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jimmyolsenblues

04-27-2006, 07:43 PM

Clark is hiding his jealous behind "I am just trying to protect Lana from Lex". I don't like to see Clark hurt like this. I wish they did the party scene different, instead of a prostitute, have a nice girl who is interested in Clark. I find it hard to beleive that Clark cannot find someone who is not kissing Lex in the past 24 hours. I am not pushing or pulling for Chloe. I am just saying I don't like to see clark alone. I know hey its superman , and he is alone for a lot of his life. Orphaned alien with a dead adopted father, but can't the guy get a little happiness once in awhile. Seems everytime he gets close to someone his heart is smashed. Enough with the Lana heartbreak, there are over 2 billion women on the planet, its time for Clark to date one other then Lana.

angelfire east

04-27-2006, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by jimmyolsenblues
Clark is hiding his jealous behind "I am just trying to protect Lana from Lex"

Enough with the Lana heartbreak, there are over 2 billion women on the planet, its time for Clark to date one other then Lana.

I agree about both. It's time to move on!

alienkinfolk

04-27-2006, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by redraven
Clark looks like he's about to cry from the thought of Lana making out w/ Lex.

they just broke up! its his ole best friend giving his sweetheart the lovin he can't deliver anymore...well
its a double stab wound..hell yeah i'd cry
thank goodness clark has control of that heat vision

lanakk1

04-27-2006, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by scoff
Doesn't it seem like Clark wants Lana back after he just broke up with her

yea it does cuz he never stop liking her when he broke up with her. and now she with another man let alone Lex, jealousy kicks in

xrayvision

04-27-2006, 10:14 PM

I definitely think he's jealous, but at the same time he does not want to get together with her deep down. I think he would be OK if it were anyone other than Lex (good guy that is).

sari_chem

04-27-2006, 10:27 PM

He still cares for her. Of course at least a part of him will be jealous.

A few months ago, I found out that my ex got engaged. I don't have feelings for him anymore, but it did affect me a little. It's human nature (I know, Clark isn't human, but he was raised by humans, and thus has our emotions).

vikingjedi

04-28-2006, 01:06 AM

Clark never wanted to break up with Lana. He felt he had no choice because telling her the truth would get her killed. Like he said, he just wants her to be happy. But no way was he expecting Lana to end up with Lex. This changes EVERYTHING.

All about Clark

04-28-2006, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by scoff
Doesn't it seem like Clark wants Lana back after he just broke up with her

I didn't see that. I saw that he cares about her and wants to protect her. He doesn't want her back. She was too much of a headache with the secret and lies crap. Couldn't just love him for who he is.

puddinpiester

04-28-2006, 01:58 PM

jimmyolsenblues. I totally agree with you. It's like Clark tried to do the right thing with Lana. It was never a question of whether he loved her or not. He got it into his head that his relationship with her threaten her safety. Now, it seems many are gloating that Clark now must lie in the bed he made. Let's cut the guy some slack. He deserves to be happy. Lana seems to be doing OK...for now.

Kreukie

04-28-2006, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by All about Clark
I didn't see that. I saw that he cares about her and wants to protect her. He doesn't want her back. She was too much of a headache with the secret and lies crap. Couldn't just love him for who he is.

She did love him for who he is, if she didn't she wouldn't had gotten back together with him after the season three ordeal and the first break-up.

BadToad

04-28-2006, 02:17 PM

I don't think he wants her back. Or, I would say I don't think he's going back on his decision, but of course a part of him still feels a heart tug when it comes to Lana. But I felt Clark seem pretty resolute in his decision, and go for Clark there.

Poweranimals

04-28-2006, 02:49 PM

One thing you have to realize is that the only reason why Clark broke up with Lana is because he didn't want to hurt her anymore by lying. But now she's with Lex so it kind of defeats the purpose of breaking up with her if she's just going to get hurt by Lex.

Watching Smallville

04-29-2006, 12:35 AM

He broke up with her because he felt he couldn't tell her his secret. Maybe he felt that way because deep down, as Martha said, he knows she's not "the one." I don't think he wants to go back to that relationship. But he doesn't want to see Lana get involved in Lex's treachery. He still cares about her.

alienkinfolk

04-29-2006, 12:39 AM

i agree w/ you watching smallville..deep down inside i think clark has had the feeling that lana ain't the one. and if that's so how long do you think he's known?

Watching Smallville

04-29-2006, 12:48 AM

I don't know -- even though I think he feels that way. That's a really good question.

alienkinfolk

04-29-2006, 12:54 AM

I think it hit him when he got shot and jor -el brought him back.

celita

04-29-2006, 10:05 AM

I don´t think so, i think Clark cares about Lana because Lex is dangeorus

mmvmartha

04-29-2006, 11:21 AM

I hate seeing him hurt too!! I would like to see him move on....
i know he is superman and suppose to be a lone for a while but some companion of love interest would be nice...

