View Full Version : Did TPTB forget about Chloe's former "truth" ability?/Chloe's been affected by Rock
I don't remember which episode (or even what season) it was, but Chloe had the ability to get people to tell her the truth after being sprayed with some meteor rock-based substance at a Luthercorp plant. It was temporary, but for a time Chloe was already technically a "meteor freak." Does that episode have anything to do with her being selected by Luthercorp, or was there already an underlying ability from before?
It just surprises me that neither Clark nor Chloe mentioned this towards the end of the episode while Chloe was upset by her computer.
jimmyolsenblues
02-15-2007, 09:23 PM
Great Catch, cause I forgot it too!.
Chlarkerlover
02-15-2007, 09:25 PM
but that wasn't a metoer freak power. that was brought on by an experiment from luthorcorp, which made her make everyone tell her the truth, but remember that it made her sick, and clark gave her an antidote. so she never had that power, it was just an affect of the spray that she got caught in in the epicode.
CLSmith
02-15-2007, 09:27 PM
Hmm, I think that was seen as a temporary effect caused by Kryptonite.
Ie Lois in Crimson, Clark on Red K etc.
-cs™
Crispin Glover
02-15-2007, 09:27 PM
Doox, you may be on to something. I completly forgot.
Chlarkerlover, still it was made from green meteor rocks. I think.
drwood
02-15-2007, 09:28 PM
The truth serum (Levitas) wasn't from green meteor rocks...otherwise, Clark would have gotten weak when she tried to ask him questions.
Originally posted by drwood
The truth serum (Levitas) wasn't from green meteor rocks...otherwise, Clark would have gotten weak when she tried to ask him questions.
Here's the official teaser from the episode (season 3 #18, I think):
When Chloe (Allison Mack) accidentally inhales a mysterious krypto-gas, she discovers it acts as a truth serum to anyone who comes in contact with her and decides to take advantage of her new power by going to the Kents (John Schneider, Annette O'Toole) to find out Clark's (Tom Welling) secret. However, her new power comes with fatal consequences and Clark must find an antidote before she discovers the truth about him or worse, dies.
So, yes - this was kryptonite-based. And just because someone has a meteor power doesn't mean Clark should be weak around them.
This is all true, but it still wasn't some meteor-infected power. It was merely a "drug" of sorts. And no matter what, it's out of her system, and has been out for 3 years. I don't think that has ANYTHING to do with the current situation.
Do you really think Tobias' "power" can differentiate between direct meteor contact and contact with crushed-up meteor particles in aerosol form? Don't be so quick to shoot this down.
Thing is, I'm more than willing to bet that TPTB simply overlooked this episode, as they're not always a big fan of continuity. I honestly am not making a case that THIS was why Tobias picked Chloe. I'm simply pointing out that Clark and Chloe should have at least made reference to that event, as that's not the sort of thing that you'd simply forget.
Originally posted by Doox
Do you really think Tobias' "power" can differentiate between direct meteor contact and contact with crushed-up meteor particles in aerosol form? Don't be so quick to shoot this down.
Thing is, I'm more than willing to bet that TPTB simply overlooked this episode, as they're not always a big fan of continuity. I honestly am not making a case that THIS was why Tobias picked Chloe. I'm simply pointing out that Clark and Chloe should have at least made reference to that event, as that's not the sort of thing that you'd simply forget.
Yes, I see your point. I wasn't really trying to "shoot it down" as much as just stating that I seriously doubt it would have anything to do with it--partially because I really don't think it would equal that as a meteor power, but moreso because tptb probably forgot.
CrazyforKal
02-15-2007, 11:18 PM
Didn't Chloe also drink the kryptonite tainted "sports drink" in Devoted?
Obviously it left her system, but I could see TPTB using those incidents as the explanation.
Or maybe not.
KANE POUND $QUAD
02-15-2007, 11:25 PM
dont forgot also that chloe was infected with that krypto lavae in rush S2
Exilus
02-15-2007, 11:46 PM
Ummm I have one problem with this for a reason. Because Lana has been affected by GreenK more than chloe has in minor things like a truth drug or the larvea, and I havent seen the episode but was lana Identified as a freak as well if not then this is not a possibility. The one thing i will give to smallville if one person is Identified and has similar or less exposures than another then both are affected not the lesser of the two.
Meaning if I am exposed 7 times and you are exposed 2 times Either we both will be meteor afected, or I will but the one two times is never affected while the one 7 is not.
MidgardDragon
02-15-2007, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by Exilus
Ummm I have one problem with this for a reason. Because Lana has been affected by GreenK more than chloe has in minor things like a truth drug or the larvea, and I havent seen the episode but was lana Identified as a freak as well if not then this is not a possibility. The one thing i will give to smallville if one person is Identified and has similar or less exposures than another then both are affected not the lesser of the two.
