Lana's baby, Evan and meteor freaks [Archive]

Erok-El

02-01-2007, 08:47 PM

I have a theory that’s maybe too complicated for the writers, but here we go. Lex has artificially inseminated Lana with genetic material from the meteor freaks of 33.1 and Evan from Ageless, to make a super meteor freak with the powers of the freaks he has in custody. Using Evans DNA he can super age the baby into an adult in two days, making a viable enemy anyone who he comes across (Clark). He has planned this pregnancy since the beginning of their relationship. It's all one big ploy.

This also means that Clark would have to enlist the help of the Justice League (hopefully) to overpower this new enemy. Maybe this will happen late season 6, early season 7 or the encompassing story arc of season 7.

Any way that's just how I feel about it, What do you think?

No takers?

niki

02-01-2007, 08:49 PM

Whoa, what a theory!
You should consider handing in a resume to be a writer for the show! That's an awesome idea, not sure if the writers are heading in that direction but I guess we'll have to wait and see!

And this might seem like an odd question, but I can't remember back to the beginning of the season ... did Lana seem really shocked at being pregnant? Did she ever admit to having sex with Lex? If she hasn't, then maybe that artifically inseminated theory could very well be a possibility!

fe26mike

02-01-2007, 09:05 PM

I think you may be partially right...but I don't think it's the meteor freak idea. I think the love child of Lana and Lex is in-turn actually Zod. While Zod posessed Lex's body he planned to start a new order and a new race with Lana. So it would be very possible that to some small part of Zod still remains in Lex and plans to be reborn with his own body through Lana's baby. The 33.1 studies could be a step at understanding the powers allowing the child to gain his powers at a younger age instead of gradually like Clark has had to.

KryptonX81

02-01-2007, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by niki
Did she ever admit to having sex with Lex? If she hasn't, then maybe that artifically inseminated theory could very well be a possibility!

I dont waana go into too much detail, but we saw her starting to do it with Lex at the end of an epsiode earlier in the season. After a costume aprty she took him into the office and they both undressed eachother. While we never specificly saw them do anything, it is heavily implied that they did it.

muffinpeddler

02-01-2007, 09:11 PM

KryptonX81

02-01-2007, 09:13 PM

So your saying that we are gonna get an episode where the justice league gives Lana an abortion?

niki

02-01-2007, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by KryptonX81
I dont waana go into too much detail, but we saw her starting to do it with Lex at the end of an epsiode earlier in the season. After a costume aprty she took him into the office and they both undressed eachother. While we never specificly saw them do anything, it is heavily implied that they did it.

Ahh, thanks for refreshing my memory!
I remember that one now...

And how much I laughed when Lex was topless but still wearing a Roman skirt and looked like a girl ... ohh boy. But yup, there was definitely implications that they had did something that night!

manofsteele05

02-01-2007, 09:16 PM

I think we all can agree that LANA is carrying ZODS baby.... I still said it before way back when I first became a memeber 2 years ago that LANA would get prego from LEX somehow and that CLARK will be responsible for the death of that baby and that will ultimately put the OFFICIAL icing on the war of SUPERMAN and LEX LUTHOR....

Erok-El

02-01-2007, 09:41 PM

I specifically remember Lex saying in Ageless, he was planning on leaving a different type of legacy ie: no children. I also doubt that the child is a Zod incarnate, Lex would consider a threat if he couldn't control easily.

Lex may have had sex with Lana, but that doesn't mean he got her pregnant. Lots of people have sex and don't have children.

Originally posted by KryptonX81
So your saying that we are gonna get an episode where the justice league gives Lana an abortion?

This is a perfect idea for an episode it could be called, EXTRACTION. :rotfl:

kryptonguy

02-01-2007, 09:46 PM

No, we are never going to agree that Lana is carrying Zod's baby. That just doesnt fit. Zod was gone and in the crystal well before Lex and Lana had sex.

After this episode I think it is safe to say that this child is an experiment that Lex is doing, meaning it was planned by him for TWO purposes. One was to get Lana to marry him, the second is not really know. It is possible that it is some geneticly altered embreo from 33.1.....but it is Lex not Zod doing this.

I also have to wonder if the baby will actually make it to term. I doubt the justice league would kill the kid, but if Lana found out what Lex's real plan is (we can only speculate), who knows if she would terminate. Also, the kid could be a still born. And if the kid is actually alive when he is born, who is to say that Lex or Lionel doesnt take the kid and tell Lana that the baby died during birth.

