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chlarkfan333
01-25-2007, 12:49 PM
We know there will be some Chlark at least. Talk about it here!:D :D :D
MidgardDragon
01-25-2007, 12:56 PM
Chloe and the scene that we all know is coming...so sad. :(
*SLIGHT SPOILERS*
Glad this isn't for keeps.
chlarkfan333
01-25-2007, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Chloe and the scene that we all know is coming...so sad. :(
*SLIGHT SPOILERS*
Glad this isn't for keeps.
I agree. I like having Chloe around even if there's never any Chlark. Too fond of her character and watching her die, even in the AU will be tough.
CallMeClark
01-25-2007, 01:10 PM
I am still holding out for the Labyrinth kiss to be Chlark.
chlarkfan333
01-25-2007, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by CallMeClark
I am still holding out for the Labyrinth kiss to be Chlark.
You are far more optimistic than I.:D
Krypton935
01-25-2007, 02:40 PM
As much as I would love a Chlark kiss, the chances of that are about .000001% which really sucks.
When I see the scence with chloe and the gun I think I shall crawl under the couch and die. No not really but it will be sad. I don't think they could ever really get rid of Chloe for real because she adds too much to the show. Yup Chloe rocks. LONG LIVE THE CHLARK!!
chlarkfan333
01-25-2007, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Krypton935
When I see the scence with chloe and the gun I think I shall crawl under the couch and die.
Just be sure to come back to life, crawl back out from under the couch and watch the Chlark hug (and Shelby of course :D) at the end of the episode! :D :D
thehenry89
01-25-2007, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by chlarkfan333
Just be sure to come back to life, crawl back out from under the couch and watch the Chlark hug (and Shelby of course :D) at the end of the episode! :D :D
sadly shelby resurgance is the part i'm looking forward too the most :lol: J/K i can't wait for MM to finally have a speaking part in an ep.
Raging Clue
01-25-2007, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by CallMeClark
I am still holding out for the Labyrinth kiss to be Chlark.
Me too, but I'm still 50/50 on this one.
kkjdt
01-25-2007, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by CallMeClark
I am still holding out for the Labyrinth kiss to be Chlark.
hopeful but doubtful
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chlarkfan333
01-25-2007, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by kkjdt
hopeful but doubtful
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My sentiments exactly, except make that very doubtful.:(
CallMeClark
01-25-2007, 05:52 PM
I can just see Clark rushing to Chloe after he comes out of the AU and kissing her like "You're alive! I thought you were dead!" *lol*
lillie_poo_pod
01-25-2007, 05:54 PM
I can see Clark about to kiss Chloe and out pops Shelby!
CallMeClark
01-25-2007, 05:55 PM
I knew that dog should have bit it in "Commencement!" ;)
Paula
01-25-2007, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by CallMeClark
I can just see Clark rushing to Chloe after he comes out of the AU and kissing her like "You're alive! I thought you were dead!" *lol*
lol.i cn totally see that happening:)
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 06:14 PM
CHLARKKKKKKKKK! This episode's gonna have lotta Chlark :lol: . I wonder if the Clana scene (where Clark looks completly sick and wiped out) is before or after Chloe's death, bc Clark looks completly sane in the DC with Chloe til she dies, and then after that that an insane smile crosses his face....hmmmm.
heavens_cry
01-25-2007, 07:21 PM
Oh I really cant wait to see this ep and all the Chlark in it..
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 07:28 PM
Haha Chloe to the rescue! shes not even acting insane AND shes still a reporter!? AWESOME!
in the dream, she is insane. She thinks she's a reporter when she is really just another patient.
jimmyolsenblues
01-25-2007, 07:29 PM
so in this dream reality.
chloe is an enabler to clark's disease.
Good writing.
"Since your super speed is out, take my yaris."
Love that chloe.
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 07:41 PM
I think the talon scene was intersting when he had to choose btw Lana or Chloe....he chose to go after Chloe. Cool. Im sad shes dead already. Clana kiss :mad: ? :(
Ayanne
01-25-2007, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by Maryliz48
I think the talon scene was intersting when he had to choose btw Lana or Chloe....he chose to go after Chloe. Cool. Im sad shes dead already. Clana kiss :mad: ? :(
Chloe is already dead halfway into the episode?
MsSullivan
01-25-2007, 07:46 PM
I don't think we'll get a chlark kiss :(
Ayanne
01-25-2007, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by MsSullivan
I don't think we'll get a chlark kiss :(
:\ :\ :\ This will be very disappointing if Clark doesn't examine his true feelings about Chloe, or kiss her (even on the cheek) after returning to reality.
WriteAngel1
01-25-2007, 07:50 PM
At this point they're only friends and I think a bone crushing hug means more than a kiss on a cheek when your best friend was killed in front of you (even if it was in your mind)
Though I was hoping against hope for a chlark kiss in the alternate reality. :mad:
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 07:52 PM
pshhhhh that was sum kiss...not even on lips...not even spoiler worthy! :mad:
shy175223
01-25-2007, 07:54 PM
well, at least he gave her a bonecrushing hug, that's something. He seemed REALLY glad to see her!!
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 08:01 PM
Holy crap!!!!!! Pulitzer prize winner? Thats ILL! HA!
OH and Lana wore the same clothes as Mrs. Luthor in Clarks dream!
shirkie
01-25-2007, 08:01 PM
THAT LAST SCENE WITH THEM WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CUTE. I am totally dying with Chlarky goodness!
shirkie
Krypto/DQ/
01-25-2007, 08:03 PM
THe last Chlark scene was WOW. Chlark is on the way baby!
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
THe last Chlark scene was WOW. Chlark is on the way baby!
Not only THAT! Chlois! "Pulitzer Prize Winner"! Thats ILL!
Rachel B
01-25-2007, 08:06 PM
I was kinda hoping for more (a kiss honestly) but I guess I can takr the bread crumbs that seemed to be thrown at us. They were cute at the end, and you can soooo tell that Chloe still has feelings for Clark!
myankskent
01-25-2007, 08:07 PM
Nice Chlark moment at the end, but I'm sorry, I don't see a setup for romantic Chlark in this episode as some were expecting. The ending made it pretty clear where this season is going, right back to the clexana love triangle.
Runestone
01-25-2007, 08:09 PM
That last scene with Chlark was great... but the fact that Clark said he still loved Lana ruined it.
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Runestone
That last scene with Chlark was great... but the fact that Clark said he still loved Lana ruined it.
Yeah that part sux bit it doesnt matter if u listened to Chloe asking Clark what she was in his dream.....it was the exact description of ILL and Lois Lane is a Pulitzer Prize winner! Chlois is coming!
cotton candy girl
01-25-2007, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Nice Chlark moment at the end, but I'm sorry, I don't see a setup for romantic Chlark in this episode as some were expecting. The ending made it pretty clear where this season is going, right back to the clexana love triangle.
Thanks. I was thinking Chlark was being set up, but you made me feel a little better, not that the triangle is good for the show or anything.
aqgalaxy
01-25-2007, 08:12 PM
And the BDA is totally going to crush her next week... wow she really does mean that much to him huh?
kefka02
01-25-2007, 08:14 PM
He might crush her next week... but at least we got some GREAT Chlark THIS week. TPTB just love to tease us... they know tons of people want to see Chloe and Clark together. ARG, why do they keep teasing us!
Krypto/DQ/
01-25-2007, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Thanks. I was thinking Chlark was being set up, but you made me feel a little better, not that the triangle is good for the show or anything.
Clexana will always be there. But IMO I saw a Chlark setup here.
Ayanne
01-25-2007, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Maryliz48
Not only THAT! Chlois! "Pulitzer Prize Winner"! Thats ILL!
Can someone recap for me?
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
Clexana will always be there. But IMO I saw a Chlark setup here.
AND CHLOIS LOTS OF IT :eek:
Ayanne
01-25-2007, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Maryliz48
AND CHLOIS LOTS OF IT :eek:
:D :D :D Yay!!!!
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Ayanne
Can someone recap for me?
Ahhh I cant remember exactly all that was said but she asked Clark who she was in his dream: she said something about big time reporter I think, and then " a Pulitzer Prize Winner?" THAT is ILL....I wish I could remember exactly what was said but that part def stuck out :eek:
chloe asking about being a pulitzer prize winner has nothing to with being lois. She wasn't even a reporter in the dream. She was just a patient and clark didn't want to upset chloe by telling her she was a patient so he said "something like that". Plus, Chloe can be a Pulitzer Prize winner without being Lois Lane, IMO. I hate the chlois theory. Next week should be good for all clois fans! Can't wait.
cotton candy girl
01-25-2007, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
Clexana will always be there. But IMO I saw a Chlark setup here.
I refuse to see it. I'd rather close my eyes. :\
Ayanne
01-25-2007, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Maryliz48
Ahhh I cant remember exactly all that was said but she asked Clark who she was in his dream: she said something about big time reporter I think, and then " a Pulitzer Prize Winner?" THAT is ILL....I wish I could remember exactly what was said but that part def stuck out :eek:
Thank you. :D So he was happy to see her alive at the end?
myankskent
01-25-2007, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Thanks. I was thinking Chlark was being set up, but you made me feel a little better, not that the triangle is good for the show or anything.
Chlark had a nice friendship scene where Clark told Chloe that she really means a lot to him, which certainly makes sense since they are best friends, but Lana is still the girl that he wants to be with. That's the way that I saw it.
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by k18
chloe asking about being a pulitzer prize winner has nothing to with being lois. She wasn't even a reporter in the dream. She was just a patient and clark didn't want to upset chloe by telling her she was a patient so he said "something like that". Plus, Chloe can be a Pulitzer Prize winner without being Lois Lane, IMO. I hate the chlois theory. Next week should be good for all clois fans! Can't wait.
Lois Lane IS a Pulitzer Prize winner. Chloe in Clarks dream was SAID to have been a mental patient JUST like CLark (when based on RW they are the only 2 sane ppl in there) Chloe was talking RW stuff in the dream, she in the dream claimed to be a reporter about to get a BIG story, and the wall off weird became the ROOm of Weird.
Ayanne
01-25-2007, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by Maryliz48
Lois Lane IS a Pulitzer Prize winner. Chloe in Clarks dream was SAID to have been a mental patient JUST like CLark (when based on RW they are the only 2 sane ppl in there) Chloe was talking RW stuff in the dream, she in the dream claimed to be a reporter about to get a BIG story, and the wall off weird became the ROOm of Weird.
That's a darn big anvil of Chlois! Pulitzer Prize winner Chloe!!
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by Ayanne
Thank you. :D So he was happy to see her alive at the end?
Yeah they had a great talk, but Clark says he still loves Lana :rolleyes: ...but thats ok bc this episode made chlois extremly obvious with that final talk they had about "who was chloe" and then in the talon scene in the dream, Clark had to choose btw Lana or Chloe...Chloe started running off and mentioning how Lana would always work on Clark....but Clark chose to go after Chloe. :eek:
Holy crap! Chloe asked Clark if she was
future editor of the DP (ILL's job once Perry leaves)!!!!!
or
a Pulitzer winner (ILL!!!!!!!!!!!)
Ok but when was it said that she (Chloe) was a Pulitzer Prize winner? They never mentioned that she was. She just asked if she was, that's it. Plus, don't you think that Chloe is important enough to be an individual character on her own? I don't think they have to resort to Chloe becoming Lois. That would only cheapen both Lois and Chloe.
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by k18
Ok but when was it said that she (Chloe) was a Pulitzer Prize winner? They never mentioned that she was. She just asked if she was, that's it. Plus, don't you think that Chloe is important enough to be an individual character on her own? I don't think they have to resort to Chloe becoming Lois. That would only cheapen both Lois and Chloe.
She NOT ONLY SAID PUlitzer Prize Winner she also said she was
future editor of the DP which is ILL's job once Perry White leaves)!!!!! OMG :rotfl:
cotton candy girl
01-25-2007, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by k18
Ok but when was it said that she (Chloe) was a Pulitzer Prize winner? They never mentioned that she was. She just asked if she was, that's it. Plus, don't you think that Chloe is important enough to be an individual character on her own? I don't think they have to resort to Chloe becoming Lois. That would only cheapen both Lois and Chloe.
I agree. Why does Chloe have to be someone else? Isn't Chloe a valuable enough character on her own?
Ayanne
01-25-2007, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by Maryliz48
Yeah they had a great talk, but Clark says he still loves Lana :rolleyes: ...but thats ok bc this episode made chlois extremly obvious with that final talk they had about "who was chloe" and then in the talon scene in the dream, Clark had to choose btw Lana or Chloe...Chloe started running off and mentioning how Lana would always work on Clark....but Clark chose to go after Chloe. :eek:
Holy crap! Chloe asked Clark if she was
future editor of the DP (ILL's job once Perry leaves)!!!!!
or
a Pulitzer winner (ILL!!!!!!!!!!!)
Thanks for the recap. ITA, that's huge foreshadowing of Chloe as ILL & her future!!
As for Lana, he said he still "loved her" or was "in love" with her? there is a difference.
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 08:31 PM
Im sorry Im j quoting the episode. Its not my opinion. She described herself EXACTLY as ILL to Clark :eek:
Originally posted by Ayanne
Thanks for the recap. ITA, that's huge foreshadowing of Chloe as ILL & her future!!
As for Lana, he said he still "loved her" or was "in love" with her? there is a difference.
he said he still loves her ..... but after the dialog in the dream it makes it obvious he's realizing they cant ever be together no matter what he wouldve wanted. The things Lana says to him are showing it. But what does that matter because Chloe IS ILL! This episode pretty much proved it :rolleyes: .
there is still no concrete evidence of chlois. Both Chloe and Lois could win the Pulitzer Prize and both could be future co-editor of DP in Smallville world. There IS room in the world for both of them.
Ayanne
01-25-2007, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Maryliz48
Im sorry Im j quoting the episode. Its not my opinion. She described herself EXACTLY as ILL to Clark :eek:
Actually the WRITERS described Chloe exactly as ILL with her dialouge.
WriteAngel1
01-25-2007, 08:32 PM
I hopped on the chlois bandwagon once because I despise the way Lois Lana is portrayed on smallville but it lasted about two seconds because Chloe is an awesome character in her own right and I hope to see future production of Supermans youth with her in it. I dont think SV Lois Lane can get any cheaper than she already is but I love the character Chloe Sullivan and really hope for chlark but honestly I only watch for Chloe and Lex.
shirkie
01-25-2007, 08:32 PM
Guys, be careful not to turn this into another Chlois thread.
shirkie
firefly01
01-25-2007, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by Maryliz48
Yeah they had a great talk, but Clark says he still loves Lana :rolleyes: ...but thats ok bc this episode made chlois extremly obvious with that final talk they had about "who was chloe" and then in the talon scene in the dream, Clark had to choose btw Lana or Chloe...Chloe started running off and mentioning how Lana would always work on Clark....but Clark chose to go after Chloe. :eek:
Holy crap! Chloe asked Clark if she was
future editor of the DP (ILL's job once Perry leaves)!!!!!
or
a Pulitzer winner (ILL!!!!!!!!!!!) Okay, I've never bought into the Chlois theory, but even I went, uh, what? Pulitzer Prize? That's supposed to be Lois. Very interesting that they mentioned that.
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Ayanne
Actually the WRITERS described Chloe exactly as ILL with her dialouge.
YEP and they are doing it FOR A REASON. There was a lot of Foreshadowing in this episode and it was creepy how Lana at the end of it had the EXACT Hairstyle AND OUtfit on as Martha Luthor (Mrs. Luthor) in CLarks dream!
firefly01
01-25-2007, 08:34 PM
I thought the Chlark was nice. What did Clark say at the end? "You mean a lot more to me than you know?" Or did I get that wrong? Cause Lex said that to Lana at the end of Commencement. Weird.
darkraya
01-25-2007, 08:37 PM
its nic eto see some chlark this season. whe had our share in justice and now theires more. well they say the best is only to comme...
cptep46
01-25-2007, 08:39 PM
What I found interesting was while the Zoner had major control of Clark's perceptions, it couldn't twist Clark's perception of Chloe. It showed that even out of his mind, Chloe is the one person he can depend on. I think that speaks more to a Chlark then anything else. Clark's subconscious has figured it out. Now if only he would... =)
Krypto/DQ/
01-25-2007, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by firefly01
I thought the Chlark was nice. What did Clark say at the end? "You mean a lot more to me than you know?" Or did I get that wrong? Cause Lex said that to Lana at the end of Commencement. Weird.