GreenRock

04-29-2006, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by All about Clark
I didn't see that. I saw that he cares about her and wants to protect her. He doesn't want her back. She was too much of a headache with the secret and lies crap. Couldn't just love him for who he is.

And what exactly is he? your average normal farm boy? In a love relationship, knowing (or trying to know) every thing about the other is part of the equation. It's not a part time job where you know something, and who the hell cares if he or she has a graveyard in his basement. A lover might even know what the other is thinking about and would be in sync without a word (Generally speaking, that can be true also for strong friendships.) Of course not all people have that, but you can't say she is to be damned because that is what she seeks.

Of course people do like to have their own personal space. In the case of Clark however, this secret is a major part of him (and who he is.)

clana20

04-29-2006, 02:26 PM

I didnt read all the posts in the thread, but as for the original question I would say yes he does want her back because he obviously still loves her. he was lying when he told her he didnt.

xrayvision

04-30-2006, 12:03 AM

Clark is obviously tired of having to hide who he really is to be able to do what he has to do (help people with his gifts) while trying to maintain a normal life. If you are Clark, every time someone questions you and makes you feel abnormal, it probably hurts like hell, when all you'd want is for the people you help to just be grateful for your kindness.

He couldn't blame Lana for the questions she had since he thought his powers were gone, and should have told her about himself regardless of powers/no powers. That was his mistake. But after all he's been through in S5, he doesn't have the energy to spend on such relationships anymore and hurt Lana.

We know he told Lana he didn't love her, and I agree that he did really love her, but had no way of continuing with her by telling her and having her live. He was backed into a corner. But I think he also let her go because as Martha said, deep down he knew she wasn't the one for him. She just wouldn't let him tell her the secret on his own terms and her actions (going to Lex repeatedly) have prevented him from filling her in 100% on his true identity.

And Lana's words before Clark flatlined in Hidden made it seem like Clark's heroics would have bothered her in the long term since she would also be worried if he would return alive. Once he becomes Superman, this weight will be lifted, but at that time he will be attracted to Lois since she will love the hero side of him, which is what he considers who he really is (in that episode when he said all he wants is to live his life without hiding who he really is, he was referring to what will be Superman).

So Clark is over Lana, but not over how she is throwing away the sacrifices that Clark & Jonathan Kent made for her to be alive today by being with Lex.

myankskent

04-30-2006, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by xrayvision
Clark is obviously tired of having to hide who he really is to be able to do what he has to do (help people with his gifts) while trying to maintain a normal life. If you are Clark, every time someone questions you and makes you feel abnormal, it probably hurts like hell, when all you'd want is for the people you help to just be grateful for your kindness.

He couldn't blame Lana for the questions she had since he thought his powers were gone, and should have told her about himself regardless of powers/no powers. That was his mistake. But after all he's been through in S5, he doesn't have the energy to spend on such relationships anymore and hurt Lana.

We know he told Lana he didn't love her, and I agree that he did really love her, but had no way of continuing with her by telling her and having her live. He was backed into a corner. But I think he also let her go because as Martha said, deep down he knew she wasn't the one for him. She just wouldn't let him tell her the secret on his own terms and her actions (going to Lex repeatedly) have prevented him from filling her in 100% on his true identity.

And Lana's words before Clark flatlined in Hidden made it seem like Clark's heroics would have bothered her in the long term since she would also be worried if he would return alive. Once he becomes Superman, this weight will be lifted, but at that time he will be attracted to Lois since she will love the hero side of him, which is what he considers who he really is (in that episode when he said all he wants is to live his life without hiding who he really is, he was referring to what will be Superman).

So Clark is over Lana, but not over how she is throwing away the sacrifices that Clark & Jonathan Kent made for her to be alive today by being with Lex.

I don't think that Clark is over Lana. He said that it felt like he couldn't breath when he saw lex and her kissing, if he was over her he wouldn't feel that way. And I do want to say this, for all of you who don't want anymore romantic Clana in this show, not saying that I disagree with you, but then we can certainly say that Lois is going to be sloppy seconds girl down the road when it relates to the events that happened in this show. Clark never fell out of love with Lana and it wasn't that they couldn't handle a relationship together with Lana knowing the secret, it's that it all came down to Clark lying to her. Clark is the one who messed things up by not making it right in Reckoning by telling her again. If Clark and Lana were together with Lana knowing the secret and they just came to a decision that it wasn't going to work out, then that's a different story. But Lois isn't Clark's destiny as it stands right now, Lois is Clark's second choice.

