"The Fortress is Dead?"

[Mr.Kal-El]

Is this really the end of the Jor-El and the Fortress? Could it be only Clark now? It seems sudden, but Clark's really alone I guess. Thoughts?

[Kara15]

I'm pretty disappointed about it. :(

[Shadowlord367]

I thought the same thing. The fortress didnt crumble or anything. maybe jor-el was having some coffee? I don't know but those phantom thingys were cool!

[Kal EL2380]

It needs power. I'm pretty sure thats what Lionel was writing, although i could be wrong....

[FiveForFighting09]

maybe he was using the restroom.......i hope it's not dead......loved the FOS

[thehenry89]

it aint the first time the fortress has "died" superman two anyone

[Mr.Kal-El]

I think Lionel's writings might have been about what Lex now has. Great cliffhangers, but I'm thinking Jor-El will return.

[EricN68]

I bet it's only temporary, or something that Clark can fix if only he can figure out how.

[Rosa76]

I agree, I believe the FOS will regain its life back . :rolleyes:

[SmallvilleFan2001]

And our season long story arc is born. It's just like the stones were in season 4.

[Wildfire]

My brother though it was becasue Jor-el is a bit ticked at BDA for now. I doubt hes gone becasue he's the only one who can help Clark train. Jor-el will be back let just hope Jr finally gets it now.

[k18]

I think it's good since Clark can decide his destiny without Jor-el forcing it on him. Once Clark decides, Jor-el will come back to train him.

[luthorsmentor]

Originally posted by Rosa76
I agree, I believe the FOS will regain its life back . :rolleyes:

if you want to tick off every superman fan in the world then they will leave it as a dead and desolate place.......that being said, given their history that is probably the route that they will go.

[Mr.Kal-El]

It's really hard to predict, but it would be really sad to see such a great set piece go, and TS of course. It's going to be a lonely road for Clark this season, but all the better drama IMO.

[yushwa]

Yeah I'm pretty sure Clark will find a way to bring life back to the Fortress.

However, when Clark mentioned trying to call out to Jor-El in the fortress and no one answered, I thought it was cuz Jor-El was upset at Clark for not listening to his command about killing the vessel (Lex) from the start. Once again Earth's future was almost in jepoardy because Clark refused to listen to his father.

[Kalel33076]

Seems kinda lame that the Fortress only lasted one season

[Closet Cloiser]

I'd be willing to bet Raya has a hand in the restoration of the FOS. Just a guess tho.

[Theshadow129x]

Originally posted by yushwa
Yeah I'm pretty sure Clark will find a way to bring life back to the Fortress.

However, when Clark mentioned trying to call out to Jor-El in the fortress and no one answered, I thought it was cuz Jor-El was upset at Clark for not listening to his command about killing the vessel (Lex) from the start. Once again Earth's future was almost in jepoardy because Clark refused to listen to his father.

i agree i dont think its truely gone i think it will be back

[Mr.Kal-El]

I guess we'll have to wait till Fallout to see. This is off the topic a bit, but does Lex now have access to the Pentagon or to some power from the stone?

[Nospam]

Guys! Guys! (and gals). All that happened is the Fortress satellite dish got whacked out of alignment. That's all. Maybe with Raya's help Clark will superjump to the roof while Raya listens for the moment when Jor-El's voice comes in loud and clear. See? And I bet the reason Jor-El was shouting all of last season was that darn dish needed a bit of a tweak. Ain't a big thing.

[jimmyolsenblues]

"The Fortress is Dead?" only temporarily for a short time till clark finds the crystal in the superman 2 movie. duh.... ;)

[DWBSR620]

Well a big tie in to the FOS was that knife/crystal that Zod broke in half. When Clark threw that into Brainiac it released Zod and de-powered the FOS. Therefore it may be possible that the broken end of the knife contains the crystal to re-power the FOS. Just a thought, take care.


Peace To All.

[sstray72]

I'm sure the FOS just needs time to heal/recharge itself. It'll be back. JorEl may just be giving Clark the silent treatment, or giving him some slack to realize his destiny on his own.

[Hugo]

DWBSR620, I like your thoery about the other half of knife being used to repower the fortress. I was thinking the same thing. I bet Clark will team up with Lionel (he'll be this years sidekick like Chole was last year because she's busy with Jimmy) to fashion a new half of the knife. The new knife will recharge the fortress and it will tick Lex off because Clark and Lionel are working so closely on it together.

[Rafael122]

Maybe someone flipped the off switch?

I doubt its the season arc. For all we know, its probably back up by Episode 2.

