View Full Version : Clana rules all
vikingjedi
01-26-2007, 01:12 AM
You can't stop the Clana, you can only hope to contain it :p
For real I thought this was great because the writers have realized that they went too far making Lana evil. By doing this it shows Lana that Clark still cares about her and it will make it a lot more believable in the future (if/when she learns his secret)
Good job writers :D
Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 01:13 AM
After the events of the DREAM: DUN! DUN! DUN!
Clana: "Weren't we just saying goodbye?"
Yes you were!
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 01:14 AM
No comment.
kbever
01-26-2007, 10:09 AM
bring on the clana
Absentee
01-26-2007, 10:18 AM
Yep.
I actually thought that this episode was great. The Phantom used Clark's Love for Lana against him. Just like Brainiac did in Splinter when he had Clark imagine Lana "kissing Lex."
We know that one of Clark's Greatest weakness' is Lana. But his Love for her isn't a Weakness. It's what makes him the man he becomes. Otherwise he is the emotionless Kryptonian Warrior that Jor-el wanted. But that Person isn't Supeman.
^^I love that.
smallvilleobsessor17
01-26-2007, 10:35 AM
CLANA CLANA CLANA CLANA CLANA CLANA!!!!!!
meteor_phreak
01-26-2007, 10:38 AM
pish posh
mobiusklein
01-26-2007, 10:43 AM
As for Clana ruling all, is it like that evil mind-bending ring in Lord of the Rings that had to be thrown into Mount Doom to be destroyed and corrupted even the most innocent and good?
LiveForever
01-26-2007, 11:00 AM
More CLana Pleeeeease!
lildorkable004
01-26-2007, 11:08 AM
YAY CLANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder if Lana actually belives that Clark doesnt love her anymore.. what u guys think?
Rhoda123
01-26-2007, 11:14 AM
I have a comment but my mama always taught me "If you can't say something nice... don't say anything at all.." Yall know what I want to say though....
#)$*(*()#&%*(%Y$(*%&*(&
Nightingale20
01-26-2007, 02:57 PM
Yep, it is back. Another round and round the Clana merry-go-round. Just hope they don't bring Lex along for the ride.
griffyn612
01-26-2007, 02:59 PM
i'm hoping lex's last wife shows up to put a kink in the marriage plans.
STFanatic
01-26-2007, 03:09 PM
It seems the writers are following the real story, Clark moves on while still having feelings for his school days crush.
Soon he will grow up and meet Lois again in Metropolis.
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by vikingjedi
You can't stop the Clana, you can only hope to contain it :p
For real I thought this was great because the writers have realized that they went too far making Lana evil. By doing this it shows Lana that Clark still cares about her and it will make it a lot more believable in the future (if/when she learns his secret)
Good job writers :D
WTF? It's nothing to be proud of when YOUR ship is directly responsible for holding back EVERYONE'S growth on the show.
What part of that episode made Clana look like a good idea? Was it the part where Clark's fantasy dream version of Lana was a Stepford Wife Pink Princess? Or maybe it was the part where he decides his destiny is to be with Lana INSTEAD of being Superman, not ALSO it was INSTEAD. Ahhhh!!!! Clark didn't even seem to learn that freaking lesson! He pops outa the dream and immediatly starts "emo-ing" about how he loves Lana and then tells Lana about his "engangement at age ten" dream!!! How is that even approiate?! Lana is pregnant and engaged to another man!!
This episode really did have the potential to be sentimental and sweet but it totally fell flat in the end. Lana was nothing but toxic and destructive for Clark in crazyland. The set up was there. It felt like someone revised the episode at the last minute in order to appease a certain fanbase and that's so dissapointing! Clark clearly didn't learn a god damn thing. He is an emotional retard. What's worse is it's not just him or Clana that suffers!
Runestone
01-26-2007, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
WTF? It's nothing to be proud of when YOUR ship is directly responsible for holding back EVERYONE'S growth on the show.
What part of that episode made Clana look like a good idea? Was it the part where Clark's fantasy dream version of Lana was a Stepford Wife Pink Princess? Or maybe it was the part where he decides his destiny is to be with Lana INSTEAD of being Superman, not ALSO it was INSTEAD. Ahhhh!!!! Clark didn't even seem to learn that freaking lesson! He pops outa the dream and immediatly starts "emo-ing" about how he loves Lana and then tells Lana about his "engangement at age ten" dream!!! How is that even approiate?! Lana is pregnant and engaged to another man!!
