Peter, Hiro, & Sylar's "Multiple" Abilities

[ShadowVessel]

Peter, Hiro, and Sylar. The Alpha's of the Heroes universe. All seem to possess multiple abilities, but technically that's not so:

Hiro possesses the ability of Teleportation, plain and simple, which any Trekkie (including Hiro) can tell you is the manipulation of space/time. Everything he does... time travel, time freeze, moving instantaniously from one point to another... they're all different levels broken down from the one ability.

As far as Sylar's concerned, he only has one natural ability. All of his other abilities are "stolen". There's some people who think that he's either eating or somehow absorbing the brains of his victims in order to gain their abilities. I don't think that's the case at all. He told Brian, the first guy, that he was broken and that he would fix him (most people take this as the ramblings of an insane killer; I have a theory that, if true, would mean that all the heroes aren't a part of evolution, but perhaps the development of some kind of genetics experiment that began decades ago and is just now coming to fruition). Like the watch, his ability is to "see" something that's broken, exactly how it's broken, and how to fix it. The Sylar watch is a prime example of this. It's a Sylar watch casing with an entirely different brand of watch's internal workings. Just like him. I don't think he eats the brains or even absorbs them. I think he takes the brain away from the crime scene somewhere private where he can study the brain and "see" exactly how that peticular brain is "broken", "fixes" it, and repeats the process on himself in reverse somehow. Reverse Engineering could possibly be a term for his ability. Now, exactly how he infuses this reverse engineered alteration to his own DNA without any visible exterior scars is still a mystery. But, in the episode, "One Giant Leap", where they found his apartment, he did have a couple of medical books that were specifically open to pages depicting the anatomy of the brain. I don't know, as smart and realistic as the show is, this is the most logical explanation for Sylar's ability that I could come up with given the parameters of the Heroes universe rules.

Now, given these parameters, I'm still racking my brain on why it seems Peter has two natural abilities while everyone else has only one. He didn't get the dreams from Isaac, as we were originally led to believe, because of what we saw in the episode, "Six Months Ago". Some people have speculated that he's seeing through the perspective of the Heroes who's abilities he's absorbed, which does make sense to an extent, but that doesn't explain the "prophetic" aspect of the ability (plus, as far as we know, Simone's father had no ability to absorb). So, the question is: what one ability gives you Prophetic Dreams and External Power Absorbtion?


WHAT DO YOU THINK?

[MidgardDragon]

Maybe Peter is just "in tune" with those around him, and that is how he "absorbs" their powers? Being "in tune" would not require the other person to have a power, though. For example, he seemed to be quite good at his job as a nurse, and "in tune" with Simone's Father. Perhaps these "Prophetic Dreams" are simply an after effect with Peter being "in tune" with the people he comes into contact with. In essence, his power would not necessarily be power absorption, but empathy. And to further that, perhaps it is his empathy that is his main power, and power absorption is just the side-effect.

[Chlarkerlover]

i agree with your ideas one Peter and Hiro, but i don't know about your Sylar idea, i t seems too unlikily for him to proform brain surgery on himself.

[ShadowVessel]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Maybe Peter is just "in tune" with those around him, and that is how he "absorbs" their powers? Being "in tune" would not require the other person to have a power, though. For example, he seemed to be quite good at his job as a nurse, and "in tune" with Simone's Father. Perhaps these "Prophetic Dreams" are simply an after effect with Peter being "in tune" with the people he comes into contact with. In essence, his power would not necessarily be power absorption, but empathy. And to further that, perhaps it is his empathy that is his main power, and power absorption is just the side-effect.


That actually makes sense in a Heroes kind of way. Maybe he's constantly "absorbing" the people around him but normal people don't have any special abilities that seem to stick out to him. And maybe with us mundy's he has to spend an extended amount of close personal time in order to have such dreams, i.e. Simone's dad. Also, maybe the more powerful the person he "absorbs", the more "prophetic" the dream. Some people have suggested that in his exploding dream he's actually Sylar (which also makes sense if you look at how he's dressed and his watch), and this probably won't take place until the end of the season. In effect; Sylar big bad powerful, dream further into the future than any dream thus far.

