Is Nathan really dead?

[chrisxs5]

We haven't seen a body!

[newborne1221]

i dont think he would die, he is such a good actor. besides, nathan can fly off faster anyways

[shipgrad2002]

This was the perfect end for his character, though we will miss you Nathan.

[Lexgirl33]

Nah hes not dead!

[chrisxs5]

Originally posted by newborne1221
i dont think he would die, he is such a good actor. besides, nathan can fly off faster anyways
Not Peter, Nathan!

[Monkeychow01]

I think that was the story arch finalie. If they were to go "fooled you....he's not dead!" I think the entire first season and character progression would lose it passase *sp?*. The writing was done very well for his character...so I'd have to say dead as a door nail except for flashbacks.

[RedPhoenix23]

Hasn't Adrain Pasdar been confirmed for next season's cast? If so, then he can't be dead! Unless Sylar killed Candace of course. Even then.... seems like a disservice to the character that went out a hero. :(

[Exodus2000]

he probably did the old grenade trick....lob him and run

[Supermansthebest]

I hope he didnt die, I mean Peter can fly on his own...I hope tht while Peter was being carried he told his brother to leave him and fly as far as possible and then explode. *I dont think Peter is dead 2...tht would suck - these characters were the backbones of volume 1...we need them in 2

[angeloo]

Originally posted by Supermansthebest
I hope he didnt die, I mean Peter can fly on his own...I hope tht while Peter was being carried he told his brother to leave him and fly as far as possible and then explode. *I dont think Peter is dead 2...tht would suck - these characters were the backbones of volume 1...we need them in 2

i aggre

[chrisxs5]

Originally posted by Exodus2000
he probably did the old grenade trick....lob him and run
See thats what I was thinking. He always has a motive behind what he does and I dont think saving the world was that motive!

[Ginx]

I'm not sure if he's dead or not. I keep thinking that Nathan could have flown away and then gotten pushed further away by the explosion. Or that 'eye of the storm' idea - that Nathan was with Peter so he was safe? But maybe that only applies to weather realted storms etc.

Either way - I think Mr. Nathan Petrelli will be back - just when we least expect it.......

Fade to Nathan and Peter sitting on an island in the middle of no where - both are powerless from the shock of the landing but are alive. Nathan's got a bad scar...Peter is fine. They look over and see a hellicopter but it doesn't have any gas.....'well, if they got off the island....then so can we' :lol:

[elroyofkrypton]

No one who can fly stays at the detonation point of a nuclear bomb. Nathan's mom didn't raise any stupid sons. I'm sure Peter warned Nathan that he was about to pop this zit, and our friendly neighborhood politican made for the Bahamas, far away from Mommy Dearest.:cool:

[Ginx]

Originally posted by chrisxs5
See thats what I was thinking. He always has a motive behind what he does and I dont think saving the world was that motive!

See - I think that Nathan's motivation was love of his daughter Claire and that she was right. She made him remember that he loved his brother and needed to protect him. That he couldn't abandon his brother and he couldn't abandon Claire. Family.....

[chrisxs5]

I think he will resurface next season. They will all think he's dead, but he will come back with amnesia!

[RedPhoenix23]

Originally posted by Ginx
I'm not sure if he's dead or not. I keep thinking that Nathan could have flown away and then gotten pushed further away by the explosion. Or that 'eye of the storm' idea - that Nathan was with Peter so he was safe? But maybe that only applies to weather realted storms etc.

Either way - I think Mr. Nathan Petrelli will be back - just when we least expect it.......

Fade to Nathan and Peter sitting on an island in the middle of no where - both are powerless from the shock of the landing but are alive. Nathan's got a bad scar...Peter is fine. They look over and see a hellicopter but it doesn't have any gas.....'well, if they got off the island....then so can we' :lol:

OORRRRR. They see the remains of the Oceanic flight and hear some freaky freaky monster off in the jungle and then their last words will be "Oh crap. We'll NEVER get off this damn confusing island!!!!!!"

