Go Lana! (Merged)

[youandme]

I hate to say it, but in a sad way , what Lana did to Clark is what Clark did to her,,completely broke his heart. It was so sad when clark said "I waited for you...." aww I just wanted to eat him up!!!

[Gabreya]

:( :( :( :( Sniff,sniff

[idunowinks]

yea the way he delivered that line was like heart-wrenching...

[Smallville's Oracle]

Wait until Lana finds out what Lex did...............payback is a mutha!

[lildorkable004]

that was sooooooooooooooooooo sad!!!

[voytek]

Love her or hate her, she was smart tonight. She figured out Clark's secret all on her own. I love the way she set-up Chloe and Clark. Did she freak out? Nope. She was calm and moved by what she heard from Clark and it gave her the final push she needed to follow her heart. This episode proved that Clark is wrong. Lana can handle his secret. The world didn't end and she didn't die. I know that the movies and comics state that Clark will get with Lois, but we are not there yet and for six seasons Lana has been shown as the love of Clark's life. He was ready to tell her the secret when he saw it was the thing that destroyed their relationship. I get that Lana wants to protect Clark but TPTB are getting on my last nerve because they have now reversed the roles of Clark and Lana. She is now trying to protect him because she feels the secret can get him killed. GMAFB. I am sick of the writers and this yo-yo. Put them together or permanently break them up. No more longing looks. No more sad eyes and no more teasing. They are not teens anymore. They are adults. I am not a fan of showing scenes over and over from different p.o.v. but I thought they did a great job tonight. I as shocked as all hell to see Lana in that flashback p.o.v. But I said back in November she would discover the truth. I am thisclose to being done with the show though. I can't stand being jerked around.:rolleyes:

[lillie_poo_pod]

Simple ->> NO

[paolinki25]

6 seasons too late. Woohoo! Lana found out the secret...Who cares anymore? :rolleyes:

[InLove_with_Chloe]

You call that a scheme???
Oh my...
:lol:

[richard9820]

she is my hero now. I love lana now. now clark knows how she felt when he told her he didn't love her

[Peat Moss]

quote--I love the way she set-up Chloe and Clark

You love her locking Chloe in a closet? One should not "set up" her friends for her own gain.

[KryptonChick]

Yeah, i liked what she did:D

She was never going to get the truth from either Clark or Chloe, so they had it coming;)

[pissedoff]

Did anyone notice what looked like a glitch when Clark took off after his confrontation with Chloe. Instead of the usual blur we see when he speeds off all we got was him disapperaring. It looked like they forgot to add the blur after the cut.

[CaptainObvious]

I could hardly stand it! That look he gave her after the wedding, the tone of his voice when saying, "I waited for you"! It was heart wrenching! Sorry, I'm a Clana fan and wanted her to grab him and run!

[Rhoda123]

It was heart wrenching but why did the dumb ass wait until the day of her wedding if he loves her oh so much. Give me a break. This episode could have been done so much better!

[kal-el_Girl]

of course I was surprise I never thought she was that smart! finally show some brains, good girl *talks like she's talking to shelby* *evil laughter*

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

Lana has gone over to the "ends justifies the means" side.
Can't wait to see when she finds out about the baby.

[Kryptonian-Ronin]

I felt a pain, deep down, too....then I realized it was hunger, had a sandwich and was fine.
I think Clark should have a nice sandwich, he'd forget all about whatshername.

[Coyote]

I think Clark would rather have pie.

[98chase]

Originally posted by paolinki25
6 seasons too late. Woohoo! Lana found out the secret...Who cares anymore? :rolleyes:
I do.



Were people this pissed when Chloe took it upon herself to follow Clark to the FOS?

[lildorkable004]

[i]

Were people this pissed when Chloe took it upon herself to follow Clark to the FOS? [/B]

i totally agree with you! so i say yay for lana!

[98chase]

Originally posted by Rhoda123
It was heart wrenching but why did the dumb ass wait until the day of her wedding if he loves her oh so much. Give me a break.
Sometimes people don't act until they are "forced" to. Sometimes it is the realization that you are going to loose something forever that makes you realize how much you really care.

[ClarksGal]

It was pretty sad. I couldn't help thinking that Lana now knows how hard it was for Clark to break it off with her a year ago. They spoke very similar lines. And now Clark knows how Lana felt.

[msleggie]

Posted by youandme: I hate to say it, but in a sad way , what Lana did to Clark is what Clark did to her,,completely broke his heart. It was so sad when clark said "I waited for you...." aww I just wanted to eat him up!!!

That's so true, I didn't think of that while I was watching the episode. I remember the final breakup between clark and lana when lana told clark that she waited for him to open up to her.

[smallvilleobsessor17]

It was sad......

[smallvilleobsessor17]

It's really not that big a deal.....

[msleggie]

I'm not particularly fond of Lana, but that trick she pulled with Chloe was perfect. Lana knew Chloe was going to immediatley turn to Clark for help. I'm impressed with what Lana did, she's actually starting to show that she has a brain! Now lets get her using it more often

[mobiusklein]

I think it's rotten, considering how many people booed Lex when he tried to pull something similar.

[mobiusklein]

I'm laughing and laughing.

[supermanfan04]

whatever, that plan took some brains and i'm so glad she did it. she found out all for herself about clark, we all knew she eventually would! and as for what clark said about her, how awesome was that for her to hear? now she finally knows why clark has been the way he has with her in the past.

[mobiusklein]

And now she can lie on her bed and get boned by Lex. Congrats, Lana.

[pissedoff]

In most superman mythology she does find out on her own. the most receit being the cartoon on WB she figured it out because of all the thing he did when they where kids. So don't be to pissed at least they held true to something.

[mobiusklein]

What the hell ever. It's not like they held true to convention with her not being a redhead, being the damn Alpha and Omega of womankind and making her the Typhoid Mary of whatever the heck it is that kills her boyfriends and their fathers.

[voytek]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
You call that a scheme???
Oh my...
:lol:

Let's see. Scheme: a noun; a plan, design, or program of action to be followed; project Uh yeah I do. And it worked.

[mobiusklein]

By becoming a liar, hypocrite and using her friend as bait. She truly deserves to be a Luthor. Maybe next time she'll do something that gets Chloe killed and go Oopsy-doodle.

[friday]

Originally posted by supermanfan04
whatever, that plan took some brains and i'm so glad she did it. she found out all for herself about clark, we all knew she eventually would! and as for what clark said about her, how awesome was that for her to hear? now she finally knows why clark has been the way he has with her in the past.

Yes, Lana finding out from Clark and Chloe's conversation about his secret and why he never told her his secret was awesome!! I loved that scene.

[STFanatic]

Originally posted by mobiusklein
What the hell ever. It's not like they held true to convention with her not being a redhead, being the damn Alpha and Omega of womankind and making her the Typhoid Mary of whatever the heck it is that kills her boyfriends and their fathers.

The redhead thing was the first hurdle for me to get over when the series premired, I slowly accepted it, then came the Pete Ross character not being a Nordic blonde, I moved past that too.

I have taken an ocean of salt during the series and moved on.

Even though I complain about many things on Smallville, I am still a fan and will wait out the series until the finale.

But it does get hard to mantain composure when they slap me in the face with glaring inconsistancies.

[98chase]

Maybe that's why the show doesn't irritate me. I really didn't follow superman that closely before. I mean, I saw the Christopher Reeves movies, but it's not like I followed the comics. Because of this, I do not go into anything Smallville related with expectations. I go with the flow, as opposed to predicting where the flow will take me and getting disappointed when I don't end up where I thought I would.


