Lex saves Clark

[Ardiem3]

Could Lex of saved Clark because Lex figured that Lana would figure out that Clark was down there looking for him and would come to the conclusion that he left Clark for dead. He always seems to be lieng and trying to win her approval, i wouldnt out it past him, hell do whatever it takes to make him look like the hero and not the victim. Why else would he want to save Clark. Theyre not exactly going to become best friends again. Just an idea. What do you guys think?

[SeaNymph]

I'm holding on to the hope that maybe there's a LITTLE good left in him...

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by SeaNymph
I'm holding on to the hope that maybe there's a LITTLE good left in him...

Oh ok, just an idea. After all, Lex ends up hating Superman, not Clark.

[xrayvision]

I think he's still grateful for whatever friendship he had with Clark. He said it himself that Clark was the only friend he's had. Perhaps he may still think that Clark is Naman and since Clark helped him (Sageeth) that he should return the favor so that they can finally take their roles in the legendary battle.

[SmallvilleMan]

^^^^I agree with that, plus Clark did save him about a million times......

[Malicieux Toutou]

Originally posted by SeaNymph
I'm holding on to the hope that maybe there's a LITTLE good left in him...

There's definitely some good left in him. Foreinstance, he showed concern for his father after the explosion. I don't think he'll ever become a complete sociopath like Alexander from Onyx.

[Tomsgurl88]

You know what so interesting to me about Lex is that i love AND hate the guy at times, sometimes he's a low down dirty bastard but other times you can't help but feel sorry for him, and knowing where he's gonna end up makes it all the more tragic, so i couldn't help but give a little "awww" when he went back to save Clark.

[Ghyt]

What was up with the two of them moving the grate together? Clark was not fully able to lift the cast iron grate at the end of the final vertical tunnel with his one arm, so Lex ... helped??? We have seen hints that Lex Luthor is meteor rock inspired super-healthy, but is he super-strong as well?

[SuperEl]

I gave it 8/10. That was interesting Lex saves Clark. Before the commercial I thought he jet. lol So Lionel is good, right? Lex has more of his moms side or something... I have a feeling that the finale is going to be a very sad one.

[meteor_phreak]

Originally posted by SeaNymph
I'm holding on to the hope that maybe there's a LITTLE good left in him... i am too, and the fact that he came back, and that he knows clark risked all to save him...plus the way they went out of their way at the end of the epi to say that clark doesn't know what was really going on in the tunnels. maybe we'll get at least some minor relationship improvement that could help over the next few epis. i liked their conversations before they hated each other. if they can't be friends, they at least don't need to be sworn enemies...for a few epis at least.

[Dark Knight23]

I was surprised that Lex did this. I thought it showed that Lex hasn't totally lost his humanity yet. Which makes it even greater to watch when they become full blown enemies.

[Deana]

I seriously thought he was gone when the bomb fell beside Clark.

Lex: God love you. God love me. BYE!

[msleggie]

Originally posted by SeaNymph
I'm holding on to the hope that maybe there's a LITTLE good left in him...

I know what you mean, I know that somewhere deep down inside of Lex there's still some brotherly love for Clark. Lex isn't all the way evil yet so it is a possibility, Clark saw it in his eyes too.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Malicieux Toutou
I don't think he'll ever become a complete sociopath like Alexander from Onyx.

This is exactly what I've been saying. I think as close as he gets, he will never get there. Alexander from Onyx is an evil extreme, while the good Lex in Onyx had nothing else in him but good. His love for humans will make him do what he will in the future, but the problem will be him justifying the means no matter what the cost.

[milton fine]

Originally posted by Tomsgurl88
You know what so interesting to me about Lex is that i love AND hate the guy at times, sometimes he's a low down dirty bastard but other times you can't help but feel sorry for him, and knowing where he's gonna end up makes it all the more tragic, so i couldn't help but give a little "awww" when he went back to save Clark. thats exactly how i feel about lex,hes cool at times then hes a real basterd lol

[God-Man]

I really didn't expect Lex to save Clark. I know it will never happen, but I wished that Clark and Lex would be friends again.

[BadToad]

I'm not a big Lex defender, but Lex coming back and saving Clark was a good moment. The episode did a good job of showing the regard the 2 of them still have for each other, buried under everything else. Clark went in those tunnels to save Lex. Lex ended up saving Clark. Then Clark ends up saving Lex again by catching him on the ladder. Then they get the grate up together. Awesome!

