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MBCorp

10-20-2006, 12:10 AM

Anybody else find it kind of funny that Clark has barely been in the last few episodes?

hassenmorad

10-20-2006, 12:15 AM

Yea, but I think it was definitely justified in this episode, to develop the Green Arrow character.

MidgardDragon

10-20-2006, 05:00 AM

Yep, sometimes you have to make sacrifices to set up the recurring storyline. We have to know about GA and actually like him before we're going to buy Clark being part of a hero group with him.

InLove_with_Chloe

10-20-2006, 05:13 AM

...after 20 minutes I was like: am I watching the right show? Is that SV?!? Where the **** is Clark?!?

MOD NOTE: This is a PG-13 fourm, watch your language

TVK

10-20-2006, 06:13 AM

Everyone knows Clark - other character developement was needed - liked it - but wanted more superClark

Dor el

10-20-2006, 10:41 AM

Funny? Nope. Odd? Yep. I don't like it when Clark is upstaged by a guest star.

MBCorp

10-20-2006, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by Dor el
Funny? Nope. Odd? Yep. I don't like it when Clark is upstaged by a guest star.

I didn't mean funny haha. I meant funny as in odd.:P

Dor el

10-20-2006, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by MBCorp
I didn't mean funny haha. I meant funny as in odd.:P

Then, yes, I agree. It was funny.

What is ":P"?

AlwaysAround

10-20-2006, 10:51 AM

Where have you been?

It isn't Smallville.
They flashed the wrong opening credits.
It's been changed to "Star City" now.

MBCorp

10-20-2006, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by Dor el
What is ":P"?

:P is this: :p, except I accidently used an uppercase P instead of a lowercase one.

Dor el

10-20-2006, 10:55 AM

Thanks.

nabadua

10-20-2006, 12:37 PM

Strange. A poster in this thread is upset they didn't focus on Clark because it's Smallville and yet in a thread near this one, they wonder where Jimmy is. Very odd.

Krypton935

10-20-2006, 12:41 PM

In this episode they couldn't have based it around Clark. This was to develop the Green Arrow and it worked great. If they put too much Clark people wouldn't have got the just of the GA. Itt was good.

Spoon AZ

10-20-2006, 02:02 PM

No because it was introducing another a major character that needed to established for his multi-episode arc.

Clark doesn't always have to be the focus. Tons of shows have episodes that steer away from the main character.

jimmyolsenblues

10-20-2006, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by MBCorp
Anybody else find it kind of funny that Clark has barely been in the last few episodes?

Not Funny, down right sad.
Clark is getting pushed around in every episode. Everyone else is fluff and unnessary. We need some Clark centric episodes stat, did you see the ratings people don't like the extras getting the main stage.

margroks

10-20-2006, 02:12 PM

No, I don't think it was good at all. I tune in to see Tom as Clark and not GA even though I liked him in the comics. Especially to see him yammering on at Clark about helpng people outside his small group pf family and friends when he just saved the world from Zod three weeks ago. Heck, Clark saved strangers in the pilot so that's nonsense. So a few good scenes with Clark, GA and Chloe but otherwise dull.

And besides that, GA and Lois are just the worst with no chemistry and I have no interest in watching this awful girl be needlessly rude and whine to her cousin, an actual reporter at a great legitimate newspaper, that she wants her to do Lois' research for her.

AlwaysAround

10-20-2006, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by margroks

And besides that, GA and Lois are just the worst with no chemistry and I have no interest in watching this awful girl be needlessly rude and whine to her cousin, an actual reporter at a great legitimate newspaper, that she wants her to do Lois' research for her.

Blame the writers for not getting their crap strait and writing Lois the way she should be written. Of course that's a little hard when you got Clark's crutch sucking up all the reporter vibe and leaving none for Clark or Lois (he is no where near being a reporter thanks to her).
Mindless! They just keep writing him that way. It's so pathetic. This is supposed to be Superman and a great reporter for the Daily Planet? :rolleyes:

No wonder the ratings are rock bottom.
People tune into Smallville expecting to see a young Superman and all they get is a guy that whines all the time, some blond chick rattling on and on all the time, and some soap opera reject dressed in a Kmart ninja turtles costume and pining for what is supposed to be Lois Lane.

Dor el

10-20-2006, 02:34 PM

Yeah. Wonder if the "Lois and Jimmy" show would've been a hit. Clark is the guy who is the big deal. He should be the focus of the show. We got plenty of shows about teen angst, romance, couples, crime, etc. We have precious few about iconic heros. Give me more Clark going from point A to point B.

