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Krypto/DQ/
11-09-2006, 08:09 PM
Well, not a very good episode for Chlark. I thought soemthing was going to happen at the thanksgiving supper but nope, the damn Jimmy Olsen send a message to Chloe right when Clark was looking at her! He even smiled when he saw Chloe...but went a lil down in same time, maybe he noticed something(like he's alone lol) I'm really sad for Clark. But I still think that soemthing need to happen between them.
So do you guys think the romantic Chlark possiblilitys are dead now?
biaaly
11-09-2006, 08:11 PM
Yes, and has been! LOL.. sorry, Ummm, I have no clue if it's dead or not
HowardFilms
11-09-2006, 08:12 PM
He looked jealous! Maybe just for being alone, but man, he looked jealous.
thehenry89
11-09-2006, 08:12 PM
yes to the topic question chlark is dead and i think it has been for a long time.
lillie_poo_pod
11-09-2006, 08:13 PM
I missed that part of the episode. Good grief.
nipvillesmlltuk
11-09-2006, 08:14 PM
I also think there was a bit of jealousy there.
biaaly
11-09-2006, 08:14 PM
What the hell would have to be jealous for (in this episode), its not like he knew it was Jimmy that text her or anything....
MidgardDragon
11-09-2006, 08:14 PM
I'm pretty sure Chlark as a romance has been dead since Episode 1 of this season. I don't think it's coming back, unless they revisit it briefly if or when Jimmy and Chloe split, but even then it will likely be a very very brief romance, if it happens at all.
Superman_Beyond
11-09-2006, 08:14 PM
He didnt look jealous, he happy for her, for everyone at the table.
chlarklove
11-09-2006, 08:17 PM
Nope, it's not dead. She's just with Jimmy "the obstacle" Olsen right now. And that won't last long.
Just gotta have some patience. The most important thing to remember is it's supposed to be worth the wait. :p
D.M.A.
11-09-2006, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
Well, not a very good episode for Chlark. I thought soemthing was going to happen at the thanksgiving supper but nope, the damn Jimmy Olsen send a message to Chloe right when Clark was looking at her! I'm really sad for Clark. But I still think that soemthing need to happen between them.
So do you guys think the romantic Chlark possiblilitys are dead now?
No I think the possibility is always there,I'm actually glad/suprise tptb mention jimmy offscreen.Cause so far they act as tho he doesn't exist when he's not feat,so this was a stepup.As for clark I agree I do feel for him cause he was jus smilin lookin at everyone(Mainly her at the time)when jimmy sent the message and his face jus dropped.In a way I thought it was funny,cause I knew if he got mention in this episode he would send a message or sumthin.I actually thought he would call,or say I luv u and she smile,but I miss u was good enough.The look on clark face was worth it,so yea I think the possibility is always there.Jus as it is for clois,even tho he didn't seem jealous more concern it could be interept diff tho.So yes I think it can still happen,if so we all kno it won't be soon since chlimmy is the ship for now(Lollie is on its way out).
HowardFilms
11-09-2006, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Superman_Beyond
He didnt look jealous, he happy for her, for everyone at the table.
Dude, watch it again, that smile faded fast
RobynAdele0406
11-09-2006, 08:18 PM
Geez, does there always have to be this thread made for every episode? I mean, no insult to the creator. It's just that the Cloisers are gonna come in here and say "DEAD! Always has been, always will be. NYAH!" and Chlarkers will defend Chlark to the grave. It's going to be another never ending cycle for another week, until next week's episode airs and a whole other thread is made about "Is Chlark dead?"
I'll just stay out of this one completely. Forget I was even here. Poof, I'm gone! *poof*
khufu
11-09-2006, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
Well, not a very good episode for Chlark. I thought soemthing was going to happen at the thanksgiving supper but nope, the damn Jimmy Olsen send a message to Chloe right when Clark was looking at her! He even smiled when he saw Chloe...but went a lil down in same time, maybe he noticed something(like he's alone lol) I'm really sad for Clark. But I still think that soemthing need to happen between them.Well when they do scenes like that a lot of work goes into exactly how they film it, who they cut to and when. Chloe getting a message right as Clark was looking at her was not a coincidence.
So do you guys think the romantic Chlark possiblilitys are dead now? Oh of course not. Jimmy being in the way doesn't kill Chlark, it just makes Clark the one is on the lonely end waiting. But Chimmy wont last too much longer, since he only has 4? episodes left in the remaining 16.
Superman_Beyond
11-09-2006, 08:20 PM
I looked again at it doesnt look like jealously.
Edit to say: So I guess when Clark starts to talk about everyone mentioning what they are thankful for and he looks straight at Lois, was that supposed to mean something.
D.M.A.
11-09-2006, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by HowardFilms
He looked jealous! Maybe just for being alone, but man, he looked jealous.
I agree it could be argued that it was because he was alone when lookin at everyone,but he definitely was jealous.I jus wish they would have shown his look when he looked at loillie since that ship will end sooner than chlimmy.He looked at chloe expression and got that hurt look on his face before lookin down.But ur right it could be argued that he jus felt alone,but then again why when he seem happy lookin around at first at havin fam/friends over.But i agree it could be taken a few diff wayz,but definitely sum jealousy
Krypto/DQ/
11-09-2006, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by HowardFilms
Dude, watch it again, that smile faded fast
I have to agree with that. But we are not sure about what he were thinking at this particular moment.
photogirl
11-09-2006, 08:23 PM
Chlark? Dead? NEVER! I definitely thought that tonight was yet another time of tptb showing how alone Clark is and how he has finally realized that he wants to be more than friends with Chloe, and I think after everything he went through with Lana he'll bring it up eventually....they can't torture Chlarkers forever, can they? Say no!! Please? Nope..not dead. Sweet, adorable, wish there was more...but not dead.
D.M.A.
11-09-2006, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by RobynAdele0406
Geez, does there always have to be this thread made for every episode? I mean, no insult to the creator. It's just that the Cloisers are gonna come in here and say "DEAD! Always has been, always will be. NYAH!" and Chlarkers will defend Chlark to the grave. It's going to be another never ending cycle for another week, until next week's episode airs and a whole other thread is made about "Is Chlark dead?"
I'll just stay out of this one completely. Forget I was even here. Poof, I'm gone! *poof*
U kno I agree,no matter what happens onscreen we will have anti's say its nothin/and chlarkers sayin it is ur right.But hey I'm suprise no one has made a thread yet about bashin lois or chloe/or even clana scene at the mansion yet.So this isn't suprising
lillie_poo_pod
11-09-2006, 08:25 PM
YEAHHH!!! CHLARK IS NEVER DEAD! booooooooo @ the Chlarkers who think it is.
Krypto/DQ/
11-09-2006, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by RobynAdele0406
Geez, does there always have to be this thread made for every episode? I mean, no insult to the creator. It's just that the Cloisers are gonna come in here and say "DEAD! Always has been, always will be. NYAH!" and Chlarkers will defend Chlark to the grave. It's going to be another never ending cycle for another week, until next week's episode airs and a whole other thread is made about "Is Chlark dead?"
I'll just stay out of this one completely. Forget I was even here. Poof, I'm gone! *poof*
lol sorry, its my first one :) Its not my fault if TPTB put some weird signs with Chlark!! :p
I know you right...but I think the people could more argue on what they really saw(not as a Cloiser or Chlarker eye) and stop just being a shipper.(Cloiser/Chlarker)
You see I am a Chlarker but in this epi I felt nothing between Chlark, only at the end I saw a litle somehting on Clark's face after he looked at Chloe...and thats really not because i'm a Chlarker. I don't say it was Clark being jealous of Chloe, but he seems to be noticing soemthing after looking at her.
SmallvilleMan
11-09-2006, 08:37 PM
Is Chlark dead? Don't you have to be alive to be able to die?:lol:
D.M.A.
11-09-2006, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
lol sorry, its my first one :) Its not my fault if TPTB put some weird signs with Chlark!! :p
I know you right...but I think the people could more argue on what they really saw(not as a Cloiser or Chlarker eye) and stop just being a shipper.(Cloiser/Chlarker)
You see I am a Chlarker but in this epi I felt nothing between Chlark, only at the end I saw a litle somehting on Clark's face after he looked at Chloe...and thats not really not because i'm a Chlarker.
I agree thruout the whole episode I actually saw more wit the clana scene then wit chlark for the episode.But when it came to the end I couldn't help but notice his reaction to her lookin at the cell.Whether I'ma a chlarker or not,I can admit there was nothin shown between chlark thruout the episode intil the end :D
Krypto/DQ/
11-09-2006, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Is Chlark dead? Don't you have to be alive to be able to die?:lol:
My thread is about Is Chlark dead after seeing the episode. So if you are not going to argue on what you saw on that epi for Chlark. please don't post anymore comment like you did on this very thread.
SmallvilleMan
11-09-2006, 08:47 PM
So you want me to argue about the way Clark looked at Chloe? He looked at her the same way he always has, with the exception of a couple episodes in season 1. So that being said again, you have to be alive to become dead. Oh and by the way, you can comment on any thread you want, you can't restict people's opinions based on your own personally "thread rules."
cotton candy girl
11-09-2006, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Is Chlark dead? Don't you have to be alive to be able to die?:lol:
Word.
SV Man??!! You're back.
SmallvilleMan
11-09-2006, 08:51 PM
SVM??!! You're back.
Just for a bit, I got bored one night and here I am again. Hopefully it won't be for long..... But I did miss you;)
He didn't look jealous to me. He looked sad. He was looking around the table and everyone was happy and with someone -- except him.
TPTB did include Jimmy's message in there for a reason -- to further hit us over the head that Chloe is with Jimmy. And Lois is with Oliver. And Lana is with Lex. And Clark is sitting there all alone.
It was basically the ending of "Wither" all over again.
shy175223
11-09-2006, 09:00 PM
Actually he did look quite content to me. I mean he really did look thankful at everybody and everything he had.
Krypto/DQ/
11-09-2006, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
So you want me to argue about the way Clark looked at Chloe? He looked at her the same way he always has, with the exception of a couple episodes in season 1. So that being said again, you have to be alive to become dead. Oh and by the way, you can comment on any thread you want, you can't restict people's opinions based on your own personally "thread rules."
lol, I made a thread in the Episode Section for this tonight episode called Rage to get opinions concerning the epi Rage, if I wanted a simple comment about what you think about Chlark I wouldn't have made one here. I'm not restinting anything, jsut telling that this thread is made for opinion about "Is Chlark dead" after seeing the episode Rage. So people can argue about what they saw on the epi.
"He looked at her the same way he always has, with the exception of a couple episodes in season 1" Thats your opinion, its ok, at least you mentionned something concerning tonight epi.
So if I understand you, I can go on any threads and talk about what I want, lik going the Music thread fo the epi Zod and talking about the muscis from any epi or anything not concerning the section title, anyways, my english is already bad, I,m not going to argue with you any longer for nothing. You probably won't be able to understand what i say, so I'll stop arguing and continu to read instead of loosing my time trying to make a great thread.
Sorry if I offend you in any way, its wasn't my goal and was not on purpose. Peace out.
i don't think he jealous of any relationshp in particular, he just feeling lonely
it seemed like a bitter sweet thing for him
chunkeymonkey1981
11-09-2006, 09:10 PM
Geez, does there always have to be this thread made for every episode? I mean, no insult to the creator. It's just that the Cloisers are gonna come in here and say "DEAD! Always has been, always will be. NYAH!"
WORD! LOL..Robyn~preach it sista!
Well when they do scenes like that a lot of work goes into exactly how they film it, who they cut to and when. Chloe getting a message right as Clark was looking at her was not a coincidence.
Yeah, that was interesting...but kinda vague and even though I'd like it to be seen as jealousy it was ambiguous in a way...but definitely worth noting!
The chlark will never die!!
jimmyolsenblues
11-09-2006, 09:19 PM
that phone call from jimmy and chloe's reaction is a clear sign chlarkers are going to have to wait. for how long i don't know.
but ollie/lois is not over anytime soon either.
poor clark , couldn't raya make the dinner :(
krypton_gurl85
11-09-2006, 09:20 PM
i think that all hope is gone for chlark. :( :(
Originally posted by Tia
i don't think he jealous of any relationshp in particular, he just feeling lonely
it seemed like a bitter sweet thing for him
Yeah, "bittersweet" is exactly how I'd describe it for him. He was genuinely thankful to be surrounded by friends and loved ones. But he missed his father and he was feeling alone... especially because it seemed that everyone had someone.
The moment where he looked at Chloe, it was like (for a second) he forgot that she's wasn't alone like him. And then the call came in and he remembered that he really was the only one without someone. But he's still happy for everyone else.
D.M.A.
11-09-2006, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
that phone call from jimmy and chloe's reaction is a clear sign chlarkers are going to have to wait. for how long i don't know.
but ollie/lois is not over anytime soon either.
poor clark , couldn't raya make the dinner :(
yes I agree his response was to show that he has to wait now,lets say he was jealous of jus chloe...Then it serves him right that she's happy for once and he's the odd one wit the feelings hangin.But I agree it doesn't look like chlimmy will break anytime soon,and wit AA havin only 4 more appearances(And we get 2 more episodes before Jan)I dont see chlimmy splittin til about mid april.As for loillie they seemed fairly happy at the end of the episode it was sweet,so ur right they wont split soon either.Well atleast not til justice...But chlark was lonely yes but seein loillie wasn't as bad as seein chloe lightup.Oliver was there and he knew how those 2 felt gettin over an obstacle he's been there,but seein sumone whos out of town still txt and leave a message that lightsup his best friend really got to him.That's why clark smiles first at seein everyone get together(Even after loillie kissed)but frowned and looked down when he saw chloe smile.Imo the scene could be interpret many ways but I think it was to show that chlark will have to wait awhile :D
Originally posted by eas
Yeah, "bittersweet" is exactly how I'd describe it for him. He was genuinely thankful to be surrounded by friends and loved ones. But he missed his father and he was feeling alone... especially because it seemed that everyone had someone.
The moment where he looked at Chloe, it was like (for a second) he forgot that she's wasn't alone like him. And then the call came in and he remembered that he really was the only one without someone. But he's still happy for everyone else.
yes I agree imo this could be argued,they had him look at chloe when she got the txt so yes it could be that he forgot that she had sumone til then.Or maybe not it all depends on how they followt thru wit it later on.But ur right generally speakin he was still thankful for everyone jus bein there,I dont kno the scene is confusin honestly.It can go many wayz,but his expression is atleast bein noted this week unlike chloe's last week.So I guess they did a better job of gettin the point across even if its still debateable
lexs&os
11-09-2006, 09:38 PM
No, Chlark is not dead. In fact I think the opposite. I didn't see jealousy, I saw pain - like...."well hell, I had my chance and I'd do it differently given the opportunity again." Also, being a Chlarker and expecting the annual kiss, it made me think that much more that this time....this kiss will be initiated by Clark.
aft06
11-09-2006, 09:38 PM
YES DEAR GOD YES IT IS DEAD AND BURIED!!!!
not that it matters. Clark could be married, have three children and mortgage and some people would still be holding out for Chlark
SteveS
11-09-2006, 09:39 PM
And I saw Clark beam at Ollie and lois without the slightest bit of admiration, jealousy or desire, unlike lois who was panting like a mare in heat from Oliver's ostensibly boring kisses.
She still doesn't tickle Clark's funny bone or any other one.
He did most probably note that Chloe checked her text messages and whether he could read it or not, he knew what her checking meant. Chloe and Clark will be together again and Jimmy will just be a twirp memory. Bet on it.
lexs&os
11-09-2006, 09:42 PM
^^ right, he was happy Lolly was together and he *pressed* Ollie to keep pursuing.
D.M.A.
11-09-2006, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by SteveS
And I saw Clark beam at Ollie and lois without the slightest bit of admiration, jealousy or desire, unlike lois who was panting like a mare in heat from Oliver's ostensibly boring kisses.
She still doesn't tickle Clark's funny bone or any other one.
He did most probably note that Chloe checked her text messages and whether he could read it or not, he knew what her checking meant. Chloe and Clark will be together again and Jimmy will just be a twirp memory. Bet on it.
I agree he seemed happy for loillie if nothin else,but that's because he knows what it feels like to make a mistake and have sumone who luvs u forgiveness.As for chloe,he prob didn't kno exactly what was on her txt but he knew who it was from and it made him realize sumthin.Could be argued what exactly but he realize sumthin when lookin at her,that wasn't a coincedence imo.Chlark isn't over it was jus shown tonight to be put on hold for alil longer.
aft06
11-09-2006, 09:44 PM
Say what you want. Clark wasn't jealous of Jimmy at the end there either. What I saw was Clark being happy to have so many good friends and then just a little sadness that he was the only one without someone. Not 'oh man I wish I was with Chloe'
TalkinMac
11-09-2006, 09:45 PM
Yep.
