Peter and Nathan's Mother ( big spoiler)

[Hockeyking]

What position of power is Mrs. Petrelli in that the Haitian works for her. When she greets Claire at the door and addresses her as her grand daughter, obviously she's known for a long time. Could she have been the one that Claude was hiding.

[Portdechar]

you must be close, if not, she is still very intriguing...

[last man of krypton]

I'm not too surprised she knows about Claire; she strikes me as the type of mother that would keep an close eye on anything that could potentially disrupt her son's life.

[Jun]

First impression was I figured she was the one that Claude was hiding.

I'd assume she also has some sort of powers considering both her children do, as well as Nathan and Peters father being connected with Linderman.

[Randy G.]

That was a nice surprise. She's cool in that "rich, all-controlling mother" kind of way.

[phantom222]

i like how its someone who at first didnt play a big role

[STFanatic]

WOW!
Now I wonder even more about Nathan's boys.

[angeloo]

i think linderman is there dad and its like mom vs dad... and that was crazy i was so suprised when his mom knew

[Lexgirl33]

^ Never thought of that

[Dpyro]

wait how did you know that he worked for her before the show even started do you have an abillity to tell the future if you do im telling sylar lol

[STFanatic]

The episode was shown in the UK on Sunday, we had to wait till tonight to see it.

[Red_K_Advocate]

Her and Nathan are a lot alike, they're cold and ruthless when they need to be but we saw a warmer side to her.

I'm glad they're making all of the characters really dynamic.

[Enialedam]

That was gut-wrenching for me! Eek! How exciting!

Now what's going to happen? :-S

[deepblue]

I do hope they put some effort into reconciling the mother's behind-the-scenes masterminding with her arrest for shoplifting socks in episode 1.

[FUZZYWOOKIEE]

That whole scene was definitely my OMFG, did that just happen? moment of the night

[Randy G.]

Originally posted by deepblue
I do hope they put some effort into reconciling the mother's behind-the-scenes masterminding with her arrest for shoplifting socks in episode 1.

LMFAO! :lol: That's right! I almost forgot.
Grandma went from shoplifting socks, to all-controlling mastermind in one season! :eek:
I wonder what kind of self-help books SHE'S reading?!
(*and please order ME a set of them if you can!) :\

[STFanatic]

:lol:
Hey, she is the matriarch of a powerful family, she can't be bothered by actually paying for something so trivial as a pair of socks. Besides, they were really really cool socks :p

So, we have several powerful families now, Hiro's dad, Linderman, Deveroux (Simone's papa), Petrelli and the Suresh family seemed to be rather important as well.
All these are linked by conicidence?
Makes ya go "Hmmmm".

[deepblue]

Well all of those people, the older generation (Claude included), would have been around during the 1962 conjunction of planets that was mentioned over at CBR's weekly interview with the show writers.

The Summers conjecture:
"During the new moon and solar eclipse of February 4-5, 1962, an extremely rare grand conjunction of the classical planets occurred (it included all five of the naked-eye planets plus the Sun and Moon), all of them within 16° of one another on the ecliptic. At the precise moment of the new moon/solar eclipse, five celestial bodies (the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Jupiter) were clustered within 3° of each other, with the Earth in close conjunction with them. Taken in totality though, this grand conjunction included the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn, with the Earth also in alignment with the Sun and Moon at the exact moment of the new moon/solar eclipse (eight celestial bodies in total)."
- From ComicBookResources: http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9879

After it's mentioned, the writers get pretty excited. Maybe that was a big trigger for a new wave of evolution of powers.

But Grandma's seemingly inconsistent shoplifting/masterminding behaviour bothers me. Maybe they can explain it if it turns out that Claude slipped the socks in her bag to get her into trouble for some reason, maybe to derail Nathan's campaign (working against Linderman?) Or just out of spite, because there's history there?

If they don't address it, it's not the end of the world, I guess. But wouldn't it be nice?

[Sweetie]

Well,I think Linderman & her had an affair in the past & they had Nathan.Mrs.Petrelli welcomed her grand-daughter for an unique motive...Linderman must have contact her to play the sweet grand-ma to convaince Claire to work for him.I don't think Claire will want do it,she will be in trouble.

[Sidious]

Originally posted by STFanatic
The episode was shown in the UK on Sunday, we had to wait till tonight to see it.
Do you mean Canada? Over here in the UK they're only on episode 3 or 4.

[STFanatic]

My mistake, I meant Canada on "Global".

[emjay]

Claire knows that Mrs. Petrelli is her grandmother. But how does she know that it's Nathan who is her dad?
Perhaps she thinks that Peter is her dad?
Actually, scratch that, she would have been able to tell if it was Peter or not when she listened in to Nathan and Meredith a few eps ago...

The Idea of Linderman being the Petrelli's father is interesting. But surely Nathan would have recognised his father's face (he knew about the depressive suicidal thing).

[STFanatic]

She heard her birth mother talk about and to Nathan did she not?
I would need to review that episode.

