Dr. Knox is Jack the ripper???

[Alexander III]

OMG! That's unbelievable!! Jack the ripper is finally been caught! YAY!!!

[Honey45]

Yes but.. what happened to him?
'"Don't ask, don't tell".

Is this because they really couldn't think of what to do with him?
Or maybe they're leaving it open for him to return at another episode?

[Alexander III]

Maybe MM locked both Knox and Bizarro in a room together! Think about the drama between those two if they were to be a room 2gether. LOL

[Dodge006]

Originally posted by Alexander III
Maybe MM locked both Knox and Bizarro in a room together! Think about the drama between those two if they were to be a room 2gether. LOL

Bizzaro: "Ok I got one."

Dr. Knox: "God damnit dude, I'm not playing 20 questions anymore! You are CLARK!!! YOU ARE ALWAYS CLARK!!!"

[erikamichelle614]

i feel like he was flown to mars.. like bizarro..

[biggkoz]

Funny chloe said jack the ripper.

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by Dodge006
Bizzaro: "Ok I got one."

Dr. Knox: "God damnit dude, I'm not playing 20 questions anymore! You are CLARK!!! YOU ARE ALWAYS CLARK!!!"

:lol: :rotfl:

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by erikamichelle614
i feel like he was flown to mars.. like bizarro..

Either a pocket universe or the Phantom Zone. But I'm going with a pocket universe.

[alienkinfolk]

explain pocket universe?

[BeatlesRule]

When was this Jack the Ripper line said? I got a phone call during the episode. (The only show I really watch all week and that's when people call me!)

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by BeatlesRule
When was this Jack the Ripper line said? I got a phone call during the episode. (The only show I really watch all week and that's when people call me!)

Towards the end of the episode when he had Chloe on the rolling metal bed next to the one he loved.

[BeatlesRule]

Thanks, that's about the time I got the call. I was watching but didn't get to hear everything being said.

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by BeatlesRule
Thanks, that's about the time I got the call. I was watching but didn't get to hear everything being said.

Youre welcome. I look forward to every weeks episode so if someone calls me during it, ill just let it ring haha...

[superspider02]

yea i thought that line was pretty cool, and also i too wonder where the martian did put him. I do hope they can get dean to come back later in the season.

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by superspider02
yea i thought that line was pretty cool, and also i too wonder where the martian did put him. I do hope they can get dean to come back later in the season.

I hope he comes back too. Almiles said that they left him open to come back, and they did, and i wouldnt see why his character couldnt come back.

[Runestone]

He was also Napoleon. Freaking hilarious. :lol:

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by alienkinfolk
explain pocket universe?

Hmm. Two examples. Green Lanterns hide their lanterns in a small pocket universe so if anyone breaks into their homes, the thieves can't find their lanterns. They use them to charge their rings.

Example two was from the end of the Crisis on Infinite Earths. Kal-L (not El), Earth two's Lois Lane, Earth three's Alexander (not Lex) Luthor and Superboy from Earth prime were in a small pocket universe, keeping an eye on the goings on before the Infinite Crisis started. Amongst a few other people.

[amberdawn]

LOL! I thought that was hilarious.

[Ardiem3]

Mabye, what Knox meant when he said that he was Jack the Ripper was the he can take other forms?

[Coyote]

He's the Smallville version of Vandal Savage.

[DarkChilde]

I was thinking he was more like Longinus(Roar, 7th Sign, Casca Books) the Roman Soldier that stabbed Christ While he was on the cross and cursed to live forever.

But he could have been Jack the Ripper, he said he was.

[muffinpeddler]

I think he's Vandal Savage.

Originally posted by alienkinfolk
explain pocket universe?
basically, it's what it sounds like. It's a tiny little universe existing in or between other universes. Like the pockets in your jeans.

[dsfjr1190]

I thought Savage was a Batman's villian.....

[Darth Pipes]

Thought the "I was Jack the Ripper" line was the best of the night.

[muffinpeddler]

Originally posted by dsfjr1190
I thought Savage was a Batman's villian.....
Nope. He's really a neutral villian, he doesn't go after one hero in particular. He's tangled with the JLA and JSA most.

[CLSmith]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandal_Savage

He's pretty much tangled with most of the DC Comics roster.

Interesting about his origin in the wiki link.

-cs™

[adromidon]

I would have loved for them to explain how he was immortal

[Alexander III]

Originally posted by Ardiem3
Youre welcome. I look forward to every weeks episode so if someone calls me during it, ill just let it ring haha...

Or just smash the phone in pieces!

[adromidon]

I just ignore the phone if it keeps ringing I answer but I have a DVR so it records the episode unless I need to watch it over

[Son of Kal-El20]

I presume MM has his own special prison where he puts these superpowered foes. Or he's working with the Justice League and their rounding up all these villains putting them in a special prison.

Either way, I think Dean's character got locked up in a special cell.

