Chloe proceeded with the surgery, the Chloe he knew and loved (way different love than his Lana love) would cease to exist. Even if Chloe regained her memory by people telling her about her life, she will have forgotten what it felt like to live her life and actually living one's life makes it real. I suspect that Clark, somewhere down deep, did think of how her memory loss would affect him. How could he not? But, I did not think for one minute that that was he sole purpose in dissuading her. Either TW and KK are having really bad acting scenes together, or Clark and Lana are experiencing a severe strain in their relationship. It appears that Clark feels a tighter bond with Chloe than with Lana. Not saying it is a romantic feeling on his part, but it is sure one heck of a friendship. Not sure Clark and Lana ever had that deep of a friendship. And I do not think that blueberry pancakes will fill the void.

Plus, I think Clark knew that Chloe could never be happy not being Chloe. And this surgery would result in her not being who she is. And, I think Clark feared for Chloe's life as well.

So I think Clark was doing the right thing for the right reason.

adromidon
10-19-2007, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by kal-el_Girl
somehow I think you're right! that's very sad that clark would enjoy chloe's eternal love, and if she forgets well who's going to boost his ego now?
Lois? No
Lana? Not in a million years Again you are not giving him enough credit

he is not allways thinking about him in that scene I believe he is genualy concerned that his best friend is not going to remember him

Dustmite
10-19-2007, 10:28 AM
This was a lovely scene. Clark's expression, his words, the way he said them.....just perfect. He was really scared in that moment and it showed. And it also goes to show just how terrified Chloe must be to even contemplate going through the procedure. One of my favourite scenes from the episode.

Dor el
10-19-2007, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Dustmite
This was a lovely scene. Clark's expression, his words, the way he said them.....just perfect. He was really scared in that moment and it showed. And it also goes to show just how terrified Chloe must be to even contemplate going through the procedure. One of my favourite scenes from the episode.

Agreed.

miks
10-19-2007, 10:46 AM
this was my favorite scene because it had so much chemistry and beautiful acting! Clark and Chloe share an amazing bond of love and friendship and it was expressed so well in this scene, it was written all over their faces, the long gazes, Clark saying you're going to forget me twice, to me was him saying you're going to forget me as in him, her friends, family, and then the second time actually realizing oh my God you're going to forget me! That was soo moving, it shows just how much he loves his Chloe. And Clark and Lana scenes are just awkward to watch...and I don't think it's because of TW and KK, I think it's because Clark and Lana have a horrible relationship, I mean you don't see TW acting that way with AM!!

chlo-el
10-19-2007, 11:35 AM
I love this scene. It played out so beautiful. I am so glad they pointed this memory loss issue out. And if you think about it wouldn't Chloe be better off without those memories? Sure it is soooo sad to think about it and clearly Clark saddened about the thought. But Chloe has been through so much and keeping clark's secret is hard for her. She seems to have to put up with a lot and it's difficult to have a healthy relationship w/ Jimmy knowing and protecting Clark's secret. So not only would this procedure take Chloe's secret but also Clark's secret that had also gotten in her way of being honest with Jimmy.

I am not saying that she should but I could see how that would be tempting to take all of the pressure off.

kal-el_Girl
10-19-2007, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by adromidon
Again you are not giving him enough credit

he is not allways thinking about him in that scene I believe he is genualy concerned that his best friend is not going to remember him
May I say that I take back what I said and agree w/ you... yesterday was a long day and watched the eppy around 12 am SO now that I think about it, that scene was beautiful and clark was truly sad and for a second he imagined his life W/O Chloe. When friendships end for one reason or another is always sad and it leaves you a hole in your heart, having said so, Clark's face said it ALL, he was in pain, he's heart is not made of steel.
:(

Iluvgreen
10-19-2007, 12:04 PM
Awww, I feeled so bad for him.

adromidon
10-19-2007, 12:09 PM
well lets remember that Chloe did not lose her memory but Clark also got a glimse in that episode what it was going to be like to love a mortal only to have realized he will outlive everyone he ever loves.

He is not like Knox in the sense that he will eventually die but he ages much much slower then humans

xaosthry
10-19-2007, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by adromidon
well lets remember that Chloe did not lose her memory but Clark also got a glimse in that episode what it was going to be like to love a mortal only to have realized he will outlive everyone he ever loves.