And Lana dying in Reckoning had nothing to do with Clark's secret, so you can't say that their relationship couldn't handle it because she died. She would've died the second time as well. Lana died because Lex was driving drunk.

xrayvision

04-30-2006, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by myankskent
I don't think that Clark is over Lana. He said that it felt like he couldn't breath when he saw lex and her kissing, if he was over her he wouldn't feel that way. And I do want to say this, for all of you who don't want anymore romantic Clana in this show, not saying that I disagree with you, but then we can certainly say that Lois is going to be sloppy seconds girl down the road when it relates to the events that happened in this show. Clark never fell out of love with Lana and it wasn't that they couldn't handle a relationship together with Lana knowing the secret, it's that it all came down to Clark lying to her. Clark is the one who messed things up by not making it right in Reckoning by telling her again. If Clark and Lana were together with Lana knowing the secret and they just came to a decision that it wasn't going to work out, then that's a different story. But Lois isn't Clark's destiny as it stands right now, Lois is Clark's second choice.

I'm still pretty sure that he is over her. I think he wouldn't be able to breathe if he also saw Lois (someone who he doesn't have feelings for) kissing Lex. The problem is that Lex is the guy. In S4 when she was with Jason, it didn't bother him that much and he never told her that she can't trust Jason as he did Lex, and he legitimately loved her back then.

And Clark hasn't been given a chance to fall out of love with Lana. I think by the end of Clana, he will be glad that he never married her knowing what her actions would be if she couldn't be with him. I know this from a personal experience where I tried hard to get a girl, failed desperately, and afterwards when taking off the blinders was very glad I didn't get involved with her. Clark has Lana blinders on now, and be certain that they will be gone soon. When those are gone, I doubt Lois will be sloppy seconds because TPTB will probably get her to offer something to Clark that Lana never could (whatever it may be), and this will be what makes him go for her.

Originally posted by myankskent
And Lana dying in Reckoning had nothing to do with Clark's secret, so you can't say that their relationship couldn't handle it because she died. She would've died the second time as well. Lana died because Lex was driving drunk.

Their relationship couldn't handle it because she couldn't stay away from Lex when she already had Clark. And the reason Lex swayed her into friendship after not trusting him in Mortal was due to their obsession on the ship. If she was able to let it go, then everything would have been fine. In a way, I don't blame her, since it affected her so much. But the invaders were taken care of, so she really shouldn't have worried anymore.

myankskent

04-30-2006, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by xrayvision
I'm still pretty sure that he is over her. I think he wouldn't be able to breathe if he also saw Lois (someone who he doesn't have feelings for) kissing Lex. The problem is that Lex is the guy. In S4 when she was with Jason, it didn't bother him that much and he never told her that she can't trust Jason as he did Lex, and he legitimately loved her back then.

And Clark hasn't been given a chance to fall out of love with Lana. I think by the end of Clana, he will be glad that he never married her knowing what her actions would be if she couldn't be with him. I know this from a personal experience where I tried hard to get a girl, failed desperately, and afterwards when taking off the blinders was very glad I didn't get involved with her. Clark has Lana blinders on now, and be certain that they will be gone soon. When those are gone, I doubt Lois will be sloppy seconds because TPTB will probably get her to offer something to Clark that Lana never could (whatever it may be), and this will be what makes him go for her.

Their relationship couldn't handle it because she couldn't stay away from Lex when she already had Clark. And the reason Lex swayed her into friendship after not trusting him in Mortal was due to their obsession on the ship. If she was able to let it go, then everything would have been fine. In a way, I don't blame her, since it affected her so much. But the invaders were taken care of, so she really shouldn't have worried anymore.

Well, in regards to Clana, we'll see how they play it out. If you ask me, there won't be any Clois on this show and how Clark falls in love with her will be the same type of question that we ask ourselves regarding how Lex will be unaware that Clark is superman.

As far as Lana going to see Lex, the interesting thing is that when Lana called Clark from the road, she said that she went to see Lex, and yet Clark never gave a reaction like he was bothered by it. If we are to assume that Clark told Lana everything about what a creep he was, especially after Lana learned the secret, Clark would've responded a different way when Lana called.

BadToad

04-30-2006, 12:51 AM

And I do want to say this, for all of you who don't want anymore romantic Clana in this show, not saying that I disagree with you, but then we can certainly say that Lois is going to be sloppy seconds girl down the road when it relates to the events that happened in this show. Clark never fell out of love with Lana and it wasn't that they couldn't handle a relationship together with Lana knowing the secret, it's that it all came down to Clark lying to her. Clark is the one who messed things up by not making it right in Reckoning by telling her again. If Clark and Lana were together with Lana knowing the secret and they just came to a decision that it wasn't going to work out, then that's a different story. But Lois isn't Clark's destiny as it stands right now, Lois is Clark's second choice.

