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LordSkywalker
11-17-2005, 11:16 PM
I guess it was a bit warmer with the pink glow this time, because Chloe didn't have blue lips or ice crystals in her hair.

Although I did like the scene later on with her cuddled up by the fire in a blanket, next to Clark, getting warmed up.

I thought it made a good Chlark scene.

-Monty

Jay Eff
11-17-2005, 11:28 PM
remember last time Jor-El started the wind storm and blew Chloe with a bunch of snow and air, while this time Jor-El was probably freaking out about the whole OMG-my-FOS-is-melting!

michaelcox
11-17-2005, 11:43 PM
but how did she get in. Yes I know Clark "left his key behind". But remember, Brainic said that he needed Clark as "Clark was the only one who could get in" or something.

Auryn
11-17-2005, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by michaelcox
but how did she get in. Yes I know Clark "left his key behind". But remember, Brainic said that he needed Clark as "Clark was the only one who could get in" or something.

Best darn point i've read yet.

I was thinking that too.

Chloe just walked in there as if it was lex's place or something.

you'd think those kryptonians would have a better security system..

TJPW
11-17-2005, 11:49 PM
Maybe he meant the Crystal Chamber would only accept a crystal shoved into it by Clark??? Just a guess...

Chloe82
11-17-2005, 11:52 PM
He never said that he couldn't get in without Clark (though he may have needed the key, but Clark left that behind so Chloe used it), but that Clark was the only one capable of destroying the Fortress.

That's all.

Emerald Dragen
11-17-2005, 11:54 PM
He said Clark was the only one who could effect the fortress. That's a little different than the only one who could get in. Besides, that wouldn't make sence, how would Luthor have gotten into the FOS in S2? That's never been a part of the mythos, is my point.

Jay Eff
11-17-2005, 11:54 PM
Actually, if you think about it, Brainiac most defenently would not be a welcome guest in the the house of El. I don't know it would be the destroying of Krypton or the attempting to move Kal-El into a destructive path. Chloe is a cute blonde girl, and a puny human. If on her own in the Arctic, she would never reach civilization before dying from the cold, meaning all information is kept secret. Whilst another Kryptonian or a Brainiac could easily get out and back to release all sorts of classified info, hence Kal-El (owner of the FOS) being the only Kryptonian to enter alone.

Summers
11-17-2005, 11:55 PM
I thought he meant he was the only that can work the crystal console.

Emerald Dragen
11-17-2005, 11:57 PM
Also, that would explain why the crystals shot out further into Brainiac when he was on them. Only Clark can mess with the crystals.

kostaki00
11-17-2005, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by michaelcox
but how did she get in. Yes I know Clark "left his key behind". But remember, Brainic said that he needed Clark as "Clark was the only one who could get in" or something.

He mean he needed the key. That's why he needed clark and didn't want to steal it from him

fattire
11-18-2005, 12:02 AM
yeah i also have a theory about kryptonian stuff being smart about that, explaining why lex was not portaled in last season's premeire. I could also see why Jor-El or whatever was acting at the portal would not let Brainiac through w/o Clark, while it would let Chloe through..because it already knows who she is...(especially after all that planning by Jor-El)

slave2moonlight
11-18-2005, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by LordSkywalker
I guess it was a bit warmer with the pink glow this time, because Chloe didn't have blue lips or ice crystals in her hair.

Although I did like the scene later on with her cuddled up by the fire in a blanket, next to Clark, getting warmed up.

I thought it made a good Chlark scene.

-Monty

All I gotta say is, Chloe has always been last on my list of Smallville girls. Cute, but not as cute as the others. Nevertheless, she looked GREAT in that blanket scene after getting back from the Fortress! She's really been going up on my list this season. I even had a Chloe dream last night, hmm... Not a nasty one, just really cute. I have to admit that if I were Clark seeing her in that cozy blanket, I would have climbed in there too! I don't think she looks as great in her Daily Planet scenes though, or the opening, with all the eye make-up. What's with fake blondes using excess eye-make-up? I always think of Charlie Sheen's line from Ferris Bueller...

Morbo
11-18-2005, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by michaelcox
Brainic said that he needed Clark as "Clark was the only one who could get in" or something.