SmallvilleMan
11-09-2006, 09:48 PM
So if I understand you, I can go on any threads and talk about what I want, lik going the Music thread fo the epi Zod and talking about the muscis from any epi or anything not concerning the section title, anyways, my english is already bad, I,m not going to argue with you any longer for nothing. You probably won't be able to understand what i say, so I'll stop arguing and continu to read instead of loosing my time trying to make a great thread.
And what I said applied to the topic of the thread, you can't be dead if you weren't alive.
smchic92
11-09-2006, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by shy175223
Actually he did look quite content to me. I mean he really did look thankful at everybody and everything he had.
My thoughts exactly! Even though I am a Chlarker, I honestly have to say he didn't look jealous, he looked glad or happy for her. He SMILED at her when she smiled when she got the message. And he smiled when he looked at Ollie and Lois. I just think he was grateful for everyone there. Isn't that what Thanksgiving is all about?? ;)
Krypto/DQ/
11-09-2006, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
And what I said applied to the topic of the thread, you can't be dead if you weren't alive.
Ok my fault then dude, i missunderstood your point. I still think its more an opinion about Chlark in general but anyway, think what you want. My opinion though. OK this is the last time I anwer to you...so lets stop it right now or you can PM me if needed because we are not disscussing the subject ere....thank you.
D.M.A.
11-09-2006, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by aft06
Say what you want. Clark wasn't jealous of Jimmy at the end there either. What I saw was Clark being happy to have so many good friends and then just a little sadness that he was the only one without someone. Not 'oh man I wish I was with Chloe'
ya see that's the thing we dont kno for sure,it was put there to have diff views.While u say that it as if its no way he was jealous of jimmy u can't prove he wasn't from what we saw.Imo it could be argued both wayz not jus romantic feelings or even saddness of bein alone.Besides when the bf isn't around its hard to tell if he's truly jealous or not so its always arguable imo,but the look was there.So I guess we agree to disagree,I agree its an expression how ur explainin but I think its also of hurt from seein chloe happy also.It was meant for diff views
Absentee
11-09-2006, 10:03 PM
Clark's smile faded so fast because he's miserable and he knows it.
He misses Lana. I bet it reminded him of xmas last year when he was still with Lana and he was happy.
Let it be Dead.. Theres no point.. Just have them be friends.. thats it.
chlarklove
11-09-2006, 10:48 PM
If they haven't let it die in 5+ years there's no way they'll let it die now.
They're keeping the door open on Chlark for a reason.
D.M.A.
11-09-2006, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by chlarklove
If they haven't let it die in 5+ years there's no way they'll let it die now.
They're keeping the door open on Chlark for a reason.
I agree and as long as both chloe/lois have sumone while he doesn't we'll get looks like tonight.Tptb seem to be playin both girls evenly thruout this season,but if nothin happens wit chlark when he leaves to train then yes I'll say its dead.Otherwise I think its jus apart of their buildup,he is suppose to be alone this season,so even if they hookup it won't be til the end of s6.No time sooner,so I agree they keep the doors open for a reason
SmallvilleMan
11-09-2006, 11:17 PM
I think they brought Olsen in for a specific reason....To be with Chloe......Chloe and Clark aren't ever going to get together....
Damali
11-09-2006, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by Absentee
Clark's smile faded so fast because he's miserable and he knows it.
He misses Lana. I bet it reminded him of xmas last year when he was still with Lana and he was happy.
I think a part of him misses Lana, but I got the impression that he was thinking of his dad at the end of the dinner scene. The writers made it a point to mention Pa Kent serveral times throughout the episode. If he was sad or upset over anyone my money's on Pa Kent.
biaaly
11-09-2006, 11:28 PM
Yeah, God Forbid he be sad over his Father, who he mentions when he says hes thankful.. No, hes upset about Chloe! Or Lois! C'mon I'm a Cloiser but even I know when to take a chill pill. LOL *rolls eyes*
SmallvilleMan
11-09-2006, 11:29 PM
^^^:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
chlarklove
11-09-2006, 11:33 PM
Okay, I just rewatched the end scene again and for those who think Chlark is dead, IMO are seriously mistaken.
The lyrics of the song by Josh Kelley are really key. And the songs typically have meaning. They're pretty careful in choosing the right song, especially this season since we haven't had many in the episodes.
Anyways, the lyrics for the scene go as follows:
Clark looks at Lollie smooching and smiles. (He seems happy for them and even played a part in helping them stay together)
Clark turns to look at Chloe.
I wish that love was all it took
Chloe is eating and gets a message on her phone.
I'd fall into you if I could, hoping for a graceful recovery
Chloe opens her phone to see a message from Jimmy and smiles.
But I know now
Clark's smile fades and he looks down sadly.
The thing is, if it was all just about Clark being sad about Pa Kent or how he's alone in general, why bother focusing on that? Those moments between Chloe and Clark there were key.
Originally posted by biaaly
Yeah, God Forbid he be sad over his Father, who he mentions when he says hes thankful.. No, hes upset about Chloe! Or Lois! C'mon I'm a Cloiser but even I know when to take a chill pill. LOL *rolls eyes*
Wow. Could you BE anymore rude?
I'm not saying he wasn't sad over Jonathan *at all*, he was and it was said earlier in the episode. That's not the point of that moment though.
D.M.A.
11-09-2006, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I think they brought Olsen in for a specific reason....To be with Chloe......Chloe and Clark aren't ever going to get together....
I agree,yet disagree...Yes they brought him in the be wit chloe,but only so she wouldn't pin when the kiss was brushed off.If they kissed then didn't hookup right away they had to make sure she wasn't pinin,which was understandable so yes he was brought in for chloe.But only to make sure she wasn't pinin,not because she's moved on,or chlark will never be.Also they brought him cause he's another part of the future they jus threw in,plus givin them another reason to show the DP.We usually see the globe and know chlark is finna have a scene,but we saw in fallout that chlimmy had a few there too with no clark.So they brought him in for 2 reasons only to make sure they could prelong chlark longer witout makin her bein the one pinin,and to tie in the DP wit Superman future summore.As for chlark never happenin we dont kno that,even anti's gotta admit that.Its still a possibility cause wit the way tptb have handled chlimmy its not believable for the ship to be over any chlark.
MsSullivan
11-09-2006, 11:39 PM
Chlark is so in the horizon. Nice post chlarklove, we know how much attention SV puts into picking out their pop songs, so I don't think it was an accident that the song lyrics fit the current chlark situation.
Lets remember they still owe us our annual chlark kiss :)
lilkoolmaria
11-09-2006, 11:40 PM
I really don't see how anything could happeing between Chloe and Clark anymore. Lois is becoming more like herself and Chloe has been in less and less of the episodes. I think their friendship will definitely continue, though.
SmallvilleMan
11-09-2006, 11:42 PM
What's the point of that moment then? To prove Clark actually likes Chloe, despite never doing anything to try and be with her? Clark has had numerous opportunities to be with her and if he wanted to be, then he would be. Looks can mean numerous things.....Can be interupted differently. You can say he looked down sadly, because he no longer had what Chloe had, because Lana was gone.
D.M.A.
11-09-2006, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by biaaly
Yeah, God Forbid he be sad over his Father, who he mentions when he says hes thankful.. No, hes upset about Chloe! Or Lois! C'mon I'm a Cloiser but even I know when to take a chill pill. LOL *rolls eyes*
Well I can agree,he was thinkin of his dad and yes sum may take the scene for more than what it is.But I also think it was about JK and the fact that clark is alone.He looked around and was still happy even tho JK was gone for a moment and realize that he's still thnkful for what JK done,and for those still wit him.But soon realizes that lois has a bf that cares,martha has lionel who cares,and even chloe has sumone.I agree his main intentions on frownin may be over Jk but it wasn't all about him.We r suppose to see this season how lonely it is for clark and I think tonight was a sign of it jus like they tried to show at the end of wither.So yes I agree and disagree,I think it was about the ships,jus as it was about JK.Both played a part in his reaction,and it can be argued over which held the most concern wit him.But he definitely showed signs of regret/jealousy/hurt/sadness when he looked at chloe.Cause then it hit him that even tho jk gone and he got fam still that cares,everyone has a life outside of him.So I agree about JK,but jus think its more to it then that
SmallvilleMan
11-09-2006, 11:43 PM
I agree,yet disagree...Yes they brought him in the be wit chloe,but only so she wouldn't pin when the kiss was brushed off.If they kissed then didn't hookup right away they had to make sure she wasn't pinin,which was understandable so yes he was brought in for chloe.But only to make sure she wasn't pinin,not because she's moved on,or chlark will never be.Also they brought him cause he's another part of the future they jus threw in,plus givin them another reason to show the DP.We usually see the globe and know chlark is finna have a scene,but we saw in fallout that chlimmy had a few there too with no clark.So they brought him in for 2 reasons only to make sure they could prelong chlark longer witout makin her bein the one pinin,and to tie in the DP wit Superman future summore.As for chlark never happenin we dont kno that,even anti's gotta admit that.Its still a possibility cause wit the way tptb have handled chlimmy its not believable for the ship to be over any chlark.
No offense, but I have no clue what you just said.
chlarklove
11-09-2006, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by lilkoolmaria
I really don't see how anything could happeing between Chloe and Clark anymore. Lois is becoming more like herself and Chloe has been in less and less of the episodes. I think their friendship will definitely continue, though.
Chloe has been in EVERY episode this season. It's just her plot arc gets kicked off next week and starts gaining momentum into the 2nd half of the season. Which IMO, is a more important time than the first half.
Like I said, if they haven't let Chlark die in 5+ seasons, there's no reason why they'll let it die now. Especially when they've had PLENTY of opportunities to do so in the past.
Deana
11-09-2006, 11:47 PM
Why should Clana die and not Chlark? What makes Chlark's song and dance any different?
D.M.A.
11-09-2006, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by chlarklove
Okay, I just rewatched the end scene again and for those who think Chlark is dead, IMO are seriously mistaken.
The lyrics of the song by Josh Kelley are really key. And the songs typically have meaning. They're pretty careful in choosing the right song, especially this season since we haven't had many in the episodes.
Anyways, the lyrics for the scene go as follows:
Clark looks at Lollie smooching and smiles. (He seems happy for them and even played a part in helping them stay together)
Clark turns to look at Chloe.
I wish that love was all it took
Chloe is eating and gets a message on her phone.
I'd fall into you if I could, hoping for a graceful recovery
Chloe opens her phone to see a message from Jimmy and smiles.
But I know now
Clark's smile fades and he looks down sadly.
The thing is, if it was all just about Clark being sad about Pa Kent or how he's alone in general, why bother focusing on that? Those moments between Chloe and Clark there were key.
Great catch,I'm not speakin on it cause I dont have it on tape where I can rewind and play over.So I was jus agreein that it was about JK but also about sumthin more.If chloe didn't trigger the expression then why show it when he's lookin directly at her(Its goes from him smilin at her,to her smilin at the message,back to him smilin yet fadin into hurt).It could be argued many ways,that's why I say it all depends on how things play out when chlarkimmy r around each other.Its easy to debate what's there/not there when sumone out of the triangle is missin jus like chloe expression last week.We saw no signs of jimmy,yet we saw clark happy to jus be around those who luved him til sumthin hit.Yes he misses his father but seemed happy when he looked around like everythin would be alright,then chloe(Who was there without her bf keep in mind)reminded him he is alone.Cause he jus smiled at loille kissin,and he knows how close his mother is wit lionel.So seein chloe get a message hit him that he was alone at that table.It can be argued tho if it was romantic or not,but it was sumthin.JK played a part in the concern from clark,but wasn't all of it.So good catch,like I said its hard when u jus watch it when it airs and waits for reruns or youtube to see again :D
gogeta
11-09-2006, 11:48 PM
I noticed the lyrics too chlarklove, good catch! Chlark could have been dead and buried a long time ago..yet 5+ seasons and it's still possibility.
SmallvilleMan
11-09-2006, 11:48 PM
Why should Clana die and not Chlark? What makes Chlark's song and dance any different
Hmmmm, i have an answer, i'm just not sure how offending it would be.........:eek:
MBCorp
11-09-2006, 11:49 PM
One thing you guys need to remember: No ship on this show dies. Ever.
I'm still waiting for Clana to raise Zombi-like from the grave at some point...
SmallvilleMan
11-09-2006, 11:50 PM
I'm still waiting for Clana to raise Zombi-like from the grave at some point...
You'll be waiting a very long time. In fact, I bet you'll in your grave by the time Clana rises again........
lilkoolmaria
11-09-2006, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by chlarklove
Chloe has been in EVERY episode this season. It's just her plot arc gets kicked off next week and starts gaining momentum into the 2nd half of the season. Which IMO, is a more important time than the first half.
Like I said, if they haven't let Chlark die in 5+ seasons, there's no reason why they'll let it die now. Especially when they've had PLENTY of opportunities to do so in the past.
Sorry, I meant she has less screentime in every episode. It's cool that she'll get back into the arc. I missed her.
Deana
11-09-2006, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Hmmmm, i have an answer, i'm just not sure how offending it would be.........:eek:
I just don't understand why Chloe's love for Clark isn't as old to some fans as Clark's love for Lana. Both equal up to five plus years.
D.M.A.
11-09-2006, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
What's the point of that moment then? To prove Clark actually likes Chloe, despite never doing anything to try and be with her? Clark has had numerous opportunities to be with her and if he wanted to be, then he would be. Looks can mean numerous things.....Can be interupted differently. You can say he looked down sadly, because he no longer had what Chloe had, because Lana was gone.
ha cause lana was gon,naw I wouldn't say that much.Anyways lets say it was to show clark has feelings for chloe,wouldn't that say alot since alot of anti's say that he hasn't felt nothin in awhile.Ur right if he wanted her he could be wit her,but he can't now that she's involved this is clark we're talkin bout,not lex.I dont see clark skeemin to get chloe away from jimmy where he likes her or not,he'll step aside as he's done wit lana bf in the past,that's clark.I do agree he had a chance to get her(Back in Zod)but was afraid,he waited for her to make the move for him and when she didn't he backed off.He thinks she's moved on is it bad to have mixed feelings for ur bestfriend right now,yet thinkin she's moved on.That doesn't make the feelings less confusin,even if he does think she's happy he doesn't kno how he feels jus yet.But I dont think it was about that tho,it was more about him realizin that he was alone.She jus happen to be the one that triggered it,if they would have had her shown first,then mionel,then loillie kissin I think it could have gotten the same reaction.Then again it can be argued it wouldn't,that's the thing we dont kno how clark feels for any girl right now,til he says sumthin out loud.But the look was put there for a reason,why show chloe then show him hurt if it wont lead to more later.Sum said last week that they saw signs of how chlimmy will split(Whether its he's out of her league/she still luvs clark/puts clark priorities first etc),well imo the expression shows tonight that at sum point those 2 will have to talk about their feelings and then we can get answers.Til then we can only assume and from what they r showin he seemed hurt.But I respect ur opinion tho,I jus respectfully disagree
SmallvilleMan
11-09-2006, 11:59 PM
I just don't understand why Chloe's love for Clark isn't as old to some fans as Clark's love for Lana. Both equal up to five plus years.
Huh? That had nothing to do with what I meant. Well, Clark says he loved Lana since he was five and Chloe maybe loved Clark since she was a freshman. Not sure what that has to do with anything.
ha cause lana was gon,naw I wouldn't say that much.Anyways lets say it was to show clark has feelings for chloe,wouldn't that say alot since alot of anti's say that he hasn't felt nothin in awhile.Ur right if he wanted her he could be wit her,but he can't now that she's involved this is clark we're talkin bout,not lex.I dont see clark skeemin to get chloe away from jimmy where he likes her or not,he'll step aside as he's done wit lana bf in the past,that's clark.I do agree he had a chance to get her(Back in Zod)but was afraid,he waited for her to make the move for him and when she didn't he backed off.He thinks she's moved on is it bad to have mixed feelings for ur bestfriend right now,yet thinkin she's moved on.That doesn't make the feelings less confusin,even if he does think she's happy he doesn't kno how he feels jus yet.But I dont think it was about that tho,it was more about him realizin that he was alone.She jus happen to be the one that triggered it,if they would have had her shown first,then mionel,then loillie kissin I think it could have gotten the same reaction.Then again it can be argued it wouldn't,that's the thing we dont kno how clark feels for any girl right now,til he says sumthin out loud.But the look was put there for a reason,why show chloe then show him hurt if it wont lead to more later.Sum said last week that they saw signs of how chlimmy will split(Whether its he's out of her league/she still luvs clark/puts clark priorities first etc),well imo the expression shows tonight that at sum point those 2 will have to talk about their feelings and then we can get answers.Til then we can only assume and from what they r showin he seemed hurt.But I respect ur opinion tho,I jus respectfully disagree
I'm sorry, I can't understand everything you're saying. But I saw respectfully disagree, so we'll go with that.....My belief is, that if Clark felt about Chloe like he did Lana, then they would be together.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
No offense, but I have no clue what you just said.
