View Full Version : Is Brainiac history?
xrayvision
11-02-2006, 10:26 PM
Do you think there is any chance of Brainiac showing up again?
We know that only part of the black box was destroyed in Fallout. We don't know if the other half was destroyed or if it has yet to be shown. It's made of special metal, so it's unlikely it vaporized. That could mean that Lana or Lionel may have it. There is also the FOS dagger, and Lionel's "Power" scheme.
Another thing is that does the black box represent the black ship? Heatvision split the black box in 2, but it would have no effect on the ship, so I don't think that huge ship morphed into the box. That could mean it's invisible somewhere or just teleported itself, perhaps to Argentina.
The main thing to consider is that Brainiac is in the mythos, so would TPTB really kill it/him off? Please vote and post about why you voted the way you did.
ginnyfan
11-02-2006, 10:32 PM
He's still out there somewhere... perhaps... but as far as braniac on earth goes... I'd say he's dead... Actually... I take that back... he's probably floating around in a computer somewhere. Too bad I already voted...
xrayvision
11-02-2006, 10:54 PM
I wonder if Lionel will accidentally unleash him through his scheme. I am REALLY looking forward to what Lionel has up his evil sleeve.
I also think that TPTB aren't through with James Marsters yet. They're probably waiting until he's done with whatever he's working on now.
But think of it--Lionel could easily have the dagger. He knew that Lana was going back to the mansion in Zod since he was there when Martha gave it to her in the barn and knew where she was going. Then later, she was finished off by Zod, so I assume Lionel showed up while Clark & Zod fought (or shortly afterwards) and took the dagger & the part of the black box he found (the missing part) in his pocket while taking Lana to the hospital. Or if Lana came to early enough, she could have taken it. Maybe the reason she's glad that the part Lex had was destroyed was so she didn't have to worry about him doing something that would kill everyone. One thing I know is that the doctor who ran away is still alive for now and she could use him to investigate on the missing half behind Lex's back if she has it. This could be very likely to happen, since it would set Lex off like a wild man, which we know will be happening soon.
warriorrenegade
11-02-2006, 11:46 PM
Yeah I think Lionel has the other piece. Why else would he want to get close to Lex? He must've wanted the other piece to connect and reboot "Brainiac" with the promise of "Power" as reward. Or the gift of "knowledge" with the tease of the Kryptonian linguistics to seal the deal.
gwtiburon
11-03-2006, 12:23 AM
I have a question. Are they actually even allowed to kill him off in the show? I mean with the recent statements by Bryan Singer about a huge Supes baddie being in the sequel..it COULD be Brainiac...and Smallville has to run things by the movie division, correct? We may not see him again, but I don't think he's dead.
I'd love to see a nod in the sequel to Smallville if Clark meets up with Brainiac.
xrayvision
11-03-2006, 12:28 AM
Oh man, you mean to tell me they will have a sequel to SR? I hope they get someone else to play Lois and drop the ilegitimate son of Superman crap. Doing those 2 things and adding Brainiac (someone who never appeared in the movies) would be interesting.
I think Smallville can do what they want as long as they follow the comics. I'm pretty sure somehow he will return. Maybe the missing half of the black box is enough to bring back 1 Brainiac (like there's supposed to be).
StealthyMakoto
11-03-2006, 02:03 AM
Smallville will be over with by the time the sequel comes around anyway (2009) so I think they'll be able to have a bit more freedom.... although I don't think it will extend so far as to kill off Brainiac.
nabadua
11-03-2006, 02:23 AM
I think that as long as any piece of that box survives, it's enough to generate Brainiac, or allow him to regenerate himself. As for the ship, I think it is just a manifestation of Brainiac. Zod took Brainiac ( as he was the only one who could ) as the box, 'turning off' the ship. So if that box 'Brainiac' is ever reconstructed The Ship can reappear as well as Fine or whatever manifestation chosen.
boywithbluehanger
11-03-2006, 10:33 AM
He cant die!! This is the first time they officially called him Brainiac!