[adromidon]

yeah or in a room where he is killed over and over

[TampaVille]

I loved the "I was Jack the Ripper" line! Best line of the episode. I'm so glad they had the guts to include it.

Originally posted by Dodge006
Bizzaro: "Ok I got one."

Dr. Knox: "God damnit dude, I'm not playing 20 questions anymore! You are CLARK!!! YOU ARE ALWAYS CLARK!!!"

That is extremely funny! I burst out laughing when I read it.

[adromidon]

lol I can see that conversation it would fuel Knox's rage toward Clark then when and if he got out he would really be pissed at Clark

[randy23]

Is Dr. Knox a homage to Vandal Savage? Smallville is suppose to be based on the DC continuity obviously the show has major alterations with the story plot, but the majority of the characters are intact.

[adromidon]

It is said that he is possible a referance to him

[Brizzle]

I liked that line by cain.

[chantal]

Originally posted by Alexander III
OMG! That's unbelievable!! Jack the ripper is finally been caught! YAY!!!

Star Trek fans already know who Jack the Ripper was! And will be.

The guy on the horse in Lex's picture wasn't Napoleon, he said it was 1675. I'm not sure who a famous baddy from 1675 might have been.

[DarkChilde]

Originally posted by chantal
Star Trek fans already know who Jack the Ripper was! And will be.

The guy on the horse in Lex's picture wasn't Napoleon, he said it was 1675. I'm not sure who a famous baddy from 1675 might have been.

Jack The Ripper was the Voyager with the Silver Omni :)

1675 bad guy.... King Philips War Begins
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history.do?id=5119&action=tdihArticleCategory

[migo]

Which Star Trek series? I hope it's not TNG, 'cause if so I'm losing my touch.

I thought the best Jack the Ripper was in that Outer Limits episode.

[adromidon]

lol

[DarkChilde]

FYI It was a reference to the Orginal Star Trek, the episode was called "Wolf in the fold".

"The real "Jack the Ripper," a noncorporeal entity which feeds off the terror of others"

[cma_454]

Originally posted by DarkChilde
FYI It was a reference to the Orginal Star Trek, the episode was called "Wolf in the fold".

"The real "Jack the Ripper," a noncorporeal entity which feeds off the terror of others"

Seems to be a bit of Trek in Season 7:

Chloe's power (and her fear of using it) - Star Trek, The Empath
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/episode/68786.html

Curtis Knox's desire for an imortal mate - Star Trek, Requiem for Methuselah
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/episode/68812.html

[Odysseus]

The "I WAS Jack the Ripper" line was definitely the best line of the episode. The way Dean Cain delivered it was just awesome.

And in answer to the topic question, "Curtis Knox" is apparently Vandal Savage, an immortal villain from the DC Comics who has played a major role in history. In the DC Comics, it turns out that several evil people from history, such as Jack the Ripper among others, were all actually Vandal Savage in his various guises. He eventually becomes one of the Justice League's biggest recurring enemies.

[adromidon]

yeah that was cool

[ash91]

i think it was a real dissapointment that they didn't actually say what MM did to him, i know they're leaving it open for D Cain to come back but still they could have at least told us where he's being kept prisoner. plus to be honest i don't see dean cain coming back, he was asked the question in an interview and he pretty much said no because of his young son and too much work

[samanta]

I'm not sure but when Lex was showing to Clark pictures of Knox, wasn't in one picture Napoleon Bonaparte?

[Silent Kal]

Originally posted by TampaVille
I loved the "I was Jack the Ripper" line! Best line of the episode. I'm so glad they had the guts to include it.

Have to agree with you (and the several others who said this).

I thought Cain's performance in this role really saved an otherwise lackluster episode. I had a lot of gripes with this one, but Cain just sunk his teeth into that role, and the "Ripper" line was icing on the cake.

[redboots]

Originally posted by samanta
I'm not sure but when Lex was showing to Clark pictures of Knox, wasn't in one picture Napoleon Bonaparte?

I believe it was, which is worse than saying he was Jack the Ripper. No one ever knew what Jack the Ripper looked like, but I've seen that famous portrait of Napolean and he looks nothing like Dean Cain. I thought that was pushing it a bit.

[chantal]

Originally posted by samanta
I'm not sure but when Lex was showing to Clark pictures of Knox, wasn't in one picture Napoleon Bonaparte?

When showing that picture, Lex said it was in 1675, way too early for Bonaparte. I couldn't see it very well, but the clothes didn't look right for 1675, though.

[samanta]

Originally posted by redboots
I believe it was, which is worse than saying he was Jack the Ripper. No one ever knew what Jack the Ripper looked like, but I've seen that famous portrait of Napolean and he looks nothing like Dean Cain. I thought that was pushing it a bit. Actually it was the best part of this episode IMO :D I haven't seen something so funny in long time.

