Xbox 360 vs. PS3

[DarkseidX]

This has been one incredible year!!!!! They have released pictures of the PS3 and the XBox 360. The press has been greatly focusing on the software that's been released.

Of the software I've heard from the G4 channel, their appears to be a remake of FF7!!!!!!!!!!

NO JOKE!!!!!!!!! Anybody who wishes to see any of the video demos or anything like that from E3 can do so by going to IGN.com for any info.

It turns out the G4 channel or as they call it, "The Video Game Channel" has teamed up with IGN to bring you the inside scoop on E3.

For any who live on Pacific time, the two hour show starts at 4 o'clock and ends at 6.

So far it's only tuesday which means their is still three more days of E3. So be sure to check that out.

Killzone and Grand Turismo seem to be the favorites currently.

But I must say, the FF 7 demo is what raised the most eyebrows. Yes you know it, the 1997 hit that revolutionized the RPG gaming world.

So please anyone who wishes to speak anything displayed on or talked about on E3, please dont hesitate to talk.:)

[M.D.]

Sweet. I definitely want to hear about the FF7 remake..

[DarkseidX]

I'd give the link to the download but I think it's better if you want to see the video to go to IGN and see it.

It truly is incredible.

[Mr Boejangles]

OH MAN . the ps3 . if it can do what they are showing. OH MAN. killzone looks amazaing. the boxing game. speehless.

however the xbox360 ? snooooor thats a joke. not one game looks better than what the xbox can do now. plus they are pushing this ecommerce type thing which wont fly.

the nintendo revolution. whatever. they are behind again, with nothing to show except the system case. the size of 3 dvd cases.

I am an xbox fan now(more than ps2) and the new xbox looks very very weak.

[runningwithscissors]

I bought a ps2 when it first came out and it was amazing then.....but then i was totally bummed when i saw what xbox could do on-line that my ps2 could not (sony's server was adequate at best).

spec wise, readers are giving the edge to the xbox 360 (example 512 DDR memory for the xbox vs 256 DDR for the PS3).

Plus it sounds like microsoft will be having more software creators so xbox fans should have more choice for game titles. Honestly you probably can't go wrong with either system...i'll be getting both.

lol, nintendo? hey as long as mario bros still sells and zelda, they will always be in business.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

What are the processor speeds?

[Xcalibur]

What is a teroflop?

[DarkseidX]

Originally posted by Mr Boejangles
OH MAN . the ps3 . if it can do what they are showing. OH MAN. killzone looks amazaing. the boxing game. speehless.

however the xbox360 ? snooooor thats a joke. not one game looks better than what the xbox can do now. plus they are pushing this ecommerce type thing which wont fly.

the nintendo revolution. whatever. they are behind again, with nothing to show except the system case. the size of 3 dvd cases.

I am an xbox fan now(more than ps2) and the new xbox looks very very weak. I totally agree on the Xbox looking weak, but I have to be honest, the mothership isn't that fabulous either.

Killzone....unbeliaveable. I was literally in aw when I saw the stuff they had for it. Incredible.

The facial expressions on the boxing game were so real, but sadly I'm not into that stuf so I really dont care for that kind of game.

Originally posted by runningwithscissors
hey as long as mario bros still sells and zelda, they will always be in business. Incredible how even after this long, those characters still draw money. Amazing.

[Mr Boejangles]

Plus the xbox is doing something stupid. first they would not admit if it was backwards compatible. NOW they say it will be backwards compatible with hit xbox games. that means halo 1 and 2.... but that does not mean all the games, unlike PS3. :rolleyes:

[runningwithscissors]

both PS3 and xbox 360 speed is 3.2GHZ....which I will admit is faster than my recently purchased desktop lol

both microsoft AND sony only recently released that both consoles would be backwards compatible. It was kind of like a waiting game to see who would flinch first in releasing that their console would be backwards compatible.

Let's just hope that Sony fixed their on-line server problems this time around because compared to microsoft, it SUCKED. I'm a PS fan, but I have to admit, microsoft did their homework when it came to on-line gaming. Get both new consoles, they both will be great. It's like choosing between a BMW and a BENZ....ya can't really go wrong!

To me the tragedy is (depending on how you look at it) is if gamers want to take advantage of both consoles and their progressive scan 1080p HD graphics, gamers have to go out and buy one of those expensive HDTV consoles.

[Mr Boejangles]

well ps3 says they can play all their old games.
microsoft says it can only play the old HITS. I know that microsoft spokesman, the bald guy, and he is really shady, and into word play. so i know for somereason all games wont be playable.

nintendo rev will allow you to play the OLD games as well - but you have to rebuy them i am sure

[DarkseidX]

Oh for sure!! What would be the point in just allowing people to play old games. And look at the revenue that Nintendo is going to stock up on!!

Microsoft is sjhady and I think it's complete BS that they're never really honest on their intentions. I dont care what any of the software designers have been showing, their games look horrid.

On the other hand, even though PS3 didn't have a lot of playable games, you could tell they're going to be honest with their products. I trust Sony over Microsoft anyday.