This episode really did have the potential to be sentimental and sweet but it totally fell flat in the end. Lana was nothing but toxic and destructive for Clark in crazyland. The set up was there. It felt like someone revised the episode at the last minute in order to appease a certain fanbase and that's so dissapointing! Clark clearly didn't learn a god damn thing. He is an emotional retard. What's worse is it's not just him or Clana that suffers!
Now THAT sums it up perfectly! It was just an awful addition to an episode that could've been awesome.
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Runestone
Now THAT sums it up perfectly! It was just an awful addition to an episode that could've been awesome.
Aww, thanks!
I am just surprised that so many peeps actually liked that garbarge episode. :confused:
firefly01
01-26-2007, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Or maybe it was the part where he decides his destiny is to be with Lana INSTEAD of being Superman, not ALSO it was INSTEAD. Ahhhh!!!! Clark didn't even seem to learn that freaking lesson! This is the part that upset me the most. I'm sick of clapping for Clark when he finally gets a clue, only to be throwing things at the tv when he takes it all back again.
redraven
01-26-2007, 03:36 PM
So it was garbage just because of a couple Clana scenes? That's ridiculous. I liked the episode, partly because I do like Clana and I enjoyed their scenes together, but it was a good episode, and it would have been regardless of the Clana scenes they put in it.
canon
01-26-2007, 03:37 PM
TPTB has a way of regressing Clark back the second half of the season. It happens every season.
Chlarkfan4eva
01-26-2007, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
This episode really did have the potential to be sentimental and sweet but it totally fell flat in the end. Lana was nothing but toxic and destructive for Clark in crazyland. The set up was there. It felt like someone revised the episode at the last minute in order to appease a certain fanbase and that's so dissapointing! Clark clearly didn't learn a god damn thing. He is an emotional retard. What's worse is it's not just him or Clana that suffers!
I totally agree with u. That is exactly what I thought.
dave73085
01-26-2007, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by mobiusklein
As for Clana ruling all, is it like that evil mind-bending ring in Lord of the Rings that had to be thrown into Mount Doom to be destroyed and corrupted even the most innocent and good?
Brilliant analogy, mobius!
Maybe if we mounted an "ABC: Anything But Clana" campaign, they could let it rest in peace. That vocal 25% of the audience who wants Clana for no apparent reason other than they are teh pretty and meant 2b 2getha 4eva!!!1!!!1 is succeeding in ruining the show for the rest of us...
canon
01-26-2007, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by dave73085
Brilliant analogy, mobius!
Maybe if we mounted an "ABC: Anything But Clana" campaign, they could let it rest in peace. That vocal 25% of the audience who wants Clana for no apparent reason other than they are teh pretty and meant 2b 2getha 4eva!!!1!!!1 is succeeding in ruining the show for the rest of us...
Start the writing campaign.......we need to go over the 250 letters CW got from Clanas.
Runestone
01-26-2007, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by canon
Start the writing campaign.......we need to go over the 250 letters CW got from Clanas.
I'd definitely join in that campaign. 250 letters isn't that much considering how big the fan base is.
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by redraven
So it was garbage just because of a couple Clana scenes? That's ridiculous. I liked the episode, partly because I do like Clana and I enjoyed their scenes together, but it was a good episode, and it would have been regardless of the Clana scenes they put in it.
No it wasn't garbage just because of a couple of Clana scenes. If that were true, then eps like Mortal would be garbage and that one is still one of the best of the series. Sans Clana sex, but I am biased on that part, lol.
I think what you gotta realize is there was only one REAL Clana scene in the entire ep. Lana is no longer the pink fairy princess she was in season one, she hasn't been that for a loooong time now. Clana's gotta let crap go. Sorry to be so harsh.
Basically, Clark is in love with someone who does not exist - the dream Lana he almost gave his life for has never existed anywhere other than in Clark's feeble mind. The real person? He doesn't even know who the hell she really is. This is exactly why his epiphany at the end was such crap. All that experience (a phoney reality) made him do was wake up and think that he's madly in love with someone in the real world who, we know, doesn't actually exist. Awesome revelation Clark.
dave73085
01-26-2007, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by canon
Start the writing campaign.......we need to go over the 250 letters CW got from Clanas.
