View Full Version : Why Can't Lana Just Know Clark's Secret?
Philster
01-29-2006, 08:03 AM
Well I've just watched the 100th episode and I have mixed feelings about it. The episode started off great but then was spoilt by the let's go back in time thing. I wish Lana would learn Clark's secret. I know she doesn't in the comics but how many times has the series changed the Superman legacy? Black kryptonite, Lois meeting Clark before his Planet days, etc. They could have easily made Lana forget at the end of the series like in Clark did with Lois in Superman 2. I think it would be a great partnership to have Cloie, Lana and Clark doing the let's investigate our mystery thing for this episode because they all know Clark's secret. Surely, Clark should tell Lana now that he shold realise his telling her may not have meant her death.
There's been a few bum episodes recently. What are the writers thinking? For a 100th episode, it was nothing special apart from PA Kent dying. Why do most series that reach the 100th episode mark try and do something exciting and spoil it. Look at Stargate SG-1, excellent series but the 100th episode sucked. Pa Kent should not have died until the very last episode.
Let's hope things get better.
AshyLarry
01-29-2006, 04:58 PM
Umm, Lana does know about Clark's powers in the comic books.
muffinpeddler
01-29-2006, 05:07 PM
Yeah, he tells her just before he leaves Smallville to travel the world, by picking her up and flying. As for an amnesia kiss...are you serious?! The amnesia kiss is the most ridiculous plot device ever created, a thousand times worse than the time reversal!
lyric96
01-29-2006, 05:11 PM
Lana is the second most important character in the show. So if Lana knows by now about Clark' secret and says "I do" to his proposal then the show is already done for the next episodes. Writters need to continue on this thrill or at least to postpone to the right showtime.
In DC comics Lana wasn't the second most important character so it wasn't a big deal she knew Clark's secret but it was for Lois.
Hopefulsuicide
01-29-2006, 05:13 PM
what a waste of a decent plot... although i am glad that it keeps chloe's role in the show important
Crichton
01-29-2006, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by lyric96
[B]Lana is the second most important character in the show. So if Lana knows by now about Clark' secret and says "I do" to his proposal then the show is already done for the next episodes. Writters need to continue on this thrill or at least to postpone to the right showtime.
I think they're seriously "done" with the thrill. It's really frustrating at this point. It was a huge relief in the Season 5 opener when Chloe and Clark finally came totally clean to each other.
Philster
01-29-2006, 06:06 PM
Sorry didn't realise Lana knew about Clark's powers. Was told duff information. Didn't read a lot of the Superman comics through not having the time.
Yep, the thrill has gone but I think Lana should find out soon without the proposal thing.
Maybe it is a daft idea the amenisa kiss but it doesn't happen a lot unlike the dreaded let's go back in time. Did like the Chloe line refering to the Superman movie, the spin the earth around on it's axis remake. Cool.
voytek
01-29-2006, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by lyric96
Lana is the second most important character in the show. So if Lana knows by now about Clark' secret and says "I do" to his proposal then the show is already done for the next episodes. Writters need to continue on this thrill or at least to postpone to the right showtime.
In DC comics Lana wasn't the second most important character so it wasn't a big deal she knew Clark's secret but it was for Lois.
I respectfully disagree with you. Lana knowing the secret would not end the series or hurt any episodes. This has been a five year build up and the writers copped out after just 30 minutes. It is their job to come up with more stuff and Lana knowing Clark's secret and struggling to come to grips with what it truly means would have been interesting to see. You can't buy that kinda angst. What has occured has caused a back slide to square one. He is back to lying to her and it really isn't fair. Clark's reasoning is he has to protect Lana because knowing the secret is too dangerous. That is a crock. What about Pete and Chloe? Are they just expendable?
clois1938
01-29-2006, 09:02 PM
Maybe she doesn't know because it's too easy to get the information out of her. Clark had that kind of defeated tone when he said "she knew less than a day", like he realized Lana can't keep a secret even though she tries.
smallville_fetish
01-29-2006, 09:10 PM
Why can't Lana know? I want her to, and I don't see a real reason why she doesn't, because Clark owes her that at least... but to answer that question alone without the Clana relationship oreal.. the answer is very simple.