It was sort of sad, because this episode does make you wonder What If?

[Jack-El49]

Originally posted by Ardiem3
Oh ok, just an idea. After all, Lex ends up hating Superman, not Clark.

Exactly - this is what everyone seems to forget. Clark is a nuisance to Lex in later years. Lex hates Superman.

I think there's still a little good in Lex - he's way dark and past redemption now but he's not maniacal yet.

It was sort of sad, because this episode does make you wonder What If?

Almost as if the writers actually read threads from previous seasons where many of those on this forum often defended Lex as a by-product of the way Clark distrusted him from the beginning because his last name was Luthor.

[Lex is a god]

Lex is not yet totally evil and as he said Clark was his only true friend. I think Lex regrets that the friendship has ended and so does Clark. I knew when it seemed that he was leaving Clark to die that he would come back. I know my Lex.

[Heilige]

Originally posted by xrayvision
This is exactly what I've been saying. I think as close as he gets, he will never get there. Alexander from Onyx is an evil extreme, while the good Lex in Onyx had nothing else in him but good. His love for humans will make him do what he will in the future, but the problem will be him justifying the means no matter what the cost.


What do you mean when you say he loves humans?

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

It was a good move, Lex has issues with Superman, not Clark, perhaps they are developing that.
Lex is not "pure evil", he is more like a Lionel -in-training, manipulative and cunning and Clark dying wouldn't be in his best interest, not when he can save him.

Plus, I am sure he was feeling nostalgic with all that remembering the past.

[elway]

That was one of the best scenes of the season/series with Lex leaving Clark screaming "don't leave", and the look on Clark's face when he left amazing shot. Really pumping blood into that war Clark said was starting.















But oppps Lex came back and killed the scene. Sorry ppl it would have been more effective and forwarding to the Lex/Clark hate If Lex would have never came back. Yeah it was allright to see the old Lex for a second but were way past that now.

[Kreukie]

Originally posted by SeaNymph
I'm holding on to the hope that maybe there's a LITTLE good left in him...

I don't want little good... it's getting annoying, it would had been nice if he did leave Clark down there and Clark figured out a way out alone!

This way Clark would know what a real $%^@& Lex is. :mad:

A little good Lex, is taking steps back IMO.

[Dannyblue1]

Originally posted by Kreukie
I don't want little good... it's getting annoying, it would had been nice if he did leave Clark down there and Clark figured out a way out alone!

This way Clark would know what a real $%^@& Lex is. :mad:

A little good Lex, is taking steps back IMO.

What makes canon Lex interesting is that he has this weird code that will, on occasion, prompt him to do the right thing. Other incarnations of Lex have saved Superman more than once. Lex has also worked with Superman to stop other villains. Also, in the comics, when Superman died, Lex grieved.

That's what makes the Superman/Lex Luthor rivalry so interesting. The complexity of it. And what makes canon Lex so interesting is that, sometimes, he'll do something that makes you believe he could be good, and if he just went that way, he could be an incredible force for good.

Then, of course, he goes back to his old ways.

That's why I have absolutely no problem seeing flashes of humanity in SV Lex, even as he's heading towards the dark side.

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by xrayvision
This is exactly what I've been saying. I think as close as he gets, he will never get there. Alexander from Onyx is an evil extreme, while the good Lex in Onyx had nothing else in him but good. His love for humans will make him do what he will in the future, but the problem will be him justifying the means no matter what the cost.

I believe the evil side of Lex in Onyx is what he could become if he truly embraced the whole dark side of his soul. He was seperated into a truly good person and a truly bad person. Right now, hes divded among the two with the darker side winning most of the battles of inner conflict. Just like Clark asked, what if Clark was responsible for who Lex is and will become further. No one is born evil. Its their choices, lifestyle, and people around them that mold them into who they are and who they will become. Lex is in some way like Anakin Skywalker and yes, the finale will be a tragic one for Lex always wanted to be friends with Clark, but Clark wouldnt see it and no Clark is relizing this. When Lex came back to help Clark and they were running out together holding each other because both were bruised and battered, i smiled for it was a touching moment and insight into a one best friendship. And the look back from Lex to Clark as Lex was hugging Lana at the end was wonderful.

[thorshammer]

This will probably be the last time we see them work together for any common good.

[SupeK]

I think Lex saved Clark because he still cares for Clark - despite Clark being a really crappy friend to him. Lex is a decent guy deep down in there and he couldn't let Clark die like that.