Anyone follow that?

[greatceasarsghost]

Originally posted by friday
Yes, Lana finding out from Clark and Chloe's conversation about his secret and why he never told her his secret was awesome!! I loved that scene.

Yeah it was good and now like someone else said she has to live in misery with no good lex.

Originally posted by pissedoff
Did anyone notice what looked like a glitch when Clark took off after his confrontation with Chloe. Instead of the usual blur we see when he speeds off all we got was him disapperaring. It looked like they forgot to add the blur after the cut.

No Glitch. We see it as the audience and that's why we see the blur. That scene was lana's perspective as a human in person, no blur. He is just so fast that he appears to disappear.

btw the poll would have made more sense if you uses discover instead of reveal. gave the wrong impression.

[voytek]

Originally posted by mobiusklein
And now she can lie on her bed and get boned by Lex. Congrats, Lana.

I find it so interesting how people understood and defended Clark when he lied to Lana repeated and broke up with her to save her life. People called it heroic, brave and the ultimate sacrifice. Lana has done the exact same thing and comments like this are made. I swear the Lana hate here seems to trump all. We all saw that she wants to be with Clark and planned to leave Lex on their wedding day. Why didn't she follow through with that? Because Lionel Luthor threatened to kill the man that she loves. He has been dropping hints about Clark's secret and she believed he would make good on it. So rather than risk his life, she sacrificed her own happiness and married a man she loves but isn't IN love with. Yes, I believe she does have love for Lex. But it doesn't hold a candle to what she feels for Clark.:rolleyes:

[Ilovebeinglost]

She has suspected for a long long time and she thought it was due to the meteor rocks. Even after freaks she still thought there was something with him.

I'm thinking what about cameras in the wine cellar. Wouldn't Lex have security cameras which holds expensive wines? Will that come out or did the writers miss that little detail

[98chase]

Originally posted by voytek
I find it so interesting how people understood and defended Clark when he lied to Lana repeated and broke up with her to save her life. People called it heroic and the ultimate sacrifice. Lana has done the exact same thing and comments like this are made. I swear the Lana hate here seems to trump all. We all saw that she wants to be Clark and planned to leave Lex on their wedding day. Why didn't she follow through with that? Because Lionel Luthor threatened to kill the man that she loves. He has been dropping hints about Clark's secret and she believed he would make good on it. So rather than risk his life, she sacrificed her own happiness and married a man she loves but isn't IN love with. Yes, I believe she does have love for Lex. But it doesn't hold a candle to what she feels for Clark.:rolleyes:
Agreed. Also, it is possible for one to love someone, but not be in love with them. Lana cares about and loves Lex. But, I don't think that she is in love with him. The passion that comes with being "in love" with someone isn't there.

[PKII]

no. she should have did it a long time ago.

:rolleyes:

[98chase]

Originally posted by Ilovebeinglost
She has suspected for a long long time and she thought it was due to the meteor rocks. Even after freaks she still thought there was something with him.

I'm thinking what about cameras in the wine cellar. Wouldn't Lex have security cameras which holds expensive wines? Will that come out or did the writers miss that little detail
I don't think they missed anything. If I were a multi-millionaire/billionaire, I wouldn't be sweating some wine. Yeah, a $600 bottle of wine is expensive to you and me, but to the Luther's $600 can hardly be considered pocket change.

[Ginx]

Originally posted by mobiusklein
By becoming a liar, hypocrite and using her friend as bait. She truly deserves to be a Luthor. Maybe next time she'll do something that gets Chloe killed and go Oopsy-doodle.

Well - she did lie and scheme but she didn't do it with the intention of causing trouble for her friends she just wanted to know for her own reasons. And I hardly think that Lana would have let Chloe freeze to death - she hung out close by and eventually if Clark didn't show then she would have let her out. And Chloe did try Lana's phone first then Clarks, so Lana could have always called her back to find out what the problem was (if Clark didn't show).

I think the whole thing falls into the category of a 'necessary evil' to find out the truth. It's funny that with all the booze that Lex doesn't have cameras or security down there - or maybe he does.....:p

[friday]

Originally posted by 98chase
Agreed. Also, it is possible for one to love someone, but not be in love with them. Lana cares about and loves Lex. But, I don't think that she is in love with him. The passion that comes with being "in love" with someone isn't there.

ITA.

no. she should have did it a long time ago.

Lana thinks she's pregnant with Lex's baby. That complicates things.

[PKII]

Originally posted by pissedoff
Did anyone notice what looked like a glitch when Clark took off after his confrontation with Chloe. Instead of the usual blur we see when he speeds off all we got was him disapperaring. It looked like they forgot to add the blur after the cut. I seen it. I thought maybe they were just showing what Lana seen. We in tv land see the blur cuz its a special effect. Lana would have just seen him disappear. ;)

Originally posted by mobiusklein
And now she can lie on her bed and get boned by Lex. Congrats, Lana. Just because she married him don't mean she has to sleep with him. :D Lana is rich now she will spend all her time giving Lex's money away. :rotfl:

[BadToad]

Well, it certainly makes her a match for Lex.

After all, Lex too felt he was entitled to know Clark's secret, so he set up a situation where Clark would have to show his superpowers by putting someone he cared about in a perilous situation (granted, he went further). For that, Clark punched him out.

Lana felt like she was entitled to know Clark's secret, so she set up a situation where Clark would have to show his superpowers by putting someone in a perilous situation. For that? Clark will probably just kiss her a**

[jaime,oburg]

Originally posted by 98chase
I don't think they missed anything. If I were a multi-millionaire/billionaire, I wouldn't be sweating some wine. Yeah, a $600 bottle of wine is expensive to you and me, but to the Luther's $600 can hardly be considered pocket change.
Just like 2 million bucks is pocket change for a billionair. Lex just should have paid the blackmailing doc and offed him later. Lex just isn't thinking like his usual evil genuis self. The MB said it best when he suggested Lana has made a desperate man out of lex.

[98chase]

Originally posted by jaime,oburg
Just like 2 million bucks is pocket change for a billionair. Lex just should have paid the blackmailing doc and offed him later. Lex just isn't thinking like his usual evil genuis self. The MB said it best when he suggested Lana has made a desperate man out of lex.
Agreed. He could have easily payed the $2 million. However, that falls in a different category. The first category is wine, no worries. The second category (the $2 million) is blackmail. We've already seen that the Luthor's do not negotiate with hostage situations. Why should it be different with blackmail?

[mobiusklein]

Seriously, Clark should deck Lana.

[jaime,oburg]

The Luthors shouldn't give into blackmail, that would definetely fall into the out of character category. I just think Lex could have handled the situation better by pretending to be over a barrel, make the blackmailing doc think he would wire the money and then kill him at a more convient time. Lex's hands were sort of bound at the time, he was about to get married in minutes when the doc made his threat. Lex panicked, that was really out of character.

[Ginx]

Originally posted by jaime,oburg
Just like 2 million bucks is pocket change for a billionair. Lex just should have paid the blackmailing doc and offed him later. Lex just isn't thinking like his usual evil genuis self. The MB said it best when he suggested Lana has made a desperate man out of lex.

Well - I know that the Luthors don't give into blackmail - but since that doc was the only doc assisting with the pregnacy, Lex now has to go off and find a new doc and get him to monitor Lana or whatever they are trying to do with the baby. It would have just been easier to give the doc the money and deal with him later instead of FREAKIN OUT on the doc.