He is not like Knox in the sense that he will eventually die but he ages much much slower then humans

Indeed. I feel that after all Clark has been though in cure, he is going to reconsider all his relationships in live.
Seeing what the pain of losing loved ones will do, and finally realizing that Chloe does have her own problems that done revolve around him. Some reevaluating of his priorities is what he needs to be doing right now.

D.M.A.
10-19-2007, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by chlo-el
I love this scene. It played out so beautiful. I am so glad they pointed this memory loss issue out. And if you think about it wouldn't Chloe be better off without those memories? Sure it is soooo sad to think about it and clearly Clark saddened about the thought. But Chloe has been through so much and keeping clark's secret is hard for her. She seems to have to put up with a lot and it's difficult to have a healthy relationship w/ Jimmy knowing and protecting Clark's secret. So not only would this procedure take Chloe's secret but also Clark's secret that had also gotten in her way of being honest with Jimmy.

I am not saying that she should but I could see how that would be tempting to take all of the pressure off.
I would agree to this if it was about jimmy,but imo chloe wasnt doin this to have a fresh start wit jimmy.She was doin this more so cause she was scared,she even tells clark who's to say she wont stay dead next time.

That alone scares her enough to risk losin clark,who I dont think she truly wanted to forget.But wit her fear she felt she had a better chance this way,jimmy I think was an afterthought.

She cares for him yes,but like she told clark ppl can fill her in on things later(thats what the note was for).Clark took it hard cause it meant she'd forget everythin they've been thru,and I can understand his reasons.

But I understand her's as well,when u dont kno when ur power can be triggered or if u'll survive it can be scary.Her reaction was safety first,friends/luv ones last.I dont think she was tempted to forget clark and start over wit jimmy tho,but definitely a great scene last night

operadiva
10-19-2007, 01:34 PM
I am not surprised that Chloe and Clark's scenes are always more entertaining..They seem to have a great connection...Whether it is a foreshadowing of them getting together who knows.. They are best friends..and sometimes seeing them in a scene you forget that they are just friends... they together act like lovers..at times...There is more chemistry between them than ever this season...The spark between Clark and Lana has been sucked Dry...I am not surprised..i recently viewed AM website and she talked about how one time during a scene she needed to cry and she couldn't..So she called Tom to her..told him to hold her hands..and he did ..and she said that did it..she started to ball her eyes out...Hummm...If only the writers would catch on realize...Chloe and Clark do belong together..

flying_girl
10-19-2007, 02:07 PM
chloe and clark cant be together because superman was never with chloe. there is only so much that the writers can change without messing up what clark kent becomes. as for how clark interacts with lana, i think he realizes that shes not telling him the truth and that there is a trust issue between them. he is willing to except what she said for now but part of him doesn't believe her so he is more reserved around her.

operadiva
10-19-2007, 02:17 PM
He never was with lana either.and Clark did not meet Lois lane until later on...So.it is just an excuse..that does not even make sense anymore..

And as the writers say this is Smallville o anything can happen

flying_girl
10-19-2007, 03:11 PM
thats not true, from the superman lore i know, lana lang was clark kent's high school sweetheart.

operadiva
10-19-2007, 03:22 PM
Only a foot not not even worthy of a long mention..that is it...GO back and read the comics

And Smallville isn't Superman that i what we have been told over and over so any thing goes really..

TheSupaMan
10-19-2007, 03:37 PM
I think some of you are making too much out of it. Clark really cares about Chloe. It's only natural that he would say something like that. It isn't "foreshadowing" anything IMO.

operadiva
10-19-2007, 03:48 PM
Nope it is interesting that they would write that kind of dialog...and have a scene between Clark and Chloe..If they are only best friends and are to remain such...

Dor el
10-19-2007, 03:53 PM
They may never be lovers, but that doesn't have to stop them from consoling each other when they each find themselves alone. A little tearfest over a venti hot chocolate might be refreshing to see.

TampaVille
10-19-2007, 03:56 PM
dor el and adromidon, I agree with your interpretations completely. Don't even have anything to add to that argument. Well done.

Originally posted by operadiva
Nope it is interesting that they would write that kind of dialog...and have a scene between Clark and Chloe..If they are only best friends and are to remain such...