You are right, thats what he said :D Teasing again :rolleyes:
CreedogV
01-25-2007, 08:42 PM
You people are so much more sane than the posters on TWoP. They're discounting the Chlark (even the Chlarkers) and lamenting the Clana, which you all totally realized was nails in the Clana coffin (yours and my words exactly).
And Chlois! You see the Chlois!
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by cptep46
What I found interesting was while the Zoner had major control of Clark's perceptions, it couldn't twist Clark's perception of Chloe. It showed that even out of his mind, Chloe is the one person he can depend on. I think that speaks more to a Chlark then anything else. Clark's subconscious has figured it out. Now if only he would... =)
Also at the Talon with faced with the Choice of LANA or CHLOE. He chose to go after Chloe. Foreshadowing anyone? And w Chloes ILL decription by the writers WOW.
wb-superman
01-25-2007, 08:43 PM
I was really hoping a Chlark's kiss at the end of that episode. But I fell sad cuz Clark say he still love her and to me Chloe look kinda down that she hear that. plz no more false hope. The writer is messing up lately now in my point of view.
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 08:44 PM
Chlois and Chlark are pretty much one and the same after this episode :rolleyes: .
cotton candy girl
01-25-2007, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by Maryliz48
Chlois and Chlark are pretty much one and the same after this episode :rolleyes: .
Shirkie said not to turn this into a Chlois thread, and I think we need to listen to the mods. That's all. :)
Ayanne
01-25-2007, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by cptep46
What I found interesting was while the Zoner had major control of Clark's perceptions, it couldn't twist Clark's perception of Chloe. It showed that even out of his mind, Chloe is the one person he can depend on. I think that speaks more to a Chlark then anything else. Clark's subconscious has figured it out. Now if only he would... =)
That reminds me of one of my favorite Mulder & Scully moments. He told her even in *his* alternate universe - SHE was his touchstone, his truth.
That's exactly what Chloe was to Clark tonight. Nice comparison to one TV's all time duos.
CreedogV
01-25-2007, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by firefly01
I thought the Chlark was nice. What did Clark say at the end? "You mean a lot more to me than you know?" Or did I get that wrong? Cause Lex said that to Lana at the end of Commencement. Weird.
No, some genius on one of the other forums said the same thing. I totally agreed with him.
emily feist
01-25-2007, 08:47 PM
Wow, so is this foreshadowing a possible realtionship between the two?
aqgalaxy
01-25-2007, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by wb-superman
I was really hoping a Chlark's kiss at the end of that episode. But I fell sad cuz Clark say he still love her and to me Chloe look kinda down that she hear that. plz no more false hope. The writer is messing up lately now in my point of view.
The writers showed Chloe's sadden expression to that cause that shows she still in love with him, yet she is still happy to know she isn't alone. I bet that would have hurt her if she was single at this point and Clark yet again confesses how he loves Lana to her...
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Thanks. I was thinking Chlark was being set up, but you made me feel a little better, not that the triangle is good for the show or anything.
Well dont hold off on that thought jus yet I do think a setup is comin involvin chlark yet I think tonight showed it'll involved lana once again.Jus as clexana was shown like myankskent spoke on,I think in the talon scene wit the girls it was also setup that clark will have to choose jus like lana will this season.Lana will have to choose between marryin lex or goin after clark,and clark will have to choose between the normal life(Lana)or his acceptin his destiny(Chloe).Tptb definitely setup 2 triangles tonight wit the 4 lead characters I thought it was pretty obvious,the only question is which will clark choose chloe already hinted that lana is also his kryptonite so we'll see.
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
Well dont hold off on that thought jus yet I do think a setup is comin involvin chlark yet I think tonight showed it'll involved lana once again.Jus as clexana was shown like myankskent spoke on,I think in the talon scene wit the girls it was also setup that clark will have to choose jus like lana will this season.Lana will have to choose between marryin lex or goin after clark,and clark will have to choose between the normal life(Lana)or his acceptin his destiny(Chloe).Tptb definitely setup 2 triangles tonight wit the 4 lead characters I thought it was pretty obvious,the only question is which will clark choose chloe already hinted that lana is also his kryptonite so we'll see.
I know Clark chose to Pursue Chloe at the Talon when faced w the prospect: Lana OR Chloe? Obviously Clark still loves Lana :rolleyes: ( but even in the comics the Clois triangle ALWAYS involves Lana) but I saw ALOT of foreshadowing tonight :eek:
cotton candy girl
01-25-2007, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
Well dont hold off on that thought jus yet I do think a setup is comin involvin chlark yet I think tonight showed it'll involved lana once again.Jus as clexana was shown like myankskent spoke on,I think in the talon scene wit the girls it was also setup that clark will have to choose jus like lana will this season.Lana will have to choose between marryin lex or goin after clark,and clark will have to choose between the normal life(Lana)or his acceptin his destiny(Chloe).Tptb definitely setup 2 triangles tonight wit the 4 lead characters I thought it was pretty obvious,the only question is which will clark choose chloe already hinted that lana is also his kryptonite so we'll see.
Way to go, D.M.A. Way to go. :mad: Just kidding. :p
I don't think Chloe represents his destiny. How could she, when Lois is his destiny?
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 08:50 PM
Unlesss.... mwahaha.
myankskent
01-25-2007, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Way to go, D.M.A. Way to go. :mad: Just kidding. :p
I don't think Chloe represents his destiny. How could she, when Lois is his destiny?
Chloe represents friendship...good, solid friendship that will never die. But romantically, this episode proved once again that Clark wants Lana, not Chloe. Next week, redK Clark will give us yet another confirmation of this. The changes from Clark's perspective toward Chloe are thus far nonexistent. He still wants Lana.
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by aqgalaxy
And the BDA is totally going to crush her next week... wow she really does mean that much to him huh?
ha I was thinkin the same if she means so much why assault her so bad next week,but I did like how he wanted to assure her lana doesn't mean everythin to him(She has a place in his hear 2).There moment was 2 cute,funny even the clana moment at the end was cute...ok I must have really liked the epi if I'm sayin that :lol: jus kiddin.But I definitely dont get why he is goin to insult her next week unless her death effected him more cause at 1 point I thought he was goin to give in cause he really believe he hurt everyone that was every close to him.So I can see him bein upset yet tryin to push her away,then again his comments about her meanin more could also be a reason(Maybe he does feel sumthin more and jus hates to admit it,but redk will make it known :lol: ).Its really hard to tell tonight cause tptb imo setup 2 triangles dealin wit clark and lana havin to make choices,so we'll see next week I guess
cotton candy girl
01-25-2007, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Maryliz48
Unlesss.... mwahaha.
:lol: That was a good one. Honestly.
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Way to go, D.M.A. Way to go. :mad: Just kidding. :p
I don't think Chloe represents his destiny. How could she, when Lois is his destiny?
Well I didn't really mean destiny like ur thinkin more like lana meanin normal life,chloe meanin acceptin he is diff.But hey if u wanna believe it means she's sumone else be my guess :D .I didn't mean it in that way tho I apologize,I'm jus suprise u even admitted to seein a potential chlark setup tonight in ur post earlier I jus knew u would be happy wit the clexana endin.Even I can admit they r settin up clexana triangle,I jus thought they were settin up chlarkana as well.So no worries,sorry for the mixup tho :D
cotton candy girl
01-25-2007, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
Well I didn't really mean destiny like ur thinkin more like lana meanin normal life,chloe meanin acceptin he is diff.But hey if u wanna believe it means she's sumone else be my guess :D .I didn't mean it in that way tho I apologize,I'm jus suprise u even admitted to seein a potential chlark setup tonight in ur post earlier I jus knew u would be happy wit the clexana endin.Even I can admit they r settin up clexana triangle,I jus thought they were settin up chlarkana as well.So no worries,sorry for the mixup tho :D
Don't apologize. I agree that Chloe helps him accept he is different, but at the same time I think she is a crutch for him. But anyway yeah, to me it looked like tonight might have set up Clark dating Chloe. And the end, when Clark said, "I woke up", I thought that meant he woke up and started getting over Lana. Maybe I'm wrong.
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
Chloe represents friendship...good, solid friendship that will never die. But romantically, this episode proved once again that Clark wants Lana, not Chloe. Next week, redK Clark will give us yet another confirmation of this. The changes from Clark's perspective toward Chloe are thus far nonexistent. He still wants Lana.
I disagree I think she represents a choice of realizin he'll never be normal,and friendship isn't all I see.I thought tonight their scene by the fire was clark once again bein confused(Like he was in the talon scene wit both girls)he thought he was over lana but has to be honest he isn't.And it shows that chloe herself isn't over clark either yet clark's actions next week will give chloe a sign that if clark is willing to give everythin up for lana maybe there will never be a chance wit clark.And if there is never a chance she has to find a way to be happy wit a life outside of him,which I think clark wont go for.If this friendship is as important as he says/u say as well then he'll try his best to save it and her decision will be to stick by him.Clark is still confused cause he thinks he can move on yet sumthin always reminds him that he hasn't,yet chasin chloe to fix their friendship later on this season will help him process things better.Her comments tonight about lana bein kryptonite/clark not tellin her she died(Which I'm guessin means he didn't tell her of him havin to choose between the 2)/her comments about he could never resist her will come into play later.I do think clark's feelings r startin to show(Last week and now this week)for chloe he jus cant say for certain that its what he wants.He doesn't kno what he wants and I think what tptb will show is him havin to make a choice and I'm guessin this time he'll pick chloe and resist lana :D
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Don't apologize. I agree that Chloe helps him accept he is different, but at the same time I think she is a crutch for him. But anyway yeah, to me it looked like tonight might have said up Clark dating Chloe. And the end, when Clark said, "I woke up", I thought that meant he woke up and started getting over Lana. Maybe I'm wrong.
Well I think its both,I think he is jus confused about his feelings jus like in s1/2 about the women in his life.Chloe I dont feel is a crutch but hey we can't agree on everythin now can we :D .As for clana I thought for certain at the end he knew his feelings were mixed up cause he showed hope imo to both girls and both saw sumthin in him(Chloe question him about what happen/askin if he was over lana and lana askin what's on his mind),so its obvious he'll have 2 make a choice soon.Clexana imo is more so about lana makin a choice and chlarkana is more about clark makin a choice.I thought that was shown tonight while givin both triangles hope,and wit the chlarkana tension in hydro over the secret and tonight talon scene I expect them to have more build off it.Jus like I expect more from clexana so we'll see
Originally posted by cptep46
What I found interesting was while the Zoner had major control of Clark's perceptions, it couldn't twist Clark's perception of Chloe. It showed that even out of his mind, Chloe is the one person he can depend on. I think that speaks more to a Chlark then anything else. Clark's subconscious has figured it out. Now if only he would... =)
True I agree he did figure it out sort of,thats why I think when he confess next week he wanted more he really is lettin more out than he intends 2.Clark feels more but feels he's lost his chance his conscious however wont believe that(Jus as he believes he's not over lana yet either),its more about clark admittin he wants more.I think his outburst will let out alil 2 much and will let jimmy kno he wants more wit chloe yet wit clark still conflict over his feelings for lana I dont see it goin anywhere jus yet.They'll build on the tension cause now clark has these feelings for 2 women and doesn't kno which to choose.But I also think by lettin lana kno the secret and puttin him at odds wit chloe at the same time sets the girls on equal grounds for clark.Cause then he wont look at his feelings for chloe as jus "O I only feel sumthin more cause she knows my secret and will always be by my side".Makin him work to save the friendship he'll damage next week yet have lana learn his secret and expect him to give everythin he's been thru this past yr to make it work wit them now.So i think both girls tonight put the thoughts in clark's head that he'll need to make a choice.Lana's words at the asylum about not livin this RW life and givin it all up to be wit her is sumthin he'll have to choose over,and while he's processin his feelings for lana he'll be ruinin his friendship wit chloe(Havin her rethink her closeness 2 him).So it sets up him final resistin lana like chloe assumes he never will and him havin to prove he's over her/wants more wit chloe.So I do think tonight setup choices for both clark and lana,cause we kno lana has 2 choose between marryin lex or goin after clark once she learns the secret.And clark will have to choose is lana worth losin/givin up everythin else even his friendship wit chloe.Thats what I saw tonight more choices
Krypto/DQ/
01-25-2007, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
Don't apologize. I agree that Chloe helps him accept he is different, but at the same time I think she is a crutch for him. But anyway yeah, to me it looked like tonight might have said up Clark dating Chloe. And the end, when Clark said, "I woke up", I thought that meant he woke up and started getting over Lana. Maybe I'm wrong.
I agree with this. And I hope its that.:)
Coyote
01-25-2007, 09:14 PM
It was a touching scene and Allison Mack and Tom both did nice acting jobs. But it was basically the same old routine of Clark telling Chloe she's a good friend while throwing Lana in her face.
CallMeClark
01-25-2007, 09:17 PM
The Chlark and Clana were both played tonight during the last five minutes... I think it was a great setup for Crimson, where he tells both of them he has had feelings for them.
cotton candy girl
01-25-2007, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
I agree with this. And I hope its that.:)
I don't, even though I wrote it, lol.
CallMeClark
01-25-2007, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
I don't, even though I wrote it, lol.
I only pray you're right.
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by firefly01
I thought the Chlark was nice. What did Clark say at the end? "You mean a lot more to me than you know?" Or did I get that wrong? Cause Lex said that to Lana at the end of Commencement. Weird.
Ur right lex did say similar words if those exact words and funny we kno where that lead 2 wit lexana :lol: .I do think clark was tryin to tell chloe without actually sayin that she means more to him than she knows(Meanin his feelings for her).She knows she means alot to him prob the world espcially after he told her she was the 1 to believe him,but his comments came at a time when I thought he notice she looked alil hurt/confused that he was choosin lana again.Not turnin her down but jus sayin that lana means more than his destiny/his friends/his life in general and wit her always pushin him to be great I think she was alil hurt he was willing to give it all up(Which would explain her lana=kryptonite comment).And then clark has to tell her that she's up on his list as well :D
Originally posted by CallMeClark
The Chlark and Clana were both played tonight during the last five minutes... I think it was a great setup for Crimson, where he tells both of them he has had feelings for them.
I agree,I thought his last couple scenes wit them were to setup him fessin up to his feelings for both girls next week.I think at sum point this season he'll have to choose between the girls and I thought tonight he set it up where we r to believe lana will always come first.But I'm expectin clark to actually wakeup(As CCG stated)from lana and move on,but we'll see.I do think tonight setup him tellin both girls he feels sumthin more,but since he's on redk he'll jus make things more confusin than good :rolleyes:.Cause chloe wont believe him cause of the redk and his comments tonight and lana will cause she doesn't kno of redk effects.Havin him at odds wit chloe while lana seems more interested in him,jus like tonight when chloe walked off cause he couldn't resist lana.Lana wants to find out more about clark and wants clark,clark is confused as usual,and chloe is stuck in the middle wit a guy she luvs that she thinks can never pick her over lana.So he'll make things worse for chlark/interestin for clana next week,but definitely a setup of his outburst
wallyK
01-25-2007, 09:23 PM
The writers could go with the Lex/Lana/Clark triangle or seriously start up Clark/Chloe (Chloe would ditch Jimmy in a heartbeat if Clark wanted her). I think that Chlark would be very nice, but it just doesn't meet the angst quotient for Smallville. If her were to get together with Chloe, they might actually live happily ever after. So, we are left with the Lex/Lana/Clark triangle. As seen in this episode, Clark still has feelings for Lana. That doesn't mean he is going to try to get back together with her, at least not if he is in his right mind. Of course, this is Smallville, and Clark is not always in his right mind.