And it's it just gonna be another red flag that her doc is now dead or missing.....oh wait.....I forgot, Lana doesn't see the signs until someone puts it right in her face..... :\

[BlueNRed2]

Impressed? not really but glad to have at least a partial resolution to that particular arc.

[voytek]

Originally posted by BadToad
Well, it certainly makes her a match for Lex.

After all, Lex too felt he was entitled to know Clark's secret, so he set up a situation where Clark would have to show his superpowers by putting someone he cared about in a perilous situation (granted, he went further). For that, Clark punched him out.

Lana felt like she was entitled to know Clark's secret, so she set up a situation where Clark would have to show his superpowers by putting someone in a perilous situation. For that? Clark will probably just kiss her a**

Why were Pete and Chloe entitled but Lana isn't? Like it or not Clark told his parents that the one person he has always wanted to tell was Lana. He hates hiding and wants her to see the real him. He told her last season and she didn't stoop to any tricks. What she did didn't harm anyone. Chloe was only in there for 10 minutes tops. I think it means something that she has never freaked out over learning the secret. It's because she knows deep down he is different. I mean Lana fell about 200 feet and he caught her. Um, that's not possible for a "normal" person. Clark has gone to Lana time and time again asking her to trust him or to reveal what she know about situations and 99% of the time she gave him what he asked for. It is obvious he is hiding a major secret and it's not like he is the best liar. She outsmarted Clark and Chloe and even Lana haters have to concede that! :lol:

[98chase]

Originally posted by voytek
Why were Pete and Chloe entitled but Lana isn't? Like it or not Clark told his parents that the one person he has always wanted to tell was Lana. He hates hiding and wants her to see the real him. He told her last season and she didn't stoop to any tricks. What she did didn't harm anyone. Chloe was only in there for 10 minutes tops. I think it means something that she has never freaked out over learning the secret. It's because she knows deep down he is different. I mean Lana fell about 200 feet and he caught her. Um, that's not possible for a "normal" person. Clark has gone to Lana time and time again asking her to trust him or to reveal what she know about situations and 99% of the time she gave him what he asked for. It is obvious he is hiding a major secret and it's not like he is the best liar. She outsmarted Clark and Chloe and even Lana haters have to concede that! :lol:
The 200 feet, are you talking about "Trespass"? If so, that was 20 - 25ft max. It is still impossible to catch someone falling from that height, but 200ft was just off a little.

[MetroGirl06]

Wow, after six seasons she FINALLY figured out his secret! Yeah, shes REAL smart.

I thought the scheme was kinda adolecent, it wasn't anything cool like when chloe saw clark catch the car, now THAT was interesting.

[richard9820]

she was being tormented by thoughts of the tornado, how was she saved

[Bat_Lantern]

Sorry to say I don't think it was a brilliant plan. I've never seen Chloe use Clark's abilities in such an awkward and trivial way. Don't get me wrong I liked the episode a bunch but this was the only writing that seemed just a bit weak to me. Now if Chloe was in the habit of calling Clark every time her pizza was late, needed help carrying groceries, couldn't find her lipstick or needed to open a door in a non-perilous situation.. then this display of powers would have been normal. Just seemed a tad bit lazy in the writing department..
Now before I get flamed I do want to say this is the best written episode with a large LANA part that I have witnessed in YEARS. I actually enjoyed seeing her acting in a way other than "breathless and scared". :o) seriously tho she did a great job and they gave the actress a much better story and script to work with.

[mobiusklein]

But only by destroying everybody else.

[a silent liaison]

Technically, didn't she find out in the dream sequence? But, in reality, all Clark said was something to the effect of ''You're right, Lana.... I'm not like everyone else!''

If I'm wrong, pardon me. This episode was rather difficult to register.

[Bumperjeep]

the whole setup thing REALLY frustrated me. We have been waiting 6 years for her to discover the secret and the best they can do is this?! its kind of sad. this episode was good, but i didn't like it. compare this to reckoning. reckoning was much more powerful

[STFanatic]

I actually liked "Rekoning".
The worse IMO was the bug guy episode.

[smallvillefreak24]

U GO GIRL!

[foreversmallville]

I don't think that Lana did anything that any other person wouldn't have done in her shoes. She needed to know...and she still loves Clark.

[monet]

Yeah I love that she put matters into her own hands. However, it is a shame that it took 6 seasons. And all that talk about morals, she still had to be bad.

[Jlvsclrk]

I couldn't answer the question because it isn't yes or no. Per her conversation with Nell, Lana wanted to find out in a way that was "fair and honourable" but couldn't. Sheer self preservation drove her to do something that was just a teeny bit outside the lines: not in the sense that Chloe was in trouble, but because she was using one friend to find out a secret that she knows neither one wants to share with her.

So she finds out, and realises that the secret is something greater than she could ever have imagined, and that Clark's intentions were good even if the consequences were not because of her initial anger. And she starts to add up things about her relationship with Lex and knows she cannot go through with it.

Then the kicker: she learns that she didn't have to resort to subterfuge anyway. Clark shows up prepared to share his secret! It must have made her love him more, and then to have Lionel almost immediately turn the tables... Heartbreak. There are very few times in this series where I've felt as much for Lana.

[BadToad]

Why were Pete and Chloe entitled but Lana isn't?

NO ONE is entitled to Clark's secret. Not one single soul. Clark has the choice to confide in people, or not. If they find out by doing something underhanded and sneaky, he has every right to freak out on them and be pissed. Lana is entitled to NOTHING.

Like it or not Clark told his parents that the one person he has always wanted to tell was Lana. He hates hiding and wants her to see the real him.

If all this true, and how Clark really feels, then he would've told her in his time. Imagine that, HIS secret in HIS timerframe, when HE feels comfortable enough. Actually, if Lana hadn't gone behind his back and did something underhanded and sneaky, she would still have gotten what she wanted in this episode. Instead, she decided to pull a "Luthor", and set someone up.

I think I'm convinced, Lex and Lana DO make a great couple.

He told her last season and she didn't stoop to any tricks.

Well, no, but she did run off to console Lex and ended up getting herself killed.

What she did didn't harm anyone. Chloe was only in there for 10 minutes tops.

Oh, OK then. Its OK to use people...as long as you don't harm them.

She outsmarted Clark and Chloe and even Lana haters have to concede that!

Oh, most definitely. Lana lied, and connived to find out Clark's secret. Go Lana! What a gem you are.

[Bosrudorfer]

Originally posted by paolinki25
6 seasons too late. Woohoo! Lana found out the secret...Who cares anymore? :rolleyes:

Ahem.

Plus she didnt follow her heart, if she did she wouldn't have married Lex.

[emogirl*88]

Originally posted by paolinki25
6 seasons too late. Woohoo! Lana found out the secret...Who cares anymore? :rolleyes:

well obviously shes not gonna find out in the first season. like kristin said, if lana finds out the secret too soon theres going to be no point to the show. smallville would have been gone a long time ago if that happened.

[voytek]

Originally posted by MetroGirl06
Wow, after six seasons she FINALLY figured out his secret! Yeah, shes REAL smart.

I thought the scheme was kinda adolecent, it wasn't anything cool like when chloe saw clark catch the car, now THAT was interesting.

Did Chloe come up with that plan? Nope. She did not.

[Jack-El49]

Originally posted by pissedoff
Did anyone notice what looked like a glitch when Clark took off after his confrontation with Chloe. Instead of the usual blur we see when he speeds off all we got was him disapperaring. It looked like they forgot to add the blur after the cut.

