Starting Hypothesis on Sylars Power

[seriousjackson]

I have a potential hypothesis about how Sylar abosorbs other peoples abilities.
It could be very well the same as Peter but he doesn't know how to control it; Peter first thought he could only use his power around other people
with abilities. The late Dr. Sharesh shared a theory to Sylar about how the soul , if exists , would exist in the brain and also said he was going to take him to an MRI which shows how to map the brain.
Some how I think that is detrimental to the storyline on how Sylar has been abosorbing powers and keeping them.
Anyways back to my theory about him being like Peter, In Fallout (Chapter 11) Eden has a very distinct transposed voice as she uses her power in front of Sylar,
just before she kills herself (destroying her brain). In Chapter 14 Sylar throws claire's mom against that cabinet he says "hi" in the same low freq. voice, which makes me wonder if he has Edens power (by absorption like Peter) and doesn't know it.
Since Sylar met Eden while being at Dr.Sharesh's house before Peter's confrontration with him, it could be also plausible that Peter has it as well which would explain why he had that same tone of voice when he used telekensis against claude. (which i did not notice but got from reading the forums)
Also, (just to speculate on what has already happened, this is not intended to be a spoiler as the producers probably wanted viewers to pick up on this), with Simone dead and Ando possibly out of the picture, Peter's vision of the future seems to be becoming less and less likely to happen as some nearly irreversible changes seem to be occuring.

I think that there is enough clues on this website from the show so far to pull together a strong standing theory on Sylar before or if they reveal how he really does what he does. This is just my input into that theory.

[SuckMyJagon]

actually he didnt have the voice when he womped on claude it was when he was smackin around isaac and sylars power is not at all like peters... he has intuative apptitude and uses it to understand the differences in the brain( which is where the powers theoretically come from.. like when claire had the tree branch stuck in her brain and once it was removed se healed rite up) and he rearranges his to match thiers. the only similarity is they both can achieve multiple superpowers

[Drolfin]

proof that sylar does not have the same powers as peter: he would have gotten super hearing as soon as he got near Dale.

Also, Sylar and Peter are supposed to be the antithesis of each other, whereas Peter gains his powers from an emotional connection and Sylar gains his through logic and analysis.

[seriousjackson]

thanks, im beggining to understand a bunch of things now, it was kind of confusing just watching the show, but this forums got some sharp ppl, thanks again

[christian_kryptonian]

That power could not be an Eden absorbed power because Peter used the same voice when he got into it with Isaac and tat was after he ran into Sylar, and when he met Sylar, it was before Sylar met Eden.

[Supermat]

I came here to see if anyone else thought what I thought ... I had an apiphany, like that book. I agree with the first post. I think he's "one of those" that Claude was talking about.

Sylar's just so messed up in the head that he isn't an empathic enough person to take on their abilities without eating their brains or whatever he does that makes him think that he has a connection with them.

How else could he get their powers? Does he quickly do brain surgery on himself (grafting their brain parts onto his) and that's why he wants Claire's power? That is sarcasm, but I can't be asking what's realistic in a comic-book style universe. I just think that would be funny & sad if he didn't have to kill anyone to get their power.

If I'm wrong, I'll make a $10 donation to KryptonSite.

P.S. I think both Peter and Sylar have Eden's voice (they both met her). Either that or they're reptiles form the "V" planet. (for those of you who are old enough to remember that miniseries/show). For you youngsters, that's also the same sound effect on The Emperor, when he names Vader. Although with the awesome Ian McDiarmid's voice, he didn't need much of that harmonizer effect to be creepy.

Also, Sylar could have gotten the know-how-to-fix-it power from his father

[jessestuber]

i posted this theory on a new thread because i somehow skipped this one when reading through, sorry to the poster. is there a way to delete the thread i created?

[SuckMyJagon]

Originally posted by Supermat
I came here to see if anyone else thought what I thought ... I had an apiphany, like that book. I agree with the first post. I think he's "one of those" that Claude was talking about.

Sylar's just so messed up in the head that he isn't an empathic enough person to take on their abilities without eating their brains or whatever he does that makes him think that he has a connection with them.

