The longer then show goes on the less Clark will ever be a super hero

[angelfire east]

The longer then show goes on the less Clark will ever be a super hero. The more this show goes on the stupider he gets and less he uses his powers. In past episodes rather then x-ray things to find out the answers he needs he's waste time listening or just looking normally or how about tonight's "there a tuckor flying at me, I'll just stand here! Cuase it's not like I have superspeed or anything" :rolleyes:

Lets forget the debate about this Clark with his personally ever being the superhero we know and love. Do you see this guy with his powers and smarts ever becoming a just a plain old superhero? (without Chloe telling who to be a hero, who to save and when to save them; doing all the work but the leg work for him)

Does anyone agree? Or disagree?

[KEakaCK]

I totally disagree...Clark is still learning and growing in terms of maturity. You have to keep in mind that he's not fully matured into the greatest superhero we all love. It's with life lessons that he learns through experience makes him who he'll eventually become.

[DarkseidNow]

Dude, I totally agree. These writers have made Clark out to be an utter moron. At this point of the show he should be always thinking "I could have done more" after every life he saves or every disaster he averts. He should be curious about the world around him and begin to start exploring it as he hones his abilities.

IF he ever does become Superman, it clearly wouldn't have been by his own choice. Given how stupid and oblivious to the rest of the world Clark is now, becoming Superman will only be because its been forced down his throat and beaten over his head with a Kryptonite bat!

All he does is whine about his powers and Lana. This Clark is not even close to being Superman in my book. I've written this show off as an Elseworlds alternate dimension since Season Three.

[IVODARK]

Yeah, what angelfire east and DarkseidNow said.

[warriorrenegade]

Disagree. Less we forget hes 19 in this verison hes got atleast another 10 or so years to find himself to find his true purpose. Also would you have him not get hit by the tractor? Wheres the action in that? This is a superman inspired show. I want to see him hit by the tractor, brush the dust off and keep fighting. Isn't that the bigger dilema with this character. Superman in general I mean. Hes to powerful can easily defeat any enemy opposed to him and come out on the other side unharmed. You can't have it like that everytime. Where would the tension and drama be in that? I think you need the right balance take the good with the bad. Im sure theres a thought in here somewhere. I hope it comes through it sounds better in my head LOL.

[Summers]

I agree. It's been five years. Five years, and for the past two years the Kents and Chloe have said he is a man now. They are telling us, but not showing us. When "Commencement" aired everyone is saying "Oh, after this he is be wiser and thrive to be more less selfish". That's not the case. He regressed, and didn't care his powers were gone. Knowing that SV had FoTWs that put people in danger he did not once try to figure out why. He has the Key to go to the FoS, but he didn't ask. He didn't ask to get more information.

He knew someone else will die in Lana's place in "Reckoning". He didn't hesistate, and it cost him his father's life. Anytime a big episode happen some "say he will get it now", or "he is just maturing". The own show is calling him a man. Why can't we treat him like one. Him becoming Superman is a misconception. Clark is Superman. The only difference is the tights and cape. They are one and the same. There is no becoming. There is only choosing what to do with your powers.

Futhermore, this is tv land. A season is a like seven years in dog years :lol:. A whole lot things could have developed over five seasons. What are people going to say in S6? That it took S5 to wake the boy up :\.

[IVODARK]

Originally posted by warriorrenegade
Disagree. Less we forget hes 19 in this verison hes got atleast another 10 or so years to find himself to find his true purpose. Also would you have him not get hit by the tractor? Wheres the action in that? This is a superman inspired show. I want to see him hit by the tractor, brush the dust off and keep fighting. Isn't that the bigger dilema with this character. Superman in general I mean. Hes to powerful can easily defeat any enemy opposed to him and come out on the other side unharmed. You can't have it like that everytime. Where would the tension and drama be in that? I think you need the right balance take the good with the bad. Im sure theres a thought in here somewhere. I hope it comes through it sounds better in my head LOL.

Don't worry, it came through. I too like the action, don't get me wrong. But you can have both the action and the godlike powerful alien, without making such alien look like a moron. Smallville is not about Superman anymore to me. It's about some farm boy, who happens to come from Krypton, has the power to conquer the world in a week or keep it safe for as long as he lives, but instead he spends his days pining selfishly about some selfish girl, whining about his powers and origins and relying on some implausible 19 year old female version of Bruce Wayne without the dark attitude (or his money, or charisma, or background, or training) to solve all of his problems.

[xrayvision]

Originally posted by DarkseidNow
Dude, I totally agree. These writers have made Clark out to be an utter moron. At this point of the show he should be always thinking "I could have done more" after every life he saves or every disaster he averts. He should be curious about the world around him and begin to start exploring it as he hones his abilities.

IF he ever does become Superman, it clearly wouldn't have been by his own choice. Now, given how stupid and oblivious to the rest of the world Clark is now, become Superman will only be because its been forced down his throat and beaten over his head with a Kryptonite bat!