Clark doesn't let Lana know because she's different from his parents, Chloe, and Pete. Why? Because she's his 'object of desire' and I'm sure everyone knows that, including the fictional bad guys who whanna get to Clark or destroy him.
snafu2dj
01-29-2006, 09:11 PM
:cool: Please do a search for my other posts and see my reasoning for these issues. :cool:
gneisskathy
01-29-2006, 09:20 PM
I don't think she can know because there has to be a reason for the relationship to not work so he will end up with Lois. Clark not being honest is a great reason and it opens up the Lex/Lana storyline for the writers. If she knew, then they would need another way to eventually end the relationship. What would they use? Death? Maybe they do not want to kill the character because they tend to follow the movies. I think that Lana knowing would just become...well boring. Chloe knowing is different because she is not the girlfriend and lets face it, right now her character is used for comic relief which makes it interesting. I would love to hear how people would like to see a relationship with Lana knowing the truth would eventually end. Maybe if you have a good enough idea the writers will listen...doubt it lol...but you never know.
JeremyT
01-29-2006, 09:33 PM
Lana is the 2nd most important character in the show?! Seemed to me Clark and Lex are first, making 2nd unavailable. The more and more I read these forums, and from my own feelings, I see how bad the writers are doing and simply are using Lana for eye candy to help with the ratings, because they sure aren't doing so well in writing.
QUASARKIL
01-30-2006, 04:19 AM
....Like others I was disappointed in episode 100. For one thing John Schneider didn't get a respectful enough death, I mean death and funeral in last 5 minutes? Come on. So as the topic says, I don't think Lana will ever find out now. That was their 1 chance, and if we all know these writers, they teased us and will never do it again. It was perfect how they did it, it won't be that great if she finds out, it'll be like a hand me down. I'm tired of the clana going back and fourth, it's all back at zero now. Does anybody think that there is even an ounce of hope that she will find out before the show is even over? I was actually looking forward to the next episodes after 100 because I "knew" she found it, that would have been great but noooooooooooo. Only way she'd ever find out is if the show was desperate.....give it a few weeks now... and she witnessed him using his powers...just let her find out and be done with it.
RedPhoenix23
01-30-2006, 04:29 AM
If AlMiles truely plan to make Lexana into a couple Lana can't know because Lex would smell it on her and get really really TICKED when she has to lie about it, because I don't see Lana ever betraying Clark like that. If Lexana either never happens, or breaks up before series end, then I could see Lana finding out.
Nerial
01-30-2006, 09:25 AM
I was thinking that too. I'm not a Clana fan, but when they did the time warp, I was like, "Oh, for crying out loud--now he'll never tell her, and he'll be justified in not telling her!"
I thought Lana finding out and the whole marriage thing was completely rushed, but even I felt bad for the Clana fans at the end.
She will eventually find out, however. I have no doubts. The question is, will any of the fans care by that point?
SVSpector
01-30-2006, 09:37 AM
The only way she will know now is when she sees him fly through Metropolis to make his first save as Superman. If that happens on this show.
Nerial
01-30-2006, 09:45 AM
Nah, I still think they'll show it on Smallville. Probably one of the last episodes.
johnny fogg
01-30-2006, 10:02 AM
Yeah, when it winds down or gets cancelled because then Warner Bros can't shut you down for disrupting the timeline or their movie, you won't lose your stupid viewers who are too dumb to tolerate even minimal references to past shows they haven't seen, you won't risk losing ratings by disrupting the tried and true Clana stalemate that's lasted four and a half years, and you'll be keeping with the terms or your agreement with your contract with the devil to obliterte the spirit of your project.
Oh...and you're free to the let the show go to hell in the hands of people who were booted of other WB shows while you work on your accursed Aquaman pilot.
Clana could have been facinating and moving. It's a cesspool. Why? So they don't rock the boat.
son2380
01-31-2006, 04:20 PM
In the comic book Lana know clark's secret and they broke up. Why do they need to keep lana Clueless so that they can have a reason to break up.
I am the Superman
01-31-2006, 04:23 PM
THe lana knowing clarks secret has no thrill any longer, that ended in season 3. I dont think the show would be over if she knew. I think it could have some interesting dialog, and this way there is no more freeking lieing.
BrodyBear
01-31-2006, 04:44 PM
Smallville has done the same mistake Lois & Clark did. Giving the fans what they want and taking it away straight after is going to do the show more harm than good. Clark knows if Lana knows his secret that she is happy with it and that he can trust her, he is using the fear factor of "if she knows she can get hurt".
If you all remember Lois & Clark, Lois found out which actually rewrote the DC comic way in that they let Lois find out in the comics too and I think they did great writing when Lois knew Clarks secret, the wedding crap is what killed it.
