Why not reverse time in Hidden?

[Elite]

Sorry if its been mentioned, but why didnt Jor-El reverse time in Hidden when Clark died?
That way, Clark wouldnt have died so need to restore balance with a sacrifice.

[Kal El, Hero]

I'd assume that would be because Jor-El never seems to think much of a "mere human life". And it seems as if some great tragedy is just around the corner, for which after it happens he can go "Well my son, I did kinda tell you not to use the crystal" and then Clark will feel incredibly guilt ridden and devote the rest of his life to being noble and that darn nice guy we all know and love. . . . .maybe not though.

[kal-odell]

Because, if they would have had the crystal then, the writers would not have been able to do the one thing that actually brings continuity to the show. That being handing out superpowers like like candy at halloween.

[Magnus1105]

Actually the crystal should have been used back in the 1st episode Arrival. We all know Jor-el is selfish and his main goal is to have Clark with his powers so why did he not turn back time instead of taking Clarks powers away.

If they had turned back time there, then Clark could have changed things so he could stop the other kryptonians and get back to finish his training with Jor-el or Clark could have gone striaght to Jor-el in the morning(when he woke up in commencment). Then we would have avoided Clark dying, Chloe ever knowing because Clark would have gone to the caves hours earlier and no-one would have to be sacrificed because Clark would never be Mortal.

[SOnMyChest]

Originally posted by Magnus1105
Actually the crystal should have been used back in the 1st episode Arrival. We all know Jor-el is selfish and his main goal is to have Clark with his powers so why did he not turn back time instead of taking Clarks powers away.

If they had turned back time there, then Clark could have changed things so he could stop the other kryptonians and get back to finish his training with Jor-el or Clark could have gone striaght to Jor-el in the morning(when he woke up in commencment). Then we would have avoided Clark dying, Chloe ever knowing because Clark would have gone to the caves hours earlier and no-one would have to be sacrificed because Clark would never be Mortal.

ok dont start yelling Blasphemy!!!!

but why does this whole concept bewilder people. any catholic person should not be arguing this point. The catholic religion has a God who sent us his only son to save the world.(sidenote: wow already its falling into place). Now it is believed we were given the ability of FREE WILL. This means God is warning us of rights and wrong. but ultimately it is up to us to make the choices.

Its the same thing with Jor-El and Clark.

[jwoodie]

I have a different theory on this. I think, in a sense, Jor-El DID use a crystal on Clark in Hidden. I don't think he actually "used a crystal" on him, but what do those crystals represent? The sum total of Kryptonian knowledge that Clark must learn and master in order to fulfill his destiny. Jor-El even presented him the crystal as a "lesson" to be learned.

I believe that the crystal represents a Kryptonian power, we'll call it the mystic reset button, that is a power that Jor-El wields simply because he is Kryptonian. But he doesn't use this power blindly because he knows that to do so upsets the balance of nature. He tells Clark as much in the FOS.

So, my theory is that it was this very power that Jor-El used on Clark in Hidden - the same exact phenomenon that Clark used to reverse Lana's death. When it happened in Hidden, Jor-El did this will the full knowledge that it would create an imbalance in nature, and this would result in the death of someone close to Clark. Notice in that conversation how vague he was. I believe he was vague because he genuinely didn't know who/how someone would die, he only knew that by bringing Clark back, someone would, indeed, have to pay that price. But Jor-El does this because Clark's "eminent destiny is too important to be sacrificed". So, the ends justify the means for Jor-El, and that's hard to argue with, given Clark's future.

But the point is, and the theory goes, that the act of using this power creates an imbalance in nature. Jor-El was forced to use this power on Clark because of Clark's untimely death, thus creating the imbalance that led to Lana's death later. As a lesson to Clark, the crystal in Reckoning represents this Kryptonian power, and Clark seized on this to reverse Lana's death, but did so without the wisdom that Jor-El possesses, and was unable to see the unintended consequences that would ensue.

Bottom line, Jor-El DID use a magic crystal (or at least the innate Kryptonian power that the crystal represents to Clark) on Clark in Hidden, he just doesn't need any physical manifestation (ie. the crystal itself) of such a power. The imbalance that using this power has in nature played out just as Jor-El described in both episodes.

[All about Clark]

I'm going with a different theory. For one, we know Clark's blood can resurrect. So giving Clark back his Kryptonian blood may have been enough to get Clark back to living in Hidden.

All the crystals are for Clark's learning. And it appears Jor-el will bring Clark there to use them one-by-one if necessary to teach his son what he needs to learn. And by dying he could create a lesson to be learned.

I would be more inclined that Jor-el used a crystal to turn Clark's blood from Kryptonian to Human and back to create the death.

[Magnus1105]

Originally posted by SOnMyChest
ok dont start yelling Blasphemy!!!!

but why does this whole concept bewilder people. any catholic person should not be arguing this point. The catholic religion has a God who sent us his only son to save the world.(sidenote: wow already its falling into place). Now it is believed we were given the ability of FREE WILL. This means God is warning us of rights and wrong. but ultimately it is up to us to make the choices.

Its the same thing with Jor-El and Clark. WTF are you talking about? This is the stupidest post I have ever seen on this forum. Relating the story of Christ to Superman is the stupidest thing I have yet to see. I can tear straight through the beliefs of the Catholic church so easy it would be pathetic but, this forum is not for a religious debate.

Jor-el has already clearly stated he places very little value on human life and that the only thing that matters to him is the destiny of his son and he wants it no matter what the cost. Do you even know what blashpemy means? It was idiotic to even bring that into this topic.

giving Clark the Cystal back then would have prevented the loss of Clarks powers and the death of a loved one to save his life.

Using the crystal was just stupid by the writers and a cop-out. They were to dumb to come up with a better way to handle things and did not put alot of thought into this episode or the storyline.

Leave the religious comparisons for another forum. This is about Smallville not you own agenda.

[kal-odell]

Originally posted by SOnMyChest
ok dont start yelling Blasphemy!!!!

but why does this whole concept bewilder people. any catholic person should not be arguing this point. The catholic religion has a God who sent us his only son to save the world.(sidenote: wow already its falling into place). Now it is believed we were given the ability of FREE WILL. This means God is warning us of rights and wrong. but ultimately it is up to us to make the choices.

Its the same thing with Jor-El and Clark. I think you mean the Christian religion. The Catholic religion is just a popular sect of the acutual Christian religion. But as this is mentioned earlier, these are not topics to be discussed on Kryptonsite. (p.s. if you wanna no why, just go read the entire evolution VS. creation thread...)

However, yes you are correct in saying that there are many parallels between the story of Christ and the truly fictional story of Superman.

The reason the whole concept bewilders people, is the fact that it makes no sense other than writing the situation like so in order to kill off JK. Clearly there have been other instances this season alone, where Jor-El could have or should have used that crystal before. So the author of this thread asked the question why...

Originally posted by Magnus1105
WTF are you talking about? This is the stupidest post I have ever seen on this forum. Relating the story of Christ to Superman is the stupidest thing I have yet to see.Just because you don't share this opinion doesn't make it stupid, please keep those type thoughts to yourself.

I can tear straight through the beliefs of the Catholic church so easy it would be pathetic but, this forum is not for a religious debate. speaking of people with personal agendas...

Jor-el has already clearly stated he places very little value on human life and that the only thing that matters to him is the destiny of his son and he wants it no matter what the cost. Really have you even seen "Relic" yet....?

[RedQ]

Need for it. and the rest is Needed to complete his Training and it's Clark's process to become what Jor-El wants or Superman.