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jarethmc

11-10-2005, 09:01 PM

I cant take it I tell you! They are obvioulsy gearing up to Clark losing a loved one! Unless the writers completely wack out on us and totally ignore the Superman cannon, I have only 2 people it can be,Pa or Chloe.

But for Pa I just cant bear that idea. I refuse to bear that idea!

It leaves Ma and if their is a god in heaven, it cant be her!

It leaves Chloe and her "I would die before I tell your secret!"The hint was so obvious that I say it cant be her. I dont want it to be her, she has been a true friend!

It CANT be Lana, it cant be Lana, Clark loves her so, please dont let it be Lana, please dont hurt Clark like that!! Even for those of you who dont like Lana, if you care about Clark at all, then you care about Lana! and I so do care about Clark.

So, I say it cant be any of the above, I think I will just be in total denial and ingnore the whole issue, until Clark becomes Superman, but unfortuneatly, I am obviously a sucker for an
emotional beating and will be back to take my punishment.
But of course I am in TOTAL DENIAL, so nothing can hurt me, RIGHT!!!

KalLover07

11-10-2005, 09:16 PM

De-nile ain't just a big river in Egypt.

Happy Random

11-10-2005, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by jarethmc
I cant take it I tell you! They are obvioulsy gearing up to Clark losing a loved one! Unless the writers completely wack out on us and totally ignore the Superman cannon, I have only 2 people it can be,Pa or Chloe.

But for Pa I just cant bear that idea. I refuse to bear that idea!

It leaves Ma and if their is a god in heaven, it cant be her!

It leaves Chloe and her "I would die before I tell your secret!"The hint was so obvious that I say it cant be her. I dont want it to be her, she has been a true friend!

It CANT be Lana, it cant be Lana, Clark loves her so, please dont let it be Lana, please dont hurt Clark like that!! Even for those of you who dont like Lana, if you care about Clark at all, then you care about Lana! and I so do care about Clark.

So, I say it cant be any of the above, I think I will just be in total denial and ingnore the whole issue, until Clark becomes Superman, but unfortuneatly, I am obviously a sucker for an
emotional beating and will be back to take my punishment.
But of course I am in TOTAL DENIAL, so nothing can hurt me, RIGHT!!!

I am so there! I really don't want to see any of them go! :(

No-El

11-10-2005, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by jarethmc
I cant take it I tell you! They are obvioulsy gearing up to Clark losing a loved one! Unless the writers completely wack out on us and totally ignore the Superman cannon, I have only 2 people it can be,Pa or Chloe.

But for Pa I just cant bear that idea. I refuse to bear that idea!

It leaves Ma and if their is a god in heaven, it cant be her!

It leaves Chloe and her "I would die before I tell your secret!"The hint was so obvious that I say it cant be her. I dont want it to be her, she has been a true friend!

It CANT be Lana, it cant be Lana, Clark loves her so, please dont let it be Lana, please dont hurt Clark like that!! Even for those of you who dont like Lana, if you care about Clark at all, then you care about Lana! and I so do care about Clark.

So, I say it cant be any of the above, I think I will just be in total denial and ingnore the whole issue, until Clark becomes Superman, but unfortuneatly, I am obviously a sucker for an
emotional beating and will be back to take my punishment.
But of course I am in TOTAL DENIAL, so nothing can hurt me, RIGHT!!!

I tell ya, you are in a dilema. I agree with you-----we love them all and Smallville is our "TV Family"!!

The enduring and endearing story of the Man of Steel is said to be as Al Gough puts it "a tragic story". One I can empathize with you!

So, I No-El will support you and all fans of these, our favorites characters.
Please vote in the poll I posted though about Chloe, Ok??:(

smallvillerocks45

11-10-2005, 09:30 PM

I think I'm in denial too...but if it isn't one of these people, then who?

captain cold

11-10-2005, 09:31 PM

will Pete Ross come back just to bite it?

smallvillerocks45

11-10-2005, 09:35 PM

I thought about that, but I just don't see that happening. He couldn't even be brought back for prom, why would they bring him back to die? I hope that none of the people who have been mentioned die. :(

Cinemastique

11-10-2005, 09:46 PM

Nope, Sam won't be back this season at all, probably not at all. :(

I think Pa should go. He's kind of run out of stuff to do on the show, there's only so salt-of-the-earth you can be. I like the character as a man, all the more reason for him to die. Imagine the amount of story we'd get out of it! There would be a whole shift from Jonathan to Clark as the show's moral center. I figure when all they have for him to do is run for senator (where the hell did THAT come from?) he's just gathering dust as far as the overall arc of the series (clark's development) is concerned.