You've never had a deep, emotional, meaningful conversation with somebody in whom you were not romantically interested?

TheSupaMan
10-19-2007, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by operadiva
Nope it is interesting that they would write that kind of dialog...and have a scene between Clark and Chloe..If they are only best friends and are to remain such...

If you've known someone since, what was it, 2nd or 3rd Grade? And they were your best friend and decided to go get a surgery you've never heard of, that could cause them to lose all of their memory, including that of you, what would you say?

TampaVille
10-19-2007, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by kal-el_Girl
somehow I think you're right! that's very sad that clark would enjoy chloe's eternal love, and if she forgets well who's going to boost his ego now?

I was all for Chlark a year or two back myself, but I am afraid you're reading too much into things at this point. Particularly "chloe's eternal love." That is really some wishful thinking :). Every indication we have from the show is that Chloe is firmly over Clark.

Originally posted by redtee

And what with Chloe being immortal and all (I don't know how she sees it otherwise)....all signs pointing to a great Chlark season 7 and 8 opportunity!
:)

Chloe being immortal? Is this some spoiler (which therefore should not be on this part of the forum, so non-spoiler-readers like myself don't have to stumble across it), or am I seriously missing some piece of your argument, lol?

chlo-el
10-19-2007, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
I would agree to this if it was about jimmy,but imo chloe wasnt doin this to have a fresh start wit jimmy.She was doin this more so cause she was scared,she even tells clark who's to say she wont stay dead next time.

That alone scares her enough to risk losin clark,who I dont think she truly wanted to forget.But wit her fear she felt she had a better chance this way,jimmy I think was an afterthought.

She cares for him yes,but like she told clark ppl can fill her in on things later(thats what the note was for).Clark took it hard cause it meant she'd forget everythin they've been thru,and I can understand his reasons.

But I understand her's as well,when u dont kno when ur power can be triggered or if u'll survive it can be scary.Her reaction was safety first,friends/luv ones last.I dont think she was tempted to forget clark and start over wit jimmy tho,but definitely a great scene last night

Well I do think she was terrified that her life was in danger. But I don't think Jimmy was just an after thought because she did write to Jimmy if I don't remeber you remind me why we belong together. He was a factor and her fear of not living.

Also I think until this ep we've seen Chloe always think of Clark first and not herself and here we actually see her turning Clark down. This seen was really powerful becuase she was thinking of perserving her self before thinking of how it could effect Clark.

RedKRules
10-19-2007, 04:17 PM
That scene was priceless ... brillant and sad at the same time ....:(

All about Clark
10-19-2007, 05:45 PM
Yes it was an amazing scene and it reflects the theme they are showing us that Clark will need to stand alone because he will outlive everyone he knows. That Chloe would rather forget him then to turn into something she couldn't live with.

I really believe that Clark has turned something off in relation to Lana, she was willing to leave him for her own safety and now Chloe has also been willing to leave him as well. It seems that he's having difficulty re-connecting with Lana emotionally. I wouldn't be surprised if something similar now happens with Chloe. We'll have to see if the Chlark bond is so strong or whether he pulls back from her.

adromidon
10-19-2007, 06:00 PM
Well I hope they at least stay friends. Even if Clark can not go to her for his decisions at least he can talk to her occationaly about stuff friends talk about

curiosity
10-19-2007, 07:00 PM
Of course Clark didn't want to lose his best friend. Do you think they broke up Jimmy and Chloe for Chlark hope?

luvinChlark
10-19-2007, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by curiosity
Of course Clark didn't want to lose his best friend. Do you think they broke up Jimmy and Chloe for Chlark hope?

I hope so. If you ask yourself why did Chimmy have to break up? maybe the writers have Chlark on there minds.. :)

Originally posted by operadiva
I am not surprised that Chloe and Clark's scenes are always more entertaining..They seem to have a great connection...Whether it is a foreshadowing of them getting together who knows.. They are best friends..and sometimes seeing them in a scene you forget that they are just friends... they together act like lovers..at times...There is more chemistry between them than ever this season...The spark between Clark and Lana has been sucked Dry...I am not surprised..i recently viewed AM website and she talked about how one time during a scene she needed to cry and she couldn't..So she called Tom to her..told him to hold her hands..and he did ..and she said that did it..she started to ball her eyes out...Hummm...If only the writers would catch on realize...Chloe and Clark do belong together..