Too man questions after this episode, but at least it shows that Lex is doing everything that Clark said he was in the Loft tonight. Playing this "game" and going after everything that Clark has had.

BruceWang

02-01-2007, 10:09 PM

Have you considered that it might be Clark's baby? It hasn't been that long since Clark and Lana were together, and a Kryptonian embryo might mature more slowly.

xrayvision

02-01-2007, 10:15 PM

I had a theory on this:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2721519#post2721519

But I doubt it will have anything to do with Zod. I definitely think it is something to do with 33.1 research.

Erok-El

02-01-2007, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by BruceWang
Have you considered that it might be Clark's baby? It hasn't been that long since Clark and Lana were together, and a Kryptonian embryo might mature more slowly.

I have considered that, and the fact that kryptonians could have a longer gestation period. It would disturb me if Lex had allowed Lana to have Clark's child. That is not something he could live with, he would never the child with love, but the way he was raised with challenges, neglect and cruelty. And besides it would bring Clark into his life if he ever found out. Maybe if Lex could figure out a way to control the abilities with minute amounts of kryptonite, through Mikhail Mxyzptlk or as-of-yet unknown means it could be plausible. And there's the fact that it would take years to develop the full array of kryptonian abilities. The idea that Lex is using Lana's pregnancy as an experiment seems more plausible to me.

Originally posted by xrayvision
But I doubt it will have anything to do with Zod. I definitely think it is something to do with 33.1 research.

Especially because this is the focus of the season not a Zod experiment, but a meteor freak experiment.

The whole storyline is just overall wierd and comicbooky.

xrayvision

02-01-2007, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by Erok-El
The whole storyline is just overall wierd and comicbooky.

I'm not sure about weird, but comicbooky is the way it should be. It's not a stretch at all that Lex would be doing something like 33.1. Ever since the beginning, he has been obsessed with all things meteor rock. I even posted a thread in the Speculation forum that got buried by all the shipper threads about the earliest sign of 33.1 being in season 1 (Kinetic).

Erok-El

02-01-2007, 10:49 PM

xrayvision, I went back and found your post. I have to say it is gold, but I found a major flaw. His secrets would have been exposed when was stuck on the Island in Exile. Who would have covered for him Helen, Lionel, Dr. Teng? The idea is good but it goes back so far and the writers don't remember when people die or have heart attacks. But given their lack of 100% continuity it could be possible and if it is more power to Lex and to you.:D

Sharkie

02-01-2007, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by xrayvision
I'm not sure about weird, but comicbooky is the way it should be. It's not a stretch at all that Lex would be doing something like 33.1. Ever since the beginning, he has been obsessed with all things meteor rock. I even posted a thread in the Speculation forum that got buried by all the shipper threads about the earliest sign of 33.1 being in season 1 (Kinetic). I am interested in seeing your theory on this. Would you mind posting the link to that thread?

xrayvision

02-01-2007, 10:56 PM

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=68273

DarkseidX

02-01-2007, 11:18 PM

Great theory xray, only thing is, I'm pretty sure Cadmus Labs was Cadmus Labs as Clark and Lex did visit it.

Either way, 33.1 as early as season 1 sounds like a great theory.

xrayvision

02-01-2007, 11:53 PM

^^Thanks. The thing is, they never showed Cadmus Labs. So I don't think Clark ever saw it. He saw Metron Pharmaceuticals, which was Lionel's company that made that Lazarus drug based on Clark's blood. But I never saw them going to Cadmus Labs. I know Dr. Hamilton was sent there after the fiasco in Nicodemus. I also know the parasites from Rush were sent there.

Originally posted by Erok-El
xrayvision, I went back and found your post. I have to say it is gold, but I found a major flaw. His secrets would have been exposed when was stuck on the Island in Exile. Who would have covered for him Helen, Lionel, Dr. Teng? The idea is good but it goes back so far and the writers don't remember when people die or have heart attacks. But given their lack of 100% continuity it could be possible and if it is more power to Lex and to you.:D

I'm not sure. Maybe he had some very trusted people he would leave it to if anything would happen to him. It could be possible that he funded it with profits from some stock to completely disconnect it from anything dealing with Luthorcorp. A particle accelerator means he was up to something big, and since he didn't want Lionel to know about it, I'm guessing it had to do with Cadmus Labs, since Lionel never found out why he kept that company when as Lionel said, its only purpose was to be pumped & dumped to trick Harry & Victoria Hardwick. So I'm guessing that from there, Cadmus became 33.1.