Meaning if I am exposed 7 times and you are exposed 2 times Either we both will be meteor afected, or I will but the one two times is never affected while the one 7 is not.
Although I do not buy into the theory that Tobias sensed Chloe as a freak because of her experiences in Truth or other episodes, your counter to it has a flaw. Tobias never scanned Lana, he never took off his glasses and looked at her. So even if she is infected he never told us one way or another.
Exilus
02-15-2007, 11:58 PM
OK like i said I havent seen the episode yes, which is why i put it in the form of a question..lol
alienkinfolk
02-16-2007, 12:05 AM
I was so hoping Tobias would scan Lana and the baby!
Dangerous George
02-16-2007, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by Doox
Do you really think Tobias' "power" can differentiate between direct meteor contact and contact with crushed-up meteor particles in aerosol form? Don't be so quick to shoot this down.
Thing is, I'm more than willing to bet that TPTB simply overlooked this episode, as they're not always a big fan of continuity. I honestly am not making a case that THIS was why Tobias picked Chloe. I'm simply pointing out that Clark and Chloe should have at least made reference to that event, as that's not the sort of thing that you'd simply forget.
:lol: :lol: :lol: good one. point taken as well
Originally posted by alienkinfolk
I was so hoping Tobias would scan Lana and the baby!
aw yeah good point:cool:
All about Clark
02-16-2007, 12:54 AM
I agree that the meteor power probably derived from either Truth's krypto-gas or Devoted's krypto-drink.
But you're all forgetting that the meteor power usually comes from a mix of krypto+something else. Maybe there was no power because in both cases the something else didn't exist. I'm betting we never see a power from Chloe, other than her computer hacking abilities which could be meteor induced, you never know, maybe the something else is her great desire to get to the truth - computer hacker. hehe
Dangerous George
02-16-2007, 01:05 AM
she was also exposed by the handshake deal where she kissed Clark in season one
InLove_with_Chloe
02-16-2007, 05:15 AM
Well, this show isn't exactly famous for its continuity...
Most likely the writers forgot.
Dangerous George
02-16-2007, 07:52 AM
true story lol
Chlark Kent
02-16-2007, 11:24 AM
I would love for this to be the reason that Tobias made a mistake, but I'm afraid we're giving the writers too much credit. However, they have been doing a lot better with continuity lately, so who knows. I just really don't want chloe to be a meteor freak.
Dangerous George
02-16-2007, 12:15 PM
too late
last man of krypton
02-16-2007, 01:00 PM
As was said by All About Clark, a power comes when Kryptonite is added to something else; such as heat (giving pyrokinesis), pheromones (giving a seduction ability) or... anything the writers think up. So even the Krypto-gas falls under the same category as everything else, since it would've been made up of Kryptonite and whatever chemicals the scientists were using.
And maybe she hasn't displayed any power because she doesn't know how to yet? Some of the abilities displayed by meteor-freaks came about because a certain situation required the use of the power, not because they knew they had it (example, the coach from "Hothead", Iceman from "Cool", or heck, even Chloe in "Truth").
Dangerous George
02-16-2007, 01:42 PM
good points.
nickyjean_1
02-16-2007, 01:49 PM
I have my own theroy.. I agree that the rock needs to be mixed with something else but only sometimes.. imo.. and there are three levels.
Exposure.. where someone uses the affect on you, like hug and truth.. and even heat.. they used the abilty on you so you are exposed and it makes you complient to the abilty but you yourself aren't permently affected..
Then infection: rush had a parasite, and Chloe had the truth grug, and love cola, Oliver had the super healing drug, Lois had love potion number 9.. there is something introduced to the body that causes an affect but when the item leaves the system there is no further affect..
Finally what I consider the metor freak.. with an introduction of metor rock with or without a catalysis a person is physical mutated to have powers the mutation is there and it's not normal, which is what I truely believe Tobias was 'seeing'.. the physical mutations may or may not fade over time and may or maynot be reversable..
This is of course my opinion.. so feel free to call me a fool.. but don't type it in a post .... you'll hurt my feelings.. :rotfl:
***also on a side note with Chloe and truth...I personally thought there was more then just the victim being affected ... when people answered her questions she almost got uphoric (sp?) or blissful with a dose of pleasure.. and it seemed to me that when pete avoided answering was the first time she felt pain making me think that if someone tried to resist it had the oppisite affect on her causing her pain.. and in a way I thought it was planned like this .. bc it encourage the interrigator to keep going and digging.. and the reason it started killing people later was because the targets of the interrogations weren't highschool boys but trained spies, prepared to resist interrogation.. again my crazy opinion.. but wished it could have been explored more.. LOL
Dangerous George
02-16-2007, 01:58 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by nickyjean_1
[B]I have my own theroy.. I agree that the rock needs to be mixed with something else but only sometimes.. no, what you've stated is well thought out and carefully deliberated.