Is that true? Thats so sweet!:D

aqgalaxy
10-19-2007, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by chlo-el
Well I do think she was terrified that her life was in danger. But I don't think Jimmy was just an after thought because she did write to Jimmy if I don't remeber you remind me why we belong together. He was a factor and her fear of not living.

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See that got me thinking... if Clark didn't decided to go all investigator Clark... would he know Chloe would be doing this cure? If not... and lets say Knox wasn't going to kill her... would Chloe even tell Clark? Or would he be strolling into the Daily Planet one day... looking for Chloe and when he finds her and talk and she goes "I'm sorry do I know you?"

Could this be a similarity of Clark not saying goodbye to Chloe for his training

Barbara
10-19-2007, 08:06 PM
I have read through most of the comments in this thread. I think some here are missing the point.

There is no doubt in my mind that the greatest love relationship in Smallville has been that of the Chloe and Clark relationship ever since season four when Chloe learned Clark's secret.

There are so many types of love. Love for a parent, love for a child, the romantic love for a girlfriend/boyfriend/spouse. People just assume that romantic love is always the deepest or the strongest. Sometimes that can be so. But it isn't always so.

Chloe's character shows the depth of loyalty she has for Clark. No matter what she will always be there for him, will support him, help him, be his friend, protect him, and never betray him. No other characters outside of Jonathan and Martha have been there that way for him. Not Pete, not Lana, not Lex. From Clark's perspective Chloe's friendship is irreplaceable. And he is right. It doesn't have anything to do with romance but has everything to do with love. The deepest truest and most selfless love on the show.

Placing myself in the fanatasy. If I had a choice to be Lana or Chloe and be his girlfriend or his best friend I would rather be Chloe in a heartbeat.

SteveS
10-19-2007, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by Barbara
I have read through most of the comments in this thread. I think some here are missing the point.

There is no doubt in my mind that the greatest love relationship in Smallville has been that of the Chloe and Clark relationship ever since season four when Chloe learned Clark's secret.

There are so many types of love. Love for a parent, love for a child, the romantic love for a girlfriend/boyfriend/spouse. People just assume that romantic love is always the deepest or the strongest. Sometimes that can be so. But it isn't always so.

Chloe's character shows the depth of loyalty she has for Clark. No matter what she will always be there for him, will support him, help him, be his friend, protect him, and never betray him. No other characters outside of Jonathan and Martha have been there that way for him. Not Pete, not Lana, not Lex. From Clark's perspective Chloe's friendship is irreplaceable. And he is right. It doesn't have anything to do with romance but has everything to do with love. The deepest truest and most selfless love on the show.

Placing myself in the fanatasy. If I had a choice to be Lana or Chloe and be his girlfriend or his best friend I would rather be Chloe in a heartbeat.

I like your post and agree with most of it especially about this kind of love being irreplaceable, my difference being that I think that this love is the much better foundation for a long lasting relationship than romance which for the majority ends in break up and divorce. Chloe as a person is infinitely more important to ClarkMan than whats-her-name will ever be. Chloe and ClarkMan have a bond than many envy and most of those invested in 'hotness' have no clue as to what it is and rarely realize that in Superman's terms, 'hotness' will evaporate in moments.

Khyla
10-19-2007, 09:54 PM
Clark was pleading with her not to have the procedure explaining she doesn't know anything about this doctor and she should look into it further, and he's more concerned about what the side effects might be. And when Chloe tells him some memory loss, he seems to be getting pretty upset when he says. "Chloe, you're gonna forget everything. your friends, your experiences." And then i love how he says it, as if he just realizes how devastating it would be to him. "You're gonna forget me!" (like *OMG that cant happen!*)
and then when he sets his jaw and says it again more firmly, it's as if that should be enough to make her not go thru with it, "You're gonna forget ME!"
and her response to him was so so,,, i don't know...almost shy, flattered, and embarrassed at the same time. so cute! *sigh* :):):)


Originally posted by aqgalaxy
See that got me thinking... if Clark didn't decided to go all investigator Clark... would he know Chloe would be doing this cure? If not... and lets say Knox wasn't going to kill her... would Chloe even tell Clark? Or would he be strolling into the Daily Planet one day... looking for Chloe and when he finds her and talk and she goes "I'm sorry do I know you?"