What I'm sayin is I agree they brought him in to be wit chloe,but that wasn't all he was brought in for.Maybe the key thing yes but only so she wouldn't pin if tptb blew off the kiss from vessel.If chlark wasn't to hookup in the beginnin of the season they needed a reason why,and jimmy was that answer.Plus he ties into the DP later on that's what I meant,he's a roadblock for chlark,and another missin piece of superman future that tptb wanted to have fun wit.But him comin in didn't mean the end of chlark/it'll never happen,jus that it wouldn't happen in the beginnin of the season.So they needed a reason why,and we got that now,but sum r lookin ahead like alot of cloisers do.Nothin wrong wit lookin ahead but when they constantly givin out signs u can't help but assume.And imo we'll see chlimmy breakup midapril or around his last 2 appearances and a annual chlark kiss/possible hookup right before he leaves.Or they may leave that left unanswered like the vessel kiss all summer til he gets back.But imo they r showin signs of it now
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 12:02 AM
What I'm sayin is I agree they brought him in to be wit chloe,but that wasn't all he was brought in for.Maybe the key thing yes but only so she wouldn't pin if tptb blew off the kiss from vessel.If chlark wasn't to hookup in the beginnin of the season they needed a reason why,and jimmy was that answer.Plus he ties into the DP later on that's what I meant,he's a roadblock for chlark,and another missin piece of superman future that tptb wanted to have fun wit.But him comin in didn't mean the end of chlark/it'll never happen,jus that it wouldn't happen in the beginnin of the season.So they needed a reason why,and we got that now,but sum r lookin ahead like alot of cloisers do.Nothin wrong wit lookin ahead but when they constantly givin out signs u can't help but assume.And imo we'll see chlimmy breakup midapril or around his last 2 appearances and a annual chlark kiss/possible hookup right before he leaves.Or they may leave that left unanswered like the vessel kiss all summer til he gets back.But imo they r showin signs of it now
No, I meant your words are confussing me. I'm trying to read what you're saying and i'm getting dizzy. Maybe it's just late....:eek:
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by Deana
Why should Clana die and not Chlark? What makes Chlark's song and dance any different?
To be fair it shouldn't :D ,and in a way it won't.Clana will always have a connection whether she's wit lex/clark wantin to protect her etc.Tptb have made it clear that clana is the main ship of the show even if they aren't datin.So in a way it isn't dyin,but sum do believe its chloe turn to have a fair shot at happiness wit clark(Even if WE the audience knows the outcome,they dont).That's why,its not really a hate for clana,maybe sum ppl do but not me.Its jus they will be connected no matter what but they still got a fair run.Cloisers may not get clois and I understand why they would be mad jus as chlarkers,so havin romantic clana step aside is cool imo
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
No, I meant your words are confussing me. I'm trying to read what you're saying and i'm getting dizzy. Maybe it's just late....:eek:
:lol: o no prob
Deana
11-10-2006, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Huh? That had nothing to do with what I meant. Well, Clark says he loved Lana since he was five and Chloe maybe loved Clark since she was a freshman. Not sure what that has to do with anything.
I was meekly pointing out that Clana coming back is considered beating a dead horse in the fandom. Why isn't Chloe's crush considered in the same light?
You know old, boring, a leech on the show...
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I'm sorry, I can't understand everything you're saying. But I saw respectfully disagree, so we'll go with that.....My belief is, that if Clark felt about Chloe like he did Lana, then they would be together.
but that's the thing we r bein lead to believe no one can compare to lana yet we kno sumone in his future does(Lois).However lana was his first luv he jus had sex wit her last yr,wit chloe its sumthin he's growin into.Wit lana he jus knew,more like an infactuation that grew into luv.So u can't really compare the 2 cause he may never meet another woman that catches him like lana first did.But it doesn't mean he can't fall for/or even luv chloe(Or lois later on).I jus wouldn't compare lana/chloe when it comes to clark luvin them
ginnyfan
11-10-2006, 12:08 AM
No. It's possible that she could break up with Jimmy and get with Clark if he makes a definite in mind-blowingly romantic move on her. I doubt that he will though.
Chloe looked pretty happy to get the cute text-message. I don't know how she'd take a move from Clark now. He should have made his move in Zod. The BDA.
But I really don't think Clark loves Chloe like that.
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 12:11 AM
I was meekly pointing out that Clana coming back is considered beating a dead horse in the fandom. Why isn't Chloe's crush considered in the same light?
Because people on this site love Chloe and she can do no wrong.....Everything Chloe is gold:rolleyes: Just like everything Lana and Clana is crap.....
but that's the thing we r bein lead to believe no one can compare to lana yet we kno sumone in his future does(Lois).However lana was his first luv he jus had sex wit her last yr,wit chloe its sumthin he's growin into.Wit lana he jus knew,more like an infactuation that grew into luv.So u can't really compare the 2 cause he may never meet another woman that catches him like lana first did.But it doesn't mean he can't fall for/or even luv chloe(Or lois later on).I jus wouldn't compare lana/chloe when it comes to clark luvin them
He's always thought for Chloe as a sister and sometimes that doesn't change. I doubt it will, it might, but it's doubtful.
chlarklove
11-10-2006, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by Deana
I just don't understand why Chloe's love for Clark isn't as old to some fans as Clark's love for Lana. Both equal up to five plus years.
There's a big difference between the two. But since this isn't about Clana I'll leave it out.
Chloe and Clark's relationship has only gotten stronger over the course of the years. It hasn't all been about angst and pining and making moony eyes at each other. They've bonded and grown as friends and shared each other's deepest secrets. They're more intimate (on an emotional level) with each other than they are with their significant others (when they had/have one). Yes they've had their ups and downs, but the point is they've managed to overcome them and become better for it. That's what makes them a truly great relationship.
Chloe's love for Clark hasn't gotten in the way of anything else. Besides her hiccup in season 2. The love she has now is more mature and adult.
Clark loves Chloe and he has had romantic feelings for her in the past. It's just that when she put the brakes on, he returned to the status quo and went back to Lana. That was always the obstacle between them. He wasn't over Lana yet. And yeah, there was Alicia and Kyla, but they knew his secret. In season 5, when Chloe knew, he was with Lana. So there was no chance for them to get together. At the end yes, but it would look like a rebound, and IMO (since I am a Chloiser) that's not the way the show wants to portray this couple. However, while he was with Lana, he was way more intimate with Chloe than he was with his own girlfriend. He grew closer to Chloe and was more comfortable with her than anyone else. This all lead up to the season finale kiss between them that finally opened his eyes to what he had been blind to for so long.
They bring in a boyfriend for Chloe immediately after that kiss, which is only to be used as an obstacle to further prolong the couple. It's used a lot in tv shows (Friends for example). And we get glimpses of Clark being jealous of Jimmy, but I suspect that will increase as the season progresses.
YMMV obviously.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
No. It's possible that she could break up with Jimmy and get with Clark if he makes a definite in mind-blowingly romantic move on her. I doubt that he will though.
Chloe looked pretty happy to get the cute text-message. I don't know how she'd take a move from Clark now. He should have made his move in Zod. The BDA.
But I really don't think Clark loves Chloe like that.
But atleast its good to see sumone who doesn't believe the ship will happen admit sumthin,really anythin :D .I agree if he was to make a move now she would be shocked and takin back,cause she's happy wit jimmy(Wants clark)but doesn't think he's interested.Imo him makin a move now wit jimmy still havin 4 more episodes would cause tension wit chlimmy too early.Tptb r tryin to stretch it as long as they can,but I agree if they breakup and clark makes a move she'll take him.But he has to make the move this time I dont think chloe is goin to make the move.She may find out how he feels and tries to get him to confess but I doubt she'll kiss him again.If they r to hookup it'll be late in the season and clark will have to be the one to initiate it.And ur right he doesn't luv chloe like that yet,but I think thruout the season he will slowly.He luvs her but doesn't kno how much right now.Its not as solid as his luv for lana before,but its luv.He jus needs this season to process it :D
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 12:18 AM
Either you feel it or you don't. Yes, you can develop it. However, considering the fact he's had his chances with her, considering the fact she already knows and he's had more than a year of her knowing. The more things change, the more things stay the same.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
He's always thought for Chloe as a sister and sometimes that doesn't change. I doubt it will, it might, but it's doubtful.
I wouldn't say as a sis,pete as a bro yes,lois yes but not chloe.Chloe he looked at as a partner always his equal even if he didn't treat her like one at times.If anythin clois act more bro/sis than anyone on the show and we kno his feelings change for her,so I think its always possible for clark to change his feelings for chloe.We kno from him bein on redk that he has those feelings inside,he's jus tellin himself that they r friends and this is the best.This season I think he starts questioning that pak between them from s2 to remain friends.That's why I say its questionable cause we kno he feels sumthin for her,but how much is up in the air.Plus is it enough to pursue her,risk their friendship that he thinks will hurt if it doesn't work.He was willingin to do it wit lana yes,but we need to see that he's willing to do it again jus incase we dont get to see clois on this show.And imo chloe is the one he needs to try it wit,he's quick to show her his feelings for others,but when it comes to chlark he's jus as nervous around her as he was for lana in s1(That's a fact).Clark has never been good wit expressin his feelings for chloe when he likes her or has confused feelings about her.So its possible to change
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 12:22 AM
Not sister in the way act, but the way he feels for her. Sister as in he loves her and would do anything for her, but doesn't those kind of romantic feelings toward her.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Either you feel it or you don't. Yes, you can develop it. However, considering the fact he's had his chances with her, considering the fact she already knows and he's had more than a year of her knowing. The more things change, the more things stay the same.
True but he's only known for a yr now that she's known,and he also knows that when he found out about chloe/his secret he got involved wit lana.Now that lana is over he is lookin back to the person that stood by him no matter what,but this time she's got sumone.So yea its goin to hurt at times,but its clark he won't speakup cause he thinks she's happy and she's his bf.But i do think his feelings can change if they haven't already
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 12:24 AM
Except he isn't over Lana yet. Those feelings haven't been resolved yet. Chloe will stand by him, which is why she would be a sister to him. You also must keep in fact that he probably wouldn't want to lose that either.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Not sister in the way act, but the way he feels for her. Sister as in he loves her and would do anything for her, but doesn't those kind of romantic feelings toward her.
But see that's the thing we were reminded in Rush that he does has those feelings for her buried.He even admits to lana in s3 that his actions on redk(Tho she doesn't kno)r in him he jus chose to let them out.So its safe to say he's attracted to her yes,but how much is the question.Is it enough to speakup tho he thinks she's happy wit jimmy or step aside.But imo at sumpoint jimmy will notice the chlark tension and will call them on it.Cause I dont think clark will grow a pair and tell her,so he'll need help.He feels sumthin tho,no doubt,its jus how much.Is it worth the risk?
ma200
11-10-2006, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Either you feel it or you don't. Yes, you can develop it. However, considering the fact he's had his chances with her, considering the fact she already knows and he's had more than a year of her knowing. The more things change, the more things stay the same.
Don't forget "considering the fact that he's dated girls and even girls with questionable behavior (Alicia) rather than Chloe, his best buddy in the whole frickin' universe"
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Except he isn't over Lana yet. Those feelings haven't been resolved yet. Chloe will stand by him, which is why she would be a sister to him. You also must keep in fact that he probably wouldn't want to lose that either.
Yes I agree he isn't over lana yet,which is why jimmy is here.He wasn't goin to hop in wit chloe(Tptb made that clear)so they had to give her a reason not to pin while waitin.Yes ur right clana is unresolved but what I'm sayin is so is chlark,that kiss hit him harder than he is lettin on.Tonight could be argued as a sign.But I agree clana isn't over yet til they resolve a few things,once that's done then chlark will make sense.Til then chlimmy will play out but I think we'll see signs of clark feelings for chloe showup tho along the way.Cause chlark is in the same boat as clana now,unresolved
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 12:28 AM
But see that's the thing we were reminded in Rush that he does has those feelings for her buried.He even admits to lana in s3 that his actions on redk(Tho she doesn't kno)r in him he jus chose to let them out.So its safe to say he's attracted to her yes,but how much is the question.Is it enough to speakup tho he thinks she's happy wit jimmy or step aside.But imo at sumpoint jimmy will notice the chlark tension and will call them on it.Cause I dont think clark will grow a pair and tell her,so he'll need help.He feels sumthin tho,no doubt,its jus how much.Is it worth the risk?
Let's be honest, with Clark is on red k he wants to "hit" every girl he can. Clark on red k is a pimp who can pull it off.
Don't forget "considering the fact that he's dated girls and even girls with questionable behavior (Alicia) rather than Chloe, his best buddy in the whole frickin' universe
Oh you know me, I've never forgotten;)
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by ma200
Don't forget "considering the fact that he's dated girls and even girls with questionable behavior (Alicia) rather than Chloe, his best buddy in the whole frickin' universe"
Yes he has,he dated girls that had powers too,or who he thought understood his powers.But at the time he thought chloe would betray him/use him for a story.Now tho we can't really hold that against the couple,cause we dont kno if he would make those same choices.
chlarklove
11-10-2006, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by ma200
Don't forget "considering the fact that he's dated girls and even girls with questionable behavior (Alicia) rather than Chloe, his best buddy in the whole frickin' universe"
She knew his secret and he could be open and free around her.
Same goes for Kyla.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Let's be honest, with Clark is on red k he wants to "hit" every girl he can. Clark on red k is a pimp who can pull it off.
Oh you know me, I've never forgotten;)
Yes he makes a move on anygirl,but doesn't go makeout in public wit jus anyone.The way he acted in rush was diff than in heat wit jessie.He was attracted to the girls nonetheless,that's what redk did.It brought out feelings he had buried meanin he was still attracted to chloe.I mean simone was usin sum sort of redk in her medallion and he didn't hit on lois or anyone.At that moment he was attracted to her,which is what clark does when he's on redk.He acts out what he feels,that's like him gettin on redk now.Who would he chase after...tho he isn't over lana I doubt it be her
lastdaughterofkrypton
11-10-2006, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Because people on this site love Chloe and she can do no wrong.....Everything Chloe is gold:rolleyes: Just like everything Lana and Clana is crap.....
Awwww You are a Chlarker now! ...Welcome brother *hugs* :D
Snip_credit
11-10-2006, 12:32 AM
Just think if Chloe and Clark do hook up there will be two pregnant girls in Clark's life. Just wait Lana tells Lex he isn't the father, it was Johnathan. Oops I said to much.
Seriously let him meet someone already for more then an episode and not while on Red K either.
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 12:33 AM
Awwww You are a Chlarker now! ...Welcome brother *hugs*
Ok Cl.......Wait a minute, did you say hug?:D *Hugs back*
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by chlarklove
She knew his secret and he could be open and free around her.
Same goes for Kyla.
Agree,plus at that time chloe didn't kno the secret.Who's to say he'd do this now :D .Which is why tptb aren't goin that route,it was believable back then but wouldn't be now.Not unless they wanna close the door on chlark,which tptb doesn't seem to wanna do
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 12:34 AM
Yes he makes a move on anygirl,but doesn't go makeout in public wit jus anyone.The way he acted in rush was diff than in heat wit jessie.He was attracted to the girls nonetheless,that's what redk did.It brought out feelings he had buried meanin he was still attracted to chloe.I mean simone was usin sum sort of redk in her medallion and he didn't hit on lois or anyone.At that moment he was attracted to her,which is what clark does when he's on redk.He acts out what he feels,that's like him gettin on redk now.Who would he chase after...tho he isn't over lana I doubt it be her
He planned on kissing and probably making out in public with Jesse. Lana stopped him before he did anything as did the guys who tried to stop him.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
He planned on kissing and probably making out in public with Jesse. Lana stopped him before he did anything as did the guys who tried to stop him.
Actually the guys in the bar stopped him,yes she stopped them from kissin but we dont kno how far it would have went.But wit chlark in rush they were told to get a room/takin clothes off.So its arguable what would have happen,and the point is he still showed interest in her from so it was understandable.Before jessie we were lead to believe he only had eyes for lana,but bein on redk showed he was still a guy(Which I'm not mad at :D ).
