Knight Rider - Original Development & Pilot Episode Discussion Thread

[KryptonSite]

This is the coolest news I've read in a while... from Variety today:

NBC taps Liman for 'Knight Rider'
Network readying two-hour backdoor pilot
By JOSEF ADALIAN
Liman


Original 'Knight Rider' was a hit for NBC from 1982-86.

NBC is bringing back "Knight Rider," tapping Doug Liman to produce a "Transformers"-inspired reworking of the 1980s hit action-drama series about a man and his indestructible supercar.
Peacock is readying a two-hour backdoor pilot for the project, with tentative plans to air it as a telepic later this season. Liman is open to the idea of directing, assuming his feature sked allows. If the telepic clicks, a new-model "Knight Rider" could be on the air as early as next fall.

Dave Andron ("Raines") is writing the pilot script and will serve as supervising producer alongside exec producers Liman and Dave Bartis ("The O.C.," "Heist") for Universal Media Studios and Dutch Oven Prods.

Success of "Transformers" had a role in inspiring NBC Entertainment chief Ben Silverman's decision to revive "Knight." The thinking is that smallscreen f/x have advanced to the point where it'd be feasible to have a weekly series in which cars shift shapes.

It's also likely the new show will explore the idea of "evil" cars to offset the heroic talking K.I.T.T. car of the original skein, which starred David Hasselhoff. That said, skein is expected to essentially remain focused on the story of a single man fighting for justice with the help of his superadvanced car.

There's also huge potential for advertiser integration. General Motors was all over "Transformers," and it's easy to see NBC striking a rich deal with a single automaker to serve as the exclusive auto brand for the new "Knight." It's understood preliminary talks have already begun.

Peacock is also veering from current conventional wisdom by moving forward with a telepic/backdoor pilot for "Knight." Nets rarely produce telepics with an eye on turning them into series anymore, in part because the telepic has essentially disappeared from the broadcast network scene.

But NBC execs no doubt feel "Knight Rider" is enough of a pre-sold brand to lure an audience. What's more, the telepic could serve as a good replacement for repeats come spring, perhaps replacing an encore of "Heroes" or "Bionic Woman."

"Knight" originally aired on NBC from 1982 until 1986, with Hasselhoff playing smooth crimefighter Michael Knight. A spinoff skein, "Team Knight Rider," aired in syndication during the 1997-98 season.

Project was put together by CAA and Adam Kolbrenner of Madhouse Entertainment.

Glen Larson created the original "Knight Rider" for Universal Television.

[Randy G.]

I heard about this a few weeks ago, & even had this wallpaper of the new KITT on my MySpace (including sound effects of KITT's sensor of course). I'd love to see a retooling of the series.
I wasn't into "Team Knight Rider," but loved the original Knight Rider.
Ahh..... you've got me reminiscing now. Remember Bonnie? :p :lol:

Here's that wallpaper.

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3491/261598862d9e2115bc6omv5.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=261598862d9e2115bc6omv5.jpg)

Randy G. :)

[warriorrenegade]

If these new "supercars" are so advanced then why have people driving them? Just call the show Transformers and get it over with. Don't get me wrong I loved the KnightRider growing up, but this just sounds like Transformers to me. I mean Good Kitt/shapeshifting cars against Evil Kitt/ shapeshifting cars....thats Transformers.

[InLove_with_Chloe]

I'll only watch it if it starrs David Hasselhoff again!!!
Preferably DRUNK.
:lol:
Oh man......KR was cult in Germany.
:rolleyes:

[krpto]

Wow I hope its good

[Exodus2000]

Wow...well....the first Knight Rider was excellent...and Team Knight Rider was deplorable....and lets not forget the 2 movies :rolleyes:

but hey....i guess if NBC has nothing better to do...or anything creative to come up with....then...sure why not....

If Peter Cullen comes back and does the voice for K.A.R.R......i'll watch.....at least i'll watch that episode.

[pycer]

Wow...what else can really be said about that? I was a fan back in the day, but then against I was like 5 sooo...I have that morbid curiosity kinda feel to this, kinda like I had with the Transformers movie at first, and that turned out well, so who knows? Hehe, think we will see the A-Team reamerge next?

[STFanatic]

What???
Oh man!!
Knight Rider?
This is the first I have heard of it.
I hope my expectations aren't too high on this and get shot down like I did with Battelstar Galactica.
I was jazzed to the extreme when I heard about BSG, man was I let down. I have seen exactly two episodes of BSG. :(

[Xanderman]

Can't wait for this movie. (I don't think it's going to be a tv series)

Thanks for posting that wallpaper Randy, it's awesome.:cool: Did you make that?

[Heroes]

http://thefoologs.com/BLOGIMAGES/kitt_rider.jpg

[TML]

Originally posted by Heroes
http://thefoologs.com/BLOGIMAGES/kitt_rider.jpg
I think that car is great, always loved it:
http://www.koenigsegg.com/

[TMLS]

It was confirmed, probably a year ago even, that "that" KITT was a fan creation, sadly. The new KITT is being built from a unique design with a few car companies' input.

[KryptonSite]

That new KITT looks really cool... too bad it's a fan creation.

[STFanatic]

When I win the Lottery, I am gonna build one :p

But the voice will be Homer Simpson's :lol:

[Xanderman]

Lol

Homer: Go, Knight Boat, go!
Marge: Ok, TV off. It's family time.
Homer: Oh, but Marge! Knight Boat! The crime SOLVING boat!

:lol:

[STFanatic]

Mmmmm... tire donut....drool..... :p

OMG this is my 5000th post!!!

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/Startrekfanatic/5000thpost.gif

[KryptonSite]

Justin Bruening has been cast as the son of Michael Knight for this new series:

http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-justinbrueningknightridercasting,0,2390974.story?c oll=zap-tv-headlines

[xrayvision]

This sounds awesome, but I don't think they should make KITT like a Transformer. They should have KITT be a suped up car again. I love Transformers, but they should keep the 2 as seperate things.

I haven't heard anything about Glen Larson. Will he be involved? I think he owns the copyrights for the characters in Knight Rider (Michael, Devon, Bonnie, April, FLAG, KITT, KARR, Garthe, Goliath, etc).

I really wanted them to use a Trans Am again for KITT's body since that's the car they always used (in Knight Rider 2000, they used the Banshee, which was the concept that became the next generation Trans Am). But the problem is Pontiac isn't making the Trans Ams anymore after 2002. It would be great if they used the 2002 model (which I bought) and supe it up even more. That car without any adjustments looks great, but with them would look really wild. If the Camaro (also an F body car like the Trans Am), which is supposed to return in 2009 wasn't so retro looking, I would think using it would be a great idea.

I always loved the hidden (pop up) lights that KITT had. It made KITT seem so much more sleek than if he would have been designed with the regular headlights.

My brother sent me this article:

http://tv.yahoo.com/show/34853/news/urn:newsml:tv.eonline.com:20071102:d421c6a3_e0934c 23_89a5_ad3f80f40ed8__ER:70016

So my question is, will it be called Knight Rider again, or Son of Knight Rider?

[constantine]

I like that they're giving a nod to the original knight rider and inded the previous failed attempts to bring it back...I really hope, at the same time they don't rush this because of larson's attempt to get a movie made is (probably) happening. So basically, I should stress that larson is NOT involved in the TV series...There's a lot of hostility around it. And current consensus is that it'll just be called knight rider.

remember the wise words of kiss: "keep it simple, stupid." :p

[xrayvision]

Crap, Larson isn't involved? I hope they don't destroy the magic of the original series and hope they make Michael's son be like him in many ways and not a cocky a-hole, like so many other characters on TV are lately.

[constantine]

Nope. Glen A. Larson is negotiating a movie with miramax. At least I think it's miramax

[KryptonSite]

After the mostly-disaster that is Bionic Woman, you'd think they'd want to involve some of the original people.

At the very least, I hope they at least approach William Daniels to voice KITT... and I hope they remember that it was KITT's gadgets (Turbo Boost etc.) that made the car cool... Team Knight Rider seemed to forget all of that.

[xrayvision]

It would be cool if they gave some resolution with April Curtis. I hope Rebecca Holden returns for some episodes. I'd like to see her and Bonnie together to see what happens. Peter Parros as RC3 was also cool. Too bad Edward Mulhare isn't around anymore. He kicked ass as Devon. If they ever replace him with a new character in Devon's role, I'd say Michael Caine would be great, but I don't think he would do TV.

[constantine]

Originally posted by KryptonSite
After the mostly-disaster that is Bionic Woman, you'd think they'd want to involve some of the original people.

At the very least, I hope they at least approach William Daniels to voice KITT... and I hope they remember that it was KITT's gadgets (Turbo Boost etc.) that made the car cool... Team Knight Rider seemed to forget all of that.

By all accounts as opposed to being based on the old kitt, the car has "shapeshifting" qualities. Interesting approach, because it's still called KITT but is an anacronym of "Knight Industries Three Thousand".

[Queenrocks77]

Oh man I can't wait for this!!! I hope they don't let us down!!! I'm not sure about the shape shifting thing.... But as long as KITT has turbo boost and personality I don't care!!

any word about a new Airwolf show? :rotfl:

[xrayvision]

I'm also not sure if shapeshifting would be a good idea. I would like KITT to be a car that can also float on water and hover in the air (along with other classic functions like Turbo Boost, Ski Mode, Pursuit Mode, Super Pursuit Mode, Surveillance Mode, and that cool laser that KARR stole). And ooh yeah, I want KARR back!! It would be great if Peter Cullen could do his voice again. I heard the guy who did it in KITT vs. KARR passed away unfortunately some years back.

[MidgardDragon]

So does this new series get the boot (or the push-back) due to the strike? Or was it even close to being written yet?

[KryptonSite]

I believe the script has been finished for a few weeks now... NBC has only ordered a TV-movie so far.

[xrayvision]

Craig,

If the series takes hold, will this be another show that is a featured hit on Kryptonsite like Smallville, Heroes, Bionic Woman, etc? I have been waiting for Supernatural to gain that status, but as good as it is, it doesn't look like it will.

[krpto]

would it be knightsite??

[KryptonSite]

If the series takes hold, will this be another show that is a featured hit on Kryptonsite like Smallville, Heroes, Bionic Woman, etc? I have been waiting for Supernatural to gain that status, but as good as it is, it doesn't look like it will.

would it be knightsite??

There are a few reasons I'd never done anything for Supernatural site wise. First off, Warner Bros. got really picky about what I posted when I first announced the show... but beyond that, there's a really good site at http://www.supernatural.tv . They're affiliates with K-Site and I just would not want to step on their "territory," especially since I'm not as passionate about the show as they are, and they do a really good job.

As for Knight Rider, I'd seriously consider it, but I do have a slight worry that it would disappoint like Bionic Woman did... also after the success of Heroes NBC seems to like to "play favorites" as far as publicity goes, and it seems this network of sites is skipped over on account of being "fan sites." So, I'd love to do it, but I don't know that it'd be as good as K-Site. And sadly, KnightSite is already taken. :( (I looked)

[xrayvision]

Well, if you do decide to do it, you can also use KITTsite (I don't think it's taken yet).

[KryptonSite]

Ha, that's a cool name, though "KnightSite" would sound so much cooler.

I used to own "KnightsPast.com" but then some cybersquatters took it when I forgot to renew. Oops.

[xrayvision]

Yeah, Knightsite would have been great. Sucks that it's been taken.

[03 kal-el]

http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/KITTKnightRiderMustang/1000259065

[TMLS]

I saw that a few days ago and immediately considered that a fake. It still looks it to me, I really hope it's not real. The red LED doesn't look quite right, either.

[constantine]

They need it to be a bugati Veyron. Nuff said. 100 brake horse power, has a top spead of somewhere near the 300 region. AND it looks like it could pass as a next gen kitt. Only problem is, the production budget would need to stretch to around the 840k mark for one of them.

[KryptonSite]

I really hope that's not KITT either... the car has to be right... otherwise they'll have a disaster of Bionic proportions... ;)

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Why not a Mustang???
:confused:
I mean, American car producers might wanna cash in, ya know?
Bugatti used to be French, now it's German (Volkswagen). I dunno......does that sound like Knightrider???
:p

[xrayvision]

No, not a Mustang. It looks too retro. Plus as a Trans Am owner, to me that's an insult. I would have said Camaro, but Chevy unfortunately is following what Ford did with the Mustang and is giving it a retro look too. The last model had so many more curves to it & was much sleeker looking as was the last model Trans Am (which I would love to be used).

[krpto]

Yah I think most new cars wouldn't work as KITT they could just use some older car for KITTs design and have Kitt have a line about the enemies underestamating him since he is an old car that isn't too flashy.

[constantine]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Why not a Mustang???
:confused:
I mean, American car producers might wanna cash in, ya know?
Bugatti used to be French, now it's German (Volkswagen). I dunno......does that sound like Knightrider???
:p

That my friend isn't a shelby mustang; that's a very ugly piece of aluminium that ford's decided to stick the name on and cash in. And the difference between the mustang and the pontiac, shockingly enough is that back in the 80's we knew more about the pontiac than any other american car really, and that's exactly the point. The car will need to have an international appeal to sell on the international TV market, which the new mustang doesn't have. That monstrosity doesn't have anywhere near the design and care the 65 does.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by krpto
Yah I think most new cars wouldn't work as KITT they could just use some older car for KITTs design and have Kitt have a line about the enemies underestamating him since he is an old car that isn't too flashy.

I like the way you think krpto. I have no problem if they even use the same model Trans Am that they did last time and they upgrade various parts. The 2002 model seemed to adapt many of the KITT features and is even sleeker than the '82 model. They could supe up the power and add some lasers and other functions. Maybe they could give him a hover function like the Delorean in Back to the Future had (though I'd stay away from this). Another reason I think the '02 model is good to use is because it also has the hidden headlights like the '82 model did, but the '02's lights are much sleeker. Cars with hidden headlights look much cooler than the ones without them in my opinion.