MarkAllan22
11-03-2006, 10:57 AM
I hope they bring him back.
He was horribly underused last season.
Krypton935
11-03-2006, 12:46 PM
He can't die. if anyone watches Justice League they'd know. He just keeps regenerating and coming back to life. In fact the new JL video game uses Brainiac as the arch enemy (haven't beat it yet)
Hydra
11-03-2006, 01:02 PM
Every version of Braniac has been so different, but I do agree that he's still alive somewhere. Zod never actually said the ship was destroyed, it just seemed to 'dissapear for safe keeping' which means that Braniac is still probably alive in there somewhere. As to whether or not he'll ever appear on this show again however is another matter entirely. I would love it if he did.
Spoon AZ
11-03-2006, 02:44 PM
I'd like to have him back on Sville but I don't see it happening this season.
Maybe if it makes it to a final 7th season.
But in the long term, no he's not gone. We know he fights the future Superman.
treker
11-03-2006, 03:32 PM
According to AL/Miles Brainiac is history. His purpose was to release zod and now that is done so is his purpose.
Alicia's Sweetie
11-03-2006, 05:02 PM
Jor-El said that when Clark impaled Brainiac with the Kryptonian Dagger, he destroyed ALL copies of him.
As for the other incarnations of Superman, ONLY in Superman The Animated Series was Brainiac from Krypton. So, we aren't waiting to see the other Brainiacs.
MarkAllan22
11-03-2006, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by treker
According to AL/Miles Brainiac is history. His purpose was to release zod and now that is done so is his purpose.
I kinda hated that about this version of Brainiac. He was nothing more than a lackey for Zod, when in every other version, he's been a very capable enemy.
luthorcorp
11-03-2006, 07:50 PM
heres to praying for fine/brainy return to sv
RedPhoenix23
11-03-2006, 08:10 PM
In Smallville land, Brianiac is gone. Smallville has never been very good with bringing back characters from previews seasons. *shrugs* It will just freak out Superman all the more in the future when Brianiac shows up out of the blue demanding that he help restore Zod somehow.
luthorcorp
11-03-2006, 08:32 PM
good point phoenix
Ive always been wishing for a return of Dr Hamilton he was an interesting character
I'm still waiting
RedPhoenix23
11-04-2006, 01:10 AM
Thanks.
Wasn't Dr. Hamilton the doc that caught that GreenK "shaking" disease? I thought he died at the end of the ep where he kidnapped Pete.... Not that matters, cause like I said, Smallville has never been great about bringing back characters from previews seasons.
Zooks
11-05-2006, 01:16 PM
i remember in a marsters interview, the smallville brainiac was created by jor-el and was (like in STAS) the whole computer system of the planet. Zod corrupted it though and tried to use brainiac to control krypton. when he was banished, zod had brainiac eradicate the planet.
xrayvision
11-05-2006, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by RedPhoenix23
Thanks.
Wasn't Dr. Hamilton the doc that caught that GreenK "shaking" disease? I thought he died at the end of the ep where he kidnapped Pete.... Not that matters, cause like I said, Smallville has never been great about bringing back characters from previews seasons.
Pete said he was dead, but he didn't check for a pulse or even touch him. When the Luthors arrived at the barn (no police yet since there wasn't any crime scene tape), he was gone. Where would he go if Clark & Pete were in a hurry to get out of there?
I think it was revealed in the Chloe Chronicles that he was dead, but that doesn't mean anything, since she could have been supplied with false info. He would be a very interesting character to bring back. He would perfectly fit in that Level 33 storyline and it could be explained that Level 33 is where Cadmus Labs (where Lex moved Hamilton to) is located.