I don't think Lana had anything to do with his decision to save Clark. For once the world did not revolve around her.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Originally posted by SupeK
I think Lex saved Clark because he still cares for Clark - despite Clark being a really crappy friend to him. Lex is a decent guy deep down in there and he couldn't let Clark die like that.



:rotfl:

[caseybrn]

I think this was a great plot point...some good being left in Lex...Now hopefully Clark will be a little more trusting of him and than when Lex is completly evil, than it won't be Clark's fault

[wolverine316]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
^^^^I agree with that, plus Clark did save him about a million times......

Actually Clark saved his pathetic ass about a gazillion times

[Angelina2809]

I also think that Lex maybe thought that Claek camed down there to find and help him and now Clarks needed his help! I also think that a little good thing is still in Lex but it is hard to find! I seemed to be true that Clark was his only friend! Do you remember Lex's school time or childhood? Nobody camed to his birthday and at school many people wered very cruel to him because of his look. And in Smallville? Clark was the only one who always hold on to Lex and protected him and was there for him! They worked togethe well and in Nemesis they worked together again. I can understand Clark that he felt it was like they would be friends again! I think both miss this time! Even when the end showed us what Lex really had done I will try to believe what he had told Clark about their friendship! Both lied! First at all Lex saved Clark and than Clark had hold Lex as she was starting to fall down. Maybe Lex said the truth but would this forget us the things he had done to Lana, Chloe's Mum, Clark etc.?
Yes, the finale of season 6 will be sad! I also thought the same! Even if Lex lied it was good to see them so close again! Yes, I missed it! But what will happen next? What did Lionel told Lana? Will she leave Lex? Tell him that she married him becasue of Lionel and protecting Clark? But if she would do that she must explane what Lionel wanted to do. I am sure Clark will find out what Lionel had done, what Lana know about him! But I am not sure what Lex will find out or not find our about Clark!
Clarks also saved Lex many time after he catched Lana.

I am from germany so sorry if my english is not correctly!!!!

[Frosty]

Ok, follow me on this one.

First, re-watch the scene when Clark and Lex have reached the top of the escape ladder. Clark tries to open the hatch but cannot. Lex immediately lends a hand to open the hatch, like he already knew not one person alone could open the hatch.

Now, think about this...
I strongly believe Lex left Clark to die. Only for Lex to realize when he reached the hatch, he could not open it by himself. Lex decides he needs Clark's help. Upon his return to where Clark was trapped, Lex feeds Clark good ol MB-BS to sway Clark into thinking Lex was not going to leave him to die in the first place.

[Jlvsclrk]

Frosty, I'm not saying you're right but I'm sure not saying you're wrong. 'Cause after all, how hard would it have been for Lex to say "I'll be right back."

If he always did intend to come back, his silence to Clark's shouts are just a setup so he can play the "how could you doubt me" card. But on the other hand, it is typical of Lex that he is so blind to how his actions play out to other people that he really doesn't understand how his actions destroyed the friendship.

[Sweetie]

Originally posted by Jlvsclrk
Frosty, I'm not saying you're right but I'm sure not saying you're wrong. 'Cause after all, how hard would it have been for Lex to say "I'll be right back."

If he always did intend to come back, his silence to Clark's shouts are just a setup so he can play the "how could you doubt me" card. But on the other hand, it is typical of Lex that he is so blind to how his actions play out to other people that he really doesn't understand how his actions destroyed the friendship.



I agree.Lex is playing his last card just to see how Clark will react because he knows Clark will have second thought about the way he treat him in the past.But,I think this will turn on Lex when Clark will learn the truth about his plans.The war will begin for good :)

[Dannyblue1]

Frosty, I think if that's what the show wanted us to believe, they would've shown some hint of it. SV is hardly subtle when it comes to things like this. When they want the audience to believe something, they have a tendency to spell it out.

But, let's look at your theory. I have two arguments against it.

1. Would Lex have had time to run through the tunnels, climb the ladder, try to move the cover, climb all the way back down, find something to help free Clark, run back to where Clark was, etcetera, etcetera. Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to judge timing with the episode.

2. Why would Lex believe Clark, in his weakened state, would be able to help him do anything?

I think they put that scene there to very specifically show that the spark of good in Lex isn't completely gone. And, the thing is, in many canon incarnations of Lex (who is much more of a villain than current, SV Lex is) there remains a spark of goodness. In fact, villains are more complex and interesting that way.