Hmm, Lana said the same thing. :cool:

AnimeJoe
11-18-2005, 10:07 AM
Let's not forget that Chloe did walk into the Fortress on her own in the Season premiere. Clark didn't know she was there until he heard her calling out for help and saw her lying there helpless, freezing to death. Essentially turning into a Chloe-cicle!

photogirl
11-18-2005, 02:14 PM
I guess that she wasn't cold because Clark wasn't in that wierd ice thingy, blowing out ice and coldness, causing her frostbite.

superspider02
11-18-2005, 02:33 PM
It was shocking to see chloe able to enter the fos like she did. But it was very cool scenes in the fos and the fireplace scene was a nice chlark moment. I love their scenes together.

Elite
11-18-2005, 02:48 PM
glad they cleared that up how chloe got in - clark had only gone and left the key!
i guess he's meant to grab the key once the whole transporting thing begins...

Lana_Lang #1
11-18-2005, 03:23 PM
To quote Brainiac:

Brainiac "I couldn't have done it without you"

Brainiac "You were the only one that could activate the console. Now that you've completed your task, you're nothing more to me than a pesky annoyance"

Clark was the only one that could go near or activate the crystal shelf.

ms.c.
11-21-2005, 11:18 AM
Chloe coming in and helping Clark was a good touch. It reminded me a little of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. As powerful as she was, she repeatedly admitted that it was her friends that gave her strength and set her apart from all the other slayers who died quickly. They were her secret weapon, like Chloe is Clark's secret weapon. I like that message that even superheroes can't do it alone.

SteveS
11-21-2005, 12:10 PM
Interesting that I just out the same assistance on the part of Chloe to Clark on another board. Another poster had wondered why people liked this girl. That makes at least two times that she has saved Clark this year.

No-El
11-21-2005, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by ms.c.
Chloe coming in and helping Clark was a good touch. It reminded me a little of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. As powerful as she was, she repeatedly admitted that it was her friends that gave her strength and set her apart from all the other slayers who died quickly. They were her secret weapon, like Chloe is Clark's secret weapon. I like that message that even superheroes can't do it alone.


Like Chloe said at the end scene with Clark at the loft in 'Hidden':

".....It would make my whole "Sidekick" thing alot easier if you brought superdupers back to the table again!"

ColdTony
11-21-2005, 03:11 PM
"Let's not forget that Chloe did walk into the Fortress on her own in the Season premiere. Clark didn't know she was there until he heard her calling out for help and saw her lying there helpless, freezing to death. Essentially turning into a Chloe-cicle!"

Exactly! But she barely made it. This time she ran in there like it was warm. Her jacket wasn't even close (I think).

What I don't get is, How could Clark leave the key behind. He didn't leave it the first time when he had no experience of going through the portal. How could he do it this time, It's not like it was a door or car key. That would be more understandable.

Lana_Lang #1
11-21-2005, 03:31 PM
Correction: First time he didn't use the key, he grabbed the crystal, screamed a bit, then got teleport to the Artic.

I guess he was in such a hurry to save his mother, he just forgot it. Completely understandable but even so Clark should be more careful with that thing!

No-El
11-21-2005, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Lana_Lang #1
Correction: First time he didn't use the key, he grabbed the crystal, screamed a bit, then got teleport to the Artic.

I guess he was in such a hurry to save his mother, he just forgot it. Completely understandable but even so Clark should be more careful with that thing!


Now Lana_Lang#1 you have me curious about that key and its functions??

I would think that twice we saw the key still in the cave after transport:

*At the beginning of 'Arrival' Lex come to after being knocked unconsious by Chloe only to find the key still in the alter: you know when Aethyr does her jedi thing with her hand to take it away from Lex.

And now in Solitude this eps. Chloe uses the key still in its place in teleport herself.

So does anyone think that at the moment you slip the key into its slot and you think to remove the key the "split moment" of transport the process would be halted and you would not go anywhere??:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Lana_Lang #1
11-21-2005, 03:50 PM
I would imagine that as shown in "Solitude" when Chloe moved the key from one slot to the other to teleport, that since there are two slots, one is the standby slot and the other is the teleportation slot.