MuchaLana

11-10-2005, 09:56 PM

i noticed Lois was not in your list ;) ,but do they have the balls to do it...i wouldn't mind seeing Lois die, she is just a filler episoder...get her out please...haha

Clark Kent 86

11-10-2005, 10:00 PM

Someone has to die, it pushes Clark farther to what he ultimately becomes.

And if they bring Pete back just to kill him, heads will roll!

Remus

11-10-2005, 10:18 PM

.. I think Henry Small should be the one to die. ;D

But, seriously, I think it'll be Jonathan. :((

Although, he IS the one strong pillar-like person in Clark's life..

.... I still say we should sacrifice Henry Small. He's as good as dead anyway, right?

Maybe a handful of FoTWs from level 33.1, too?

DarkClone

11-10-2005, 10:22 PM

I have a feeling it's gonna be Pa Kent . . . maybe he sacrifices himself while trying to save Martha . . .

Pa kent dying would follow canon, and I doubt they'd kill off Chloe this early in the series

farmboy20

11-10-2005, 10:26 PM

i say lex's good side will completly die leaving only evil lex

firegoddess

11-10-2005, 10:26 PM

If they stick to canon, then Chloe, Lionel and Jonathon are fair game. They can't kill off Lana, Lois or Martha unless they completely ignore canon.

Based upon spoilers though, I don't think Chloe's going to die but spoilers HAVE been known to be wrong so who knows?

My guess for episode 100 then, is that Jonathon and Lionel are going to die.

jarethmc

11-10-2005, 11:10 PM

Reply to firegoddess, It cant be Lional who dies, it is supposed to be someone Clark loves more than life itself and that rules Lional out.

Best Episode - 321

11-10-2005, 11:20 PM

I think Lois could die, but I don't see TPTB going that direction. Atleast I hope they don't go that direction.

Old Juan

11-10-2005, 11:25 PM

I think Pa should go. He's kind of run out of stuff to do on the show, there's only so salt-of-the-earth you can be. I like the character as a man, all the more reason for him to die. Imagine the amount of story we'd get out of it! There would be a whole shift from Jonathan to Clark as the show's moral center. I figure when all they have for him to do is run for senator (where the hell did THAT come from?) he's just gathering dust as far as the overall arc of the series (clark's development) is concerned.

WORD. This is precisely the reason why it will and should be Jonathan.

The whole following canon argument is pretty pointless considering that the canon has changed over the years and in current Superman canon both Jonathan and Martha are still alive.

firegoddess

11-10-2005, 11:38 PM

"...Reply to firegoddess, It cant be Lional who dies, it is supposed to be someone Clark loves more than life itself and that rules Lional out..."

Well, the spoilers are saying that, for Ep. 100, it's very possible that two characters are going to die-one of which, I'm assuming, doesn't have to be someone that Clark cares about. This makes Lionel fair game.

jack1487

11-10-2005, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by firegoddess
If they stick to canon, then Chloe, Lionel and Jonathon are fair game. They can't kill off Lana, Lois or Martha unless they completely ignore canon.

Based upon spoilers though, I don't think Chloe's going to die but spoilers HAVE been known to be wrong so who knows?

My guess for episode 100 then, is that Jonathon and Lionel are going to die.

It depends if you’re talking pre-crisis where Jonathan does die or post-crisis where he lives (which is the way I prefer it to happen). I feel it will be the love lost between Clark and Lana which will be one love losted and hopefully it will not be Chloe I feel she brings the connection between Clark and the rest of the story line…. I guess that we will have to wait and see!

Jack
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Originally posted by Best Episode - 321
I think Lois could die, but I don't see TPTB going that direction. Atleast I hope they don't go that direction.

She is a very big part of the Superman story and after all they do get married. Also I don't think that DC or the WB will let that happen, IMO!

Jack

~*Lois & Clark Fan*~

11-10-2005, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by Best Episode - 321
I think Lois could die, but I don't see TPTB going that direction. Atleast I hope they don't go that direction.

They would NEVER do that, she's the second most important character in Superman mythology. No way DC would let that happen ;)

I think it's Jonathan or Lionel this season. I think Chloe will die but probably not till close to series end.