Completely disagree. People don't stay suspened in time, with their emotions and feelings unable to progress and evolve. Yes, at this moment in time, Clark loves Lana, and may only be starting to see beyond that. But that doesn't mean that in a few months time, or even a few years, he won't look back at this and wonder what the heck he was thinking, and why he was so blind to all that didn't click for him and Lana. Perhaps he will be able to look back with maturity and clarity and realize that the reasons his gut instinct was to not tell Lana was because his mother was right, and she wasn't the right woman for him. That doesn't negate that he loved her, it only negates his teenage feelings that she was the only girl he'd ever love. People often have more then one love in their lives, and having a first love in no way, shape or form negates the loves that come after that. Lana will be his first love, Lois will be the right, mature love for him (assuming SV wants to come close to canon, and they have said they do).

Lana died because Lex was driving drunk.

Lana died because she had to run to Lex. Knowing the secret, not knowing the secret, either way, Lana felt compelled to run to Lex. Perhaps Lex is her true soulmate afterall.

In S4 when she was with Jason, it didn't bother him that much and he never told her that she can't trust Jason as he did Lex, and he legitimately loved her back then.

Yup, he completely respected her relationship with Jason, and even befriended Jason to some extent.

As far as Lana going to see Lex, the interesting thing is that when Lana called Clark from the road, she said that she went to see Lex, and yet Clark never gave a reaction like he was bothered by it. If we are to assume that Clark told Lana everything about what a creep he was, especially after Lana learned the secret, Clark would've responded a different way when Lana called.

He didn't give a reaction? When did he have time? As I recall, isn't one of the first things Lana says on that phone call "Clark, I'm so sorry...I went to see Lex"? And couldn't that just as easily be interpreted as her knowing that that he'd be upset by her doing that? But then the conversation quickly shifts to her telling him that Lex knows the secret, then that Lex was following her. Did you want Clark to take the time to scold Lana for going to see Lex?

myankskent

04-30-2006, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by BadToad

Lana died because she had to run to Lex. Knowing the secret, not knowing the secret, either way, Lana felt compelled to run to Lex. Perhaps Lex is her true soulmate afterall.

Completely disagree with this. More the other way around, Lana died because Lex felt the need to run to her.

He didn't give a reaction? When did he have time? As I recall, isn't one of the first things Lana says on that phone call "Clark, I'm so sorry...I went to see Lex"? And couldn't that just as easily be interpreted as her knowing that that he'd be upset by her doing that? But then the conversation quickly shifts to her telling him that Lex knows the secret, then that Lex was following her. Did you want Clark to take the time to scold Lana for going to see Lex?

Lana apologizing to Clark on the phone I took to mean that she really screwed things up with Lex to a point where he attacked her over knowing the truth about Clark. I think she also meant to apologize for allowing Lex to see the ring. She mentioned the ring on the phone to Clark I believe. Again, there are different ways of looking at various scenes. I guess you and I see things completely differently, BadToad.

BadToad

04-30-2006, 01:12 AM

Completely disagree with this. More the other way around, Lana died because Lex felt the need to run to her.

Lex came to the victory party at the Talon to chase Lana? I definitely think Lex called, Lana went, and thats where it all went bad.

I think she also meant to apologize for allowing Lex to see the ring. She mentioned the ring on the phone to Clark I believe.

No, she never mentions the ring. Though now that we mention it, pretty boneheaded move to leave your fiancee to run to the house of the guy thats at odds with him, who you know has romantic feelings for you, who you know is probably pretty pissed off about now about losing the senate race to your future father-in-law, and then decide to leave your new shiney engagement ring on.

xrayvision

04-30-2006, 01:13 AM

I always took the comparison between the 2 scenes with the bus accident (one where Lana dies, and the one where she lives) as either way, she is doomed if she is associated with Lex. Her running to Lex (an unstable man when he loses the ship, stones, election, etc.) caused him to run after her. In 1 scenario she died because Lex knew she knew Clark's secret and chased after her like a madman, and in the other she would have died without Clark's interference because Lex was again unstable but wanted to talk to her.

myankskent

04-30-2006, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by BadToad
Lex came to the victory party at the Talon to chase Lana? I definitely think Lex called, Lana went, and thats where it all went bad.

No, that's not what I said. I said that Lana died because Lex decided to chase after her after she left the mansion.

No, she never mentions the ring. Though now that we mention it, pretty boneheaded move to leave your fiancee to run to the house of the guy thats at odds with him, who you know has romantic feelings for you, who you know is probably pretty pissed off about now about losing the senate race to your future father-in-law, and then decide to leave your new shiney engagement ring on.

We've covered this, and it was a stupid move for Lana to go see Lex, as far as the engagement ring, come on, Lex was bound to find out about it at some point. I think this has more to do with Lex finally using his brain for a change and realizing that Lana knew about the secret. The alcohol certainly helped too.

Originally posted by xrayvision
I always took the comparison between the 2 scenes with the bus accident (one where Lana dies, and the one where she lives) as either way, she is doomed if she is associated with Lex. Her running to Lex (an unstable man when he loses the ship, stones, election, etc.) caused him to run after her. In 1 scenario she died because Lex knew she knew Clark's secret and chased after her like a madman, and in the other she would have died without Clark's interference because Lex was again unstable but wanted to talk to her.