Empathy, or Emapathic, does seem to make the most logical explanation. Thanks.

Originally posted by Chlarkerlover
i agree with your ideas one Peter and Hiro, but i don't know about your Sylar idea, i t seems too unlikily for him to proform brain surgery on himself.

Yeah, you're right. Self-surgery seems just as silly as eating brains. But, that's why it's still a mystery as to how he's making these infusions into his DNA. Maybe it's like an internal form of telekinesis (Interkinesis maybe?) where he can make alterations to his own DNA by sheer will power alone. Hopefully this is one of the mysteries that will be explained in the coming second half of the season or even next season.

[kickarse]

It's quite possible that his abilities are expanding... meaning more finite but more powerful. The more he does so the more his body has the ability to retain whatever power he's absorbed. IN the end he would be able to absorb any power and keep it for as long as he deems, perhaps one or more at a time.

His ability to absorb powers will be ability to defeat Sylar. It's possible though that by taking in more than one power (too many powers), or powers that do not interact well with each other, is what causes the explosion.

I believe he's the only one to be able to destroy Sylar, it's almost like a diamond can only scratch a diamon. If they both have similar abilities, they are each others nemesis.

If Peter has the ability to absorb many powers at once and leave the host(s) intact, he then has allies to fight with him against Sylar. Sylar's ability is only though taking anothers power through death/brain or something like that.

This is the reason why HE alone was told "Save the cheerleader. (Then) Save the world."

It's possible that Sylar kills the man with the ability to create power in his hands. Thus Peter interacts with Sylar in someway after that. It's something more than he can handle....

And the tangent begins... sorry guys.

[Dusk919]

I'm wondering if Peter absorbed every ability that Sylar has or just his telekinesis. Because with the way his power works, having to remember how the particular person made him feel, wouldn't remembering Sylar give him access to all of Sylar's abilities at once and cause him to meltdown?

[Superboy2]

Well, Peter only knew of the TK, so he may not know he had the other powers(like when he was thrown off the building and healed himself).

[emjay]

I don't think Peter needs to know about the powers for him to use them. (Police interview with Matt, Invisibility with Claude, even from episode one where he tells Nathan that he hovered when he got out of bed)

I beleive that Peter's prophetic dreams come from Simonne's father, who once mentioned a dream about Peter flying out the window. Whether or not Simonne's father knew about his own ability is uncertain though.


...how he's making these infusions into his DNA. Maybe it's like an internal form of telekinesis
Maybe, but Sylar acquired the telekinesis ability from another Hero. The tests that Chandra (Suresh) performed with Sylar showed that Sylar had no telekinetic abilty until after he murdered the original telekinesis guy. Therefore, how did he aquire the telekinesis?

[j-kent]

Sylar's exact power is a definite mystery. But going along with the idea that he understands how things work, and the watches' small pieces...maybe we can conclude that he does "innately" have some form of telekinesis in regards to manipulating things at a molecular or subatomic level. Hence, being able to manipulate DNA molecules. Changing the order and sequence of the DNA, thus, mutating its structure and function.

[Dusk919]

So if Hiro's main ability is Teleportation, then doesn't that mean that he has very VERY little control over this ability, since he hasn't actually teleported without moving through time also?

[HalJordan4184]

Hiro's ability is that he controls space/time. Teleportation is derivative of this, not the other way around. Being able to teleport would not give Hiro the ability to stop time, however, being able to stop time, does give Hiro the ability to teleport. He actually explains it quite well in his first appearance. He can manipulate space and time, and in doing that, can fold space, and teleport from one place to another. His powers also let him freeze, slow, or even speed up time around him, as well as letting him jump through time as he moves through space.

[clark85]

maybe sylar injects himself with something lol

Originally posted by HalJordan4184
Hiro's ability is that he controls space/time. Teleportation is derivative of this, not the other way around. Being able to teleport would not give Hiro the ability to stop time, however, being able to stop time, does give Hiro the ability to teleport. He actually explains it quite well in his first appearance. He can manipulate space and time, and in doing that, can fold space, and teleport from one place to another. His powers also let him freeze, slow, or even speed up time around him, as well as letting him jump through time as he moves through space.

so basically he can do everthing a universal remote can do, just like in the movie "click"

[ShadowVessel]

I'm thinking more and more that Simone's dad was more than met the eye. With him and his building being such a central point to everything that's happened in the past few episodes, plus...SPOILER ALERT!


