MarkAllan22

10-20-2006, 03:01 PM

Same way almost next to nothing happens in Smallville now. It's pretty much all Metropolis.

margroks

10-20-2006, 03:12 PM

That's completely unfair and inaccurate. Chloe is a great character but that doesn't prevent the writers from doing right by others. Chloe is not the reason Lois is so awful; that's the writers who want her that way and the actress who portrays her being unable to do anything with what she gets. As for CLark, he has beena reporter in the past and will be again; that, too is no fault of Chloe's. You do remember that he had to drop out of school because his dad dies, right? In fact, Clark is often at the DP getting info and working with Chloe in an unofficial capacity.

That's always been the best of Smallville anyway, as far as I'm concerned. It's up to the writers and actors to make their characters believable or flop. Clark is great when we actually get to see him in an ep and he was rather lacking this week.

It's not CHloe's fault when other characters can't bring it.

TheOriginalKal-el

10-20-2006, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
Not Funny, down right sad.
Clark is getting pushed around in every episode. Everyone else is fluff and unnessary. We need some Clark centric episodes stat, did you see the ratings people don't like the extras getting the main stage.

Exactly. I keep forgetting is this show called Smallville of the Young Justice League? Wait...I remember now it's called...

Smallville: The rise of Lex Luthor

:rolleyes:

WhiteMage

10-20-2006, 04:00 PM

I don't have a problem with Lois's character at all. The Smallville writers are notoriously slow when it comes to character progress and development. Lois is just now getting into journalism, so it's going to take time before she becomes the woman she was meant to be. I'm fine with that, it's better than the "lightswitch" way of doing things. Same goes with Clark's feelings for Lois: it should take time to develop, I don't want to see him head over heels for Lo by the next episode!

And for Lex...well, I don't even know what to say about him. Once my love, my favorite on this show; now boring. Lana has that effect on whomever she's around, I guess.

And Chloe? Yeah, she's a good character. Too bad she doesn't really have anything to do with the Superman mythos. Too bad its Lois who will be the head journalist in the Daily Planet with Clark after her heart. So where does that leave our exceptionally brilliant and talented Chloe Sullivan?

Six feet under by the end of the season.

sjoispalakon

10-20-2006, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Yep, sometimes you have to make sacrifices to set up the recurring storyline. We have to know about GA and actually like him before we're going to buy Clark being part of a hero group with him.

Bah, JLA:rolleyes: , The whole concept's so lame. But the ending of this episode was interesting

Dor el

10-21-2006, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by margroks
[B Chloe is not the reason Lois is so awful; that's the writers who want her that way and the actress who portrays her being unable to do anything with what she gets. In fact, Clark is often at the DP getting info and working with Chloe in an unofficial capacity.

That's always been the best of Smallville anyway, as far as I'm concerned. It's up to the writers and actors to make their characters believable or flop. Clark is great when we actually get to see him in an ep and he was rather lacking this week.

It's not CHloe's fault when other characters can't bring it. [/B]

Yep. EDLois tries too hard to be fiesty and snarky. Sarcasm and abrasivenenss come naturally for some people, but this Lois must work way too hard in an attempt to pull it off. It hurts me to watch her. AM seems to be more natural in her character and it is easy for me to watch.

And I do enjoy the epi when Clark and Chloe team up to solve a puzzle or to accomplish something. They seem very comfortable with each other.

Pal-El

10-21-2006, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by MBCorp
Anybody else find it kind of funny that Clark has barely been in the last few episodes?

And next weeks is going to be Oliver/Lex orientated, so another Clark weak episode:\

BadToad

10-21-2006, 12:53 PM

I'm very unhappy with the amount of storyline focus Clark has gotten this season. One episode focusing on GA would be fine, but apparently he's going to be front and center in 7 eps. This show doesn't need this. Give him his own show if someone is so hyped about him. But SV is a CLARK KENT show, not Ollie Queen.

I don't mind focus going away from Clark now and again. But this is 3 eps in a row, with the next one looking like more of the same, and IMO, that sucks!

whiteflag

10-21-2006, 01:01 PM

xrayvision

10-21-2006, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by BadToad
I'm very unhappy with the amount of storyline focus Clark has gotten this season. One episode focusing on GA would be fine, but apparently he's going to be front and center in 7 eps. This show doesn't need this. Give him his own show if someone is so hyped about him. But SV is a CLARK KENT show, not Ollie Queen.