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 12:40 AM
Being on Red K showed he was h...... you know. When he's on red k he's like what every guy dreams of doing, going around and making out with hott girls......
ma200
11-10-2006, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by chlarklove
She knew his secret and he could be open and free around her.
Same goes for Kyla.
Is that the only reason?
How about romantic attraction? Doesn't that also factor in? Certainly seems that way for Clark and Lana and it seems to be the only factor for those two.
Clark and Chloe are good friends. I don't see how romance b/w them would make them any more interesting.
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 12:43 AM
Certainly seems that way for Clark and Lana and it seems to be the only factor for those two.
I'm feeling I should resent that comment.....*Looks around suspeciously*
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Being on Red K showed he was h...... you know. When he's on red k he's like what every guy dreams of doing, going around and making out with hott girls......
Yes ur right he is but only to girls he's attracted to,otherwise he would have done sumthin wit the girls durin s3.When the bartender said he was in there everynight wit a diff girl yet left alone.So yes he becomes h...well ya kno lol,but the girls he does mess around wit still play a part to the redk affect.He is still attracted to them,wit other girls he's jus the average guy that will holla at any female that's showin sum skin.That's the diff,I agree he does become the average guy but to a certain extent,he still only goes thru wit things wit girls he is hidin feelings for.
ma200
11-10-2006, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I'm feeling I should resent that comment.....*Looks around suspeciously*
It's not a bad thing. Romance is about love and idealism. :p
Nice seeing u again, SVM. Things got boring for me when u weren't around.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by ma200
Is that the only reason?
How about romantic attraction? Doesn't that also factor in? Certainly seems that way for Clark and Lana and it seems to be the only factor for those two.
Clark and Chloe are good friends. I don't see how romance b/w them would make them any more interesting.
Wit lana yes,but I think chlarklove was speakin on those who knew the secret.Why clark still picked them over chloe,that's why...cause the knew part of his secret/he thought they accepted him.That had nothin to do wit lana,for lana I agree it was feelings there,but it doesn't change that he was torn between the 2 for the first 2 seasons.He jus chose lana,but I dont think that's what chlarklove was implyin tho
chlarklove
11-10-2006, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by ma200
Is that the only reason?
How about romantic attraction? Doesn't that also factor in? Certainly seems that way for Clark and Lana and it seems to be the only factor for those two.
Clark and Chloe are good friends. I don't see how romance b/w them would make them any more interesting.
Oh, I'm not saying he wasn't attracted to them. But what always gets pointed out is that Clark went for these other girls instead of Chloe when he had the opportunity to date her. But the main thing is that they both knew his secret.
Chloe made it clear to Clark in Vortex that she thought they would be better off as friends, and he thought that's what she wanted. Fool. So he put her back in the "friends zone." That doesn't negate the fact that he was and still is attracted to her (that is all subjective however and some people don't see it so whatever), RUSH highlighted it.
ma200
11-10-2006, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
Wit lana yes,but I think chlarklove was speakin on those who knew the secret.Why clark still picked them over chloe,that's why...cause the knew part of his secret/he thought they accepted him.That had nothin to do wit lana,for lana I agree it was feelings there,but it doesn't change that he was torn between the 2 for the first 2 seasons.He jus chose lana,but I dont think that's what chlarklove was implyin tho
I don't buy it.
U don't date someone unless you really like that person in that way. That will always factor in, even if there are other reasons with it as well.
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 12:55 AM
It's not a bad thing. Romance is about love and idealism.
I know, i live by that....:D
Nice seeing u again, SVM. Things got boring for me when u weren't around
I missed you too. I actually think about the old board sometimes. And I know I bring the excitement with me;) But i'm always around, in the clana section. I don't imagine i'll be hanging around these sections for much longer....So you could always visit me in the clana sections.
chlark=destiny
11-10-2006, 01:01 AM
I personally thought that Clark was JEALOUS. The way he looked at Lollie was totally different than the look he gave Chloe. Clark seemed happy for Lollie, but he seemed sad when he noticed that Chloe was getting a text from Jimmy. At first, he was smiling at her happily, then all of a sudden his smile dropped, when he discovered that Jimmy was probably the one texting her.
So, is CHLARK dead? I say NO, NO, NO!!!!:D
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by ma200
I don't buy it.
U don't date someone unless you really like that person in that way. That will always factor in, even if there are other reasons with it as well.
Yes in general,but this is clark were talkin about,each time was durin a time he thought he couldn't tell lana.So he was lookin for sumone to understand and accept him in the episodes before.This has more to do wit khyla&Alicia then lana.For lana I agree but wit the other 2 girls its because of how they met.They met witness his powers an accepted him(So he thought),so that played a big factor to their hookups.So I agree if he was human then yes I wouldn't buy it either unless their were feelings involved.But since he is not human,its understandable that his reasons were cause they accepted his powers.
ma200
11-10-2006, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by chlarklove
Chloe made it clear to Clark in Vortex that she thought they would be better off as friends, and he thought that's what she wanted. Fool. So he put her back in the "friends zone." That doesn't negate the fact that he was and still is attracted to her (that is all subjective however and some people don't see it so whatever), RUSH highlighted it.
I didn't hear him b#$@h about Chloe dating someone else like he did with Lana and Lex...so really, he obviously making a big deal out of this.
Clark thinks Chloe is hot. Ok, I believe that. He's not blind.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by chlarklove
Oh, I'm not saying he wasn't attracted to them. But what always gets pointed out is that Clark went for these other girls instead of Chloe when he had the opportunity to date her. But the main thing is that they both knew his secret.
Chloe made it clear to Clark in Vortex that she thought they would be better off as friends, and he thought that's what she wanted. Fool. So he put her back in the "friends zone." That doesn't negate the fact that he was and still is attracted to her (that is all subjective however and some people don't see it so whatever), RUSH highlighted it.
I agree,which is why even lana tells him in rush she knows why chloe was kissin,but why was he kissin back.Drugged or not he still has those feelings he jus put her in that friend zone at her own choice.He thinks that what she was afraid of wit their ship,so he agree cause he doesn't wanna lose her either.Now tho the tables have turned and he's in her shoes lookin at her try to move on while processin his feelings for her.I dont think it'll comeout til the season finale when chlimmy has time to die down,cause for now chlimmy will be dragged out.But durin that time clark will start to show his feelings more and more,jus as chloe did durin clana last season.The other wont see the expressions and both will think the other isn't interested.The only diff this time is jimmy is constantly around and he will notice it for them.Cop out yes,but I see him callin them on their feelings.Doesn't mean the feelings aren't there tho I agree
ma200
11-10-2006, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by D.M.A.
Yes in general,but this is clark were talkin about,each time was durin a time he thought he couldn't tell lana.So he was lookin for sumone to understand and accept him in the episodes before.This has more to do wit khyla&Alicia then lana.For lana I agree but wit the other 2 girls its because of how they met.They met witness his powers an accepted him(So he thought),so that played a big factor to their hookups.So I agree if he was human then yes I wouldn't buy it either unless their were feelings involved.But since he is not human,its understandable that his reasons were cause they accepted his powers.
Hmmm...if the whole "understanding thing" is such a huge reason then I expect some major liplocking b/w Clark and Ollie. :lol:
I mean really, he could be friends with those girls and they'd still understand him. Just like Chloe.
MsSullivan
11-10-2006, 01:15 AM
Clark won't get in between Chloe and Jimmy because Jimmy is a good guy. Lex is dangerous, both Chloe and Clark now this. Clark, like the hero that he is, is worried that Lana may get hurt.
Clark won't make a move on Chloe until she is free. Clark is not the kind of guy to get in between a relationship like that, that would be Lex (see Hypnotic).
I think once Chimmy is over (4 more episodes TG!) we will see Chlark, not immediately but maybe come the season finale. We haven't seen the yearly Chlark kiss and I think this time it will have to be Clark doing the pouncing.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by ma200
I didn't hear him b#$@h about Chloe dating someone else like he did with Lana and Lex...so really, he obviously making a big deal out of this.
Clark thinks Chloe is hot. Ok, I believe that. He's not blind.
But he hasn't b#$@h about lexana lately tho,he is slowly comin around to them and jus acceptin it.There is a diff wit lana and chloe dating imo.He believes chloe put her feelings aside along time ago,so that vessel kiss shocked him.When he came back and saw it shot down it bothered him,unlike lexana is doin this season.He will spend most of the season processin those feelings,but at sum point they have to talk about their feelings,cause lets be honest they both lied in Zod.And ur right he is attracted to chloe,he's not blind :D .But hey that's a start
ma200
11-10-2006, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by MsSullivan
Clark won't get in between Chloe and Jimmy because Jimmy is a good guy. Lex is dangerous, both Chloe and Clark now this. Clark, like the hero that he is, is worried that Lana may get hurt.
Clark has complained every time Lana is not available. Even when she was with Whitney. Just because he's not doing something about it, does not mean it doesn't bug him.
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 01:23 AM
We've been down this road many times before. If it didn't happen then, it isn't going to happen now. Clark has proven before that when the situation is right he will go after a girl. The situation with Chloe was right in Vortex, but he stopped. If there's nothing BIG in Clark's way, such as a boyfriend or a secret, he will take that leap, he's done it before. He hasn't done it with Chloe. Like I said before, it has been six years and Chlarkers always point out some sort of sign every year. So after six years, it's on I'll believe it when it happens approach.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by ma200
Hmmm...if the whole "understanding thing" is such a huge reason then I expect some major liplocking b/w Clark and Ollie. :lol:
I mean really, he could be friends with those girls and they'd still understand him. Just like Chloe.
Back in s2 and s3 he didn't kno that tho,maybe now its arguable but not back then.Back then it wasn't a fact that lana could except him,khyla,alicia anyone...But once he showed his powers infront of those 2(Khyla,Alicia),and they still took interest in him then he felt comfortable around them.That's why lana makes the comment about clark not openin up yet she guess he was waitin for the right one.It was more about comfort wit those 2,wit both girls he felt comfortable around them cause they knew him.So that played a bigger part in his affection for them then the actual attraction.Cause we were bein lead to believe when he met them that he only had eyes for lana,then those 2 came along.So yes it was more about them knowin his powers than him bein jus attracted otherwise he would have went after lana instead.
Originally posted by MsSullivan
Clark won't get in between Chloe and Jimmy because Jimmy is a good guy. Lex is dangerous, both Chloe and Clark now this. Clark, like the hero that he is, is worried that Lana may get hurt.
Clark won't make a move on Chloe until she is free. Clark is not the kind of guy to get in between a relationship like that, that would be Lex (see Hypnotic).
I think once Chimmy is over (4 more episodes TG!) we will see Chlark, not immediately but maybe come the season finale. We haven't seen the yearly Chlark kiss and I think this time it will have to be Clark doing the pouncing.
I agree,it shouldn't suprise those anti's sayin he isn't goin after her that he's not.Its not like clark to go after a girl who is involved have feelings yes,but not try to take her.That's more of lex style,so I agree when chlimmy breaksup chlark wont' hop straight into a ship but they will express their feelings before he leaves to train.And I 2 am bettin on him bein the one to kiss her this season,so I agree
Originally posted by ma200
Clark has complained every time Lana is not available. Even when she was with Whitney. Just because he's not doing something about it, does not mean it doesn't bug him.
Yes true I think that's what sum chlarkers r tryin to get sum anti's to see,that jus cause he doesn't make a move doesn't mean he doesn't feel anythin.I agree he did have feelings for lana thru all her bfs in the past yet he never tried to take her from them,if he thought she was happy he accepted it.Painfully yes,but he accepted it.And the same is happenin now wit chloe,he thinks she's tired of waitin on him and is happy wit jimmy,but it doesn't erase the fact that he feels sumthin for her.Thats all I'm tryin to say,so I agree wit u in sum wayz :D ,it jus also goes for chloe to imo
ma200
11-10-2006, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
We've been down this road many times before. If it didn't happen then, it isn't going to happen now.
That's as good an argument as it can get. Besides, even IF they did get together, Almiles is going to crap on them like they did to Clark and Lana, and Martha and Johnathan (given tonight's episode). :lol:
Goodnight and goodbye to u all!
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 01:31 AM
That's as good an argument as it can get. Besides, even IF they did get together, Almiles is going to crap on them like they did to Clark and Lana, and Martha and Johnathan (given tonight's episode).
Exactly. I can't believe that would do that to Martha's character. Althought, I did suspect they would ruin her too after the comments she made in Hyponotic when talking to Clark about Lana. I can't believe they could ruin Martha.....I mean honestly, how could you ruin the easiest character on the show?
MsSullivan
11-10-2006, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by ma200
Clark has complained every time Lana is not available. Even when she was with Whitney. Just because he's not doing something about it, does not mean it doesn't bug him.
Well Whitney IYR, strung him up in a field as a scarecrow. I wouldn't call him such a nice guy. And while Clark is not actively telling anyone how he feels about Chloe and Jimmy, we can see it.
Zod+Wither we saw a jealous Clark and mopey (he didn't see lollie or lexana so we know he was mopey about chimmy). Now in Rage we see as dreamy looking Clark with just the right lyrics to accompany his sentiments.
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 01:32 AM
Well Whitney IYR, stung him up in a field as a scarecrow. I wouldn't call him such a nice guy. And while Clark is not actively telling anyone how he feels about Chloe and Jimmy, we can see it.
Could it be, because you want to see it? Hmmmmm.....
MsSullivan
11-10-2006, 01:33 AM
No. It's because its there. Maybe you don't want to see it.....
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
We've been down this road many times before. If it didn't happen then, it isn't going to happen now. Clark has proven before that when the situation is right he will go after a girl. The situation with Chloe was right in Vortex, but he stopped. If there's nothing BIG in Clark's way, such as a boyfriend or a secret, he will take that leap, he's done it before. He hasn't done it with Chloe. Like I said before, it has been six years and Chlarkers always point out some sort of sign every year. So after six years, it's on I'll believe it when it happens approach.
But he thought it was her choice in vortex that affected his decision,otherwise he wouldn't have offered to make it up to her.He made it clear he was willing to do anythin and she said lets be friends not him.Yes he accepted but after he thought that's what SHE wants,plus his secret was still an issue there,and remember they were searchin for his lost dad at the time.Clark judgment was screwed,I blame her for vortex more so then him.Tho things were crazy he was still willing to make it up to her,but she spoke up out of a defense that he would leave her again.So I wouldn't count that against chlark.Now she knows the secret and they've shared a kiss since she's known and he's been single its diff.If nothin happens late in the season then yea I agree nothin never will happen.But for right now most chlarkers kno chlimmy will last up til AA last appearance,but what happens wit chlark afterwards is the question.I think the outcome now will be diff than vortex
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 01:36 AM
No. It's because its there. Maybe you don't want to see it.....
:lol: I saw that one coming, hehehhehe. It's funny how some people can interupt looks, when one look can mean a hundred different things. It's been clearly and I mean CLEARLY pointed out that's he's been moping over Lana. And until otherwise proven, Lana is his top moping thing, not Chloe and Jimmy. Despite these secret looks Clark has.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Could it be, because you want to see it? Hmmmmm.....
U kno the same could be said to u not seein it,its easy to disagree and understandable.But the signs so far this yr lean towards a future hookup or atleast tension between chlark.Cause they haven't resolved the vessel kiss fo real,they both lied in Zod,and at sum point it'll come out.
Kreukie
11-10-2006, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by MsSullivan
Now in Rage we see as dreamy looking Clark with just the right lyrics to accompany his sentiments.
Funny how you and I saw that totally different…
To me that scene showed how alone both Clark and Lana were.
Then the lyrics kind of represented what they had in the past and what Clark wish he could had with her now.
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 01:39 AM
But he thought it was her choice in vortex that affected his decision,otherwise he wouldn't have offered to make it up to her.He made it clear he was willing to do anythin and she said lets be friends not him.Yes he accepted but after he thought that's what SHE wants,plus his secret was still an issue there,and remember they were searchin for his lost dad at the time.Clark judgment was screwed,I blame her for vortex more so then him.Tho things were crazy he was still willing to make it up to her,but she spoke up out of a defense that he would leave her again.So I wouldn't count that against chlark.Now she knows the secret and they've shared a kiss since she's known and he's been single its diff.If nothin happens late in the season then yea I agree nothin never will happen.But for right now most chlarkers kno chlimmy will last up til AA last appearance,but what happens wit chlark afterwards is the question.I think the outcome now will be diff than vortex
In vortex? You mean the episode where Chloe said they're better off being friends and Clark was like okay, never thought twice about it? We're talking about that? Clark brushed that moment off like it was a jog in the park.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
:lol: I saw that one coming, hehehhehe. It's funny how some people can interupt looks, when one look can mean a hundred different things. It's been clearly and I mean CLEARLY pointed out that's he's been moping over Lana. And until otherwise proven, Lana is his top moping thing, not Chloe and Jimmy. Despite these secret looks Clark has.