[03 kal-el]

hopefully if knight rider becomes a series. then viper could be released on dvd i hope. because then the people who owns the rights for viper to make dvds. will finally realize that people still likes. watching a show about a guy that fights crime with his car. i hope because viper was also a good show. to kryptonsite have you seen viper or to anybody else that reads this comment. all i know if they release viper i will also buy the whole season. i own all knight rider seasons on dvd.

[pycer]

I'd be okay if that were truly the knew KITT, but it looks more like a random guys custom job he had done to his car by simply adding the red lights.

[KryptonSite]

So, apparently the Mustang bit is true...

The premiere is 2 hours and is on Feb. 16 or something like that.

David Hasselhoff IS appearing.

And... in news that worries me a little... Will Arnett is the voice of KITT. I LOVE GOB, but I really don't want a "funny" KITT. I prefer a KITT who is well-spoken and snooty. lol Too funny and you get Team Knight Rider.

[KryptonSite]

Here are some pics:

http://www.terminatorsite.com/kitt1.jpg

http://www.terminatorsite.com/kitt2.jpg

http://www.terminatorsite.com/kitt3.jpg

http://www.terminatorsite.com/kitt4.jpg

http://www.terminatorsite.com/kitt5.jpg

http://www.terminatorsite.com/kitt6.jpg

http://www.terminatorsite.com/kitt7.jpg

[MidgardDragon]

Y'know, maybe it's just because I see so many similar looking cars on a daily basis, but the car really doesn't look cool enough to be KITT, IMO.

[KryptonSite]

Yeah I'm not really a fan of this new car design either. Part of what made the original KITT amazing was it looked so different.

I really liked the mockup car RandyG (I think it was him) posted earlier in this thread too... for the proposed movie.

[KryptonSite]

Here's the press release, by the way:

"Knight Rider" Cast Justin Bruening, Deanna Russo, Sydney Tamiia Poitier and Bruce Davison Participate at the Unveiling Event Showcasing the Customized KITT Ford Mustang to Be Featured in Movie

Dave Bartis ("Heist," "The O.C.") and Doug Liman ("Mr. and Mrs. Smith," "The Bourne Identity") to Serve as Executive Producers; David Hasselhoff, the Star of the Original "Knight Rider" Series, Appears as a Special Guest Star in His Original Role as Michael Knight

NBC Also Forms Partnership with Ford Motor Company That Provides for Unique Content Opportunity


BURBANK, Calif. - December 12, 2007 - As "Knight Rider" -- NBC's iconic 1980s television classic that became a runaway success, comes roaring back to life on the network with an updated sequel that will air as a two-hour movie event on Sunday, February 17 (9-11 p.m. ET) -- NBC unveiled the new customized KITT Ford Mustang to be featured in the series in a press event held at NBC's Burbank Studios today.

The movie stars Justin Bruening ("Cold Case," "All My Children"), Deanna Russo ("NCIS," "The Young and the Restless"), Sydney Tamiia Poitier ("Veronica Mars," "Grindhouse") and Bruce Davison ("Breach," "Close to Home"). In addition, David Hasselhoff (NBC's "America's Got Talent") -- who starred in the popular lead role as Michael Knight for four seasons during the original series -- returns as the same character in a special guest-star appearance. Will Arnett (NBC's "30 Rock," "Blades of Glory") will provide the voice of KITT.

Dave Bartis ("Heist," "The O.C.") and Doug Liman ("Mr. and Mrs. Smith," "The Bourne Identity") serve as executive producers.
NBC also has an arrangement with Ford Motor Company that provides for a unique content opportunity that makes the Ford Mustang one of the stars of the movie.

The three cars to be employed in the series include the KITT Hero -- a Ford Mustang Shelby GT500KR that is playing the part of the everyday Hero car with 540 horsepower; the KITT Attack -- a super high-speed version of the Ford Mustang Shelby GT500KR Hero car that transforms into Attack mode with the help of air-ride technology and specialized body parts -- and a KITT Remote, which is a driverless Ford Mustang Shelby GT500KR version of the Hero vehicle.

As the original story resumes, the new KITT (Knight Industries Three Thousand) is absolutely the coolest car ever created: its supercomputer capable of hacking almost any system; its weapons systems efficient; and its body -- thanks to its creator's work and nanotechnology -- is capable of actually shifting shape and color. Plus, its artificial intelligence makes it the ideal crime-fighting partner: logical, precise and possessing infinite knowledge. It is the ultimate car -- and someone will be willing to do anything to obtain it.

Sarah Graiman is a 24-year old Ph.D candidate at Stanford University, following in her genius father Charles' (Davison) footsteps. But when men attempt to abduct her, Sarah receives a mysterious call from KITT warning her that he's a creation of Charles, who also invented the first KITT 25 years ago -- and that her father is in serious danger.

Sarah and KITT track down her best friend from childhood, Mike Tracer (Bruening), a 23-year-old ex-Army Ranger, whom Sarah hasn't seen since he left home at 18. Having served in Iraq, Mike is now jaded and lost and initially resistant. Eventually he agrees to help Sarah and the two set out to discover who's behind the attempt to procure KITT and find Charles. Along the way, Carrie Rivai (Poitier) plays the agile yet tough FBI agent who has a long-standing friendship with Charles and Sarah. Due to those ties, she is brought into the mix to help in the search.

David Andron is supervising producer and writer. Steve Shill ("Dexter," "The Tudors"), also a co-executive producer, directs the two-hour movie from Universal Media Studios and Dutch Oven Productions.

[MidgardDragon]

The shape-shifting thing might make my initial disappointment with the car design subside a bit. If it ends up transforming into better and cooler shapes then it's really a non-issue.

[KryptonSite]

I'm growing tired of "nanotechnology" being the answer to everything too though.

[Shadowlord367]

I too prefer the previously posted car.

Cool... Sydney Tamiia Poiter. I liked her for the eight or so episodes of Veronica Mars she was in, though a bit dissappointed she was phased out.

[xrayvision]

Man, what a stupid mistake it was to use the Mustang. It sucks. It's just not KITT. It would have been better had they waited a few months and use the new Camaro, even though I don't like that one either compared to the previous model.

The cool thing about the original Knight Rider car (KITT) was that the Trans Am was modified so much that it didn't bastardize & become a product placement of Pontiac's car. It looked so different and there were no Pontiac logos on it. The back of the car had that nice tail light blackout that dimmed it out enough that you couldn't see the Trans Am's legendary Phoenix logo (even though I'm a huge fan of the TA).

But what do we have here? A Mustang with the Cobra logo clearly visible and with ugly-ass customizations. The spoiler sucks. It looks like a spoiled rich 17 year old brat's punk mobile rather than a highly specialized agency's supercar. The original 1982 car beats the hell out of this.

[STFanatic]

Back in 1990 I had to go buy a TransAm, I saved up for almost two years to get it.
They didn't have a black one at the time, so I ended up with a red one :D

Sadly, about six months later my girlfriend ran it into a telephone pole.
But on the bright side, I bought a new motorcycle with the insurance money ;)
As with most series, I will give it a chance and not judge it before I watch it.

[pycer]

I actually like the new mustang, but clearly I am a minority around these boards.

[dh1031]

I saw that a few days ago and immediately considered that a fake. It still looks it to me, I really hope it's not real. The red LED doesn't look quite right, either. Sadly, that is the car they are using for "KITT" on the new series. I saw a promo bit for the new series this morning on Fox News. No, they do not have William Daniels voicing KITT for the series either. BTW, Glen Larson is indeed NOT involved with this new tv series. From what I've read at many KR sites, Glen Larson had a big falling out over Knight Rider. Glen is still working on a Knight Rider film, and put out a statement a while back that he is holding to the true concepts of the original series. I'll have to go back to knightregistries.com and see if I can find the link to the statement Glen Larson made a while back. Apparently Universal wanted a complete overhaul of Knight Rider for the film, but Glen did not like the idea. So (according to Glen Larson), Universal is rushing out the new tv series to try to quash his efforts to get the film made.

Time will tell.

[pycer]

In reference to the light not looking right, I think they said somewhere in there that when they took the pictures, they didn't have the light working correctly so in the pics it was photoshopped in.

[warriorrenegade]

I like the new Mustang as well. It looks tough as hell.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by STFanatic
Back in 1990 I had to go buy a TransAm, I saved up for almost two years to get it.
They didn't have a black one at the time, so I ended up with a red one :D

Sadly, about six months later my girlfriend ran it into a telephone pole.
But on the bright side, I bought a new motorcycle with the insurance money ;)
As with most series, I will give it a chance and not judge it before I watch it.

I feel for you my friend. I wouldn't let anyone else but myself drive mine.

Originally posted by dh1031
Sadly, that is the car they are using for "KITT" on the new series. I saw a promo bit for the new series this morning on Fox News. No, they do not have William Daniels voicing KITT for the series either. BTW, Glen Larson is indeed NOT involved with this new tv series. From what I've read at many KR sites, Glen Larson had a big falling out over Knight Rider. Glen is still working on a Knight Rider film, and put out a statement a while back that he is holding to the true concepts of the original series. I'll have to go back to knightregistries.com and see if I can find the link to the statement Glen Larson made a while back. Apparently Universal wanted a complete overhaul of Knight Rider for the film, but Glen did not like the idea. So (according to Glen Larson), Universal is rushing out the new tv series to try to quash his efforts to get the film made.

Time will tell.

If Larson won't be involved, then something tells me this will be a far cry from the intentions of the original show. The car is just one sign. Does it even have a scanner?

As much as I don't like the retro-look trend, I would definitely think the new Camaro would be a million times better. Like the Trans Am, it's an F-body car and there is a spot for the scanner to be mounted that would look great.

[KryptonSite]

Not a lot of content there yet but I've registered and put up http://www.kittsite.com .

I think an editorial piece might be a good thing to start with ;)

[STFanatic]

Groovy :D

[KryptonSite]

I'm not TOTALLY sure I'll do anything with it, but at least I have it handy right?

[krpto]

right you could always use it to to comment on the old knight rider as well as the new one.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by KryptonSite
Not a lot of content there yet but I've registered and put up http://www.kittsite.com .

I think an editorial piece might be a good thing to start with ;)

Wow, you took my suggestion. Too bad they messed up so much on the car. I wonder if the series takes hold that sometime down the line KITT will be destroyed and built into a new car? I also wonder if KARR returns if he will also be a Mustang or another car (hopefully he will be a black Camaro)? I hope Peter Cullen returns as KARR's voice.

The Camaro has the perfect spot for the scanner (right above the grill) and has the familiar F-body design that the Trans Ams & Camaros have had:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4039/camarone0.jpg

[PHOENIXZERO]

I could've sworn I posted here either yesterday or the day before... O_o

Anyway, not really digging the retro Mustang design or the incredibly lazy looking "Attack Mode" (WTF) which the most noticeable thing being the stupid spoiler that looks like something a teenager that's watched the Fast and the Furious one too many times for the new KITT but at least the show isn't a remake and this it's not the same KITT. Annoyed with the continuing use of nano technology that NBC has seemed to have a fetish with since the days of Viper. But if the movie does make it to a series and does well, I certainly see them going ahead and using the next model of the Mustang that I think it the 2010 model due out in 2009. It looks a little better at least. Oh and I think they did go to GM and they weren't interested.

[03 kal-el]

the first knight rider teaser trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4LT3qWC6QY

[PHOENIXZERO]

I saw it at KRO a few days ago and it hasn't relieved my suspicion of this being anything but a two hour Ford commercial, especially at the end of that teaser zooming in on the logo. >_<

Oh and I finally did a search regarding GE and Nanotechnology and as I expected, GE does have an investment in it. Maybe I'm reaching but to me that explains the hard-on NBC has had for it since at least the days of Viper which only lasted a season on NBC before it became a syndicated show, just like Bionic Woman or well a half season.

As much as I want this to succeed, I dunno right now if it'll hurt my "feelings" any if it doesn't get picked up for a series. At least it shouldn't be Knight Rider 2000 bad.

[Randy G.]

Yahoo has a feature story this morning, on this issue. "New KITT versus the classic." (http://www.yahoo.com/s/772431)
It even breaks down the specs of the two cars in comparison. I could not hold my tongue. I posted the following review on the site (or call it a "rant" if you will)......


I always considered myself to be open-minded...... until now. I don't care how well the new KITT may perform. Created "fantasy" specs don't impress me. No offense intended to Mustang lovers, but having grown up watching the original Knight Rider, the new car looks simply ridiculous. Who cares if the Mustang is the "it" car right now? The original KITT was sleek looking, and had personality. An updated tricked-out Trans Am, complete with that menacing red scanning light, would have preserved the integrity of Knight Rider. Selling out to commercialism seems like the popular thing to do today.
Congrats on taking the easy way out guys. Hope your movie/series does well with the younger crowd, and Oh Yeah..... hope you sell alot of Mustangs.

[STFanatic]

I will still give it a chance, at least they didn't pick a minivan :p

[Randy G.]

That is too funny! I just pictured KITT as a minivan. :eek: :lol:

[STFanatic]

If they used a Dodge Ram pickup, he could go around helping people move as well as catch criminals :p

[HalJordan4184]

How is KITT being a mustang a bad thing. Other than Nostalgia, and some people's hate for all things Ford, there hasn't been one reason KITT actually couldn't be a Mustang. Like all things it's a preference. I too watched the original Knight Rider. I love the original Knight Rider. I still watch the series on DVD.

Part of KITT in the original series, was he was designed to look futuristic, and like he was the next gen car. Whether some of us like it or not, the new Mustangs, are what's coming out, and selling. It is a popular car. Is it what I envisioned for KITT, not exactly. Then again, why do I want to watch a new Knight Rider, that is exactly like the old one. I want something new, that isn't just a suped up trans am. I liked the original KITT, but this isn't the original KITT. This is the Three Thousand series processor. I want to see how this car and show does, before I denounce it on the fact Glan Larson isn't on board, and the car isn't a Trans-Am.