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
I disagree I think she represents a choice of realizin he'll never be normal,and friendship isn't all I see.I thought tonight their scene by the fire was clark once again bein confused(Like he was in the talon scene wit both girls)he thought he was over lana but has to be honest he isn't.And it shows that chloe herself isn't over clark either yet clark's actions next week will give chloe a sign that if clark is willing to give everythin up for lana maybe there will never be a chance wit clark.And if there is never a chance she has to find a way to be happy wit a life outside of him,which I think clark wont go for.If this friendship is as important as he says/u say as well then he'll try his best to save it and her decision will be to stick by him.Clark is still confused cause he thinks he can move on yet sumthin always reminds him that he hasn't,yet chasin chloe to fix their friendship later on this season will help him process things better.Her comments tonight about lana bein kryptonite/clark not tellin her she died(Which I'm guessin means he didn't tell her of him havin to choose between the 2)/her comments about he could never resist her will come into play later.I do think clark's feelings r startin to show(Last week and now this week)for chloe he jus cant say for certain that its what he wants.He doesn't kno what he wants and I think what tptb will show is him havin to make a choice and I'm guessin this time he'll pick chloe and resist lana :D
Well I think its both,I think he is jus confused about his feelings jus like in s1/2 about the women in his life.Chloe I dont feel is a crutch but hey we can't agree on everythin now can we :D .As for clana I thought for certain at the end he knew his feelings were mixed up cause he showed hope imo to both girls and both saw sumthin in him(Chloe question him about what happen/askin if he was over lana and lana askin what's on his mind),so its obvious he'll have 2 make a choice soon.Clexana imo is more so about lana makin a choice and chlarkana is more about clark makin a choice.I thought that was shown tonight while givin both triangles hope,and wit the chlarkana tension in hydro over the secret and tonight talon scene I expect them to have more build off it.Jus like I expect more from clexana so we'll see
I def saw setup tonight for BOTH of the major Triangles too: Chlarkana and CLexana. BC w that last couch seen it was interesting to hear Clark say "You mean alot more to me than you know" just like Jimmy's statement in "Subterranean" about Clark being "madly in love" with Chloe seemed foreshadowing. Just like Clark choosing to go with Chloe over Lana in the Talon seemed to be forshadowing". However Clark still loves Lana....but I think it was great he actually didnt kiss Lana in the AU, and it was interesting to see how Lana described him in the Dream telling him she was sleeping with his enemy, pregnant w the guys child and he (Clark) was responsible for killing lots of innocent people...it def made Lana look like the devils advocate in there.... But this episode proved alot of things people have been wondering about this season: Chloe OBVIOUSLY still has feelings for Clark and sees Lana as his "kryptonite", Chloe means alot more to Clark than she knows, Clark still loves Lana, but the couch scene gave quite a torn impression on Clark's part about about his feelings, he's starting to realize just how much Chloe means to him....so basically in the dream we had both Chlarkana playing up and in the talon scene Clexana playing up....and the funny thing is Clark and Chloe together were perfectly sane going by real world standards and the Phantom Zoner could not affect Chloe like he did Martha (who knows his secret too!) or Lionel, or Lana! WEIRD....and Chloe suggesting she be a future editor of the DP or a Pulitzer prize winner.......wow this episode setup alot!
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
I don't, even though I wrote it, lol.
dont lose hope,wit these writers if u do ship any(clana,chlark,clois,lexana etc)u have to keep hope cause these guys dont kno what ship they wanna show :rolleyes:
Krypto/DQ/
01-25-2007, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
I don't, even though I wrote it, lol.
:rotfl: You can't go back now! :p
Seriously, I'm just happy that not only Chlarkers may have seen a lilttle something in Laby. I may not be crazy :) There are many differents ways to see it....but I'm sorry, I didn't see that scene as friendship...thats just me. Was really cute tho and Allison and Tom did a beautiful job as usual :D
I really hope Clark gets over Lana....tonight's epi give us a lil bit of it I think. Hope they'll be friends.
AndiGirl
01-25-2007, 09:29 PM
I'm sorry...but I don't think anyone is seeing the scene like I saw it! haha. Everyone keeps talking about what a nice friend scene it was.... but Clark wasn't looking at Chloe like a friend. I think that was the point he was trying to make, he wasn't saying you mean more to me then you know as in...you are a really good friend. She already knows that! He was saying you mean more to me.....as in, yes...I do have more then friendly feelings for you. Which is why our normally sparky Chloe was speechless...she didn't seem to know what to say. Because she still has a boyfriend. It obviously wasn't his declaration of undying love...but it's a start. I do think it ruined the moment when Clark said he still loves Lana, even though it's to be expected. I do think he was trying to tell Chloe that even though he loves Lana, he still has strong feelings for her too. As for him telling Chloe off next week...I think it's just going to because Red K Clark is a jerk! haha. Part of Clark is probably mad Chloe blew the kiss of, and Red-K Clark won't be afraid to tell Chloe that at all. oohhhh Chlark goodness...I love it! :)
Rachel B
01-25-2007, 09:30 PM
You guys are slowly but surely building my Chlarker heart back up. I was literally yelling at my tv, I haven't even watched Grey's Anatomy yet, I'm too upset to watch another show right now.
Just like Clark choosing to go with Chloe over Lana in the Talon seemed to be forshadowing"
I noticed that too! I was so happy when he left with Chloe instead of staying with Lana!
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by wallyK
The writers could go with the Lex/Lana/Clark triangle or seriously start up Clark/Chloe (Chloe would ditch Jimmy in a heartbeat if Clark wanted her). I think that Chlark would be very nice, but it just doesn't meet the angst quotient for Smallville. If her were to get together with Chloe, they might actually live happily ever after. So, we are left with the Lex/Lana/Clark triangle. As seen in this episode, Clark still has feelings for Lana. That doesn't mean he is going to try to get back together with her, at least not if he is in his right mind. Of course, this is Smallville, and Clark is not always in his right mind.
:lol: ur right chlark jus doesn't fit AlMiles usual angsty ship at this point,chlark would be so perfect together that it may be a reason they've been apart so long.I do think tptb r finna toy wit both triangles for a moment and then we may get a final answer on what clark wants by the end of the season.But right now they r jus confusin the boy while makin it seem like lana knows what she wants(Clark)she's jus waitin for clark to give her a sign.But once she learns the secret she'll try to force him to give her a sign by comin to him wit the notion that clana would work now that she knows everything.Yet wit the hateful look she gave chloe in hydro I do think they'll playup the chlarkana triangle cause now lana will know the secret.So she'll feel it can work yet if she see clark startin to make a decision between both girls maybe she'll try to get clark's attention sumhow or throw chloe off of clark again like in s2.Who knows,I do think they r playin up both triangles and find it funny that u mention chlark not havin enough angst for AlMiles :lol:
cotton candy girl
01-25-2007, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
dont lose hope,wit these writers if u do ship any(clana,chlark,clois,lexana etc)u have to keep hope cause these guys dont kno what ship they wanna show :rolleyes:
You're so positive. :) I'm going to tell you a secret if you promise not to tell anyone: I'm starting to maybe not mind if Clark dates Chloe. And I can't believe I typed that. :eek:
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by AndiGirl
I'm sorry...but I don't think anyone is seeing the scene like I saw it! haha. Everyone keeps talking about what a nice friend scene it was.... but Clark wasn't looking at Chloe like a friend. I think that was the point he was trying to make, he wasn't saying you mean more to me then you know as in...you are a really good friend. She already knows that! He was saying you mean more to me.....as in, yes...I do have more then friendly feelings for you. Which is why our normally sparky Chloe was speechless...she didn't seem to know what to say. Because she still has a boyfriend. It obviously wasn't his declaration of undying love...but it's a start. I do think it ruined the moment when Clark said he still loves Lana, even though it's to be expected. I do think he was trying to tell Chloe that even though he loves Lana, he still has strong feelings for her too. As for him telling Chloe off next week...I think it's just going to because Red K Clark is a jerk! haha. Part of Clark is probably mad Chloe blew the kiss of, and Red-K Clark won't be afraid to tell Chloe that at all. oohhhh Chlark goodness...I love it! :)
Wow i saw that too....when he said "you mean more to me than you know" it seems just as foreshadowing as Jimmy's saying "he's madly in love with you!"........it isnt in full effect yet but the signs are starting to show and its being set up. this episode PROVED it.
Rachel B
01-25-2007, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
You're so positive. :) I'm going to tell you a secret if you promise not to tell anyone: I'm starting to maybe not mind if Clark dates Chloe. And I can't believe I typed that. :eek:
You see what Clana does? It makes people accept any other ship :lol:
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Maryliz48
I def saw setup tonight for BOTH of the major Triangles too: Chlarkana and CLexana. BC w that last couch seen it was interesting to hear Clark say "You mean alot more to me than you know" just like Jimmy's statement in "Subterranean" about Clark being "madly in love" with Chloe seemed foreshadowing. Just like Clark choosing to go with Chloe over Lana in the Talon seemed to be forshadowing". However Clark still loves Lana....but I think it was great he actually didnt kiss Lana in the AU, and it was interesting to see how Lana described him in the Dream telling him she was sleeping with his enemy, pregnant w the guys child and he (Clark) was responsible for killing lots of innocent people...it def made Lana look like the devils advocate in there.... But this episode proved alot of things people have been wondering about this season: Chloe OBVIOUSLY still has feelings for Clark and sees Lana as his "kryptonite", Chloe means alot more to Clark than she knows, Clark still loves Lana, but the couch scene gave quite a torn impression on Clark's part about about his feelings, he's starting to realize just how much Chloe means to him....so basically in the dream we had both Chlarkana playing up and in the talon scene Clexana playing up....and the funny thing is Clark and Chloe together were perfectly sane going by real world standards and the Phantom Zoner could not affect Chloe like he did Martha (who knows his secret too!) or Lionel, or Lana! WEIRD....and Chloe suggesting she be a future editor of the DP or a Pulitzer prize winner.......wow this episode setup alot!
I agree lana's talk about clark's RW was scary when I heard clark say he still luved her,I thought "U idiot" :lol: .For a moment I lost hope in the BDA but he redeem it wit his lines to chloe about how much she means to him.I agree it showed she still had feelings cause her facial expression was clear,and in sumway I think clark notice it which is why he spokeup about how important she is.Yet he admits he thought he was over lana so at the same time he knows he's 2 messed up in the head(Ha)to make a decision now.Jus like in the talon,if chloe wouldn't have made the choice for him(Which was lana to her)then he wouldn't have said a word.So I think its forshadowin not only to jimmy's words of clark bein madly in luv wit her(Funny he was crazy tonight,so I guess that madly meant sumthin :lol: )but chloe givin up on clark because he's willing to give everythin up for lana.And for once clark will have to chase/pine or whatever u wanna call it after chloe to not only save their friendship but save whatever it is he's feelings right now.He seems confused and chloe will make it easy on him by backin off and lettin him have lana,but I think tonight seein him run after chloe was a sign that chloe can backoff yet clark wont let her go as easy.Which would explain the comments of her meanin more,cause he'll finally show her and those anti's still in denial :p that she does even more than his lanaK :lol:
AndiGirl
01-25-2007, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
You're so positive. :) I'm going to tell you a secret if you promise not to tell anyone: I'm starting to maybe not mind if Clark dates Chloe. And I can't believe I typed that. :eek:
Another conversion in the making!! *happy dance!* :rotfl:
meggy
01-25-2007, 09:46 PM
hmmm..despite the sickening "i still love her" nonsense, I loved the Chlark fireplace scene...Solitude anyone?? :) remind me of that scene by the fireplace too...
you know, i think what he said to her was very telling...now i'm not going to say that they are going to jump into a romance, but he is realizing just how much he means to her, and perhaps how much he takes her for granted...that's a step in the right direction...she said she would die for him, and she did. Period.
I was expecting more Chlark in the epi...but i'm ok with it, because there were a few things i noticed:
1) it's late at night, and Chlark are hanging out like they used to...boyfriend or no boyfriend...they are still very close friends who spend time together..not just solving cases
2)the fact that Chloe was coming over to hang out, and the fireplace scene where he told her that she meant more to him, was put in there for a REASON...because honestly, in the beginning scene, it would have been fine if they never mentioned that Chloe was coming over, and it would have been fine if she didnt find him in the barn after etc, the story would have continued.....but those scenes were purposefully put in because it's going to lead to something later....what?..i'm ot sure yet
Tom and Allison did a VERY good job at the end...it was sooooo much like the Solitude scene...he tries to tell her how important she is to him, and she blushes and uses snark/jokes to lighten the moment.....
Solitude:
Clark:"you know, Prof fine said humans were......Obviously, he didnt know you very well..."
Chloe:"Puuhhlease, prof fine knows as much about human nature as R2-D2"
Labryinth:
Clark:"...you mean more to me than you ever know...."
Chloe: "is this where we bring in th Barry Manilow music..."
well done :)
and yes, even though she might be still in love with Clark (really, can you blame the girl??once you know all about CK it's hard to go back), i think some of her disappointment came from the fact that he was STILL willing to give up everything and everyone for her.....so has he learned nothing? doesnt he realize there is more on this earth for him???...did Raya and JK die for nothing??....i'm not too mad at him, he's obviously still learning....
also..did everyone else SEE the indecision of Lana at the end?..yes folks....Clexana viscious cycle is back....
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by AndiGirl
I'm sorry...but I don't think anyone is seeing the scene like I saw it! haha. Everyone keeps talking about what a nice friend scene it was.... but Clark wasn't looking at Chloe like a friend. I think that was the point he was trying to make, he wasn't saying you mean more to me then you know as in...you are a really good friend. She already knows that! He was saying you mean more to me.....as in, yes...I do have more then friendly feelings for you. Which is why our normally sparky Chloe was speechless...she didn't seem to know what to say. Because she still has a boyfriend. It obviously wasn't his declaration of undying love...but it's a start. I do think it ruined the moment when Clark said he still loves Lana, even though it's to be expected. I do think he was trying to tell Chloe that even though he loves Lana, he still has strong feelings for her too. As for him telling Chloe off next week...I think it's just going to because Red K Clark is a jerk! haha. Part of Clark is probably mad Chloe blew the kiss of, and Red-K Clark won't be afraid to tell Chloe that at all. oohhhh Chlark goodness...I love it! :)
I agree,he made a start tonight and will confirm it next week.But since he believes she's happy he'll take it back afterwards or say to her that he felt it in the past(Tho I think tonight shows he does feel more now jus confused).She knows how much she means to him but ur right he says this after confessin he luvs lana to show that tho he isn't over lana she's not the only way he wants to be with.Wit lana he thinks its still sort of a chance wit chloe he doesn't kno for sure,but the feelings r there.And ur right she is speechless after hearin him confess he still luvs lana she speaks up but he tells her she means more than she knows and she jus grins :lol: .Yea it may not be the madly in luv moment like jimmy thinks but its definitely a start.The prob is when does he fess up to wantin more next week is it durin the redk moments or after.I'm startin to think it may come after but only him sayin it in past tense cause he knows better than to break chlimmy up,which jimmy could hear or chloe could take as him confusin him and her again.She jus heard he still luvs lana then see him kidnap her,so if he tells her afterwards that he does feel more(Maybe to ease the tension of him embarrassin her on him never returnin the feelings)it could cause chloe to rethink things.She'll stay wit jimmy til tresspass but feel awkward cause clark jus fess up to wantin more,jimmy can pickup on it and jus call it off not knowin what clark said but knowin that chloe obviously has clark on the mind.And would follow the description wit her havin to rethink how she feels for her bestfriend.So I agree,tonight was a setup of clark comin clean he's jus confused cause things aren't resolved wit lana yet(And wont be til she learns the secret and comes after him wantin him to giveup everythin for clana).I expect certain events from tonight and next week to hold over til the finale.Clark has sum choices to make,hopefully he makes the right ones :\
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 09:48 PM
Lana in RW was wearing MRS LUTHORS clothes and hair from the dream at the end of the episode.
