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umario
01-17-2006, 02:11 PM
what was Clark scared about so that he didn't want to have sex with Lana?:confused:
SuperStrength
01-17-2006, 03:02 PM
heeeey, remember that clark got superspeed and superstrength.
when he is on the 'job', he can forget to control them all :D
ballofsteel
01-17-2006, 05:20 PM
He might put her into next year!!
Or, break her in 2!!!
Who knows??
Maybe she dies in episode 100 because of the sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
son2380
01-17-2006, 05:28 PM
Thats how Lana's gonna die in episode 100 lol.
smallville_fetish
01-17-2006, 07:07 PM
That's why when he was on top of Lana she said OW and I've never seen anyone get off a girl that quick and scared and that's why he said 'Did I hurt you?" Remember, this is the Clark that can fall from 50story buildings onto a rock and either break the rock into bits or leave a human body print on it.
orient_celts
01-17-2006, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by ballofsteel
He might put her into next year!!
Or, break her in 2!!!
Who knows??
Maybe she dies in episode 100 because of the sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:rotfl:
No-El
01-18-2006, 10:07 AM
His identity being revealed during the act and his subconscious guilt plaguing him in keeping his secret from Lana!!
son2380
01-18-2006, 11:03 AM
or he might be afraid of frying Lana with his heat vision. I believe it is still triggered by sexual impulse lol.
kaatiedid
01-18-2006, 02:06 PM
I think it was a combination of the fear that he might hear her and the guilt of not telling her his biggest secret of all. If he can't be honest with her, why should he be able to be intimate with her?
~Katie~
No-El
01-18-2006, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by kaatiedid
I think it was a combination of the fear that he might hear her and the guilt of not telling her his biggest secret of all. If he can't be honest with her, why should he be able to be intimate with her?
~Katie~
Basically yeah that is what I say!:D
loisnlana
01-19-2006, 09:44 AM
This debate has been going on for decades, I am glad Smallville addressed it.
No-El
01-19-2006, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by son2380
or he might be afraid of frying Lana with his heat vision. I believe it is still triggered by sexual impulse lol.
Yeah, I could see it right now:
Lana Burgers!! :lol:
Lifebound
01-19-2006, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by No-El
Yeah, I could see it right now:
Lana Burgers!! :lol:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
There are so many things that could go wrong, Clark being Clark. I'm surprised he didn't screw it up even when he was human.
heatvision=CK+CS
01-19-2006, 06:44 PM
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I don't want to sound unexperianced or anything ( but I am it's just that its not like I dont know what gos down in these kind of situations) but anyways is'nt superstrength aaaaaa good
thing?;):confused:
And if Clark couldnt control himself like he said could'nt he just like leave? Knock Lana out and come back and say "Hey Lana, it's cool, just whent out to get some stuff, you know, ice.strawbarrys.:eek: OK, that sounded kind of sleasy or that I was in the mood but no, ummm it was just a dream. The dream that you had that I would have no idea what was about, but ummm yeah;):)" And if Lana really did know his sereat he wounld'nt have to say anthything:).
Yeah, I really dont know if that makes sense, and I really dont know what to say when talking about this with your partner. :D but I bet there is some loop hole somewhere some how to make this situation work. It's not like he can never make.have. be in a situation....Point is he can still do the nasty with Miss Lang
Lifebound
01-19-2006, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by heatvision=CK+CS
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I don't want to sound unexperianced or anything ( but I am it's just that its not like I dont know what gos down in these kind of situations) but anyways is'nt superstrength aaaaaa good
thing?;):confused:
And if Clark couldnt control himself like he said could'nt he just like leave? Knock Lana out and come back and say "Hey Lana, it's cool, just whent out to get some stuff, you know, ice.strawbarrys.:eek: OK, that sounded kind of sleasy or that I was in the mood but no, ummm it was just a dream. The dream that you had that I would have no idea what was about, but ummm yeah;):)" And if Lana really did know his sereat he wounld'nt have to say anthything:).
Yeah, I really dont know if that makes sense, and I really dont know what to say when talking about this with your partner. :D but I bet there is some loop hole somewhere some how to make this situation work. It's not like he can never make.have. be in a situation....Point is he can still do the nasty with Miss Lang
Heatvision=CK+CS: Weeellll, the thing is, Clark isn't just stronger than most humans, he is like a million times stronger (if the physics is done, it probably isn't even an exaggeration!)