Well tonight when he was at the mansion yes I agree he was showin signs,but I wouldn't say he has been showin signs thruout this season.This was only their 3rd scene together come on now.As for chlarkimmy,he's shown signs wit chloe even when jimmy wasn't around,and its more obvious when jimmy is around.Even jimmy shows his signs towards clark,cause even he knows he was imposin in Zod.
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 01:41 AM
U kno the same could be said to u not seein it,its easy to disagree and understandable.But the signs so far this yr lean towards a future hookup or atleast tension between chlark.Cause they haven't resolved the vessel kiss fo real,they both lied in Zod,and at sum point it'll come out.
Yeah, they were also signs in season 3, season 4, season 5, season 2, according to Chlark fans. And yet here we are in season 6 with nothing to show of it. I guarantee the vessel kiss is over with, Clark has forgotten it, just like he's forgotten or brushed off all those "romantic" Chloe moments.
RedPhoenix23
11-10-2006, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
Well, not a very good episode for Chlark. I thought soemthing was going to happen at the thanksgiving supper but nope, the damn Jimmy Olsen send a message to Chloe right when Clark was looking at her! He even smiled when he saw Chloe...but went a lil down in same time, maybe he noticed something(like he's alone lol) I'm really sad for Clark. But I still think that soemthing need to happen between them.
So do you guys think the romantic Chlark possiblilitys are dead now?
It's dead and has been dead for a long time. Sorry!
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
In vortex? You mean the episode where Chloe said they're better off being friends and Clark was like okay, never thought twice about it? We're talking about that? Clark brushed that moment off like it was a jog in the park.
But what were they doin when it happen,lookin for his father r u sayin he wasn't more important.Or clark reactions to the police not findin him(He even says to lana JK was missin over 12 hrs)wasn't clogged sum.He was in need of his father who went off chasin sumone threaten to expose him,so when his best friend said that's ok lets jus stay friends yes he did agree wit no 2nd thought.But who's to say he wouldn't have thought diff if his father wasn't missin,that's my point,u can't hold that against them cause of the situation at hand.She told him not to leave her he promise yet left anyways,she was hurt yes...She got scared and said lets be friends but it doesn't ignore that it was her thoughts.Clark wasn't thinkin that,he jus agreed
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 01:44 AM
But what were they doin when it happen,lookin for his father r u sayin he wasn't more important.Or clark reactions to the police not findin him(He even says to lana JK was missin over 12 hrs)wasn't clogged sum.He was in need of his father who went off chasin sumone threaten to expose him,so when his best friend said that's ok lets jus stay friends yes he did agree wit no 2nd thought.But who's to say he wouldn't have thought diff if his father wasn't missin,that's my point,u can't hold that against them cause of the situation at hand.She told him not to leave her he promise yet left anyways,she was hurt yes...She got scared and said lets be friends but it doesn't ignore that it was her thoughts.Clark wasn't thinkin that,he jus agreed
I don't buy that, because despite what was going on his dad he still would have a reaction if it were Lana. He brushed it off and never spoke of it again. Heck, even during JK's funeral he acknowledge Lana and the fact he was losing her.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Yeah, they were also signs in season 3, season 4, season 5, season 2, according to Chlark fans. And yet here we are in season 6 with nothing to show of it. I guarantee the vessel kiss is over with, Clark has forgotten it, just like he's forgotten or brushed off all those "romantic" Chloe moments.
But see not all fans believe that tho,that's jus u assumin all chlark fans complain about signs every season.I jus became a chlark fan last season,I was for clana.I for one saw last season as a slow buildup at sum point,the kiss jus let me kno that it jus may happen later on.But it doesn't ignore that they've shown signs thruout this season so far.By even havin tension between both clark/jimmy,its there whether u wanna admit or not.Its cool to disagree,but not all chlark fans r jus makin excuses :D
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 01:46 AM
Some signs mean nothing. I could break out a baseball analogy for you;)
Kreukie
11-10-2006, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Yeah, they were also signs in season 3, season 4, season 5, season 2, according to Chlark fans. And yet here we are in season 6 with nothing to show of it. I guarantee the vessel kiss is over with, Clark has forgotten it, just like he's forgotten or brushed off all those "romantic" Chloe moments.
Yeah, all those Chlark moments have always been started by Chloe.
There's never been a time where Clark went out of his way to kiss Chloe without Chloe meeting him half-way.
Like it never crosses Clark's mind, but with Chloe every chance she gets, she's on top of it!
If Clark was a girl, he could pass sexual harassment charges on Chloe. :lol:
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I don't buy that, because despite what was going on his dad he still would have a reaction if it were Lana. He brushed it off and never spoke of it again. Heck, even during JK's funeral he acknowledge Lana and the fact he was losing her.
No we dont kno that cause this was a time when she was wit whitney,and we dont kno if he would have accepted it or not.If lana back in the early season said she wanted to remain friends he would accept what he could get cause he didn't wanna lose the friendship.He even tells her that while tellin her chloe gave him advice about pursuin sumone else(Her).He makes it clear that the friendship is the most important thing to him,so we dont kno what he would have done if it was lana and not chloe(And his dad missin).I mean come on his dad was missin,that clogged his judgement that's why more ppl fault chloe in that scene than clark,cause he was ready to make things up.But she shot it down,and wit all the confusion he jus said ok.
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 01:49 AM
No we dont kno that cause this was a time when she was wit whitney,and we dont kno if he would have accepted it or not.If lana back in the early season said she wanted to remain friends he would accept what he could get cause he didn't wanna lose the friendship.He even tells her that while tellin her chloe gave him advice about pursuin sumone else(Her).He makes it clear that the friendship is the most important thing to him,so we dont kno what he would have done if it was lana and not chloe(And his dad missin).I mean come on his dad was missin,that clogged his judgement that's why more ppl fault chloe in that scene than clark,cause he was ready to make things up.But she shot it down,and wit all the confusion he jus said ok.
If Lana wasn't with Whitney and she said that, then Clark would react. He didn't seem to care at all that Chloe just wanted to be friends, he didn't flinch!
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by Kreukie
Yeah, all those Chlark moments have always been started by Chloe.
There's never been a time where Clark went out of his way to kiss Chloe without Chloe meeting him half-way.
Like it never crosses Clark's mind, but with Chloe every chance she gets, she's on top of it!
If Clark was a girl, he could pass sexual harassment charges on Chloe. :lol:
I wouldn't say that since the s1,2,4 she was possesed/under the influence.So she had no control over her desire...As for clark never crossin his mind to kiss her,check tempest again.He was on the verge of kissin her(D@mn those tornadoes).So I'd say yes he has had the thought before,has he ever no so ur right sumwhat.But that's why I think if they do the annual kiss this yr it'll be him to initiate it,cause we've yet to see him go thru wit a kiss where she didn't start it
Kreukie
11-10-2006, 01:54 AM
I said:
There's never been a time where Clark went out of his way to kiss Chloe without Chloe meeting him half-way.
Meaning Clark has never ever tried to lay one on Chloe without her realizing it, unlike all the times Chloe has done that to him throughout the series.
I can think of two times she done it when she wasn't possesed or under the influence.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
If Lana wasn't with Whitney and she said that, then Clark would react. He didn't seem to care at all that Chloe just wanted to be friends, he didn't flinch!
WE dont kno that we can assume,but we dont kno and never will.So u can't hold that against chloe since we dont kno how clark would have reacted if it was lana.His dad was missin I do believe whether it was her or lana,his judgement would have still been off.Cause he knew why his father was missin,he was chasin nixon who threaten to expose clark.So imo its not fair to say that he didn't think twice to chloe because he didn't care,when it was obvious that his dad bein missin because of him
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 01:55 AM
Like I said, Clark reacted to losing Lana at his dad's funeral. So i'm pretty sure it's safe to assume he would react to Lana if his dad was missing.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by Kreukie
I said:
There's never been a time where Clark went out of his way to kiss Chloe without Chloe meeting him half-way.
Meaning Clark has never ever tried to lay one on Chloe with realizing it, unlike all the times Chloe has done that to him throughout the series.
I can think of two times she done it when she wasn't possesed or under the influence.
Yes and those 2 would be s3 and s5,yes I agree...But as for clark not wantin to kiss her while realizin I say he did.Well not really he tried in tempest but was interrupted,I was pointin that out since it was said that it never crossed his mind to kiss her.Which in that scene it did,he almost kissed her.Yes he still hasn't but he's thought of it,and 2 out of 5 kisses possessed is still sayin sumthin.Vessel was the only kiss where I jus felt she wanted to put her lips on him as ur suggesting lol.The one in magnetic was a coverup jus a spare of the moment type
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Like I said, Clark reacted to losing Lana at his dad's funeral. So i'm pretty sure it's safe to assume he would react to Lana if his dad was missing.
No I disagree,at the funeral she came held his hand and let it go,he didn't follow her or even look at her.He was more concern wit his father,he thought he saved lana but didn't expect to lose JK at the same time.So no lana had no effect on him at that moment atleast not at the funeral,dont kno what u saw :D
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 02:02 AM
No I disagree,at the funeral she came held his hand and let it go,he didn't follow her or even look at her.He was more concern wit his father,he thought he saved lana but didn't expect to lose JK at the same time.So no lana had no effect on him at that moment atleast not at the funeral,dont kno what u saw
Well, then maybe you need to watch it again. Because you can CLEARLY see Clark's shoulder slumping to Lana's after they released hands. Which happened be one of those slow releases, not to mention the fact that Clark held her hands as well.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Well, then maybe you need to watch it again. Because you can CLEARLY see Clark's shoulder slumping to Lana's after they released hands. Which happened be one of those slow releases, not to mention the fact that Clark held her hands as well.
yes he held her hand but he showed more concern about his father death then losin lana(Which we find out in the next episode he didn't lose her).So No I still disagree,yes he held her hand but showed no signs of missin her at that moment.I can't believe u actually see him puttin lana over his dads disappeance & death.Both were hard times for clark,not even lana could make him feel better fact
SmallvilleMan
11-10-2006, 02:08 AM
yes he held her hand but he showed more concern about his father death then losin lana(Which we find out in the next episode he didn't lose her).So No I still disagree,yes he held her hand but showed no signs of missin her at that moment.I can't believe u actually see him puttin lana over his dads disappeance & death.Both were hard times for clark,not even lana could make him feel better fact
I said he reacted to her, I said nothing about him being more concerned with Lana than he would with his dad. Reacting to Lana doesn't mean he's more concerned with her. It just means that losing her is important as well, just because his dad died, doesnt mean he can't react to another loss as well.
topdeck
11-10-2006, 02:39 AM
Chlark deniers. :rolleyes:
savingpeoplething
11-10-2006, 05:00 AM
"Rage" was another example of how Chlark is NOT dead...
1) The dinner put everyone in couples: Lois/Ollie, Martha/Lionel, and Chloe/Clark. That's no accident.
2) The text message from Jimmy seems like it was either a) reimphasizing the holidays focusing on the people you care about OR b) a big hokin' moment of foreshadowing to indicate some Chlarkimmy triangle action coming up
3) When Clark looks at everyone in the room, he first looks at Lois and Ollie and smiles, scans to Martha and Lionel, and then, finally lands on Chloe...I think that's significant.
There's been WAY too much foreshadowing for Chlark to be together at some point in the series, so I wouldn't put it down so quickly :)
EllenF
11-10-2006, 05:36 AM
"Rage" was another example of how Chlark is NOT dead...
Absolutely. Clark was perfectly okay with Lois dating Ollie, and his interactions with Lana seemed like those of a caring friend. But the Thanksgiving scene was set up clearly in couples-- and Clark and Chloe were one of the couples.
Furthermore, Clark definitely smiled at Lois and Ollie macking (not in a jealous way but in a happy, I'm-so-pleased-for-them way), then looked over at Chloe with a wistful, hopeful expression on her face. Cut to her getting a text message (and from her expression, it was obvious who the message was from), and his face fell. Meanwhile, here are the lyrics: "I wish that love was all it took (Clark looks at Chloe), I'd fall into you if I could, hoping for a graceful recovery, (Chloe gets Jimmy's text), but I know now (Clark's smile fades)." The directing and acting in that scene were quite obvious-- he's interested in Chloe, but she's not interested in him... right now.
And just as a side note, did anyone note that when Clark visited Chloe at the DP, instead of the two of them walking side by side as they always do... he was following her the whole time? Yet another subtle suggestion of who's interested in pursuing whom this time around:) .
InLove_with_Chloe
11-10-2006, 07:15 AM
I was surprised the camera focussed on Chloe for so long. However, I am not willing to interpret anything into that. Off-screen mention of Jimmy was very important. I didn't see true Clark jealousy, but then this guy's particularly difficult to read, IMO... I somehow had the feeling that his look could also have meant that he missed Lana at the dinner table. Not romantically, I mean, just as a friend. Because the next scenee was her with Lex, at the mansion.
Chlark is as dead as it's always been, maybe a little more, simply because time keeps running out, IMO...
margroks
11-10-2006, 08:31 AM
Of course not; it's not at all dead. It's remained a possibility since season one for a reason though I wish they'd have gotten to it already. The scene at the table last night was a clear as bell advert for it. Clark has shown throughout the ep he cares about helping Ollie and Nois get back together and seemed quite genuinely happy for them in that particular scene. Then he turns to Chloe, who is sitting in the place of greatest i mportance at Clark's right hand, (JO is not at the table for a reason here) and watched her answer her cell and the smile slips a little and he looks away. And that is beside the song playing in the background which is another BIG clue.
jaybyrd28
11-10-2006, 08:48 AM
Clana was dead once too...
derickla
11-10-2006, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by margroks
[B And that is beside the song playing in the background which is another BIG clue. [/B]
What was the song in the background? My wife was talking to me.
Billy Jor-El
11-10-2006, 09:53 AM
I'm late jumping on this thread, so excuse if some points have already been bantered about.
I did not see Clark as jealous, but almost a big brother pleased that Chloe saw something that made her smile (he didn't know the nature of the message, it could have been from Lana for all he knew). He still doesn't know what he wants, and in the meantime those around him are just going to move on.
But very interestingly was the scene that followed with Lexana. Together, yet apart. Sitting far apart at separate ends of the big table, each with their own waiter to cater to their needs. No, they were not together on Thanksgiving.
Rhoda123
11-10-2006, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by chlarklove
Nope, it's not dead. She's just with Jimmy "the obstacle" Olsen right now. And that won't last long.
Just gotta have some patience. The most important thing to remember is it's supposed to be worth the wait. :p
Amen to that last statement!!! I don't think it is dead.. maybe on sebaticle for now but I think and pray and hope with ALL of my heart that they revisit the Chlark again..
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I said he reacted to her, I said nothing about him being more concerned with Lana than he would with his dad. Reacting to Lana doesn't mean he's more concerned with her. It just means that losing her is important as well, just because his dad died, doesnt mean he can't react to another loss as well.
But couldn't that have been said for vortex he did react to her by jus askin her for another date.He was shot down,told to remain friends then he agreed cause his father bein gone kicked back in.But like u said it doesn't mean he didn't show a reaction,even in Vessel/Zod he shows a reaction tho the world was in danger.And that was recent,what I'm sayin is if u figure that he showed lana sum concern when his dad died,then I say we should count him doin the same wit chloe in vortex when JK was missin.He didn't chase after neither(Lana let his hand go/Chloe told him lets be friends)but that doesn't mean there wasn't a reaction at first.
Originally posted by EllenF
Absolutely. Clark was perfectly okay with Lois dating Ollie, and his interactions with Lana seemed like those of a caring friend. But the Thanksgiving scene was set up clearly in couples-- and Clark and Chloe were one of the couples.
Furthermore, Clark definitely smiled at Lois and Ollie macking (not in a jealous way but in a happy, I'm-so-pleased-for-them way), then looked over at Chloe with a wistful, hopeful expression on her face. Cut to her getting a text message (and from her expression, it was obvious who the message was from), and his face fell. Meanwhile, here are the lyrics: "I wish that love was all it took (Clark looks at Chloe), I'd fall into you if I could, hoping for a graceful recovery, (Chloe gets Jimmy's text), but I know now (Clark's smile fades)." The directing and acting in that scene were quite obvious-- he's interested in Chloe, but she's not interested in him... right now.
And just as a side note, did anyone note that when Clark visited Chloe at the DP, instead of the two of them walking side by side as they always do... he was following her the whole time? Yet another subtle suggestion of who's interested in pursuing whom this time around:) .