Regarding Will Arnett, I doubt the car is going to be a comedian simply because Will Arnett is known for comedic roles. I actually rather like the voice. He's a new car. William Daniels voicing him wouldn't make sense to me, because he's the voice of the original. If the original KITT were to be on, I'd be all for WD voicing him. But the new car, being just that, a new car, needs a new voice, and look, to show that it isn't the original KITT.

[KryptonSite]

I was just watching the original Knight Rider pilot, and it crossed my mind... if Mike Tracer is 25 (ish) years old, wouldn't he be the son of Michael *Long* rather than Michael Knight?

It'd be cool if he were the son of Michael Knight and Stevie Mason, too... though most people reading might not know who Stevie Mason even is. ;) I know though that Mike Tracer's mother does factor in to the pilot script, so it ain't Stevie, since she died in one of the final episodes of the original show.

Also... if Arnett's KITT isn't the KITT we all know... could that mean the real KITT (with William Daniels) is out there someplace?

I also wish Hasselhoff would be a series regular. As I hear it he's only in one scene of the pilot. Though he's not killed.

[slayfan]

OMG!! I have been so excited about this show comming out and now I dont know. The car looks horrible. To me it's like re-making Dukes of Hazzard without the Dodge Charger. If GM wasnt' on board with them using the Trans-am or Camaro (Which would be my choice) they could have at least attemted to find a car that was somewhat similar in design. Long and sleek, WITH A SCANNER. Being a woman with little car knowledge I can't think of anyting off the top of my head but I know all your car enthusists out there can think of many.

Knight Rider was my favorite show when I was little and remained my favorite (Even in reruns) until Buffy and Smallville came along, so if they mess this up I will be really, really upset. (May have to boycott NBC if it's destroyed) The only good thing I can hold on to is that JB who will play Mike T. is a really good actor (and totally hot). I used to watch him on AMC and he was totally wasted there so I think he can handle the part. I don't understand why his name isn't Knight though. I know it's probably his mothers name but to me he should be Knight with a different first name, Jamie Knight, Ethan Knight, Michael Knight Jr., Anything Knight.

I also hope that DH becomes a recurring guest star if it becomes a series. Could be fun to watch him give the kid tips or develop a relationship like M's was with Devon. Anyway this was just my opinion but I am really hoping they are doing this right and will make a good show out of it.

[STFanatic]

I don't mind the car being a Ford, I know it is an upgrade, and KITT was not really the car but an interactive construct (hmmm) built into the car.

I wonder if they considered an H3?

[HalJordan4184]

If they had put an H3 in there, I would have complained about that.

As it stands, the Mustang is what we have. I refuse to boycott the show or complain up a storm, until we actually see how this thing works out. Like I said, the Mustang wasn't my first choice, but i think the car looks kind of cool, and Attack Mode, looks about as silly to me, as Super Pursuit Mode did in the Fourth Season. It's just something I'll have to live with.

[slayfan]

The only way I would boycott the show is if it turns out to be really bad. I plan to give it a shot, I was just disappointed to hear about the car. Who knows maybe we will all really love the new KITT. The thing that could destroy it is bad writing, I hope they don't do a complete overhaul and ruin it. This has been known to happen with other shows and when I heard about the car it just got me worried about what else they are changing.

p.s. I just read a write-up on the script and it looks like it will be pretty good. By the sounds of it they are trying to stay true to its roots while updating what needs to be to bring it into the new generation.

[Njdeh_S]

I saw the trailer, hmm Ill have to watch the pilot before I judge but it looks decent

[03 kal-el]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQpWHQrI-xs

heres the second preview if any of you here hasnt seen it yet

[Antithesis]

I hope it turns out good. The Knight Rider franchise has been treated very poorly over the past decade and a half.

One thing I'm worried about is how they are handling the original KITT. It better not be like in KR2000 where he was mothballed and dismantled. That would be totally disrespectful. I normally try to give things a chance, but if they did that I would have to boycott the rest.

[03 kal-el]

another preview 2 minute

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IMot-V6XZM

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Randy G.
Yahoo has a feature story this morning, on this issue. "New KITT versus the classic." (http://www.yahoo.com/s/772431)
It even breaks down the specs of the two cars in comparison. I could not hold my tongue. I posted the following review on the site (or call it a "rant" if you will)......


I always considered myself to be open-minded...... until now. I don't care how well the new KITT may perform. Created "fantasy" specs don't impress me. No offense intended to Mustang lovers, but having grown up watching the original Knight Rider, the new car looks simply ridiculous. Who cares if the Mustang is the "it" car right now? The original KITT was sleek looking, and had personality. An updated tricked-out Trans Am, complete with that menacing red scanning light, would have preserved the integrity of Knight Rider. Selling out to commercialism seems like the popular thing to do today.
Congrats on taking the easy way out guys. Hope your movie/series does well with the younger crowd, and Oh Yeah..... hope you sell alot of Mustangs.

Thank you Randy! That's what I've been saying. I have always wanted to see the last Trans Am model (2002 was the final year) be modded into KITT & KARR. That model was much sleeker than the 1982 model they used (which was awesome) and would have been great. I remember finding someone's website who posted a hypothetical KR movie with Duchovny as Michael, Connery as Devon, etc and made a photo of that final model Trans Am with a scanner & it looked really nice.

If they wanted a new car, they should have used the upcoming Camaro. If you check out the photo of it I posted, the front looks very suitable for KITT. The opening where the could mount the scanner is the same shape as the '82 Trans Am. A black Camaro with that scanner would look great. The only difference would be not having the hidden headlights (which I thought contributed to KITT's sleekness).

Originally posted by slayfan
If GM wasnt' on board with them using the Trans-am or Camaro (Which would be my choice) they could have at least attemted to find a car that was somewhat similar in design. Long and sleek, WITH A SCANNER. Being a woman with little car knowledge I can't think of anyting off the top of my head but I know all your car enthusists out there can think of many.

Out of the new/upcoming cars, the Camaro was definitely the perfect choice. I don't know why GM didn't want it. It would have been great publicity for the Camaro even if they would have taken all Chevy logos off the car (which I hope they would have done).

Instead, the KITT we're getting is nothing but a marketing ploy with Ford's & Mustang's logos & ornaments left on. And the car just looks like some punk in highschool tricked it out (like one of those crappy cars from The Fast & The Furious).

[slayfan]

Completely agree, it does look like something from F&F, or that a teenager would build. I also agree there shouldn't been any identifing logo's on it. When people see KITT they should be like "What the h*** was that?" Not "Oh look at that Mustang."

[HalJordan4184]

Why? Doesn't anyone else remember the first season of Knight Rider, when everyone kept pointing out how cool Michael's Trans Am was? In "Trust Doesn't Rust", KITT even tells Michael, they need to stop KARR, because he's gonna give Trans Am a bad reputation. The only reason KITT wasn't continually referred to as a Trans Am in the series, was that too many people were asking Pontiac when the Knight Rider edition of the Trans Am was coming. When they realized Knight Rider WASN'T an hour long Trans Am commercial, and there was no KITT version coming out, they were actually mad.

I actually prefer the car have some markings. It's rediculous to take a car, remove all the markings, put a big scanner light in the front, and then pretend it's not that kind of car, and think someone just happened to design a car, totally in secret, that just happens to coincide with a production car that came out at the same time.

[slayfan]

I had heard about people trying to buy Trans ams that looked like KITT and therefore GM asked them to stop calling it a TA. I always get a little chuckle when in later seasons everyone calls it 'that black t-top'. So I'm not saying that they pretend it's not a mustang, just that it not have logo's all over it. If you notice in Season one of KR once they made Mike's car into KITT it no longer had ANY GM logo's on it and at that point they were still calling it a TA. I always thought KITT looked sleek and stealthy. So to have logo's on it is like seeing a ninja with his name lettered on his black outfit. Well that's my opinion anyway.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by HalJordan4184
Why? Doesn't anyone else remember the first season of Knight Rider, when everyone kept pointing out how cool Michael's Trans Am was? In "Trust Doesn't Rust", KITT even tells Michael, they need to stop KARR, because he's gonna give Trans Am a bad reputation. The only reason KITT wasn't continually referred to as a Trans Am in the series, was that too many people were asking Pontiac when the Knight Rider edition of the Trans Am was coming. When they realized Knight Rider WASN'T an hour long Trans Am commercial, and there was no KITT version coming out, they were actually mad.

I actually prefer the car have some markings. It's rediculous to take a car, remove all the markings, put a big scanner light in the front, and then pretend it's not that kind of car, and think someone just happened to design a car, totally in secret, that just happens to coincide with a production car that came out at the same time.

I'm with Slayfan. I liked how it didn't have the markings and didn't mind it in the first season when they called KITT a Trans Am. I wouldn't mind it if they did the same in the new show (called him a Mustang) if the markings would be taken off. Leaving the markings on just seems like a cheap marketing ploy. Especially when the car is the showcase & focus of the series.

The original series never gave me the impression that FLAG just happened to build a car that looks like a Trans Am. Instead, they took one & suped it up and made it nearly indestructible and added a computer that would drive the car itself (among several other functions). By removing the logos, decals, etc, they made it more convincing that the car (even though it was a huge modification of the Trans Am) was a special project and not some model available to your average joe.

[STFanatic]

I just watched the original pilot, the Trans Am was Micheal Long's car before he was shot, the Knight foundation used his car to build KITT into.

The pilot brought back a lot of memories, I loved Michel's first ride in KITT :lol:

I really don't mind the car being a Mustang or a Yugo, it is not a retelling of the original series, but a continuation.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by slayfan
If you notice in Season one of KR once they made Mike's car into KITT it no longer had ANY GM logo's on it and at that point they were still calling it a TA. I always thought KITT looked sleek and stealthy. So to have logo's on it is like seeing a ninja with his name lettered on his black outfit. Well that's my opinion anyway.

Actually, Michael's car was not made into KITT. Devon in Knight of the Phoenix says that the similarity between Michael Long's car & KITT is superficial. They had to leave that car in the desert so that the authorities believed the dead body they put in the desert (the one they took from the hospital that Devon mentioned to Wilton Knight) was Michael. More evidence of this is KARR. KARR was built before the events of Knight of the Phoenix and was also a Trans Am. So they used a Trans Am to build KARR before Michael Long was ever shot by Tanya (when he was driving his own Trans Am) and used an identical car (Trans Am) to build KITT. This proves that what Devon told Michael in Knight of the Phoenix is true.

[STFanatic]

I think the reason people (including myself) think it was his, is because Micheal kept saying it was his.
Although the whole time I was thinking.. "Hey, the total interior is different, the sound(s) the car made when running were totally not normal at all, how in the world would anyone confuse the two vehicles based only on the make and color?".
Then again, he was just recovering from a gunshot to the head :p

[HalJordan4184]

Mihale kept saying it was his, but Devon kept telling him it wasn't. Also, the Knight foundation did not build KITT out of a TransAm. They actually designed the super, car of the future, and when all was said and done, it just happened to be almost identical, to the Pontiac TransAm. This pretty much just happened though, because the show did not have the budget to go out, and design a totally unique automobile, to use as the car of the future. So they just took one of the most sleek, and futuristic looking cars of the time, the 1982 TransAm special edition, and made some body and interior modifications.

Essentially, KITT and KARR weren't TransAm's. Especially as in the shows timeline, and when production was, actually preclude either car from being a TransAm, as they weren't in production until after the pilot was completed. NBC/Universal received the first two cars off the assembly line, to shoot the KITT scenes of the pilot. When KITT and KARR were being designed, there were no TransAm's that looked like they did.

[xrayvision]

Mihale kept saying it was his, but Devon kept telling him it wasn't. Also, the Knight foundation did not build KITT out of a TransAm. They actually designed the super, car of the future, and when all was said and done, it just happened to be almost identical, to the Pontiac TransAm. This pretty much just happened though, because the show did not have the budget to go out, and design a totally unique automobile, to use as the car of the future. So they just took one of the most sleek, and futuristic looking cars of the time, the 1982 TransAm special edition, and made some body and interior modifications.

Essentially, KITT and KARR weren't TransAm's. Especially as in the shows timeline, and when production was, actually preclude either car from being a TransAm, as they weren't in production until after the pilot was completed. NBC/Universal received the first two cars off the assembly line, to shoot the KITT scenes of the pilot. When KITT and KARR were being designed, there were no TransAm's that looked like they did.

So what you're saying is that what KITT meant in Trust Doesn't Rust about KARR giving Trans Am a bad name was that because KARR (and KITT) looked like a Trans Am, that they were going to give it a bad name? I don't know. Michael Long was definitely driving a Trans Am. The Pilot could have been set after the 82 Trans Am Special Edition was being sold to the public even though it was shot before then. Otherwise, it wouldn't make sense why Michael Long would be driving one. You could be right that KITT was not a Trans Am and just looked like one. But if that's the case, I think the reasoning would be that Wilton Knight liked the look of the new Trans Am and molded/designed KITT & KARR based off the Trans Am's general shape and made massive modifications and additions (like the dash, the steering wheel, scanner, voice modulator, all the buttons & gadgets, etc). The only thing that looked like the Trans Am were the seats, and the general shape of the car (such as the hood scoop, the hub caps, etc).

Either way, I'm 100% certain that his Trans Am was not built into KITT.

[slayfan]

Okay, I never really thought too much about whether KITT was made from Michael's car or not, I just believed Michael when he said that it was his car and he knew his car when he saw it. Of course I was like five at the time so maybe that can be excused. I just want to get back to the point that whenever the car was made (Before or after Mike got shot) it doesn't change the fact that it wasn't lettered up or have logo's on it.

[warriorrenegade]

Just think it could've been worse. It could've "transformed".

[HalJordan4184]

No, I'm not saying Michael's car was made into KITT, just as far as the Knight Rider timeline goes, KITT and KARR just happened to end up looking like a TransAm, though they actually weren't supposed to be TransAms.

[PHOENIXZERO]

Do you guys really need a kittsite.com? O_o There's already several established Knight Rider related sites.