It would explain a lot. In Rush, Lex had Dr. Walden send the alien parasites to Cadmus Labs. It would be awesome continuity wise to bring him back, especially after his current doctor dies, which we all know is going to happen (no spoiler---just common sense after seeing what they did with Dr. Foster, Dr. Teng, Dr. Walden, the doctor in Onyx, etc).
As for Brainiac, I think bringing him back with a plan to not only clone Zod's original body using a DNA sample that could be revealed to be in the black ship, but to also turn machines & cpu's on Earth against the humans would be great and give the fans who thought were cheated out last season a good payoff after they used him just as a tool to bring Zod in the 2nd half of the season.
Yeah I'd like if they brought him back
Jaded Wolf
11-07-2006, 01:58 PM
I think Bryan Singer is pretty much free to do whatever he wants. Smallville plays tributes to the movies and the comics but it doesn't follow them nor prequels them. Think about it. In comics lore, Superman doesn't meet Lois Lane until he moves to Metropolis. Metropolis is not that close to Kansas. As a teenager, Clark Kent was pulled into the future to join the Legion of Superheroes. I have not even heard of Lionel Luthor. The meteor rocks affecting other humans has not been in the comics to my knowledge. My point being is that while Smallville pays respect to the Superman mythos, it doesn't necesarily follow it. It was an awesome tribute to see the Fortress of Solitude formed, but in the original movie, the fortress was formed after Jonathan died.
Clark never uses his super breath - why ? he could have blown lil bow wow away whe he went to the barn. ah well i just thought of that. why he doesnt use that power.
xrayvision
11-07-2006, 10:05 PM
He's saving it for when he will put the moves on Raya.
HowardFilms
11-08-2006, 06:21 PM
After watching it again and paying more attention, that was just his power source...
couldn't another one suffice? Maybe when Lex creates Metallo (crosses fingers) some form of that energy device can be used to rebuild braniac.
treker
11-08-2006, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Jaded Wolf
I think Bryan Singer is pretty much free to do whatever he wants. Smallville plays tributes to the movies and the comics but it doesn't follow them nor prequels them. Think about it. In comics lore, Superman doesn't meet Lois Lane until he moves to Metropolis. Metropolis is not that close to Kansas. As a teenager, Clark Kent was pulled into the future to join the Legion of Superheroes. I have not even heard of Lionel Luthor. The meteor rocks affecting other humans has not been in the comics to my knowledge. My point being is that while Smallville pays respect to the Superman mythos, it doesn't necesarily follow it. It was an awesome tribute to see the Fortress of Solitude formed, but in the original movie, the fortress was formed after Jonathan died.
Now let's not get started on talking about how smallville doesn't follow the mythology...otherwise I'll start talking about clana and then someone will bash me over the head saying it's not canon and then I'll bash them over the head saying smallville doesn't follow canon and so on and so forth.....
:)
xrayvision
11-08-2006, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by HowardFilms
After watching it again and paying more attention, that was just his power source...
couldn't another one suffice? Maybe when Lex creates Metallo (crosses fingers) some form of that energy device can be used to rebuild braniac.
I'm certain the other half of that box is still around in someone's pocket. Perhaps Lionel or Lana (probably Lionel since the spoiler talk people have been posting all over this forum makes it seem like Lana will be busy with other stuff). The box was one of the major arcs of the season, and we know there is another piece left. I doubt they would do away with it and not bring back the other part. If not, Lex will not have anything else other than Lana to be involved with. They need something else other than the Zoners (I don't think the GA is another one).
Jaded Wolf
11-16-2006, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by treker
Now let's not get started on talking about how smallville doesn't follow the mythology...otherwise I'll start talking about clana and then someone will bash me over the head saying it's not canon and then I'll bash them over the head saying smallville doesn't follow canon and so on and so forth.....
:)
Exactly my point. It pays homage but it isn't "canon" so to speak.
SheaMan
04-22-2007, 02:50 AM
I think it would be great if the Braniac got "free of Zod" maybe even with Clarks help... and then he turns into an independant villian of his own!
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