Ya see I need tivo or wait for it to pop on youtube so I can rewind,I'm good at missin small things like this when it airs :mad: .That's why I never comment on those key moments cause I kno sumone like ellen/khufu etc will :D .
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
I was surprised the camera focussed on Chloe for so long. However, I am not willing to interpret anything into that. Off-screen mention of Jimmy was very important. I didn't see true Clark jealousy, but then this guy's particularly difficult to read, IMO... I somehow had the feeling that his look could also have meant that he missed Lana at the dinner table. Not romantically, I mean, just as a friend. Because the next scenee was her with Lex, at the mansion.
Chlark is as dead as it's always been, maybe a little more, simply because time keeps running out, IMO...
Well what I got from the clana scene at the tables was alil diff but similar.Yes he may have missed havin her a friend there,but then that could be said as for lex also.Which is why I dont think it was about her(JK yes,Chloe maybe so but not lexana).As for lana she has sum big news for lex so she's still in shock.If anythin it shows that both clark/lana r by ppl who luv them yet they look to be hurt/alone.I dont think chlark is dead jus yet cause there r too many signs.Also I agree havin jimmy mention offscreen was a good touch cause he was never mention before.Plus his appearances r almost up,so they have to playup the triangle soon.So maybe clark look was at chloe,cause within the new few jimmy appearances I expect to see him and clark interact sum.So at sum point it have to come to heads,so maybe last night was jus a reminder(Even tho jimmy wasn't present)that clark still feels sumthin.We usually dont see it unless jimmy is around but at the table we saw sumthin.Its jus arguable what tho/for whom?
Originally posted by Billy Jor-El
I'm late jumping on this thread, so excuse if some points have already been bantered about.
I did not see Clark as jealous, but almost a big brother pleased that Chloe saw something that made her smile (he didn't know the nature of the message, it could have been from Lana for all he knew). He still doesn't know what he wants, and in the meantime those around him are just going to move on.
But very interestingly was the scene that followed with Lexana. Together, yet apart. Sitting far apart at separate ends of the big table, each with their own waiter to cater to their needs. No, they were not together on Thanksgiving.
ya see that's the thing I find it hard to believe he thought it was from lana,by the way chloe lit up.She smiled as if the message was from jimmy,what message exactly clark doesn't kno but I'm sure he knows it was from jimmy.Plus his smile fades and he looks down,as if it hit me he was alone.Even wit chloe there without her bf he still felt like he wasn't alone til he saw that message then it hit him.
lastdaughterofkrypton
11-10-2006, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
Ok Cl.......Wait a minute, did you say hug?:D *Hugs back*
Ok then I hug even if you are an anti....but don't get use to it :lol:
InLove_with_Chloe
11-10-2006, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by derickla
What was the song in the background? My wife was talking to me.
Yeah that's what they always do in these crucial scenes, don't they?
To be fair: I also do it when she watches somehting...
:lol:
lastdaughterofkrypton
11-10-2006, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
I somehow had the feeling that his look could also have meant that he missed Lana at the dinner table. Not romantically, I mean, just as a friend. Because the next scenee was her with Lex, at the mansion.
There was an empty seat in the table if it would had mean to show him missing Lana he would had look at it and then we will have had Lexana's table scene so it wasn't that it was to show something that he realized is true it might had been he thinking that maybe he and Chloe could be the next couple and then after seeing her smiling at her cell phone he remembered the Jimmy's factor but he could also realized that he is the only one alone. There were two posibilities, but even then I think is strange that they choosed not to have Jimmy at the table with them hmmm ;)
Superman_Beyond
11-10-2006, 11:21 AM
They probably can't have Lois and Jimmy meet yet. Could be a restriction.
jimmy sent chloe the cute little 'i miss you' text and made sure that the audience saw chloe's happy reaction and clark's happy reaction. the writers wanted to show chloe moving on and clark being happy about her new relationship. chlark is dead.
margroks
11-10-2006, 12:04 PM
Except he wasn't that happy. He did see who it was from and his face fell a little although he did try to mask it. The seating arrangement, the fact that Chloe was positioned to his right signifies her importance. Lois could have been placed next to him with Ollie on the other side and I can hear the screaming now. Oh this is so important because Nois is his true love but because it's Chloe we get, no it menat nothing. The fact is that placing someone to your right (hence the later term, "right hand man") is always a sign of tremendous importance. Okay, now I've alreaduy forgotten the name of the song. I'll try to find out and quote the exact words.
"I wish that love was all it took, I'd fall into you if I could..."now I have to dig up the artist. I think it was the artist/band featured at the end. ANyone?
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by Superman_Beyond
They probably can't have Lois and Jimmy meet yet. Could be a restriction.
Well from AA interview he says he rubs lois the wrong way so I'm guessin they dont have a restriction.But maybe,since things have changed since the season started
Originally posted by lastdaughterofkrypton
There was an empty seat in the table if it would had mean to show him missing Lana he would had look at it and then we will have had Lexana's table scene so it wasn't that it was to show something that he realized is true it might had been he thinking that maybe he and Chloe could be the next couple and then after seeing her smiling at her cell phone he remembered the Jimmy's factor but he could also realized that he is the only one alone. There were two posibilities, but even then I think is strange that they choosed not to have Jimmy at the table with them hmmm ;)
Yea I agree the scene can be looked at in many wayz,him realizin he was alone/missin his dad/wantin chloe.But it should be considered that chloe reaction is what triggered him,he saw her reaction then his smile changed.We dont kno exactly what he was thinkin yes,but to say that chloe expression didn't play a part in it is crazy to me.He looked at chloe yes maybe imaginin them sumday bein a couple but was reminded he was alone.Then again he could have been thinkin of his dad,but right before then he was jus smilin and thnkful for everyone.It was chloe gettin the txt that made him think,we jus dont kno what he's feeling.That much has to be followed up soon otherwise we will jus have to wonder
lilkoolmaria
11-10-2006, 01:20 PM
I always saw Clark and Chloe as sister and brother, so it would be kind of weird for them to hook up. No, scratch that, really weird.
ms.c.
11-10-2006, 01:38 PM
Chloe and Clark are nothing like siblings. They dated. They've been near kisses several times and full on kisses each season. Their finale kiss last season was such a hit that it was actually nominated for awards.
Jimmy is an obstacle to drag things out. It's a tv show, they have to drag things out.
InLove_with_Chloe
11-10-2006, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by ms.c.
Jimmy is an obstacle to drag things out. It's a tv show, they have to drag things out.
I agree. Chlark is not dead - in our heads it's not...
ms.c.
11-10-2006, 01:48 PM
There will be more romantic Chlark. They are keeping it on the radar by making Clark sad when he sees Chloe moving on.
MsSullivan
11-10-2006, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Billy Jor-El
I'm late jumping on this thread, so excuse if some points have already been bantered about.
I did not see Clark as jealous, but almost a big brother pleased that Chloe saw something that made her smile (he didn't know the nature of the message, it could have been from Lana for all he knew). He still doesn't know what he wants, and in the meantime those around him are just going to move on.
I disagree. Clark turned to Chloe right before she got the message. BUT if you notice, his smile faded when she got a message on her cell phone. The previous Chlark scene had set up Chloe getting messages on her phone from Jimmy, so Clark knew it must have been Jimmy texting her.
Again, I don't think he was jealous. Just wishing he could tell her how he now feels about her.
D.M.A.
11-10-2006, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by ms.c.
There will be more romantic Chlark. They are keeping it on the radar by making Clark sad when he sees Chloe moving on.
I agree,tptb r playin up that ship because they kno how popular it has become.To jus dead it now would lose sum fans,so imo it will never die(Jus as clana will never die).Doesn't mean it'll happen but it wont die either,I jus think this season we will get chlark fullon before he leaves for trainin.Cause right now she doesn't kno he's leavin,so that will be a big scene between the 2 when it happens.
lilkoolmaria
11-10-2006, 02:17 PM
I haven't seen any hints of Clark being jealous yet. I think he's actually happy for Chloe. It's really sweet and shows they have a great friendship.
MsSullivan
11-10-2006, 02:20 PM
I saw him jealous in Zod and again in Wither. Now in Rage we see a dreamy look directed at Chloe.
before the text message: http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/576/smallvilles06e07hdtvxvigk4.jpg
after the message: http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5395/smallvilles06e07hdtvxvikk0.jpg
lilkoolmaria
11-10-2006, 02:21 PM
He looks drunk after the text message. :lol:
Rhoda123
11-10-2006, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by MsSullivan
I saw him jealous in Zod and again in Wither. Now in Rage we see a dreamy look directed at Chloe.
before the text message: http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/576/smallvilles06e07hdtvxvigk4.jpg
after the message: http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5395/smallvilles06e07hdtvxvikk0.jpg
Yep, complete jealousy... I don't care what anyone says, I don't think the Chlark will ever die..
chlarkfan333
11-10-2006, 02:53 PM
Unlike romantic Clana, I think romantic Chlark can be ressurrected any time. At the moment, I think it's comatose, but not dead. I do think that the Clois kiss in 'Hydro' will be the end of any possibility of a romantic Chlark IF Clark is portrayed as having feelings for Lois post-kiss.
Khyla
11-10-2006, 03:15 PM
Chlark dead? yeah, :confused:
Am I missing something here? :
Chloe wasn't having Thanksgiving dinner with Jimmy at his mom's. She was having Thanksgiving with Clark at his mom's :D
As far as any reference to Lana, maybe it's that he is pining for that feeling of being a couple that Lana represents.
Rhoda123
11-10-2006, 03:25 PM
I think that it is a joke for them to have Clark already have feelings for Lois.. we know that she doesn't reciprocate any feelings until after she has fallen for Superman already.. so why do this? I really don't understand why they can't give Chlark a chance.. it really upsets me..
lilkoolmaria
11-10-2006, 03:27 PM
When has Clark ever had romantic feelings toward Chloe? They're just great friends. It's the same thing.
cotton candy girl
11-10-2006, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Chlark is not dead - in our heads it's not...
That I agree with. :p :)
LovelyLoisLane
11-10-2006, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by biaaly
What the hell would have to be jealous for (in this episode), its not like he knew it was Jimmy that text her or anything....
Oh I know I know! *raises hand* He was jealous of the phone! The phone even got more attention at dinner then he did.
BlueNRed2
11-10-2006, 05:07 PM
Never over till its over.....
You know what guys, at this point I could care less! I don't care if they bring back the Clana, Introduce Clois, give Chlark a second chance ´not that they have given it a first one to begin, I just don't care! They could even bring Alica, Kyla or Raya back from the dead to be his new love interest! They can do all the won, cos none of these things would make me happy or unhappy! I simply don't care! I am fed up with all these ships, and drama, and simply pathetic relationships, which brought to life even if one knows from the get go that they are doomed! What would make me happy, if even for one season, there wouldn't be any ships at all! Characters could for once concentrate on their respective growth, spent their time one other things other than spending their valuable time contemplating over the never ending 'Oh does she/he love me or not?' dilema!
I am just so tired with all these ships, to the point of not caring anymore whom Clark will get involved with next!
gogeta
11-10-2006, 05:52 PM
I think the Chlark hints have been subtle, there is still a lot of story left to tell this season. The groundwork is there for it to still happen.
darkone
11-10-2006, 06:38 PM
Which story?If Al/Miles/writers want Clark having a relationship with a normal human knowing his secret they would let Lana in.
gogeta
11-10-2006, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by darkone
Which story?If Al/Miles/writers want Clark having a relationship with a normal human knowing his secret they would let Lana in.
I meant once Jimmy is out of the picture it will become clearer where Chlark stand.
I'm pretty sure comic!Lois is a normal human who knows his secret. Besides we've already seen Lana know about Clark in Reckoning. The Chlark dynamic is different than Clana, so I don't see why it can't be a possibility.
Atomic girl
11-10-2006, 07:26 PM
In this show, never say never.
We know Alicia and Kyla are not going to happen for Clark because they are dead. I know I'm going out on a limb with that statement, but I'll stand by it.
That being said, eveything else is up for grabs since they are all still alive. Since Al/Miles can always change anything in this show, I say Chlark is not dead, neither is Clois or Clana. Unfortunately, I wish some of these were not possible.
Krypto/DQ/
11-10-2006, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by Atomic girl
In this show, never say never.
We know Alicia and Kyla are not going to happen for Clark because they are dead. I know I'm going out on a limb with that statement, but I'll stand by it.
That being said, eveything else is up for grabs since they are all still alive. Since Al/Miles can always change anything in this show, I say Chlark is not dead, neither is Clois or Clana. Unfortunately, I wish some of these were not possible.
Yea but they'll need to make a choice. Its between Clois and Chlark(personnaly I think Clana is definatly dead for good). I only see Clois for the middle season 7(if it happen of course) so for the end of season 6 i hope Chlark.
Ayanne
11-11-2006, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by Rhoda123
I think that it is a joke for them to have Clark already have feelings for Lois.. we know that she doesn't reciprocate any feelings until after she has fallen for Superman already.. so why do this? I really don't understand why they can't give Chlark a chance.. it really upsets me..
That's my issue as well... They dragged the relationship with Lana on too long...and now seem to be rushing the relationship with Lois.
All the while, refusing to take the next step with the relationship that SHOULD be happening in Chlark. TPTB have the opportunity to take their place in Superman lore - with Chloe. The character's popularity has now transended into the comics.
Smallville has the chance to create their own part in the Superman legacy with Clark & Chloe - So why are they rushing with Lois??
:confused:
khufu
11-11-2006, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by Ayanne
That's my issue as well... They dragged the relationship with Lana on too long...and now seem to be rushing the relationship with Lois.How's that? So far there hasn't been any romantic relationship between them, or even a hint of one. And it seems unlikely that there will be any time this season.
Ayanne
11-11-2006, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by khufu
How's that? So far there hasn't been any romantic relationship between them, or even a hint of one. And it seems unlikely that there will be any time this season.
I am basing that on upcoming rumors of Clark "smitten" by a kiss with Lois.
I hope that doesn't happen - but this season seems to be all about lightswitches for Lois.
Clark didn't go directly from being in love with Lana to Lois in cannon. If I'm not mistaken during this time - he fell in love with a mermaid. LOL - Chloe works for me, instead.
khufu
11-11-2006, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by Ayanne
I am basing that on upcoming rumors of Clark "smitten" by a kiss with Lois.Nothing they have said about anything romance-related has come to pass. And the "smitten" comment wasn't even by TPTB, it was from Aussiello. Last year, Aussiello said that Clark would become "Stalkerman", and that was so far from the actual case.
I hope that doesn't happen - but this season seems to be all about lightswitches for Lois.True, but that wouldn't be a lightswitch for Lois, it would be a lightswitch for Clark.
Luthorism
11-11-2006, 03:39 AM
lol..chlark is dead since the premier episode of the seconda season.
Farm_Girl
11-11-2006, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by RobynAdele0406 It's just that the Cloisers are gonna come in here and say "DEAD! Always has been, always will be.[/B]
Don't generalize! Last time I checked, generalization was not allowed. Most Cloisers give a damn about Chlark. We don't need or want or are interested to prove that it is dead or alive. Chlark fans start the weekly "Chlark is dead" threads, not Clark/Lois fans.
Originally posted by Ayanne I hope that doesn't happen - but this season seems to be all about lightswitches for Lois.[/B]
If Clark is smitten by the kiss, how come that is a lightswitch for Lois? :confused:
Ayanne, First off, TPTB are not rushing with Lois, Lois is with Ollie right now, and there is no romance between Lois and Clark.
Secondly, FYI, in post crisis, Lois falls for Clark and later learns that he is Superman so Lois loving Superman first thing is gone now. TPTB can very well make Clark and Lois fall in love with each other in Smallville..
And for your saying creating Clark and Chloe, Clark does fall for Lori before Lois in the comics, in SV it could be Chlark before Clark/Lois, but as of this moment, I don't see any thing romantic between them, Chloe seems to love Jimmy right now. I don't know what is in store for the later half of the season, but as of now, I don't see Clark romantically involved with any girls, and that includes Lois Lane.
And without taking sides with Clark/Lois, I would like to say that thanksgiving scene was for Tom Welling and Tom Welling only!! He shined in the scene. It was about Clark Kent remembering his dad and thanking his mom. There was no "Chlark" or "Clark/Lois" moment there.
He was simply Clark Kent! The hero! This scene wasn't for any of the girls. He wasn't sad that Chloe got a message from Jimmy. He was simply happy to see everyone, and he missed Jonathan. It was a great scene and it was way, way above any sort of jealousy towards anyone.
For once, it was a Clark and only Clark moment!
Ayanne
11-11-2006, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by khufu
Nothing they have said about anything romance-related has come to pass. And the "smitten" comment wasn't even by TPTB, it was from Aussiello. Last year, Aussiello said that Clark would become "Stalkerman", and that was so far from the actual case.