Clark is afraid that "in the heat of the moment" he won't have control. In other words, he wouldn't be able to just leave (because that would require a lot of discipline to stop doing what he was doing and hence control). Also, if Clark's alien physiology is anything like human physiology, then there is a certain phenomenon which makes it extremely painful for a human male to stop doing what they are doing during the act. So, if he lost control, then his heat vision might fry Lana, or his super strength might make him crush her bones, or something.
So yeah, hope that answers the inquiry . But heck...what do I know? I'm probably as inexperienced as you. ;) ;) I tried to be as modest as possible with the language, although it is quite difficult to do so when the topic is sex. I don't think I've ever seen such variety in smileys in any post in my life.
heatvision=CK+CS
01-19-2006, 07:25 PM
:rotfl: I just realised about the smilie thing, and yes :rotfl: there is a nice variety:D.
Lol you seem like a really cool intelagent guy, and thanks for clearning up the questions :D its just that I was watching this with my family, its hard to find the words when asking your parents about sex. So thank you so much but even though
I didnt get some of the words you used, It makes sense:D.
Poor Clark, can't have most of the plearures of the world:o.
This is really some life leasons for me, dont fall in love with someone from another plant.......sexualy......
Lifebound
01-19-2006, 07:49 PM
Sorry about the word choice...PM me the words you didn't get and it'll be a vocabulary lesson :)
Yes, we learn a lot from SV, especially about sex. LOL
ubermenschlich
01-20-2006, 10:46 AM
I've never understood this whole issue.
He just needs to take it out for a test drive.
bobsuncorp
01-21-2006, 05:08 AM
I haven't read all of the posts under this episode, so apologies if this has already been covered somewhere else. Oh and I will try and tone it down but the subject matter dictates that this may be a bit strong for little kiddies.
So: Larry Niven (Sci-fi author) wrote an essay in I think it was the eighties with the above title, which explored the unlikelyhood of Clark and Lois (or any human woman) ever actually having sex. He covered the aforementioned points, that he would lose control and cause her some serious trauma, but also that even if he managed to stay completely focused when he ejaculated that this would too be at super speed (he postulated that there would be frozen sperm satellites in orbit from when the adolescent Clark would play with himself and holes in the Kents bathroom ceiling). The effect would be like blowing a hole through to the back of her spine with a shotgun. Then theres the idea that he wouldn't know when to stop, I mean this guy has almost unlimited strength and stamina, so the fact that his teenage excitability in such situations would, proportionally, mean he would last for hours instead of minutes could cause her some damage.
Another point which isn't really relevant here but is worth thinking about is pregnancy. I mean think about it: in humans only 1 (maybe more in rare circumstances) sperm out of millions is able to successfully fertilise the ovum, but with super sperm, they would all do so, resulting in an almost certainly fatal multiple pregnancy. The only possibility would be to fertilise the egg in vitro, to be sure only 1 sperm is used, but then who would carry it to term? The human mother again would not survive, one good kick and the baby puts its foot through the uterine wall and through her stomach. It would require another superhuman (wonder woman, supergirl, etc) to carry the baby and deliver it before supes and Lana/Lois finally hear the swoosh of tiny capes.
No-El
01-21-2006, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by bobsuncorp
I haven't read all of the posts under this episode, so apologies if this has already been covered somewhere else. Oh and I will try and tone it down but the subject matter dictates that this may be a bit strong for little kiddies.
So: Larry Niven (Sci-fi author) wrote an essay in I think it was the eighties with the above title, which explored the unlikelyhood of Clark and Lois (or any human woman) ever actually having sex. He covered the aforementioned points, that he would lose control and cause her some serious trauma, but also that even if he managed to stay completely focused when he ejaculated that this would too be at super speed (he postulated that there would be frozen sperm satellites in orbit from when the adolescent Clark would play with himself and holes in the Kents bathroom ceiling). The effect would be like blowing a hole through to the back of her spine with a shotgun. Then theres the idea that he wouldn't know when to stop, I mean this guy has almost unlimited strength and stamina, so the fact that his teenage excitability in such situations would, proportionally, mean he would last for hours instead of minutes could cause her some damage.