Originally posted by chantal
When showing that picture, Lex said it was in 1675, way too early for Bonaparte. I couldn't see it very well, but the clothes didn't look right for 1675, though. It's really Bonaparte. It's Napoleon crossing the Alps by Jacques-Louis David.

[redboots]

Actually it was the best part of this episode IMO I haven't seen something so funny in long time.

I agree. I'm taking it too seriously lol. It's just that I've studied Jack the Ripper and know that his reasons for his murders went way beyond just taking body parts. But it was still a cool line delivered brilliantly by Dean ;)

[chantal]

Originally posted by DarkChilde
FYI It was a reference to the Orginal Star Trek, the episode was called "Wolf in the fold".

"The real "Jack the Ripper," a noncorporeal entity which feeds off the terror of others"

Then we know where MM took Knox, Alpha Proxima II! And there were murders at the Martian colonies in 2005. Mars must be in a different time zone!

[adromidon]

lol

[NotTodayPete]

wasn't napoleon known for being really short? dean is pretty tall

[Alexander III]

Originally posted by NotTodayPete
wasn't napoleon known for being really short? dean is pretty tall

Yeah some say he's only 5"2

[adromidon]

the Wiki entry on Wikipedia says that he was Napoleans advisor

[Alexander III]

Originally posted by adromidon
the Wiki entry on Wikipedia says that he was Napoleans advisor

He's advisors to Napoleans and Hitler...WOW talk about the intellectual mind this guy have!

[TampaVille]

Originally posted by Alexander III
He's advisors to Napoleans and Hitler...WOW talk about the intellectual mind this guy have!


OHHHHH! Okay! That makes much more sense. I hope that everybody who has complained about Dean Cain not looking at all like Napoleon can voice a silent internal apology to Al and Miles :). They get a lot wrong, but apparently this time they're alright. :)

[adromidon]

lol yeah

[Lasso69]

:lol: yeah Dean Cain really nailed Dr.Knox eh?


Kudos to casting ppl....

[chantal]

Originally posted by cma_454
Seems to be a bit of Trek in Season 7:

Chloe's power (and her fear of using it) - Star Trek, The Empath
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/episode/68786.html

Curtis Knox's desire for an imortal mate - Star Trek, Requiem for Methuselah
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/episode/68812.html

And, most importantly, framing someone for murder by killing your own clone - Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, A Man Alone

http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/A_Man_Alone

If Lex made clones the way Dr. Bashir did, I could see where a clone might not be "alive" in the growing human sense.

"Memorable Quotes

"Killing your own clone is still murder."

- Odo "

You tell em, Odo!!!

Although, Commander Riker and Dr. Pulaski had unauthorized clones of themselves destroyed. Maybe that was a clobortion.

Originally posted by samanta
Actually it was the best part of this episode IMO :D I haven't seen something so funny in long time.

It's really Bonaparte. It's Napoleon crossing the Alps by Jacques-Louis David.

So, do the writers not know when Napoleon was alive, or couldn't they find a picture that looked more like 1675?

They should have used "Butcher Cumberland" from 1745!

[adromidon]

who knows i bet they hired some fat nerdy guy sitting at his computer to do the reasearch for them and they just took him at his word.

wait I am some what fat and nerdy ! lol I could have used the money

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by adromidon
who knows i bet they hired some fat nerdy guy sitting at his computer to do the reasearch for them and they just took him at his word.

wait I am some what fat and nerdy ! lol I could have used the money

Haha. "Dammit, son of a ....."

[adromidon]

lol

[bychance]

What's all this talk about Star Trek? Jack the Ripper was a serial killer from the 1800s who killed a few prostitutes.

[jon-el87]

I thought Savage was a Batman's villian.....

Savage has fought against a number of heroes over the years in the comics. He started out in 1943 as a villain of the Golden Age Green Lantern.

Is Dr. Knox a homage to Vandal Savage? Smallville is suppose to be based on the DC continuity obviously the show has major alterations with the story plot, but the majority of the characters are intact.

Dr. Curtis Knox is really just an alias used by him (much like Vandal Savage is in the comics, his true name is actually Vandar Adg). Other names he's gone by over the years include Julius Ceasar, Blackbeard, Genghis Khan and Jack the Ripper. Personally, I like the fact that they brought him in and we don't realize that he's Savage, until he confirms that he was Jack the Ripper.

[Martian]

I haven't seen anyone above mention the really cool lines (in my humble opinion). Knox says to Clark that he will never know the pain of living forever and watching his loved ones die while he lives on. Clark has kind of figured out, though, that he will live forever, barring being killed. He replies to Knox that "We're more alike than you think!"

Which has a double meaning, to me. One, the immortality, and two, that they've both played the Superman/Clark Kent character.

As an aside, there was an episode on Lois & Clark where they both find out that because of Clark's alien physiology, he won't ever die, and it's pretty hard for Lois to take. So it's very fitting that Dean Koontz played Knox (aka Vandal Savage) in this episode.