[B]True, but that wouldn't be a lightswitch for Lois, it would be a lightswitch for Clark.
Thanks, I hope there isn't any kiss. It most certainly would be a "out of the blue" lightswitch with Clark - but it will benefit the Lois character.
I would much rather see TPTB explore Clark & Chloe - there is absolutely no need to rush to the end.
I was never a big Smallville fan, & even my boyfriend who is & was a big Clana fan - wants to see Chlark. That's what caught my attention, the chemistry & dynamic of TW & AM.
TheSupaMan
11-11-2006, 08:25 AM
Chlark would never work again, and I don't think it will ever come back. A few kisses here and there is all you're getting.
Farm_Girl
11-11-2006, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by Ayanne
Thanks, I hope there isn't any kiss. It most certainly would be a "out of the blue" lightswitch with Clark - but it will benefit the Lois character.
Still don't see how Clark smitten can be lightswitch for Lois though. Ausiello has a habit of spinning details, which is why let's just wait how it plays out before we jump to "out of the blue's" and "lightswitches"
I would much rather see TPTB explore Clark & Chloe - there is absolutely no need to rush to the end.
They had five years to do Chlark but didn't. Few kisses here and there, that is not romance or chemisty. TPTB had the entire second half of the season where Clark becomes single to do Clark, if they do Chlark now, that would be rushed. Bring Chlark for few episodes and then wrap it up to do Clark/Lois.. that would not only destroy Clark and Chloe's friendship but also take away the time from the cannon relationship to develop which is the future and part of the real story.
And Clark/Lois will be the beginning, not the end. Clark embracing all things from his future is not rushing towards the end, it is infact reaching towards the mythos and reaching towards the future.
That's what caught my attention, the chemistry & dynamic of TW & AM.
Yes, they have a friendship chemistry, but IMO building it into a romance out of the blue would destroy the friendship dynamics too..
Ayanne
11-11-2006, 08:41 AM
And for your saying creating Clark and Chloe, Clark does fall for Lori before Lois in the comics, in SV it could be Chlark before Clark/Lois, but as of this moment, I don't see any thing romantic between them, Chloe seems to love Jimmy right now
There is no reason not to do Clark & Chloe. The foundation is already in place & the opportunity is there, for TPTB of Smallville to establish their own stamp on the Superman legacy.
(which they have done already to some extent due to the popularity of the Chloe character) It's a rare opportunity & they are idiots not to take advantadge of it , instead of rushing to ending.
There is over 5 years of romantic history with Clark & Chloe. It doesn't get any more angsty & romantic than this:
"I want to let you in on a secret. I'm not who you think I am. In fact, my disguise is so thin I'm surprised you haven't seen right through me. I'm the girl of your dreams masquerading as your best friend. Sometimes I want to rip off the façade like I did at the spring formal. But I can't because you'll get scared and you'll run away again. So I decided that it's better than live with the lie than expose my true feelings. My dad said there are two types of girls -- the ones you grow out of and the ones you grow into. I really hope I'm the latter. I may not be the one you love today, but I'll let you go for now, hoping one day you'll fly back to me. Because I think you're worth the wait."
There is no way Chloe is in love with Jimmy - her heart belongs to Clark.
If TPTB are smart - they will explore that, rather than rush to the end result of Lois.
Farm_Girl
11-11-2006, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by TheSupaMan
Chlark would never work again
Again? When was the first time?:confused:
Krypto/DQ/
11-11-2006, 08:42 AM
This is from Al Gough:
Create new relationships. "This year we are playing with a couple of new love triangles. Last season Clark and Lana broke up and she ended up with Lex, so that is heating up. And Jimmy Olsen's love interest is Chloe Sullivan — so Clark is kind of the third wheel in these new romantic entanglements. Finding new dynamics and new triangles keeps moving the characters forward."
Wow so he just confirmed that this season is about Clana(clexana) or Chlark(chlimmy). Not Clois. Its ok with me cause its what have been showed on the show...
With Lana pregnant, I really, really don't see Clana(enough of Clana anyway) happening so the only real possibility that I see is Chlark.
Ayanne
11-11-2006, 08:47 AM
And Jimmy Olsen's love interest is Chloe Sullivan — so Clark is kind of the third wheel in these new romantic entanglements.
Thanks, that is exactly what I hope to see. Clark does care for Chloe more than he wants to admit & it is far deeper than friendship. That is how TW is playing it... the looks speak volumes.
As for TW * AM's chemistry? It's is the rare kind of romantic & UST that writers dream of.
They have *it*, the Buffy/Angel, Mulder/Scully dynamic .
Krypto/DQ/
11-11-2006, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Ayanne
Thanks, that is exactly what I hope to see. Clark does care for Chloe more than he wants to admit & it is far deeper than friendship. That is how TW is playing it... the looks speak volumes.
As for TW * AM's chemistry? It's is the rare kind of romantic & UST that writers dream of.
They have *it*, the Buffy/Angel, Mulder/Scully dynamic .
Amen.
I agree 100%.
Farm_Girl
11-11-2006, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by Ayanne
There is no reason not to do Clark & Chloe. The foundation is already in place & the opportunity is there, for TPTB of Smallville to establish their own stamp on the Superman legacy.
Well, like they did by overdoing Clana?
If you had said this after Vessel, I would've agreed 100%, now I don't see niether place nor opportunity.
they are idiots not to take advantadge of it, instead of rushing to ending.
Why do you think not doing Chlark means the end? There is still so much left to be shown with regards to Superman's legacy.
There is over 5 years of romantic history with Clark & Chloe. It doesn't get any more angsty & romantic than this:
I want to let you in on a secret. I'm not who you think I am. In fact, my disguise is so thin I'm surprised you haven't seen right through me. I'm the girl of your dreams masquerading as your best friend. Sometimes I want to rip off the façade like I did at the spring formal. But I can't because you'll get scared and you'll run away again. So I decided that it's better than live with the lie than expose my true feelings. My dad said there are two types of girls -- the ones you grow out of and the ones you grow into. I really hope I'm the latter. I may not be the one you love today, but I'll let you go for now, hoping one day you'll fly back to me. Because I think you're worth the wait.
She said it when she was madly in love with Clark and Clark was madly in love with Lana.
Is Clark's relationship with Lana the same now, no, it flourished, it blossomed, it consumated and it ended.
Clark and Lana are entirely different than what they were at the time the above dialouges took place, and so is Chloe.
That was my favorite scene from season two, but it was then. The ambiance of that season was different. Chloe had no other arc but to pine for Clark in that season.
Do you see no growth in Chloe or Clark's characters after that?
There is no way Chloe is in love with Jimmy - her heart belongs to Clark.
That could be a matter of perception, I see perfect chemistry between Chloe and Jimmy, they have even consumated their relationship to make it more real, rather than one or two possessed kisses like Chlark.
But I won't argue with you on this one, because everyone is entitled to a different opinion in things like these. There are still many Clana fans who think Clark will never get over Lana. To them, Clark loving anyone else would never be believable.
Originally posted by Ayanne That is how TW is playing it[/B]
TW plays how the writers/directors want him to. I see his great chemisty will all actors because he himself is so great.
Originally posted by Ayanne That is how TW is playing it[/B]
TW plays how the writers/directors want him to. I see his great chemisty will all actors because he himself is so great.
Originally posted by Ayanne That is how TW is playing it[/B]
TW plays how the writers/directors want him to. I see his great chemisty will all actors because he himself is so great.
Ayanne
11-11-2006, 09:40 AM
Why do you think not doing Chlark means the end? There is still so much left to be shown with regards to Superman's legacy.
That is exactly my point. Why in the world would any smart writers want to limit themselves rushing to the END result - Lois?
Especially when they have created something *new* which is incredibly popular with their audience, recognized now by the creators of the Superman mythology, winning awards, & getting positive buzz from the mainstream media in
Chloe & Chlark!!
Allison Mack & the AM - TW chemistry is something special - all of the above is more than proof of it. TPTB of Smallville need to explore it - the opportunity is there NOW!!
Farm_Girl
11-11-2006, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by Ayanne
That is exactly my point. Why in the world would any smart writers want to limit themselves rushing to the END result - Lois?
You want Chloe to be Smallville's Lori? Chlori:D
Okay, seriously, if they bring Chlark for a short time, I won't mind. Only I see no premises for it. If they wanted to do Chlark, why on earth they blew off the Vessel kiss?
I mean, they could've brought Clark and Chloe as a couple, and not brought Jimmy at all. And then brought Jimmy in the end of S6. It would've been a perfect setup. Clark and Chloe together until Clark realizes his feelings for Lois with the kiss in Hydro.. and then Jimmy comes back and develops a relationship with Chloe..
Or if even, like ED said, Clark/Lois will happen in the end of the series, they could've saved it for S7 and kept Chlark for S6.
But now, I don't see how they jump to Chlark?
EllenF
11-11-2006, 10:33 AM
That could be a matter of perception, I see perfect chemistry between Chloe and Jimmy, they have even consumated their relationship to make it more real, rather than one or two possessed kisses like Chlark.
Having sex with someone doesn't make a relationship "real." Chloe and Jimmy had sex (possibly a one-night stand, for all we know) way back when they were sixteen or so. She later told Lana it "just wasn't special" and that she regretted it. That was not as "real" a relationship as the very close friendship between Clark and Chloe.
Chlark have had several kisses and close calls that weren't possessed or mind-whammied. "Vessel" is the most notable, but they also started to kiss in "Tempest" and were interrupted, and he was also clearly about to kiss her in "Bound." There's plenty of chemistry between them. There may be chemistry between Chloe and Jimmy, too, but she simply seems a little out of his league-- too smart for him, really.
I loved the dinner scene in "Rage" where Clark was looking at Chloe wistfully... it looks to me like he's beginning to wonder about the road not taken. And Al's comments are encouraging, too. We'll just have to see where this all goes, but since Al says they're consciously playing up the Chlark/Jimmy triangle, then I think we can firmly state that the possibility of Chlark is not dead. Whether they'll ever decide to do romantic Chlark is an open question at this point, but it certainly appears to be a possibility.
D.M.A.
11-11-2006, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by Farm_Girl
You want Chloe to be Smallville's Lori? Chlori:D
Okay, seriously, if they bring Chlark for a short time, I won't mind. Only I see no premises for it. If they wanted to do Chlark, why on earth they blew off the Vessel kiss?
why,because he jus found out about lexana and was nowhere near bein over lana.I think as time goes on he will be,but at that moment he wasn't,he had jus found out 2 weeks prior.That jus screams rebound,and sumthin chloe wanted to avoid.So if they have him process his feelings thruout the season and they give it a try at the end its fine imo.It'll be more reasonable then jus her runnin up kissin him,he comes back and they start a ship.Once lana is out of his system they can explore more,bringin jimmy in was an excuse to blow the kiss of without havin her pin for clark while he process his feelings.He has options wit her,so her bein involved now is makin him process those feelings quicker.I also dont see how sum think romantic chlark will damage friendship chlark,they've been down that road before.Plus wit her knowin the secret I dont see how they'll damage the friendship dynamic,that's jus an excuse from anti's imo.Jimmy is a roadblock for now,jus a reason for tptb to blow off the kiss while not havin chloe pine cause he didn't start nothin wit her.It doesn't end the fact that clark still has to get over lexana(Which he will soon),process his feelings about chlimmy later on.Plus his leavin is goin to affect both him and chloe,those 2 r goin to hate sayin goodbye.So I wouldn't be suprise if we have a big confession when he leaves,I jus think havin chlark come later on makes more sense then them rushin it in Zod.So it can still happen,and it won't affect the friendship dynamic later on either imo :D
Originally posted by EllenF
Having sex with someone doesn't make a relationship "real." Chloe and Jimmy had sex (possibly a one-night stand, for all we know) way back when they were sixteen or so. She later told Lana it "just wasn't special" and that she regretted it. That was not as "real" a relationship as the very close friendship between Clark and Chloe.
Chlark have had several kisses and close calls that weren't possessed or mind-whammied. "Vessel" is the most notable, but they also started to kiss in "Tempest" and were interrupted, and he was also clearly about to kiss her in "Bound." There's plenty of chemistry between them. There may be chemistry between Chloe and Jimmy, too, but she simply seems a little out of his league-- too smart for him, really.
I loved the dinner scene in "Rage" where Clark was looking at Chloe wistfully... it looks to me like he's beginning to wonder about the road not taken. And Al's comments are encouraging, too. We'll just have to see where this all goes, but since Al says they're consciously playing up the Chlark/Jimmy triangle, then I think we can firmly state that the possibility of Chlark is not dead. Whether they'll ever decide to do romantic Chlark is an open question at this point, but it certainly appears to be a possibility.
I agree
InLove_with_Chloe
11-11-2006, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by EllenF
I loved the dinner scene in "Rage" where Clark was looking at Chloe wistfully... it looks to me like he's beginning to wonder about the road not taken. And Al's comments are encouraging, too. We'll just have to see where this all goes, but since Al says they're consciously playing up the Chlark/Jimmy triangle, then I think we can firmly state that the possibility of Chlark is not dead. Whether they'll ever decide to do romantic Chlark is an open question at this point, but it certainly appears to be a possibility.
Thanks for keeping my hopes up...
:)
Ayanne
11-11-2006, 11:33 AM
You want Chloe to be Smallville's Lori? Chlori
That is not exactly what I said at all. I think the character of Chloe is far more closer to the iconic Lois Lane - in every way. She's smart, witty, has heart & depth.
Let me repeat the point for you:
Why in the world would any smart writers want to limit themselves rushing to the END result of Lois??
Especially when they have created something *new* which is incredibly popular with their audience, recognized now by the creators of the Superman mythology, winning awards, & getting positive buzz from the mainstream media in
Chloe & Chlark!!
Nor did I see any kind of closure for Chlark in Vessel - it was the beginning of a triangle - just the writers acknowledged. It's
becoming more and more apparent that Clark does have unresolved feelings about Chloe that are beyond those of a friend.
Paul Satanic
11-11-2006, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
Well, not a very good episode for Chlark. I thought soemthing was going to happen at the thanksgiving supper but nope, the damn Jimmy Olsen send a message to Chloe right when Clark was looking at her! He even smiled when he saw Chloe...but went a lil down in same time, maybe he noticed something(like he's alone lol) I'm really sad for Clark. But I still think that soemthing need to happen between them.
So do you guys think the romantic Chlark possiblilitys are dead now?
YES YES YES! It's over if it even existed before.
khufu
11-11-2006, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Farm_Girl
Okay, seriously, if they bring Chlark for a short time, I won't mind. Only I see no premises for it. If they wanted to do Chlark, why on earth they blew off the Vessel kiss?Yeah that is a good question. I mean, if they wanted to do the Chlark for a while, then they would have to do it sooner rather than later because we all know that Clois is destiny. But by putting Jimmy in there, all they are doing is pushing Chlark closer to the end of the series. That's only something that they would do if they wanted to end with Chlark as THE romance of Smallville.... and that can't happen because, you know, the whole destiny with Clois thing...... right?
I mean, they could've brought Clark and Chloe as a couple, and not brought Jimmy at all. And then brought Jimmy in the end of S6. It would've been a perfect setup. Clark and Chloe together until Clark realizes his feelings for Lois with the kiss in Hydro.. and then Jimmy comes back and develops a relationship with Chloe..
Or if even, like ED said, Clark/Lois will happen in the end of the series, they could've saved it for S7 and kept Chlark for S6.Exactly. Extending Chlark would mean less time for Clois to develop. And if they do something crazy like an annual Chlark kiss later in the season then that might look like that are trying to strech out that relationship and keep it alive. Why oh why would they do something so crazy? I just cannot understand it for the life of me. I mean, what about canon? We all know by now that Smallville never messes with canon!
But now, I don't see how they jump to Chlark? Me neither. I just can't understand it for the life of me. I'm soooooooooo confused.....
smchic92
11-11-2006, 03:23 PM
^^ :rotfl:
Krypto/DQ/
11-11-2006, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by khufu
Yeah that is a good question. I mean, if they wanted to do the Chlark for a while, then they would have to do it sooner rather than later because we all know that Clois is destiny. But by putting Jimmy in there, all they are doing is pushing Chlark closer to the end of the series. That's only something that they would do if they wanted to end with Chlark as THE romance of Smallville.... and that can't happen because, you know, the whole destiny with Clois thing...... right?
[B]Exactly. Extending Chlark would mean less time for Clois to develop. And if they do something crazy like an annual Chlark kiss later in the season then that might look like that are trying to strech out that relationship and keep it alive. Why oh why would they do something so crazy? I just cannot understand it for the life of me. I mean, what about canon? We all know by now that Smallville [b]never messes with canon!