[wb-superman]

well of my knowledge of old Superman's movies. Clark did built the FOS and he is the only person to power that place.

[TheRealClarkKent]

"Kal-el's destiny is now his own" ~ Jor-el

nuf said

[warriorrenegade]

No its not dead, Martha just tripped over the plug in and yanked it from the wall. :D Clark just has to plug it back in, he'll figure it out give him time.:lol:

I think Jor-EL used the last bit of life force to power up the transporter to send Martha and Lois back through the cave. If you listen to him talking you can hear his voice faulter here and there as if he were dying. For a second I thought he would appear from behind one of the pillars. It sounded as if he were right there with them.

[Wildfire]

I really think Jor-el is just wanting a cooling off peroid. I mean look at it this way. Jor-el saves this kids life sees to it he gets a good home heals him gets him off red K turns back time just so he can save Lana and saves his no good butt after the BDA decides to disobey him and forfit his power. . .

Jorel has done alot from Clark but everytime he reaches out to him Clark runs the other way. Now he realses not ZOD the guy who kind of killed everyone on their planet including Jorel himself and his wife but pretty much everyother criminal from krypton.

I think Jor-el is owed the right to be annoyed with Clark and probably want to give the kid time to wake up. You know Jor-el may have not always done the right thing to us but he put his kid first always and all hes ever gotten from Clark is blame complaining hate. . .

After all this plus Kyrtons most wanted running around want to kill you him and everything else becsaue he yet again could not do what he was told the how you feel seeing what Zod had done. . . . I really think Jor-el is finally giving JR the time out hes been asking for since season 2.

[Spirit Detective]

The Fortress was not dead. Lionel can still write the Kryptonian symbols. He MUST still have Jor-el's influence.

[WangTang]

Im kind of glad, as smallville has been to incosistant with Jor-el powers and abilites. He can posses people,has a time altering crystal,can give humans powers, can reanimate the dead,use people as "oracles", can see universal events, and can teleport people to different locations around the world. But yet he seemingly could not use these powers to stop Brainiac or Zod.

[jack1487]

I don't feel that the FOS is gone.. I think that Jor-El will some how have Clark fix the place, anyway I hope so...

Jack

[xrayvision]

Perhaps Jor-El is testing Clark and is making him step up to the plate for his destiny since he failed so many times when he did it forcefully.

[Spirit Detective]

That sounds like a good idea xrayvision. Hopefully Clark will be more grateful this season. I really hope that he accepts Jor-el after everything that Raya told him.

[Phantazma]

I bet Con Ed is responsible. :D

I doubt that the FOS is dead; it probably needs to be recharged with some thing clichéd like some kind of Kryptonian bodily fluid needing to be spilt onto some console.

[Spirit Detective]

The Fortress is damaged from Brainiac's effect on the console, but it is not dead.

[All about Clark]

Originally posted by TheRealClarkKent
"Kal-el's destiny is now his own" ~ Jor-el

Good line! Maybe Jor-el has given up and needs a "I need you father" from Clark.

[ginnyfan]

That made me very sad. I hope Jor-el comes back.

Then again I love that Clark's destiny is his own now. So if that's 'cause Jor-el is gone... then he should stay gone. :(

[nemrod]

maybe the power surge caused a fuse to blow...

[All about Clark]

Originally posted by ginnyfan
Then again I love that Clark's destiny is his own now. So if that's 'cause Jor-el is gone... then he should stay gone. :(

I too appreciate that Clark's destiny is his own, but Clark will decide he still needs Jor-el at some point. And Jor-el will comply knowing it's Clark's decision.

[lost in smallville]

I am sure the destroyed keypad and broken knife will all tie into the FOS as well as Lex. I think the term "Power" will serve as a dual role in the upcoming season. It will point towards Lex continued quest towards evil, as well as restoring the FOS.

[KristinIsAwesome]

Its not dead.. it just ate some bad chinese food... we all know what that does to us... Give it a few weeks to recouperate

[Ares]

RIP

[CallMeClark]

I agree with those of you that said it is a toss up bewteen the word "Power" meaning the fragment Lex has and what the fortress needs.

[kalel2000]

Clark needs to retrieve the dagger from Lex's home, to reactivate the FOS. Remember Jor-El instructed Martha to bring back the dagger. Hopefully those dumb Smallville writers remember this.

[Kal EL2380]

The FOS is not dead. This is the writers way of getting Clark to back Jor-El for a change. He'll work to get it back online. Also on another note.... anyone notice Marthas face when she was talking about Jor-El at the end?

[Lightning Flash]

The writers way of getting Clark back to Jor-El... I like that idea...