If you go to wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadmus

You'll see some similarities with the Greek mythological Cadmus and what Lex may have been doing. Here is one paragraph I found to be interesting:

By the instructions of Athena, he sowed the Dragon's teeth in the ground, from which there sprang a race of fierce armed men, called Spartes ("sown"). By throwing a stone among them, Cadmus caused them to fall upon one another until only five survived, who assisted him to build the Cadmeia or citadel of Thebes, and became the founders of the noblest families of that city.

This seems like the Spartes could be compared to his army of freaks, as Cadmus Labs' original intention was to be what 33.1 is doing today.

It even talks about Project Cadmus, which is from the comics and related to Superman.

Erok-El

02-02-2007, 12:35 AM

I know about Project Cadmus in the comics, I am a big fan of Superboy Kon-El and Batman Beyond. Lex disconnecting Cadmus from Luthorcorp is something he would do to hide it from his father.

After further thought and consideration: When did Lex crossover to the dark side? We saw a glimpse of 33.1 in Jinx, and it was implied other freaks were there, but what was his original intention? Has he always been evil, and hungry for world domination?

He was shown as a good person in seasons one and two, but not so much in three. Did he put his plans into action then or has he been doing this behind the scenes since season one?

xrayvision

02-02-2007, 12:44 AM

I think his original intent of 33.1 was meteor rock related. I think it was meant to be a huge site where he would have the tools and equipment to really conduct experiments like never before using kryptonite. This was his obsession as soon as he started learning about all the stuff that happened in Smallville (which he read in the Torch in Craving).

Sharkie

02-02-2007, 12:48 AM

Maybe Superboy is coming to Smallville...

CSBen

02-02-2007, 12:49 AM

I don't know why but I haven't seen anyone post about the scene where Lex asked the weird man in the suit about the baby, right at the end after he's spoken to Lana..

he askes the Doctor (I assume)..

"How is she ___(doing?)"

"Well you know this isn't the most typical pregnancy - but everythings on schedule"

How has nobody posted about that!?

svsabbiesv

02-02-2007, 12:52 AM

wow brilliant! I would have never thought back to Evan but makes super sense..to make the army he always wanted..

xrayvision

02-02-2007, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by CSBen
I don't know why but I haven't seen anyone post about the scene where Lex asked the weird man in the suit about the baby, right at the end after he's spoken to Lana..

he askes the Doctor (I assume)..

"How is she ___(doing?)"

"Well you know this isn't the most typical pregnancy - but everythings on schedule"

How has nobody posted about that!?

There have been posts on this. You have to dig.

Erok-El

02-02-2007, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by xrayvision
I think his original intent of 33.1 was meteor rock related. I think it was meant to be a huge site where he would have the tools and equipment to really conduct experiments like never before using kryptonite. This was his obsession as soon as he started learning about all the stuff that happened in Smallville (which he read in the Torch in Craving).

So his original plan just kind of mutated into a meteor freak containment facility. This is better than just collecting the freaks from the beginning. Plausible and hopefully true.

BTW, I would love to have your memory.

krpto

02-02-2007, 12:01 PM

how about this lex secretly combined some of the dna from the unkown blood sample he slote from lionel when lionel was making that serum that temporaryily repared liver damage with him and secretly had the doctor artificially inseminate lana while secretly exposing her to diferent drugs she has the baby who rapidly ages till lex stops the aging with some other drug and the kid now goes crazy with his messed up dna and powers and takes off destoying everything in his path. lana scared runs to clark who has to find a way to stop this bizzaro.

Erok-El

02-02-2007, 12:17 PM

Never thought of a Bizarro storyline. But didn't Lex say that he hadn't analyzed the blood. I thought he was being truthful seeing as he actually wanted to marry Helen, but I could have been mistaken.