[Ginx]

Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
OORRRRR. They see the remains of the Oceanic flight and hear some freaky freaky monster off in the jungle and then their last words will be "Oh crap. We'll NEVER get off this damn confusing island!!!!!!"

LMAO :lol:

Peter could blow that monster away lol.....and then slap around 'the others' lol...... actually....that would make me happy.

Either that or they're walking on the island and they come across a boat.....and some passengers....that only went on a 3 hour tour. :lol:

[Exodus2000]

Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
OORRRRR. They see the remains of the Oceanic flight and hear some freaky freaky monster off in the jungle and then their last words will be "Oh crap. We'll NEVER get off this damn confusing island!!!!!!"

:rotfl:

OMG....hes's Ghost Jacob :eek:

[Ginx]

Originally posted by Exodus2000
:rotfl:

OMG....hes's Ghost Jacob :eek:

No - that would be Peter lol. Since he can become invisible and all that - and do that fancy voice lol.......

Nathan's sipping coconuts - leading the good life with the French Woman lol.......:lol: Chatting with Locke about how his wife is now also not in a wheelchair - so they can start a support group lol......sorry :\ :lol:

[chrisxs5]

Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
OORRRRR. They see the remains of the Oceanic flight and hear some freaky freaky monster off in the jungle and then their last words will be "Oh crap. We'll NEVER get off this damn confusing island!!!!!!"
How did Parkman die on the island and then end up at Krby Plaza?

[Ginx]

Originally posted by chrisxs5
How did Parkman die on the island and then end up at Krby Plaza?

Well...if Lost is good for one thing - it's giving us a buncha questions with no answers. So just throw that question in with all the rest of them lol.....

:lol:

[newfan]

I dont think Nathan is dead either, no way! He'll be back for sure!

[Rosa76]

:)Nathan will be back , I saw the cast of Heroes on Larry King a while back,and pretty sure he'll be back .Isaac Mendes might even have a cameo(flashback)next season.

[chrisxs5]

the frying man must live

[Chlarkerlover]

Originally posted by Exodus2000
he probably did the old grenade trick....lob him and run

ILMAO that's what my mom said! Well, not in those words, but close enough. :lol: yeah, he either died with his brother or kinda flew up a safe distance and dropped him. :rotfl:

Nathan: huh, this seems far enough *drops*
Peter: WHAT THE.....*BOOM*
Nathan: *sigh* Guess I better go catch what's left of him and wait for him to heal. *flies off.*

:lol:

[beast]

It'd be a little inconsistent for Nathan to survive. He admittedly is not strong enough to carry Peter alone. Peter had to be flying too. If that's the case then Peter could have flown himself away if his head was clear enough to think to do it.

Peter should have been emitting radiation and fire like Ted did when he got shot and and blew up the Bennet house. Since he was just glowing, anyone could've gotten close enough to Peter to shoot him or punch him.

If it was done consistently, Nathan and Claire should have been burning (Claire healing) the entire time they were close to Peter. Nathan should have been sizzling from the time he landed, and burned to death in flight, even before the explosion.

Since he can't carry Peter alone, he definitely can't lob him. Even if he let go, he should still die from radiation poisoning like Ted's wife.

If Nathan survives, then the end was pointless. However, Hiro and Peter can jack up history. That's why I always forgave the disconnections between episodes, letting it go as minor changes from every time Hiro tried to fix things.

Eh. Nathan better be dead.

[Exodus2000]

well lets see if he can out fly an exploding man

I guess we'll find out just how fast that frying man can fry...errr....i mean fly

[Chlarkerlover]

He made a sonic boom once (I think) so maybe he could have gotten away. Maybe.

God I was so shocked, I cried, whmpering "Nathan no Birran."

[Ginx]

Originally posted by chrisxs5
the frying man must live

LMAO - did you mean flying man or were you making a joke that Peter and Nathan and frying from the heat of the bomb?

Uhm....and who says that Nathan can't carry Peter alone? Nathan's a decent sized guy and if Peter can carry Claude then Nathan can carry Peter.