They need to let Lana know, not only for the fact if they don't I'm going to lose even more hair by pulling whats left out :|
If I have to sit and watch Clark pouting and Lana giving him the evil stare cause he lies for the rest of the season and beyond I'm going to be royally pissed off. Same with Lana and Lex getting together. That SHOULD NOT happen, not even briefly.
batfinx
01-31-2006, 05:59 PM
The problem with Lana is she serves no useful plot function beyond girlfriend even if she knows Clark's secret. It's why having Pete know the secret wasn't any better because he wasn't in the plots much and he had no function other than Clark's friend. But Chloe has always been in the plots as an investigator. She always served a plot function and because she did it made her the logical person to know Clark's secret to help the plots.
Lana could have known the secret if they hadn't ruined it in Reckoning. By making Lana totally understanding about the whole thing without reservations and deep soul searching, then it just seemed like a total sham. If Lana finds out again she'll have the same dull reaction she had in Reckoning so who cares? Gah even Chloe had a better reaction even though she's into Wall of Weird stuff.
Now there's no good reason for Lana to know. None at all because the one function she had as Clark's girlfriend could have at least led to a a bad reaction from Lana and a good reason for them never being together, but that's not what we got at all. Instead we get Lana who is all like 'OK you're an alien let's get married' crap. It was phony and real disappointing. What possible benefit could their be now of Lana knowing? None.
No-El
01-31-2006, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by Hopefulsuicide
what a waste of a decent plot... although i am glad that it keeps chloe's role in the show important
:)
UpandAtom
03-01-2006, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by son2380
In the comic book Lana know clark's secret and they broke up. Why do they need to keep lana Clueless so that they can have a reason to break up.
Lana didn't break up with Clark after she found out his secret. Clark and Lana were never an item in the comics. Lana liked Clark but Clark only considered her to be like a sister. It is unfair to compare Smallville to the comics because they are two completely different versions of the Superman mythology.
bry_g_m
04-07-2006, 02:18 AM
on my opinion, i think smallville won't be smallville if they don't make clark-lana relationship work.. i think people also follow the series because they want to know if they'll end up together, everybody wants a good ending right? the series started with clark wanting lana, and i guess the audience would like to see that till the end... i also think this the 100th episode of smallvile just made the clark-lana relationship back to square one and it might backfire against the series since the people will just see a roller coaster relationship and eventually they might get tired of it or it just spices everything up...
voytek
04-07-2006, 03:04 AM
Originally posted by bry_g_m
on my opinion, i think smallville won't be smallville if they don't make clark-lana relationship work.. i think people also follow the series because they want to know if they'll end up together, everybody wants a good ending right? the series started with clark wanting lana, and i guess the audience would like to see that till the end... i also think this the 100th episode of smallvile just made the clark-lana relationship back to square one and it might backfire against the series since the people will just see a roller coaster relationship and eventually they might get tired of it or it just spices everything up...
Yep. They are the main couple. People keep saying he doesn't end up with Lana and we all know that. But he isn't superman yet. You can't have the audience eat, sleep and breathe Clark/Lana and then wipe it all away. And I think Clark and Lana have the makings to be a great love story. It's clear the writers don't know which direction they want to go in. I agree the 100th episode brought everything crashing down. Put them together or break them up already. The back and forth is old and tired. Next week Clark is at his dad's grave saying how much he hurt Lana. Well this is what you wanted sport. Actions have consequences. Their relationship is giving me whiplash.
Philster
04-07-2006, 06:52 AM
Everyone says that they can't be together because of the Lois and Clark thing. Well Smallville has re-written Superman, how many times? Black Kryptonite was never in the comics so why can't we have Clark and Lana. I think the writers should now have it that Lana finds out Clark's secret by her seeing him use his powers. Then they could have it out and she tells him she understands why they can't be together but still remain good friends.
voytek
04-07-2006, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Philster
Everyone says that they can't be together because of the Lois and Clark thing. Well Smallville has re-written Superman, how many times? Black Kryptonite was never in the comics so why can't we have Clark and Lana. I think the writers should now have it that Lana finds out Clark's secret by her seeing him use his powers. Then they could have it out and she tells him she understands why they can't be together but still remain good friends.
That would work. And I so agree with you that have re-written so many things already. And I bet you anything if Lexana fail, they will be putting Clark and Lana back together. But I'll wait and see how much chemistry they have. I just hate the way they got together.
roman1967
04-07-2006, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Philster
Everyone says that they can't be together because of the Lois and Clark thing. Well Smallville has re-written Superman, how many times? Black Kryptonite was never in the comics so why can't we have Clark and Lana.