RPMSDB
01-25-2007, 09:51 PM
I thought it was interesting that Lana said something to the degree I knew you would try to find Chloe.
Is there a possibility that Lana in the future, once she realizes Clark has super DNA and figures it all out, she'll try to talk clark into seperating himself from Chloe?
cotton candy girl
01-25-2007, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by Rachel B
You see what Clana does? It makes people accept any other ship :lol:
:( To be honest that has nothing to do with it. Now that Clark and Lana are at least talking to each other again, it makes it easier for me to let go. I'm letting go of the bitterness (I know this isn't Dr. Phil :rolleyes: :p).
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
You're so positive. :) I'm going to tell you a secret if you promise not to tell anyone: I'm starting to maybe not mind if Clark dates Chloe. And I can't believe I typed that. :eek:
hey dont feel bad,I didn't start shippin them til last season before I was torn between chlark/clana and like clark clana was a weakness til last season.But chlark eventually took over :D ,but I do think tonight shows potential for chlark/clana its jus clark will have to realize what datin those girls would be like and what he'd be givin up.I think wit lana after her talk about clark's RW not bein a life to go back to will be him datin her and givin up acceptin his destiny to live normal.And wit chloe its more like him realizin he'll never be normal and thats alright he'll have ppl who luv him anyways(Chloe/Martha)to push him to be great and understand.His job is to help ppl even the phantom poked fun at clark so its obvious clark feels the same if he told the phantom this in the AU.So clark knows he has a destiny which is savin ppl,yet a part of him wants to live normal meanin he could be wit lana.I think he'll be confused for the rest of the season espcially when lana learns his secret so u may get clana may not but u'll definitely get alot of clana moments wit lana tryin to get clark back and clark thinkin he should til the finale.So like I said dont lose ur hope tho I ship diff I kno these writers like to toy wit us,so what we get we might as well enjoy :D
meggy
01-25-2007, 09:53 PM
cotton candy girl..i will do a rain dance and convert you by the end of season 6!!!!!!!!! MWAAAHHAAAAAA...MWAAHHAAAAAA...
LOL..but seriously...this is what Clana does to ppl...it makes them say: ANYTHING ELSE! PLEASE GOD, ANYTHING ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!
kidkarmina
01-25-2007, 09:54 PM
this episode hasn't shown yet here (8 more minutes) and i'm already loving the conversations going on over here :D !!!!
glad to hear that there are some good moments between chlark. that's actually going to help me watch clana moments........
really looking forward to watch this episode.
cotton candy girl
01-25-2007, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by meggy
cotton candy girl..i will do a rain dance and convert you by the end of season 6!!!!!!!!! MWAAAHHAAAAAA...MWAAHHAAAAAA...
LOL..but seriously...this is what Clana does to ppl...it makes them say: ANYTHING ELSE! PLEASE GOD, ANYTHING ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!
No I realize that Clana should be about over, but now that they're civil to each other, I think can move on. And Chloe's sweet, even though I'm kind of tired of her not getting over Clark. See, I'm see-sawing about it.
khufu
01-25-2007, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
You're so positive. :) I'm going to tell you a secret if you promise not to tell anyone: I'm starting to maybe not mind if Clark dates Chloe. And I can't believe I typed that. :eek: Wait a minute, I know what's going on here. I must be inside the Labyrinth! This can't be real! :p And "cotton candy"? As it turns out, that's just the name of a delicious treat, not a poster. :lol:
meggy
01-25-2007, 09:57 PM
KHUFU...you're hilarious!
cotton candy girl
01-25-2007, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by khufu
Wait a minute, I know what's going on here. I must be inside the Labyrinth! This can't be real!
Yeah, acually I'm expecting to hear music anytime now. Woah, everything just went black and white. See I knew there was an explanation.
myankskent
01-25-2007, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
No I realize that Clana should be about over, but now that they're civil to each other, I think can move on. And Chloe's sweet, even though I'm kind of tired of her not getting over Clark. See, I'm see-sawing about it.
CCG, you just let me down tonight. I don't like these comments that you are making about Chlark. I think it's best that we not speak for a while so I can have some time to cope with the fact that you are joining the Chlark side.
lillie_poo_pod
01-25-2007, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
You're so positive. :) I'm going to tell you a secret if you promise not to tell anyone: I'm starting to maybe not mind if Clark dates Chloe. And I can't believe I typed that. :eek:
Well I'll be damned. I think hell just froze over. I NEVER thought you would type that!
cotton candy girl
01-25-2007, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
CCG, you just let me down tonight. I don't like these comments that you are making about Chlark. I think it's best that we not speak for a while so I can have some time to cope with the fact that you are joining the Chlark side.
:lol: Woah, don't be too hasty. I did say I was see-sawing. I think getting over my Clana bitterness (because they are being civil to each other) has made me not hate Chlark so much. BUT, I am tired of her not getting over Clark by now. Actually, I think I was mainly giving up because it seems Chlark is coming.
I can always count on you to bring me to my senses. I know people are saying "Darn, she was so close".
Sorry folks, let's all go home. Nothing to see here. :p
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by meggy
hmmm..despite the sickening "i still love her" nonsense, I loved the Chlark fireplace scene...Solitude anyone?? :) remind me of that scene by the fireplace too...
you know, i think what he said to her was very telling...now i'm not going to say that they are going to jump into a romance, but he is realizing just how much he means to her, and perhaps how much he takes her for granted...that's a step in the right direction...she said she would die for him, and she did. Period.
I was expecting more Chlark in the epi...but i'm ok with it, because there were a few things i noticed:
1) it's late at night, and Chlark are hanging out like they used to...boyfriend or no boyfriend...they are still very close friends who spend time together..not just solving cases
2)the fact that Chloe was coming over to hang out, and the fireplace scene where he told her that she meant more to him, was put in there for a REASON...because honestly, in the beginning scene, it would have been fine if they never mentioned that Chloe was coming over, and it would have been fine if she didnt find him in the barn after etc, the story would have continued.....but those scenes were purposefully put in because it's going to lead to something later....what?..i'm ot sure yet
Tom and Allison did a VERY good job at the end...it was sooooo much like the Solitude scene...he tries to tell her how important she is to him, and she blushes and uses snark/jokes to lighten the moment.....
Solitude:
Clark:"you know, Prof fine said humans were......Obviously, he didnt know you very well..."
Chloe:"Puuhhlease, prof fine knows as much about human nature as R2-D2"
Labryinth:
Clark:"...you mean more to me than you ever know...."
Chloe: "is this where we bring in th Barry Manilow music..."
well done :)
and yes, even though she might be still in love with Clark (really, can you blame the girl??once you know all about CK it's hard to go back), i think some of her disappointment came from the fact that he was STILL willing to give up everything and everyone for her.....so has he learned nothing? doesnt he realize there is more on this earth for him???...did Raya and JK die for nothing??....i'm not too mad at him, he's obviously still learning....
also..did everyone else SEE the indecision of Lana at the end?..yes folks....Clexana viscious cycle is back....
I agree it was put in there for a reason,I knew sum kind of chlark moment was goin to happen later on when clark said to shelby that chloe was comin over :lol: .It was clear they hang out alot(Sneeze,Lab)and the fireplace scene was a switch of splinter wit her bring him sumthin to sit and drink on while talkin.And ur right both times she played off him comin clean of her importance to him wit snark but it was nicely done AM/TW did a great job tonight.I do think chloe was alil hurt clark admitted to almost givin up everythin for lana as u said its like JK/Raya died for nothin wit his comments,and even chloe felt hurt(Cause she's been very supportive of him).And if she knew exactly what lana said to him at the asylum or her death then I think she definitely would have been said,but clark tried atleast to ease the mood but his assure that she means more.Do I think its a setup to sumthin more yes,cause if chloe has to rethink if its a good idea to give everythin up for clark it makes sense.She luvs him and would as so much die for him,even lose her bf because of him so she'll rethink is it a good idea when she believes clark wouldn't do the same for her.She hears off and on that he luvs lana and tonight heard he'd give up everythin for her,yet he's never shown to give anythin up for her.So I think she'll rethink her closeness to clark cause of his confusion cause clark to prove his words tonight of her meanin more later on.He'll have to fight to save their friendship and instead of givin up his destiny(Like lana wants in tha AU and possibly in the real world wit his choice of her)he'll have to giveup the 1 thing he wants for chloe which is a normal life.And I think clark has a lesson to learn from this,it was a setup yes but many setups not jus 1 :D can't wait
firefly01
01-25-2007, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Maryliz48
Lana in RW was wearing MRS LUTHORS clothes and hair from the dream at the end of the episode. Yeah, I think you're right. Weird. This whole episode was just nuts. LOL
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by RPMSDB
I thought it was interesting that Lana said something to the degree I knew you would try to find Chloe.
Is there a possibility that Lana in the future, once she realizes Clark has super DNA and figures it all out, she'll try to talk clark into seperating himself from Chloe?
Maybe who knows,if she doesn't she could try to force herself onto clark wit the knowledge and the possibility of clana workin.Cause she's afraid that if clark ever process his feelings for chloe it jus may work and she'll get scared jus like in fever at the end.Tho chloe always saw clark pickin lana over her,lana has always seen it as chloe bein the 1.So lana tho I dont think she's meant it(Maybe she has who knows)has gone behind chloe to get clark's attention before and once she learns the secret I expect the same.She'll throw in their past luv and the secret and try to convince him that it can work now,and that he can quit fightin wit the world and jus be wit her.But I'm expectin clana closeness to damage chlark temporary tho,once chloe rethinks her feelings for clark in tresspass she may go to clark and see clana gettin close again.forcin her to walk out on clark again like in the talon scene cause she thinks he'll never change,also forcin her to rethink if she should sacrafice everythin for sumone who is willing to giveup everything to be wit lana.It sets up tension,but I do think lana will play a part in chlark seperation in the 2nd half atleast for awhile til she realize clark may never want clana to comeback but clark will have to make it up bad to chloe tho.Cause I got a feelin she'll see clana again and think he's pickin her again,and back off from clark atleast til he shows her how much more she's worth to him.
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
:( To be honest that has nothing to do with it. Now that Clark and Lana are at least talking to each other again, it makes it easier for me to let go. I'm letting go of the bitterness (I know this isn't Dr. Phil :rolleyes: :p).
I agree,clana scene was very watchable tonight because in hydro lana makes it clear she wants to atleast save their friendship(Well that was before she tries to get his secret out of him).So hydro was sumwhat a start and tonight was nice 2 see,they seem sweet together before lex showed up :mad: .And atleast aren't as bitter towards 1 another,so thats a start it atleast sets up tension for them espcially wit lex sayin he almost believe clark was sincere tonight.So I can understand why its alil easier to let it go,I think after splinter last season it became easier for me and they were still datin then :rolleyes:
Originally posted by khufu
Wait a minute, I know what's going on here. I must be inside the Labyrinth! This can't be real! :p And "cotton candy"? As it turns out, that's just the name of a delicious treat, not a poster. :lol:
:lol: u stay crackin me up,but honestly I thought that way at first 2 so I understand ur disbelief even she's shocked :D
Originally posted by myankskent
CCG, you just let me down tonight. I don't like these comments that you are making about Chlark. I think it's best that we not speak for a while so I can have some time to cope with the fact that you are joining the Chlark side.
:lol: guess she's join clark in the makeup ur mind category and ur like chloe hearin this hurts so u need to alone :lol:
myankskent
01-25-2007, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
:lol: Woah, don't be too hasty. I did say I was see-sawing. I think getting over my Clana bitterness (because they are being civil to each other) has made me not hate Chlark so much. BUT, I am tired of her not getting over Clark by now. Actually, I think I was mainly giving up because it seems Chlark is coming.
I can always count on you to bring me to my senses. I know people are saying "Darn, she was so close".
Sorry folks, let's all go home. Nothing to see here. :p
whew...that was a close call. :)
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
whew...that was a close call. :)
I dont kno now,she seems alil confused like she says see-saw so dont breathe easy jus yet :p .Notice her reactions came from clana actually gettin along and next week we'll definitely see them havin there moments so she maybe alil more confused then as well,and dependin on how bad clark insults chloe and when/the way he admits him wantin more she may really need time to process what she does and doesn't like/want :D.She's safe for now but will need ur help again next week,hey can't say I didn't try to atleast help tho I ship diff.I understand her pain sumwhat :D
meggy
01-25-2007, 10:20 PM
awwwww..it's all fun CCG...all fun! :)
Maryliz48
01-25-2007, 10:22 PM
So what Im wondering is: since Clark tells Chloe he still loves "Lana" (his feelings were obviously conflicting) and then in Crimson she sees Clois and Clana. Would then after him telling her about having feelings for her on Red K cause her to BACKOFF and make room for Clana (bc of what Clark said about Lana being his weakness) and though she still loves Clark tell him shes over him (and their friendship may need sum repairing after Crimson)....if Clark is really torn btw Chloe and Clana, Chloe gets the power in the relationship now bc its no longer her pursuing Clark and him having to say ok, but rather Chloe trying to leave Clark behind and Clark (realizing feelings) having to go towards her and try and repair the friendship to get her to say OK.
AndiGirl
01-25-2007, 10:25 PM
I think Chloe will back off because she's never going to believe Clark has feelings for her. Clark has said so many times that he could never have feelings for her. I can't blame the girl for being hesitant! haha. I also think Chloe isn't going to want to play second best for anyone and she knows being with Clark right now, that may be the case. I don't know for sure....no matter how it goes I'm going to look forward to Clark doing to chasing for once! about time!!! :)
BadToad
01-25-2007, 10:28 PM
I don't 'ship, so I'm putting that to the side...
But I really did like the Chlark scenes in front of the fire. I'm not reading anything more into it than what was there, and I just appreciate how the 2 of them are around each other. I love the fact that they communicate. Even if I do think its probably hard for Chloe to hear Clark still loves Lana on some level, a good friend is there to listen. And she does. And I think Clark is absolutely sincere when he mentions how much she means to him. I loved how he didn't tell her the reality of the dream, but instead let her believe she was a pulitzer prize winning journalist or the like. I think it says a lot that Chloe dying in his AU seemed to break him. I also think it speaks a lot about the depth of their relationship that its Chloe that he followed in the AU, and it was Chloe that believed in him.
So, pfft on 'ships, not getting into that. But once again, I'm reminded why I love TW and AM in scenes together, and why I value the Chlark friendship so much. IMO
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by meggy
awwwww..it's all fun CCG...all fun! :)
True I'm more suprise at how many r welcomin u in the chlarkside wit open arms,we all kno ur dedication to clana so we kno it must have been tough to type that post earlier :lol: but we luv u anyways CCG :D
Originally posted by AndiGirl
I think Chloe will back off because she's never going to believe Clark has feelings for her. Clark has said so many times that he could never have feelings for her. I can't blame the girl for being hesitant! haha. I also think Chloe isn't going to want to play second best for anyone and she knows being with Clark right now, that may be the case. I don't know for sure....no matter how it goes I'm going to look forward to Clark doing to chasing for once! about time!!! :)
I agree she has doubts when it comes to clark actually wantin her,yet I think his comments tonight about givin everythin up for lana will make chloe rethink things.Whether clark tells her on redk or not his feelings she'll be hesitant yes but seein him run off wit lana or runup on clana in a moment(Like tresspass/freak)could really push her away more.She has doubts that clark will never get over lana and see her for sumthin more,so clark jus sayin he feels/felt sumthin more wont cut it atleast not after tonight.He shouldn't have told her he was willing to giveup everythin for lana cause now its goin to be hard for clark to convince her he wants more,and ur right she doesn't want to play sec best to clana anymore.So it shifts the power in her corner cause now she wants clark to prove 2 her she's worth the chase as he's done so many times to lana in the past.So if clark admits next week he wants/wanted more he'll have to prove it cause she can't take his word on it.She's willing to give everythin up for him but she wonders would he giveup his lana obsession for her/and his destiny(The girl has doubts even in the AU she figured he'd give into lana).So I see her lookin at clana as a headacke and backin off leavin clark to fix his mess without her help and havin to work for the ship whether friendly or not.