Yup, I agree. Lana needed to realize that Lex was evil and she didn't. I do fault her, but I don't take the blame off of Clark because he has the information on Lex that would permanently stop Lana from seeing Lex. This information should definitely have been passed on to her in Reckoning, the aquaman disaster..etc. And I know, BadToad, you'll choose to believe that Clark did tell Lana offscreen during Reckoning about what Lex has done. I choose not to.

All about Clark

04-30-2006, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by myankskent
Completely disagree with this. More the other way around, Lana died because Lex felt the need to run to her.

No, Lana died because she went to Lex, if she hadn't, Lex wouldn't have figured out she knew.

Sometimes I think you are watching a different show.

Very good responses, BadToad, I seem to agree with everything you say.

Offworlder 1

04-30-2006, 01:31 AM

Clark needs to see that there are better women then Lana in his life. If not Chloe or Lois then bring in Lori the mermaid. Lori is another doomed relationship but it ends way better and they are stil close in the end. Lori could be for atleast a season since the need someone to replace Mr. Kent (may he rest in peace , great man he that he was) in the credits. Clark needs someone to catch his eye and help him move up and on in life.

myankskent

04-30-2006, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by All about Clark
No, Lana died because she went to Lex, if she hadn't, Lex wouldn't have figured out she knew.

Sometimes I think you are watching a different show.

Very good responses, BadToad, I seem to agree with everything you say.

As I said above, Lana died because Lex decided to chase after her. Unless people have a habit of dying in car accidents by Lex when they go to see him, I'd say that Lana didn't know that she was going to die by going over there.

The problem is, All about Clark, not everyone sees things as you do in regards to this show, or as I do. A lot of the problems with these disagreements occur in things that we really don't see on the show itself, so we are left wondering whether something happened offscreen or not. It's interpretive, and if someone favors a particular character, they will stand up for that character.

xrayvision

04-30-2006, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by myankskent
Yup, I agree. Lana needed to realize that Lex was evil and she didn't. I do fault her, but I don't take the blame off of Clark because he has the information on Lex that would permanently stop Lana from seeing Lex. This information should definitely have been passed on to her in Reckoning, the aquaman disaster..etc. And I know, BadToad, you'll choose to believe that Clark did tell Lana offscreen during Reckoning about what Lex has done. I choose not to.

I think it was too late for the info to have been passed once Lex showed Lana the ship. After that, Lex would react violently to her running off and would get very suspicious. Knowing him, he would think she would have just been using him to find out where the ship is and tell Clark, which would lead up to him taking care of her like all other women who wronged him, if not worse. But before the ship was shown to her (Splinter), Clark telling her would have been a good idea.

myankskent

04-30-2006, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by xrayvision
I think it was too late for the info to have been passed once Lex showed Lana the ship. After that, Lex would react violently to her running off and would get very suspicious. Knowing him, he would think she would have just been using him to find out where the ship is and tell Clark, which would lead up to him taking care of her like all other women who wronged him, if not worse. But before the ship was shown to her (Splinter), Clark telling her would have been a good idea.

But then again, there's still the matter of determining exactly what Lana does know on her own in the first place. That's where the arguments start because there isn't concrete evidence either way to help someone make their point. Chalk it up to bad writing.

Wildfire

04-30-2006, 01:45 AM

I say we shelf this subject till we see how the Zod mess plays out. Becaue that will make or break any furture get together for Clark and Lana.

myankskent

04-30-2006, 01:47 AM

That's a good idea

xrayvision

04-30-2006, 01:53 AM

Well, she definitely knew about the ship, but not that Lex had it stored in a warehouse. I just think that if she cut Lex out of her life before Lex trusted her with the ship, she could have likely made a clean break without too many repercussions. But after he showed her the ship, it's a totally different story. We saw how he accused Lionel of taking the ship and how mad he was when it disappeared in Solitude. Who knows what he would have done with Lana. He would likely have put her in the same league as Chloe (someone helping Clark by taking all these things like the stones away from him). It would be bitter backstabbing to him for her to do that to him after being more honest with her than he was with anyone else.

Originally posted by Wildfire
I say we shelf this subject till we see how the Zod mess plays out. Becaue that will make or break any furture get together for Clark and Lana.

I can pretty much guarantee that the only Clana future will be a just-friends relationship. I can't ever understand them getting back together after all this. I think the Lexana ending will be the final chapter of Clana.

All about Clark

04-30-2006, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by myankskent
As I said above, Lana died because Lex decided to chase after her. Unless people have a habit of dying in car accidents by Lex when they go to see him, I'd say that Lana didn't know that she was going to die by going over there.

The problem is, All about Clark, not everyone sees things as you do in regards to this show, or as I do. A lot of the problems with these disagreements occur in things that we really don't see on the show itself, so we are left wondering whether something happened offscreen or not. It's interpretive, and if someone favors a particular character, they will stand up for that character.

