I dont know what id do without you...

[Ardiem3]

Clark said to Chloe "I dont know what id do without you..." but this is what Clark also told his dad before he ultimately died in "Reckoning." Could this possibly mean that Chloes days are numbered?

[darkraya]

chloe is not gonna leave the show. well at least not for a VERY long time. i hope that she sticks around long enough to see clark becoming superman.

[Ginx]

I hope not - but as soon as Clark said that I just thought.... I have a bad feeling about this........

[wolverine316]

Me thinks Chloe is about to take a dirt nap.

[Koma]

I don't like Chlark, but I think Chloe is a great part of the show. Too bad Pete left. It would probably be a great episode if there was a "What if Pete never left?" type story.

[God-Man]

Oh noes! I didn't think that could spell doom for Chloe. Oh boy...

[Clark Kent 86]

They got us ready by showing her die tonight and I loved it I can't wait till the real thing happens!

Chloe is on the way out!

[chole_fan]

Originally posted by Clark Kent 86
They got us ready by showing her die tonight and I loved it I can't wait till the real thing happens!

Chloe is on the way out!

Geez, don't hold back now, tell us what you really think:p

I love Chloe and really don't want to see her go. This hadn't even crossed my mind until I read this theory and now I am all worried:(

[AndiGirl]

No, I think Clark was just upset Chloe was shot in the alternate place. He didn't tell her she died, but for awhile he got to see how much it tore him up to not have her around. Thats all

[Exodus2000]

You know.....I think they will kill her off....but not this season....perhaps a mid-season sweeps month episode.....to further his super-ness....when he decides to accept his fate, but fails to save her, ultimately pushing even farther toward becoming superman

[xrayvision]

I don't know about this. If they keep having him rely on her, then my answer to his question of what is he going to do without her is become Superman. But I don't want another character to die for that, since JK already paid that price. If they kill her, I'm hoping it's because of Lex's knowledge of her as a threat as she was to Lionel and not taking chances and letting her do the same to him. That would seem most plausible and natural.

[meggy]

noooooooo...no chloe death talk!!!..but really, they put those lines in there to get the fans speculating..just like the line in Splinter..."I'd die before I ever betray you..."

so it could all be for dramatic effect...we wont know till the end will we???

[Runestone]

Commentary with Al and Miles at the end of "Splinter" on the DVDs:

"...And here at the end of this one (Chloe) says: 'I'd die for you""

...

"And actually, a lot of the fans thought that in the 100th episode she was going to die, and they were outraged. We didn't even think about killing Chloe. It's like, how can you kill Chloe, come on... She's so good."

Maybe we're safe? At least last year they weren't considering killing her...

[cloisinmyheart]

no way is chloe leaving :(

[alienkinfolk]

If Clark keeps having these cute-sy fireside chats moments with Chloe it won't be long before he leans over and kisses her.
Since that's not going to happen...I think Chloe's life may be in jeopardy unless she moves out of Smallville.

[margroks]

No.

[mcgairman]

Originally posted by chole_fan
Geez, don't hold back now, tell us what you really think:p

I love Chloe and really don't want to see her go. This hadn't even crossed my mind until I read this theory and now I am all worried:(

:confused: Me too. I hope TPTB are not THAT STUPID!!!


MCGJr

[LanaandPete]

Originally posted by Runestone
Commentary with Al and Miles at the end of "Splinter" on the DVDs:

"...And here at the end of this one (Chloe) says: 'I'd die for you""

...

"And actually, a lot of the fans thought that in the 100th episode she was going to die, and they were outraged. We didn't even think about killing Chloe. It's like, how can you kill Chloe, come on... She's so good."

Maybe we're safe? At least last year they weren't considering killing her...

Or maybe they'll now finally kill her off since fans were outraged that she didn't die.

[shirkie]

Chloe is by far one of the most popular characters on "Smallville." Heck, "Ask Ausellio" gets more questions about her than any other character. Killing her off (at this point, anyway) would be an incredibly foolish move by TPTB. Plus, considering DC has bought the rights to her character, we don't know what place she'll take in the future Superman mythos. There's plenty of room for our favorite spunky sleuth in the mythos.