Yahoo has a feature story this morning, on this issue. "New KITT versus the classic." (http://www.yahoo.com/s/772431)
It even breaks down the specs of the two cars in comparison. I could not hold my tongue. I posted the following review on the site (or call it a "rant" if you will)......


I always considered myself to be open-minded...... until now. I don't care how well the new KITT may perform. Created "fantasy" specs don't impress me. No offense intended to Mustang lovers, but having grown up watching the original Knight Rider, the new car looks simply ridiculous. Who cares if the Mustang is the "it" car right now? The original KITT was sleek looking, and had personality. An updated tricked-out Trans Am, complete with that menacing red scanning light, would have preserved the integrity of Knight Rider. Selling out to commercialism seems like the popular thing to do today.
Congrats on taking the easy way out guys. Hope your movie/series does well with the younger crowd, and Oh Yeah..... hope you sell alot of Mustangs.



That Popular Mechanics article took things that were just "brainstorming" jokes about the new KITT's abilities and completely missed that. It's not a real comparison of what the new KITT is capable of or the original for that matter.



Here's a new "valet" promo that was released earlier this week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZa6g6ic3ho

While I'm still not thrilled with the corporate side of things and I'm occasionally referring to the TV Movie was Ford Rider presented by GE or along those lines. But the car itself doesn't bother me as much, it certainly looks better in motion.

GM wasn't interested, so everyone needs to get over it, it's not the same KITT anyway, if it was then I really would hate it. They weren't going to use an old car as the "star" of the show seeing as they would still need to get permission to use the vehicle on screen and it'd likely be much more of a hassle for stunts not to mention cost.

Also, the new Camaro isn't even coming out for like another year and the rights to use it might be locked up by Paramount. GM created a copy of the car specifically for Transformers with a fiberglass body. NBC did go to GM and GM wasn't interested, they might have even asked to use the Camero, despite it not being out for a good while but still GM wasn't interested.

TV has a MUCH MUCH smaller budget than a major Hollywood blockbuster so they needed not only a car that fit the requirements of what they needed for what the car would be used for and what it would be doing. Plus again due to the limited budget of television, the car pretty much had to cost them nothing (which also means more of a budget for special effects) to keep production cost down. Ford stepped up to the plate and gave them six cars on top of a large sum of money. Yeah, I don't like the commercial aspect that's tied in with it but I understand the reasoning. But there aren't a whole lot of four seater, American muscle cars with steel bodies being produced anymore.

Pontiac absolutely HATED the attention Knight Rider brought them which was the reason for the whole Black T-Top thing and after the show was done pretty much all the cars used were destroyed, due to Pontiac's demands. So on the bright side, at least Ford is on board and giving support.


I still have a lot of other questions/misgivings that are nagging me and I'm hoping are unfounded or if my suspicions are accurate, are addressed in a logical and good manner. I'm about to at least get one answered in a bit. Examples would be, if Molecular Bonded Shell is being replaced by the over used nanotech (I hope not), if they're going to explain the apparent downgrade from the original KITT when it comes to the engine or the worse gas mileage. IIRC, the original KITT got somewhere around 200MPG while the new car gets 140MPG.


Another link: http://jalopnik.com/340660/how-kitt-became-a-mustang

[STFanatic]

I don't mind KiTT being a Ford.

In fact, I had the thought that it would be pretty cool if they had several vehicles set up for KiTT, from a Semi truck to a motorcycle, and since KiTT is an AI, he could be loaded onto an advanced type of Jump Drive and inserted into any of those vehicles to be used as the mission required.
That would be cool :D

[last man of krypton]

Hadn't paid much attention to the show, and only stumbled on the trailer last night. I'm really looking forward to watching it. Loved the original show, and I'm interested in seeing where this'll go. At first I was surprised KITT wasn't sleeker, but it occured to me that the car looked cool anyways. And most importantly; it talks. :)
As for the whole "advertising Mustang" thing, I'm not fussed. In fact, I wouldn't have even known what type of car it was if I hadn't scanned through the posts here (I'm not much of a car person). Furthermore, how many people are going to rush out and buy a Mustang solely based on this show? If people do, they were likely to buy one based on the look/build, and the brand name just makes it easier to find. Personally, I think it'll add a touch of realism to the show. Or did everyone buy Nissan Vectras/Versos/whatevers after watching Heroes? :p

[PHOENIXZERO]

Actually, something like that did happen with the TA and Pontiac didn't really like it. Unlike Heroes, the car is a central character of the TV movie and will also be so if it makes it to a series.

I've been told a little bit about an early draft of the script but hopefully some things were changed or improved upon after everything got set in place and were able to revise it more so than just changing the last name of the scientist and his daughter. Especially after Ford came on board, which I'm sure really helped the budget.

Apparently Mike's last name is Traceur and not just Tracer for whatever reason. Maybe it's a thing with his mother and whatever her family origins are. Or maybe they realized Ford which has the Mercury line, has (or had, dunno if they're still made) a "family" of cars called the Tracer. :D

[slayfan]

You know now that I've had time to let the mustang thing sink in and I've seen a few teasers and promo's I'm not minding it so much (except for the massive scanner thing... i'm saving final judgement until I see it for longer than 30 seconds). phonexzero is right, at least Ford was willing give as much as they did. Hopefully we see good results on screen because of it.

[xrayvision]

Here's a new "valet" promo that was released earlier this week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZa6g6ic3ho

I don't mind the new voice for KITT, but I just don't like the attitude change.

While I'm still not thrilled with the corporate side of things and I'm occasionally referring to the TV Movie was Ford Rider presented by GE or along those lines. But the car itself doesn't bother me as much, it certainly looks better in motion.

It does look better in motion. It's those stationary shots I'm not crazy about. The scanner really looks horrible.

GM wasn't interested, so everyone needs to get over it, it's not the same KITT anyway, if it was then I really would hate it. They weren't going to use an old car as the "star" of the show seeing as they would still need to get permission to use the vehicle on screen and it'd likely be much more of a hassle for stunts not to mention cost.

It would be more expensive trying to find old cars for the stunts and everything since they went through many to do the original show. Are there any websites that show that GM wasn't interested? I find it hard to believe that with their current sales that they wouldn't be interested.

Also you're saying it's not the same KITT. I know the KITT acronym was changed and now stands for Knight Industries Three Thousand. I also noticed a new voice for this new KITT. I'm guessing this KITT has none of the memory of the original and is a completely new program. I was originally led to believe that this would be KITT III. By this, I mean KITT I was the KITT from the pilot (Knight of the Phoenix) up to the episode Junk Yard Dog where KITT was completely destroyed (actually dissolved) with the exception of some small fragments of memory. Bonnie even said that KITT would have to be recreated. KITT II would be the recreated KITT that was there from Junk Yard Dog throughout the rest of the original series and in the Knight Rider 2000 movie. So I thought that this would be KITT III meaning that it would have the same voice & all the memories of the original KITT with all new functions added on to the KITT program. So the KITT program would have all the same functions plus many new ones, along with the original memories and would be housed in a new car. But instead of being KITT III, based on how I'm interpreting what you said, it seems like it is a whole new KITT built from scratch.

Also, the new Camaro isn't even coming out for like another year and the rights to use it might be locked up by Paramount. GM created a copy of the car specifically for Transformers with a fiberglass body. NBC did go to GM and GM wasn't interested, they might have even asked to use the Camero, despite it not being out for a good while but still GM wasn't interested.

Was the Camaro in the Transformers movie? I haven't seen it yet. Maybe they're planning to use it for a sequel? I know what you're saying. The Camaro resembles the classic look of KITT much more than the Mustang, but if it wasn't available, then there's no use talking about it anymore.

TV has a MUCH MUCH smaller budget than a major Hollywood blockbuster so they needed not only a car that fit the requirements of what they needed for what the car would be used for and what it would be doing. Plus again due to the limited budget of television, the car pretty much had to cost them nothing (which also means more of a budget for special effects) to keep production cost down. Ford stepped up to the plate and gave them six cars on top of a large sum of money. Yeah, I don't like the commercial aspect that's tied in with it but I understand the reasoning. But there aren't a whole lot of four seater, American muscle cars with steel bodies being produced anymore.

I guess it makes sense why they went with Ford since they removed a huge amount of the production costs. I just wish one condition was that the Mustang ornaments and labels had to be removed.

Pontiac absolutely HATED the attention Knight Rider brought them which was the reason for the whole Black T-Top thing and after the show was done pretty much all the cars used were destroyed, due to Pontiac's demands. So on the bright side, at least Ford is on board and giving support.

I know about all of this. I do wonder if the Trans Am was still being produced if Pontiac would be against it. I somehow doubt it. If the Camaro was used for Transformers and the Trans Am would still be made and available for them to use, I don't see why GM wouldn't allow it to be showcased as the show's car. It would definitely help them sell many more cars. Back in 1982, GM wasn't in the same mess it's in now.

I still have a lot of other questions/misgivings that are nagging me and I'm hoping are unfounded or if my suspicions are accurate, are addressed in a logical and good manner. I'm about to at least get one answered in a bit. Examples would be, if Molecular Bonded Shell is being replaced by the over used nanotech (I hope not), if they're going to explain the apparent downgrade from the original KITT when it comes to the engine or the worse gas mileage. IIRC, the original KITT got somewhere around 200MPG while the new car gets 140MPG.

It would be nice if the molecular bonded shell would be back. But how would nanotech replace it? How could nanotech stop explosives and such from destroying the car?

Also, is this show supposed to take place in the future? Knight Rider 2000 was set in the year 2000 and Michael did not have any wife or kid, at least none that were shown. If he did, he was divorced and his wife was raising the kid on her own because he was clearly single in the movie. So this would mean that he either got married & had a son later (meaning this new show is set in the 2020's), or he divorced his wife or had some illegitimate kid that he didn't know about.

[HalJordan4184]

For all intents and purposes, there is no Knight Rider 2000. THe movie was horrible anyway, and even David Hasselhoff regretted making it.

This show, is a literal continuation of the original series, and ignores Knight Rider 2000. The car, is not the original Kitt, or even a remake of the original KITT. This car is an entirely new program and AI. Even in the original, when KITT was remade, they used his backup memory banks, so he still had the original programming. When they had to rebuild KITT, they pretty much were just referring to the physical KITT, not the program itself.

This is the Knight Industries Three Thousand. A new car, for a new generation, essentially. I don't mind any of the attitude or anything we've seen so far, because the original KITT had an attitude. He would also have told the valet to no even think about it, and drove off, like he did to many people during the series.

I will be upset if the MBS is gone. Nanotech could be interesting to supplement the MBS.

As far as Nanotech, and it's overuse... well, it is the technology of the future. KITT is supposed to be the car of the future, so I can understand where Nanotech would fit in. It's not as bad as what some people want. There are people complaining because any pics of the dash we have, didn't have huge keypad buttons all over it, and multiple TV screens. There are those insisting (not necessarily on here) that in order for KITT to look high tech, he has the have a dash similar to the original KITT's. I rather like the pictures out now, and would be okay with that dash, if nothing else was done for it, as that looks more futuristic than he original dash from the show.

[KryptonSite]

When did Hasselhoff ever say he regretted doing KR2000? The only regrets I ever heard of were that people like Patricia McPherson were not involved.

[Randy G.]

Patricia McPherson. :p

[STFanatic]

I was totally enamored with two women on TV, Patricia McPherson and Connie Selleca. :p

[xrayvision]

For all intents and purposes, there is no Knight Rider 2000. THe movie was horrible anyway, and even David Hasselhoff regretted making it.

I don't agree with this. That movie involved 2 of the main KR characters, Michael and Devon. Devon was killed, so I would think that is continuity from the original series. Whether or not they select to keep that portion of the continuity is up to them & their choice. It's similar to how I read Superman Returns was supposed to take place after Superman II and ignored the events of Superman III & IV even though those are officially regarded as continuity in the Chris Reeve Superman movies.

Although, I read at some places that KR2000 takes place in an alternate year 2000. I'm not sure if this description was recently made because the events of the year 2000 in the movie were nothing like the events in the actual year 2000 or if this description was made at the time the movie was released. It wouldn't make sense if they released a movie in an alternate universe, especially when that movie was supposed to pilot another KR series that never happened. I even read that the viewership was pretty good but that the network just never followed through with it. Maybe the description was changed to "alternate year 2000" after the Team Knight Rider show came out and they were considering bringing back Devon (unfortunately Edward Mulhare passed away in 1997).

What is really bad about them ignoring all these other storylines (even that of Team Knight Rider) is that Michael Knight's disappearance was starting to be explored in Team Knight Rider towards the end right when it got cancelled and several interesting developments could have come about.

This show, is a literal continuation of the original series, and ignores Knight Rider 2000. The car, is not the original Kitt, or even a remake of the original KITT. This car is an entirely new program and AI. Even in the original, when KITT was remade, they used his backup memory banks, so he still had the original programming. When they had to rebuild KITT, they pretty much were just referring to the physical KITT, not the program itself.

I disagree about them not rebuilding KITT's program. After they recreated him in Junk Yard Dog, he was not the same as he was originally. I agree that they probably did have his memory backed up so he could have regained his experiences back thanks to a backup copy. But they spent a considerable amount of time on him. I think if it was only a duplication of a backed up KITT program to a new hard drive that KITT would have rebounded much quicker than he did. He did have a fear of being destroyed again due to his restored memory, but the problems were more than that. KITT acted much differently the first time Michael encountered him after being recreated and the next time he encountered KITT on the obstacle course. So I do think they had to recreate the program from scratch and load the previous stored memory. Bonnie was concerned prior to undertaking the KITT recreation project of the possibility that they could fail in making the program become KITT again.

This is the Knight Industries Three Thousand. A new car, for a new generation, essentially. I don't mind any of the attitude or anything we've seen so far, because the original KITT had an attitude. He would also have told the valet to no even think about it, and drove off, like he did to many people during the series.

Yeah, KITT did have an attitude. I just think the new KITT seems cocky compared to the old one who had confidence but did not go overboard.


I will be upset if the MBS is gone. Nanotech could be interesting to supplement the MBS.