I don't htink it was a glitch - rather him disappearing from Lana's point of view. We see the blur from the viewer's point of view. In this case, we got to see what it looked like from a character''s point of view. Pretty cool, I thought. No swoosh, no blur - just a fluttering paper and he disappeared.

Originally posted by BadToad
NO ONE is entitled to Clark's secret. Not one single soul. Clark has the choice to confide in people, or not. If they find out by doing something underhanded and sneaky, he has every right to freak out on them and be pissed. Lana is entitled to NOTHING.



If all this true, and how Clark really feels, then he would've told her in his time. Imagine that, HIS secret in HIS timerframe, when HE feels comfortable enough. Actually, if Lana hadn't gone behind his back and did something underhanded and sneaky, she would still have gotten what she wanted in this episode. Instead, she decided to pull a "Luthor", and set someone up.

I think I'm convinced, Lex and Lana DO make a great couple.



Well, no, but she did run off to console Lex and ended up getting herself killed.



Oh, OK then. Its OK to use people...as long as you don't harm them.



Oh, most definitely. Lana lied, and connived to find out Clark's secret. Go Lana! What a gem you are.

Wow - maybe we should call this ChloeSite or the show, Chloeville. Then, Lex could be the good guy, Lana the villain, Clark just some dumb hick, and of course, the perfect Chloe the heroine who is so virtuous that all she ever does is expose meteor-infected people in the school newspaper and spy on the guy she's supposed to love because he jilts her at the high school dance.

[LuthorKent90]

Not really... They should've just had her figure it out sooner.

[voytek]

Originally posted by Jack-El49
I don't htink it was a glitch - rather him disappearing from Lana's point of view. We see the blur from the viewer's point of view. In this case, we got to see what it looked like from a character''s point of view. Pretty cool, I thought. No swoosh, no blur - just a fluttering paper and he disappeared.



Wow - maybe we should call this ChloeSite or the show, Chloeville. Then, Lex could be the good guy, Lana the villain, Clark just some dumb hick, and of course, the perfect Chloe the heroine who is so virtuous that all she ever does is expose meteor-infected people in the school newspaper and spy on the guy she's supposed to love because he jilts her at the high school dance.

Exactly! Isn't it funny how people conveniently forget that Chloe did her own investigation on Clark and betrayed him by working with Lionel Luthor. But shhhhhh. We're not supposed to talk about that because that has been swept under the rug. But Lana is called out for every little move she makes. The girl did what she had to do to learn the truth and aside from a few minutes of chattering teeth, Chloe is no worse for wear. I get there is Lana hate. We all like who we like, but it's so obvious that it makes people biased against her. She loves Clark and Chloe is her best friend. She would sooner help than hurt either one of them.

[TheRowdy]

No, I was appaled, how low can you go Lana?

[emogirl*88]

Originally posted by voytek
Exactly! Isn't it funny how people conveniently forget that Chloe did her own investigation on Clark and betrayed him by working with Lionel Luthor. But shhhhhh. We're not supposed to talk about that because that has been swept under the rug. But Lana is called out for every little move she makes. The girl did what she had to do to learn the truth and aside from a few minutes of chattering teeth, Chloe is no worse for wear. I get there is Lana hate. We all like who we like, but it's so obvious that it makes people biased against her. She loves Clark and Chloe is her best friend. She would sooner help than hurt either one of them.


TOTALLY AGREE.

[redraven]

^^I also agree. And I enjoyed Smart Lana...we need more of her and her little schemes. :D

[Joelito]

Evil is evil.

Lana is a grown lady, she could tell Clark the true.

Beside, this is whi I don't want Chlark in romantic way: Imagine Clark as Chloe and Lana as Clark... that's why, heart breaking in a second.

[BadToad]

Wow - maybe we should call this ChloeSite or the show, Chloeville.

Well, you could if you want to..but don't use my post to make that assertion. I'm a CLARK fan. Chloe is fine, but I'm certainly not all about her. I certainly don't go around justifying everything she does.

Exactly! Isn't it funny how people conveniently forget that Chloe did her own investigation on Clark and betrayed him by working with Lionel Luthor. But shhhhhh. We're not supposed to talk about that because that has been swept under the rug.

Hey, even a non-Chloe fan can field this silly comparison....now, how old was Chloe when she did this? And did she, or did she not regret the decision? And did this decision actually lead Chloe to the truth about Clark, and did Chloe actually give Lionel any damaging evidence?

The facts are on the show itself.

The girl did what she had to do to learn the truth and aside from a few minutes of chattering teeth, Chloe is no worse for wear.

The girl isn't justifying in stooping to any means because she's decided that she's entitled to a truth that Clark chooses not to share with her. She's not justified in using underhanded means to get that information. No more then Chloe was...and Clark tore her head off for it. No more then Lex was...and Clark tore his head off for it. NO ONE is justified in snooping in Clark's life, and setting him (or Chloe) up in situation to get answers you believe you are entitled to.

It is WRONG no matter who does it. It was wrong for Chloe (and she STOPPED), it was wrong for Lex. Its was wrong for Lana.

Seems like a lot of characters fans are absolutely unwilling to call their favs out on any bad behavior they are guilty of.

She loves Clark and Chloe is her best friend. She would sooner help than hurt either one of them.

Cool, part of loving people, and wanting to protect them is also respecting their privacy, and their unwillingness to open up about certain things. If you truly love someone, you don't go behind their back and spy on them. You don't stalk around their home. You don't go through their drawers. And you don't use one friend to set up another so you can get some truth you personally feel you are entitled to.

Again, NO ONE is entitled to Clark's secret. He has the right to confide his truth to who he chooses.

And the fact that no one on this show will ever, ever call Lana out for doing what she did is precisely the reason some people, like myself, have such a hard time rooting for this character. It is incredibly difficult to root for a character who never gets called on her crap. IMO

[redraven]

Originally posted by BadToad
And the fact that no one on this show will ever, ever call Lana out for doing what she did is precisely the reason some people, like myself, have such a hard time rooting for this character. It is incredibly difficult to root for a character who never gets called on her crap. IMO

:rotfl:

No one calls Lana out?! Riiight...she gets called out at every opportunity, even downright bashed for practically everything she does.

[BadToad]

No one calls Lana out?! Riiight...she gets called out at every opportunity, even downright bashed for practically everything she does.

On the show? By the other characters? Really? Not that I've noticed. Like when?

[redraven]

I'm such an idiot, seriously...I was in a rush to read it and uh...didn't really read the 'the show' part. :o

2nd time I did something like that...but um...you're right about that actually. :\

[myankskent]

Originally posted by redraven
I'm such an idiot, seriously...I was in a rush to read it and uh...didn't really read the 'the show' part. :o

2nd time I did something like that...but um...you're right about that actually. :\

That's ok...just as long as you know that you can't do that more than two times so if it happens again...bad news for you.

J/k:)

[BadToad]

I'm such an idiot, seriously

No, not at all...you have TW in your avatar, you must be OK ;)

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by paolinki25
6 seasons too late. Woohoo! Lana found out the secret...Who cares anymore? :rolleyes:

I care. I am so happy she knows the secret...an emotional time for me. :)

[voytek]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BadToad
Well, you could if you want to..but don't use my post to make that assertion. I'm a CLARK fan. Chloe is fine, but I'm certainly not all about her. I certainly don't go around justifying everything she does.