It's hard to organize though, because most SV fans don't want more Clana, and thus don't feel the need to retreat to their own special shipper site where their views will never be subject to question...anyone out there know how to make a website and want to start EndClana.org or LetClanaDie.Com??
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by dave73085
It's hard to organize though, because most SV fans don't want more Clana, and thus don't feel the need to retreat to their own special shipper site where their views will never be subject to question...anyone out there know how to make a website and want to start EndClana.org or LetClanaDie.Com??
LOL, for some reason this makes me think Gough's sneaky mention of the Clana's 250 letters was his way of telling us that we need to speak up. :lol:
firefly01
01-26-2007, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
LOL, for some reason this makes me think Gough's sneaky mention of the Clana's 250 letters was his way of telling us that we need to speak up. :lol: He just likes getting fanmail!! *huff*
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by firefly01
He just likes getting fanmail!! *huff*
Probably. :lol: But, hey! If it is needed to kill the Clana Zombie, then I say we give it to him! :p
MetroGirl06
01-26-2007, 04:22 PM
I would 100% support an Anti-Clana campaign!
This episode was okay, but the whole 'I almost gave everything up for this pedestool version of Lana that I was infatuated with in my freshman year of highschool, I think I still love her', thing was pretty pathetic and ridiculous!
Aloof
01-26-2007, 04:29 PM
Wow.... Just wow.
I wouldn't be proud of something that never existed.
Sorry, Clana fans.
=D
Fly by guy
01-26-2007, 04:35 PM
I can't understand why people wouldn't think that Clark would still have feelings for Lana. He "lied" to her when he sayed he didn't love her anymore and as he told Martha, he's loved her since he was what, 6 years old.
Just because they have feelings for each other doesn't mean they will get back together. It is just the writers appeasing the Clana fans, while showing that even though the "horse" they rode in on has died, it's not forgotten.
The episode was very much like Splinter. Clark has been willing to kill and give up his powers when he's delusional. I just glad to see that Lana can read Clark's emotions better now and HIS lies don't fly anymore.
monstra
01-26-2007, 04:36 PM
Pfffffffft. You guys are hilarious.
Instead of making Anti-Clana campaigns, why don't you focus your energy on doing something positive? Make a WeLoveClois/Chlark campaign, get some money and help someone who needs it.
Sure you can write some letters, complain about Clana, but to take time out of your life to make a campaign like that is well, hilarious.
I wish you all the best of lucks. :)
Aloof
01-26-2007, 04:36 PM
It's hilarious that people still like the ship. THAT'S hilarious.
monstra
01-26-2007, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Aloof
It's hilarious that people still like the ship. THAT'S hilarious.
So now we're not allowed to like Clana? We're not allowed to do something positive for it while helping other people?
It's really no wonders why Clana fans don't post here.
Aloof
01-26-2007, 04:45 PM
I'm not surprised that Clana shippers don't come on here either. This place isn't Clana-friendly.
=)
How's it helping other people? It's not.
It's repititive, annoying and old.
dave73085
01-26-2007, 04:45 PM
In response to Monstra, I would personally be happy if they moved toward Chlark, Clois anvils (but not getting together yet since that shouldn't happen until Metropolis), or even no shipping at all in favor of action and good plots! (cf. Justice!)
I think there are people with a lot of different preferences who can all agree that what is bad for the story is holding Clark back from his destiny and the man he'll become with the never ending Clanagoround pining. Return of Clana=character regression
Aloof
01-26-2007, 04:49 PM
Yes, Clana limits character growth. The pining does as well, but we all knew that.
monstra
01-26-2007, 04:51 PM
Why is that exactly?
If Lana knows the secret and they become friends/couple, how the heck is that character regression?!
Wasn't that what Smallville was about in the first place!? The story of Clark/Lana/Lex, how Clex became enemies, how Clana didn't stay together in the future?
We're supposed to know why they don't end up together. I have yet to see that, cuz if Lana knows the secret *everything* changes.
It's not like we want the pining again, I didn't see Clark pining in Labyrinth. I saw them both being civil to each other.
How is for example Clark liking Chloe NOT character regression?! In the end he's gonna have to leave her too! It's the same thing with Clana just a different girl.
All we want is some angst free interaction between them, believe me we're all tired of the yo-yo too.