They should keep the MBS.

As far as Nanotech, and it's overuse... well, it is the technology of the future. KITT is supposed to be the car of the future, so I can understand where Nanotech would fit in. It's not as bad as what some people want. There are people complaining because any pics of the dash we have, didn't have huge keypad buttons all over it, and multiple TV screens. There are those insisting (not necessarily on here) that in order for KITT to look high tech, he has the have a dash similar to the original KITT's. I rather like the pictures out now, and would be okay with that dash, if nothing else was done for it, as that looks more futuristic than he original dash from the show.

I don't care too much about the dash. That's one of the less important things to me. I did love the original's dash though.

I am wondering though what weaknesses the new KITT will have. They have to make the show interesting.

I also wonder if they will ever have the old KITT show up to save the day if the new KITT is ever in deep trouble. And one of the things I'm looking most forward to is KARR. They should make season 1's main plot the rebuilding of KARR. I wonder if KARR will also be a Mustang (keeping the twins thing going). The problem for KARR will be that he won't have the upgrades, so the new KITT will have many more functions compared to KARR. Unless whoever took KARR's CPU knows stuff about computers and will upgrade him as well.

[PHOENIXZERO]

It's a bit different ignoring Knight Rider 2000 than what what done with Superman Returns. At the very least, they aren't replacing actors to play the same roles or doing what was done with Superman Returns. I can't say what the new TV movie will be like in regards to the original series, but it's certainly going to be better than KR2000 or TKR. Team Knight Rider was an awful show, the only "high point" of it IMO was KRO.

Knight Rider 2000 did indeed have high ratings, but ratings aren't everything. The movie, including the character of Shawn McCormick tested very very poorly with people. Then when it was aired the movie was received very poorly also. Here's a good article on what happened with KR2000, including quotes from Hasselhoff (or at least his book) and his reaction to it.

http://www.knightriderarchive.com/2000.html


Ignoring KR2000 and TKR is a good thing....

[HalJordan4184]

I supposed I should have prefaced that with an, I heard. It was on one of the knight rider boards I was visiting, and everyone was talking about the new movie, and how everyone was so happy KR 2000 was not considered in any way.

As far KR 2000 is concerned:

KR 2000, just, missed it. It was a good attempt, but it didn't work. It didn't have the Knight Rider feel to me, and many other fans. I'm more than happy to have a show that ignores those events, and just continues. Even in 1991 some of the things they did with 2000 didn't make sense. That world never came to be, and pretending it did, would only hurt the new movie, and possible series, IMO.

[krpto]

When I got my first season dvd And I first saw K.A.R.R. that I some how forgot about I Imediately thought If they ever remake Knight Rider Karr should be a red Lambourgini Diablo.

[PHOENIXZERO]

No.... Just no...... IF they somehow ever bring back KARR (which they shouldn't) then they've completely run out of ideas. KARR was completely destroyed, his CPU might have remained somewhat intact but after over 20 years, no.... It just wouldn't work.

[STFanatic]

So you think KARR might get a Windows "Blue Screen of Death" error? :lol:

[slayfan]

phonexizero - thanks for the link it was very interesting. It reminded me how much I hated that red peice of crap they tried to sell us on. You know after seeing the photo's of it I now really don't mind the mustang, at least it's black. Also in comparison the storyline of the new movie looks waaay more promising than KR2000, which in my opinion sucked. I did like the sounds of the original movie that DH wanted to produce, they should have stuck to that.

[HalJordan4184]

I wouldn't mind a KARR episode, if it was done right. They left it open for KARR to return later in the original series, and I always thought, as cliched as this would be, that Garth and KARR should take on Michael and KITT.

If this did go to series, I would think that could be an awesome storyline to bring Michael and KITT back onto the show for one last ride.

[xrayvision]

No.... Just no...... IF they somehow ever bring back KARR (which they shouldn't) then they've completely run out of ideas. KARR was completely destroyed, his CPU might have remained somewhat intact but after over 20 years, no.... It just wouldn't work.

I would be pissed if they didn't bring KARR back. His cpu did remain intact, which is what the blinking LED's implied. With the technology they have now, they could easily have backed his program up and added more functions and place him inside another car. There's no reason the KARR program wouldn't work.

This is what I strongly suggest this new show do:

1. Set it up so that it's revealed that Garth Knight had a son he did not know about before he died (by falling with Goliath off that cliff). Garth's son throughout season 1 would learn about his father's imprisonment (perhaps from his grandmother, Elizabeth Knight--the actress I believe is still alive; she was in a 7th Heaven episode according to tv.com) and would want to avenge his father because he thinks what happened to his father was a travesty. His grandmother would hook him up with her portion of the Knight family fortune and the season would be set up to have Garth's son do battle with Michael's son.

2. Have Garth's son learn about Knight Industries and about the original KITT along with KARR, Goliath and the entire FLAG program. He would also learn about Mike Tracer's role with FLAG (or whatever the organization is now called) and about the new KITT. He would then realize that to avenge his father, he would need a similar vehicle/weapon to destroy Mike's car (the new KITT). He eventually comes in contact with an old FLAG employee who felt betrayed and was also out for revenge. It is revealed that this person is none other than April Curtis. She tells him how she has spent years using the little funds she had to rebuild KARR after finding his cpu in the desert. Garth's son's eyes light up and so begins the quest to rebuild and update KARR.

These 2 things is what a die-hard fan of the original show would love to see.

[PHOENIXZERO]

I've thought of the Garth angle with his getting a hold of KARR as well as I'm sure many have. Yeah his CPU might have survived and for whatever reason the Foundation didn't get a hold of it after he was destroyed and kept it, it might for whatever reason have been lost after the original show, but it's just stretching things too far. I could see their work on trying to reprogram it but maybe being unable to due to it being"hard coded" of it into his CPU. Maybe the plans for the new KITT were stolen and they'd go the "twin" route again. But I dunno, it would have to be an amazingly well written episode.

As for Garth having kids, I was thinking about that last night, remember there's also his sister Jennifer too. I dunno, as long as Garth remains dead, we don't need Hasslehoff with a soul patch again, heh. Anyway, shortly before the events of Goliath Returns Garth had a fling with some woman who ended up having twins, a girl and a boy. Their mother, ashamed of who Garth was didn't tell them who there father is until they were older, the son having this notion that his father was really the good guy left home and adopted "Knight" as a surname. He tried to get his sister to join him but she refused so he leaves and she stays, the brother and sister's relationship is strained. So then several years go by and she starts working for a company that does business for the FLAG where she meets Mike, she becomes a semi-regular and they at some point start dating. Neither of them know that their fathers were enemies until the day her brother finally emerges as part of a group that's gone to break into FLAG to steal their secrets and that leads to Mike having to hunt them down. He catches what he thinks is all of them and recovers the missing data/merchandise or most of it... He and KITT somehow miss "Garth Jr" (who would look nothing like him, especially since they share no DNA) who gets into an awaiting vehicle. The voice ask him if he got it to which he replies with what he got, the items include the formula for the Knight Compound/MBS, designs for the new KITT and KARR's CPU. The voice which is that of an old woman says "good" and we get the reveal that it's the now very old and still very pissed Elizabeth Knight! But we still don't know who he is.

It could be a multi-episode arc where they go off to do something else while the "bad guys" get things together. I don't think I need to tell anyone where this would go, it's fairly predictable. The Garth having kids thing would fit with Mike's age perfectly if going by the original air date for the Goliath Returns episode(s).

I'd leave April Curtis out of this, I don't like the idea of her for some reason turning bad. I doubt Rebbecca Holden would even return if that were the case, it just doesn't work for me.. Perhaps Jennifer Knight could have kids of her own and if not be the head of FLAG, be the head still of Knight Industries, if it still exist and there could be friction there.


Everything would be a bit convoluted but as long as the show isn't overly serious, hopefully people would look past it. I could expand on this more but I need sleep.

[Antithesis]

I love both of those ideas, but I do agree about leaving out April Curtis. Granted the show never explained why she left, but there was never anything even slightly alluding to her might being disgruntled.

xrayvision. If they did a story out of your idea, there is an episode of the original called Killer KITT that did have a former scientist who felt slighted and took over KITT. He would be the perfect choice for a story like that.

I also like your idea PHENIXZERO. I think both ideas would work well.

I wouldn't even mind seeing Garth Knight return. You assume he's dead, but I don't think they say for sure in the episode.

[GuardianAngel]

I doubt they'll bring Garth or KARR back... BTW has any information leaked on the fate of the original KITT? I watched a few trailers and in one of them there was a very brief shot of KITT's steering-wheel and KITT seemed disassembled. I really hope I was wrong... it would be so unfair towards the original Knight Rider and Michael's relationship with KITT. They came up with this device in the Knight Rider 2000 movie and it was the thing that bothered me the most and made me hate that movie.

[slayfan]

My hope is that the original KITT is not only intact but that it's still with Michael. Even if he's retired I still hope they are together. (I know I'm probably dreaming.) In fact it would be great if they came in together to save the day and show the new Mike & KITT how it's done. I also hope there is some good stuff between father and son, and if it's turned into a series have DH show up in several episodes as special guest star.

My main pet peeve right now (Since I've finally started to accept KITT as a mustang) is that the new Mike is not a Knight. I would rather they gave him a different first name and kept Knight. Even if his parents were never married his mother could still have given him his fathers name. I know it's a stupid thing to be hung up on but I am anyway.

[PHOENIXZERO]

Well the steering wheel used in that scene was a version of it from the pilot and the people involved told the guy who sent it and some other parts that it didn't matter. Either they didn't care and it's a rush job or it doesn't matter because it's not KITT. :D

[GuardianAngel]

I do hope we get to see the original KITT, too. But I have the feeling we won't...

[xrayvision]

I've thought of the Garth angle with his getting a hold of KARR as well as I'm sure many have. Yeah his CPU might have survived and for whatever reason the Foundation didn't get a hold of it after he was destroyed and kept it, it might for whatever reason have been lost after the original show, but it's just stretching things too far. I could see their work on trying to reprogram it but maybe being unable to due to it being"hard coded" of it into his CPU. Maybe the plans for the new KITT were stolen and they'd go the "twin" route again. But I dunno, it would have to be an amazingly well written episode.

As for Garth having kids, I was thinking about that last night, remember there's also his sister Jennifer too. I dunno, as long as Garth remains dead, we don't need Hasslehoff with a soul patch again, heh. Anyway, shortly before the events of Goliath Returns Garth had a fling with some woman who ended up having twins, a girl and a boy. Their mother, ashamed of who Garth was didn't tell them who there father is until they were older, the son having this notion that his father was really the good guy left home and adopted "Knight" as a surname. He tried to get his sister to join him but she refused so he leaves and she stays, the brother and sister's relationship is strained. So then several years go by and she starts working for a company that does business for the FLAG where she meets Mike, she becomes a semi-regular and they at some point start dating. Neither of them know that their fathers were enemies until the day her brother finally emerges as part of a group that's gone to break into FLAG to steal their secrets and that leads to Mike having to hunt them down. He catches what he thinks is all of them and recovers the missing data/merchandise or most of it... He and KITT somehow miss "Garth Jr" (who would look nothing like him, especially since they share no DNA) who gets into an awaiting vehicle. The voice ask him if he got it to which he replies with what he got, the items include the formula for the Knight Compound/MBS, designs for the new KITT and KARR's CPU. The voice which is that of an old woman says "good" and we get the reveal that it's the now very old and still very pissed Elizabeth Knight! But we still don't know who he is.

It could be a multi-episode arc where they go off to do something else while the "bad guys" get things together. I don't think I need to tell anyone where this would go, it's fairly predictable. The Garth having kids thing would fit with Mike's age perfectly if going by the original air date for the Goliath Returns episode(s).

I'd leave April Curtis out of this, I don't like the idea of her for some reason turning bad. I doubt Rebbecca Holden would even return if that were the case, it just doesn't work for me.. Perhaps Jennifer Knight could have kids of her own and if not be the head of FLAG, be the head still of Knight Industries, if it still exist and there could be friction there.


Everything would be a bit convoluted but as long as the show isn't overly serious, hopefully people would look past it. I could expand on this more but I need sleep.

I like this. I think this is a nice way of implementing what I suggested before. If Rebecca Holden would return, perhaps they could show her as a prisoner of Elizabeth Knight's and her people would torture her for information on the original KITT and his design. That way, a team of mechanics/specialists to work on KARR could be assembled.

[Antithesis]

I doubt they'll bring Garth or KARR back... BTW has any information leaked on the fate of the original KITT? I watched a few trailers and in one of them there was a very brief shot of KITT's steering-wheel and KITT seemed disassembled. I really hope I was wrong... it would be so unfair towards the original Knight Rider and Michael's relationship with KITT. They came up with this device in the Knight Rider 2000 movie and it was the thing that bothered me the most and made me hate that movie.

I saw that promo too, and that has me really worried too. If they say anything close to what was said in KR2000, I'll be very pissed. Although if it's something along the lines of "he fought well, but in the end he was destroyed" I can probably deal with it. Character deaths in shows don't bother me as much as pointless deaths.

[KryptonSite]

I do hope we get to see the original KITT, too. But I have the feeling we won't...

If the pilot movie does well, and the reaction to the new Knight Rider is what I expect, we'd probably see Michael and the "real" KITT sooner rather than later... from what I've read, the Hasselhoff cameo is the best part of the movie.

[GuardianAngel]

I hope so, Craig. I just hope it won't be Knight Rider 2000 all over again.... As a huge fan of the original series - I drove my parents mad trying to buy models of KITT in England - I'm praying for more respect towards the original KITT and his relationship with Michael.

BTW I wonder if Bonnie, RC and Devon will be mentioned in any way..

[KryptonSite]

If they follow the continuity of KR2000, Devon would be dead.

Bonnie and RC3 aren't mentioned in the pilot at least; I was actually also hoping the new character might be either the son of Michael and Stevie Mason (born off camera before she died) or be fathered back when he was Michael Long, but apparently no such luck.