Could this be a similarity of Clark not saying goodbye to Chloe for his training

Wow, ya know that is a possibility. My thinking was that she didn't write him a letter because she assumed she'd see him before the procedure "scheduled for the end of the week". Was she lying about that and already knew she was going right then? Hmmmmm......


Also she told Clark "If you want to save me, let me go." (like the best way to save her is not to try and save her), and don't try to hold her back. and that he needs to let go of whatever it is he expects from her and his hold over her.... It's almost like a reversal of what we'd expect he'd say to her when he goes on his training.


Barbara, Welcome!!! You rock! your post is excellent! :)

aqgalaxy
10-19-2007, 10:17 PM
I agree Khyla... also I think she lied about the end of the week too considering it looked like it was all at the same day... the outfit was the same...

TampaVille
10-19-2007, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
I agree Khyla... also I think she lied about the end of the week too considering it looked like it was all at the same day... the outfit was the same...

I don't think it was a lie necessarily. It was almost certainly the same day (I'd have to rewatch the episode, but I'm pretty sure there were many indicators it all happened on the same day, her outfit being one, as you pointed out). I also recall Superm- er, I mean Dr. Knox, saying something along the lines of, "Thank you for coming by on such short notice." Or maybe it was Chloe who said, "Thank you for seeing me on such short notice." Either way, I got the impression that maybe it was originally a "by the end of the week" thing, but then when Dr. Knox saw her initial test results, he called her in ASAP because he realized her heart was compatible for his wife.

So when she said it, she might not have known it would be sooner than the end of the week, then later she found out he could see her that day. This is very speculative though, and I've only watched the episode once so far, so I could be way off in my timeline! :)

Khyla
10-19-2007, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by TampaVille
I don't think it was a lie necessarily. It was almost certainly the same day ...(I also recall Superm- er, I mean Dr. Knox, saying something along the lines of, "Thank you for coming by on such short notice."
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So when she said it, she might not have known it would be sooner than the end of the week, then later she found out he could see her that day.

You're absolutely correct here. But that's just it, they do not make it clear whether she finds out her appt. was moved up before or after she talks to Clark. I'm guessing though that because she was writing that letter to Jimmy right when Clark came, that she already knew and didn't tell Clark the whole truth because she didn't want him trying to interfere.

D.M.A.
10-19-2007, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by chlo-el
Well I do think she was terrified that her life was in danger. But I don't think Jimmy was just an after thought because she did write to Jimmy if I don't remeber you remind me why we belong together. He was a factor and her fear of not living.

Also I think until this ep we've seen Chloe always think of Clark first and not herself and here we actually see her turning Clark down. This seen was really powerful becuase she was thinking of perserving her self before thinking of how it could effect Clark.
the reason I said he was an afterthought was because of the letter,imo that goes along wit chloe's "Ppl can fill me in later" speech.Jimmy didnt kno what was goin on so she was givin him the heads up that she might need remindin later,the same could be said for lois(if she was there).But imo she was more concern wit her health first and then everyone else,her convo wit clark makes it sound as tho she's scared first.Everythin else isnt enough to convince her,not jimmy nor clark.I think thats why the scene is so great,cause I do agree she finally was thinkin about herself first but thats my point.Her decision was based off of her safety first,everyone else feelings 2nd(even jimmy's).

Originally posted by TampaVille
I was all for Chlark a year or two back myself, but I am afraid you're reading too much into things at this point. Particularly "chloe's eternal love." That is really some wishful thinking :). Every indication we have from the show is that Chloe is firmly over Clark.
I agree sum may be lookin 2 much into the scene,but disagree about chloe's eternal luv bein gone.I think we saw multi signs last season that chloe isnt firmly over clark,but I do think she's got her mind set that she'll never be wit him tho.She's tryin to move on yes,but bein over him I dont see any signs of that.As for the scene I do agree it was more so a friendly concern but who knows.I'd luv to be wrong but would it matter...I mean whether its friendly or romantic we knew clark would react this way to this news from chloe.I'm jus enjoyin what we did get :p :)

adromidon
10-19-2007, 11:27 PM
I bet if she had done it Clark would go into a depression I mean who is he going to open up to now Lana? I do not think so MM? He would not care. Kara? She hardly knows him