Hey, even a non-Chloe fan can field this silly comparison....now, how old was Chloe when she did this? And did she, or did she not regret the decision? And did this decision actually lead Chloe to the truth about Clark, and did Chloe actually give Lionel any damaging evidence?


Seems like a lot of characters fans are absolutely unwilling to call their favs out on any bad behavior they are guilty of.


Again, NO ONE is [b]entitled to Clark's secret. He has the right to confide his truth to who he chooses.
What's silly is bringing up age. It doesn't matter if Chloe was a teen when she did it. She still BETRAYED Clark. Age doesn't excuse it and it sure doesn't erase it or make it worse that Lana is an adult. She didn't work with Clark's enemy behind his back. No that was Chloe and Clark was furious with her. I don't think he will be angry with Lana. She did what she had to do. Chloe's motive was revenge. Lana's was curiosity. I call Lana out when I think she's wrong. It was wrong for her to deceive Chloe about getting with Clark when she knew how Chloe felt. You notice I didn't use your argument that Lana was younger back then.

[Bonita_LovesSuperman]

Yeh doesnt Matter what age if you do it.. you can't change the past, but well Everyone will get over lana and bag someone else:) probably bag lionel next, how evil he will get:D

[richard9820]

Originally posted by voytek
I find it so interesting how people understood and defended Clark when he lied to Lana repeated and broke up with her to save her life. People called it heroic, brave and the ultimate sacrifice. Lana has done the exact same thing and comments like this are made. I swear the Lana hate here seems to trump all. We all saw that she wants to be with Clark and planned to leave Lex on their wedding day. Why didn't she follow through with that? Because Lionel Luthor threatened to kill the man that she loves. He has been dropping hints about Clark's secret and she believed he would make good on it. So rather than risk his life, she sacrificed her own happiness and married a man she loves but isn't IN love with. Yes, I believe she does have love for Lex. But it doesn't hold a candle to what she feels for Clark.:rolleyes: why does she love lex again? She knows he's a monster

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by richard9820
why does she love lex again? She knows he's a monster
For 6 years she's been falling for the wrong guys. Every single time...
Time for Pete to come back, IMO.

[richard9820]

she is emotionally imbalance seems to me, and no Pete please

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by richard9820
....and no Pete please
Hehe, it's canon. You know it...

[Bonita_LovesSuperman]

ewww pete with lana NO WAY..clana one more time...eww Plana haha

[richard9820]

Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Hehe, it's canon. You know it... nothing about this show is canon

[InLove_with_Chloe]

Originally posted by richard9820
nothing about this show is canon
Yeah.
<sigh.>
Especially now that SDK is leaving...

[Peat Moss]

The difference between Chloe and Lana is this--Chloe started out annoying but improved, became a better person. Lana is getting worse. She's stooping lower and lower to find out something she has no business knowing. But Clark likes dark hair, so no one criticizes her (on the show)

[SnarkMasterJ]

Oh great. The Chloe betrayal storyline. Not like I didn't see this one coming up a mile away.

Like Bad Toad said, it's not a defendable time in Chloe's life, but given how the whole situation unfolded, and the fact that Chloe was actually repentant over her betrayal, she was allowed to redeem herself and it was believable. No, you can't change the past, but it stays the past if you work for a better future. Chloe did, and she succeeded.

Contrarily, for Lana, the entire plot ran its course, and she never ONCE felt bad for what she did. All she cared about was that she now thought she knew Clark's secret. Like all aspects in her life are so utterly dependent on knowing something about somebody else. That's not admirable, or understandable...that's unstable. And she should be held responsible for her methods, but she won't be. Precisely why I care even less for her now than I did before. No one wants to see a character canonized into sainthood when there is such obvious evidence to the contrary.

[SnarkMasterJ]

That's really strange. It seems like the thread is eating posts.

[Krypton935]

I thought how she set it up was great. I really liked it. when they went back in time or whatever and showed her shutting the door I was like "Holy Krypton! It was her!!" I thought it was really cool.

[voytek]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
Oh great. The Chloe betrayal storyline. Not like I didn't see this one coming up a mile away.

Like Bad Toad said, it's not a defendable time in Chloe's life, but given how the whole situation unfolded, and the fact that Chloe was actually repentant over her betrayal, she was allowed to redeem herself and it was believable. No, you can't change the past, but it stays the past if you work for a better future. Chloe did, and she succeeded.

Contrarily, for Lana, the entire plot ran its course, and she never ONCE felt bad for what she did. All she cared about was that she now thought she knew Clark's secret. Like all aspects in her life are so utterly dependent on knowing something about somebody else. That's not admirable, or understandable...that's unstable. And she should be held responsible for her methods, but she won't be. Precisely why I care even less for her now than I did before. No one wants to see a character canonized into sainthood when there is such obvious evidence to the contrary.

Again I ask. Whom did Lana hurt with her plan? Nobody. There is nothing for her to feel bad about. Now had Chloe gotten frostbite or injured somehow that would be a different story. She called Lana and then called Clark and he got there in under two minutes. What harm was done?

I bring out the Chloe betrayal because it is a fact. She betrayed. No amount of explaining or spinning can change that. She betrayed Clark. She redeemed herself but she still did what she did to hurt him because she was angry. Lana didn't act out of anger. That is the difference. Chloe was out to hurt Clark becaus she was hurt. Lana was out for the truth. And she IS entitled because Clark keeps claiming he loves her and blah blah blah and Stevie Wonder can see the man is hiding something huge. To make matters worse, he keeps waivering in telling her and she can feel it. That is why what Lana did cannot be compared to what Chloe did. Lana acted alone. Chloe seeked out Clark's enemy. Defend that!

[myankskent]

Originally posted by voytek
Again I ask. Whom did Lana hurt with her plan? Nobody. There is nothing for her to feel bad about. Now had Chloe gotten frostbite or injured somehow that would be a different story. She called Lana and then called Clark and he got there in under two minutes. What harm was done?

I bring out the Chloe betrayal because it is a fact. She betrayed. No amount of explaining or spinning can change that. She betrayed Clark. She redeemed herself but she still did what she did to hurt him because she was angry. Lana didn't act out of anger. That is the difference. Chloe was out to hurt Clark becaus she was hurt. Lana was out for the truth. And she IS entitled because Clark keeps claiming he loves her and blah blah blah and Stevie Wonder can see the man is hiding something huge. To make matters worse, he keeps waivering in telling her and she can feel it. That is why what Lana did cannot be compared to what Chloe did. Lana acted alone. Chloe seeked out Clark's enemy. Defend that!

I have to agree with you here. Those two situations cannot be compared at all.

[SnarkMasterJ]

I never compared them. Someone else brought them up to paint Chloe in a negative light when really this situation has nothing to do with Chloe. It's about Lana. Drudging up every bad thing a character has done doesn't deal with the issue at hand and why Lana isn't being held responsible for her actions. Chloe sure was, and apparently is still being held responsible.

I've never excused what she did, but the constant rehash is ridiculous. Lana should be allowed to move on from her past and rectify her situation with Lex and possibly redeem her own life? Chloe should be granted the same favor.

And really, if people want to discuss spinning, anyone can put whatever spin they want on the situation, but the fact of the matter was that Lana was going to marry Lex of her own volition, and if Clark hadn't told her his secret by then, he wasn't going to tell her. She's not entitled to know because they weren't together. She didn't give her word to Clark; she gave her word to Lex. And she should've honored that.