However, if Chloe *does* "need" to die, I hope they do it in a classy way, e.g. while protecting Clark's secret or dying in his arms a la Mayson Drake in "Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman." That death scene was spectacular.
shirkie

[LanaandPete]

I am probably going to get shot for this but Chloe is overrated. Chloe's been forced into storylines just as much as Lana maybe a little less, but you don't hear anything but praise for Chloe

Really killing her off would be the best thing. She may have fans but there's no way to tell if she's the most popular as internet fans dont make up that large of percentage. But if we went by that, Johnathan and Lionel are the most popular and they killed Johnathan off.

But like I was saying killing off would be the best thing. Clark really has been playing second fiddle to Chloe to years. Clark really can't progress until after Chloe is gone. Clark isn't even doing anything with journalism and yet he's supposed to the future reporter. However Chloe is occupying his role. Clark can't move past his BDA thing unless Chloe is out of the picture, so Clark can solve more things on his own.

[Rhoda123]

Originally posted by chole_fan
Geez, don't hold back now, tell us what you really think:p

I love Chloe and really don't want to see her go. This hadn't even crossed my mind until I read this theory and now I am all worried:(

I'm literally freaking out here.. TPTB better not have Chloe died.. seeing it in the AU was enough to drive ME crazy... I hope they have better sense than this..

Originally posted by LanaandPete
I am probably going to get shot for this but Chloe is overrated. Chloe's been forced into storylines just as much as Lana maybe a little less, but you don't hear anything but praise for Chloe

Really killing her off would be the best thing. She may have fans but there's no way to tell if she's the most popular as internet fans dont make up that large of percentage. But if we went by that, Johnathan and Lionel are the most popular and they killed Johnathan off.

But like I was saying killing off would be the best thing. Clark really has been playing second fiddle to Chloe to years. Clark really can't progress until after Chloe is gone. Clark isn't even doing anything with journalism and yet he's supposed to the future reporter. However Chloe is occupying his role. Clark can't move past his BDA thing unless Chloe is out of the picture, so Clark can solve more things on his own.

I COMPLETELY disagree...Clark doesn't play second fiddle to Chloe.. Chloe gives him the strength to move forward and helps him when he is lost.. she should not die..

Originally posted by shirkie
Chloe is by far one of the most popular characters on "Smallville." Heck, "Ask Ausellio" gets more questions about her than any other character. Killing her off (at this point, anyway) would be an incredibly foolish move by TPTB. Plus, considering DC has bought the rights to her character, we don't know what place she'll take in the future Superman mythos. There's plenty of room for our favorite spunky sleuth in the mythos.

However, if Chloe *does* "need" to die, I hope they do it in a classy way, e.g. while protecting Clark's secret or dying in his arms a la Mayson Drake in "Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman." That death scene was spectacular.
shirkie

If she dies, I'll stop watching Smallville for real.. there is no need for it.. and that is how I feel. So there.

[quiet_fractures]

Well if Chloe dies I see a lot of pissed off fans so no she's not going to die.

[LanaandPete]

Originally posted by Rhoda123


I COMPLETELY disagree...Clark doesn't play second fiddle to Chloe.. Chloe gives him the strength to move forward and helps him when he is lost.. she should not die..

Actually no she's doesn't. Martha does that. When Clark is lost, Martha helps Clark move forward. Chloe solves all Clark's mysteries for him and all Clark is just the muscle. Superman needs to be the brain and the brawn. With Chloe around he is just the brawn.

Again if this wasn't Chloe, you'd probably agree as the same thing happened with Oliver. People saw that Oliver was hindering Clark's development and wanted him gone.

Originally posted by Rhoda123


If she dies, I'll stop watching Smallville for real.. there is no need for it.. and that is how I feel. So there.

There was a SV before Chloe and there will be a SV after Chloe. The show's about Clark, so sorry that I want him to take back his show, as earlier in the season he was in the back burner.

There were pissed fans when John died as well, and he had a larger fanbase than Chloe.

[Lostfan588]

Yeah...bc Chloe has no place to go but "up up and away!" Superman catchphrase as she speaks from the future!!....so im not worried about whatll happen one bit.