MetroGirl06
01-26-2007, 04:51 PM
Monstra, you need to get over your clana-cockiness. I understand that the clana campaign also donated to charity, but I also think that that campaign had alterior motives to get what they want on the show. And plus your annoying me. Clana is not all that.
monstra
01-26-2007, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by MetroGirl06
Monstra, you need to get over your clana-cockiness. I understand that the clana campaign also donated to charity, but I also think that that campaign had alterior motives to get what they want on the show. And plus your annoying me. Clana is not all that.
:lol:
Ok Im done here. Break a leg.
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by Aloof
It's hilarious that people still like the ship. THAT'S hilarious.
:rotfl: :rotfl: So true!!
PS. AntiClana is something positive. Because without Clana, there is GROWTH on Smallville. When Clana comes back, we get sucked back down to season one.
Aloof
01-26-2007, 04:55 PM
It wouldn't make sense for Clark and Lana to be friends after all the pain he's put her through. I mean, anybody with common sense wouldn't go back to someone who LIES to them constantly, or would they? *sighs* The bipolarness of it all.
Because if they ever broke up (good chance), he'll STILL be pining again. it's a vicious cycle that NEVER ends. He can't and won't grow up. I believe the purpose of Lexana was to hopefully have Clark move on, but that hasn't happened, apparently. And he's STILL pining over her.
-__-;
Have you read the comics? Clana was together and then Clark moved onto his destiny and moved onto Lois. But he STILL moved on.
If Lana knew Clark's secret, she'd be dead. Remember Reckoning?
And no, Smallville ISN'T all about Clana, and Clark and Lex becoming enemies over a girl. Unfortunately, it's been reduced to that because Al/Miles can't think of anything else at the moment.
:/
MetroGirl06
01-26-2007, 04:55 PM
NO MORE CLANA!
Aloof
01-26-2007, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
:rotfl: :rotfl: So true!!
PS. AntiClana is something positive. Because without Clana, there is GROWTH on Smallville. When Clana comes back, we get sucked back down to season one.
Hey Athena.
;)
I agree, it's back to basics, and we don't WANT basics. We don't WANT high school romances because they're all adults and should move on already.
I swear to God they act like they're in middle school or something.
>___>'
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by Aloof
Hey Athena.
;)
I agree, it's back to basics, and we don't WANT basics. We don't WANT high school romances because they're all adults and should move on already.
I swear to God they act like they're in middle school or something.
>___>'
Yup, this is season six and they are adults now! It's about damn time they start acting like it!
No more "I love Lana. No, I don't love Lana. Wait! I do! I must have her! Now that I have her... I don't want her. Wait! What did I do?! I must have her back! No wait, that's not right either. But I love her!"
God GROW UP!!!!!!!!
Lana is no better! "I love Clark. But I hate secrets. Oh well, as long as I have Clark.... Buh! Secrets! Mehates the secrets! Oh... but Clark *moon eyes* I'll wait fwoever and wever. No, screw that! I need a real man! But, then again there is Clark..."
Aloof
01-26-2007, 05:08 PM
LMAO.
It's so babyish that it's laughable. It stuns me why so many people like this ship.
Lana: "Clark, we can be friends! But remember, don't lie to me!"
*Clark lies*
Lana: "Damnit, Clark, you lied to me AGAIN! That's it!"
:lol:
It's pathetic...
So much bipolarness. Not an attractive quality, I assure you.
;)
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Aloof
LMAO.
It's so babyish that it's laughable. It stuns me why so many people like this ship.
Lana: "Clark, we can be friends! But remember, don't lie to me!"
*Clark lies*
Lana: "Damnit, Clark, you lied to me AGAIN! That's it!"
:lol:
It's pathetic...
So much bipolarness. Not an attractive quality, I assure you.
;)
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I'm laughing to hide my pain.
dave73085
01-26-2007, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by monstra
Why is that exactly?
Wasn't that what Smallville was about in the first place!? The story of Clark/Lana/Lex, how Clex became enemies, how Clana didn't stay together in the future?
We're supposed to know why they don't end up together. I have yet to see that, cuz if Lana knows the secret *everything* changes.
It's not like we want the pining again, I didn't see Clark pining in Labyrinth. I saw them both being civil to each other.
How is for example Clark liking Chloe NOT character regression?! In the end he's gonna have to leave her too! It's the same thing with Clana just a different girl.
All we want is some angst free interaction between them, believe me we're all tired of the yo-yo too.
I definitely think the Talon scene at the end counts as pining. They even fade out Lana's face looking back at Clark.