[udtiger]

Isn't Raya supposed to return later this season? It seems to me that if the FOS is not up and running again by that time, she'd probably be able to repair it 9assuming she is who she claims to be).

[Liriel]

"Kal-el's destiny is now his own"Thank you! If you'd said (and meant) that years ago, I think things would have gone much better.

[myankskent]

I think that this is just the writers way to kill time so that Clark doesn't have to go to the fortress and receive character development from Jor-El. Down the road, the fortress will be back but for those of you who were convinced that Clark was going to start training at the fortress this season, doesn't look like that's happening.

[krpto]

the key from the cave will probably jump start the caves again and reload the fos somehow. Then Lara will say you cannot depend on your father forever there are some leasons you must learn on your own.

[Daspoo]

Originally posted by myankskent
I think that this is just the writers way to kill time so that Clark doesn't have to go to the fortress and receive character development from Jor-El. Down the road, the fortress will be back but for those of you who were convinced that Clark was going to start training at the fortress this season, doesn't look like that's happening. Well said. And I think the FOS restoration will have something to do with the "S" symbol "stone/key" Clark used to free Lex from Zod. Who knows though. At the rate things started off, this season may be known for quickly-resolved/inadequately-explained events all over the place. Man I hope GA restores the show's interest. I won't stop watching, but I won't rush out to buy Season 6's DVDs when this is all over. :\

[xrayvision]

I just hope they don't copy the movies (both Superman II and SR) and have Lionel in this case try to revive the FOS so he can rule the world.

[alaina106]

I think that Jor-El is "hiding" from Clark at the moment because he is angry that Clark didn't kill Lex right off the start. I think he'll be back to "help" Clark fulfill his destiny.

[margroks]

I thought maybe the AI had shifted itself to some other locale like the Andes or is hiding in some other spot near the original caves in Smallville but maybe not.

That's good. The FOS needs power and Clark need to find a way to get some for it.

[xrayvision]

Jor-El is giving him the silent or perhaps SilentKal (as SilentKal may like) treatment.

[last man of krypton]

Thoughts which spring to mind:

Clark: Jor-El? Father, I realise now you've been protecting me and guiding me all this time, having only my best interests at heart. I'm ready to receive all you have to give. Father, can you hear me? Jor-El? Jor-El! <storms off, mutteing> Stupid igloo, never coming here again...
Jor-El: Hello? I was on 'sleep mode', is anyone there? Hello?

Or...

Clark: Jor-El? Father, I realise now you've been protecting me and guiding me all this time, having only my best interests at heart. I'm ready to receive all you have to give.
Jor-El: <thinks> Oh? Now you're ready to listen to me? Now that you've spent a summer stealing, a year ignoring the quest for the stones, didn't make a single effort to come and talk to me unless Martha and Lana were on their deathbeds, and the earth is actually safe now? Well, tough. You're lucky I'm not taking your powers from you again and making you walk back to Smallville.

[Bumperjeep]

I agree with everyone here. The FOS will be back. I just want to know if Lionel was writing power in terms of the FOS or for his own benefit.

[Daspoo]

Originally posted by Daspoo
Well said. And I think the FOS restoration will have something to do with the "S" symbol "stone/key" Clark used to free Lex from Zod. Who knows though. At the rate things started off, this season may be known for quickly-resolved/inadequately-explained events all over the place. Man I hope GA restores the show's interest. I won't stop watching, but I won't rush out to buy Season 6's DVDs when this is all over. :\ Is it possible to agree with one's own post? LOL Ok, I change my answer. Clark said at the end of the episode that he placed Raya's crystal in the FOS for safe keeping, so I guess it would make 0 sense for the FOS to be "revived" using that crystal. I guess it'll have to be the knife that restores it. After all, the handle's made of a crystal, yeah?

[Tomsgurl88]

I would of liked if they had a scene when Clark was in the fortress trying to talk to Jor-el and him not answering, i think that could of been a good emotional scene.

[omegadirective]

did anyone notice that as Martha walks into the Fortress with Lois in tow that the walls are pulsing red? Did anyone also notice that Jor-El talked much quieter than usual, as if he was weakened? He said the Fortress was damaged (which would explain the pulsing red). Most likely, Jor-El used the last of the Fortress's power to beam Martha and Lois back to the Caves. Jor-El said Clark's destiny is his own, so i don't think Jor-El is coming back. I suppose it is possible that Clark could repower the Fortress with some kind of power source...

[All about Clark]

Jor-el and the fortress will be back. This is just TPTB way of keeping Clark from his training, they must want that closer towards the end of the series. So sad.