OK, Lana died because Lex chased after her, why, because they spoke, why did they speak, because she visited him, because she made that choice. Lex didn't, he busy with his booze. It is all on Lana's choice.

Alot of us like to discuss this show based on actual events shown to us, and we use that for our arguments. It appears you have your own mental show going on in between eps.

myankskent

04-30-2006, 02:00 AM

Originally posted by All about Clark
OK, Lana died because Lex chased after her, why, because they spoke, why did they speak, because she visited him, because she made that choice. Lex didn't, he busy with his booze. It is all on Lana's choice.

Alot of us like to discuss this show based on actual events shown to us, and we use that for our arguments. It appears you have your own mental show going on in between eps.

Alright, you're right that it was Lana's choice to go see Lex, but it was Lex's choice to get behind the wheel and drive drunk after Lana. I'll give you the fact that she should never have go.ne to see Lex, but her dying is not her fault, it was Lex's. I mean it's like if you got shot at a grocery store, was it your fault that you got shot because you went to the store or is it the shooter's fault for shooting you?

Wildfire

04-30-2006, 02:08 AM

Originally posted by myankskent
Alright, you're right that it was Lana's choice to go see Lex, but it was Lex's choice to get behind the wheel and drive drunk after Lana. I'll give you the fact that she should never have go.ne to see Lex, but her dying is not her fault, it was Lex's. I mean it's like if you got shot at a grocery store, was it your fault that you got shot because you went to the store or is it the shooter's fault for shooting you?

Ok on coppableity on Lana death its about 20% Lana and 80 Lex

However the thing about Lana going to Lex's is this: She has just gotten everything shes wanted, she knows the truth he propses and she accpects. Ok on the night she accpets they are at an event for her furture father in law as pretty much Clarks fiance. So why does she leave Clark at a time she as a new memeber of the family should really be there and not only disrecpt Clark as her fiance' but putting herself in danger by running to Lex. This is what I dont understand. Why not konwing he is drunk wait till the next day and go over there with Clark?

myankskent

04-30-2006, 02:13 AM

Originally posted by Wildfire
Ok on coppableity on Lana death its about 20% Lana and 80 Lex

However the thing about Lana going to Lex's is this: She has just gotten everything shes wanted, she knows the truth he propses and she accpects. Ok on the night she accpets they are at an event for her furture father in law as pretty much Clarks fiance. So why does she leave Clark at a time she as a new memeber of the family should really be there and not only disrecpt Clark as her fiance' but putting herself in danger by running to Lex. This is what I dont understand. Why not konwing he is drunk wait till the next day and go over there with Clark?

It was Lana's mistake, no doubt about it. The only thing that I can say is that Lana is in a different place with Lex than Clark is. Lana was always friends with both Clark and Lex and she still feels the need to be a good friend to Lex after all that he has done for her. I mean look at Clark, he found out that Lex was investigating him back in season 1 and he continued his friendship with him. He found on that Lex had a room devoted to him in season 3, yet he patched things up with him in season 4. Those are all strange things. If someone was investigating me, and twice, I would drop them as a friend very quickly but it's different when you actually are friends with that person and there are strong feelings involved.

All about Clark

04-30-2006, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by myankskent
Alright, you're right that it was Lana's choice to go see Lex, but it was Lex's choice to get behind the wheel and drive drunk after Lana. I'll give you the fact that she should never have go.ne to see Lex, but her dying is not her fault, it was Lex's. I mean it's like if you got shot at a grocery store, was it your fault that you got shot because you went to the store or is it the shooter's fault for shooting you?

Yes, Lana's choice got her killed and Lex is responsible for the event. We finally found common ground.

But as I've said, it's Lana's bad choices that makes her not the one to handle the secret at this point in her life. It makes her not the one for Clark. Maybe after Lexana she will wake up.

Goodnight.

myankskent

04-30-2006, 02:22 AM

Originally posted by All about Clark
Yes, Lana's choice got her killed and Lex is responsible for the event. We finally found common ground.

But as I've said, it's Lana's bad choices that makes her not the one to handle the secret at this point in her life. It makes her not the one for Clark. Maybe after Lexana she will wake up.

Goodnight.

