Was it uncharacteristic of Clark (superman) to let the other guy die catching Lana?

[elway]

I know Batman wouldn't hesitate to let him die but I thought (and believe me I aint complaining) CK/SM always helps everyone. Even if that means the bad guy every now and then. Just a small observation.

[krpto]

I think we where ment to beleave that clark arrived after the guy hit the ground but before he caught lana.

[lana&Clark4ever]

but they both fell at the same time....who would you catch and save? lana or wacko fabritzio watever that stalker guy's name was?

[Son of Kal-El20]

He doesn't know how to fly yet.

[elway]

Originally posted by lana&Clark4ever
but they both fell at the same time....who would you catch and save? lana or wacko fabritzio watever that stalker guy's name was? He could have caught both. One with each pinkie. This is SM were talking about Lana and that guy would be like us picking up two peices of loose leaf paper.

But I believe it was to further Lana's findings of Clark. But he could have got both.

[Son of Kal-El20]

Until he wears the suit. He doesn't want any human villian knowing what he can do.

[Exodus2000]

Originally posted by elway
But I believe it was to further Lana's findings of Clark.

i agree

but still....it does seem out of character for Clark/Superman

[Son of Kal-El20]

^We're talking about the same Clark who threw a guy through a roof in 'Run'. It was in character.

[elway]

I guess it seemd different cause in run HE tossed the guy. Here he just watched a falling guy (granted the bad guy) die. In the ep where Dr. Hamilton gets the kryptonite dumped on his head (after almost killing Pete) Clark still wanted to help him. In the end that sceen was meant to put more suspision in Lana's mind.

[freefall]

Also the same Clark who incinerated the Ginsu boy in Gone when Lois had already tasered him. The same guy who always threw people around like rag dolls. Also, I think he could have saved Brendan from smashing his own body into pieces in Forever.

I guess he still needs to get a handle on this whole "don't let anybody die/injured if you can help it, while you're doing your hero thing."

[lana&Clark4ever]

superman...wait a minute....he's not even superman yet!!

[krpto]

I jhust rewatched the clip he is grabbing lana and she pushes him he starts to fall through the glass put grabs her armt o pull her with him so she sarts falling about a couple feet after him so he could have easily hit the ground right before clark got there.

[elway]

In the end of the EP where Pete finds out his secret when their in the storm cellar. Pete says "but Hamilton was gonna tell your secret" something to that effect. Clark's response was "Pete I can't let anyone get hurt protecting my secret" something like that as well. Then Pete says "man it must be messed up being you."

[silverstreak]

no. because he was the bad guy.

[Titan27]

No!! Absolutely not. SM would save Lan first then if he had time would have saved the other guy but you have to remember that Clark isn't as powerful yet as he will be when he is SM. When he is SM he would have been strong enough to save them both.

[elway]

Originally posted by silverstreak
no. because he was the bad guy. It's pretty blatant that in all the tellings of SM wether good or bad SM will save u. Now if you fall on the bad side expect a trip to jail. But thats 1 of the main differences between SM and Batman. Batman would have let that guy fall no hesitation SM is the opposite. As I said before I think the scene was more for Lana getting more evidence about Clark than the morals of SM.

[cloisinmyheart]

i think it was slightly un-superman because. superman is selfless and he wouldnt put his own selfish desires in front of the safety of others

[j-kent]

nitpicking again!??! ooo geeez

for all we know he could have showed up there at the very very last nano second i mean he's fast, but he's not that fast

[elway]

Originally posted by j-kent
nitpicking again!??! ooo geeez

for all we know he could have showed up there at the very very last nano second i mean he's fast, but he's not that fast No pal this wasn't started out to complain. Just read my first post just BSin in here. Sorry cheif for what YOU consider nitpicking. I'll make sure to check with you next time sheriff

[j-kent]

no need to get defensive and hostile lol *nudges you on ur lil shoulder

[elway]

No prob bro but the way u came into the fold was with ur eyes rolling at the subject. No big deal...