I guess we would have hoped that once Lana made her decision to be with Lex and was having his baby, she might have the integrity to stick with it and not try to get back with Clark, who she can't believe she could ever have loved and who has nothing to offer her but secrets and lies.
The secret really changes everything? Clark would get with Lana and raise Lex's baby?
Is what you wanted Clark kidnapping Lana from her wedding dinner and telling her to marry him instead of Lex?
Chlark would be better because at least it's something new, as opposed to the Clana that's been "will they or won't they" since, oh, S1.
Lana's importance (and the inexplicable worship she receives) in Smallville is way out of whack. She's the girl that gets left behind. Can we please leave her behind already??
ETA: WORD to Aloof and RedPhoenix's posts :lol:
Aloof
01-26-2007, 05:19 PM
XD
I'm not in any pain, well, if you call frustration and hate pain, then so be it.
Originally posted by dave73085
I definitely think the Talon scene at the end counts as pining. They even fade out Lana's face looking back at Clark.
I guess we would have hoped that once Lana made her decision to be with Lex and was having his baby, she might have the integrity to stick with it and not try to get back with Clark, who she can't believe she could ever have loved and who has nothing to offer her but secrets and lies.
The secret really changes everything? Clark would get with Lana and raise Lex's baby?
Is what you wanted Clark kidnapping Lana from her wedding dinner and telling her to marry him instead of Lex?
Chlark would be better because at least it's something new, as opposed to the Clana that's been "will they or won't they" since, oh, S1.
Lana's importance (and the inexplicable worship she receives) in Smallville is way out of whack. She's the girl that gets left behind. Can we please leave her behind already??
ETA: WORD to Aloof and RedPhoenix's posts :lol:
Thanks!
Word up.
=D
I completely agree with you here, just let Lexana live their lives, puhlease.
^_^
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 05:24 PM
Oh Clark pined alright! Clark was willing to let that Phantom drill his skull in order to live happily ever after with Lana. If it wasn't for whatever the hell Shelby did to make Lana's face fade away from the window that Clark was looking at for strength, Clark Kent would be possessed by a dirty Phantom.
Does Clark realize this? NOOOOOOOPE. Clark's loves Lana. Which is really sick if you think about it. The AULana is what made him realize this, but the AULana was a total freak! Even her matter of speech was freaky! :eek::eek: Is that what Clark really wants?! *cringes* That is so messed up! No wonder he broke up with Lana before! *smacks head* He wanted a Stepford Pink Princess Lana! Of course! It all makes sense now!
Aloof
01-26-2007, 05:28 PM
The AU Lana was incredibly strange. I mean, who wants a girl who smiles creepily at you when you're about to get a drill through your head? Something is messed up there.
:eek:
LOL, I know, Athena, Stepford Pink Princess, whiny, Lana.
XD
Obviously, real life was more important than Lana, because if he chose Lana, he'd probably still be in the AU, or better yet, dead.
Heh.
RedPhoenix23
01-26-2007, 05:34 PM
Clark does! Clark does! Stepford Pink Princess is his dream girl! Clana's too.
At least if Clark died, they could hand the cape over to Chloe already, lol. She really is lightyears closer to being Superman then Clark is, lol.
Aloof
01-26-2007, 05:40 PM
I know.... Clark is billions of lightyears away.
XD
Too much pining. Nothing ever gets done.
o.o;
mobiusklein
01-26-2007, 05:47 PM
What next? I love you Lana despite you gave me the clap and you're now doing Lionel. AHAHAHAHAHA.
Aloof
01-26-2007, 05:50 PM
LMAO. Yeah, go Laionel(?)
XD
mobiusklein
01-26-2007, 05:55 PM
I love you Lana even though you kicked off my testicles with your Lana-fu and kryptonite!stilletos are now trying to make Ollie your love slave and made my dog into a pie. My lord, you can stick Clark with THAT but you can't tell me it's any healthier than Joker & Harley and at least Joker & Harley are fun and are textually freaky.
shirkie
01-26-2007, 05:55 PM
I'm looking back over the posts and we are definitely treading in "breaking-rule-#10" waters here, guys. I don't even know where to start editing. Be considerate to each other.
shirkie
Aloof
01-26-2007, 05:56 PM
I speak the truth, sorry if I've broken the rules, but I'm only saying what's on my mind.