AndiGirl
01-25-2007, 10:38 PM
Exactly D.M.A, it's going to be a nice change! haha. I can't wait to see Clark make an effort. :)
Ayanne
01-25-2007, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by BadToad
I don't 'ship, so I'm putting that to the side...
But I really did like the Chlark scenes in front of the fire. I'm not reading anything more into it than what was there, and I just appreciate how the 2 of them are around each other. I love the fact that they communicate. Even if I do think its probably hard for Chloe to hear Clark still loves Lana on some level, a good friend is there to listen. And she does. And I think Clark is absolutely sincere when he mentions how much she means to him. I loved how he didn't tell her the reality of the dream, but instead let her believe she was a pulitzer prize winning journalist or the like. I think it says a lot that Chloe dying in his AU seemed to break him. I also think it speaks a lot about the depth of their relationship that its Chloe that he followed in the AU, and it was Chloe that believed in him.
So, pfft on 'ships, not getting into that. But once again, I'm reminded why I love TW and AM in scenes together, and why I value the Chlark friendship so much. IMO
This is a fabulous post & it speaks to the heart of the Chlark relationship. AM & TW have the kind of chemistry most writers would *die* to write for. But the biggest aspect of Chloe & Clark is the layers played & the DEPTH of their connection.
Chlark create something *special*
D.M.A.
01-25-2007, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by AndiGirl
Exactly D.M.A, it's going to be a nice change! haha. I can't wait to see Clark make an effort. :)
I agree cause we hear him say she means so much to him but constantly see him not appreciate her.So for once it'll be nice to see him work at their friendship/romantic ship or whatever,cause from tonight I got the impression that if he's confused chloe will make the decision easier on him(And back off).So if clark really meant what he said he'll have to prove it,so I guess AM wasn't lyin about the pinin of clark(Ya see that girl slips everythin no wonder they crack jokes of not tellin her things now :lol: ).Clark confusion will only lead to lana waitin for an answer cause she's certain he'll pick her and so is chloe so chloe will break first and backoff,cause if he's willing to give everythin up for lana then maybe she needs to rethink things herself.So clark has to work to save chlark and I think its about time :D
Originally posted by Ayanne
This is a fabulous post & it speaks to the heart of the Chlark relationship. AM & TW have the kind of chemistry most writers would *die* to write for. But the biggest aspect of Chloe & Clark is the layers played & the DEPTH of their connection.
Chlark create something *special*
I agree,tho their time was limited tonight(Not many scenes before her death)what lil they had really spoke volumes.Those 2 r great together
chlark=destiny
01-25-2007, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
THe last Chlark scene was WOW. Chlark is on the way baby!
I'LL SECOND THAT!:p CHLARK was absolutely ADORABLE tonight!
CLARK:I don't know what I'd do without you Chloe
***Exchange of Smiles****
CHLOE: Oh, is this where I cue the Barry Manilow music?
***Laughs at Clark***
CLARK: No, seriously. You mean more to me than you know.
***Exchage of smiles, while intensely looking into each other's eyes***
***SWOONS***
Oh, don't even get me started on the YUMMY CHLARK HUG:p
I DEFINITELY see a CHLARK set-up;) Their conversation was more than just about friendship. . .you have to read between the lines;)
FINALLY CHLARK IS NEAR! LONG LIVE CHLARK!:p
chlarklove
01-25-2007, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by BadToad
But I really did like the Chlark scenes in front of the fire. I'm not reading anything more into it than what was there, and I just appreciate how the 2 of them are around each other. I love the fact that they communicate. Even if I do think its probably hard for Chloe to hear Clark still loves Lana on some level, a good friend is there to listen. And she does. And I think Clark is absolutely sincere when he mentions how much she means to him. I loved how he didn't tell her the reality of the dream, but instead let her believe she was a pulitzer prize winning journalist or the like. I think it says a lot that Chloe dying in his AU seemed to break him. I also think it speaks a lot about the depth of their relationship that its Chloe that he followed in the AU, and it was Chloe that believed in him.
I completely agree.
And I really love how after Chloe died, Clark just couldn't go on anymore. He gave up and into the belief that he was crazy.
Really fantastic acting by TW in those scenes. His "Chloe's dead? This can't be real, she can't be dead" and then his slump and sad defeated "Chloe's dead" against the wall at the end broke my heart.
Lostfan588
01-25-2007, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by BadToad
I loved how he didn't tell her the reality of the dream, but instead let her believe she was a pulitzer prize winning journalist or the like. I think it says a lot that Chloe dying in his AU seemed to break him. I also think it speaks a lot about the depth of their relationship that its Chloe that he followed in the AU, and it was Chloe that believed in him.
And where was Lois? Nonexistent in the future once again. I just think its weird first we have Chloe relating herself as "Lois" season 3, her cousin calling her destiny "big shot reporter at DP" and now "pulitzer prize winning journalist" and "DP chief editor"
Anyways funny how Chlark have ended up in the same boat TWICE in both dream episodes...
Lana told Clark "Your destiny isn't to save the world! Its to be with be forever!"
At the Talon she told Clark, " I knew you'd come to find Chloe."
(reminds me of her reaction after season 2 "Rush")
Clark chose Chloe OVER Lana in the dream AFTER Chloe reminds him Lana is his kryptonite. (foreshadowing?)
Chloe means more to Clark than she knows apparently in his own words, and she already knows how much her friendship means to him....this seems just as foreshadowing as Jimmys "he's madly in love with you comment in Subterranean.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-25-2007, 11:27 PM
After today I think romantic Chlark will never happen, sorry my friends. We'll all die with Clana stuffed down our throats... Sad, but true.
Lostfan588
01-25-2007, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
After today I think romantic Chlark will never happen, sorry my friends. We'll all die with Clana stuffed down our throats... Sad, but true.
Why? Lana told Clark "Your destiny isnt to save the world! Its to be with me...FOREVER!"
As Lana said to Clark in the talon "Weren't we just saying goodbye?"
"I knew you'd come to find Chloe."
Clark chose Chloe over Lana in the dream.
And even though he still loves Lana...we are now shown exactly why Clana isnt meant to be. And Clark is realizing that. Lana was also wearing Mrs Luthor (from the DREAM's hair and outfit) interesting :lol:
SMG Pro
01-25-2007, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
After today I think romantic Chlark will never happen, sorry my friends. We'll all die with Clana stuffed down our throats... Sad, but true.
lol. chlark just seems like wishful thinking to me now. hhhh.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-25-2007, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by SMG Pro
lol. chlark just seems like wishful thinking to me now. hhhh.
Clark does not deserve someone like Chloe, period.
Lostfan588
01-25-2007, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by SMG Pro
lol. chlark just seems like wishful thinking to me now. hhhh.
well clark cant get with Chloe OR Lois til he's over Lana (bc obviously Lana is the thing keeping him from his destiny...so I guess the ques we have to ask is who is being setup as that OTHER GIRL on the show.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-25-2007, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
well clark cant get with Chloe OR Lois til he's over Lana (bc obviously Lana is the thing keeping him from his destiny...so I guess the ques we have to ask is who is being setup as that OTHER GIRL on the show.
No, the question is: Will Clark ever get over Lana?
I think the answer is clear: NO.
Lostfan588
01-25-2007, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
No, the question is: Will Clark ever get over Lana?
I think the answer is clear: NO.
Yes he will dont you worry, he has to to embrace his destiny ;) .
Anyways did you notice that Lana told Clark in the Talon, " I knew you'd come to find Chloe."
And where was Chloe living? Lana's old spot. Chloe's taking Lana's place slowly but surely, and Clarks just starting to realize it.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-25-2007, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
Yes he will dont you worry, he has to to embrace his destiny ;) .
Anyways did you notice that Lana told Clark in the Talon, " I knew you'd come to find Chloe."
And where was Chloe living? Lana's old spot. Chloe's taking Lana's place slowly but surely, and Clarks just starting to realize it.
Yeah, but in the RW, when Lana leaves the Talon with Lex, she turns around to look at...Clark.
Trust me, Clana will never end.
Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Yeah, but in the RW, when Lana leaves the Talon with Lex, she turns around to look at...Clark.
Trust me, Clana will never end.
Clana never ends bc in the comics the main triangle is Lois/Clark/Lana.
Lana turns to Clark and says "Werent we just saying goodbye."
(highly symbolic)
So yes...the key idea here is to get Lana into her iconic role---all interested in Clark again ("Crimson" should help to pull that off)
But the TRIANGLE. Its of Iconic proportions. And its reversing quickly. ( Esp ILWC i know you prolly dont like it :p but so far Chloe has brought herself up as "Lois Lane" "DP chief editor" and "Pulitzer Prize Winner" and EDLois has told chloe her DESTINY is to be a big shot reporter at the DP, w Clark Kent trying to keep up with her...this isnt j the characters its the wirters putting those words in there for a reason. So if you look at it from that perspective....oh trust me...Clark will be chasing her very very soon.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 12:10 AM
Yeah, but he told Chloe that he still loves Lana...
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After 6 painful years...
Will it ever stop?
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Clark does not deserve someone like Chloe, period.
This is what I think is tptb point of makin her rethink bein so close to him,she doesn't think he'd sacrafice anythin for her mainly lana.So she'll rethink givin up everything for him as well,but once lana learns the secret it'll click in clark that this still isn't right.And he'll show thruout that he does deserve chloe right now I agree he doesn't cause the boy is 2 confused,but I think thats the point.Intil lana learns the secret there is no way to say he chooses chloe cause he luvs her and not because she knows the secret so its safe.U cant lose hope yet this was the point of buildin up tension,they need both girls to know the secret so his final choice will be truthful that he can never be wit lana and really does want chloe.So I understand ur frustrations clana does that to anti-clana's I mean hey even CCG who is a big clana fan saw the opposite she saw chlark comin so its obvious tptb r buildin up a triangle wit them.He doesn't deserve her now but once lana knows the secret and chloe's mad at him then we'll see him work for it.Dont worry :D
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 12:14 AM
Interesting theory, D.M.A. As usual.
Still, today I am tired. Veeeeeeeery tired.
I am happy for Clanaists. Truly happy.
meggy
01-26-2007, 12:15 AM
i hope so. Lostfan you always get my hopes up! :)
but with that line of "you mean more to me..." and "i dont know what i'd do...."...i think that, in regards to Chloe, things are SLOWLY but surely changing in Clark...i think even he realizes that something inside him about her is different....i liked the blushing and such going on bet. them...that was cute....
regardless of the "i still love her remark", i like how the scene was done..and i like that things are beginning to grow in CK...i say make it grow and make it steady and strong....make it gradual...and then hit him in the head with it like Kryptonite! hah!...i'll keep the faith...
myankskent
01-26-2007, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
No, the question is: Will Clark ever get over Lana?
I think the answer is clear: NO.
No, he'll get over her eventually, I just don't think until the end of the series.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by meggy
but with that line of "you mean more to me..." and "i dont know what i'd do...."...i think that, in regards to Chloe, things are SLOWLY but surely changing in Clark...i think even he realizes that something inside him about her is different....i liked the blushing and such going on bet. them...that was cute....
But all these things mean absolutely nothing as long as he still loves Lana, IMO..
Poor, poor Chloe.
Maybe she should move away with Jimmy after all...
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
Yes he will dont you worry, he has to to embrace his destiny ;) .
Anyways did you notice that Lana told Clark in the Talon, " I knew you'd come to find Chloe."
And where was Chloe living? Lana's old spot. Chloe's taking Lana's place slowly but surely, and Clarks just starting to realize it.
true she is,and not jus that but I think lana will realize it before clark admits it.She saw in hydro that chloe knew and she seemed upset of chlark's closeness I think when clark turns her down later and runs off to fix things wit chloe she'll realize it again.So I agree he's slowly pickin chloe over lana he's jus in denial because as of now chloe is a default.Once lana knows and clark realize he still feels the same(That it could never be)then he'll admit himself that his feelings for chloe aren't because he cant have lana or that she knows the secret.But because he truly feels sumthin more,thats why I feel that intil lana learns clana is always an issue.Once she learns then clark's in control cause its more about his decision on gettin back wit lana,he can luv her all he wants but its his decision if she's worth sacraficin everything for.And if she's worth losin his friendship wit chloe in the process which I think the answer is no,so I agree
Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Yeah, but he told Chloe that he still loves Lana...
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.
.
After 6 painful years...
Will it ever stop?
Yeah he loves Lana :rolleyes: , he loves Martha and Pete and Lex too! Clark loves all his friends. :p If you listen to the tone of his voice when he says he still loves her, it is not adamant at all almost weary...its like he's realizing that he still has some of those feelings needs to get over her bc after the things she told him in the dream, it isnt meant to be. EVEN IN HIS OWN MIND HE DIDNT TRUST LANA. Of course he still had it in his mind that Lana was the girl he always imagined A NORMAL life with, but Clark isnt normal...and in the couch scene he tells Chloe SHE was the only one there for him, and as for Clana.... HE WOKE UP. And she means more to him than she knows, and in other words he's starting to realize he has some feelings for CHLOE after all (but oh wait Chloes got a bf so lets be mean to her next episode and break chimmy up!" , the part of Clark wanting to be normal goes for it w Lana, and the lusty part goes for Lois....but the funny thing is the only REAL part goes for Chloe. So newayz btw if you really look at that last Chlark conversation the Chlois is so obvious its ridiculous! And as Thirst Chloes VO from the future goes she has nowhere to go but "UP UP AND AWAY!" (yeah uh huh big time superman catch phrase ;) )
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by myankskent
No, he'll get over her eventually, I just don't think until the end of the series.
Ok u and ILWC r depressin even me and I kno this is jus a setup for temporary,so u 2 need to snap out of it.ILWC go back to ur chlark corner and myankskent go back to ur clois corner,I can't have u 2 givin into this clana stuff whether u kno it MAY be true or not.Neither giveup hope if clana comes back we riot :lol: naw jus kiddin,but naw we kno clark is destine to train in the finale so we kno he cant choose to stay wit lana if its been forseen tonight that bein wit her means not acceptin helpin ppl/his destiny.So no worries he'll learn sooner than u think its jus doesn't seem possible now cause she doesn't kno the secret which always effects clark's decisions.But next week this will change lana cant want him all she wants but if he realizes it can never be even after she knows about him then I can live wit it.myankskent u of all ppl should kno better than to give in :lol::p .
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 12:22 AM
Sorry, DMA. Didn't wanna depress ya.
I'll work on it...
Tomorrow's another day.
Tomorrow's another day.
Tomorrow's another day.
Tomorrow's another day.
Tomorrow's another day.
:(
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
Yeah he loves Lana :rolleyes: , he loves Martha and Pete and Lex too! Clark loves all his friends. :p If you listen to the tone of his voice when he says he still loves her, it is not adamant at all almost weary...its like he's realizing that he still has some of those feelings needs to get over her bc after the things she told him in the dream, it isnt meant to be. EVEN IN HIS OWN MIND HE DIDNT TRUST LANA. Of course he still had it in his mind that Lana was the girl he always imagined A NORMAL life with, but Clark isnt normal...and in the couch scene he tells Chloe SHE was the only one there for him, and as for Clana.... HE WOKE UP. And she means more to him than she knows, and in other words he's starting to realize he has some feelings for CHLOE after all (but oh wait Chloes got a bf so lets be mean to her next episode and break chimmy up!" , the part of Clark wanting to be normal goes for it w Lana, and the lusty part goes for Lois....but the funny thing is the only REAL part goes for Chloe. So newayz btw if you really look at that last Chlark conversation the Chlois is so obvious its ridiculous!