What Lana did was wrong. She tricked Chloe and went behind both Clark's and Chloe's back to find out Clark's secret (and she used Chloe because she knew he would come to her and he would trust her...weird). Surprise surprise, not all harm is physical harm.

[freefall]

This whole Lana locking Chloe up thing is just another proof Chloe is only being a big plot device on this show, so that Lana could find out about Clark's superspeeding and heat vision.

Originally posted by BadToad
Again, NO ONE is entitled to Clark's secret. He has the right to confide his truth to who he chooses.


I'm of that opinion too, just look how everyone gave him crap and kept digging about his secret in the earlier seasons.

But the fact that he himself had made his own conscious decision to be in a romantic relationship with a girl, to the point of having sex with her, automatically stripped away that right to keep his secret from her. He simply strings her along, and when he decided to break up, he doesn't even have the decency to simply say, "I want to break up because I can't tell the truth" and gave that whole "I don't love you" BS instead.

There's a huge difference between keeping a secret from a friend, and keeping a secret from a lover/spouse. The former gives you the right not to tell anything if you don't want to, but not so with the latter.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ

What Lana did was wrong. She tricked Chloe and went behind both Clark's and Chloe's back to find out Clark's secret (and she used Chloe because she knew he would come to her and he would trust her...weird). Surprise surprise, not all harm is physical harm.

I agree that what Lana did was wrong, but IMO, if she apologizes to Chloe for locking her in the room that should be enough. If Chloe doesn't want to accept the apology, I won't fault her character because she was manipulated.

Originally posted by seacrystal

But the fact that he himself had made his own conscious decision to be in a romantic relationship with a girl, to the point of having sex with her, automatically stripped away that right to keep his secret from her. He simply strings her along, and when he decided to break up, he doesn't even have the decency to simply say, "I want to break up because I can't tell the truth" and gave that whole "I don't love you" BS instead.

There's a huge difference between keeping a secret from a friend, and keeping a secret from a lover/spouse. The former gives you the right not to tell anything if you don't want to, but not so with the latter.

Totally agree with you here seacrystal.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by seacrystal
But the fact that he himself had made his own conscious decision to be in a romantic relationship with a girl, to the point of having sex with her, automatically stripped away that right to keep his secret from her. He simply strings her along, and when he decided to break up, he doesn't even have the decency to simply say, "I want to break up because I can't tell the truth" and gave that whole "I don't love you" BS instead.

There's a huge difference between keeping a secret from a friend, and keeping a secret from a lover/spouse. The former gives you the right not to tell anything if you don't want to, but not so with the latter.

I agree with this in as much as it deals with the events of Season 5. Sadly, since Clark was a coward and didn't deal with his and Lana's relationship in a considerate way, he forfeited his chance and his right to be in her life. And on the opposite side, Lana gave up on him and sided with Lex completely. So she, too, severed the connection, and any right she would have to know Clark's secret

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
I agree with this in as much as it deals with the events of Season 5. Sadly, since Clark was a coward and didn't deal with his and Lana's relationship in a considerate way, he forfeited his chance and his right to be in her life. And on the opposite side, Lana gave up on him and sided with Lex completely. So she, too, severed the connection, and any right she would have to know Clark's secret

Well then really, what it boils down to is this. Lana had no right to find out the truth about Clark in Promise and Clark had no right to tell her the truth in Promise on her wedding day. Both made mistakes and their actions cancel each other out so that no one person is more wrong than the other in this episode.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by myankskent
Well then really, what it boils down to is this. Lana had no right to find out the truth about Clark in Promise and Clark had no right to tell her the truth in Promise on her wedding day. Both made mistakes and their actions cancel each other out so that no one person is more wrong than the other in this episode.

Oh believe me. I have my hot can of whoop-a$$ ready and waiting for Clark. I'm ever-so furious at him, and really, since the show is supposed to be about him, his actions are definitely inexcusable.

But I think it's fair to say he was just another character sacrificed for the sake of making Lana look like she was doing everyone favors with her actions, when in truth, she really wasn't. The whole episode had an overwhelming Lana focus, so I don't find it strange that her actions are what's being talked about the most.

Honestly, she set the dominos in motion. She locked Chloe in the wine cellar, and everything followed after that -- the inane Chloe speech, Clark going to Martha, Clark then coming back to see Lana. She was clearly in the driver's seat in that ep. Until Lionel tossed her out while the car was still moving. Magnificent Bastard, and all.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ

Honestly, she set the dominos in motion. She locked Chloe in the wine cellar, and everything followed after that -- the inane Chloe speech, Clark going to Martha, Clark then coming back to see Lana. She was clearly in the driver's seat in that ep. Until Lionel tossed her out while the car was still moving. Magnificent Bastard, and all.

I agree that Lana set everything in motion, but I'm either going to blame the writing or I'm going to blame all of the characters involved...meaning Lana, Chloe, Clark and Lex all get equal blame...even Martha as well for encouraging Clark to be honest with Lana. If we are talking about making this a writing issue...then yes, I blame how TPTB wanted to have Lana find out which then led to character assassination.

[SnarkMasterJ]

Of course. It's always and ever a writing issue because writing is how we see the characters portrayed. It wouldn't really make sense for me to dislike Lana or any of the characters just to dislike them. What lies at the core of this episode is that how the characters are being portrayed is insulting, and that's a direct result of how they are written.

[myankskent]

Originally posted by SnarkMasterJ
Of course. It's always and ever a writing issue because writing is how we see the characters portrayed. It wouldn't really make sense for me to dislike Lana or any of the characters just to dislike them. What lies at the core of this episode is that how the characters are being portrayed is insulting, and that's a direct result of how they are written.

Alright good, then we are in agreement which I don't like because we are not supposed to agree with each other. Now say something that you know that I would disagree with so that we can get things back to normal around here.:)

[SnarkMasterJ]

Originally posted by myankskent
Alright good, then we are in agreement which I don't like because we are not supposed to agree with each other. Now say something that you know that I would disagree with so that we can get things back to normal around here.:)

Can't help ya there. :lol:

In as much as it concerns Promise, I'm afraid all of us are going to have to get over the silly nonsense and realize that what we are being shown isn't the story of how Clark Kent becomes Superman. That stretches beyond shipper preferences and character bias...even theories. The lines have been blurred, and "normal" probably won't exist in the same way that it has ever again.

[boingo]

Yes....It was refreshing to see a proactive Lana...I loved it.

She was about to get married and she desperately wanted to resolve all of the maybes before she went through with it (hence her conversation with Nell)...She needed closure in order to be able to completely move on from her unresovled issues and feelings towards Clark....

Many of the episodes leading up to "Promise" touched upon it....Because for someone that claims that "doesn't love [her]" (Hypnotic), he sure is always around "there watching over [her]" and protecting her.....why? (Tresspass) It isn't like she just wants to find out for the sake of finding out for no reason....She senses something is not right: "You don't hide your feelings as well as you think" - Labyrinth....therefore she took it upon herself to discover what it was BEFORE making the big mistake of marrying Lex...

[CLanaF23]

i think lana did what she had to ...you can't blame her for wanting to know after everything clark has put her through...i just wish clark wouldv'e told her himself..... ut he CAN trust her....i mean she married someone she doesn't wanna be with to protect Him!

[Cyn]

I thought Lana was smart in how she found out what part of Clark's secret was.

On the other hand, the secret itself was not Lana's real problem with Clark. Her problem with him was honesty and trust. It really shows her lack of maturity that seeing that the secret was something she could live with instead of terrible or disgusting affected her decision to not marry Lex.