I thought Black K made an appearance in the comics in the Superman Red/Blue storyline. Didn't it have something to do with rejoining them?
sgt_spike
04-25-2006, 07:41 AM
I have been waiting for this to happen ever since her first boyfriend died off.
Lets remember that Jo'el said some"ONE" most die. JK died now Lana can know.
The writers seems to be out of their minds. The next show should have been clark telling lana.
Lana is one of the most secretive characters on the show. Lana can know and it can work. And why can Pete and Chloe know but not Lana.
I hated this show after clark went back and changed it. Even when he when back he could've saved both lois and lana, he'sa clark kent aka future superman.
very very very disappointed......
bongoboy
04-27-2006, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Nerial
She will eventually find out, however. I have no doubts. The question is, will any of the fans care by that point?
Good point. I have yet to see season 5, but from what I gather, Lana could handle it. With Chloe knowing we'd have a little Skooby doo gang. Why not? Clark is not yet Superman after all. When he has his full powers he wont need the gang so much for his crime fighting.
PaulNeb
05-14-2006, 10:17 PM
Will Lana find out about Clark's powers? Yes.
Will Clark be the one to tell her? No.
After Lana was killed, Clark took Jor-el up on his offer to let him change the past, and in the rewritten timeline, Johnathan Kent dies. Would he have died anyways when Lionel told him that he knew Clark's secret? Maybe, but it doesn't matter.
Clark feels responsible for causing his father's death. And his decision to save Lana was the reason his father is dead.
Guilt is a powerful motivator. Clark will never tell Lana that he has powers. She will probably find out eventually, but not from him.
watcher4
05-15-2006, 04:37 PM
My understanding is that when Lana finds out Clark's secret, the series is over. I guess that is because Lana not knowing has been such a central theme of the series. Maybe?
LusciousLois
06-07-2006, 04:39 PM
Because she is, obviously, untrustworthy and horrible at keeping a secret, especially around Lex. If she had not have whined and complained to him about Clark, in the first place, he might not have been able to know that she was hiding Clark's secret. She's also one of those vindictive, judgemental type of people that will tell all your business once you break up with them. Clark's better off.
myankskent
06-07-2006, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by LusciousLois
Because she is, obviously, untrustworthy and horrible at keeping a secret, especially around Lex. If she had not have whined and complained to him about Clark, in the first place, he might not have been able to know that she was hiding Clark's secret. She's also one of those vindictive, judgemental type of people that will tell all your business once you break up with them. Clark's better off.
I disagree. Lex is not stupid, at least I hope he's not. There are two reasons why Lex was forceful with Lana in that scene, because he was drunk and because Lana is a girl. It's the same reason why he was forceful with Chloe in Commencement. Do you really think that he doesn't realize when Clark is lying to him? So what if he knows or suspects that Lana knows the truth, the most important thing is that she keeps the secret, which is exactly what she did do in that scene.
LusciousLois
06-07-2006, 05:19 PM
In that scene, yes! But, Lex found out anyway! With her dramatics and running away, causing a RIDICULOUS car chase, getting hit by a bus, and Clark superspeeding into plain sight, Lex found out anyway. The words may not have come out of her mouth, but her stupidity still gave it away. She, simply, cannot be trusted. Stupid people never can be. Sorry.
myankskent
06-07-2006, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by LusciousLois
In that scene, yes! But, Lex found out anyway! With her dramatics and running away, causing a RIDICULOUS car chase, getting hit by a bus, and Clark superspeeding into plain sight, Lex found out anyway. The words may not have come out of her mouth, but her stupidity still gave it away. She, simply, cannot be trusted. Stupid people never can be. Sorry.
How did Lex find out? Did Lana force Clark to superspeed right past him? She wasn't responsible for that, and to me, you don't get style points for keeping a secret. Lex knows that Clark's parents know the truth, what's the difference if he knows that Chloe and Lana know the truth as well?
LusciousLois
06-07-2006, 05:32 PM
Of course, Lex knows that Clark's parents know the truth. He also knows that they will never give that information up. So, what does an intelligent person, such as Lex, do in this instance? They pick on a weaker, less intelligent person (Lana) until they get the information that they want. And, yes, myankskent, I understand your POV. I'm just saying, that her death, ultimately gave away the secret. Again, the words don't have to come out of your mouth for the truth to be told.
myankskent
06-07-2006, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by LusciousLois
Of course, Lex knows that Clark's parents know the truth. He also knows that they will never give that information up. So, what does an intelligent person, such as Lex, do in this instance? They pick on a weaker, less intelligent person (Lana) until they get the information that they want. And, yes, myankskent, I understand your POV. I'm just saying, that her death, ultimately gave away the secret. Again, the words don't have to come out of your mouth for the truth to be told.