This I can't disagree with. Let's just appreciate the fact that we agree on something, because it probably won't happen again.:lol:

Wildfire

04-30-2006, 02:26 AM

See if it had been me and find out Lex has been invigating me as a southerner I think I would have to get my trusty 30 aught 6. Becasue that is just creey having a room decidcated to him is and the invesigating of him is borderline pyschosis wait this is Lex Luthor he IS a psycho,

And granted she does not know what they know but she does know he has lied and did things that hurt her ie Jason loosing his job and letting Clark take the blame for a small time. I dont know like I said we should get a better idea after the season fianle with Zod. If she stands by her man then Lana really does need to go back to the PZ with Zod becasue then they will have ruined a totally good charcter for Lack of imagination.

myankskent

04-30-2006, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by Wildfire
See if it had been me and find out Lex has been invigating me as a southerner I think I would have to get my trusty 30 aught 6. Becasue that is just creey having a room decidcated to him is and the invesigating of him is borderline pyschosis wait this is Lex Luthor he IS a psycho,

And granted she does not know what they know but she does know he has lied and did things that hurt her ie Jason loosing his job and letting Clark take the blame for a small time. I dont know like I said we should get a better idea after the season fianle with Zod. If she stands by her man then Lana really does need to go back to the PZ with Zod becasue then they will have ruined a totally good charcter for Lack of imagination.

I agree, Lana's character is a mess. I just want to see some progression in this show, rather than killing time with a stupid lexana storyline. End Clana, end lexana, and let me see more Clark/JorEl scenes. That's what I want. I'm out, just realized it's 3:30, have a good night.

watcher4

04-30-2006, 02:34 AM

IMHO, Clark is being shown right now as some kind of love-sick puppy pining over the woman that he can't have.

Wildfire

04-30-2006, 02:46 AM

Originally posted by myankskent
I agree, Lana's character is a mess. I just want to see some progression in this show, rather than killing time with a stupid lexana storyline. End Clana, end lexana, and let me see more Clark/JorEl scenes. That's what I want. I'm out, just realized it's 3:30, have a good night.

I guess my point abut getting rid of her is this if they do this and mess her up, then I dont see how they can write her would wit thir lack of imagination. I mean honestly if she does this what do oyu see the writers doing?

1 Frist Clark will shut down her completly especailly if someone gets hurt.

2 Shell be seen by the tohers as untrustworthy

3 I dont think they would let her live it down enough to build herself back up by the end the show.

I dont know I would rather see her leave with some diganity to Lanas character than Lana just going on a downward spiarl sinking deeper and deeper. Lana deserves better than that.

smallvillerocks45

04-30-2006, 03:57 AM

I'm not sure if he wants her back, I mean he never really wanted her gone in the first place. He just decided that it was something that had to be. I think that Lana now thinks Clark wants her back (but he really doesn't).

In other words, I think Clark wants her (like he always has), but not "back" for a relationship (just from a distance and way from Lex).

(I apologize if that made absolutely no sense at all...)

xrayvision

04-30-2006, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by Wildfire
See if it had been me and find out Lex has been invigating me as a southerner I think I would have to get my trusty 30 aught 6. Becasue that is just creey having a room decidcated to him is and the invesigating of him is borderline pyschosis wait this is Lex Luthor he IS a psycho,

And granted she does not know what they know but she does know he has lied and did things that hurt her ie Jason loosing his job and letting Clark take the blame for a small time. I dont know like I said we should get a better idea after the season fianle with Zod. If she stands by her man then Lana really does need to go back to the PZ with Zod becasue then they will have ruined a totally good charcter for Lack of imagination.

I want that room to be shown again before Lexana is over. It would make things very interesting and show Lana what Lex is all about (and finally show her why Clark never told her). I never believed that Lex destroyed the items in that room.

BadToad

04-30-2006, 09:45 AM

IMHO, Clark is being shown right now as some kind of love-sick puppy pining over the woman that he can't have.

Actually, I've been pleasantly suprised how little pining there's been. I thought it would be much worse, and its why I'm feeling a bit better about things. I figure I just need to get through the next 2 eps, and we might just turn a corner. In Void, he stayed busy with Fine for the most part. In Fragile, he was busy with the little girl. In Mercy, he stayed busy with Mom and Lionel. And In Fade, he handled things far better then I thought he would.

So far, this very small smattering of pining I'm OK with, and its really understandable under the circumstances.

myankskent

04-30-2006, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by Wildfire
I guess my point abut getting rid of her is this if they do this and mess her up, then I dont see how they can write her would wit thir lack of imagination. I mean honestly if she does this what do oyu see the writers doing?

1 Frist Clark will shut down her completly especailly if someone gets hurt.

2 Shell be seen by the tohers as untrustworthy

3 I dont think they would let her live it down enough to build herself back up by the end the show.

I dont know I would rather see her leave with some diganity to Lanas character than Lana just going on a downward spiarl sinking deeper and deeper. Lana deserves better than that.

Oh I agree. I think Lana's character will get better eventually. If she never learns the secret, then she will continually get worse and you're right, I'd rather see her gone if that happens.

Offworlder 1

04-30-2006, 11:23 AM

Lana should never learn Clark's secret until the last episode or 2nd to last and as hes leaving so it shows how she really screwed up. Its a great way of giving her what she wants and the irony that she could have had everything but since she has to "know everything" she will be nothing more to Clark then a friend at best for the BS she put him through.