(Of course a really wanky fan like myself would care about such things I guess...)

I think another "Knight Rider" element that may be missing here is that Michael Knight was "a man who does not exist"; Mike Traceur obviously does exist. Now, if the pilot had him go through what Michael Long did in the pilot, and renamed him Knight, it would've been cool, although coincidental.

In my own mind, Michael got KITT back sometime after KR2000 and maybe even put him back in his original body. (Though I did like the Knight 4000).

Guess we'll know for ourselves in about three weeks how it all turns out. I'm pretty excited; although, I don't think I'll be doing anything with KITTSite.com after all... I've been way too busy with the TerminatorSite launch, and have two book projects on my plate... not to mention Knight Rider Online really has everything anyone would possibly need, and I don't want to step on their toes.

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If a lot of people are talking about it here on the forum though, I might give it its own section in the forums if it goes to series.

[PHOENIXZERO]

KR2000 doesn't exist in the movie's continuity thankfully. Devon hopefully/probably died of natural causes.

I don't think using Stevie would be a good idea since that just creates a hole that makes things too messed up especially in her last appearance and not saying anything, it'd be very bad for her character not to have even mentioned it, too messy. Though it is odd how conveniently Mike was a childhood friend of the daughter who's father "invented" the original KITT. Which doesn't make much sense since KARR was created first and all. Aside from the different AI, what was there more to invent? I didn't invent the MBS/Knight Compound either so it had to be the AI and maybe KITT's systems.

I still think it'd be better if he was just a product of a one night stand as that manslut Michael was. Or maybe the Foundation knew but never told Michael for Mike's protection and helped out his mother or maybe he found out after the series ended but again for Mike's protection stayed away. What happened with Michael Long I think was also done just so he could operate without having old enemies find out he was still alive and connected to FLAG/Wilton Knight.

Unfortunately I've read that the choice of the Mustang might have really been all on NBC due to the money Ford put up and the suits didn't care what fans or people working on the movie/potential series thought. It's still sort of grown on me a little, would have been much harder to accept if it was just KITT/Knight Industries Two-Thousand AI in a new body ala KR2000. The Dodge Stealth modded to look like a Banshee for the Knight 4000 would have at least looked better if they had made it black.

[KryptonSite]

Who's to say it doesn't exist in the movie continuity? From what I've read it could go either way, it's just not mentioned at all but it's not negated either.

[PHOENIXZERO]

It just makes sense considering how widely hated KR2000 was, Hasselhoff really hated it and only took part because he was concerned that they'd write him out saying that Michael Knight died. I dunno if you checked the link I posted in response earlier but here it is again, maybe you've seen it already or had before:

http://www.knightriderarchive.com/2000.html

I don't think there's any direct confirmation other than saying it's a continuation of the original TV series and no mention of KR2000 but I'm sure that question will come up in an interview. I dunno, the fact that they're "regressing" in their production number/order of the cars with 4000 in 2000 and now 3000 in 2007 I think is a good indication that KR2000 doesn't exist in this version.. If for whatever reason it's apart of the time line then what's stopping the from including the other abomination that is Team Knight Rider, KRO was cool but other than that, not much else. TKR didn't connect to KR2000 either. Including KR2000 (and TKR) would create more problems I think than it would anything else. Maybe it's me but I absolutely hated what they did with Devon, Michael and KITT in that movie.
If it were the original idea for KR2000 maybe I wouldn't mind but what we got was just a complete and total disgrace. Out of all the things I've read about and don't particularly like about this new incarnation (especially the commercialization of it all with the NBC/Ford "marriage") I still think it'll be leaps and bounds better than KR2000.

[GuardianAngel]

^I couldn't agree more. KR2000 was a total disgrace. The only part I liked was when Devon remember his first meeting with Michael and we got to see some footage from the original series, but Devon's death was a shame.
As was the car chosen to be the new KITT. I mean, why red? and that design was way too futuristic. The original KITT may be 25 years old, but I still like the design, the colour (Black) and really everything to it. As a hard KR fan I still find it difficult to look at the Mustang chosen for the new KR. I don't mind the back (which reminds me of the TransAm) but the front and the scanner are awful. I just hope I change my mind after watching the movie in February....
Oh, I almost forgot. I really don't like KITT's new voice. It's scary... it seems more appropriate for KARR!

[PHOENIXZERO]

O_o The only one I think that sounds like KARR is the the 30 second promo that NBC released and did so hastily. That one didn't have Will Arnett providing the voice work as it was apparently something they did before he was cast and they didn't get the needed work from him on it.


Here's a new version of the valet promo, this one has a different end that kind of looks poorly done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyKpUCy95CU

[xrayvision]

If they follow the continuity of KR2000, Devon would be dead.

Bonnie and RC3 aren't mentioned in the pilot at least; I was actually also hoping the new character might be either the son of Michael and Stevie Mason (born off camera before she died) or be fathered back when he was Michael Long, but apparently no such luck.

(Of course a really wanky fan like myself would care about such things I guess...)

I think another "Knight Rider" element that may be missing here is that Michael Knight was "a man who does not exist"; Mike Traceur obviously does exist. Now, if the pilot had him go through what Michael Long did in the pilot, and renamed him Knight, it would've been cool, although coincidental.

In my own mind, Michael got KITT back sometime after KR2000 and maybe even put him back in his original body. (Though I did like the Knight 4000).

Guess we'll know for ourselves in about three weeks how it all turns out. I'm pretty excited; although, I don't think I'll be doing anything with KITTSite.com after all... I've been way too busy with the TerminatorSite launch, and have two book projects on my plate... not to mention Knight Rider Online really has everything anyone would possibly need, and I don't want to step on their toes.

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If a lot of people are talking about it here on the forum though, I might give it its own section in the forums if it goes to series.

You should turn KITTsite into an all Knight Rider forum (Knight Rider, Knight Rider 2000, Team Knight Rider, and Knight Rider (2008)). With the new series starting up, I think there will be renwed interest in the original series.

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I don't think using Stevie would be a good idea since that just creates a hole that makes things too messed up especially in her last appearance and not saying anything, it'd be very bad for her character not to have even mentioned it, too messy. Though it is odd how conveniently Mike was a childhood friend of the daughter who's father "invented" the original KITT. Which doesn't make much sense since KARR was created first and all. Aside from the different AI, what was there more to invent? I didn't invent the MBS/Knight Compound either so it had to be the AI and maybe KITT's systems.

I agree that explaining Mike to be Stevie's son would be too messy. KARR would work, but Mike as Stevie's kid wouldn't. But I'm confused by the rest of what you're saying (Mike was a childhood friend of the daughter who's father "invented" the original KITT). Are you saying Mike was Jennifer Knight's childhood friend (doesn't make sense since she is a generation older than he is)? Or are you trying to say that Mike was a childhood friend of Jennifer Knight's daughter (would make sense if worded differently than you did)?

I still think it'd be better if he was just a product of a one night stand as that manslut Michael was. Or maybe the Foundation knew but never told Michael for Mike's protection and helped out his mother or maybe he found out after the series ended but again for Mike's protection stayed away. What happened with Michael Long I think was also done just so he could operate without having old enemies find out he was still alive and connected to FLAG/Wilton Knight.

I wouldn't find if his mother was Sherri (Anne Lockhart's character) from Good Day at White Rock and his name was changed for his protection. Or if he is the son of Maggie (the hot Pamela Susan Shoop) from Knight of the Phoenix. Both those characters were cool and would be good candidates IMO for his mother.

Unfortunately I've read that the choice of the Mustang might have really been all on NBC due to the money Ford put up and the suits didn't care what fans or people working on the movie/potential series thought. It's still sort of grown on me a little, would have been much harder to accept if it was just KITT/Knight Industries Two-Thousand AI in a new body ala KR2000. The Dodge Stealth modded to look like a Banshee for the Knight 4000 would have at least looked better if they had made it black.

I didn't mind the look of the Knight 4000 (which became KITT once he was placed inside). I would have preferred black over red, but it was better than having KITT in Michael's old Chevy. The Knight 4000 does look a lot like a Banshee (the concept car that was used for the next generation Trans Am that was introduced in 1992). I still think the Banshee, the Dodge Stealth used as KIFT, and the original KITT look much more futuristic (at least from the exterior) than the new KITT. Especially the Banshee (one of the most futuristic cars I've ever seen).

[KryptonSite]

We ARE going to see Mike Traceur's mother in the pilot; but she's no one I've heard of from the original series, unfortunately.

I COULD have KITTSite just linking here... it seems the forum thing is really already covreed online too.

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ETA: Even though I'm not doing anything with KITTSite yet, since there are new promo images I put them up. Including Hasselhoff! http://www.kittsite.com/knightridergallery1.htm

[HalJordan4184]

I'm confused by the rest of what you're saying (Mike was a childhood friend of the daughter who's father "invented" the original KITT). Are you saying Mike was Jennifer Knight's childhood friend (doesn't make sense since she is a generation older than he is)? Or are you trying to say that Mike was a childhood friend of Jennifer Knight's daughter (would make sense if worded differently than you did)?

Wilton Knight did not invent KITT. He funded KITT, and maybe even dreamed up the idea for the car, however, he didn't create the AI, or the body, or anything else. He ponied up the money to get the best technicians, and computer programmers money could buy, to create KITT.

So Mike Tracer was childhood friends with the guy who in the story, was the lead technician/programmer on the original KITT project.

[KryptonSite]

NBC's launched their new official site with even more new pics and videos and stuff --> http://www.nbc.com/Knight_Rider

You know, even though I won't be actively covering this, and though I'm not even sold on the car, I'm still pretty excited by it. I loved me some Knight Rider as a kid.

[xrayvision]

Wilton Knight did not invent KITT. He funded KITT, and maybe even dreamed up the idea for the car, however, he didn't create the AI, or the body, or anything else. He ponied up the money to get the best technicians, and computer programmers money could buy, to create KITT.

So Mike Tracer was childhood friends with the guy who in the story, was the lead technician/programmer on the original KITT project.

I know Wilton didn't build KITT with his own hands. You know what I meant. He bankrolled KITT and first thought about the idea of KITT. The developers of KITT's cpu were revealed in Junk Yard Dog. If I remember correctly, their names were Doctors Vreeland, Forman, and Yamata (there may have been one more). I don't think they worked on the molecular bonded shell though, since in Goliath, it was revealed that only 3 people knew the formula (Devon, and 2 scientists-one of who was killed in Rio by Elizabeth Knight). It's possible the other scientist mentioned in Goliath (the one said to be vacationing in Switzerland) was one of the scientists who recreated KITT in Junk Yard Dog. I have to check it out again to see if the name matches.

I'm not sure if out of those 3, maybe 4 people who created the original KITT if any of them was a lead or if they all played an equal part. I don't know. But you're saying something different than what PHOENIXZERO said (that Mike was childhood friends with the daughter of the lead developer of KITT). You're saying that he was friends with the lead developer himself. It would be weird if he was friendly with a brilliant scientist as a kid himself (unless Mike is a computer whiz himself). I guess we'll have to wait. But if what you're saying is true, then the identity of the lead developer better turn out to be the same as one of the guys seen in Junk Yard Dog, or else it is a retcon.

[KryptonSite]

Unfortunately I think they're going to forget a lot of the details... which wouldn't be hard to match... there might be legal reasons for that too, ie, not wanting to pay royalties to Glen Larson or whoever wrote the original episodes specifically... I don't know.

I wonder if we'll see the "real" KITT in flashback... more than just the steering wheel.

[PHOENIXZERO]

I'm not sure if out of those 3, maybe 4 people who created the original KITT if any of them was a lead or if they all played an equal part. I don't know. But you're saying something different than what PHOENIXZERO said (that Mike was childhood friends with the daughter of the lead developer of KITT). You're saying that he was friends with the lead developer himself. It would be weird if he was friendly with a brilliant scientist as a kid himself (unless Mike is a computer whiz himself). I guess we'll have to wait. But if what you're saying is true, then the identity of the lead developer better turn out to be the same as one of the guys seen in Junk Yard Dog, or else it is a retcon.


I think we mean the same thing. He's a childhood friend of the daughter of the guy who "invented" KITT in this new series. This has all been explained in the info NBC has released and interviews. It's a new character named Sarah Graiman, who I mentioned in previous posts. Her father, Charles Graiman is being used as the man who "invented" KITT and also is a new character to sort of fill the gap or whatever.

Here's a new interview that includes cropped version of the newly released pics.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=41270


I'm still in the middle of reading it. Blah, looks like KR2000 might remain canon as of now...

EDIT: Well that was a bit interesting there's one thing I know someone is going to pick up on so I'll just say that I think they don't literally mean it and it's one of those "in spirit" kind of things.

[GuardianAngel]

That interview lowered my expectations even more. I still can't understand how some writers and producers can't get what the audience actually wants.... Very disappointing, indeed....

----- Added 5 Minutes later -----

That interview lowered my expectations even more. I still can't understand how some writers and producers can't get what the audience actually wants.... Very disappointing, indeed....

[xrayvision]

This quote from the interview is a total lie:

"There is never a mention in the original series about who actually physically built the car and developed the technology".

There was no one man who built the car. They completely disregarded what was revealed in Junk Yard Dog. KITT's (and KARR's) components were built and developed by several scientists. Even in Knight of the Phoenix, you see several technicians walking around when Michael looks out the window. If I remember correctly Marco Berio from Killer KITT also had a role in developing KITT. This obviously shows how little research they did.

[PHOENIXZERO]

Yeah but they never revealed who was responsible for over looking the entire project did they? They brought in people who hand in it but never the guy who really put it all together or worked with Wilton Knight to design KARR/KITT. Devon certainly wasn't that guy and Wilton was too sick.

[HalJordan4184]

While they do reveal key people in the series who were part of the original design team like was said, they never reveal the head of the project. Wilton funneled millions into the project, Devon essentially runs FLAG, Bonnie came in after the fact, and all the people revealed throughout the series helped by creating or working on some part of KITT. However, it is never shown who actually supervised production or any of that. Someone, even in a team like the one that built KITT, is in charge, and watching over the other technicians to make sure things are done right.