Lex can get anyone to tell him the secret if he wants to. All he needs is to hire some guys who can drug the person that he is interrogating and he can break anyone. The people who know about Clark's secret aren't exactly trained for that sort of thing. Maybe his parents would last it because it is their son, but Chloe and Lana wouldn't last long without telling him. But if he just continues to ask people to tell him, no one is going to tell Lex the truth, not Chloe, not Lana, not anyone.
LusciousLois
06-07-2006, 06:39 PM
I'm not sure if that last statement is even worthy of a response. However, your first sentence contradicts your last.
myankskent
06-07-2006, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by LusciousLois
I'm not sure if that last statement is even worthy of a response. However, your first sentence contradicts your last.
No it doesn't because my last statement implies that Lex is just going to go around asking people for the truth, my first statement implies Lex using physical force and even drugs to get a person to tell him.
LusciousLois
06-07-2006, 07:13 PM
The word, "physically" in the first sentence might have helped.... Dude, I'm soooooooooooooooooo done with this.
halloween
06-10-2006, 09:52 AM
"A man who don't need his father's advice any more"
What a heartbreaking sentence!
Oh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on. Please!!!!!!!!!
Clark hurt Chloe again by shocking her with the news that he proposed Lana to marry him!!!!!!!!
What a heartbreaking thing to Chloe who has put up with the hurt all the way!!!
Get refreshed, Chloe!!!!!!
martuunia
06-12-2006, 05:28 PM
In the comic book... etc. etc But it's Smallville! Everything it's possible. Even if you think different ;] Lana isn't ment to Clark. Chloe is the one of one... but Lana should know about Clark's secret. Some of things may easier.
lanalang1234
07-16-2006, 06:25 PM
no i think that clark will wont tell lana because he must feel guilty about how he practically killed her parents and things like that
Lex will never Do such extremes to hurt his connection to Clark. Now that i said it thinking back.
or He never let's Clark find out. so hurting Clark's Friends will CERTAINLY be in Clark's radar
and Lex has Class that the Luthors does stuff More Style. Chloe pointed this out on prev eps.Originally posted by myankskent
No it doesn't because my last statement implies that Lex is just going to go around asking people for the truth, my first statement implies Lex using physical force and even drugs to get a person to tell him.Also the Issue of Lana being Trustworthy is Reliable. aA you could see thru the series but that in it self is another thread.
In the TPTB already stated that they will not do anything drastic that would change the movie story line. and AoT as LANA in the movie Doesn't know that Clark is Superman.
gj430
09-12-2006, 11:14 PM
Yeah but the Lana he didn't even date the Lana in the movies and they showed her for like 1 minute instead of a 6 or 7 year story where they could end up friends with her knowing the secret but them knowing they aren't right for each other, why does everything always either have to be her hating him or death I don't think it has to end up like that. But I'm not sure where they are going to go with it.
Saviour of Earth
09-17-2006, 04:56 AM
"Sigh"
Lana at the end of season 5 hates Clark, this is where the story should be. Lex and Clark are at odds becuase of their feelings for Lana. This is yet another thing to strain clark and lex's relationship, in season 6 i think it will be a bit better with clark finally accepting the relationship.
But something drastic will happen to make Clark change his mind over lana and lex's relationship.
In the end Clark will tell Lana, but see thier own legacy in the comics is that of deep freindship this is all they shall ever be, nearing the end of the series clark will tell Lana his secret, tell her everything and also tel her his decision to be an example for the world to follow to be a symbol of hope and inspiration.
And then he shall leave her.
supergirl28
12-15-2006, 03:37 PM
Lana is bound to know sooner or later. Clark can keep the truth for ever.
SheaMan
04-19-2007, 06:07 PM
Its interesting to see her reaction to learning Clark's secret, and with all the support in the world she ... barely held up.
If it weren't for Lois then she very well could have said no to Clark (with tears in her eyes of course), but after almost marrying Lex Luthor ... finding out by seeing something instead of being romantically taken to the fortress ... and not having the story book Kent farm to come to grips in ... she'll crack in a heartbeat.
She'll be all like - I get it - I understand the secret, but then she'll pull away and admit that shes scared to death of super humans. In fact I think that given more time to really mull over the reality of marrying a superhuman creature from another planet - she would have backed out eventually anyway.
smlgrl1547
08-05-2007, 05:32 AM
Yes i hope so
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