Another point which isn't really relevant here but is worth thinking about is pregnancy. I mean think about it: in humans only 1 (maybe more in rare circumstances) sperm out of millions is able to successfully fertilise the ovum, but with super sperm, they would all do so, resulting in an almost certainly fatal multiple pregnancy. The only possibility would be to fertilise the egg in vitro, to be sure only 1 sperm is used, but then who would carry it to term? The human mother again would not survive, one good kick and the baby puts its foot through the uterine wall and through her stomach. It would require another superhuman (wonder woman, supergirl, etc) to carry the baby and deliver it before supes and Lana/Lois finally hear the swoosh of tiny capes.
Interesting and funny points of that Essay!
However, if Clark can voluntarily control his abilities on the football field, surely he could do the same with SEX and WITHDRAWAL.:p
Lifebound
01-21-2006, 10:58 AM
Also, the pregnancy thing I think is wrong. Clark's abilities grow with time AND with exposure to the sun. The baby would have in the womb very little of that (and I mean VERY little). So one good kick wouldn't kill the mother, because the baby would not have developed superpowers yet.
The second issue is actually the chromosome match-up. However, it is might be possible because of some similarities. Its like how two different breeds of dogs can do the dance and create a new breed successfully. I would think of it like that.
There is also no reason to think that the sperm would kill the woman. Why? Because if Clark performs at the speed normal people do (through CONTROL) there is a good probability that the momentum of the sperm is similar to that of a normal person. In that scenario, because of the low velocity (mass would be relatively equal to a normal person and thus so would velocity since p=mv) of the sperm, it is as likely for fatal multiple fertilizations as for a normal person.
Overall, the only main difficulty other than control is the genetic similarity for conception of a baby.
bobsuncorp
01-21-2006, 11:36 AM
The point about the baby not having super powers through no exposure to the sun is a valid one (although is it the light from our yellow sun or the radiation? if the latter then the foetus would be as exposed as Clark). I was thinking not necessarily about the speed of the sperm but rather their super dense structure and therefore their toughness would be the most dangerous to Clarks, erm, friend. They may be small, but so are shotgun pellets. And made of lead.
Then there is the point that parts of his body retain their super powers after they have been separated from his body: his hair is still tough, his blood has healing properties, his sperm have tails. Why wouldn't they be able to swim faster than a humans? And when fertilisation does occur the ova forms a protective shell of some kind (its been a while since Biology class) that stops any other little guys getting in. That wouldn't stop super sperm!
All of this does of course assume that his internal reproductive process is as human like as the external. For all we know Kryptonian males may reproduce through mitosis once every Klnarrd cycle.
Lifebound
01-21-2006, 11:55 AM
Well here is the thing: Kryptonians aren't superhumans. One would assume that they are basically like humans in the conditions of their own planet. So, for the sperm at the beginning of its life cycle, it would not yet have developed similar strength and speed qualities that Clark has. Secondly, given that higher velocity is an advantage for sperm in fertilization, super-dense sperm would be a disadvantage (as it can be assumed that there is a limit to the total momentum with which the sperm is released - thus as mass increases (since volume of sperm is constant, increased density means increased mass) the velocity must decrease). Given the nature of evolution, super-dense sperm does not make sense whatsoever.
No-El
01-22-2006, 03:00 PM
Given your statements, I do believe that it is possible for a Kryptonian and Human to be successful!
Even Jo (Jor-El) told Louise (Lana's great aunt) in Season's 3 'RELIC' that such a Union would not be accepted in their Kryptonian Sociiety! Which suggests that Jor-El's statement is valid when Humans mate with Kryptonians!
Given your statements, I do believe that it is possible for a Kryptonian and Human to be successful!
Even Jo (Jor-El) told Louise (Lana's great aunt) in Season's 3 'RELIC' that such a Union would not be accepted in their Kryptonian Sociiety! Which suggests that Jor-El's statement is valid when Humans mate with Kryptonians!
Lifebound
01-22-2006, 06:36 PM
Great citation of evidence. His argument wasn't that such a union wasn't possible, but rather of a fear of ostracism.
heatvision=CK+CS
01-22-2006, 06:56 PM
Whoa, you guys seem soooo smart, I guess you could call me a Lois ;) right now. But I like the Chlois idea :D. But anyways, really interesting stuff :D.
Ohhh and I guess I have another question, so Clark can't "be" with his lady friends, but can't he please them still, like with some other kinky other stuff :o, some ways that dosnt invole him losing contorl, just pleasureing them or something that dosnt enlove breaking or blowing holes though them. He can still make the girls happy, and himself, well can be with himself.