1. Baby aged to Adulthood using Evans DNA, with powers.

2. Baby aged to Adulthood using Evans DNA, turns into Bizarro.

3. Baby aged to Adulthood using Evans DNA, with the powers of Bizarro and meteor freaks.

As much as I like option one. Option three just seems cool.

krpto

02-02-2007, 12:31 PM

I don't think lex looked at the blood he stole from helen but I am ssure he took some from lionel's team when they were making and testing the serum that healed the liver damage temporarily.

ducky

02-02-2007, 12:32 PM

Erok-El

02-02-2007, 01:15 PM

I see your point krpto. He didn't know they were the same.

ducky:rotfl: :lol: :rotfl:

Red K 5

02-02-2007, 01:27 PM

WookieeBoy

02-02-2007, 01:39 PM

OK, this is my wife's idea, not mine, but I think it's interesting. What if Lana's baby is a clone of Lex's dead baby brother, Julian? The problem I see with the theory is where did Lex get the genetic material, unless he dug up his own brother's grave?

Red K 5

02-02-2007, 01:53 PM

^^EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!... THAT IS SICK AND WRONG

griffyn612

02-02-2007, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by Erok-El
I have a theory that’s maybe too complicated for the writers, but here we go. Lex has artificially inseminated Lana with genetic material from the meteor freaks of 33.1 and Evan from Ageless, to make a super meteor freak with the powers of the freaks he has in custody. Using Evans DNA he can super age the baby into an adult in two days, making a viable enemy anyone who he comes across (Clark). He has planned this pregnancy since the beginning of their relationship. It's all one big ploy.

This also means that Clark would have to enlist the help of the Justice League (hopefully) to overpower this new enemy. Maybe this will happen late season 6, early season 7 or the encompassing story arc of season 7.

Any way that's just how I feel about it, What do you think?

No takers?

1) The only thing is that Evan's pregnancy was super-fast, as was his development. Your plot would require him to have a normal pregnancy, and then ignite the super-growth, and then halt it again. Seems a bit much for Lex to be able to control.

2) All of the meteor-freaks gained their abilities in nature from kryptonite, based on their situation. If the baby is exposed to kryptonite in the womb, then it would mutate based on its surroundings like the others did. I don't know what power that would give the child, but it wouldn't be the same as the others.

3) Mapping genetics is difficult enough in regular humans, mapping out the genetic mutations in the meteor freaks would be insane. then you have to merge them together in a reproductive cell to insert into her? maybe in the comics when things are more surreal, but not on Smallville.

Good creative ideas, but way too much (as you said yourself) for the Smallville staff to formulate.

But then again, it's not any LESS believable than what they give us.

Red K 5

02-02-2007, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by griffyn612
2) All of the meteor-freaks gained their abilities in nature from kryptonite, based on their situation. If the baby is exposed to kryptonite in the womb, then it would mutate based on its surroundings like the others did. I don't know what power that would give the child, but it wouldn't be the same as the others.

WOMB POWER!!!!!!!!

griffyn612

02-02-2007, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by Red K 5
WOMB POWER!!!!!!!!

That would be, what, the ability to touch things with his hands and absorb their energy and materials through placenta-style ambilical hands?

ewwwww.....

Red K 5

02-02-2007, 02:13 PM

^^what... I just came up with the name... I don't know what womb power is

griffyn612

02-02-2007, 02:15 PM

now that's just irresponsible, creating powers and not defining what they are? around here, if you don't clearly define something, than people will just run with it.

like, in 10 minutes, a thread will be started speculating about how the baby will be able to trap Clark in a Kryptonite womb.

see? gotta define it, or it will run rampant.

Red K 5

02-02-2007, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by griffyn612
now that's just irresponsible, creating powers and not defining what they are? around here, if you don't clearly define something, than people will just run with it.

like, in 10 minutes, a thread will be started speculating about how the baby will be able to trap Clark in a Kryptonite womb.

see? gotta define it, or it will run rampant.
:lol: ... ok how about the baby will have the power to sent anyone he/she touches back into their mother's womb... it would suck for anyone (Clark) whose mother is dead 'cuz he would just get trapped in a void

griffyn612

02-02-2007, 02:26 PM

now that would suck for the mother, wouldn't it? i mean, even if the baby did it to someone who's mother was still alive?

imagine a 5'something Chloe stuck in her mother. That would be really uncomfortable for them both, but her mother would go insane. wait, she already is.

Red K 5

02-02-2007, 02:29 PM

:lol:

that girl

02-02-2007, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by BruceWang
Have you considered that it might be Clark's baby? It hasn't been that long since Clark and Lana were together, and a Kryptonian embryo might mature more slowly.

