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superhippie2000
09-25-2006, 04:10 PM
What do you think of the Phantom Zone?

Pal-El
09-27-2006, 01:28 AM
From the trailer it looks like they've gone down the Supergirl route. I hope we get to see how he gets there, from the crystal portal Zod trapped him in.

RedPhoenix23
09-27-2006, 03:21 AM
From the promo's it looks like the Phantom Zone is in "Lawerance of Arabia land." I wonder why if he's in the desert, why do WE see him in the flat peice of Phantom Zone Glass thing? :confused:

Pal-El
09-27-2006, 03:26 AM
Its interesting to be sure. I think the pictures we've seen show Clark with Raya in a dessert like place, will have some sort of effects used - to make it look like what we see in the trailer clip. All windy and dark/sinister looking.

But yeah I want to see how the PZ window gets him there...

superhippie2000
09-27-2006, 06:43 AM
my guess is that he will just be there and there will be no explanation from the window mirror thing to the world inside. but i do wonder how that works like if its just a little waiting room till the other door opens to let you in.

Krypton935
09-27-2006, 08:14 AM
^^If that was the case who whould go in with a bunch of wacky kryptonians?

I have a question Where did they find a desert in Vancouver?

superhippie2000
09-27-2006, 09:08 AM
well i mean its like a holding cell until they are transported to the main cell. like when people go to jail they dont automatically go in the cell they will be in for there time they wait in a room till they get finger printed and pictures and all that stuff so the get imputed in the computer. i doubt thats how the phantom zone works but who knows.


i think it was said somewhere where they filmed the phantom zone but forget exactly what it said. it was something like they could go to a real area so they just had to go to nearby mountains and film. they probabl;y did some on green skin and had special effects to make it look different.

RedPhoenix23
09-27-2006, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Krypton935
^^If that was the case who whould go in with a bunch of wacky kryptonians?

I have a question Where did they find a desert in Vancouver?

I don't know where exactly but Stargate sometimes films in san dunes that are somewhere in Canada, but it's getting harder and harder to shoot there because they are building house and stuff.... Who in the hell would want to leave next to or in san dunes is mystery... I live in the desert, but I draw the line at san dunes. :p One good gush of wind and that crap gets everywhere.

Ares
09-28-2006, 12:59 PM
PZ looks stupid - stupid dessert - sand is annoying gets everywhere. Not to mention the clothing they were is stupid. But overall the PZ is great.

Poweranimals
09-28-2006, 03:27 PM
I think it's just like an edge of the Phantom Zone. There's like a window between dimensions.

thehenry89
09-28-2006, 03:29 PM
i keep expection some jawa's to try and sell clark some used droids or somethin.

superhippie2000
09-28-2006, 07:06 PM
wow the phantom zone was cool and the way he went from the mirror to there was cool and those creatures were awsome i was expecting that girl to say welcome to the phantom zone b itch

k18
09-28-2006, 07:07 PM
The special effects were AMAZING! It looked so cool!

superhippie2000
09-28-2006, 07:41 PM
that exit was cool damn this is great

EricN68
09-28-2006, 07:43 PM
It could have been cooler -- it could have been something that defied physical reality. But ... given what it was, it was pretty good.

ginnyfan
09-29-2006, 01:43 AM
I liked it. Better than I expected. :)

All about Clark
09-29-2006, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by ginnyfan
I liked it. Better than I expected. :)

I agree completely. The change in lighting from the pics was a good choice too.

Ares
09-29-2006, 05:46 AM
yea it was fine - glad it didnt last long

smallvilleobsessor17
09-29-2006, 06:24 AM
The Phantom Zone was horrible. It made me laugh. I did not worry for Clark's life, and those pitiful phantoms might only have scared a 3 month old.

superspider02
09-29-2006, 07:52 AM
I thought it looked cool. I am glad it was changed with F/X from looking like a regular desert look to that eerie blueish/green alien desert place it looked sweet.

FaaipDeOiad31
09-29-2006, 08:14 AM
I thought it was a clever way to shoot it... vast nothingness, drab colors. Clever.

superboy_2006
09-29-2006, 08:49 AM
Yep, I really like the Phantom Zone looking, it's really fitting set.

Man, is it short to see PZ? It should be longer! I hope that they will get us back to PZ if necessary.

Lightning Flash
09-29-2006, 08:56 AM
The PZ was pretty awesome.

jimmyolsenblues
09-29-2006, 09:00 AM
If time was not a factor in the phantom zone , why not leave clark for their for a long time. like let him learn stuff, then bring him back to the second he left. You know. I want to see my BDA learn stuff.

amberdawn
09-29-2006, 09:07 AM
I actually think it was done well. Not what I expected, but it was cool. :)

superhippie2000
09-29-2006, 09:12 AM
time is not a factor cause each day in there is like a million days on earth so you dont age and dont do anything and your bored and stuff its not like you go in and when you get out its the same day as you left. and clark cant learn anything in there cause he has no powers so training would have been pointless.

warriorrenegade
09-29-2006, 09:39 AM
I thought the PZ looked great. The colors, the barrien desert landscapes it looked cool. Even the "Phantoms" rocked, yeah they looked cheesy and fake but I could live with it. I remember fans last year saying the FOS looked especially fake as it was being built, but you get over it.