How else could he get their powers? Does he quickly do brain surgery on himself (grafting their brain parts onto his) and that's why he wants Claire's power? That is sarcasm, but I can't be asking what's realistic in a comic-book style universe. I just think that would be funny & sad if he didn't have to kill anyone to get their power.

If I'm wrong, I'll make a $10 donation to KryptonSite.

P.S. I think both Peter and Sylar have Eden's voice (they both met her). Either that or they're reptiles form the "V" planet. (for those of you who are old enough to remember that miniseries/show). For you youngsters, that's also the same sound effect on The Emperor, when he names Vader. Although with the awesome Ian McDiarmid's voice, he didn't need much of that harmonizer effect to be creepy.

Also, Sylar could have gotten the know-how-to-fix-it power from his father

i have a theory that the people whos powers peter mimics have to be alive in order for him to use them.. kinda like linking up with them empathically which would be hard for him to use edens power since she capped herself

[Supermat]

I told you so over a year and a half ago on post number six of this thread!
I knew he was just like Peter. It's right there. Hah!

I guess it's lame to quote yourself, but here is the proof that I saw the future baby!


Sylar's just so messed up in the head that he isn't an empathic enough person to take on their abilities without eating their brains or whatever he does that makes him think that he has a connection with them.


Booyah! (okay I need to get a life)

[Seyee]

1)I always had a feeling Sylar's power was just too good and was hoping something like an empathic power like Peters. I think Sylar's empathic power is different than Peter's. Peter's doesn't need to understand the person or anything he can get the power on sight (First time he met Hiro, Invisibleman, Matt) he doesn't have to know anything about them. On the other hand we KNOW Sylar has the power to "understand how things work", after getting to know them very well and by using his power to understand things work he can use the EMPATHY side of his main power of (Intuitive aptitude ) to understand how part of the power works in another person. Unfortunately it's not as strong and quick as killing someone off the show lol. It's hard to believe that Sylar can just absorb people's ability without knowing them that's not really empathy like his father described.

2) Maybe when his father meant that he became an Empath when he saved Peter he got the Empathy power like Peters, so by saving someone, helping them cope with their issues he gets their power? He saved Peter and knows so much about Peter he doesn't need to chop off his head to really take his power. He also saved Elle in another way, coping her and her past and hence he got her power as well.

3) Eh this one is iffy but someone stated that maybe Arthur, Sylar, Peter are all just some form of Empaths but evolved in differently. But I doubt it.

Ah just a thought about Sylar this season, the writers did an EXCELLENT job on his story I like his story more than Peter now lol. Oh man was I wrong about the eclipse lol the preview after the show says it's going to do the opposite of what it suppose to do. Hrmm.... I hope next episode won't be boring since no powers :/.. ATK Arthur!!! keeel him lol I think Arhtur has some good inside him still and maybe it doesn't have to end with someone dying. He did release Angela afterall, taught Sylar what he's really capable of (Angela probably knew this too since she told him that he doesn't know half of what he's capable of).

I think I'm going to stick with #2 on this one, sound the most reasonable one because it's just weird having everyone having the same power; maybe his power is still understand how things work but he can do it through emotions as well after getting to "understand them/ and their feelings".

EDIT* LOL I just found this right after my post on http://heroeswiki.com/Intuitive_aptitude. It's usually accurate since it came from heroeswiki itself.
It says quote, "Angela explained to Sylar that his ability creates a hunger that can be controlled with structure. On the other hand, Arthur explained to Sylar that if he gained control of his emotions and helped someone else to deal with traumatizing personal emotions, he could gain a target's powers without physical study of the brain. (It's Coming). Both techniques have proven useful in allowing Sylar to control the hunger and gain powers without having to kill his victims to study their brains. One of his future selves also managed to do so. " SOO in the end it's probably #1 or #2 of what I said... not crystal clear but iono sounds more reasonable than they are all Peters i think.