I've never believed this because Clark and Lana haven't been together for really quite a long time now but you do make a good point about the whole Kryptonian embryo thing. Still, I sort of doubt it since, although it's no longer unheard of for Clark to have children (ie, Superman Returns) that was with Lois and this would be with Lana. In the Superman mythos, they're two extremely different characters and I highly doubt DC would allow SV to go in that direction.

ClarksGal

02-02-2007, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by kryptonguy
After this episode I think it is safe to say that this child is an experiment that Lex is doing, meaning it was planned by him for TWO purposes. One was to get Lana to marry him, the second is not really know. It is possible that it is some geneticly altered embreo from 33.1.....but it is Lex not Zod doing this.

I would prefer if Lex were behind it and not Zod. They have already done the Lex is possessed by Zod thing, and I want to see Lex do bad stuff, not Lexod do bad stuff.

I do kind of get the impression that the baby was not conceived naturally. I could be wrong about that, but it sounds a bit like one of Lex's experiments. Guess I'll just have to wait and see!

darkraya

02-02-2007, 03:01 PM

i think zod is the real father. if not than im sure it has something to do with 33.1.

Erok-El

02-02-2007, 04:16 PM

Oh my god. WOMB POWER!!! That was the best. thanks Red K 5.

Lex has had nearly two years to develop his formula. Along with the fact that Lionel has been cloning people and bring them back to life. Science in the Smallville universe is way beyond ours.

WOMB POWER!!!:lol:

xrayvision

02-02-2007, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by krpto
how about this lex secretly combined some of the dna from the unkown blood sample he slote from lionel when lionel was making that serum that temporaryily repared liver damage with him and secretly had the doctor artificially inseminate lana while secretly exposing her to diferent drugs she has the baby who rapidly ages till lex stops the aging with some other drug and the kid now goes crazy with his messed up dna and powers and takes off destoying everything in his path. lana scared runs to clark who has to find a way to stop this bizzaro.

Yeah, there was still a small amount of the blood platelet serum from Clark left that he could have frozen. Since he inherited Luthorcorp from Lionel, he could have found and kept the remaining serum.

I really don't want to see Bizarro though. One BDA is enough. I would much rather have him combine the DNA from that serum (which is from an unknown source to him, but he knows that the source is alien since it resembles nothing like human DNA) with his own to create a Clark clone that is a hybrid Kryptonian/human that would have powers, but would be partly indestructable as a Kryptonian and partly vulnerable. Having him age the Clark hybrid clone and use it to try to rule the world would make for an awesome storyline. I would do this in a way where Clark fights it and the human part of its body gets destroyed, but have him find the FOS and the Eradicator (which I'm thinking is being built now by Lionel with all those symbols he's reading) to regenerate the destroyed parts of his body with cyborg parts to form SV's version of the Cyborg Superman (or in this case the Cyborg Clark). Whether or not they call him Hank Henshaw wouldn't be important to me, as long as they do this. I think Clark and the Cyborg clone could have phenomenal battles.

Originally posted by ClarksGal
I do kind of get the impression that the baby was not conceived naturally.

I wonder how he got it inside Lana? Instead of the Womb Power posts I see here, I think it's more like Lex Luthor: Womb Raider.

Erok-El

02-02-2007, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by xrayvision
I wonder how he got it inside Lana? Instead of the Womb Power posts I see here, I think it's more like Lex Luthor: Womb Raider.

Chloroform and a turkey baster, do it while she is sleeping and she wouldn't feel a thing.

xrayvision

02-02-2007, 10:17 PM

^^I guess Lana should not have wanted those cameras taken out of her room.

Red K 5

02-07-2007, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by Erok-El
Oh my god. WOMB POWER!!! That was the best. thanks Red K 5.
thanks

Jephael

02-07-2007, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by that girl
Clark and Lana haven't been together for really quite a long time now but you do make a good point about the whole Kryptonian embryo thing. Still, I sort of doubt it since, although it's no longer unheard of for Clark to have children (ie, Superman Returns) that was with Lois and this would be with Lana. In the Superman mythos, they're two extremely different characters and I highly doubt DC would allow SV to go in that direction.

Actually, they once did have Lana with a mysterious son back when Annette O'Toole played the role in Superman 3. It was implied that Clark may have been the father of her kid in that storyline.