[Rhoda123]

Originally posted by LanaandPete
Actually no she's doesn't. Martha does that. When Clark is lost, Martha helps Clark move forward. Chloe solves all Clark's mysteries for him and all Clark is just the muscle. Superman needs to be the brain and the brawn. With Chloe around he is just the brawn.

Again if this wasn't Chloe, you'd probably agree as the same thing happened with Oliver. People saw that Oliver was hindering Clark's development and wanted him gone.



There was a SV before Chloe and there will be a SV after Chloe. The show's about Clark, so sorry that I want him to take back his show, as earlier in the season he was in the back burner.

There were pissed fans when John died as well, and he had a larger fanbase than Chloe.

Again, I disagree.. Chloe has been someone who has always been there for Clark.. ALWAYS.. Why does he continue going to her? Because he trusts her. Why should she have to die? It doesn't make sense.. there is no need for it. Jonathan died because he actually dies in the movies and comics. TPTB can choose Chloe's destiny.. she isn't in the Superman myths yet.. they would be foolish to ever take a character as awesome as Chloe and kill her off..

[chlarkfan333]

Lol, the 'Is Chloe going to die' spec just doesn't die! Like Clana. :p

I have no fear at all that Chloe will die. I don't think even AlMiles are that moronic to kill the only important character they can take credit for as a contribution to the Superman mythos. Now that DC owns the character, it will be even more difficult to kill her off and for the record, killing her off to make Clark look good is just lazy writing.

[LanaandPete]

Originally posted by Rhoda123
Again, I disagree.. Chloe has been someone who has always been there for Clark.. ALWAYS.. Why does he continue going to her? Because he trusts her. Why should she have to die? It doesn't make sense.. there is no need for it. Jonathan died because he actually dies in the movies and comics. TPTB can choose Chloe's destiny.. she isn't in the Superman myths yet.. they would be foolish to ever take a character as awesome as Chloe and kill her off..

Johnathan lives in the comics today and was alive in the Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman. You still haven't explained why it's so foolish or how awesome Chloe is as she's pretty much the same as Lana, overused and forced in situations she doesn't belong.

Originally posted by chlarkfan333

I don't think even AlMiles are that moronic to kill the only important character they can take credit for as a contribution to the Superman mythos.

That's the only reason I could see them never killing Chloe off. It's their creation that they added to the mythos. This doesn't mean I don't think she should die but saying because she has a large fanbase is not a good reason to keep her on the show.

[Rhoda123]

Originally posted by LanaandPete
Johnathan lives in the comics today and was alive in the Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman. You still haven't explained why it's so foolish or how awesome Chloe is as she's pretty much the same as Lana, overused and forced in situations she doesn't belong.

Its foolish to take a character that has been such an important part of Clark's like (like she has) and kill her off. She is his best friend, the only believer in him and his powers, someone who would die for him but that doesn't mean she should die for him.. and I guess Chloe being awesome is a personal opinion that I share with many others.. she is a loyal friend, trusted confidante, very intelligent, and so not whiney like Lana. Comparing her to Lana is like comparing a Mercedes to a Pinto..

[LanaandPete]

Originally posted by Rhoda123
Its foolish to take a character that has been such an important part of Clark's like (like she has) and kill her off. She is his best friend, the only believer in him and his powers, someone who would die for him but that doesn't mean she should die for him.. and I guess Chloe being awesome is a personal opinion that I share with many others.. she is a loyal friend, trusted confidante, very intelligent, and so not whiney like Lana. Comparing her to Lana is like comparing a Mercedes to a Pinto..

Johnathan was also important and they didn't have to kill him off.

Best friend, the only believer in him and his powers, someone who would die for him. Actually Pete is his best friend, remember him, clark's only friend since childhood.

Chloe was on the verge of whiney with the same secret and lies drama until she learned the secret. So maybe when Lana learns, we can then compare them.

[shirkie]

They killed Jonathan off because they were going along with what was done in the Superman movie. I don't think it had anything to do with Jonathan's fanbase.