I agree it maybe a slow process for him to grasp but I do believe he is sort of seein it,and once lana learns the secret then tries to get wit him anyways that process will speed up.so I agree no worries now after she learns the secret calls off the weddin and he still claims to luv her thats when we worry :lol:
Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 12:24 AM
.....or maybe the fact that Lana, even after knowing Clarks secret still goes as far as the wedding ceremony with Lex, still is pregnant, and Clarks realized he has 2 choices "stay with Lana forever" or "save the world", bc Lana in the dream told him to choose one or the other....and we already know which he picks....he picked Chloe :rolleyes: .
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 12:26 AM
I insist that we don't know for sure that Lana is gonna find out the whole truth.
Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 12:27 AM
In any case he picked Chloe. ;) This episode is so symbolic its crazy! The anvils are everywhere.
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Sorry, DMA. Didn't wanna depress ya.
I'll work on it...
Tomorrow's another day.
Tomorrow's another day.
Tomorrow's another day.
Tomorrow's another day.
Tomorrow's another day.
:(
U may want to rewatch the epi,there r 2 many key moments that setup clark realizin it wont work.And clark havin to work on fixin chlark so no worries clana wont happen romantically again.But clark will definitely be tempted next week,but thats jus the redk talkin :lol: .His feelings r confused but he'll make a decision tho cause he still has to leave and train/accept his destiny and we kno now how lana truly feels(Tho an AU still)she wants clark to herself not share wit the world.And clark will soon realize but she first needs to learn the secret and then show her true self to clark for him to snap out of the dream world of clana.No worries jus a setup of him realizin its over for good,we kno the BDA is slow.But rewatch it whenever u can if it can make a clana fan see chlark,chlarker see clana then yea we all confused as him :lol: .I thought it was a perfect setup of clark always choosin lana over everyone else and now wit her knowledge he can truly turn her down.
sstray72
01-26-2007, 12:28 AM
Chlark by the fireplace. So nice that they did it twice! I'm just waiting for Clark to sing Chef's famous song:
I'm gonna make love to ya woman
Gonna lay ya down by the fire
And caress your womanly body
Gonna make ya moan and perspire
:lol:
Oh yeah...
Plus, that Chloevage was pretty damn good. Caught her bending over... what?? Perv?? Me??? :rotfl:
Originally posted by cotton candy girl
You're so positive. :) I'm going to tell you a secret if you promise not to tell anyone: I'm starting to maybe not mind if Clark dates Chloe. And I can't believe I typed that. :eek:
Candy Girl, I always knew that you would... JOIN THE CHLARK SIDE!
It is inevitable, stop fleeing from your destiny.:D
Runestone
01-26-2007, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
.....or maybe the fact that Lana, even after knowing Clarks secret still goes as far as the wedding ceremony with Lex, still is pregnant, and Clarks realized he has 2 choices "stay with Lana forever" or "save the world", bc Lana in the dream told him to choose one or the other....and we already know which he picks....he picked Chloe :rolleyes: .
I agree. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I hope they're dragging out the whole Clana thing (but won't really take it anywhere) just to keep Clana fans watching.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 12:31 AM
Wow, did CCG really say that?
I am surprised...
:eek:
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
I insist that we don't know for sure that Lana is gonna find out the whole truth.
Maybe not the whole truth next week but eventually she will thruout the season when she tries to get clark to tell her more.Plus she knows clark has a hero complex and she worried of it in hidden,but now its more so cause she wants him to herself.So tho she may not learn it all next week she'll kno enough to realize that he uses his powers to help ppl and she'll want him to sacrafice sumthin she doesn't understand(His destiny to save the world)cause she feels its his choice when really its not.His destiny is to save ppl not sit on his powers as if they r a curse,but thats because she doesn't kno the truth even if she did I still believe she'd feel the same.Tonight showed that lana wants clark as a normal guy/bf not as this hero who tries to help everyone.But I do agree I dont think she'll learn it all atleast not next week but she'll definitely have enough to toy wit him to try to get him to tell more
Originally posted by sstray72
Candy Girl, I always knew that you would... JOIN THE CHLARK SIDE!
It is inevitable, stop fleeing from your destiny.:D
there's that d@mn destiny word again :lol: it jus keeps poppin up everywhere tonight
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
Maybe not the whole truth next week but eventually she will thruout the season when she tries to get clark to tell her more.
I would not be so sure about that...
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Wow, did CCG really say that?
I am surprised...
:eek:
yea she saw sumthin diff from u which is why I was suprise u saw sumthin diff if even she can admit to seein a setup.Tonight had 2 setups wit chlarkana/clexana but I think lana will chase clark once she learns his secret and clark will chase chloe to fix his mess/prove how much she means to him.But yea she said it,yep even she was shocked I tried makin her feel welcome :D
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
yea she saw sumthin diff from u which is why I was suprise u saw sumthin diff if even she can admit to seein a setup.Tonight had 2 setups wit chlarkana/clexana but I think lana will chase clark once she learns his secret and clark will chase chloe to fix his mess/prove how much she means to him.But yea she said it,yep even she was shocked I tried makin her feel welcome :D
Hmmmm, I simply can't get over the fact that Clark told Chloe he is still in love with Lana. After 6 years... No, she does not deserve that. He's an a$$...
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
I would not be so sure about that...
Thats the thing it says she finds out he has super DNA so I'm guessin she thinks he jus got powers not that he's an alien.She wont learn that til later if then,but she'll kno he's diff.Which will put her at an even playin field wit chloe,so whatever decision clark makes by season end will be how he truly feels and what he's willing to sacrafice a normal life or the life of a hero.I'm stickin wit the hero if he's is to leave to train,lana would never let him go but chloe tho she luvs him knows he has 2.And I think by then he'll understand the diff that was put infront of him tonight later on.
Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Hmmmm, I simply can't get over the fact that Clark told Chloe he is still in love with Lana. After 6 years... No, she does not deserve that. He's an a$$...
He didnt say hes IN LOVE with Lana he says he "loves" Lana....he loves Chloe too, big deal :lol: And either way his voice was wary like hes gettingsick of his Lanaizing and want to move on to sumone who's always been there for him. Sumone like...."oh wait she has a boyfriend!"
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
He didnt say hes IN LOVE with Lana he says he "loves" Lana....he loves Chloe too, big deal :lol: And either way his voice was wary like hes gettingsick of his Lanaizing and want to move on to sumone who's always been there for him. Sumone like...."oh wait she has a boyfriend!"
Oh yeah, and next week Kal tells Lana to marry him.
Gimme a break...
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Hmmmm, I simply can't get over the fact that Clark told Chloe he is still in love with Lana. After 6 years... No, she does not deserve that. He's an a$$...
True he shouldn't have told her that but rewatch tho,he says he thought he WAS over her.So its obvious he is confused he knows he feels sumthin and since the last thing he felt was luv he said it,but even he didn't sound 2 convincin he sound confused.After what he saw he still didn't kno what to believe remember a zoner took over his mind jus like splinter he doesn't kno what was caused off the zoner or what he knows in his mind.So I dont mind him bein confused now if he would have said he luved her without thinkin he was over her first then I'd agree he's an ass.But since he jus went thru alot and was confused and sittin wit sumone he thinks is over him I can accept his comments.Hard to swallow yes but he didn't seem like he was sure he knew this still,so I cut him alil slack not much but sum for atleast makin note that he tried movin on.Thats why I think her knowledge of the secret will make it alil clearer to him,once he see her actin sort of like the AU lana did wit not acceptin who he is as a hero then he'll makeup his mind.
Originally posted by BadToad
I don't 'ship, so I'm putting that to the side...
But I really did like the Chlark scenes in front of the fire. I'm not reading anything more into it than what was there, and I just appreciate how the 2 of them are around each other. I love the fact that they communicate. Even if I do think its probably hard for Chloe to hear Clark still loves Lana on some level, a good friend is there to listen. And she does. And I think Clark is absolutely sincere when he mentions how much she means to him. I loved how he didn't tell her the reality of the dream, but instead let her believe she was a pulitzer prize winning journalist or the like. I think it says a lot that Chloe dying in his AU seemed to break him. I also think it speaks a lot about the depth of their relationship that its Chloe that he followed in the AU, and it was Chloe that believed in him.
So, pfft on 'ships, not getting into that. But once again, I'm reminded why I love TW and AM in scenes together, and why I value the Chlark friendship so much. IMO
I agree, whether you take them as friends or as potential lovers, it is a pleasure to watch these two interact. They support each other, they praise each other, and they know how to fight and make up. No other couple on the show has that kind of give and take.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
True he shouldn't have told her that but rewatch tho,he says he thought he WAS over her.
BUT HE ISN'T!!!
Didn't you see it???
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.
My heart stopped for a second right there...
Three letters:
BDA
Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
BUT HE ISN'T!!!
Didn't you see it???
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.
My heart stopped for a second right there...
Three letters:
BDA
But hes GETTING over her, and thats the point.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
But hes GETTING over her, and thats the point.
Don't get me wrong: I wanna believe you...
Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 12:47 AM
Then do bc he has no other choice!:lol: Besides Chloe is ILL...this episode proved it, so......its flip time, after crimson Chloe will have the power in the relationship and Clark has to work to get her back, while Lana starts pining for Clark :rolleyes: ...theyre all going into their Superman roles now.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 12:48 AM
I just have trouble believing you guys why he'd go after Chloe now... After 6 years, he still loves Lana.
I see no development.
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
He didnt say hes IN LOVE with Lana he says he "loves" Lana....he loves Chloe too, big deal :lol: And either way his voice was wary like hes gettingsick of his Lanaizing and want to move on to sumone who's always been there for him. Sumone like...."oh wait she has a boyfriend!"
True he says he still luvs her which isn't the same as bein in luv wit her ur right.We kno he'll always care for lana infact if he didn't we'd be suprise after 5 yrs of off and on,so his words didn't upset me much.Espcially when he hisself cant believe he still feels that way,imo its him realizin he isn't in luv wit her but cant deny she still effect him in sum form.Which he'll get over later this season once she learns the secret and tries to get wit him after all thats happen.He knows romantically they aren't meant to be and her comin after him jus cause she knows the secret/possibly not wantin him to accept his destiny will be a clearer sign to him.Tonight was jus a setup of him finally gettin over him sidin wit lana over everyone/everything else.And I agree his comments to chloe were to say he luvs her 2 but cant quite say it when she's datin and possibly moved on in his mind.So his comments to her were a start and his comments about lana was about clana comin to an end atleast on clark's side.He's always chased her but now its her turn to chase him while he chases chloe to fix the mess he'll make next week.But ur right he jus says he still luvs her,not in luv wit so there is no indication he wants to take her from lex now.Thats why I think ILWC needs to rewatch the epi,once he heard clark say he still luved lana his fear of AlMiles obsession kicked in,but ya gotta look again its not what u think :D
Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
I just have trouble believing you guys why he'd go after Chloe now... After 6 years, he still loves Lana.
I see no development.
Clark has always loved both Chloe AND Lana....its been like that since season 1....as for development...ahem...in vessel HE KISSED BACK. Now thats development. And Labyrinth...yeah its obvious his feelings are changing.
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
BUT HE ISN'T!!!
Didn't you see it???
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.
My heart stopped for a second right there...
Three letters:
BDA
he thought he was intil this dream,all he realize was wit her not knowin he doesn't kno for sure if she would accept him.He knows chloe will,but doesn't kno if goin after chloe would be jus settlin.So he has to have it confirm that lana would either accept him or not,jus like splinter he doesn't kno what the phantom cause or he caused.So its understandable he has doubts,he thought that the hydro events made him move on,which I think he has.But he definitely still luvs her,thats expected the only prob is he needs to realize he cant be wit her not because of her safety but because she'll never accept him bein a hero to the world.He needs to see for himself that lana is only concern wit clana not humanity where as chloe knows she has to share him.Thats why her learnin he's diff/the secret next week will setup what we saw in the dream that lana wants clana together no secrets/no destiny jus them.But clark will realize that's not what he's there for,he's there to be a protector/savior not givin up everything for 1 girl.She has to learn the secret in order for the events in lab to sort of cometrue and he realize he is over her fo real.Right now he isn't sure which is fine but once she knows the secret/wants more wit clark and he makes comments like these then we worry.Til then its jus a setup of him pickin the world over her,which in the dream she was tryin to coach him into pickin her(Even AU chloe thought he'd pick lana).So clark has to prove alot because of the comments he made to chloe who will be effected the most next week,and off what he said tonight he'll definitely have to try hard to convince her.
Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
he thought he was intil this dream,all he realize was wit her not knowin he doesn't kno for sure if she would accept him.He knows chloe will,but doesn't kno if goin after chloe would be jus settlin.So he has to have it confirm that lana would either accept him or not,jus like splinter he doesn't kno what the phantom cause or he caused.So its understandable he has doubts,he thought that the hydro events made him move on,which I think he has.But he definitely still luvs her,thats expected the only prob is he needs to realize he cant be wit her not because of her safety but because she'll never accept him bein a hero to the world.He needs to see for himself that lana is only concern wit clana not humanity where as chloe knows she has to share him.Thats why her learnin he's diff/the secret next week will setup what we saw in the dream that lana wants clana together no secrets/no destiny jus them.But clark will realize that's not what he's there for,he's there to be a protector/savior not givin up everything for 1 girl.She has to learn the secret in order for the events in lab to sort of cometrue and he realize he is over her fo real.Right now he isn't sure which is fine but once she knows the secret/wants more wit clark and he makes comments like these then we worry.Til then its jus a setup of him pickin the world over her,which in the dream she was tryin to coach him into pickin her(Even AU chloe thought he'd pick lana).So clark has to prove alot because of the comments he made to chloe who will be effected the most next week,and off what he said tonight he'll definitely have to try hard to convince her.
Agree. Clark can be a little BDA though...perhaps hes trying to get Chloe a little jealous so she'll come back to the Chlark side. :lol:
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 01:01 AM
Let's hope DMA is right...
Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Let's hope DMA is right...
Hey guess what....this apparently means that annual Chlark kiss is REAL WORLD. perhaps before little BDA goes off for his training....and uh fly back to her :lol:
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
Clark has always loved both Chloe AND Lana....its been like that since season 1....as for development...ahem...in vessel HE KISSED BACK. Now thats development. And Labyrinth...yeah its obvious his feelings are changing.
I agree I think he's always luved both but is now realize that he luved them for diff reasons,and that his luv for lana is the past.He cares for her yes but she is not his end point and all the sacrafices he made for her maynot have been all worth it.And the sacrafices she's askin him to make after she learns the secret(Givin clana a chance again)will be to reassure what he found out in the AU that clana can never be.She wants clana,clark wants to help the world once he establish what in the AU was the phantoms doin and his mind then he'll move on.Right now he's jus confused which is why tptb r stretchin out his choice til the finale.I agree its development cause before now he would have chosen lana no hesitation,but now he's torn.Cause tho lana was his past luv,chloe seems to be the closes to him and he cherish her jus doesn't show it sumtimes :mad: .But now its a choice lana wont accept him like he always figure she wouldn't,and chloe is always there but at sum point he'll effect that even.So its more so about clark savin what he knows is right which is chlark and acceptin his destiny.Chloe use to say all the time how whenever its sumthin wit lana(Or lex back in the day)clark would ignore the rest of the world well tonight it was obvious he is changin.Lana doesn't have the same effect on him as before now he is rethinkin things.But is takin his time and it'll cause trouble wit chlark and he'll have to speed the process up so havin lana learn the secret the same epi he insults chloe is tellin.Cause while chloe is processin her feelings for clark lana will be tryin to get clarks attention again,and wit clark confused he can cause chloe to back off,while gettin lana to comeon to him strong.But for diff reasons so he'll have to choose whats more important bein wit lana jus cause she knows the secret now(Which is the same for chloe if lana never learns jus a default choice)or savin whatever he has buildin up for chloe.Its a clear setup imo
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
Its a clear setup imo
:\
WriteAngel1
01-26-2007, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Let's hope DMA is right...