They should, for the show "Smallville", I can't believe there are other ships, TW and KK are the lead roles, she is the lead female of the show, so why wouldn't she be in the main romance with the lead actor of the show. I don't even know why they put Lois on this particular show, I love her in the movies, but, for this show I could really care less about her or the future of "Superman", I just want to watch Clana. It is the 2 leads along with MR that make the show appealing, the rest are just supporting cast, not really needed on a regular basis.
vikingjedi
01-27-2007, 01:55 AM
Just for the record Im a huge fan of Lana and Chloe, they are both awesome
I can completely understand Clark still liking Lana (she is unbelievably hot) and it was Clark who ended the relationship even though he still liked her. Since then Lana's path has almost been a direct result of that decision. In a way he probably blames himself for Lex ending up with her
On the other side of that Clark and Lana do end up being best friends with her knowing his secret in the movies. So it only makes sense that he starts trying to protect her now that he sees what has happened. Even though they're not together anymore he will always care for her
This episode is Smallville in a nutshell. Clark has to choose between Lana and becoming Superman. He has realized he can't be with Lana but thats not going to change the way he feels
As for Chloe Im one of the people that believes she is actually the real Lois who ends up with Clark
So in a way Clark ends up with Lana AND Chloe :D
Dangerous George
01-31-2007, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by griffyn612
i'm hoping lex's last wife shows up to put a kink in the marriage plans.
wow, just like at the memorial for Lex? Now that would be fun to watch:lol:
lana&Clark4ever
02-01-2007, 12:34 AM
clana rules all??
heelll yeah it does.....in chemistry, hugging, kissing cheeks, kissing like when they eat hamburgers, and of course hottness!! :D
RedPhoenix23
02-01-2007, 05:37 AM
Originally posted by vikingjedi
On the other side of that Clark and Lana do end up being best friends with her knowing his secret in the movies.
Lana didn't know Clark's secret in the movies. :confused:
Originally posted by kh1
They should, for the show "Smallville", I can't believe there are other ships, TW and KK are the lead roles, she is the lead female of the show, so why wouldn't she be in the main romance with the lead actor of the show. I don't even know why they put Lois on this particular show, I love her in the movies, but, for this show I could really care less about her or the future of "Superman", I just want to watch Clana. It is the 2 leads along with MR that make the show appealing, the rest are just supporting cast, not really needed on a regular basis.
The two leads of the show are TW and MR. Smallville is about the rise of Superman and the fall of Lex Luthor. Everything else is secondary. Lois has been on the show since season four, she's more then earned her right to be there by now. Plus, you got to remember CLANA do not end up together. They are toxic for eachother. This episode shows that. To actually want them together after this crap episode and after seeing the trailer for Crimson, your clearly not caring what's best for the characters.
meteor_phreak
02-01-2007, 07:09 AM
chlark would allow for more character growth where clana doesn't. most of the people here aren't saying "any girl is bad for clark" which is what the argument "chloe is no better than lana" is fighting.
they're saying that lana is a little selfish, and would hold clark back. her specifically. all through the show we've seen chloe try to make him live up to potential. when he lost, then regained, his powers, who told him that he was meant for better and that 'normal' is overrated? when he lost his memories, who put herself at risk to teach him, protect him, and help him save the day? Who seems to relish the role of 'sidekick who might get left behind' simply because it allows her to have some role in his life?
Now who, when he died in 'hidden' said "i pushed you away because i knew this day was coming"?
for his growth to superman status, chloe would be happy to be along for the ride, and if they don't stay together and she's only a footnote in the future, that's so much better than what lana has been made out as.
and for the record, i didn't mind the Talon scene. it was the most tolerable Clana since season 1 or 2. it was really creepy that AU!Lana was what brought that out.
so with that, i stand by my page one reply...
Originally posted by meteor_phreak
pish posh
kickarse
02-01-2007, 09:51 AM
^^ A person doesn't have to be the love of your life in order to move you greater action...
While the Clana roller coaster is annoying, it's inevitable.
The only way CK would ever move on is if both Chloe AND Lana were to die.
meteor_phreak
02-01-2007, 02:16 PM
^^ don't get me wrongo. I wasn't saying that Chlark is required for him to move on, only that not every 'ship hurts him like clana does, and therefore clana should gooooo bye-bye.
also I would like to see chlark and i've never made a secret of that.
they don't both have to die. clark could settle into a friendship role with lana the way chloe has with clark.