[nemrod]

peter arthur and sylar have the same power but in peter it is the strongest and sylar the weakest....
peter naturally absorbs powers just by proximity...
arthur needs to touch to absorb...
sylar needed to touch the source of the power in the brain so the need to open the head...
i think that arthur is an empath but he has absorbed from others the power to rewire the brain and understand the mechanics of the powers he steals, so he takes by empathy understands useing intuition and blocks the source (does not remove) like that he put angela in a coma like state, removes memories, turned off peters powers and made hiro a ten year old child...

[christian_kryptonian]

I came here to see if anyone else thought what I thought ... I had an apiphany, like that book. I agree with the first post. I think he's "one of those" that Claude was talking about.

Sylar's just so messed up in the head that he isn't an empathic enough person to take on their abilities without eating their brains or whatever he does that makes him think that he has a connection with them.

How else could he get their powers? Does he quickly do brain surgery on himself (grafting their brain parts onto his) and that's why he wants Claire's power? That is sarcasm, but I can't be asking what's realistic in a comic-book style universe. I just think that would be funny & sad if he didn't have to kill anyone to get their power.

If I'm wrong, I'll make a $10 donation to KryptonSite.

P.S. I think both Peter and Sylar have Eden's voice (they both met her). Either that or they're reptiles form the "V" planet. (for those of you who are old enough to remember that miniseries/show). For you youngsters, that's also the same sound effect on The Emperor, when he names Vader. Although with the awesome Ian McDiarmid's voice, he didn't need much of that harmonizer effect to be creepy.

Also, Sylar could have gotten the know-how-to-fix-it power from his father

SO last night's episode had Sylar take someone's ability WITHOUT KILLING them.
I believe you owe Kryptonsite $10. Just sayin...

[homebuyer718]

peter arthur and sylar have the same power but in peter it is the strongest and sylar the weakest....
peter naturally absorbs powers just by proximity...
arthur needs to touch to absorb...
sylar needed to touch the source of the power in the brain so the need to open the head...
i think that arthur is an empath but he has absorbed from others the power to rewire the brain and understand the mechanics of the powers he steals, so he takes by empathy understands useing intuition and blocks the source (does not remove) like that he put angela in a coma like state, removes memories, turned off peters powers and made hiro a ten year old child...


I believe you have the right idea. By looking at Gabrielle and Peter. I can assume that Gabrielle is older. He derived his absorbing ability from his father. He can now take power from someone by understanding them (empathic). But by what we have seen with Elle, Gabrielle has to be with in a few feet from his target before he can understand and thus acquire their ability. With Arthur who is the 1st generation with the absorbing ability, he has to physically touch you to take your power, and leaving you with "nothing". As you can see, Gabriells power is a simple evolution of Arthurs. Gabrielle may have killed his victims but that was prior to understanding how to use his original power fully. Now with Peter, he is the next evolution of Gabriells power. Peter can be across the room and absorb your power. An example of this was when Sylar 1st met up with Peter at Claires highschool. Peter told Claire to run because way cross the hall was Sylar. Sylar threw locker doors at Peter using telekinesis, and Peter absorbed it. As well as Claires when he 1st met her. He doesnt even have to know you have a power and he will take it, like when he copied Claires or Teds. I also do not believe that Arthur removes all traces of the powers from his victims like he says he does. He might think he does, but I doubt there have been so many eclipses so close together in time. Arthur should know what the eclipse does, which is to deactivate powers and then give or reactivate powers. Once the eclipse starts they will all lose their powers and they will have to fight for their lives until it passes. Once it has passed and the dust settles, those left standing will have their powers restored but will still be hunted by Arthur until he is finished off or incompasitated.

[nemrod]

and claude knew about these powers when he said that peter was another empath, also how similair is the power of the hiatian to the power of arthur except that the haitian does not gain the power of others and his nulifiying powers are limited in time....

[Supermat]

SO last night's episode had Sylar take someone's ability WITHOUT KILLING them.
I believe you owe Kryptonsite $10. Just sayin...

I was dead right, I said I'd kick down if I was wrong. I said he's like Peter, just not empathic enough to know it.