(After review)
Her mother did call him "Nathan" while Claire was listening at the window.
So at least she knows it wasn't Peter.

[chlo-el]

At first I thought that Lendermen might be there father before I saw the scene w/ Nathan and Lendermen. I always knew something was fishy with the "suicide" of his father and then they tried to make peter tell everyone he had depression too. THe mom might be cover up that their dad had powers also and maybe died w/ his ties w/ Lendermen.

[jessestuber]

what if linderman is good.............. like what if peter and nathans dad worked for the company, and wanted to turn in his kids, so he was killed, linderman made it look like a suicide, nathan and peters mom is with linderman against the company, thats why the haitian went to their mom.you can tell that the mom and the haitin have met before.

[angeloo]

yeah the haitian was talking to her on the phone when him and claire stopped to make a phone call

im just wondering how this effects everything... the haitian said he worked for someone more powerful, and linderman seems to be powerful also and knows a lot, while we know a lot more about the company then either of these 2 people... what i think is that the company tries to capture the more powerful heroes mayb that being peters dad? or mom? but fail and they work together to try and mess up the company?? lol

[bumblebee]

wow, I thought that was cool. I've been going spoiler-free for this show so Mrs. Petrelli being involved came as a cool surprise, although I guess it makes sense for all these families to be connected. In case anyone wants to know what they were saying in french: When Claire comes in, Mrs Petrelli says "at least she'll be safe now." Then towards the Hatian she continues "no thanks to you." Then the Hatian replies "listen, I did everything that I could."

[STFanatic]

Awesome Bumble, that is great to know. Thanks

[i love u tom]

ms petrelli reminds me so much of genevieve teague and nathan's jason. haha. im thinking she has to have some power too b/c then how did the boys get them? from the dad? there was no mention of his powers. there is no way that linderman can be their dad. its just too wierd, and that would then TOTALLY confuse me, cuz all of this linderman and ms petrelli stuff already confuses me :\

[Ginx]

Originally posted by Hockeyking
What position of power is Mrs. Petrelli in that the Haitian works for her. When she greets Claire at the door and addresses her as her grand daughter, obviously she's known for a long time. Could she have been the one that Claude was hiding.

I don't think that he works for her - just that he knows of her and knew that Claire would come there. Mrs. Petrelli probably knew about Claire from the start and she probably knows about her sons more than they know - but I'm not so sure that she's at the top of the food chain - more just like a woman who knows what the hell's going on.

[angeloo]

she has to have a major part because the haitian said to HRG i dont work for you any more i work for some1 with more power or something like that... and also the haitian was talking to her on the phone when they stopped, when he was talking french

[chlo-el]

Originally posted by Red_K_Advocate
Her and Nathan are a lot alike, they're cold and ruthless when they need to be but we saw a warmer side to her.

I'm glad they're making all of the characters really dynamic.

Agreed I love how all of these charcters are really dynamic. Yeah Nathan his mother are really simular I'm guessing maybe she was the one that maybe have been pulling Nathan's strings a little. She may have known about Claire before him. But it is all very intersting.

[boutny3421]

I wonder if she did know claude. When you think about it. She hasn't been as concerned about Peter as she should/would have been. In earlier episodes she was the one who was the most concerned for Peter. She was always there waiting for Nathan to come fix it. But she was always there. But in this episode she didn't seem to care at all. Like she knew he was ok and was letting him have his space to deal. She does not seem to be the type to just chill and let her sons be out in the world and not know what they are doing. but i guess we have to wait til the end of april to find out

[Zeth Duuron]

I was definitely thinking about Linderman being the Petrelli boys' dad and that the man they thought was their father really wasn't, but I'm kind of confused now. Generally you wouldn't think the writers would have someone who has so much power be morally ambiguous...I mean, he sent Jessica to kill Nathan. I don't see how he could have foreseen that that wouldn't work.

Mom's is mad cool tho!!!!!!

And about who Claude is hiding, I came to the opinion that Claude was hiding Peter. I mean, Peter's power is greater than ANYBODY elses. He wouldn't have been hiding Claire, else she would have been snatched up RIGHT THEN out of HRG's arms. She was still a baby or a toddler at that point, I think.

[last man of krypton]

Does anyone know what she and the Haitian were talking about at the end? I could only pick out the word "ecoutez", so I presume he was saying something along the lines of "she didn't listen to me".

[Hockeyking]

Yesterday I caught a glance at a commercial on NTV, it's a Canadian channel, that Heroes would be returning in two weeks. That would mean March 26. Could it be up here in Canada we'll get the new episodes a full month ahead of the US. I hope so.

[Randy G.]

Originally posted by last man of krypton
Does anyone know what she and the Haitian were talking about at the end? I could only pick out the word "ecoutez", so I presume he was saying something along the lines of "she didn't listen to me".

Scroll up 10 posts. ;) (*BumbleBee translated their conversation for us.)

[last man of krypton]

Ah, thanks. :D
I did a cursory look at the posts, clearly didn't look hard enough...