And it's impossible to say "there was a 'Smallville' before Chloe and there will be a 'Smallville' after Chloe" because Chloe has been on "Smallville" since "Pilot." She has *always* been there. She didn't just magically drop out of the sky in Season 3 or something. DC is adding Chloe to the mythos and keeping fans happy.
shirkie

[LanaandPete]

Originally posted by shirkie
They killed Jonathan off because they were going along with what was done in the Superman movie. I don't think it had anything to do with Jonathan's fanbase.

And it's impossible to say "there was a 'Smallville' before Chloe and there will be a 'Smallville' after Chloe" because Chloe has been on "Smallville" since "Pilot." She has *always* been there. She didn't just magically drop out of the sky in Season 3 or something. DC is adding Chloe to the mythos and keeping fans happy.
shirkie

I never said killing him off had anything to do with his fanbase. I said he was more popular than Chloe and they still killed him, showing that fanbase doesn't matter.

What I meant by that "impossible" statement was early in season 1, Chloe wasn't such an *integral* part of the show yet and it still worked then

I'm just going to agree to disagree with you guys since this argument is getting nowhere and I don't want it to be heated.

[Ania]

No.

1. That would be continuity, and this show ran out of continuity way before Kents ran out of red trucks.

2. Chloe is AlMiles' best lovechild and they know that.

3. If they ever wanted, they'd kill her when Lois came to Smallville. That'd spare them work with one more main character, give Lois better start and finish Chloe-is-Lois debates forever. But they didn't.

Or maybe they'll now finally kill her off since fans were outraged that she didn't die.As far as I know the fans were outraged Lana didn't die instead of Jonathan. Lana is a lot less popular than Chloe anyway.

I am probably going to get shot for this but Chloe is overrated. Chloe's been forced into storylines just as much as Lana maybe a little less, but you don't hear anything but praise for ChloeAt least Chloe is a character, Lana is just a trophy guys pass around. She has her role and reason to be in every episode. Lana changes with every guy she's currently with.

She may have fans but there's no way to tell if she's the most popular as internet fans dont make up that large of percentage.Internet fans are a sample of all fans. Percentage of Chloe-lovers and Lana-haters should be more or less the same in all groups.

But if we went by that, Johnathan and Lionel are the most popular and they killed Johnathan off.Because Jonathan dies in movie canon and anyway, they waited with killing him more than they wanted. Loinel and Chloe are free from destiny. AlMiles can do whatever they want with them.

But like I was saying killing off would be the best thing. Clark really has been playing second fiddle to Chloe to years. Clark really can't progress until after Chloe is gone. Clark isn't even doing anything with journalism and yet he's supposed to the future reporter. However Chloe is occupying his role. Clark can't move past his BDA thing unless Chloe is out of the picture, so Clark can solve more things on his own.I agree. Clark should a) start to think of his own and b) stop to think about Lana.
Actually, I think that Lana leaving the show would progress Clark more than Chloe leaving.

[jimmyolsenblues]

i am getting tired of seeing chloe get 2nd place.
get this girl a superman. even if it isn't clark.
make her happy with jimmy cause i can't take her pain when clark admitted he still loves lana. Yuck!!!!

[LanaandPete]

The quote about outraged: If you look the guy I quoted said fans were outraged Chloe didn't die.

[Rhoda123]

Originally posted by LanaandPete
The quote about outraged: If you look the guy I quoted said fans were outraged Chloe didn't die.

Yep well that is HIS opinion.. and he is entitled to it.. I still disagree though..

I won't get heated.. I know what and who I like and that is that.. nothing you say will change my mind so..

[LanaandPete]

Originally posted by Rhoda123
Yep well that is HIS opinion.. and he is entitled to it.. I still disagree though..

I won't get heated.. I know what and who I like and that is that.. nothing you say will change my mind so..

Umm the guy I quoted said Al Gough and Miles said that fans were outraged in the season 5 commentaries, again i agree to disagree so lets move on from this.

[Rhoda123]

Originally posted by LanaandPete
Umm the guy I quoted said Al Gough and Miles said that fans were outraged in the season 5 commentaries, again i agree to disagree so lets move on from this.

Fine by me.. :)

[ClLaLeChFAN01]

I loved that line from Clark, it melt my heart

[Runestone]

Originally posted by LanaandPete
Umm the guy I quoted said Al Gough and Miles said that fans were outraged in the season 5 commentaries, again i agree to disagree so lets move on from this.