Chloe is an important part of his life yes when he becomes superman she is not there but I bet she still exists and that they are friends he has just learned to move past his dependance on her

chlo-el
10-20-2007, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
the reason I said he was an afterthought was because of the letter,imo that goes along wit chloe's "Ppl can fill me in later" speech.Jimmy didnt kno what was goin on so she was givin him the heads up that she might need remindin later,the same could be said for lois(if she was there).But imo she was more concern wit her health first and then everyone else,her convo wit clark makes it sound as tho she's scared first.Everythin else isnt enough to convince her,not jimmy nor clark.I think thats why the scene is so great,cause I do agree she finally was thinkin about herself first but thats my point.Her decision was based off of her safety first,everyone else feelings 2nd(even jimmy's).



I agree with you. Her decision was based on her safety first and no one elses which is new for Chloe.

Khyla
10-21-2007, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
...I think thats why the scene is so great,cause I do agree she finally was thinkin about herself first but thats my point.Her decision was based off of her safety first,everyone else feelings 2nd(even jimmy's)

And can you imagine how chaotic her world must seem to her right now, after returning from death, realizing her power, meeting Kara, watching Lois become her co-worker, learning Lana was dead then finding out Lana's alive*. the seeming insanity and gravity of all of this (on top of her usual Clark-Phantom-Martian-Lex insanity) must be weighing heavily enough on her that her own self-preservation instincts were on overload.

* I find it interesting that the writers chose not to show us CHloe's reaction at finding out Lana was alive.


Originally posted by D.M.A.
...I agree sum may be lookin 2 much into the scene,but disagree about chloe's eternal luv bein gone.I think we saw multi signs last season that chloe isnt firmly over clark,but I do think she's got her mind set that she'll never be wit him tho.She's tryin to move on yes,but bein over him I dont see any signs of that.As for the scene I do agree it was more so a friendly concern but who knows.I'd luv to be wrong but would it matter...I mean whether its friendly or romantic we knew clark would react this way to this news from chloe.I'm jus enjoyin what we did get :p :)

I completely agree.

limi
10-21-2007, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
the reason I said he was an afterthought was because of the letter,imo that goes along wit chloe's "Ppl can fill me in later" speech.Jimmy didnt kno what was goin on so she was givin him the heads up that she might need remindin later,the same could be said for lois(if she was there).But imo she was more concern wit her health first and then everyone else,her convo wit clark makes it sound as tho she's scared first.Everythin else isnt enough to convince her,not jimmy nor clark.I think thats why the scene is so great,cause I do agree she finally was thinkin about herself first but thats my point.Her decision was based off of her safety first,everyone else feelings 2nd(even jimmy's).
I'm not sure it was only her own safety she was worried about. As she said herself, it seems like all the meteor infected people snap at some point. I think it's likely she was also thinking about other people's safety as well as her own, because I'm sure she'd never forgive herself if she hurt one of her friends.

D.M.A.
10-21-2007, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by limi
I'm not sure it was only her own safety she was worried about. As she said herself, it seems like all the meteor infected people snap at some point. I think it's likely she was also thinking about other people's safety as well as her own, because I'm sure she'd never forgive herself if she hurt one of her friends.
True,but those who did snap did wit their powers.Chloe cant misuse her power since its only to heal,thats why I think it was her safety more so than the worry of what she'd do to others.Like she told clark what makes them believe she wont stay dead next time...Her worries was about her life first everythin else imo was an afterthought

AndiGirl
10-21-2007, 02:41 PM
I agree...I wish Chloe could see her powers aren't exactly a threat to mankind. she can heal ppl....what about that power screams "I may go crazy and go on a killing spree" Well....if she does, she can bring them back to life! I do think Chloe is worried about her own safety...and thats completely understandable. It's like she said...last time she healed someone she died....the next time she may not come back. I think once she calms down and looks at the situation she will see she can do some real good with her powers, and she'll embrace them.

kris10
10-21-2007, 03:33 PM
did anyone notice that Clark didn't mention Jimmy at all? He just mentioned himself. wouldn't it be better to mention that she would forget Jimmy? I am all for Chlark but I am also realistic but why would TPTB write it that way?