I don't think Nathan and Claire were burning because Peter was holding everything inside - making him turn like he was glowing because he didn't want to hurt anyone - thus not letting it out was causing a build up that would eventually explode. I think if Peter had lost all control then the waves would have come out of him like Ted in Claire's house and then he would have started burning people. That amount of control says a lot about Peter - he was using a lot of will power to keep from exploding.

[Chlarkerlover]

:rotfl: Ouch! Hee, I think he meant flying man. :lol:

[Sharkie]

I could see him dying. Not sure if he actually does though.

[defga]

He most likely will be assumed dead by the characters and the audience, but managed to fly away in time. Just hope they don't bring him back until some episodes later.

[j-kent]

If he was to survive, I would speculate the theory that since he is close to Peter he is safe being in "eye of the storm".

[Bryden88]

Peter is definately alive....

...but Nathan? Eh not so much.

Think of it this way. Look at it with the good evil spectrum.

Peter the entire time is the selfless guy who does the right thing. So he does... and he insists on being sacrificed. He blows up.... but he does come back BECAUSE he made all the right choices - plus he can regenerate lol

Nathan on the other hand... throughout the whole season got murkier and murkier and murkier... but then he came full circle and redeemed himself. Redemption is often about sacrifice.... and all that good stuff, didn't any of you watch Angel? ;) Plus... NATHAN CANNOT REGEN. And the fact is, the nuke blowing up would turn Nathan into ashes.

Those are my thoughts :p

[nightshadz]

Originally posted by Ginx
LMAO - did you mean flying man or were you making a joke that Peter and Nathan and frying from the heat of the bomb?



He's making fun of Hiro's asian accent ;)

[TheWidowmaker]

Originally posted by defga
He most likely will be assumed dead by the characters and the audience, but managed to fly away in time. Just hope they don't bring him back until some episodes later.

Agreed. This would seem like a good ploy if they were having contract issues with Adrian Pasdar, but I think he will be back next year.

Probably threw Peter up as far as he could and flew away. But won't come back for a few episodes while he is trying to figure things out.

[chrisxs5]

In a show like this, I would hope none of the actors would want more money. Especially when now they are known for killing off three characters in one ep!

[STFanatic]

If Nathan is still alive, that would cheapen his scrafice.

Nathan fought with his conscence throughout the series, "Do I do the right thing", even when he learned that Claire was alive he wanted to see her, but "Hot Mama" told him Claire didn't want to meet him and just wanted money.

To minimize the sacrafice he made in the end would make it not really a sacrfice but a way to cop out and make everyone think he was not a Virrian. (IMO)

[chrisxs5]

I liked is character; but if he were dead I would be OK with that as well. I like calling her "Hot Mama", I am going to start calling her that as well!

[STFanatic]

I can see her superhero costume with a "HM" on the chest :lol:

[TheWidowmaker]

Yeah I doubt theres a contract issue there I was just throwing out the idea.

I liked the conflict in his character, but I think it might be beneficial to the show if he did die.

I still wonder what "Hot Mama's" powers are...is it some kind of mind control?

[STFanatic]

Claire's birth mother has flame powers, thus the name I called her :D

[TheWidowmaker]

My bad, I got confused with mama petrelli, the Hot Mama, makes much more sense now. My fault for reading too fast.

[STFanatic]

Tim Kring in the commentary (http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/video/commentary.shtml) reffered to Mama Petrelli as "Cruella Deville" :lol:

[chrisxs5]

I like Cruella also! :lol:

[STFanatic]

Odd that Claire doesn't look Italian ;)

[chrisxs5]

No but wasnt that a white and black coat Cruella gave her a few eps back? :D

[Zeth Duuron]

chrisxs5, nice call!

One thing that has been really bugging me about these boards lately is how people can't carry other people when flying. It's not THAT hard. Peter is not a big guy, by any stretch of the imagination. It's possible that by the sheer momentum and inertia of a body in motion that Nathan could have let Peter go at one point whilst flying, and Peter would have kept going in the direction he was going and blown up away from Nathan.