Best Episode - 321

11-10-2005, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
They would NEVER do that, she's the second most important character in Superman mythology. No way DC would let that happen ;)

I think it's Jonathan or Lionel this season. I think Chloe will die but probably not till close to series end.

I know the Lois Lane character will never die, but they do have a loop hole. The whole Lois Lane pen name Chloe uses in either season 2 or 3. Like I said, I don't see it happening, just trying to list all the possibilities.

mallory

11-11-2005, 01:56 AM

zagen

11-11-2005, 04:16 AM

i actually wouldnt mind if Lana would die (she wont but i wouldnt mind)

i always liked lana but her time has come and the clana is just plain annoying now. its time for clark to grow up and stop lusting for the fairy princess.

and i wont be Lois, she is the second most important character in the superman myth (and besides, ED is freaking hot so they wont punish us viewers like that :cool: ) even with the whole chloe pen-name loophole (which i hate tbh).

Watching Smallville

11-11-2005, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by firegoddess
Well, the spoilers are saying that, for Ep. 100, it's very possible that two characters are going to die-one of which, I'm assuming, doesn't have to be someone that Clark cares about. This makes Lionel fair game.

I'm thinking Jonathan and Lionel because of the parallels that the show always draws between Clark and Lex. I won't be happy to lose anybody, but the show survives these major losses. It changes, but it survives.

superpal1

11-11-2005, 11:59 AM

I would place my money on Jonathan to die, however I would not rule out Lana. The show has seemed lately to place the emphasis on Chloe(ill die before betraying u) to Dear old dad. However, the only person Clark has metioned that he would never let anyone hurt is Lana. So as a twist, the one way he couldnt ever save her, is if it is her life force that was used.

FlashFan

11-11-2005, 12:13 PM

I think canon is out the window as far as SV goes. They have Lois Lane in Smallville (whether it's EDLois or Chloe=Lois), which never happened. in the case of Lois, they have her living with the Kents.

DC wouldn't let tptb mess with Lois Lane, the 2nd most important char in Superman mythos?
I disagree. Clark Kent, the most important char in the mythos, has married someone other Lois (yes, lots of tehcnical loopholes) AND he's having premarital sex with Lana. If DC didn't squash that from happening, killing off Lois should be a breeze.

SVFan7337

11-11-2005, 01:05 PM

Even if we all feel like they have license to do it, killing off Lois wouldn't fit the description of someone Clark LOVES, at least not yet. Right now she's the person that annoys him to death but is slowly growing on him, though he wouldn't admit it. He'd be a little sad, but I really don't think she qualifies as someone Clark loves--the sacrifice of that magnitude that Jor-El demands would not apply to her right now.

Eh,Man?You-El?

11-11-2005, 01:23 PM

Teaser for next episode - Solitude
show Martha being struck by a beam of energy and striken with a disease which covers part of her face. Brainiac / Milton Fine uses Clark's fear about losing Martha to get Clark to take him to the Fortress of solitude and do something dramatic to the system there (a crystaline short-circuit?).
Since Brainiac/Fine is (evidently) not Jor-El, then Jor-El probably meant someone OTHER than Martha was going to die.

The only other explanation is that Jor-El knew that Brainiac would try this ploy to trick Clark into letting him into the Fortress (because Clark had left before he could be trained). But for that to be true, jor-El would have to know this but NOT tell Clark - which seems far-fetched to me.

The question is, If Brainiac knew enough about Jor-El's plan to know someone will die? would he know more than what was told Clark - i.e. WHO would die?
Personally, I think Clark will mention to Fine/Brainiac what Jor-El said early in the next episode and Fine will then act on the information Clark provided as a hastily put together plan to trick Clark. THEN, the question becomes - Why would Brainiac choose a NON-lethal attack on Martha? The attack would have to be slow enough to allow CLark the hope of finding a cure in the Fortress of Solitude but quick and dramatic enough that Clark would feel immediate pressure to go there.
Brainiac will probably also say smething to the effect of:
"Clark, you will need my (additional strength or intellegence) to subdue this 'Jor-El'".

Once Brainiac leaves with Clark, Will martha immediately heal? I think this will ahppen because it would underline the fact that what Brainiac/Fine has been telling Clark are all lies and set up a big battle between Clark and Fine in the Fortress.

I SERIOUSLY DOUBT Martha will die. The important death PREDICTED by Jor-El is likely to be someone else.