adromidon
10-21-2007, 08:05 PM
because at the time as selfish as it may be he was concerned with losing a friend if she had continued to talk it through with him the subject of Jimmy may have come up

Clarkgirl8
10-21-2007, 09:10 PM
Clark's face when he arrived to the apartment in that scene just broke my little Chlark heart... so sweet, worried, totally loved it... and the way he says friends and later ''you're gonna forget about me'' i was like wait a sec... you're not her friend??? <3

My fav scene... :D

D.M.A.
10-21-2007, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by kris10
did anyone notice that Clark didn't mention Jimmy at all? He just mentioned himself. wouldn't it be better to mention that she would forget Jimmy? I am all for Chlark but I am also realistic but why would TPTB write it that way?
I think thats what made it realistic by not mention jimmy,I expected clark to list fam/friends then list hisself seperate.Cause chlark r the closes of anyone on the show,and they've been thru alot.

She was about to giveup pretty much her whole life/what makes her chloe jus cause she hear there is a cure.Thats why clark asked her to do more research first,he was tryin to talk her out of it.

And he listed his self last cause he assumed wit all they've been thru it would be enough.If she was willing to lose her memory and possibly clark 2 then what would listin jimmy do.

Like she said ppl can remind her later,but clark knew the experiences they had together couldnt be explain.Thats why he was worried

Serynarpc
10-21-2007, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by xaosthry
I found it sad when she told Clark if he wanted to save her, he needed to let her go.

I also thought that was sad. I went from the 'aww' snugglewub to 'she's not serious?'

Only in Smallville.

Khyla
10-21-2007, 10:12 PM
^ snugglewub ?

:lol: That's so cute! :):) .....seriously! :)

aqgalaxy
10-21-2007, 10:34 PM
Anyone else notice him frowning?

After he goes "You'r going to forget Me" the second time... when you see his face after Chloe goes "People will be there when I come back..." at that next shot to his face... he had a ghost of a smile on his face and it becomes a frown as if he was waiting for Chloe to agree with him or something...

Clarkgirl8
10-21-2007, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
Anyone else notice him frowning?

After he goes "You'r going to forget Me" the second time... when you see his face after Chloe goes "People will be there when I come back..." at that next shot to his face... he had a ghost of a smile on his face and it becomes a frown as if he was waiting for Chloe to agree with him or something...

His face was like he was waiting indeed... i think Tom is trying to kill us (chlarkers) cause his acting says sooo much... the minute Clark arrived to the apartment you could see the pain on his face... :(

Serynarpc
10-22-2007, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by Khyla
^ snugglewub ?

:lol: That's so cute! :):) .....seriously! :)

Its copyrighted for Smallville loveage. For platonic friends, they seem to be wrapping each other up in their arms an awful lot!

Snugglewub! :rotfl:

Angelina2809
10-22-2007, 09:01 AM
I also think that these words from Clark wered very sweet! He really was scared that Chloe would forgrt him!
He said these words twice: "You're Gonna Forgret Me"
That was a sweet and cute scene between Chlark and I watched it again and again. I think for Clark it would be painful if Chloe would forget everything about him or the last 6 years!

adromidon
10-22-2007, 10:18 AM
oddly enough that would have been the perfect way for tptb to write her off the show thank god they didn't

kris10
10-22-2007, 03:08 PM
I get what you're saying but if you were my "friend" I would mention that by the way you're not gonna have the connection with jimmy. I think he should have mentioned that little fact and didnt. Selfish-yea but my question is why?


Originally posted by D.M.A.
I think thats what made it realistic by not mention jimmy,I expected clark to list fam/friends then list hisself seperate.Cause chlark r the closes of anyone on the show,and they've been thru alot.

She was about to giveup pretty much her whole life/what makes her chloe jus cause she hear there is a cure.Thats why clark asked her to do more research first,he was tryin to talk her out of it.

And he listed his self last cause he assumed wit all they've been thru it would be enough.If she was willing to lose her memory and possibly clark 2 then what would listin jimmy do.

Like she said ppl can remind her later,but clark knew the experiences they had together couldnt be explain.Thats why he was worried

adromidon
10-22-2007, 07:54 PM
we will just have to thank god she did not get it done if Knox had not been after killing her

Serynarpc
10-22-2007, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by kris10
I get what you're saying but if you were my "friend" I would mention that by the way you're not gonna have the connection with jimmy. I think he should have mentioned that little fact and didnt. Selfish-yea but my question is why?