When one takes into consideration what you've stated, the same thing can be said of Lana from Nicodemus epi along with the epi that she and Whitney were riding horses and stopped in the field where the gas line exploded and the meteor impacted on Lana like the Eyes of Laura Mars? movie with Faye Dunnaway being able to see out of the eyes of the killer Tommy Lee (ripoff anyone :lol: ). So if Tobias could see it of Chloe he should be able to see it of Lana as well. Yes? No?
nickyjean_1
02-16-2007, 02:06 PM
Actually, I consider those both infections.. there was a tempory bond between that cop and lana..and the gas was just that infection...
But I do believe that Chloe's constant interaction with meteor rock has slowly mutated her.. I mean sometimes the reaction (creating the freak) is an instant thing.. but there haven't been much shown in the show about the long term affects of it.. I mean Chloe spent alot of time with it.. and I do think that Lana (who wore the crystal around her neck like forever) may have slowly mutated in some way.. or not.. mutation doesn't happen in every encounter.. so it's very xfactor if you can forgive the pun... lol
Dangerous George
02-16-2007, 02:24 PM
Well ok,
it is interesting that the Linda Carter episode in which she plays role of Chloe's mom is herself a FOTW with some sort of mental powers - now this might be the severing tie that separates Chloe being FOTW by accident of offspring and Lana not being FOTW. Go figure?
clarksgirl93
02-16-2007, 02:55 PM
deos anyone remember when chloe got bitten by lana when she was a "vampire"? that mixed with the truth gas and all the other meteor rock shes come encountered with mite have formed a new power that she will develope soon........the bite was just the icing on the cake!
ox007
02-18-2007, 05:25 PM
Remember that episode when she could get information from anyone she talked to? Except CK of course. It was after she's been exposed to a meteor rock spray or something. It was in season 3 I think. And in season 4 she was under the influence of the love potion made of the meteor rock. Yes she was "cured" after those situations but maybe something remained in her system? Maybe there are still traces of the rock in her organism?
ox007
02-19-2007, 07:03 AM
Or the side effects of this will occur in next episodes?
Honey45
02-19-2007, 11:35 AM
The episode was called Truth.
I assume season 2 or 3.
She was sprayed with a Kryptonite mix at Luthorcorp, which in the end made her sick, and Clark gave her an antidote.
So we're free to assume she was clean of Kryptonite at the end of that episode.
margroks
02-26-2007, 08:31 AM
The truth gas had Kryptonite as an ingredient but it was counteracted by the injection Clark gave her, the antidote. Now if anyone should be a meteor freak it would be Lana who wore a Kryptonite rock around her neck for thirteen years.
Originally posted by ox007
Remember that episode when she could get information from anyone she talked to? Except CK of course. It was after she's been exposed to a meteor rock spray or something. It was in season 3 I think. And in season 4 she was under the influence of the love potion made of the meteor rock. Yes she was "cured" after those situations but maybe something remained in her system? Maybe there are still traces of the rock in her organism?
Do you actually read the other replies in this thread before replying? Especially the original post?
Caper 469
02-26-2007, 04:18 PM
I think that it's was very clever of the writers to come up with this storyline for one of our favorite characters. I mean how ironic is it that Chloe, the originator of the wall of weird, hot on the trail of freaks every week, is now a meteor infected freak herself. Honestly, who would've guessed? ... Imagine the future plot lines. I love it.
Mr. Wrong
02-26-2007, 04:41 PM
Although we are only assuming that Chloe is a meteor-freak, there could be several times where she may have become infected. How about when she transported with Alicia. Then there was her trips to the FOS. Perhaps being near CK when he was in training mode caused her to be infected. Even though the truth gas was several seasons ago it doesn't mean that her DNA wasn't irrevocably altered. Much like Lana's pregnancy, I think we will have to wait and see the truth revealed.
drwood
02-26-2007, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Doox
Here's the official teaser from the episode (season 3 #18, I think):
When Chloe (Allison Mack) accidentally inhales a mysterious krypto-gas, she discovers it acts as a truth serum to anyone who comes in contact with her and decides to take advantage of her new power by going to the Kents (John Schneider, Annette O'Toole) to find out Clark's (Tom Welling) secret. However, her new power comes with fatal consequences and Clark must find an antidote before she discovers the truth about him or worse, dies.
So, yes - this was kryptonite-based. And just because someone has a meteor power doesn't mean Clark should be weak around them.
We all know how often the Smallville "teasers" are inacurate or simply wrong. In this case, the gas was first developed by Lionel well before the meteor shower, so it WAS NOT kryptonite based -- this is not just my opinion, its in the episode.
Mr. Wrong
02-27-2007, 09:14 AM
I'm afraid it is just your opinion. The gas was developed by Lionel from the meteor rock dispersed in the first shower, not the second! So I guess that means that SV "teasers" are still plausible.
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