Gosh I know thats a dirty question but just a 14 year olds inocint sexual question;). lol
Lifebound
01-22-2006, 07:02 PM
heatvision=CK+CS...no matter how much I or anyone else discusses Clark, we will never know if he will burn the house down or not until he actually tries. It should be no problem for Clark to make his girlfriend "happy" as you ask. In my opinion, not only can he make his girlfriends "happy", but he can also do the act without hurting her.
heatvision=CK+CS
01-22-2006, 08:09 PM
:lol: I will keep beliving this untill I see other wise;), which I wont belive will happen anytime soon on the show, but with Lana allways in the mood these days, I might just be wrong:rolleyes::D.....Lana.....:( allways in the mood
No-El
01-22-2006, 10:41 PM
From what I understand, Superman is having sex in the comics!
If so, then it is validated from Relic and other canon!
thehenry89
01-25-2006, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by ballofsteel
He might put her into next year!!
Or, break her in 2!!!
Who knows??
Maybe she dies in episode 100 because of the sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well rember what richard pryor said about how he wanted to die he said "i'd like to come and go at the same time"
metropolis
01-26-2006, 08:11 AM
Hey, as for this whole situation, I'm sure there are ways for them to be "safe" about it. Maybe there is a way for Lana to avoid getting in Clark's "line of fire." (heh)
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Thanks, folks, I'll be here all week!
metropolis
01-30-2006, 12:04 PM
Is this an audiance or a prison gang?
Eh,Man?You-El?
01-30-2006, 12:30 PM
Man of Steel
Woman of Kleenex
by Larry Niven 1971
http://www.rawbw.com/~svw/superman.html
The section on "super sperm" is actually even more scary and funny than the section on sex-proper:
Meanwhile, tens of millions of sperm swarm in the air over Metropolis.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIII
This is more serious than it looks.
Consider: these sperm are virtually indestructible. Within days or weeks they will die for lack of nourishment. Meanwhile they cannot be affected by heat, cold, vacuum, toxins, or anything short of green kryptonite. (*And other forms of kryptonite. For instance, there are chunks of red kryptonite that make giants of kryptonians. Imagine ten million earthworm size spermatozoa swarming over a Metropolis beach, diving to fertilize the beach balls... but I digress.*) There they are, minuscule but dangerous; for each has supernormal powers.
Metropolis is shaken by tiny sonic booms. Wormholes, charred by meteoric heat, sprout magically in all kinds of things: plate glass, masonry, antique ceramics, electric mixers, wood, household pets, and citizens. Some of the sperm will crack lightspeed. The Metropolis night comes alive with a network of narrow, eerie blue lines of Cherenkov radiation.
And women whom Superman has never met find themselves in a delicate condition.
Consider: LL won't get pregnant because there were too many of the blind mindless beasts. But whenever one sperm approaches an unfertilized human egg in its panic flight, it will attack.
How close is close enough? A few centimeters? Are sperm attracted by chemical cues? It seems likely. Metropolis had a population of millions; and kryptonian sperm could travel a long and crooked path, billions of miles, before it gives up and dies.
Several thousand blessed events seem not unlikely. (*If the pubescent Superboy plays with himself, we have the same problem over Smallville.*)
Several thousand lawsuits would follow. Not that Superman can't afford to pay. There's a trick where you squeeze a lump of coal into its allotropic diamond form...
metropolis
01-30-2006, 01:19 PM
*crickets chirping*
That's...nice. But I was referring to "line of fire" as the heat vision. See? It had double meaning.
Eh,Man?You-El?
01-30-2006, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by metropolis
*crickets chirping*
That's...nice. But I was referring to "line of fire" as the heat vision. See? It had double meaning.
Really???
I'm still straining to find a single meaning.
Oh, and BTW, "this" is neither a prison gang (whatever that means)
OR an "audience" per se.
Brown-eyes
01-30-2006, 02:02 PM
I'm wondering if he asked a mortal woman (you know who) to marry him and she said yes then what was he expecting??? Ok sure honey lets get married but WHAaaa? No sex??? The diamond trick is great but this girl's got needs!!! hehehehe :D
Lifebound
01-30-2006, 06:30 PM
Honestly, I find that essay by Larry Niven to make far too many assumptions which I frankly don't believe. I think one has to understand that Superman's abilities are not natural on Krypton and thus, without the prolongued exposure to sunlight, the sperm would not necessarily have the same indestructible properties of Superman.
metropolis
01-31-2006, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by Eh,Man?You-El?