[Mr Boejangles]

I am usually a microsoft fan, but for some reason it is really easy to see though their lies into their weakness this time. It must be their pitchman J allard. he comes off as a big phony when it comes to hardball questions. I really wonder why they cant make the system entirly backwards compatible. that bugs me. everyone else can do it. Plus they are not making anymore xbox games. Xbox is in its prime right now...cmon, Sony still makes games for the PS, and when PS3 comes out they will make games for the PS2.

[DarkseidX]

Actually they stopped production of PS1 games back in early March 2005.

But yeah come on!! Theres obviously gonna be some issues with playing some of the older games. They're so cheap and so thoughtless. They're so cheap they cant even have the backway compatibility.

Well I guess E3 is over. I guess now we can disscuss some of our thoughts on what they showed. us.

The Best Game:

The Best System:

[Mr Boejangles]

well still march 05 isnt bad at all, being i have not bought a ps1 game in years. :D but it was nice to have the option to.

But only to an extent. on another note, (though similar) i dont like how nintendo creates a different handheld system ever year, its just too much (and its crap)

best game at e3 : Killzone (i didnt really care about anything on the current gen systems after seeing the ps3 previews.)

best system: ps3

[DarkseidX]

Originally posted by Mr Boejangles
well still march 05 isnt bad at all, being i have not bought a ps1 game in years. :D but it was nice to have the option to.

But only to an extent. on another note, (though similar) i dont like how nintendo creates a different handheld system ever year, its just too much (and its crap)

best game at e3 : Killzone (i didnt really care about anything on the current gen systems after seeing the ps3 previews.)

best system: ps3 Yeah I agree, Nintendo is getting pretty desperate.

And I agree with both Killzone being the best game and the PS3 being the best new system.

[PATMAN]

I saw a test vid for hat they want Madden 06 (kinda weird since it wont come out till the 07 game nearly) to look like on PS3, and it is frickin amazing

[DarkseidX]

Really? I haven't focused too much on the sports titles, maybe cause I know they get old.:p

I'm not a fan of Sports Games.:\

[Jellie]

Hey Chris long time no speak

Sports games are great if you want to beat your mate or something, so i love sports games.

My favorite genre's are strategy,rpg and sports

[DarkseidX]

Definetly, and I think that with the addition of 60 Frames per second, the PS3 and the xbox 360 will deliver great RPG's and strategy games.

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by DarkseidX
Really? I haven't focused too much on the sports titles, maybe cause I know they get old.:p

I'm not a fan of Sports Games.:\


Hmm the only sports game which is worth my time is Winning Eleven.

NBA live is decent also.

And there is top spin........but its straight from the Xbox:mad:

[DarkseidX]

Wining 11 and FIFA are the only real games that interest me.

[Xcalibur]

I used to play fifa ever since fifa 98 straight till 2004.......then i discovered winning eleven and I loved the gameplay so I'm playing that now.

[DarkseidX]

Yeah I think I've also converted to the Darkseid :p

BTW next year I'm going to E3. It's only an hour and a half drive from my house to LA Convention so I'm going next year.

[Xcalibur]

Hmm , I'll probably go to E3 is a few years time after I leave University.
Tilol then I'll have to just watch it from afar.
Lucky you............because you live so close.

[DarkseidX]

I know!!! And next year I'll live even closer.

[Xcalibur]

Well when you go you can bring us first hand info.

[DarkseidX]

I can do better than that!! I can make you guys a video with everything!!! Yup I'm nice.:p

[Magus]

I know this thread exists,but couldn't find it anywhere. What do you guys think?

[wesley_wyndam_pryce]

PS3. I was never a big fan of Xbox. But I will always stick with the Playstations.

[akuma]

PS3, better graphics, better games and more selection of games. Controller is another thing, but i hope sony fixes that problem!

[DARKRAGE]

I stuck with Playstation from the start and I willl be there when they fold. bring on the PS3 to rob me blind for another couple of years Amen

[Summers]

XBOX 360 here. The controller itself is one of the major variables if I do well in a video game. I need a great controller, or I'm screwed lol.

Plus I can't live without my Project Gotham or Crimson Skies.

[luthorsmentor]

i'll eventually have both. that said i'm going to wait for them to work out all the bugs that you know they will have with the first launches. i'll also get the ps3 before i get the xbox 360.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

I imagine that eventually I'll get a PS3, but the one I'm banking on is the 360.

I had a chance to play one today (a King Kong demo) and the graphics were absolutely gorgeous. Stunning.

Not to mention I've heard that the PS3 is going to be outrageously priced. The 360 isn't cheap either at $300 - $400, but I've heard the PS3 is going to be even more expensive.

[Magus]

PS3 is clocking in at $500 i heard. THat's outrageous! That said, i'm getting the $400 xbox 360 package for christmas. Plus, once square starts with microsoft, it'll be invincible. I mean, look at fable 2! The new wave of rpgs is gonna bring forth some new fans and finally prove to old fans that we can still have good rpgs in this day and age.

[Summers]

I hope they do a Sudeki 2. That was fun. The screenshots of the new Superman Returns game from XBOX 360 look amazing.