So Charles Graiman could very well be the guy that designed most of the original KITT, and other's had to come help build it. That would be a lot to have one man do. And it won't necessarily contradict the original series, because it isn't revealed that the original team did all the designing for KITT, just the building and programming.

[xrayvision]

Well, if this Graiman is revealed to be a project manager who coordinated everything, then it would be acceptable. But as far as programming KITT's coding, he obviously had nothing to do with it, or else he would have been there when KITT had to be recreated.

Graiman as project manager makes the most sense. We have seen all sorts of scientists and technicians, but not a project manager who would report the progress to Devon who in turn would report it to Wilton Knight. Graiman as a PM would explain why only those 3 people knew of KITT's MBS formula and why he wasn't there in Junk Yard Dog to recreate KITT.

[HalJordan4184]

He could have even been a programmer of KITT, even the lead. He didn't have to be on screen in Junk Yard Dog. Most of the KITT being rebuilt scenes were shot in the garage. If he was programming KITT, or helping too, he was probably at a computer somewhere, and not welding the car back together.

[KryptonSite]

Funny trivia I recently read...

The first wife of David Hasselhoff remarried after they were divorced, and her next husband was a soap opera actor by the name of Michael Knight.

On that soap opera, Michael Knight's son was played by... Justin Bruening (lead of the new show)

Cool, huh? Not just because of the first wife apparently having a Michael Knight fetish, but also, because of Justin's continuing to have roles "as the son of Michael Knight."

By the way.. .can we start lobbying for a Patricia McPherson appearance now or later?

[PHOENIXZERO]

Yeah, I saw that a couple months ago, weird/amusing stuff. :D

Also, couple new videos on scifi.com:


http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=47690&type=0

Also answers a question finally that we've had.... A little disappointing but they do need to save something for the TV series.

[KryptonSite]

Is that the revelation of no Turbo Boost in the pilot?

[PHOENIXZERO]

Yeah, hopefully it will make it at some point in the series when they have a higher budget and time to do more things.... Then again Dave Bartis comes off rather jerkish to me with his seemingly mocking the stunt.

[KryptonSite]

Turbo Boost was my favorite part of the car when I was a kid. If they're going to even have a variation of Super Pursuit Mode in Battle Mode "Turbo Boost" seems a no-brainer... or maybe this is another sign this just isn't the right kind of car, since jumping a Ford would set them back a lot more than a Trans-Am would have back in the day.

[PHOENIXZERO]

Eh, even the original Knight Rider, when its budget was cut started to use models in place of the stunt car, they could do that and make it easily look better. Plus today CGI is at a level where even on a TV budget they could do the stunt and make it look as good if not better than using an actual stunt car. Much of the time on the original show they would have to change to a in car or "stock" view for most of them so as to not show the horrible landing that probably killed the stunt car.. They absolutely have to bring it in when the series is made, well if it makes it that far and I'm pretty sure it will. Personally I'm not impressed with a car being able to hack computers and surveillance. The morphing thing I have a feeling is going to wear itself out rather quickly. Who wants to see the car basically trying to hide? Attack mode apparently alters performance which maybe it's just me, sounds like a compromise with Ford. Have I mentioned the Viper flash backs I've had? :lol:

[KryptonSite]

One thing I'm curious about with the footage I've seen on E! and whatnot:

Is the scanner light going to be put in by CGI later?

Seems a little lazy to just put it in after the fact, but then again it was probably a pain to film it for the original show.

[PHOENIXZERO]

Well originally the only time the scanner worked was when KITT was either in control or doing surveillance but then later on it was working all the time (guess you could say he was always working then because it was safer) and I think they're going route of it not always being on. I do believe that even back then they had to go and enhance it in post production to make it show up better. But I'm pretty sure that it's not just a post effect in the TV movie.

[PHOENIXZERO]

KRO has new production photos from the TV Movie here:

http://www.knightrideronline.com/news/2008/02/new_knight_rider_production_ph.php

Fair warning, they might be considered spoilerish. They'll have an interview up soon as well, I'll edit/update when it is.

New article below about the new car and confirms that they didn't use real KRs since they weren't in production yet. Oh and the guy who was responsible for building and designing the new KITT, including the somewhat awful looking "Attack Mode" comes off as a stuck up asshat in my opinion. Not to mention other rather annoying comments in the article that I'm sure some of you will pick up, obviously not fans which probably explains some of the new car's appearance, even if everything had to be passed along to TPTB.... Also a bit of info on the new scanner.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=124566?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1 .*

[GuardianAngel]

^Thanks. It seems that KITT hasn't got a phone onboard (Mike Traceur is using a mobile phone).... so no turbo boost, no phone... what's next? no GPS?

[PHOENIXZERO]

Nah the car will have GPS....... Because that's a revolutionary, feature that no other car has today. :rolleyes:


Anyway, part one of the interview is up:

http://www.knightrideronline.com/news/2008/02/an_exclusive_interview_with_da.php


The exclusion of Turbo Boost right now for the pilot I think is understandable and at least the door isn't closed on it being introduced in the future. I do believe it could be easily explained and even sound half way plausible if done right. I greatly disagree on the Mustang looking cooler though.. On the bright side at least he was a fan of the original and went back and watched it again on DVD. Then again, if there's one thing I've learned over the years is to not immediately trust someone saying they're a fan of something until you actually see the finished product. Just over two weeks to go until the premiere!

[KryptonSite]

I know there are strict 'no-download' rules on this site, but if this manages to leak early, I will turn a blind eye ;) I can't wait to see it!

Also, just saw the new photos... I probably should get them from NBC to put onto KITTsite, though since I'm not doing much with it it'd be kind of pointless... but I do have two very shallow comments - one, Mike Traceur needs to learn how to comb his hair, and two, I can't stop staring at that thing on Deanna Russo's neck.

[PHOENIXZERO]

*Reports you to a moderator* :lol: j/k

That thing is rather distracting, hopefully it was covered by make up in the TV movie. It's almost as distracting as the moles/marks on Adrianne Palicki's face from Covenant.

Anyway, part two is up:

http://www.knightrideronline.com/news/2008/02/exclusive_interview_with_david.php

Some replies are the typical saying something but not really saying much evasive type.

[KryptonSite]

I was surprised to read that Bartis seems to follow the fandom, especially reading KRO, but he chooses to gloss over Turbo Boost and that sort of thing. He does, however, come off as intelligent, so I dunno. I guess he wants to do his own thing with Knight Rider... which still seems to be better than what was done with Bionic Woman.

One other thing I am curious about, that may be addressed in the interview, is KITT's dashboard... will it look futuristic and cool, or what? Will KITT's voice box look like the three lines, or a synthesizer? So many questions...

I'll hop over and read that interview now.

[tigertim]

I may check Knight Rider 2008 out to see if it's any good.

[KryptonSite]

Bah. It sounds like KITT's dashboard will be minimalistic too. :(

Guess it could be worse... it could be Team Knight Rider.

[krpto]

What was so bad about team knight rider??? I never saw it or even remember hearing about it before this thread but there seems to be alot of hate towards it.

[PHOENIXZERO]

Everything was bad about Team Knight Rider, minus KRO (pretty much their own KARR for one episode) which was a black Ferrari. I dunno how to describe just how bad it was, but it was pretty much a low budget syndicated show which was just full of bad acting, characters, effects, writing, pretty much everything, it's almost like sub-Power Rangers in quality though at least they don't morph or combine their vehicles, well except for one that did. >_> You really need to actually watch it to get an idea. I read awhile ago that NBC's Hulu.com had a few episodes up, maybe they still do, sign up and check it out if they let you. If not there's another method to get a hold of them but it's not legal so I don't want to explain how here.

The dash really shouldn't be a mess like the original KITT's, buttons everywhere is really kind of it seems like it's going to be more of a touch screen kind of thing like the iPhone or the F-22 Raptor cockpit as someone compared it to, which actually kind of fits with the progression from the original.


Finally, the interview with Sydney Tamiia Poitier is already up! :D

http://www.knightrideronline.com/news/2008/02/exclusive_interview_with_sydne.php

[HalJordan4184]

See, that's my thing. A futuristic dash, is going to be minimalistic. New technology, is doing more, with less. A dash, and cocpit aetup like the original KITT, wouldn't be futuristic, or even modern, it'd be retro. If a new KARR came into play, I'd be alright with him being a little more retro. Not a brand new KITT though.

[KryptonSite]

What bothered me about Team Knight Rider, and I apologize if my recollections are wrong, but none of the cars had scanners, and didn't have Turbo Boosts or anything like that... and the cars were ANNOYING. Give me a snooty British voice or GOB from Arrested Development and I'll like it. :)

On that note, I am kind of excited Will Arnett is the voice. Sure I'd have preferred William Daniels, but that just leaves a door open for Daniels to return as the Knight Industries Two Thousand somehow.

[HalJordan4184]

No, they didn't have scanners or anything. They didn't do much of anything really. IIRC they didn't even have full MBS, and couldn't take the punishment KITT could because of it.

[PHOENIXZERO]

New trailer on nbc.com! I won't spoil it, but let's just say.... Prepare for some potential disappointment. >_<

http://www.nbc.com/Knight_Rider/video/#cat=new

That's not to say there isn't at least some cool stuff in it....

[KryptonSite]

I dunno, I kind of like the new dash.... it's not the three bars but it's a bit better than just the red light of the early episodes.

[GuardianAngel]

Actually I found the latest trailer more promising than anything advertised before.

KR 2008 may turn out to be not that bad, after all..

[HalJordan4184]

That's what i pretty much expected.

I do agree it's better than the red flashing box of the pilot and half the first season.

It does look like the new KITT at least has something comparable to the MBS, which is good news to see.

[PHOENIXZERO]

Bleh, reminds me of the awful voice modulator in KR2000 or a EKG monitor or oscilloscope. Maybe it's like what someone else suggested, like the iPhone and with those other things up its positioning and everything is altered. It's certainly not going to be one of those "OMG this sucks I'm not watching" type things, I'm over the initial shock. Besides, it can be changed/updated at any time post TV movie. It should be more eye level and in a similar location as the original KITT's. From the sound of things they did go ahead and make Will Arnett's voice sound a little too much like KARR's, to me anyway maybe just a little too much bass or low pitch. But maybe it's just those snippets being taken out of context.



EDIT:

Someone who's connected to the production of the TV Movie has posted that Will Arnett has pulled out due to a contractual conflict (not sure what, I'll ask and see if he knows but I assume it was something that would've prevented him from doing other VO work). The new voice of KITT is going to be................. Val Kilmer and he's now redubbing KITT's dialog.

I'm not sure what to make of it yet, I can see Kilmer being a better choice due to his established range, not sure of his voice since it's been awhile since I've really heard him in anything though it'd still be altered in post production. It might work out for the best, when I hear and thing of Will Arnett it kind of reminds me how he seems to play a lot of characters that are dicks and I didn't want the new KITT to sound like a jerk, at least Kilmer's issues with that were behind the scenes and less characters he's played. :P

[GuardianAngel]

BREAKING NEWS! Arnett Out - Kilmer In!
Will Arnett is no longer the voice of KITT in the new Knight Rider movie because of a contractual conflict. The new voice of KITT will be...Val Kilmer.

http://www.knightrideronline.com/news/2008/02/val_kilmer_as_kitt.php

[STFanatic]

Holy Batman!
Is Michael Keaton doing the voice next season, then George Clooney after that?
:p

[GuardianAngel]

Holy Batman!
Is Michael Keaton doing the voice next season, then George Clooney after that?
:p

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[STFanatic]

I understand why William Daniels didn't want to pick up a full time series as he is 80 years old now.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----

Hmm... "The Dark Knight Rider". Sounds cool ;)

[KryptonSite]

What the heck? Really?

UGH... Arnett's voice was something I was looking forward to. I loved GOB. Val Kilmer isn't really a draw for me. That's lame.

----- Added 36 Seconds later -----

And seriously, "contractual conflicts?" As things stand they're only getting one episode... if they go to series couldn't they just alter the voice THEN? Ugh.

[PHOENIXZERO]

BREAKING NEWS! Arnett Out - Kilmer In!
Will Arnett is no longer the voice of KITT in the new Knight Rider movie because of a contractual conflict. The new voice of KITT will be...Val Kilmer.

http://www.knightrideronline.com/news/2008/02/val_kilmer_as_kitt.php


Dammit, beat me to it from my edit. :lol: Didn't see they put it on the news section.

[KryptonSite]

And I just saw before I posted my thoughts that it has something to do with Arnett's involvement with GMC. That's still so lame.

[GuardianAngel]

New commercial with Val Kilmer's voice (I believe):
http://www.nbc.com/Knight_Rider/video/#cat=new

A video on designing the new KITT:
http://www.nbc.com/Knight_Rider/Ford/

And a couple of interviews available on Knight Rider Online, one of which with Deanna Russo :
http://www.knightrideronline.com/news/2008/02/interview_deanna_russo.php

[Antithesis]

No, they didn't have scanners or anything. They didn't do much of anything really. IIRC they didn't even have full MBS, and couldn't take the punishment KITT could because of it.

While the cars did suck the scanner thing isn't entirely true. The red mustang had some kind of red light on the front. It wasn't a traditional scanner, but I got the impression it was intended to be something similar.

[PHOENIXZERO]

Nah, Val Kilmer just came on board, his voice won't be in any promos as it stands now.

If anyone in the US is interested and has access to Hulu.com has TKR up to watch. If you don't apply and you might be accepted in a couple days.


Oh and another new preview commercial. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8miCi77bxY


EDIT:

Yet another commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbctb1NAETQ

:lol:

[PHOENIXZERO]

I think I'll make a new post.. Hmmm...

The car is featured on Jay's garage:

http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=215960

When I heard voice they used for the car's "talking" (don't get too excited since it was done afterwards and no one reacts to it) I thought it sounded like Val Kilmer, it was confirmed earlier today that it is in fact, Val Kilmer's voice.