Really???
I'm still straining to find a single meaning.
Are you really that naive?
No-El
01-31-2006, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Brown-eyes
I'm wondering if he asked a mortal woman (you know who) to marry him and she said yes then what was he expecting??? Ok sure honey lets get married but WHAaaa? No sex??? The diamond trick is great but this girl's got needs!!! hehehehe :D
Yes, you hit on the real hard true and reality to any relationship, especially when it comes to the BDA!:lol:
UpandAtom
02-16-2006, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by Lifebound
Honestly, I find that essay by Larry Niven to make far too many assumptions which I frankly don't believe. I think one has to understand that Superman's abilities are not natural on Krypton and thus, without the prolongued exposure to sunlight, the sperm would not necessarily have the same indestructible properties of Superman.
Saying that Superman's sperm aren't indestructible is like saying his bones aren't unbreakable. Everything inside his body takes on the same properties he has.
Originally posted by Eh,Man?You-El?
Man of Steel
Woman of Kleenex
by Larry Niven 1971
http://www.rawbw.com/~svw/superman.html
The section on "super sperm" is actually even more scary and funny than the section on sex-proper:
Meanwhile, tens of millions of sperm swarm in the air over Metropolis.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VIII
This is more serious than it looks.
Consider: these sperm are virtually indestructible. Within days or weeks they will die for lack of nourishment. Meanwhile they cannot be affected by heat, cold, vacuum, toxins, or anything short of green kryptonite. (*And other forms of kryptonite. For instance, there are chunks of red kryptonite that make giants of kryptonians. Imagine ten million earthworm size spermatozoa swarming over a Metropolis beach, diving to fertilize the beach balls... but I digress.*) There they are, minuscule but dangerous; for each has supernormal powers.
Metropolis is shaken by tiny sonic booms. Wormholes, charred by meteoric heat, sprout magically in all kinds of things: plate glass, masonry, antique ceramics, electric mixers, wood, household pets, and citizens. Some of the sperm will crack lightspeed. The Metropolis night comes alive with a network of narrow, eerie blue lines of Cherenkov radiation.
And women whom Superman has never met find themselves in a delicate condition.
Consider: LL won't get pregnant because there were too many of the blind mindless beasts. But whenever one sperm approaches an unfertilized human egg in its panic flight, it will attack.
How close is close enough? A few centimeters? Are sperm attracted by chemical cues? It seems likely. Metropolis had a population of millions; and kryptonian sperm could travel a long and crooked path, billions of miles, before it gives up and dies.
Several thousand blessed events seem not unlikely. (*If the pubescent Superboy plays with himself, we have the same problem over Smallville.*)
Several thousand lawsuits would follow. Not that Superman can't afford to pay. There's a trick where you squeeze a lump of coal into its allotropic diamond form... Originally posted by Lifebound
Also, the pregnancy thing I think is wrong. Clark's abilities grow with time AND with exposure to the sun. The baby would have in the womb very little of that (and I mean VERY little). So one good kick wouldn't kill the mother, because the baby would not have developed superpowers yet.
The second issue is actually the chromosome match-up. However, it is might be possible because of some similarities. Its like how two different breeds of dogs can do the dance and create a new breed successfully. I would think of it like that.
There is also no reason to think that the sperm would kill the woman. Why? Because if Clark performs at the speed normal people do (through CONTROL) there is a good probability that the momentum of the sperm is similar to that of a normal person. In that scenario, because of the low velocity (mass would be relatively equal to a normal person and thus so would velocity since p=mv) of the sperm, it is as likely for fatal multiple fertilizations as for a normal person.
Overall, the only main difficulty other than control is the genetic similarity for conception of a baby. We can ALL say about the Super-Sperm
1. Will last longer and More Resilient.
2. Even after it gets washed away.
3. and Even the 1st Sperm Ferilize the egg. Nature will make the Ovum change to a stronger egg and does not effect when more sperm goes into one egg.
ALL can be solved with a Kryptonite Condom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yivtalR5V6A) or Having a small Green-K during intercourse. OR they can Do it in the Fortress of Solitude.
Carrying the Pregnancy is Possible as stated by Lifebound.
http://www.esnips.com/nsdoc/0a473efe-dc11-4ddd-989e-e93183696826
And to end this Sex question forever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=smallville&v=E9b3mp9qFpw
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