I think its passive Chlarkage. Clark is still ga- ga over Lana and doesn't think he has any feelings for Chloe. Not mentioning Jimmy seems to be more downplaying his importance to Chloe.

While he wants Chloe to be happy, he doesn't seem to want her happy with any other guy. Reminds me of Clarks' last red K moment- 'I want to marry Lana and keep Chloe in my back pocket'.

adromidon
10-22-2007, 09:23 PM
yeah it sounds similar to that

Clarkgirl8
10-22-2007, 10:13 PM
I was thinking... maybe im reading too much ok :lol:

Clark's question "What are the side effects of the procedure?"... wasnt it weird?? i mean it was very specific, it should be something like "Are you sure its safe?" or "Are you gonna be ok?" maybe an "i should go with you" is a more normal response... But asking about Side effects? thats not a question you ask like that (i mean BDA c'mon! :lol: )... well IMO this could be:

*Because they tried to make the conversation shorter, straight to the point... the memory loss thing... only this wasnt really necesary between Clark and Chloe if you think about it... we knew Chloe was willing to take the risk...

oooor, this is where my theory starts:

*Because they wanted Clark saying the "you're gonna forget me" line... and make us think about Chlark again... cause if you ask me this was a very sellfish thing for Clark to say... unless he has another motivation :D i mean he really showed his feelings...

dont know if i explained this right... :lol: its all (a mess) in my head... maybe :D

adromidon
10-22-2007, 10:27 PM
I think they did it to jump to how Clark felt if they played it out as it may actually have happened in real life then that scene would take to long

D.M.A.
10-22-2007, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by kris10
I get what you're saying but if you were my "friend" I would mention that by the way you're not gonna have the connection with jimmy. I think he should have mentioned that little fact and didnt. Selfish-yea but my question is why?
There was really no need,he knew ppl could fill her in on things.Plus when she saw jimmy again he would fill her in,what I find more interestin/wonderin why was why clark put his self seperate.Not namin jimmy meant nothin imo,cause she was have been let in on it later.I dont think it was selfish

Clarkgirl8
10-22-2007, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by adromidon
I think they did it to jump to how Clark felt if they played it out as it may actually have happened in real life then that scene would take to long

^ But we kinda knew how he felt (worried, sad, etc) we didnt need to hear that from him we could see his face... then why did they add that??? more drama??

Bigx07
10-22-2007, 10:44 PM
They just want to tease us chlarkers.

D.M.A.
10-22-2007, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by Clarkgirl8
^ But we kinda knew how he felt (worried, sad, etc) we didnt need to hear that from him we could see his face... then why did they add that??? more drama??
agreed,he didnt have to say it but it is interestin he did.Thats why I say not mention jimmy didnt mean as much as him mention his self seperate.He knew she could be filled in on the info and didnt need her tellin him she could be.He knew that they've been thru alot and those things cant be explain over like its sumthin simple.So who knows his real reason,I think they left it open for us to speculate tho

Bigx07
10-22-2007, 10:50 PM
^^^ like they always do.

TampaVille
10-23-2007, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by Bigx07
They just want to tease us chlarkers.

I've always hoped for Chlark, but I didn't see any suggestion of Chlark in that scene. Chloe and Clark love each other. That is unquestionable. That doesn't mean it's necessarily romantic love. Siblings can love one another, as can parents and children, as also can friends. That scene showed the love between these two. Clark separated himself out because he loves her, adamently, and without doubt. It doesn't necessarily suggest any romantic interest on either of their parts. I watched the scene several times and didn't pick up any suggestion of romantic interest.

That's not to say that anybody else's interpretation is wrong. The show is fictional, so it means whatever you see in it. I don't see that as necessarily being a tease scene though. If you look at it as a romantic issue which never gets played out, you might be downplaying the true love which does exist between them on a different level.

kal-el_Girl
10-23-2007, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by Bigx07
They just want to tease us chlarkers.
but like RED K Clark said:
"It's not like I haven't thought about it":p

adromidon
10-23-2007, 08:04 PM
Yeah they hint at it all the time