BadToad
09-29-2006, 09:40 AM
I thought it was awesome. I loved the FX. And it definitely looked like a place you wouldn't want to be exiled to.

I would've loved a whole episode set in the Phantom Zone. I thought it was that cool.

vyperman7
09-29-2006, 09:43 AM
The PZ was great. One of my favorite things about the episode. However where it suffered was due to time constraints of the episode. It was great to here the House of El mentioned and for Clark to learn more about Jor-El. But if we could have gotten at least two episodes or more, they could have gone into it more and developed it better.

The thing about Smallville is that it always feels like I am at Baskin Robbins getting to sample a flavor, and never actually getting to truly enjoy desert. We always get a small hint of what we want, but they never fully expand on it. We most likely won't get to see inside of the PZ again. I really liked what they did give us. I just wish it was more.

warriorrenegade
09-29-2006, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by vyperman7
The PZ was great. One of my favorite things about the episode. However where it suffered was due to time constraints of the episode. It was great to here the House of El mentioned and for Clark to learn more about Jor-El. But if we could have gotten at least two episodes or more, they could have gone into it more and developed it better.

The thing about Smallville is that it always feels like I am at Baskin Robbins getting to sample a flavor, and never actually getting to truly enjoy desert. We always get a small hint of what we want, but they never fully expand on it. We most likely won't get to see inside of the PZ again. I really liked what they did give us. I just wish it was more.

:lol: So true. Though from the trailer they've seem to connect the premiere and ep2 , so theres still some hope. Lets just hope it doesn't end up like Crusade/Gone.:)

Maybe we'll get to see the PZ again , but not the PZ itself. Like another poster's idea. We get to see the FOS danger-room and see Clark train in the PZ. Lame maybe, but its something.

vyperman7
09-29-2006, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by warriorrenegade
:lol: So true. Though from the trailer they've seem to connect the premiere and ep2 , so theres still some hope. Lets just hope it doesn't end up like Crusade/Gone.:)

Maybe we'll get to see the PZ again , but not the PZ itself. Like another poster's idea. We get to see the FOS danger-room and see Clark train in the PZ. Lame maybe, but its something.

I was amazed when I saw the trailer because I was worried that it would have nothing to do with Zod at all.

But I am a bit confused at why they are not promoting the true reason for the episode with Clark's new power. You would think that would be the main selling point.

warriorrenegade
09-29-2006, 10:30 AM
You'd think , but my guess is they've caught wind of " fan complaints" that the story arc doesn't carry over episode to episode.

But you're right it seems "dumb" that they don't want to promote Clarks new power. Past power episodes have always done well ratings wise and with last years ratings drop off you'd think they'd want to get all the ratings they could.

Crispin Glover
09-29-2006, 10:59 AM
The best parts of the episode! I would have rather seen Zod fighting Clark in the Phantom Zone!

Coyote
09-29-2006, 11:17 AM
The basic concept of the zone was a nice creative solution. That Raya girl did nothing for me, and the phantoms were a little cheesy. But overall it was a good idea.

j03superbat
09-29-2006, 08:16 PM
I would have preferred it if the zone was just one giant hall of mirrors and crystals and no matter where you were in the Zone you could see outside.

I mean, why bother with the "record album effect" if Clark was just going to end up in another world altogether? I didn't actually mind the world that Clark ended up in (you know, that whole desert thing), but I would have liked it better if the portal sent him there directly instead of bothering with the whole "record album effect".

lilkoolmaria
09-29-2006, 08:24 PM
It think it was awesome. Especially the weird phantom thingies. They looked so evil! No, but seriously, I thought it was perfect. Although, I wouldn't want to be stuck there.

Bumperjeep
09-30-2006, 09:47 AM
Clark should not have escaped so easily. He should have at least been in there for the 2nd epiosde, so the world would be in terror in my opinion.

superhippie2000
09-30-2006, 11:56 AM
ya but they wanted to wrap the episode in one episode so they had to get him out. wish there was more tho and have it a 2 parter cause it would have been nice to explore the phantom zone a bit more. mayb4e later on we will.

smallvillecrazygurl04
09-30-2006, 12:48 PM
I loved how the Phantom Zone looked, It was very desert like. But It looked awesome

alaina106
09-30-2006, 02:52 PM
I thought the Phantom Zone looked cool, but the only thing that confused me was how everything was in black and white except for Clark's blood. Why wouldn't they make his blood black to unless they didn't for a specific reason. What would it be?

jesustlife
09-30-2006, 03:56 PM
Well, Smallville keeps getting ideas from Donner's Superman. This phantom zone is Donner's PZ. By using it they pay respect to Donner but at the same time they make him look bad, or cheap, cause Zod, Nun and Ursa never went from the crystal to a desert. They were trap on the crystal the whole trip to Earth. Or, maybe they came out of the dessert just the same day Superman was going to explode a missile in space to free them. What a coincidence. Smallvilles's PZ is a good expanded version. But also contradictory.

ginnyfan
09-30-2006, 04:04 PM
I liked that it was like the Donner films but expanded.