At least Im not alone in my thinking that is pretty much clear that on Clarks part, he feels nothing for her compared to his love for lana. And unfortunately we will have to deal with Chloe re-evaluating her feelings....which would appear to end favorably (as in not interested, stays with Jimmy) but maybe not...:( (then we are stuck with longing Chloe again and I dont think I can take that.)
MsSullivan
01-26-2007, 01:07 AM
The hug was perefect :) I want chlark now more then ever.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by WriteAngel1
(then we are stuck with longing Chloe again and I dont think I can take that.)
No one can, trust me...
Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 01:08 AM
Nope. AM said Chloes PINING is done. Jimmy is leaving in three episodes. Sure she still feels for Clark, but shes not gonna show it....she also said Clark get to pine for her for awhile...SO HA! :lol:
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Let's hope DMA is right...
Come on wit my track record this season is there really any doubts :D :lol: naw jus kiddin.But wit his comments in fallout and him still searchin for zoners in Justice(And his last comments to why he stayed)I do think he'll go off to train in the finale.But we saw tonight that lana wouldn't accept his destiny meanin if she learns the secret next week and tries to get clark back for the rest of the season(We kno he'll stay single but I do expect his feelings to become known before he goes)he'll have to turn her down in order to go train.So no worries if he's meant to leave to train then clana isn't meant to be,cause if so he'd never leave her side.But I think tonight was him slowly realizin he cant stay wit her
Originally posted by Lostfan588
Hey guess what....this apparently means that annual Chlark kiss is REAL WORLD. perhaps before little BDA goes off for his training....and uh fly back to her :lol:
I kept sayin wit the way tptb r buildin up the chlark tension(Him not tellin of his trainin,breakin up chlimmy etc)that they'll have a big moment right before he leaves to train.And thats when I was expectin a kiss everyone else talked me into thinkin it was lab,which no girl got kissed :mad: (Sum spoiler :mad: ).But Even if he did kiss her tonight I was still stickin wit a season finale kiss,and after tonight I definitely believe we'll get 1 before he leaves.But we'll see
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
Come on wit my track record this season is there really any doubts :D :lol: naw jus kiddin.But wit his comments in fallout and him still searchin for zoners in Justice(And his last comments to why he stayed)I do think he'll go off to train in the finale.But we saw tonight that lana wouldn't accept his destiny meanin if she learns the secret next week and tries to get clark back for the rest of the season(We kno he'll stay single but I do expect his feelings to become known before he goes)he'll have to turn her down in order to go train.So no worries if he's meant to leave to train then clana isn't meant to be,cause if so he'd never leave her side.But I think tonight was him slowly realizin he cant stay wit her
After today I simply don't know what to believe anymore...
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by WriteAngel1
At least Im not alone in my thinking that is pretty much clear that on Clarks part, he feels nothing for her compared to his love for lana. And unfortunately we will have to deal with Chloe re-evaluating her feelings....which would appear to end favorably (as in not interested, stays with Jimmy) but maybe not...:( (then we are stuck with longing Chloe again and I dont think I can take that.)
Thats the thing clark will cause chloe to re-evalute her feelings because he is willing to give up everythin for lana.So she starts to rethink is it worth her givin up everythin for him if he wont do the same for her,they r bestfriends that been thru alot so she'd expect him to not give everything up jus to be wit lana.So first jimmy pushes her to process her feelings for clark in tresspass,I'm guessin she decides she still luvs clark and then finds out lana knows the secret.And thinks clark will chase lana so she re-evaluate her situation as well,but her denial is because clark pushes her away(Like he said thats 1 of his hidden talents).But I do expect clark to see chloe pullback and realize what she said in the dream that he always chooses lana and then he'll try to save what he has wit chloe.I wouldn't get worried jus yet of no chlark intil lana knows the secret and clark shows interest then.But I'm hopin chlark's friendship/possible romantic ship and his destiny is more important than livin a normal life wit lana.So no worries imo intil lana knows the truth and clark is still willing to give it a chance.Cause lana can want clana back all she wants but if clark has doubts I'm satisfied cause chloe will make his decision easier on him.But its up to him to chose if thats what he wants(lana/normal life)or try to fix his mess(Chlark,his destiny etc).
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
After today I simply don't know what to believe anymore...
:lol: u sure tha phantom isn't in ur head u sound like clark :lol: .I think that was the point of the dream,jus like splinter to keep us and clark guessin what was real from the phantom and what clark truly feels in his head.Thats why intil lana knows the truth its easy to get afraid of clana's return but once she knows and wants more then clark can truly make a decision to move on.And no girl(Chloe/Lois)would be a default to lana by then cause then he'll have no excuses for not movin on
WriteAngel1
01-26-2007, 01:25 AM
You have some good ideas D.M.A. , but honestly im just sick and tired of the whole run around. I am just ready for clark to move on - regardless of a chlark relationship....watching the show has become a chore and a tedious one at that. :(
I am very upset with tptb.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by WriteAngel1
You have some good ideas D.M.A. , but honestly im just sick and tired of the whole run around. I am just ready for clark to move on - regardless of a chlark relationship....watching the show has become a chore and a tedious one at that. :(
I am very upset with tptb.
That's my point, yes.
I am tired.
Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 01:31 AM
Your too pessimistic....this is actually one of my favorite episodes EVER. The foreshadowing (ahem Chlois and Chlark) was amazing and the symbolism so obvious, down to the costumes! I mean even Lana was wearing Mrs Luthors CLOTHES and HAIR from the dream at the end...and Chloe was in LANAS spot at the Talon, where Clark came TO HER and chose HER OVER BEING WITH LANA. And Lana was moping at a telescope....I mean my god how much more symbolic can it get :lol: ???
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
....I mean my god how much more symbolic can it get :lol: ???
Quite a few scenarios come to mind, actually...
WriteAngel1
01-26-2007, 01:34 AM
Maybe we are a little too pessimistic but being a positive chlarker is being glutton for punishment and honestly Ive had enough of that. AlMiles will string us along until the end when they undoubtly kill chloe off after giving a hint of a chlark romance....
Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Quite a few scenarios come to mind, actually...
yeah like season 2 premiere after the Chlark friendship talk, Chloe leaning up against a tree w a redsuitcase (Clark) stuck btw 2 branches (Chloe and Lana), Chloes tree saying "soulmates" and the one where Clark was standing "Live for that boy." and "A/T".....what can be more symbolic than THAT :rotfl: .....its the truth!
WriteAngel1
01-26-2007, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by Lostfan588
yeah like season 2 premiere after the Chlark friendship talk, Chloe leaning up against a tree w a redsuitcase (Clark) stuck btw 2 branches (Chloe and Lana), Chloes tree saying "soulmates" and the one where Clark was standing "Live for that boy." and "A/T".....what can be more symbolic than THAT :rotfl: .....its the truth!
What are you talking about???? :eek: oooookay.....:\
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by WriteAngel1
Maybe we are a little too pessimistic but being a positive chlarker is being glutton for punishment and honestly Ive had enough of that. AlMiles will string us along until the end when they undoubtly kill chloe off after giving a hint of a chlark romance.... :(
Lostfan588
01-26-2007, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by WriteAngel1
What are you talking about???? :eek: oooookay.....:\
What you dont believe me? I can get you a screencap if you want! Its in plain sight! :eek:
WriteAngel1
01-26-2007, 01:42 AM
Nah, Im not in the mood for a chlois discussion right now but feel free to pm me the pic, if you like.
Ok, InlovewithChloe - you have to cheer me up.....
god! where is a nospam poll when you need it????
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by WriteAngel1
You have some good ideas D.M.A. , but honestly im just sick and tired of the whole run around. I am just ready for clark to move on - regardless of a chlark relationship....watching the show has become a chore and a tedious one at that. :(
I am very upset with tptb.
O trust we all r,but tptb r playin it safe when they shot this they didn't kno if a s7 was garunteed.I think after last weeks success it prob is,so they'll have clark move on before the season ends and before he trains so he can comeback next season and move to his iconic self.Yet oliver is already gone(Lois doesn't have many more epi's to appear in),jimmy is gone in 3 more epi(Leavin what 7 more new ones)so they need to build on clexana/chlarkana til the end since those r the only 4 in every epi.Yes I agree clark should makeup his mind but once lana learns the secret then clark can make a choice and stick wit it,cause he'll kno for certain how lana will accept him(Which she wont so he'll move on).
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by WriteAngel1
Ok, InlovewithChloe - you have to cheer me up.....
Well, the fireplace scene was quite cute. I guess we can build on that...
<sigh.>
If only he hadn't said that about Lana...
<gags.>
Sorry.
Originally posted by WriteAngel1
god! where is a nospam poll when you need it????
Yeah, I was so negative today, I might have killed Jeremy's motivation...
;)
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Quite a few scenarios come to mind, actually...
:lol: yea I think ILWC is so scared of AlMiles clana obsession that no matter what we say he's goin to be nervous.I dont blame u tho,like I said once she learns the truth and clark says the exact same then(He still luvs her)then we got probs.Til then no worries tptb luv tension and they kno it makes us luv or hate it yet it keeps us talkin/speculatin so no givin up jus yet.Like I said next week should seem worse to u than tonight but u gotta be patient alil longer :D
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 01:46 AM
Right there in front of the fireplace - he should have kissed Chloe.
No discussion.
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Well, the fireplace scene was quite cute. I guess we can build on that...
<sigh.>
If only he hadn't said that about Lana...
<gags.>
Sorry.
yea it was sweet and tho that lana line was ruinin a good chlark moment it jus shows in both the AU and RW that chlarkana will be an issue later(Which explains chloe's expression)
WriteAngel1
01-26-2007, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Well, the fireplace scene was quite cute. I guess we can build on that...
<sigh.>
If only he hadn't said that about Lana...
<gags.>
Sorry.
Yeah, I was so negative today, I might have killed Jeremy's motivation...
;)
Yeah, it was a good scene.....full of chlarky goodness :D, until he mentioned she-who-must-not-be-named! :mad: ah well, up until the end it was a good chlark episode.
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Yeah, I was so negative today, I might have killed Jeremy's motivation...
;)
hey for a moment there u and myankskents almost had me and I already figure it would play out similar.U kno this,I been callin it for awhile,so its sad when u even got me 2nd guessin for a sec.But luckily it was jus a sec,now if I can get ur hopes backup we'd be doin good :lol: :D
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
(Which explains chloe's expression)
Yeah, she still loves him.
At least that didn't change...
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Right there in front of the fireplace - he should have kissed Chloe.
No discussion.
O trust I definitely agree,espcially after what he said to her and her smilin.He should have jus done it,I dont even think she would have mind or reminded him of jimmy either.The moment was sweet and should have ended wit a kiss but hey that's tptb for u,they give us alil but not enough :mad:
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
hey for a moment there u and myankskents almost had me and I already figure it would play out similar.U kno this,I been callin it for awhile,so its sad when u even got me 2nd guessin for a sec.But luckily it was jus a sec,now if I can get ur hopes backup we'd be doin good :lol: :D
Man, I am sorry for making you doubt.
Won't happen again, promised.
:)
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Yeah, she still loves him.
At least that didn't change...
And it wont,its jus his decisions to let lana tag him along wit wantin him after lex will make chloe go into denial.She doesn't believe in RW or AU that clark could choose her over lana,and at sum point(I'm guessin between Tresspass-Promise)she'll see sumthin to make her believe its true.And try to backoff but if clark thinks she's gettin the wrong impression or he isn't quite sure then he'll try to make it up to her but it wont be easy and I dont expect it 2 be after tellin chloe he still luvs lana.He needs to do more than say he likes chloe later on,and I expect he will it'll jus take time.Lana must first know the truth in order for him to pass on clana and chloe not be by default.Many can argue that he was quick to save their friendship in s2 cause whitney was out of the pic but now he has no excuses once lana knows he can truthfully turn her down and chase chloe.
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Man, I am sorry for making you doubt.
Won't happen again, promised.
:)
:D
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
O trust I definitely agree,espcially after what he said to her and her smilin.He should have jus done it,I dont even think she would have mind or reminded him of jimmy either.The moment was sweet and should have ended wit a kiss but hey that's tptb for u,they give us alil but not enough :mad:
Do you think they might have been planning a Chlark kiss but then chickened out? I mean, the spoilers clearly announced a kiss...
:confused:
D.M.A.
01-26-2007, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Do you think they might have been planning a Chlark kiss but then chickened out? I mean, the spoilers clearly announced a kiss...
:confused:
Maybe,I kno from the Phil Morris interview on the homepg he speaks on MM explainin the oreos tonight and that didn't happen.Plus there was a pick of MM handin clark sumthin and clark not wearin his jacket so its obvious sum things had been cut.So aint no tellin what,it could have been guess we wont kno til the DVD comes out :rolleyes: .But the chlark convo by the fireplace definitely gave me the impression he was goin to kiss her(Whether he said he luved lana or not).So I'm suprise no kiss was in the epi
Atomic girl
01-26-2007, 03:03 AM
Wow after reading all your comments, I just had to add my two cents worth. I think I looked at things from Chloe's perspective in that last conversation by the fire. I think she lost a little heart, and she couldn't read Clark. When he said he cared about her more than she knew, I kept thinking, Chloe was thinking like a sister, not like a gf. I think Clark was hinting at gf, but Chloe didn't see it that way, but did believe they have a special relationship.
Clark being Clark would not attempt to break up her and Jimmy, even if he's not happy about the situation, and I'm not sure that Chloe sees that in Clark, she sees Clark indifferent to a romantic relationship.
Chiriru
01-26-2007, 03:16 AM
We got the Solitude scene reversed and Clark saying the same line to Chloe that Lex said to Lana in Commencement. I think that's pretty noteworthy in terms of setting up buiding blocks for the future.
But my favorite part for Chlark tonight was the grin when she saved him. Awh.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 03:33 AM
Originally posted by Chiriru
But my favorite part for Chlark tonight was the grin when she saved him. Awh.
In her car, at the beginning?
That was hot, yes...
Chiriru
01-26-2007, 04:19 AM
In her car, at the beginning?
That was hot, yes...
Her entire reintroduction to Clark was great; and the parallelism between them was top notch.
Clark and Chloe are 'crazy' for being their 'normal' selves - Clark a superhero to save the world, Chloe a journalist for the Planet. Just like Lexmas where they were both doing exposes, together. (Lex is kind of a flip to both of these in Lexmas (poor) and in Lab (rich but dehbilitated)).
She shows up up to save him - and heh, is it hot? I don't know but the smile got to me. My brother said "Where is Chloe when you need her?" about thirty seconds before she showed up. Almost like dream Clark conjured up the one person who could help him out. Without her, he gave up (and MM had to pop in there).
But that inital drive up scene - I don't think we've seen anything that cute for Chlark all year.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 04:54 AM
Originally posted by Chiriru
My brother said "Where is Chloe when you need her?" about thirty seconds before she showed up.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Yeah, she's really reliable, isn't she...?
Ah, good-old Chloe...
ChlarkMe
01-26-2007, 05:36 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
That's my point, yes.
I am tired.
Clana is tiring definately. I think there are many of us that feel that way. Unfortunately I think we're going to see Clana hanging around a bit longer.
I see Lana as Clarks past holding him back in an emotional sense and is a parllell to the Zoner's holding him back from his training. I do think that Clarks training will be the turning point. That's when he will truly let go of his past (Lana) and move to his future and even though it pains me to see Clana it's almost fitting that once he takes that special step forward his past will no longer hold him back.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 05:42 AM
Originally posted by ChlarkMe
I see Lana as Clarks past holding him back in an emotional sense and is a parllell to the Zoner's holding him back from his training. I do think that Clarks training will be the turning point. That's when he will truly let go of his past (Lana) and move to his future and even though it pains me to see Clana it's almost fitting that once he takes that special step forward his past will no longer hold him back.