Bottom line is, we won't know until next season if Nathan made it or not.

[STFanatic]

Peter caught and carried Claude in flight after he pushed him off the building.

I loved that scene :lol:

[TheWidowmaker]

Bring back claude!!

[ash91]

couldn't nathan have just thrown peter into space! he didn't have to be holding him while he exploded.

also did nathan really have to fly peter up there, i mean he wanted claire to shoot him but would that have stopped him from eploding when he regenerated? that way no-one would have to die, nathan wouldn't have to go up and peter would regenerate.

ahh well i'm nit picking, it's more dramatic this way! i must say this is the best show ever and eventhough it didn't have the explosive fight that i expected it was still a brilliant finale!

[Theshadow129x]

it was a great finale. i was more satisfied with this more than any other finale (smallville). i think nathan is alive. i feel it.

[STFanatic]

Back to the subject of this thread...

If either Nathan or Pete were alive, don't you think Molly, who can tell where people are, say something along the lines of "They are still up there" or "Peter is that way and Nathan (Yeah, I don't think she knows their names either) is over that way."?

[david13579]

I don't know if any of you noticed but there was a bit of delay between Nathan's ascension and the time the bomb blew up, I think he had more than enough time to scape. Also, Pete gained niki's superstrengh and he could have pushed nathan away of the explosion then natahan could have stopped his fall a la DBZ style.

[moody12381]

Of course Nathan got away. Didn't you notice the Ice Cream Truck?

[STFanatic]

The mail truck Lana hid behind?
:lol:

[chrisxs5]

Originally posted by moody12381
Of course Nathan got away. Didn't you notice the Ice Cream Truck? :lol: I thought I might have saw a plane fly by!

[superhiro09]

i hope he got away. i had so much hope for him....i just wished he regained his soul earlier, it was annoying watching him act like a jerk when i knew he didnt want to do it.

but besides that, i really do wish he hasnt died, but i still have a bad fealing in my stomach...:\

but we'll find out in four months! :eek: i can't wait that long!!!

[Cyclops1974]

I don't know. When you look at it from a logical way, it would make sense if he let Peter go at the final moments and fly away very fast and then Peter would've "let go".

But if you look at this from the plot, it would make more sense if he died. It would make the sacrifice more true and it would give Peter (no doubt he survived) even more depth in his character. Knowing his brother did this for him. Definitely would give Peter a lot of "why did he have to die" moments, next season. And it would turn Peter into a real Hero, not the dark, not really caring guy we saw in the future.

And about Adrian being signed for next season. Well, remember that Sylar had Candice's powers in the future and that he used them to turn into Nathan. I think we'll be getting a storyline making us and the characters believe that Nathan survived the explosion, but somewhere halfway or near the end of the season we'll find out that he didn't and Nathan is actually Sylar. Which would be kinda predictable as proven here. So I really hope they don't.

[Hockeyking]

It hasn't been established yet about Nathan's powers. His ability to fly at mach 1, to mach 3 speeds would mean he would have to have some kind of invulnerability when flying. So probably he could have flew away from Peter with out injury.

[chrisxs5]

Wow, the vote at this moment is exactly 50/50.

[Sharkie]

Originally posted by Cyclops1974
But if you look at this from the plot, it would make more sense if he died. It would make the sacrifice more true and it would give Peter (no doubt he survived) even more depth in his character. Knowing his brother did this for him. Definitely would give Peter a lot of "why did he have to die" moments, next season. And it would turn Peter into a real Hero, not the dark, not really caring guy we saw in the future. I agree. I could see scenarios with Nathan surviving and dying. I hated him when he was so cold, and then when he came to fly Peter away it was an amazing sacrifice and saved my view of his character. If he does survive, I hope it is because of something Peter does to help his brother, and not Nathan pushing Peter away. That to me would be a severe blow to Nathan's like-ability. If Nathan does die, it WOULD be a catalyst for Peter to become one of the best superheroes in history. So I am kind of on the fence on what I want to see.