Me neither. I just can't understand it for the life of me. I'm soooooooooo confused.....
I almost didn't catch the sarcasm!:lol:
Khyla
11-11-2006, 04:44 PM
khufu ! That was great!!! :D :lol:
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Originally posted by Farm_Girl
Okay, seriously, if they bring Chlark for a short time, I won't mind. Only I see no premises for it. If they wanted to do Chlark, why on earth they blew off the Vessel kiss?
cause they want to continue to dangle the carrot in front of the large audience of Chlarkers, stringing it out and stringing them along as long as they can. I'm happy to see you won't mind if they bring Chlark for a short time, at least. :)
I mean, they could've brought Clark and Chloe as a couple, and not brought Jimmy at all. And then brought Jimmy in the end of S6. It would've been a perfect setup. Clark and Chloe together until Clark realizes his feelings for Lois with the kiss in Hydro.. and then Jimmy comes back and develops a relationship with Chloe..
And they're not "jumping" to Chlark. It's been a long hard full of bumps in the road type of relationship, (one of the "bumps" being Jimmy, who also acts as a catalyste) with the tables starting to turn toward Clark now the one who is realizing, admitting he is wanting more than just freindship.
And, IMO Clark should never realize his feelings for Lois while still in Smallville, except to maybe be hinted at in the last episode of the series finale.
As for TW * AM's chemistry? It's is the rare kind of romantic & UST that writers dream of.
They have *it*, the Buffy/Angel, Mulder/Scully dynamic .
Totally!
D.M.A.
11-11-2006, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by khufu
Yeah that is a good question. I mean, if they wanted to do the Chlark for a while, then they would have to do it sooner rather than later because we all know that Clois is destiny. But by putting Jimmy in there, all they are doing is pushing Chlark closer to the end of the series. That's only something that they would do if they wanted to end with Chlark as THE romance of Smallville.... and that can't happen because, you know, the whole destiny with Clois thing...... right?
[B]Exactly. Extending Chlark would mean less time for Clois to develop. And if they do something crazy like an annual Chlark kiss later in the season then that might look like that are trying to strech out that relationship and keep it alive. Why oh why would they do something so crazy? I just cannot understand it for the life of me. I mean, what about canon? We all know by now that Smallville [b]never messes with canon!
Me neither. I just can't understand it for the life of me. I'm soooooooooo confused.....
:lol:
InLove_with_Chloe
11-11-2006, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Khyla
And they're not "jumping" to Chlark. It's been a long hard full of bumps in the road type of relationship, (one of the "bumps" being Jimmy, who also acts as a catalyste) with the tables starting to turn toward Clark now the one who is realizing, admitting he is wanting more than just freindship.[/B]
Let's hope so!
However, a part of me doubts that AlMiles are capable of such fine writing. One that makes sense, I mean...
Khyla
11-11-2006, 07:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by Khyla
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And they're not "jumping" to Chlark. It's been a long hard full of bumps in the road type of relationship, (one of the "bumps" being Jimmy, who also acts as a catalyste) with the tables starting to turn toward Clark now the one who is realizing, admitting he is wanting more than just freindship.[/B]
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Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Let's hope so!
However, a part of me doubts that AlMiles are capable of such fine writing. One that makes sense, I mean...
You "doubting Thomas" you!
Where's your faith!
:)
D.M.A.
11-11-2006, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Khyla
quote:Originally posted by Khyla
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And they're not "jumping" to Chlark. It's been a long hard full of bumps in the road type of relationship, (one of the "bumps" being Jimmy, who also acts as a catalyste) with the tables starting to turn toward Clark now the one who is realizing, admitting he is wanting more than just freindship.
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You "doubting Thomas" you!
Where's your faith!
:) [/B]
lol yea keep the faith,cause I think all chlarkers were expectin a late s6 hookup anyways.And right now we r along way away,so there is still time.Now when we get close to may and nothin happens that's when u worry.Til then the possibility is there so u can't lose faith so early ILWC :D.Remember clark has yet to tell chloe he's leavin,it may not affect her alot then but when he on the verge of leavin it'll hit her.So then we can tell what their confessions will be :D
InLove_with_Chloe
11-11-2006, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Khyla
Where's your faith!:)
Oh, I lost that a long time ago... And when it comes to SV, I live from epi to epi.
D.M.A.
11-11-2006, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by InLove_with_Chloe
Oh, I lost that a long time ago... And when it comes to SV, I live from epi to epi.
well there ya go,so far we've had signs this season,more than season 5 which lead to a kiss.So I wouldn't worry,tptb seem to be takin this ship slow/buildin up right.So I dont mind alil waitin :D .But ur right tho epi to epi is the best wit these writers :mad:
Farm_Girl
11-12-2006, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by Ayanne
That is not exactly what I said at all. I think the character of Chloe is far more closer to the iconic Lois Lane - in every way.
You want Chlark as a Chlark fan that is fine by me, but only when she is compared to Lois Lane is where it becomes unreal.
"Iconic Lois Lane" is Lois Lane itself. Whatever Lois does is "iconic" because it is the part of mythos.
Chloe is nowhere near any Lois Lane, iconic or not! She is just Chloe. Besides, other than being in DP, there is no other parallel between her and her cousin.
The writers have written the character of Lois Lane and given Erica Durance this role to play.. why wouldn't they polish her and transform her into the future Lois instead of creating a fake one?
Secondly, AM/KK get more media attention because their roles are established on the show from day one. Erica was only brought in S4 and she appears in half episodes each season.
The difference between MK, TH, KB Lois Lane and ED's Lois Lane is that they are all leading ladies from day one, whereas in Smallville, Erica was only a supporting character in S4 and S5. Kristin has always been the leading lady.
The Chlark kiss in Vessel created the hype in media for AM and people thought that now the writers might do Chlark. I don't know what is in store for future, but no one is taking Lois's place that is for sure.
As of now, Lois Lane was shown away from journalism and Clark. Now she is getting closer to her destiny.
She's smart, witty, has heart & depth. [/B]
You have just described Erica Durance's character Lois Lane on the show.
I see Chloe as a one dimensional character with constant and never changing lines, but that is merely my perception of her, to some she might be a great and dynamic character..
But in any case, I wouldn't compare Lois to anyone because no one can take her place in the mythos.
And since this thread is about the possibilities of Chlark, I don't see what Lois is doing here anyway? Can't Chloe be discussed independently without being compared to Lois? Or is it the only way to justify her?
khufu
11-12-2006, 03:33 AM
Take it to the Chlois thread people.
analfabeta
11-12-2006, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by Farm_Girl
You want Chlark as a Chlark fan that is fine by me, but only when she is compared to Lois Lane is where it becomes unreal.
"Iconic Lois Lane" is Lois Lane itself. Whatever Lois does is "iconic" because it is the part of mythos.
Chloe is nowhere near any Lois Lane, iconic or not! She is just Chloe. Besides, other than being in DP, there is no other parallel between her and her cousin.
The writers have written the character of Lois Lane and given Erica Durance this role to play.. why wouldn't they polish her and transform her into the future Lois instead of creating a fake one?
Secondly, AM/KK get more media attention because their roles are established on the show from day one. Erica was only brought in S4 and she appears in half episodes each season.
The difference between MK, TH, KB Lois Lane and ED's Lois Lane is that they are all leading ladies from day one, whereas in Smallville, Erica was only a supporting character in S4 and S5. Kristin has always been the leading lady.
The Chlark kiss in Vessel created the hype in media for AM and people thought that now the writers might do Chlark. I don't know what is in store for future, but no one is taking Lois's place that is for sure.
As of now, Lois Lane was shown away from journalism and Clark. Now she is getting closer to her destiny.
Farm_Girl ,
Im not a Chlark but I become to realize that it makes more sense on the show.
I rather see they together than see all Superman story goes down with a rush relationship betwen Lois and Clark by now. Lois doesnt like Clark! she falls for Superman. So if Chlark means a bit longer life to Smallville show let they be happy together!!!!!!!
Just don't mess up with Superman iconic!!!!!!!!
You have just described Erica Durance's character Lois Lane on the show.
I see Chloe as a one dimensional character with constant and never changing lines, but that is merely my perception of her, to some she might be a great and dynamic character..
But in any case, I wouldn't compare Lois to anyone because no one can take her place in the mythos.
And since this thread is about the possibilities of Chlark, I don't see what Lois is doing here anyway? Can't Chloe be discussed independently without being compared to Lois? Or is it the only way to justify her?
And that Lois Lane is far away from the iconic Lois!!! I think she's funny. I really like Erica, but I still can't see her as a Lois Lane. I hope they fix her up this season.
jaime,oburg
11-12-2006, 05:56 AM
I love the character of Lois Lane, I really do. We're kinda getting a bit off topic here BUT since it seems the opinions around Chlark are so intertwined with the future Clois.... here is my two cents.
I just think that it didn't do the iconic character of Lois Lane any justice to be introduced so early in the SV version of the mythos. I would have preferred to see Lois show up in the least season of the show to avoid any lightswitches or rushed story archs. So I'll keep shipping my Chlark and try to enjoy how the tptb are trying to keep the show fresh by stretching out all the different triangles they have going. It really is enough to keep your head spinning!
Farm_Girl
11-12-2006, 06:39 AM
Farm_Girl , Im not a Chlark but I become to realize that it makes more sense on the show.
What makes more sense is only a matter of perception. To me, when Lois Lane is here, no other relationship makes sense. I am entitled to my opinion, you are entitled to yours.
I rather see they together than see all Superman story goes down with a rush relationship betwen Lois and Clark by now.
Who said anything about rushing? We have this season and hopefully another season, they'll take it slow and develop beautifully. Lois and Clark are friends for three seasons now. Their relationship is more grown than it used to be in S4. The premises has been built for three seasons. I don't see any rushing.
Lois doesnt like Clark! she falls for Superman.
Sorry, post-crisis, Lois falling for Superman and Clark falling for Lois history has been changed. Lois and Clark both love each other and Clark tells her his secret and marries her.
So if Chlark means a bit longer life to Smallville show let they be happy together!!!!!!!
And why do you think Clark/Lois will mean an end to the show and Chlark is the only way to let it live.
Just don't mess up with Superman iconic!!!!!!!!
Funny! Clark/Lois is part of Superman iconic, mythos as well as it is the only real and cannon romance. Talking about Clark/Lois is talking about the Superman iconic.. any other romance is diversion from it..
Sorry, I don't mean to raid any shippers but I had to make things clear from the mythos point of view.
I can't definitely say that there would be no Chlark, I am not the writer, if the writers have planned it, they'll bring it, I am just discussing my opinions here and not discussing Lois vs. Chloe.
Originally posted by analfabeta
And that Lois Lane is far away from the iconic Lois!!! I think she's funny. I really like Erica, but I still can't see her as a Lois Lane. I hope they fix her up this season.
"Lois is far from iconic" is like become a perfect excuse for everything.. Lois cannot do this, she is far from iconic, Lois wasn't suppossed to do that.. she is far from iconic..
I think the word "icon" is badly mixed with "perfect". Smallville Lois is a exact replica of DC Lois just this is a younger version, she is also a little short tempered, sassy, takes control of the situations and has wit.
Lois Lane is Lois Lane, no question of iconic or not iconic. She is the icon herself.
If by iconic you mean DP reporter, then Clark is far from iconic too, but I guess no one ever came with an explanation of that.
But if by iconic you mean character traits, Lois is exactly what she would be when she is a DP reporter, her habits and traits won't change. She would still be sassy, independent and a little outspoken.
Lois is doing perfectly fine this season. Al Miles brought her as a main character instead of keeping her as a supporting character. It helped a lot to show the future Lois in her.
And being iconic or not iconic is a Lois question, why is it dragged in Chloe threads to justify or prove that Chloe is better, I don't know, you can think that Chloe is the most perfect woman in the world but she will still never take Lois's place.
Wanting Chlark or being a Chloe fan is not a problem, comparing her endlessly to Lois Lane is...
I only added these comments since a Chlark thread became about Lois far from iconic thread..
I hope this will help you guys get back to topic..
analfabeta
11-12-2006, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by Farm_Girl
What makes more sense is only a matter of perception. To me, when Lois Lane is here, no other relationship makes sense. I am entitled to my
opinion, you are entitled to yours.
I agree that both have different opinions. But we got to face that Clark did have other love interests before Lois. See Lana and Loris.
Who said anything about rushing? We have this season and hopefully another season, they'll take it slow and develop beautifully. Lois and Clark are friends for three seasons now. Their relationship is more grown than it used to be in S4. The premises has been built for three seasons. I don't see any rushing.
The rushing that I meant was about the timeline. Smallville is about Clark before Superman. Lois doesnt supposed to be there by the time. I accepted that and I even liked the way they did. But "my Lois" is the smart ass one at the DP environment and Im eager to see that. And only after she reach that I will accept the Clois. But that is just what I want to see. No one is obliged to see the same way.
Sorry, post-crisis, Lois falling for Superman and Clark falling for Lois history has been changed. Lois and Clark both love each other and Clark tells her his secret and marries her.
Indeed but, again, both get to know each other while they are working at DP. Not before.
And why do you think Clark/Lois will mean an end to the show and Chlark is the only way to let it live.
Because Smallville is about Clark before Superman. When Superman shows up it will be the end of Smallville. And in my opinion Clois just got to happen when Superman shows up.
Funny! Clark/Lois is part of Superman iconic, mythos as well as it is the only real and cannon romance. Talking about Clark/Lois is talking about the Superman iconic.. any other romance is diversion from it..
Sorry, I don't mean to raid any shippers but I had to make things clear from the mythos point of view.
I can't definitely say that there would be no Chlark, I am not the writer, if the writers have planned it, they'll bring it, I am just discussing my opinions here and not discussing Lois vs. Chloe.
Thats I totally agree with you!!!!!!!
"Lois is far from iconic" is like become a perfect excuse for everything.. Lois cannot do this, she is far from iconic, Lois wasn't suppossed to do that.. she is far from iconic..
I think the word "icon" is badly mixed with "perfect". Smallville Lois is a exact replica of DC Lois just this is a younger version, she is also a little short tempered, sassy, takes control of the situations and has wit.
Lois Lane is Lois Lane, no question of iconic or not iconic. She is the icon herself.
If by iconic you mean DP reporter, then Clark is far from iconic too, but I guess no one ever came with an explanation of that.
But if by iconic you mean character traits, Lois is exactly what she would be when she is a DP reporter, her habits and traits won't change. She would still be sassy, independent and a little outspoken.
Lois is doing perfectly fine this season. Al Miles brought her as a main character instead of keeping her as a supporting character. It helped a lot to show the future Lois in her.
And being iconic or not iconic is a Lois question, why is it dragged in Chloe threads to justify or prove that Chloe is better, I don't know, you can think that Chloe is the most perfect woman in the world but she will still never take Lois's place.
Wanting Chlark or being a Chloe fan is not a problem, comparing her endlessly to Lois Lane is...
I only added these comments since a Chlark thread became about Lois far from iconic thread..
I hope this will help you guys get back to topic..
Exactly! Erica's character is Lois Lane and she's doing fine, but she's not "The Lois Lane" yet. Im Clois all the way. And I know that in the end she will be the one with him. But not now. She's not ready.
I dont know who gonna be Clark's next love interest, but I know that is not gonna be Lois by now. That could be Chloe, thats why I think that Chlark may not be dead for now. They are great together, why not give them some time... Or they could come with a new character such as Lori Lemaris. I don't know. We can't foresee what the writers are planning.
Anyway..the only three things I wanna and I think we deserve to see in the show is:
1- Clark's training and kicking some Zoners ass.
2- Lois Lane and Clark making their way to DP
3- more Clarks vs Lex
InLove_with_Chloe
11-12-2006, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by khufu
Take it to the Chlois thread people.
I agree...
Krypto/DQ/
11-13-2006, 03:48 PM
Now we can only wait to see more signs from Clark wanting Chloe and vice versa. And see how Chlimmy will split.
D.M.A.
11-13-2006, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
Now we can only wait to see more signs from Clark wanting Chloe and vice versa. And see how Chlimmy will split.
Well I think we'll get more clues of how those 2 feel when jimmy returns for the next 2 episodes.Cause the boyz always have that uncomfortable vibe when around each other.So maybe clark will show a clearer sign this week,or maybe she shows sumthin.Who knows,but I do expect more awkwardness like Zod/Wither between the 3
InLove_with_Chloe
11-15-2006, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by Krypto/DQ/
Now we can only wait to see more signs from Clark wanting Chloe and vice versa. And see how Chlimmy will split.
...and split they will.
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