Yeah, but it's starting to annoy me to watch a TV show in which future superman gets HELD BACK for over 6 years...
:mad:
ChlarkMe
01-26-2007, 05:45 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Yeah, but it's starting to annoy me to watch a TV show in which future superman gets HELD BACK for over 6 years...
:mad:
I know. It's like all Chlarkers have to endure the same level of pain as Chloe. Next weeks going to be rough too, I'm not sure I'll be able to watch. My pain threshold has really spiked, but I have hope for the future. If Chloe can do it so can I.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 06:16 AM
Originally posted by ChlarkMe
I know. It's like all Chlarkers have to endure the same level of pain as Chloe. Next weeks going to be rough too, I'm not sure I'll be able to watch. My pain threshold has really spiked, but I have hope for the future.
Yeah, next week promises to be even worse...
Clana + Clois = puke.
:mad:
Krypto/DQ/
01-26-2007, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Right there in front of the fireplace - he should have kissed Chloe.
No discussion.
Absolutly.
meteor_phreak
01-26-2007, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Right there in front of the fireplace - he should have kissed Chloe.
No discussion. True story.
I was soooooo disheartened when he brought up his love for lana. for cryin out loud, if you're gonna be that dumb and blind at least keep it to yourself. if you need to talk about it, go talk to mama kent, not chloe.
The only thing about clana, or clexana, in this episode, at least there was no whining. no unnecessary angst. everyone was civil, so even though the only thing i hate more than clana is lexana, at least i didn't have to break another remote throwing it at the tv.(am i the only one here thankful my TV is more durable than my remotes?)
Rhoda123
01-26-2007, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
Maybe,I kno from the Phil Morris interview on the homepg he speaks on MM explainin the oreos tonight and that didn't happen.Plus there was a pick of MM handin clark sumthin and clark not wearin his jacket so its obvious sum things had been cut.So aint no tellin what,it could have been guess we wont kno til the DVD comes out :rolleyes: .But the chlark convo by the fireplace definitely gave me the impression he was goin to kiss her(Whether he said he luved lana or not).So I'm suprise no kiss was in the epi
I was holding my breath during that whole scene thinking that it had to be a kiss between Chlark and then, of course, my hope was crushed onceafreakingain by TPTB... I'm so sick of it!
Originally posted by meteor_phreak
True story.
I was soooooo disheartened when he brought up his love for lana. for cryin out loud, if you're gonna be that dumb and blind at least keep it to yourself. if you need to talk about it, go talk to mama kent, not chloe.
The only thing about clana, or clexana, in this episode, at least there was no whining. no unnecessary angst. everyone was civil, so even though the only thing i hate more than clana is lexana, at least i didn't have to break another remote throwing it at the tv.(am i the only one here thankful my TV is more durable than my remotes?)
If they bring back the Clana angst, I don't know that I can take it guys... I'm disgusted with being hurt by TPTB.
Khyla
01-26-2007, 07:43 AM
repost:
i HATE tptb!!! When the HELL are they going to let Clark grow up and be a friggin' MAN!
This looney-tune-Lana-love has got to stop!
He should have then and there in Chloe's arms relaized that she is the ONE! he shlould have kissed her.
Where the HELL was the KISS we kept hearing about anyway????
This is BULLSH*T !
I don't think I can watch anymore!!!
i'm just too sick of it!
kkjdt
01-26-2007, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Yeah, next week promises to be even worse...
Clana + Clois = puke.
:mad:
Yeah I know.......umm where shall I go ... what shall I do so I don't have to endure that ...........:rolleyes: :lol:
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by meteor_phreak
I was soooooo disheartened when he brought up his love for lana. for cryin out loud, if you're gonna be that dumb and blind at least keep it to yourself. if you need to talk about it, go talk to mama kent, not chloe.
Very, very true.
Rhoda123
01-26-2007, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by Khyla
repost:
i HATE tptb!!! When the HELL are they going to let Clark grow up and be a friggin' MAN!
This looney-tune-Lana-love has got to stop!
He should have then and there in Chloe's arms relaized that she is the ONE! he shlould have kissed her.
Where the HELL was the KISS we kept hearing about anyway????
This is BULLSH*T !
I don't think I can watch anymore!!!
i'm just too sick of it!
I'm completely with you.. .it is complete and total BULLSH*T.. I'm sick of it too.. I can't take it anymore.. I really can't..
jimmyolsenblues
01-26-2007, 07:48 AM
did you watch chloe's face when clark's says I still love her.
I am tired of being hurt everytime chloe gets her heart broken.
Get this girl someone who is not in love with lana, asap.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by Rhoda123
I was holding my breath during that whole scene thinking that it had to be a kiss between Chlark and then...
Oh, me too. Me too.
:(
Originally posted by Khyla
When the HELL are they going to let Clark grow up and be a friggin' MAN!
Tell him, Khyla!!!
:mad:
Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
did you watch chloe's face when clark's says I still love her.
I am tired of being hurt everytime chloe gets her heart broken.
Get this girl someone who is not in love with lana, asap.
Clark...does...not...deserve...Chloe.
Period.
superpal1
01-26-2007, 07:53 AM
Clark may not love Chloe like he does Lana, but he does tell how much she means to him in his life. I agree, Clark needs to get his act together and GET OVER LANA, but even if he does, I don't think a Chloe relationship is the way to go. He doesn't feel that way about her and that is fine. We don't always have those feelings for those people who have them for us.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 07:54 AM
...that's why Chloe should have punched him right in his $tupid face. There...
Rhoda123
01-26-2007, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
...that's why Chloe should have punched him right in his $tupid face. There...
Heck yeah she should have.. he is an idiot.. right at this point, I have no repsect for Clark because he has no respect for himself.. get over Lana.. she ain't all that.. JEEZZZZZ!!
Phantazma
01-26-2007, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Clark...does...not...deserve...Chloe.
Period.
I couldn't agree more. Chloe deserves a real man instead of that emotional cripple she selflessly cares for.
margroks
01-26-2007, 08:03 AM
The real, honest relationship in this show has always been Chlark. It's the only one that makes sense, it's the only one that gives us a grown up Clark who accepts himself and his destiny. That's what Chloe symbolizes and Chloe is the diametric opposite of Lana who holds Clark back No more Lana.
InLove_with_Chloe
01-26-2007, 08:03 AM
I can't even be mad at Lana. It's all Clark...It's always been.
aqgalaxy
01-26-2007, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
Get this girl someone who is not in love with lana, asap.
Hey don't forget, she has a man who loves her Jimmy (I know she can do so much better but at least she is getting some loving) I sware if she was single and he said that, it would have hurt her more. But what would suck is that Clark is the one who forces Jimmy to break up with her and that is what pisses me off.
You know Clark is to Chloe as Lana is to Clark, they keep toying each other.
Clana always had this yo yo thing. And I am sorry but Chlark has it too. Clark dingles the "It could be possible I feel more then just friendship with you" in her face to give her hope and then yanks it away cause of frigging Lana.
Why does he toy with Chloe cause he can't do sh!t without his search engine.
meteor_phreak
01-26-2007, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Clark...does...not...deserve...Chloe.
Period. He doesn't. I am a chlarker, but only because I'm such a chloe fan and that's what it looked like she wanted. but she soooooo deserves someone better than this.
Why does he toy with Chloe cause he can't do sh!t without his search engine. i don't think he's doing it on purpose, i think he really is that relationship-stupid. i see it as the way lana showed something for lex to the camera before she saw it herself, clark has something for chloe before he sees it. but man, i would love for him to spend the rest of the series chasing her for a change...
meggy
01-26-2007, 09:04 AM
Khyla, i coudn't have screamed it better! ILWC, i agree completely with your mathematical equation:
Clana + Clois=Puke...if I can add my own thought: Clana+Clois=puke, stomach pain, indigestion, constipation, sore runny eyes (from all the puking), headahces...and a BIG bucket while I let it all out.....
dont know how i am going to stomach Crimson
mcgairman
01-26-2007, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Oh, me too. Me too.
:(
Tell him, Khyla!!!
:mad:
Clark...does...not...deserve...Chloe.
Period.
I have to agree. Clark is a dunce. The EDLois is not worthy of his attention, now or in the future. Lana is still an evil "you know what" for taking riches over love, and HE can't see that the one person who truly cares about him was right there in front of him!! Argggghhhhh!!!
aqgalaxy
01-26-2007, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by meteor_phreak
i don't think he's doing it on purpose, i think he really is that relationship-stupid. i see it as the way lana showed something for lex to the camera before she saw it herself, clark has something for chloe before he sees it. but man, i would love for him to spend the rest of the series chasing her for a change...
I am just upset when I typed the searche engine crap. To me Chloe doesn't deserved to feel second to Lana... and that is all she will ever feel if he continues to be Lana love sick
ILwC is right, Chloe deserves way better then Clark... More sexy and better who loves her completely... yeah
chlarkfan333
01-26-2007, 09:46 AM
Wow, Chlark yesterday was everything I had ever wanted to see. :D I never expected there to be a kiss, so I wasn't the disappointed. The only thing that cast a shadow over the episode as a whole, was Clark's declaration that he still loves Lana followed by the preview for Crimson in which we all know what he says to Lana.:rolleyes: THAT makes me want to smack him on the head.
Anyways, back to Chlark. As I said - I think it was perfect and not overdone. His realisation that she was dead was one of the most heartbreaking scenes I have seen in a long time on SV. That said, I saw no romantic Chlark in this episode. I did however, and I cannot believe I am going to say this, see a set-up for a choice b/w Chloe and Lana. I am frankly, still a little disbelieving of that.
ms.c.
01-26-2007, 11:15 AM
The whole episode was set up as a choice between Chlark and Clana. I can't believe Clark hesitated like that to decide before going after Chloe. He waited too long and that's why she ended up getting shot. Clark looked really weak in this episode. Although I did like how he basically gave up after Chloe died. I don't know how real Clark didn't get it and thought the dream was about how he loves Lana. It was about how Lana makes him weak.
Rhoda123
01-26-2007, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by ms.c.
The whole episode was set up as a choice between Chlark and Clana. I can't believe Clark hesitated like that to decide before going after Chloe. He waited too long and that's why she ended up getting shot. Clark looked really weak in this episode. Although I did like how he basically gave up after Chloe died. I don't know how real Clark didn't get it and thought the dream was about how he loves Lana. It was about how Lana makes him weak.
You absolutely hit the nail on the head.. when he is with Lana, he is a weak man.. Chloe gives him strength.. God, he is so damn dumb!!!!!
TheoristMaximus
01-26-2007, 11:38 AM
I got a total Chlark vibe from this episode.
He says he ALMOST gave up everyone and everything he cares about to be with Lana.
Think about that, who does he care about aside from Lana?
Martha and Chloe.
They won out, he DID NOT give everything up for Lana, he chose Martha and Chloe over Lana.
I think this might be the first time ever in Clark's character he has NOT sided with a normal life with Lana.
And the words "You mean a lot more to me then you know." I MEAN CMON!
For the first time I see Chlark as LIKELY!
cotton candy girl
01-26-2007, 11:42 AM
It wasn't really Lana, and he realized that, but he also realized he still loved her.
Atomic girl
01-26-2007, 04:14 PM
Wow I left the episode feeling like all Chlark was dead. But after reading all the comments and watching the episode again, I have come to some other conclusions.
First of all I always thought Clark was being respectful of Chloe with Jimmy, but now I think he's worried about putting Chloe in danger. The way he told Chloe that she means more to him than she knows, just sort of gave me a vibe of ultimate caring for Chloe, not indifference, or even waiting for her. I took it as I'd do something about these feelings, but I can't I'm Clark.
And something I overlooked in the dream sequence (the first time) was he was willing to give it all up for Lana in a world where he had no power, so no danger to Lana and Chloe had been killed. The temptation in the dream sequence wasn't really like real life, but did point out that he still had feelings for Lana that he tried to bury, just like Chloe has in previous seasons, with her love of Clark.
While TPTB set in motion maybe two love triangles, it will be interesting to see them resolved.
As a side note, I still believe it would be a mistake to have Lana learn the secret and retain that knowledge. Some have said it would put Chloe and Lana on a level playing field, but we saw a taste of that in Reckoning, the field was level for a bit and Clark decided not to go that way again.
Anyway, my two cents worth.
Brian Vash Ashby
01-26-2007, 05:13 PM
I never understood the notion that people believe Clark doesnt dig Chloe. It seems to me to be there obviously, if under a mountain of Clana horse crap.
Look at the season 5 ending kiss thing. As the phone rings he stops, looks at the phone, and looks back. Its like part of him clearly wants to stay right there. Plus there is some definite jealous stuff, etc.
I think the main reason he is so reluctant to go there is because Chloe has been a friend. Lana wasnt a friend. Alicia wasnt a friend.
With the Clana breakup he seems to sense a feeling of loss and i think that fear of losing Chloe as a friend is so dreadful an idea that he is somewhat gutless to take the risk. At the beginning of Season 2 he jumped back to that friend thing so quick because he though Chloe meant it, and because it was a safe choice.
This series seems to be all about Clark moving farther and farther away from safe choices and more towards the right choices. Chloe=right choice.
Also i always suspect some other levels of hesitancy because he knows he still cares for that she-witch Lana and doesnt want to burden any other potential relationships with the baggage.
I cant see how thematically they would pass the Chlark up. The narrative flow makes Chlark the only logical choice. Lois is basically background noise right now, and rightly so. I really cant fathom how a professional writer would turn that story down
Maryliz48
01-26-2007, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Brian Vash Ashby
I never understood the notion that people believe Clark doesnt dig Chloe. It seems to me to be there obviously, if under a mountain of Clana horse crap.
Look at the season 5 ending kiss thing. As the phone rings he stops, looks at the phone, and looks back. Its like part of him clearly wants to stay right there. Plus there is some definite jealous stuff, etc.
I think the main reason he is so reluctant to go there is because Chloe has been a friend. Lana wasnt a friend. Alicia wasnt a friend.
With the Clana breakup he seems to sense a feeling of loss and i think that fear of losing Chloe as a friend is so dreadful an idea that he is somewhat gutless to take the risk. At the beginning of Season 2 he jumped back to that friend thing so quick because he though Chloe meant it, and because it was a safe choice.
This series seems to be all about Clark moving farther and farther away from safe choices and more towards the right choices. Chloe=right choice.
Also i always suspect some other levels of hesitancy because he knows he still cares for that she-witch Lana and doesnt want to burden any other potential relationships with the baggage.
I cant see how thematically they would pass the Chlark up. The narrative flow makes Chlark the only logical choice. Lois is basically background noise right now, and rightly so. I really cant fathom how a professional writer would turn that story down
Agree.
Krypto/DQ/
01-26-2007, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Brian Vash Ashby
I never understood the notion that people believe Clark doesnt dig Chloe. It seems to me to be there obviously, if under a mountain of Clana horse crap.
Look at the season 5 ending kiss thing. As the phone rings he stops, looks at the phone, and looks back. Its like part of him clearly wants to stay right there. Plus there is some definite jealous stuff, etc.
I think the main reason he is so reluctant to go there is because Chloe has been a friend. Lana wasnt a friend. Alicia wasnt a friend.
With the Clana breakup he seems to sense a feeling of loss and i think that fear of losing Chloe as a friend is so dreadful an idea that he is somewhat gutless to take the risk. At the beginning of Season 2 he jumped back to that friend thing so quick because he though Chloe meant it, and because it was a safe choice.
This series seems to be all about Clark moving farther and farther away from safe choices and more towards the right choices. Chloe=right choice.
Also i always suspect some other levels of hesitancy because he knows he still cares for that she-witch Lana and doesnt want to burden any other potential relationships with the baggage.
I cant see how thematically they would pass the Chlark up. The narrative flow makes Chlark the only logical choice. Lois is basically background noise right now, and rightly so. I really cant fathom how a professional writer would turn that story down
I agree tho.:)
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