[j-kent]

i know i make those small observations too I just try to stay away from nitpicking myself i was jk tho my bad

[Flux capacitor]

could you girls get a room please.

[SteveS]

It appears that ClarkMan only has eyes for Lana still, therefore the bad guy met his destiny head first.

[nathanjamesk1]

he's not Supeman yet. he's still a BDA who lives on a farm in Smallville....

[caseybrn]

No..thats ANOTHER sign this Clark hasn't matured from 15 to 20...

Look at how powerful he was when he can jump like 1/2 mile without much effort...he could have caught the other guy

In fact he would have never let the real bad guy in the hospital go after he tossed the photog....

He would have heard his heart beat and the tone of his voice and knew he was hiding something...actually he would have X-rayed and found something hidden...but they never want to show Clark using his powers intelligently...

[j-kent]

nah bro it's called giving us a plot to follow and some entertainment instead of wishful thinking and taking the easy way out

[Krypton935]

No i think that the bad dude and lana fell at the same time. He couldn't catch both of them

[Martin le Magicien]

Clark can run to Brezilia in 3 seconds. He could have catched both easiled, and chosed not too. Smallville just doesn't know who Clark Kent is, and gives us this retarded 21 years old teen instead.

I don't care how much people say he is not Superman yet. He dosen't need the costume to have enough moral decency to not let a guy die when he can save him.

[MagnusGallant]

Even if he was too late, he didn't even seem to regret the fact that the guy died. It was very out of character. I was reading the Superman comics the other day:

Superman: What happened here officer?

Officer: Oh, it's you, Superman. We're just wrappin' up here. Some guy took a dive off the building. Looks like a suicide. Man, there must be less painful ways to bump yourself off, huh?

Superman: If only I could've got here a few minutes earlier...

Officer: Ah, don't beat yourself up over this loser, pal. He's spent so much time in the joint over the years, some of us talked about giving him a key.

Superman: A human being just died here, officer. Regardless of his past, this is one occasion where the man deserves a little respect.

Truly inspirational.

[monstra]

oh gosh, you guys over analize everything when it comes to clark and his morals

[darkone]

^True god will Clark ever do something right for you?He saved the woman he claims to love and not a frickin psycho.Good enough for me.:D

[Martin le Magicien]

Originally posted by MagnusGallant
Even if he was too late, he didn't even seem to regret the fact that the guy died. It was very out of character. I was reading the Superman comics the other day:

Superman: What happened here officer?

Officer: Oh, it's you, Superman. We're just wrappin' up here. Some guy took a dive off the building. Looks like a suicide. Man, there must be less painful ways to bump yourself off, huh?

Superman: If only I could've got here a few minutes earlier...

Officer: Ah, don't beat yourself up over this loser, pal. He's spent so much time in the joint over the years, some of us talked about giving him a key.

Superman: A human being just died here, officer. Regardless of his past, this is one occasion where the man deserves a little respect.

Truly inspirational.

Thanks for sharing that with us MagnusGallant. Now, that is Superman, one that TWClark can never be.

He will always try to save someone if he can, and will be sad if he is too late. Now, that's what being human is about. Not doing so many mistakes and crimes you deserve to be locked up forever or to be strip of any kind of powers.

[elway]

Originally posted by monstra
oh gosh, you guys over analize everything when it comes to clark and his morals It wasn't intended to be a serious evaluation but kinda went that way. I started the thread by saying "I'm not complaining." I thought the actions reminded me of Batman not the do gooder Clark. But as more ppl posted it did show a big difference in character. Now U can look up and down my profile and not find one other comment about the actions of Clark. This one seemed way over the top for him thats all. And the arguement that he couldn't get there in time is not plausable.

And Magnus said a lot in his post on how out of character it really was. Sorry K-Site for "nitpicking" this blatant flaw in the character. You know the character that is above any one else in DC or Marvel when it comes to MORALS. :rolleyes:

[Davlok]

My guess is he knew that the photographer didn't actually have a "peice" on him and suspected the bodyguard of murder.