[Seyee]

Your guys idea is reasonable as well but coming from heroeswiki I don't think they are all empaths of the same power. I think Sylar has to help people cope or solve their issue at least that is what the website said and it's usually right I think. It would make sense though, that's how Sylar got Elle's power; by helping her(fixing her) without killing her using empathy or the empathy side of his power he can understand what's her problem and then fix it and by doing that he can fix her without killing the person. In the end he gains her power because he understood what she's been going through. This way he can actually get powers without killing; requires more work actually but it's not like Peter's in anyway way... we know Peter can take powers without knowing them, just has to be close and nearby. AS FOR Arthur I've been thinking about what powers he have I think he knows a lot of powers just through experience and how he knows so much about Sylar ability is because he has it already; (He took Peter's power which has like everyone's power), what really gave it away that he has ALL of Peter's power without even knowing all of Peter's powers were is when Arthur paint the future of the eclipse. Arthur has Sylar's power which is why he didn't really need to take ANY more powers.

[christian_kryptonian]

If Peter can just take ANYONE'S power, why did he have to beat it out of Sylar. Maybe this was explained and I'm dumb. Please fill me in.

[simdog]

he only had to make sylar tell him how it works he didnt actually need to ask to take it. also sylars empathic ability seems the same as peters usually he knows instantly how to use his gained ability with elle he didnt im guessing that sylar has been getting abilities just like peter but the only ones he knows about are the ones he thinks hes taken with his labotomies. also just throwing a wild one out here but im thinking twins peter and sylar

[Seyee]

I'll tell you why; same reason why Dr. Hank the guy who was treating Sylar as a lab rat during season 1 when they captured him with Eden and Hatian help.. he said the only ability he could find trace of was Telekinesis. Sylar can turn his power on and off and most of the time Sylar only used TK on Peter so that is why Peter only absorbed that ability. Realize how confident he was when Sylar said "As if you can" when Peter said I'll just take (absorb) it from you then. Sylar is one of the very few people who can hide/ hard to find his powers because of his power to know how things work he has practically full control of his body because he knows how the human body works. ONLY then Peter was able to absorb Sylar ability when he probably turned his power back on to show him how his power works cuz he knew the world was going to end at the rate it's at, but I think we were suppose to assume once Gabriel turned his power in the future, Peter absorbed it and by that Gabriel was just explaining to him what's he's doing in the process.

[JW_102792]

Well, the writers said Peter absorbed all of Sylar's abilities the first time he met him, way back in Season 1. And I doubt he can turn his power on/off, it's more likely they only found TK because it was his first power, and his most used power, so it was implanted into his DNA more (or something that makes more sense)

Peter always had Sylar's IA, he just didn't know how to use it, that's what he was going to take from Sylar, hence the mind reading after he said "I'll just take it from you", Sylar somehow found a way to block it. It's the same feedback Matt/Peter and Matt/Maury got when reading each others mind, so maybe Sylar got Telepathy sometime between now and that future.

[Seyee]

^ I don't know man that's really hard to believe, a lot of the things the writers say aren't all true; I think that's because they split up the work so they kind of made loopholes in their work. One thing we should know though is that the writers wouldn't want us to make new assumptions/ ideas of Sylar like him being a telepathy... TRUE they said Peter absorbed all of Sylar abilities.. but they also said Sylar lost all his abilities yet he used 2 previous power he stole from season 1 in the future of season 3, they also said Peter could only use one power at a time but we know that's really not true since there is more than 1 scene where he used 2-3 powers at once (one example is invisible + tk future episode season 1). Not saying you shouldn't trust their words all the time but I'm sure Sylar could turn it off and on he has the power to understand how things work so I'm sure he "understands" how to turn it off. Plus he used freezing ability a lot of times even though he used TK more but the scientist should of figured freezing as well but didn't which explains why Peter couldn't take Sylar power by empathy. He doesn't need to get any understanding about it at all; he didn't know Claude was invisible until he mentioned it but before then they were both invisible or how about DL(they never even talked). Not knowing what power it is(Claude + DL examples), what power it came from(DL example) or even understanding how to use it(Claude + DL as well) peter demonstrated that he could mimic people power with those standards EXCEPT for Sylar for the reason above sounds most reasonable.