[jeff2hogan]

i don't want to see him dead because i think candice would disguise as nathan and become the president, which is just wrong. nathan is a great character. he always seems to be selfish and only care about himself, but that's not true. he love his brother.

plus, why did peter search for nathan's help in the first place? it's because he's afraid, right? but does that mean he has to kill his brother? i'm sure peter or nathan had a plan. i mean, peter can heal, but nathan can't (can he?).

we'll see... but I REAAALLLY hope Nathan wouldn't die

[Clark-Bizarro]

hes alive ! hes president :P

[chrisxs5]

Dead as a doornail!

[DiscoDyslexic]

Alive as a Doornail.


no, I'm just messing around, he's dead.

[chrisxs5]

Originally posted by DiscoDyslexic
Alive as a Doornail.


no, I'm just messing around, he's dead. :lol:

[Sharkie]

Close vote. 34 votes for yes, 33 for no.

[chrisxs5]

I know, I shouldve put a time limit on it! Oh well, at least I know for next time.

[STFanatic]

Hey, this way the numbers will get REAL big by September :p

[chrisxs5]

To bad you cant rig the poll. I would just create and rig polls all day to help prove my points!;)

[SenWinchesterKent]

Not yet. I have a feeling it's going to be like Sylar and he's going to come back, at least for part of the next season. Anyway, he's one of the stars. :cool:

[Saviour of Earth]

I think he us alive.
Him being alive doesnt cheapen the act at all he was willing to die to help peter that is enough.
I think Peter is gonna jus hit him and make him let go while in the air or something.
We will see what exactly went on up there first scene of the new episode.

[XanthusAZ]

Well, it's official. With a heavy heart and a feeling that the show is already jumping the shark, EOnline has confirmed that Nathan is alive. Sigh...and it was just getting good, too.

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=7d4b9f8c-de7f-4f8a-afe0-a2ecce690d31

[chrisxs5]

Well I wonder how they are going to work that in, if he is really alive!

[FUZZYWOOKIEE]

He dropped Pete in the ocean, or flew him into space and dropped him before he blew up. So many theories

[chrisxs5]

They have such a creative writing staff, they should be able to write it good. I mean losing Nathan is a loss in itself. He was a likeable character and had alot people disappointed when we thought he was dead. But having him come back would still add alot of dynamics. I would also like to add that other shows have said before that people have died or didnt die, just to throw people off. I'm not saying they did, I'm just saying it's been done.

[kazek]

If Nathan is alive he should have one serious case of cancer. Unless he has some healing factor we don't know about I don't see how he'd survive such exposure. He was practically hugging Peter. Full dose.

Hope there's no plot hole there.

[chrisxs5]

Isnt prolonged exposure that does damage? If we are going by the one time scenario, then shouldnt Matt and Audry have cancer?

[XanthusAZ]

Due to their close proximity with Peter/Ted at different times, virtually every single character, besides Claire, the Haitian, Ando, and a few other mino characters, have sever radiation poisoning, and should die soon. Can anyone say PLOTHOLE?

[chrisxs5]

Ummm, Nope cant think of a way out of that one.

[STFanatic]

Umm... Secretly Sock-Mama was sneaking those radiation pills into everyone's Lattes while they weren't looking.
:lol:

[chrisxs5]

^:lol:

[TKFlash]

doubt it, he is too much of a core character. the producers wont let him die.

[The Ninth Doctor]

Perhaps, as was said, only prolonged exposure is problematic, and Ted had gotten enough control over his power when the HRGMatTed teamup occured that he was no longer leaking.

[XanthusAZ]

Let's say you're right. Even then, he had seen HRG and Matt before he had any semblance of control, so they would still have radiation poisoning.

[chrisxs5]

But seeing someone the one time wouldnt poison you. You would need prolonged exposure like Teds wife. Day after day after day!

[XanthusAZ]

You're right, but it would also depend on the amount of radiation released during the one meeting.

[chrisxs5]

Well true. I would guess that he could release enough radiation to kill a person without an explosion with enough control.