[cloisinmyheart]

WOWWW that totally gave me goosebumps all over
what a touching moment. lana is finally able to full heartedly defend clark because she knows the truth now. what amazing faith she has in him

[margroks]

This crap was unbelievable. Lana was nasty and Clark was no hero.

Worst ep ever. Everyone was OOC, especially Chloe and Martha who have repeatedly told Clark to move the hell on becasue Lana is not the girl for him and sudden;y they are cheerleading for Lana. Lana is shown to be even more a hypocrite to dump Lex in a note rather than having the guts to tell him in person. Just like she did WHitney. She didn't mind all the perks like trips to Paris on Lex's dollar and didn't hesitate to sleep with him and get pregnant but sudden;y she chickens at the last minute? After sucking Clark into her nasty scheme and he should know better than to trust her nasty lying self.

Clark is depicted an having no morals whatsoever, makinglout with another man's fiance, a girl who is pregnant with his child and who has had nothing but nasty, cruel and cutting remarks for Clark for almost two years now. Oh, yeah, and Lana lies to Chloe and locks her in a refrigerated room to spy on Clark when he comes to the rescue, showing the audience that yes, she can be even more nasty than she was when she lied her way onto the Kent farm and into Clark's room to root through his things for clues to his secret.

Instead of being called out on her crap and lies and dispicable behavior, Lana is treated like a martyr for marrying Lex to save Clark when she willingly agreed to it a long time ago and I have no sympathy for her. Clark deserves every bit of misery since the hero should never have done what he did and why he ever cared for this awful girl is inexplicable.

If the producers are smart they'll have Clark in the shower next week saying to himself, "Wow! That was some nightmare!" becasue showing us he dreamed of killing Lex and that he was okay with kissing an almost married woman and plotting with her to run away instead of facing her obligations, willingly agreed to, makes him as bad as her and no hero at all.

I have no sympathy for Lana and Clark is an idiot and deserves no sympathy either. This ep completely sucked from beginning to end.

[ClarkyBoy14]

I loved the way KK said it. It's truly amazing how she's grown as an actress over the past six years.

[voytek]

Originally posted by seacrystal
This whole Lana locking Chloe up thing is just another proof Chloe is only being a big plot device on this show, so that Lana could find out about Clark's superspeeding and heat vision.



I'm of that opinion too, just look how everyone gave him crap and kept digging about his secret in the earlier seasons.

But the fact that he himself had made his own conscious decision to be in a romantic relationship with a girl, to the point of having sex with her, automatically stripped away that right to keep his secret from her. He simply strings her along, and when he decided to break up, he doesn't even have the decency to simply say, "I want to break up because I can't tell the truth" and gave that whole "I don't love you" BS instead.

There's a huge difference between keeping a secret from a friend, and keeping a secret from a lover/spouse. The former gives you the right not to tell anything if you don't want to, but not so with the latter.

ITA. Let's not forget. Clark made the decision to tell Lana and he proposed. She didnt' freak out. She accepted his proposal...despite the fact he is an alien. He is just Clark to her. Lana has a right to know the secret because she asked the man she loves and who loves her to be honest and tell her the truth. Clark has gone to Lana many times seeking the exact same thing and almost every time...she volunteered all she knew. You cannot have a relationship with someone with such a secret. It's hurting Lana and it hurts Clark because he is hiding his true self and he wants Lana to know. It's not that he doesn't want to tell her. He feels he can't. But that scene in the mansion proves he's ready again.

[cloisinmyheart]

she really has. the emotion she projects leaves me in such awe after every scene. how did she change from that innocent carefree lana back in season 1 with the high pitched voice to this sullen and transfixing vixen

[All about Clark]

I'm not a big KK fan, but I will agree that she did her best acting in Promise.

[freefall]

I also would just like to point out Lana's own deceptive actions doesn't give Clark the justification to stoop down to the same level. This is very obvious throughout S5, whenever Lana confronts him, Clark sidestepped the question and brought up Lana's research about the spaceship or her going to Lex etc instead.

Clark and Lana are their own poison. There's no one else to blame but their own selves, for all of this horrible, horrible mess. I don't think the majority of the audience views Lana as the martyr, the victim or whatever, anyway. Likewise with Clark himself, I absolutely have no sympathy left at all for his character, almost nothing left for me to root for him. He's not even worthy being called a man yet, let alone Superman. That's totally out of the equation for the time being.

The only way left to go for them now is redemption, but even that I still haven't got the faintest vibe of it.

[voytek]

Originally posted by boingo
Yes....It was refreshing to see a proactive Lana...I loved it.

She was about to get married and she desperately wanted to resolve all of the maybes before she went through with it (hence her conversation with Nell)...She needed closure in order to be able to completely move on from her unresovled issues and feelings towards Clark....

Many of the episodes leading up to "Promise" touched upon it....Because for someone that claims that "doesn't love [her]" (Hypnotic), he sure is always around "there watching over [her]" and protecting her.....why? (Tresspass) It isn't like she just wants to find out for the sake of finding out for no reason....She senses something is not right: "You don't hide your feelings as well as you think" - Labyrinth....therefore she took it upon herself to discover what it was BEFORE making the big mistake of marrying Lex...

You are my new hero! Clark has jerked Lana's chain so much, I'm surprised she doesn't have whiplash. He is the one that ended it with her and he did it in the most painful way, but he will NOT stay away from her because he cannot. That's not fair to Lana. How can she move on when Clark won't let her? The heart wants what it wants. The look on Clark's face when she said she would meet him in the barn was pure happiness. He told his parents he wants Lana to know the real him and he even went against Jonathan's opinion on telling Lana. Clark's response? "Dad, I love her."

CLARK: I cannot let you go through with this. Not until you know everything.

LANA: Clark, it's okay. You don't have to explain anything.

CLARK: I owe it to you.

LANA: You don't owe me anything.

[smallville_fetish]

Did anyone notice how Lana had extremely nice handwriting... her sorry note to Lex looked more like the Wedding invitation itself.

[Bonita_LovesSuperman]

Clark had to let lana go because he was protecting her... Well lana had to marry Lex Because off the baby... It was stupid going with Lex but maybe with anger. Like Chloe Betraying Clark same thing.. And now chloe is a better character. if we let Lana do her thing she will become a good chracter:):D

[Clark Jr. the great]

Originally posted by voytek
You are my new hero! Clark has jerked Lana's chain so much, I'm surprised she doesn't have whiplash. He is the one that ended it with her and he did it in the most painful way, but he will NOT stay away from her because he cannot. That's not fair to Lana. How can she move on when Clark won't let her? The heart wants what it wants. The look on Clark's face when she said she would meet him in the barn was pure happiness. He told his parents he wants Lana to know the real him and he even went against Jonathan's opinion on telling Lana. Clark's response? "Dad, I love her."

CLARK: I cannot let you go through with this. Not until you know everything.

LANA: Clark, it's okay. You don't have to explain anything.

CLARK: I owe it to you.

LANA: You don't owe me anything.

Lana is not forcing anything. See promise(all of it) you will see that lana kisses him from her own free will. You are misquoting this section. Lana only said that because she knew clarks secret and knew why he did that and felt that its ok if clark does not tell her everything. She did NOT say that because she wanted to move on. LANA LANG LOVES CLARK KENT(SLOBDA) Lana choose to go back to clark but was stopped by lional. You cant force someone to love you. Thats logical. Lana loves clark.