Scotchman

11-11-2005, 03:07 PM

It isn't Chloe as she is mentioned "ALIVE" in the episode right after the 100th episode...so everyone just needs to relax as it wont be Chloe...Now as for Lionel, his usefulness is done now that Lex is on the path to evil hood... and Jonathan.... it would be sad but this is the truth that we all know will happen based on the Christopher Reeve Superman Movies... MA Kent never bites it till she is really old and grey!! Pete becomes the VP of the US and marries Lana Lang... Lois can't die as she still has many more years to come within the Superman Mythos, so my guess would be.... "The butler"!!! Oh wait they don't have a Butler?? Oops

Hendo

11-11-2005, 03:22 PM

it will be Jonathan. He's running for Senator against Lex and only Lex. Neiter of them becomes a senator in the comics. So... Jonathan is going to die and Lex will withdraw from the race over it. Either since he doesn't want Clark to think he killed his dad somehow just so he could win or out of some form of remorse. I'll bet you anything this is what will happen. They have a lot of freedom with Smallville but certain things like one of them becoming a senator DC would never sign off on...

katt12

11-11-2005, 04:17 PM

IMO, Jonathan and Lionel will die. I think that they're the only characters that could actually be killed w/o a huge change from the mythos, with the exception of Chloe. I'm definitely in denial about her dying.

attitudejc

11-11-2005, 09:00 PM

don't hat me cause of this, but i wouldn't really care if ma or pa dies. and lana, i think that the show just wouldn't be the show if she was gone, and Chole, oh i can't bear that thought. oh boy. whew. okay, i am good now.

Bumperjeep

11-11-2005, 09:54 PM

I dont know wichc way to go, i feel you pain. I just hope it ain't chole anyone else i can bear, but iot seems that she is the mot likely

LuthorRequiem2

11-12-2005, 04:17 PM

Lana didn't die in the comics, so I doubt it's her. Chloe...maybe. But I don't think she'll die at Jor-El's hands. I think she'll someday die at Lex's (like how she ALMOST died at Lionel's, or was that Lionel or Genevieve? They never did resolve that, which makes me mad. Anyway...) Jor-El could "die", or his "life force" could be taken from him and be given up for Clark, thus the sacrifice of father for son. Jonathan may die, because he's linked to Clark's powers since the season premiere of season three. Lionel could die, but that's doubtful, considering Jor-El said, "Someone you love", and Lionel would hardly fall under that category (plus I think if Lionel dies, it'll be at Lex's hands, or by something else unrelated). Martha maybe...but doubtful. She didn't die in the comics.

chlana_sandwich

11-12-2005, 05:46 PM

If it's someone Clark loves, it's gotta be Ma, Pa or Lana. At this point, I could do without Lana (hate to say), then Clark could focus on more important things.

I suppose Clark loves Chloe in a platonic way, so it could be her (that would suck, tho).

Jonathan is probably most likely. That would force Clark to be the "man of the house," which would be a good thing.

Or, maybe Lois dies and Chloe "becomes" Lois (I'd like that)! :)

OT... if you had your very own FoS, wouldn't you go there once in a while?? Just a thought. :p

SVFan7337

11-12-2005, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by chlana_sandwich
Or, maybe Lois dies and Chloe "becomes" Lois (I'd like that)! :)

Has anyone thought to count the number of episodes that Erica Durance is slated to be in up to the 100th episode? If her 13 episodes are not fulfilled by that point, then I doubt that "Chloe becomes Lois" scenario is going to happen.

jack1487

11-12-2005, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by SVFan7337
Has anyone thought to count the number of episodes that Erica Durance is slated to be in up to the 100th episode? If her 13 episodes are not fulfilled by that point, then I doubt that "Chloe becomes Lois" scenario is going to happen.

I feel that for one of the love's will be the break up of Clark and Lana which would give us one of the people. I also think that the other will be Jonathan but I hope not because I like the post-crisis where he lives. Anyhow thats my 2 cents worth.

Jack :)

captaincharisma

11-12-2005, 08:31 PM

I think that Jonathon is the person who will die. He is an oldie and it only takes 1 to do the parental work although in saying that, if Jon was to die what would happen with the farm? So on second thoughts I change my mind. Martha would probably be more likely of the two.

Then you got the three girls Lois, Chloe and Lana. Well 3 is a crowd and there's only 1 clark to go round. I do not subscribe to the theory regarding Chloe so for that reason she should be the one to die as the other two are in the comics.

That said I think that it won't be any one I have mentioned and I believe it will be Lionel and Jor-el who will die and it'll be revealed that Braniac had something to do with it.