As for Lana to redeem herself she needs to not have a BF for atleast 1 season and work on something she wants to do away from Lex and Clark to come into her own. She needs independance and major growth, she had ambition S1-3 to save the theater and made it the talon now she needs to start something else to get her a career for when shes finished college.

All about Clark

04-30-2006, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by smallvillerocks45
I'm not sure if he wants her back, I mean he never really wanted her gone in the first place. He just decided that it was something that had to be. I think that Lana now thinks Clark wants her back (but he really doesn't).

In other words, I think Clark wants her (like he always has), but not "back" for a relationship (just from a distance and way from Lex).

I agree with this to a point. Your comment "just from a distance", I'm not even sure that holds water anymore. The putting away the telescope was a sign that even from a distance it doesn't work.

xrayvision

04-30-2006, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by Offworlder 1
Lana should never learn Clark's secret until the last episode or 2nd to last and as hes leaving so it shows how she really screwed up. Its a great way of giving her what she wants and the irony that she could have had everything but since she has to "know everything" she will be nothing more to Clark then a friend at best for the BS she put him through.

As for Lana to redeem herself she needs to not have a BF for atleast 1 season and work on something she wants to do away from Lex and Clark to come into her own. She needs independance and major growth, she had ambition S1-3 to save the theater and made it the talon now she needs to start something else to get her a career for when shes finished college.

I like this idea, but don't think they should wait that long. They should let her find out, but I say in the S6 opener. I made 2 posts on this:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2076110#post2076110

http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2077332#post2077332

Lana, IMHO should in the S6 opener learn the secret and have that be her consolation prize, and that's it, nothing more. Like you said, with patience, she would have had everything (secret included in due time), but since she had none, this will be the most she gets out of Clark. I think one way to redeem her is by showing the same angst that Chloe had all those years on her face this time on Lana's face from the time she finds out through the series finale.

All about Clark

04-30-2006, 08:02 PM

I think Lana will learn the secret either S5 finale or S6 opener. I think she'll see him in action, not that he tells her. I would love it if that's the last thing we see as a cliffhanger.

But Clana is dead whether she learns the secret or not. But I'd like to see her understand Clark's choices.

I'd also like to see Chlark just so she can see what her choices had her miss out on.

xrayvision

04-30-2006, 09:13 PM

I would rather see Chlois than Chlark. That way, the 'ships can be toned down, and justice is finally served for Chloe. Plus, that way, they don't have to think of a ridiculous storyline that would get Lois interested in becoming a reporter at this stage in her life. That's just unrealistic.

GooN

04-30-2006, 09:23 PM

clark has always loved her, can't blame him, so yeah he will want her back its natural.....but the thing is, i can see how she's urine'd off at him cos when he said that she can't trust lex. As much as i complained about the Lana character being annoying and everything in my last post (i forgot to mention repetetive) but clark does the same damn...excrement.
I mean cmon, read a book or summin, find out different ways to word things, he wrote for that torch didn't he?

sorry my use of words in these recent posts, im trying to cut down on the swearing.

xrayvision

04-30-2006, 09:35 PM

He should pick up & read "How to have fun with your Kryptonian powers for Dummies". Seriously, with powers like that, I would be cruisin' all over the country and having fun. Now that his father's not around, he has to pick up the slack, but I think he still has more than enough time to have fun and chill.

myankskent

04-30-2006, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by xrayvision
He should pick up & read "How to have fun with your Kryptonian powers for Dummies". Seriously, with powers like that, I would be cruisin' all over the country and having fun. Now that his father's not around, he has to pick up the slack, but I think he still has more than enough time to have fun and chill.

Like with what he did with Mr. Bart Allen. They ran down to Miami to pick up girls.:lol:

Alicia Baker

05-01-2006, 04:21 AM

Originally posted by scoff
Doesn't it seem like Clark wants Lana back after he just broke up with her

Agree. Lana is so selfish. She thinks the world is all about her.

GooN

05-01-2006, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by Alicia Baker
Agree. Lana is so selfish. She thinks the world is all about her.

well she has a billionaire baldy boy in love with her, along with the most powerful farm-boy in the world....so she ranks up there i reckon...

watcher4

05-01-2006, 07:59 PM

How "lucky" can one girl be?:rolleyes:

puddinpiester

05-02-2006, 08:47 AM

I'm not sure Clark wants Lana back. Yes, he still loves her. Yes, he does not want her with Lex, and who could blame him. Yes, he misses her. Yes, he worries about her. He has invested several years of his life loving her and that's not something you can just turn off. I think he feels breaking up with Lana was the right thing to do. He just wants everything to turn out good for her and he doesn't believe it will as long as she is with Lex. What a shocker! I happen to agree with him.

I think he will miss having her so intimately in his life, but he thinks when all is said and done, things will be better for her. He realizes that she is inquisitive and he is just not ready to reveal his secret to her. He doesn't think she is ready for it. He knows he certainly is not ready for it. Period.