Dangerous George
02-01-2007, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by meteor_phreak
^^ don't get me wrongo. I wasn't saying that Chlark is required for him to move on, only that not every 'ship hurts him like clana does, and therefore clana should gooooo bye-bye.
also I would like to see chlark and i've never made a secret of that.
they don't both have to die. clark could settle into a friendship role with lana the way chloe has with clark.
Ok, now, if Chloe and Lana started out on an even playing field, i.e. both know Clark's secrets and whatnot, one would be hard pressed to suggest that Lana could not provide the say girl Friday role that Chloe provides. It is unfair to draw such analysis regarding who would best help Clark in his development when only one has the "goods" as it were. In fact, if Clark was not so ga-ga over Lana she would not even stand a ghost of a chance with Clark given the circumstances that TPTB has laid down in this pathetic attempt to portray the life and times of young superman. It is so patently unfair, which by the way is why the show sucks of late. JMHO :D :p
peace
SmallvilleMan
02-01-2007, 02:47 PM
if Clark was not so ga-ga over Lana she would not even stand a ghost of a chance with Clark given the circumstances that TPTB has laid down in this pathetic attempt to portray the life and times of young superman. It is so patently unfair, which by the way is why the show sucks of late. JMHO
:lol: If he wasn't ga-ga over her, then she wouldnt stand a chance. Something just sounds off about that. Also, Clana in a relationship without secrets would allow Clark to move on better than anything.
dave73085
02-01-2007, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
:lol: If he wasn't ga-ga over her, then she wouldnt stand a chance. Something just sounds off about that. Also, Clana in a relationship without secrets would allow Clark to move on better than anything.
I don't feel that we've ever been shown a good justification for WHY Clark is so ga-ga over Lana, except the fact that "she hawt" and he's had this inaccurate image of her on a pedestal most of his life. Oh and that she will be loved and that everything she does is beautiful, everything she does is right.
Yeah, Lana is rather attractive, but so is Chloe (more so imo), and Chloe actually has other things going for her, like interests, a personality, ambition in life...
:p
Dangerous George
02-01-2007, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
:lol: If he wasn't ga-ga over her, then she wouldnt stand a chance. Something just sounds off about that. Also, Clana in a relationship without secrets would allow Clark to move on better than anything.
how so? If Clark did not love her so. She would not be on the radar per se and further did not know about his "secret" as is the current status, . . . she could not compete with Chloe being his girl Friday on those terms and conditions. Is a wrong assessment? Talking about fairness, level playing field and whatnot given the postings cited herein about Chloe being better than Lana under current terms and conditions.
The latter part of your statement would result in the end of the show as far as TPTB given their inability to show a loving juvenile relationship that has the potential of maturing into something really nice likened unto what Lana intimated to Clark on the back of the haytruck in the Nocturne episode with "Byron"?
go figure
Originally posted by dave73085
I don't feel that we've ever been shown a good justification for WHY Clark is so ga-ga over Lana, except the fact that "she hawt" and he's had this inaccurate image of her on a pedestal most of his life. Oh and that she will be loved and that everything she does is beautiful, everything she does is right.
Yeah, Lana is rather attractive, but so is Chloe (more so imo), and Chloe actually has other things going for her, like interests, a personality, ambition in life...
:p
Yeah, the lack of character development is a serious problem with this show. Along with lack of continuity, lack of originality. Need one say more? Can go on but you get the point, I'm sure. :p
shirkie
02-01-2007, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by dave73085
Oh and that she will be loved and that everything she does is beautiful, everything she does is right. ROFLMAO! You also forgot that she farts rainbows and sneezes butterflies.
shirkie
Dangerous George
02-01-2007, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by shirkie
ROFLMAO! You also forgot that she farts rainbows and sneezes butterflies.
shirkie
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: too funny :lol: :lol: :lol: you are just too much :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
SheaMan
04-22-2007, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Basically, Clark is in love with someone who does not exist - the dream Lana he almost gave his life for has never existed anywhere other than in Clark's feeble mind. The real person? He doesn't even know who the hell she really is. This is exactly why his epiphany at the end was such crap. All that experience (a phoney reality) made him do was wake up and think that he's madly in love with someone in the real world who, we know, doesn't actually exist. Awesome revelation Clark. [/B]
Actually when she said "I'll wait for you" I was reminded of 3rd (?) season when she said that she would wait till Clark was ready... I think that Pink Fairy Princess was there - once upon a time.
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