...Linderman's speech to Nathan about being part of a group of earlier Heroes, Mr. Deveroux could very well have had the ability of prophetic dreams that Peter absorbed.

Also, Claude's already confirmed for us that Peter is, in fact, an Empath'.

So, I think the question that was set forth in this post originally is almost at a definite answer. I'm sure the answers to Sylar's mysteries aren't too far off either.

Wednesday night Lost who?
I love this f**king show!

Crap! I just read over in the spoilers section here on the Kryptonsite forum something about Sylar's explanation. In case you haven't read it yet I won't spoil it for you, so go over and check it out. SPOILERS FROM ENTERTAINMENT MAGAZINE is the name of the thread.

[Superboy2]

We are supposed to see what Sylar does with the brains and such. Also, didn't Mohinder get to Zane's apartment only an hour or two after Sylar did? Plus, why would Sylar stay there? I don't remember, but I thought that he didn't know Mohinder was coming.

[chrisxs5]

Originally posted by Dusk919
So if Hiro's main ability is Teleportation, then doesn't that mean that he has very VERY little control over this ability, since he hasn't actually teleported without moving through time also?
He teleported into the girl's restroom in a bar to try and prove his power to Ando. It was in one of the first few episodes.

[HalJordan4184]

I think Hiro just has trouble controllong space/time when teleporting a long distance. He can't seem to go very far without accidently ending up forwards in time.

[angeloo]

i think hiro has troubles with his powers because his power is the most complicated because its so powerful and can control anything

[Shiru]

If Hiro had complete control over his powers, he would be akin to a god. It is still only one power though: Time manipulation.
Space manipulation is only one of the properties of bending time, so as to eliminate the delay between him moving himself (or something else) from a point A to a point B.

As for Peter's powers, I'm pretty sure there's one power that explains it all: Addition. He can add other people's powers into himself and use them at will. I think it is a direct contrast of the Haitian's power, which I consider to be subtraction. He can negate memories and powers alike. I find them being total opposites interesting. A few differences:
-Skin color (not to be racist, but look at it my way). Peter is white, which is by definition a mix(addition) of every other colors, while the Haitian is black, which is the absence(subtraction) of color.
-Personalities: Peter is extroverted, while the Haitian is introverted.
-Companionship: Peter wants to enlist other heroes' help, while the Haitian works mostly alone, in the shadows.
Alignment: Peter's alignment (good) as been known from the start, while the Haitian's is still shrouded in mystery.
I think they are two sides of the same coin, much more related in the grand scheme of things than Peter and Sylar.

I might be going on a stretch here, but Peter's mother may actually be the empath. She might have used her powers in front of him without him knowing, and Peter subconsciously added it to his own repertory.

Sylar's power, however, I am not sure. If I had to use mathematics to describe it, I'd call it the power of translation. He moves the powers from one person to another, his own self. Whether he could actually use the power to translate powers to someone else remains to be seen. But, then again, it's only a theory, far fetched at that.

[chrisxs5]

Originally posted by angeloo
i think hiro has troubles with his powers because his power is the most complicated because its so powerful and can control anything
"Anything" That would be cool if he could send items to the past. He could send a item back to himself for future use between the moment he is at and the time he receives it. Or send an item back to himself with a note for it to be planted some where for him to get it. Like on Bill and Ted!

[DiscoDyslexic]

I was just thinking Bill and Ted!

[TKFlash]

Hiro, Sylar. and Peter are obviously the most powerful people. I would say Ted and Peter are the most destructive.

I think all the metahumans in heroes has a specific molecule in their DNA, that is the building block for their powers. hypothetically his body locks onto that and steals those powers without him knowing. Peter is obviously, the most powerful of them because he has their powers too. But since he doesn't have the experience or time to know what he's capable of. He's not as useful as he can be.

Sylar has the ability to intuitively understand how things work.