All he does is whine about his powers and Lana. This Clark is not even close to being Superman in my book. I've written this show off as an Elseworlds alternate dimension since Season Three.

That's why I think him purposely unleashing Kal-El as a temporary partner to stop Fine & LexZod and then fighting him throughout next season around the world as an enemy he doesn't defeat until the end of S6 (or S7 opener if there is one) would be great for this. He would find out the most about his powers by fighting someone who has those same powers plus additional ones yet to be obtained. And only when Clark beats him does he get those additional powers. It would be a great season long arc. I would have between 5-7 battles between them if not more.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by Summers
I agree. It's been five years. Five years, and for the past two years the Kents and Chloe have said he is a man now. They are telling us, but not showing us. When "Commencement" aired everyone is saying "Oh, after this he is be wiser and thrive to be more less selfish". That's not the case. He regressed, and didn't care his powers were gone. Knowing that SV had FoTWs that put people in danger he did not once try to figure out why. He has the Key to go to the FoS, but he didn't ask. He didn't ask to get more information.

He knew someone else will die in Lana's place in "Reckoning". He didn't hesistate, and it cost him his father's life. Anytime a big episode happen some "say he will get it now", or "he is just maturing". The own show is calling him a man. Why can't we treat him like one. Him becoming Superman is a misconception. Clark is Superman. The only difference is the tights and cape. They are one and the same. There is know becoming. There is only choosing what to do with your powers.

Futhermore, this is tv land. A season is a like seven years in dog years :lol:. A whole lot things could have developed over five seasons. What are people going to say in S6? That it took S5 to wake the boy up :\.

Mel I competely agree!:)

[IVODARK]

Originally posted by Summers
The own show is calling him a man. Why can't we treat him like one. Him becoming Superman is a misconception. Clark is Superman. The only difference is the tights and cape. They are one and the same. There is know becoming. There is only choosing what to do with your powers.


I love this part of your post. :)

[ClarkSupportsOrganic]

I disagree. I think Clark is becoming more superhero-like lately.

The first thing is that he's more aggressive and proactive than he was before. His confrontation with Lionel in Mercy showed a stronger Clark than we have seen before. He is also protecting and guiding would-be superheroes more than before. Even barging into Lionel and Lana's room and seeking Fine means he's finally taking a more proactive role than last season. He's trying to stop the danger before it happens. I think Clark is more superman-ish this season.

[mallory]

I think you are point up a fundamental problem the writers/creators have with Superman.

If Clark really had those powers, he could never be stopped. He could easily make sure kryptonite never hurts him. No human or human directed weapon could ever touch him.

But then where is the tension? The writers are forced to create absurd scenarios. Otherwise, Clark flashes around near the speed of light, and a second or two later, problem solved, criminal caught.

[SmallvilleMan]

I agree, with everything except the reckoning example. There's no superhero or any person on earth who would let someone they love die and do nothing about it, despite the feared consequences.

[angelfire east]

Originally posted by mallory
I think you are point up a fundamental problem the writers/creators have with Superman.

If Clark really had those powers, he could never be stopped. He could easily make sure kryptonite never hurts him. No human or human directed weapon could ever touch him.

But then where is the tension? The writers are forced to create absurd scenarios. Otherwise, Clark flashes around near the speed of light, and a second or two later, problem solved, criminal caught.

It doesn't have to be that way, they just don't have to make Clark such a moron when it comes to his powers and fghting villians. Plus we already have so many people using k-rock on him in absured scenariors.

[Kreukie]

I agree 110% with you.

This is why Superman Returns will win Superman fans while Smallville will be a passing thought after this summer.

[IVODARK]

Originally posted by Kreukie
I agree 110% with you.

This is why Superman Returns will win Superman fans while Smallville will be a passing thought after this summer.

Yeah, unless the they mess it up with the kid thing in SR.

[puddinpiester]

Well now, where are the role models for wisdom on this show? Which character is actually smart enough to be a role model for Clark in terms of intelligence? Lex? Nope, he thinks he's smart, but even though he's been hit in the face with Clark's "differences", he still hasn't figured it out. Now Brainiac is probably gonna have to toss him some clues. Lana? Oh paleese don't make me address this one. Chloe? She's too busy being super hacker, super translator, super reporter, superwhatever. Lois? She's too busy trying to find the open keg. Jonathan? He was too busy teaching Clark to hide his stuff. Martha? She's too busy making pies. Lionel? Well there is a possibility except that until recently, Clark had very little to do with him and wasn't around him much. He's surrounded by clueless friends and parents, encounters still dumber adversaries and villians, and they rarely attended class when they were in high school. Clark can't help it.

JK

[Watching Smallville]

If he keeps tossing around fragile stately gentelmen like Lionel, then he's far from Supes for me! :rolleyes:

I think Jonathan was the soul of Superman on the show.