I don't mind focus going away from Clark now and again. But this is 3 eps in a row, with the next one looking like more of the same, and IMO, that sucks!

This is why I wanted for them to have a Clark vs. Kal-El season long arc. It would give Clark his own arc and not involve him in dumb triangles so he could learn to become his own man completely. A nice set-up where Kal-El would be a type of anti hero with global domineering ways who rules with an iron fist would be a good way for Clark to learn to do more of the same, but in an ethical manner. As Clark would track him throughout the world between their battles while at the same time helping those he finds in need, he would help not just local people or those close to him but everyone. It would show how all other characters would be involved in their usual petty stories while Clark would rise above them all.

Actually, I would have liked that to happen while the other characters were involved in better stories, like Lana finding out clues about Clark & Lex's obsession of him (that room) and wanting to leave Lex. Lex would be great also tracking down Kal-El along with blackmailing Lana with Genevieve's murder while doing everything he can to dethrone and take Martha's state senate seat. Pete could return to pursue his political origins as Lex's assistant and be an inside man for Clark into Lex's affairs. Chloe would be good facing off against Lex (like countering his blackmail scheme with one of her own using evidence she, Clark, Lois and Pete could find of Bridgette Crosby's death and Lex's involvement in the coverup) and trying to keep him away from Clark's secret and finding out that Kal-El is part of Clark. Throw Lionel in the mix with his own agendas, and that would have been my killer version of season 6 that wouldn't need any JLA, phantoms, stupid love triangles and could instead focus on the main SV roster and their development with strong plots & drama like season 3 had plus tons of action with 4-5 Clark vs. Kal-El battles.

boywithbluehanger

10-21-2006, 07:07 PM

I think that the lack of Clark in the recent episodes proves that AlMiles didnt plan on Smallville lasting as long as it has. It seems as if he's so close to where he needs to be in this retelling that they are stringing out the last two possible things holding him back:
The fear of constantly having to hide his abilities/origin and his fear of heights.

The beauty of the show being titled Smallville is that either Clark, Lex, or Lana can be used as the show's leading star. One could argue that Clark started off the star of the show and now Lex and Lana have leading parts.

Of course Loisers could defend that Smallville has a double meaning, being that it is also the (oh so creative:rolleyes: ) nickname given to Clark by Lois.

You know... I have seen that people are posting in threads that the lack of Chloe is hurting the ratings. And lack of Clana etc....not many have said the lack of Clark...I wonder why that is?!... :confused:

xrayvision

10-21-2006, 07:20 PM

I'm not sure they thought it would last so long or if it was a matter of them spending so much time on that Aquaman show that failed that they don't know what to do with SV. Or because they want to develop Ollie and even these stupid triangles which they obviously wanted to do from day one as they themselves said.

The thing that sucks is that my post above allows Clark to train for an entire season, which would keep him busy in a way we have never seen him before and would maybe provide the most interesting scenes he could be in. I believe that the last season should have him all ready and trained and working out some of the minor details before his Superman days where he would be doing all heroic deeds like he will when he is Superman. It should be the season where he can perhaps don a disguise and be responsible for ousting Lex from Smallville by the end.

RedPhoenix23

10-21-2006, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by MBCorp
Anybody else find it kind of funny that Clark has barely been in the last few episodes?

Nah. Sometimes to service the season arc, the main character will get less screentime in some of the episodes. Just remember what they did in season 4.... do you want a repeat of season 4? Lot's of random episodes with lot's of Clark but the rest of the arc stuff gets sacrificed and makes little to no sense? Not me. I'll gladly take less Clark in order to properly set everything up.

Or any other season, when the random FOTW is suspose to have som kind of huge impact on Clark and teach him a valuble lesson on life and the importance of his powers.... just to be forgotton about next week? This season has GA doing just that, but it's much more believable because there is so much build up behind it. So even though there was less Clark in Arrow, Clark's character probably had more valid growth in the last few minutes of this ep then he's had in 5 seasons... and the best part? GA is still going to be around next week, so Clark can't conviently forget that lesson. Long Live the Green Arrow!

Miss L

10-21-2006, 07:36 PM

If only wishing made your storyline so, xray....

Unfortunately we have what we have. I'm glad that Clark at least had a strong showing in his little bit of storyline. He used his brain!!!