Actually that quote said that fans were outraged BECAUSE they thought Chloe was going to die, and they didn't want her to... Just to clarify.

[Rhoda123]

Originally posted by Runestone
Actually that quote said that fans were outraged BECAUSE they thought Chloe was going to die, and they didn't want her to... Just to clarify.

Ha, I figured it was misconstrued.. :) I can't see people being mad that she didn't die. That totally doesn't make any sense to me. :) Thanks for clarifying that.

[Kal EL2380]

Chloe isnt dieing this season, Lionel probably will....

[DorkMatter]

Originally posted by Ardiem3
Clark said to Chloe "I dont know what id do without you..."

Oh, that's easy--I think that wearing a straightjacket and slumping to the floor hopelessly pretty much sums up what he'd do. Clark must have forgotten that part. I'll add that he'd probably drool and say "duh" a lot, too. :)

Originally posted by Ardiem3
but this is what Clark also told his dad before he ultimately died in "Reckoning." Could this possibly mean that Chloes days are numbered?

My take: no blatantly ominous music associated with the relevant statement, no problem. Chloe is safe for the time being.

[wolverine316]

Adios Chloe. Don't let the door hit you on the ass.

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by wolverine316
Adios Chloe. Don't let the door hit you on the ass.

Haha, that was a little harsh IMO but she is going to go somewhere before the series finale, whenever that may be. Beisdes helping Clark out (which he needs to do on his own, be his own reporter), she serves no other purpose. Have her move to Gotham or have her bite the dust... 2 options only IMO.

[GabbieW]

Hell no! Chloe is not gonna die...so i'm sorry but there's no adios

[ClLaLeChFAN01]

i think if they would kill chole off i may no watch it anymore...she's awesome!

[Ardiem3]

Originally posted by ClLaLeChFAN01
i think if they would kill chole off i may no watch it anymore...she's awesome!

That seems a little bit drastic. Chloes great and all, but this is the story about Clark Kent becoming Superman, not the story about Chloe and Lana, but Lana cant die so Chloe isnt the whole show. If you stop watching the show because they decided not to have Chloe on it anymore, id have to ask how much you like "Smallville" in the first place. I want to see more destiny for Clark and less Lana, Chloe and all these traingle/friendshipy thingies that pull Clark away from his true calling. His destiny is far greater than Chloe and Lana...

[meggy]

this show is about CK becoming Supes....but i will never agree that Chloe has to die for him to start moving towards his destiny...all the writers need to do is start writing scripts that make him move towards it...but i always say..they are trying to get a season 7 from us...so they will drag it along as much as possible...

NO ONE needs to die for CK to get into his destiny..that is just unnecessary drama. Chloe doesnt keep him from journalism...all he needs to do is go back to school when it opens, amjor in journalism, and stop his excuse that the farm needs him to run it!..he can do all the chores in a few minutes!!!!

but i bet you..this season, he will get rid of the zoners/33.1 problems...and that threat will be done. Next season, MetU will reopen, and we will see clark more interested in journalism..maybe even back in school. I doubt he is going to get into the DP in SV at all.

[XxKidMenuxX]

just cos he said it does not mean Chloe is now jinxed into death.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by LanaandPete
That's the only reason I could see them never killing Chloe off. It's their creation that they added to the mythos. This doesn't mean I don't think she should die but saying because she has a large fanbase is not a good reason to keep her on the show.

I wouldn't really call it entirely their creation. She was their Lois on the show (character who is into journalism) in the early seasons. So she is patterned after the comics Lois. I don't call that entirely original. Since the Lois on this show has yet to write something big enough to get recognized as a reporter, I'm guessing it will be a story that Chloe dies for & Lois will live through and publish that gets her the real interest in journalism & the DP job. Right now, even though she writes articles, I wouldn't call her entirely interested in journalism.