[Peat Moss]

Then why does she decide not to marry Lex only after seeing Clark's powers? The secret was not keeping them apart. His powers were. The secret, technically, was still there since he had not told her. It looked like she would not marry Clark because he was keeping things from her. But he still is now, but since he has powers, she can marry him. That doesn't sound like love, when you are only willing to marry someone if they have superpowers.

[richard9820]

Originally posted by CLanaF23
i think lana did what she had to ...you can't blame her for wanting to know after everything clark has put her through...i just wish clark wouldv'e told her himself..... ut he CAN trust her....i mean she married someone she doesn't wanna be with to protect Him! in some comics she knows, but Clark doesn't know she knows

[voytek]

Originally posted by Clark Jr. the great
Lana is not forcing anything. See promise(all of it) you will see that lana kisses him from her own free will. You are misquoting this section. Lana only said that because she knew clarks secret and knew why he did that and felt that its ok if clark does not tell her everything. She did NOT say that because she wanted to move on. LANA LANG LOVES CLARK KENT(SLOBDA) Lana choose to go back to clark but was stopped by lional. You cant force someone to love you. Thats logical. Lana loves clark.

I'm not misquoting anything. I have seen promise three times. I put that up there to emphasize that Clark himself feels he owes Lana the truth. Go back and read my posts on this thread. I am well aware that Clark and Lana are still in love with each other and she does love Lex but it doesn't come close to what she feels for Clark.

Originally posted by Peat Moss
Then why does she decide not to marry Lex only after seeing Clark's powers? The secret was not keeping them apart. His powers were. The secret, technically, was still there since he had not told her. It looked like she would not marry Clark because he was keeping things from her. But he still is now, but since he has powers, she can marry him. That doesn't sound like love, when you are only willing to marry someone if they have superpowers.

I totally disagree. It's not the secret or his powers that were keeping them apart, nor is it the reason Lana decided to be with him and not marry Lex. She has known for years that Clark is hiding a big secret and has been on the verge of telling her forever. You cannot make the overtures of love that Clark has made over the years, but lie to your girlfriend. Clark knew that and it bothered him. He felt that he was hiding his true self and he wanted Lana to know. Just like I said before, there is a huge difference in wanting to tell her and not being able to. Clark believes the secret got her killed, but even Chloe said with the knowledge of what happened, they can not prevent it. Clark knows how obsessed Lex is with his secret and it got Lana killed, but that doesn't mean it will happen again.

Clark is the worst liar I have ever seen. He doesn't make eye contact and he fumbles his words. Clark and Lana lost their virginity to one another and clearly continued to have sex, but then he got his powers back and he was afraid to make love to her again. Again I must quote Chloe who told Clark that just like he can shake her hand and not crush it, he can still have sex with his girlfriend.:rotfl:

This is from the final scene in "Hidden" after Clark has gotten his powers back and learned that someone he loves will have to pay the price because he was brought back from the dead.

Clark: I am back to the lies.

Chloe: I like being the only one who knew about you...it made it all kinda special. But if you honestly believe you can be with Lana and not tell her--you are seriously kidding yourself.

Clark: I don't have a choice. I can't expect her to react like you did.

Chloe: But don't you think you owe her the choice.

Clark: I can't take that risk. I have risked too much already. And now someone else is going to have to pay for it. I never should have given up my powers.

You see he was afraid that Lana would freak out when she learned the secret and she didn't. The audience has seen twice now Lana still loves Clark after she learns he is different.

[Bonita_LovesSuperman]

^^^She always loved Clark, but she wanted to be with Lex and try and hide,(why Lex)... and she married Lex because of the baby.... And lana didnt freak out about clark, Omg everyone thought she wouldve freaked out and have a big fuss about it... We are going to see Clana again and see a Better Lana:)

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by pissedoff
Did anyone notice what looked like a glitch when Clark took off after his confrontation with Chloe. Instead of the usual blur we see when he speeds off all we got was him disapperaring. It looked like they forgot to add the blur after the cut.

That's what it looks like to the human eye. We always see him blur away for effect, but most likely everyone just sees him disappear.

[boingo]

Originally posted by Peat Moss
Then why does she decide not to marry Lex only after seeing Clark's powers? The secret was not keeping them apart. His powers were. The secret, technically, was still there since he had not told her. It looked like she would not marry Clark because he was keeping things from her. But he still is now, but since he has powers, she can marry him. That doesn't sound like love, when you are only willing to marry someone if they have superpowers.

I don't think it was just in seeing Clark's powers that did it but rather in realizing that THERE WAS indeed a reason (a very powerful one at that) to the why Clark has been acting the way he has all of these years towards her and their relationship....not only through seeing Clark use his powers but also in what he told Chloe....of having to "give up" Lana and it being one of the hardest things to do....

[Peat Moss]

But she's said from the beginning that people with secrets, any secrets, especially powers, shouldn't keep them secret from the ones they love. She even said something to the effect regarding the Magnet boy..
"He may have been a psycho, but at least he was honest with me about his powers".
The secret hasn't changed--since Clark still hasn't told her. And why does seeing his actual powers in action make her willing to accept that he lied to her? Magnet powers do not merit lies, but heat vision, strength, and speed do?

[98chase]

Originally posted by Peat Moss
But she's said from the beginning that people with secrets, any secrets, especially powers, shouldn't keep them secret from the ones they love. She even said something to the effect regarding the Magnet boy..
"He may have been a psycho, but at least he was honest with me about his powers".
The secret hasn't changed--since Clark still hasn't told her. And why does seeing his actual powers in action make her willing to accept that he lied to her? Magnet powers do not merit lies, but heat vision, strength, and speed do?
By the tone in Clark's voice and the look on his face, Lana could tell that in his mind, he was protecting her. That he honestly lied to her to protect her, not just because he didn't want her to know.

[Ania]

Originally posted by voytek
CLARK: I cannot let you go through with this. Not until you know everything.

LANA: Clark, it's okay. You don't have to explain anything.

CLARK: I owe it to you.

LANA: You don't owe me anything. That's Lana's amazing understanding and forgiveness... you don't owe me anything (I know it already, dumbass). So she didn't care about Clark not being honest (because he doesn't owe her anything), but because she didn't know! That's why she didn't think twice before running through Clark's stuff, risking his respect and friendship, only to get to know!

[Sweetie]

What did she find out???Yes,he has powers than what?She probably thinks that is a meteor freak.No big deal after 6 seasons :rolleyes:

[voytek]

Originally posted by Sweetie
What did she find out???Yes,he has powers than what?She probably thinks that is a meteor freak.No big deal after 6 seasons :rolleyes:


Well even if he were a meteor freak that would mean he wasn't "normal" and that would still be a huge secret he kept all these years. But bottom line is...she doe not care. She still wants to be with him--powers, no powers or a monkey! She loves him. In the 100th episode he told her he was an alien and she replied "But you're just like everyone else." She has known him since they were seven years old and he's her lobster. That might change in the future but for now they are the loves of each others' lives.

[Ania]

Originally posted by voytek
But bottom line is...she doe not care.If she doesn't care, why did she hated Clark for keeping secrets and decided to run with Clark only AFTER she saw him using heat vision?

[Tacosupes]

damn my DVR recorded just the audio on this, as my video settings reverted tothe wrong ones. Impissed. I missed the episode of the year. Its allmy cable companies fault. Damnit they screwed up my repair date. Now Iv e missed this AND combat. Iv havent missed 2 episodes of smallville in a row since 2002.