Once the key has been moved from the standby slot to the teleportation slot, inserting the key activates the teleportation slot and the teleportation begins, giving you enough time to grab the key before departing.

The reason for this is because the key is needed only to activate and start the teleportation system not run it.

If one should activate the teleporter and not grab the key I would imagine that it would disappear into the altar and pop back up into the standby slot minutes later, awaiting the next teleporter.

Which is why to teleport Chloe had to move the key from one slot to the other.

At least that's my theory. What do ya think?

Watching Smallville
11-21-2005, 03:58 PM
Were there two slots? I just thought she took it out of the slot and reinserted it to activate the teleportation. I really don't understand why she had the key, unless there's another slot at the FOS, and you do the same thing to get back to the cave--take the key out and reinsert it. Perhaps when the key is in place, it's in both slots at the same time, and when you take the key out of the slo, it stays with you wherever you are and disappears from the other slot.

Maybe that's how the key got to Dr. Swann from the cave. He had another slot. That would be interesting.

FlashFan
11-21-2005, 04:04 PM
I'd have to watch the scene again, but one thought I had was that when Clark used the key, he put it in the slot and let go. When Chloe used the key, she put it back in the slot, but didn't let go of it.

The difference being the key was transported with her, but not Clark, due to contact.

As I said though, just a guess, have to watch both scenes again to see if holds water.

No-El
11-21-2005, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by Lana_Lang #1
I would imagine that as shown in "Solitude" when Chloe moved the key from one slot to the other to teleport, that since there are two slots, one is the standby slot and the other is the teleportation slot.

Once the key has been moved from the standby slot to the teleportation slot, inserting the key activates the teleportation slot and the teleportation begins, giving you enough time to grab the key before departing.

The reason for this is because the key is needed only to activate and start the teleportation system not run it.

If one should activate the teleporter and not grab the key I would imagine that it would disappear into the altar and pop back up into the standby slot minutes later, awaiting the next teleporter.

Which is why to teleport Chloe had to move the key from one slot to the other.

At least that's my theory. What do ya think?


Excellent explaination thanks---appreciated!:D :D

However there are some gaps/pieces I think the writers do not show us:

Yes, I see there are actually two slots one slightly longer than the other. (not clear in 'Arrival' when Lex removes the key----thank god he did not think to re-insert it!!!):lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But they do not show the physically teleportation process out of the FOS using the same technique as in the cave.:confused: :confused:

Watching Smallville
11-21-2005, 04:10 PM
So they would get back from FOS using the key or not using the key?

FlashFan
11-21-2005, 04:17 PM
Well, going by the end of Hidden, when the bright light goes again after Clark and Lion-El have their talk, no key was used.

smoky
11-21-2005, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by ColdTony

What I don't get is, How could Clark leave the key behind. He didn't leave it the first time when he had no experience of going through the portal. How could he do it this time, It's not like it was a door or car key. That would be more understandable. Maybe he didn't bother with the key because he went there to destroy the F.O.S. & could always simply superspeed back.

All about Clark
11-21-2005, 04:57 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by No-El
[B]Excellent explaination thanks---appreciated!:D :D

Yes, I see there are actually two slots one slightly longer than the other. (not clear in 'Arrival' when Lex removes the key----thank god he did not think to re-insert it!!!):lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

In looking at this more carefully there is only 1 slot. The other larger line is part of the Kryptonian wording on the face of the alter.

Chloe took the key out and then put it back in which began the teleportation and she held onto it, whereas Clark did not.

No-El
11-21-2005, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by All about Clark
[QUOTE]Originally posted by No-El
[B]Excellent explaination thanks---appreciated!:D :D

Yes, I see there are actually two slots one slightly longer than the other. (not clear in 'Arrival' when Lex removes the key----thank god he did not think to re-insert it!!!):lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

In looking at this more carefully there is only 1 slot. The other larger line is part of the Kryptonian wording on the face of the alter.

Chloe took the key out and then put it back in which began the teleportation and she held onto it, whereas Clark did not.


Oooh Yeah! Gotcha---thanks!!