[Trunkz]

Originally posted by xrayvision
I wouldn't really call it entirely their creation. She was their Lois on the show (character who is into journalism) in the early seasons. So she is patterned after the comics Lois. I don't call that entirely original. Since the Lois on this show has yet to write something big enough to get recognized as a reporter, I'm guessing it will be a story that Chloe dies for & Lois will live through and publish that gets her the real interest in journalism & the DP job. Right now, even though she writes articles, I wouldn't call her entirely interested in journalism.

chloe is alot smarter than lois in IMO..even when lois becomes the full time reporter we've grown to know and love. since when have you ever saw something like lois hacking computers among other things.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by Trunkz
chloe is alot smarter than lois in IMO..even when lois becomes the full time reporter we've grown to know and love. since when have you ever saw something like lois hacking computers among other things.

I agree that Chloe is smarter, but not because of some skills that are really non-existent if you consider her history. It's because Lois is too impulsive and gets herself in trouble too much. As far as I know, Chloe never learned to hack computers and that it was ridiculous for them to show her doing that. It is a plot device that whenever they have a problem that they don't want to spend time resolving, they just pull the hacker Chloe card. It's as ridoculous as Lana being a martial arts expert after only 1 episode of training. And it makes Clark look bad. They should really go back to their original intent for Chloe as Clark's friend and research partner, but also a confidant (since when the show started she didn't know his secret) who keeps his secrets and helps him deal with the more human aspects of his life. I thought they did a great job writing her in the first 4 seasons. Starting in Arrival at the very end of the hospital scene when she told him to go to Smallville, she became Clark's brain, and that's what I didn't like. That's when the BDA was born. Then in Mortal, she started using her laptop to break into Luthorcorp (like that could happen) and started exhibiting new skills that came out of nowhere. I could understand General Lane teaching Chloe how to use that device in Jinx, but the rest of the skills (hacking, and doing all those things she did in Mercy) had no development. I would have no problem accepting those skills had any interest & development in the fields that are needed to have those skills (computer/electrical engineering & computer programming) been shown. I'm not saying any more on this since I said enough in the Justice thread.

The problem I think is that they rushed to bring Lois in the show and didn't think of what they would do with her. So all of a sudden, there was a character who was already a reporter that seemed like she would be the future Lois and one that's supposed to be a great reporter in the future, but had shown no interest until about 2 years later (and for the dumbest reason-- a barn door). If they really wanted to introduce Lois, then I think having Chloe abandon reporting/journalism and instead start taking technology/computer training on the side throughout seasons 4 & 5 would have been a better idea to actually develop her into a hacker who would be Clark's contact in the government when he needed to do heroics on a much larger scale. It's a shame they didn't take that route. As much as I like Lois now, I still think they could have done without her. Having Chloe become Lois was what I originally thought may happen, but I know this won't happen since they are starting to develop Lois as the classic Lois (Hydro was a great example).

Instead, it seems to me that Chloe will die eventually because of how much she knows. Lex isn't stupid, and once Lana is no longer with him, I can't see including him in interactions with other characters of the show without involving Chloe and having Lex set his sights on her. He knows the role she played in bringing down Lionel, and won't take that same risk. If they instead did develop Chloe into a hacker and she didn't learn so many secrets, then maybe they wouldn't do this. But that is my educated guess as to the direction of Chloe's character. Her death would also interest Clark to investigate what happened and get him into investigative reporting and understand its importance. Since he does that as part of his heroics anyway, the rest of the journey towards becoming a journalist should come naturally once the importance is really shown to him. And I think Chloe dying and having Clark get into journalism is a very noble way to go.

And I think the reason that Lois will live (unlike Chloe) is not because she is smarter, but because once Chloe dies, Clark will keep a close eye on Lois to protect her from her impulsiveness in getting into trouble.

[Billy Jor-El]

I can't believe Chloe would be offed. TPTB (no matter how much of BDAs THEY are) take note of this forum. It was posted here long ago that Clark is vulnerable to kryptonite and Lana (Lanite), and then we hear Chloe utter those same sentiments. Yes, it is pretty obvious, but I like to think TPTB do respond to the fans; and looking at the threads on the forum, the largest always seem to be about Chloe. She is truly the Superperson of the show, and they (hopefully) know it.

[RedKRules]

he said .....I don´t know I´d do without you ..................but did not even share a tear when she was shot well I got it ......he still loves Lana .....I almost forgot to mention that ........alright I will sleep on it, well i don´t think Chloe will be leaving any soon .....