Also another new promotional video "KITT comes to life":

http://www.nbc.com/Knight_Rider/video/#mea=216233


Finally, part two of the interview with Deanna Russo who plays Sarah Graiman.

http://www.shadowyflight.com/news/2008/02/interview-with-deanna-russo.php


I have a feeling NBC wants the "Knight Rider Online" name....

[KryptonSite]

I have a feeling NBC wants the "Knight Rider Online" name....

What's likely happened is that NBC decided to say "Knight Rider is our property; your name is infringing on it" or they recommended he go with something that's NOT copyrighted.

I actually once had a conversation with DC Comics over "KryptonSite," since it's derived from their trademark "kryptonite." We never went too far with that, though I did add to the disclaimer that the term "kryptonite" is a trademark of DC, etc. in my disclaimer.

You'll notice "HeroSite," since the word "hero" is not trademarked, is what I call my Heroes website. And had I done KITTSite... well... I may have had some trouble, but it's still a bit more peripheral than "Knight Rider Online" would have been.

TerminatorSite would be in so much trouble if the studio complained though, haha.

[PHOENIXZERO]

Probably though it's funny it'd take them 12 years, until the new TV movie to say something. Well not really, that's how those things typically work isn't it? They don't care until they have an interest in it again. Of course the Krypton/Kryptonite name was probably derived from the element of the same name but that doesn't matter. :P

Anyway, here's yet another new teaser, guess it was shown during American Gladiators.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Gs6f5pb5s


So, the car takes damage at least to the wind shield with just bullet fire and heals very quickly. Hmmm, on one hand I can live with it since it absorbs the energy of the bullet and prevents ricochets, something that at least was shown in the original pilot to be a problem but I don't recall it ever being shown again aside from people saying the bullets were like they were bouncing off the car, certainly safer if anything. Also looks like the car does absorb some of the impact from the SUV hitting it. On the other hand it's still weird that it would barely move and what kind of limitations would this put in place? I kind of considered the original KITT to be a bit like Pre-Crisis Superman, I guess the new KITT would seemingly fall along the lines of Post-Crisis incarnation in some aspects though missing certain abilities associated with KITT/Superman, I could make a Turbo Boost/Flying comparison but I... Whoops, oh well. Superman's power levels and abilities increased over the last couple decades to where now they're building Superman back up to his pre-Crisis self in some ways or were, I haven't read a Superman comic in the last several months. Anyway, it was a very good teaser hopefully the TV movie is too and shows potential as long as they didn't screw up on a KR2000 level, heh.

[KryptonSite]

Okay, I kind of really like the new trailer. Val Kilmer may be okay after all, though I still love GOB.

Seriously though, I'm really looking forward to Sunday night :)

[PHOENIXZERO]

Five new clips from NBC given to KRO, fair warning though, they may be considered a bit spoilerish though most of them are from the clips we've seen from the previews, just expanded. The second and fifth feature Val Kilmer's voice but it may not be the final version as they're still apparently mixing his audio.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmvQ-yMPfOY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JrogegPd6I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGJuSzBVzos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9_oy9t24eE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6PJamhhSoA

New well, a day old article now located here:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=124738

[KryptonSite]

Some very cool clips there. Only a few more days left!

[GuardianAngel]

Very cool clips! But the original KITT looks disassembled, like in Knight Rider 2000.... what a shame!

[KryptonSite]

Thanks to Jc, a bunch of clips at http://www.kittsite.com - dunno if all of these are "out there" yet, so it may be a find!

[GuardianAngel]

Unfortunately I can't view them, Craig. They seem to have the same limitation as the clips of the CW website, that is "American viewers only".

[KryptonSite]

Sorry about that :(

I do have something else for you though:

Best. Picture. Ever. (http://www.kittsite.com/hoff.htm)

[GuardianAngel]

Thanks, Craig!

[KryptonSite]

And here's a special treat that I'm not posting over there (yet):

http://www.kittsite.com/changingoftheguard.jpg

[PHOENIXZERO]

Good pics, I wonder who won the contest some radio station had going for the premiere at the Playboy Mansion.

Six new clips from the NBC electronic press kit that was sent to Knight Rider Online and other places. Some of it we've seen before since they're interviews for entertainment shows and whatever to edit themselves.

http://www.shadowyflight.com/kr08/clips.php

More to come later today also it seems.

Four days, eleven hours and about thirty minutes to go! :D

[KryptonSite]

There was a Myspace competition to get in on the premiere party too. I entered... sadly, didn't win.

[TMLS]

Has it really not leaked yet??? Well done NBC!

[KryptonSite]

Apparently it's finished though, if it screened at the Playboy Mansion last night... so it's only a matter of time...

[PHOENIXZERO]

Knight Rider Online (soon to be Shadowy Flight it looks like) has put up part one of the interview with the writer for the TV Movie, David Andron.

http://www.shadowyflight.com/news/2008/02/interview-david-andron-part1.php

He comes off as likable in here I think, especially with it looking like he's in agreement that KR2000 and TKR sucked. I'll probably be a little more forgiving when it comes to script/story issues than I normally would seeing the situation they were in. Glad I wasn't in this kind of position, I couldn't take not being able to tweak things as I saw needed. I'd probably end up telling the WGA to STFU and let me fix things I worked hard on. I'd then promptly be black balled and production would probably be shut down as members of supporting unions would fail to support me. :lol:

Two more days! :D

[STFanatic]

I listened to an interview with Bruce Davison (Charles Graiman on the series) on "The Man-Cow Show" today, he said the series is "Character driven", then when Man-Cow said, that most of the fans of the original series was all about the car, Bruce Davison changed his statement about how the car is a character as well.

[GuardianAngel]

I can't understand what Knight Rider Online is doing with this new Knight Rider. There seem to be two sites and the one dedicated to the new KR is shadowyflight. On the other hand, if you compare the NEWS section of KRO and shadowyflight.com, the one on KRO has more material... how confusing..!!!

http://shadowyflight.com/news/

http://www.knightrideronline.com/news/

BTW the TV movie hasn't leaked yet, so we'll just have to watch it on NBC tomorrow night. I suppose NBC has been very strict about it to have more viewers tomorrow night. CBS should have done the same with Jericho.

[PHOENIXZERO]

They're going to be moving over to Shadowy Flight soon I believe. KRO is still the main site for now though.

[KryptonSite]

I'm excited - tomorrow's the big day!

I'm liking the Knight Rider related avatars I'm seeing in this thread too.

I keep worrying "what if this sucks" - but then I remember that I liked KR2000, so when it comes to Knight Rider, my standards may be low. haha.

And hey - I'm the guy who made a website for Bionic Woman. I know what TRUE crap looks like.

[SparkleforSmallville]

:lol: It's good you can laugh at yourself Craig! Makes life alot easier.

I am also really excited about this Knight Rider, but I'm still watching Flash Gordon, so talk about low expectations:)

[MidgardDragon]

I'm actually really looking forward to this after the previews started flooding in. Looks like it might actually be fun. And even if it's crap, if it's fun then at least it will be worth the ride.

[Randy G.]

Okay, what the hell. Lol! I'm willing to give this a try.
I liked what I've read, & the clips I've seen. As long as we get a glimpse of old KITT & "The Hoff," at some point, I'm all for it.

Now I can't wait until tomorrow night. :cool:

----- Added 5 Minutes later -----

By the way, I've got the perfect opening sequence that actually kills 2 birds with one stone. :cool:

Jaime Sommers is running (with Bionic speed) down the street, chasing a bad guy. Just as she runs through an intersection.... BAM!!!! She's hit by a black Mustang, and knocked into a million pieces. We hear Val Kilmer's voice say something witty, and K.I.T.T. races off.

Just then, a Radio Shack truck pulls up, and 2 guys jump out and begin loading all of the Bionic pieces into the truck. - Cue the opening theme music.

R.G. ;)

[TMLS]

Wow, Randy. Have I just stepped into a Groundhog Day? Sure I just read that somewhere else... ;)

[Randy G.]

Ha ha ha! Well, since it does involve both shows. :lol:

[03 kal-el]

hope it does good if it does. how many episodes you think we will get per season 13 or 22?

[InLove_with_Chloe]

I am surprised so many people are looking forward to a remake of this show..... I mean, the original was kinda........well, it starred David Hasselhoff, for god's sake!!! :lol: You know, maybe it's because I am German...... the man was so popular in my home country........ something we're not very proud of.
:lol:
;)

[KryptonSite]

If the pilot does well, I assume they'll get a 13 episode order... and then if THOSE do well, they'll add nine. That's usually how the TV industry works, at least.

12 and a half more hours!

[STFanatic]

Just nine hours & thirteen minutes to go for me :D

I am looking forward to it because it is a part of my past being reborn.

If it flops, I will be disappointed, I can't tell you how I felt about Starksy & Hutch when the travesty of a movie came out.

[GuardianAngel]

^Look two posts above.

[krpto]

7 hours 17 minutes and some odd seconds

[KryptonSite]

I should've gotten Jon to make a counter like he did for Terminatorsite. LOL.

I'm going to try to upload some more pics to kittsite.com (http://www.kittsite.com) soon-ish... I'm sick with a sore throat and congestion today so I'm a little slow.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Seems like everyone is getting sick, hope you feel better soon, Craig. One of the reasons I'm excited, is because so many shows on TV now, well,..... they just suck:\

[Randy G.]

4 hours 4 minutes

[PHOENIXZERO]

Four hours to go! :D

There are new videos up on NBC.com, they're just a three part commercial but actually well done, even though I've dreaded the commercial aspect with Ford I didn't mind these at all. They even feature Val Kilmer's voice and......... Digital gauges! :O

http://www.nbc.com/Knight_Rider/Ford/#


KRO has part two of the interview with the writer David Andron and with the CEO/Founder of Stargate Digital, the company (with an obvious origin) responsible for the special effects in the movie. Andron didn't leave me wanting to kick him in the nuts so that's a plus and the Sam Nicholson interview I thought was very good.

[KryptonSite]

Those pics are now up at KITTSite (http://www.kittsite.com) if you want to take a look. They've all been posted before in other places as far as I know, so they're nothing new, but maybe you can at least laugh at the captions or something.

I just figured it'd be good to have them up if anyone happens by this thread or the site tonight after watching the show.

[Randy G.]

Excellent Pics, & perfect timing.
We now also have a "Knight Rider Fan Art" (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85601) thread as well. ;)

[PHOENIXZERO]

Now if only I had any drawing related artistic talent! :(

[krpto]

"I'm not Mystique!"

lol

[Randy G.]

4 minutes! :eek:

[STFanatic]

It is on NOW!!!

[PHOENIXZERO]

It's time! :D

[STFanatic]

oooo it is Dr. Stegman! (Stephen King's Kingdom Hospital) :D

[Randy G.]

This is really good so far! http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2245/woooo1jk.gif

[DreadShamus]

Still getting used to the voice of KITT... another Mike? nice coincidence.:p

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KITT's voice sounds like he's trying to seduce someone.

[PHOENIXZERO]

I guess we'll be dealing with some flashbacks since well Graiman was olllld and well now dead. I was hoping he would survive for the potential series. So far the early script spoilers have been accurate.

[j03superbat]

KITT's voice sounds like he's trying to seduce someone.
It does!

[PHOENIXZERO]

You'd think the car would want to change his model too. >_>

[Randy G.]

Lovin' KITT's new trick! :p

[KryptonSite]

I guess we'll be dealing with some flashbacks since well Graiman was olllld and well now dead. I was hoping he would survive for the potential series. So far the early script spoilers have been accurate.

In the version of the script I read he lives.

[DreadShamus]

It does!

It's like a seductive version of HAL 2000 :rotfl:

[KryptonSite]

So of course I wanna know... are there opening titles of any sort?

[Randy G.]

I figured that would happen Craig. It parallels the Bionic Woman original script in that way.

[DreadShamus]

So of course I wanna know... are there opening titles of any sort?

HUH? You didn't see them? I don't like the new song remix.

[STFanatic]

Cool, crossover with "Las Vegas" The Monticito (sp)!

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I saw the credits. They played a variant of the original theme.

[PHOENIXZERO]

Yeah that was a swerve.... :lol: I guess no flashbacks after all. I thought they just had him in make up...

[KryptonSite]

The Montecito, really?

Hiro and Ando were there in "Heroes," too... same universe?

Too bad the new main character of "Las Vegas" can't show up with his own Ferrari. Haha.

[DreadShamus]

HE LIVES!
What color? I must have looked away during that...

[Randy G.]

What color was it? Blue?

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Damn..... hurry! I want the car.

[DreadShamus]

What color was it? Blue?

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Damn..... hurry! I want the car.

LOL... I simply assumed I wasn't looking closely when it looked blue... was that all the change it did?
Thats no disguise!

[KryptonSite]

So is it good?

[DreadShamus]

With my luck, i'll end up with the Focus instead.:mad:

[KryptonSite]

I can't help but notice, 104 people are currently viewing the "Other TV Shows" section right now... could it be they're all checking this thread out? Wishful thinking I know.

[DreadShamus]

A doppelganger? BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA Rich people get body doubles.

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so was it Blue that KITT morphed to?

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n/m. i know the other answers

[SparkleforSmallville]

KITT morphed? Was it like a Transformer?

[STFanatic]

I was hoping Cooper from "Las Vegas" would make an appearance in the casino ;)

It is good, I just noticed it is already into the second hour :eek:

[DreadShamus]

KITT morphed? Was it like a Transformer?

He changed colors. lol


Michael Knights son? Interesting.

[Randy G.]

Maybe the Montecito is the center of the NBC Universe. Several shows have filmed there. Las Vegas, Heroes, Days, Knight Rider..... probably more. :lol:

[DreadShamus]

I was hoping Cooper from "Las Vegas" would make an appearance in the casino ;)

It is good, I just noticed it is already into the second hour :eek:

I just noticed too. Its going quickly.

[STFanatic]

Not like a transformer, just ripples along with a change of look.