[krpto]

rewatch the scene the guy was clearly falling before lana he could have easily hit the ground right as or before clark got into the room. I say the guy hit and clark got there just in time to save lana he would have saved the guy if possible he just got there a spilt second to late.

[elway]

^^ I know they show it that way but were talking about a guy whos faster than a bullet. Which is by far faster than a falling body. Not to mention him running to Hunderous in a few secs. Remember how fast he was when him and Pete were in the cemetary looking for that little girl that had superspeed. He was so fast the rain drops stood still. So that theory of not being able to get there isn,t air tight by no means.

[Mrs.Bizzaro]

Well this clark is not like the comic book clark...by far. This is smallville's version of clark kent before he became superman.

With that being said we have to look at smallville's clark and his actions and compare them to what he did or did not do in that scene.

Clark is super fast. He could have gotten there in time to catch them both.
But I was under the impression that as that was happening he was with Chloe looking at those pictures. When clark came upon the picture of that event his mother was attending it happened at the exact same time Lana and the guard where on the roof. Clark is fast but he can't teleport himself so the possibility that he might have gotten there too late to same them both could still hold up.

As for how clark reacted when he seemingly didn't care that the guard was dead...What we saw was the guard dead on the floor and then a pan over to clark's feet and him carrying lana. He was reoccupied at the moment. And although it would have been hilarious, Clark's not going to toss Lana across the room to rush to the guard's side to see if he was alive or not.
( I still like lana)

And no, they weren't falling at the same time. The guard was ahead of her and she was a couple feet...I'd say maybe just about 2 to 3 feet. So clark maybe got there in time to save just lana. He could have just gotten there and she just fell in his arms....LOL, ok that last one was funny but laugh, this site is supposed to be fun. ;)

[elway]

Well I'm out of this debate cause to tell you the truth I wouldn't have caught the guy either. I'd a been like the Punisher to him. So I'm out of this one now. I like the darker heroes. I just saw a character flaw in SM or CK which ever in that scene. No big deal. In the end that scene was to build up more suspsion from Lana towards Clark. Just another piece of the puzzle for Lana.

[krpto]

Originally posted by elway
^^ I know they show it that way but were talking about a guy whos faster than a bullet. Which is by far faster than a falling body. Not to mention him running to Hunderous in a few secs. Remember how fast he was when him and Pete were in the cemetary looking for that little girl that had superspeed. He was so fast the rain drops stood still. So that theory of not being able to get there isn,t air tight by no means.

It is with him superspeeding from chloe all over the place and look for her and into the luthor mantion the guy clearly hit the floor just before clark got there so he couldn't catch the guy but still managed to barely catch lana.

[Son of Kal-El20]

Good let him fall. This Clark needs a backbone unlike the weakling Superman has been in the movies. This Clark should be more like the George Reeves Superman. Now he was a tough Superman and didn't put too much pity on crime. The Superman in the movies cries like a girl when he gets beaten up.

I think this Clark is going to be more of a manly superhero. He just needs to work on his responsibilties and 'Lana' issue.

[HnK]

Clark has super breath, super hearing, heat vision, super speed and he is indestructible. Where are all the cool abillities, e.g Super farting / burping?

[Jaded Wolf]

He is not Superman yet. Maybe he hasn't developed his sense of using his powers responsibly or ensuring that every criminal he comes across is saved for prosecution.

Originally posted by monstra
oh gosh, you guys over analize everything when it comes to clark and his morals

They do. They really do. What next? Are you gonna break out the microscopes and probe deeper into the chemical makeup of Clark Kent? Sheesh!!! :rolleyes:

[Ginx]

Originally posted by silverstreak
no. because he was the bad guy.

I agree with that....the other guy was the bad guy - so if there are two falling people Clark's got to go with the lesser evil.

Although he is superman so he really could have caught them both I suppose. :p