And I liked the way they did the transition from the glass cube to the Desert. Once he was there... just a desert. I liked that they made "Phantom Zone" literal. That the main inhabitants have a life sentence and they are like phantoms there.

I loved seeing Clark there. I liked feeling Kryptonian. I felt, as an audience member that I was from Clark's POV not as a human trapped in an alien jail but as a Kryptonian raised on Earth who's now in Kryptonian jail. I love how there was no hesitation from Clark on this point. He really takes things in stride. When Raya calls him Kal-el its, "How do you know my Kryptonian name." and "Why didn't my mother come with you?" No mincing around, no dragging his feet about his identity. I LOVED that. :D

So my favorite thing about the Phantom Zone was just seeing Clark taking it all in stride. He's super! :D

Timester
09-30-2006, 04:08 PM
I also almost expecting hearing people chanting "Mahdi". :p

Welling_is_pretty
09-30-2006, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Pal-El
it looks like they've gone down the Supergirl route.
very much so. I was almost waiting for Peter O'Toole to step out.
I liked it. I particularly enjoyed the look of Raya's 'house'. It was obviously Kryptonian in design.

Farm_Girl
09-30-2006, 11:00 PM
I liked the Phantom Zone setting. It was as dark, colorless and endless as PZ should be. Different, modern and unique. I liked it.

And I don't know why the exit to PZ reminded me of the Stargate!!

Spirit Detective
09-30-2006, 11:02 PM
The Phantom Zone looked fitting for an eternal void. What better than a barren wastland filled with Sandstorms?

CLSmith
10-01-2006, 01:13 AM
That wasn't a desert, that was a rock quarry.

You want a desolate landscape, film in a rock quarry.

It looks like that might have filmed a couple of Doctor Who episodes there as well.

-cs™

smallvillefreak24
10-01-2006, 03:10 PM
It was not at all what I expected. I thought it would be like a blank dimension where it isn't worth living and you can't die which is the ultimate pergatory. But I guess there would be no way to escape that.

All about Clark
10-02-2006, 01:27 PM
They did a great job with the PZ. Better than I expected, and I also like the effect of seeing Clark's point of view while in the mirror thingy.

But what I was thinking, is what kind of life could Raya have in there for 19 years and is she messed up mentally. How could she find anything worth living for?

myankskent
10-02-2006, 01:30 PM
The phantom zone was spectacular. It's just too bad that they had to get out of there so quickly, I would've liked to see some more stuff take place in there. One can only hope that they bring it back at some point in the future, but something tells me that Clark won't be back in there ever again so it would be hard to show it as a result of that.

Nerial
10-02-2006, 01:31 PM
I love it. Now, I have questions about it, (basic--do they eat there, how does time work there...blah blah blah), that probably won't get answered. But, that's okay.

It looked like a wasteland, but definitely had an alien feel to it (the landscape, the colors, and those phantoms). That's exactly what I wanted. Nicely done!

All about Clark
10-02-2006, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by myankskent
It's just too bad that they had to get out of there so quickly, I would've liked to see some more stuff take place in there.

I can't see anything else taking place there other than Clark getting his ass kicked further. After all, every inhabitant would try to kill him. That was the point, if he didn't get out of there quick, he would be dead.

last man of krypton
10-02-2006, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Welling_is_pretty
I particularly enjoyed the look of Raya's 'house'. It was obviously Kryptonian in design.

Me too. I wasn't expecting to see a "mini-Fortress", so the surprise of it added to the enjoyment. Score one for the writers.

xrayvision
10-02-2006, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
I can't see anything else taking place there other than Clark getting his ass kicked further. After all, every inhabitant would try to kill him. That was the point, if he didn't get out of there quick, he would be dead.

It doesn't make sense how Kryptonians made the PZ because it can trap people forever without killing them, but it happens to destroy their bodies at times anyway. In the PZ, there should be no gargoyles & nothing with powers since nobody is under a yellow sun in there. I would like to have seen Clark on an equal footing with the other inmates and fight with the ones who attack him and win even though he has no powers, thus showing that it's not only the powers that make him a hero.

Welling_is_pretty
10-02-2006, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by last man of krypton
Me too. I wasn't expecting to see a "mini-Fortress", so the surprise of it added to the enjoyment. Score one for the writers.
wow, that was exactly what I thought too when I saw it "it's looks like the FOS but smaller"!
I thought it was a brilliant little thing for the writers to add as well.
Sometimes they do get it right.

All about Clark
10-02-2006, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by xrayvision
It doesn't make sense how Kryptonians made the PZ because it can trap people forever without killing them, but it happens to destroy their bodies at times anyway.

I actually like that the writers saw that the Phantom Zone could have phantoms. It was said that the most dangerous criminals were put there without their bodies. But how could they destroy their bodies only? And if Zod was a phantom and needed a body in order to destroy Earth, wouldn't the escaped phantoms also need a body?