[TMLS]

X-Box 260 for me, but will still be more likely to get a Revolution rather than one of these two.

[diabla9]

all my playstations have malfunctioned in one way or another. i stick with the xbox, definatley better graphics, but there are games (like gran turismo) that u can't get for xbox, that sucks

i'd like to get a psp tho, those are pretty sick

[Magus]

XBOX 360 is winning!

[Battle]

Nintendo Revolution! ;-)

[Jellie]

Ps3 without doubt

[Magus]

Yeah, i prbly shoulda had rev in the poll also

[PATMAN]

360 is released first do i gotta go with that

[luthorsmentor]

like i said i'll eventually have them all, but i will get the ps3 then wait for the 360 to work out the bugs and nintendo will be much cheaper than both from the get go not to mention the ability to download the former games from nintendo it's a must have. can't wait to play Super Return of The Jedi again.

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by Magus
I know this thread exists,but couldn't find it anywhere. What do you guys think?

It was on the second page on ksite culture actually;)

[sstray72]

I, like Luthorsmentor, will gradually own them all. I'm not sure which one I'll get first, I'm too broke to get ANY of them right now, but whichever one comes out with the best launch titles will end up with my buy. I know that I MUST have a Revolution, I'd be lost without my Mario. Plus, I can't wait to download Super Metroid. Does anyone know if the downloadable titles will be only Nintendo 1st party titles, or will some of the classic Squaresoft SuperNES RPGs be available for download? I must play FF6 and Chrono Trigger again.

[Xcalibur]

I am gonna buy a revolution just so I can play Zelda and Mario.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

When the Revolution actually comes out, I'll get one of those.

Games from every Nintendo system available for download LEGALLY? I'm there.

[PETER WEST]

I vote for X-Box 360

[zanos]

I'm going to have to go with the PS3 here. If the graphics are as good as promised I don't see the Xbox360 putting up much competition. I've already played call of duty 2 on the Xbox360 and although the graphics are definately improved I was hardly impressed to the point where I must have one.

[Magus]

Originally posted by zanos
I'm going to have to go with the PS3 here. If the graphics are as good as promised I don't see the Xbox360 putting up much competition. I've already played call of duty 2 on the Xbox360 and although the graphics are definately improved I was hardly impressed to the point where I must have one.

What?!! How did you play one?!

[Lt. Figgnuts]

There are a lot of stores that have them out for display purpouses.

The GameStop in my mall has one out, for instance.

[Magus]

U can play on them! That's amazing!

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Well, they exist...and the stores have them...they're just not on sale yet.

[DarkseidX]

Yep like Lt. my EB Games has a 360. Not too impressed either. Looks just like a computer game.

[Magus]

I saw this preview of elder scrolls 4 and it explained how awesome the AI is and the forest is 8 sq miles! So tite! They showed it too, it was so cool!

[PATMAN]

cant wait. 1 More Week!!!

[David Ford, RPD]

My friend jsut won an XBOX 360...he seems pretty happy about it.

[Elite]

it used to be 'playstation has better games' but 'xbox has the gfx'
most say ps3 will be better, but this poll says xbox 360. but then theres also nintendos rev to consider this time (gamecube wasnt competition in the last battle).

how to decide!?!?

[Xcalibur]

Lol.
Dont study it there was another poll made in culture and the ps3 won by a good few votes.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

I just played the 360, I played demo's of Call of duty 2 & King Kong. It was good, the graphics were stunning and call of duty seemed awesome but it doesn't seems like it's worth all the money imho.

[DarkseidX]

The Xbox 360 isn't worth the money or any of it's games.

If you go to gamespot or IGN, they're giving mediocre ratings to most of the games on the launch. The only one that got a decent rating was Call of Duty 2. But that's normal seeing as how it's a series that's gotten a lot of trial and error you'd expect good quality.

This system sucks and in less than a year all the people who own an xbox 360 will be laughed at by those who own a PS3 because it will dominate.

Sony is gonna have enough time to create a sytem worth buying with games worth playing. You see they're being smart.

It's clear to me and to the people at game sites that Microsoft was a bit hasty in releasing early.

All I have to say is that because the Xbox 360 was released so early, Sony will benefit from Microsoft's mistake. Whatever goes wrong with the 360, Sony will make sure their system will not have that problem.

[Jellie]

I agree with you. Ps 3 will dominate

[Magus]

deadlock. sweet

[Xcalibur]

I agree with Dx.
The ps3 is gonna make the 360 look like its a generation behind.

[vikingjedi]

I think the XBox 360 will win the war because PS3 will be going for about $500 when its released and by that time Xbox will be able to lower their price to around $350. Plus they will have a lot more games out too.

[Slade]

PS3 will not sell for 500 dollars. Those rumors are dead.

Sony exec's have stated theyre aiming for a 300 - 400 launch.

My guess is $400 with the bells and whistles to better compete.

The whole reason theyre waiting til next year to release the PS3 is because the cost to make the blu-ray drives will be quite cheaper. :)

Not to mention by then the launch line-up will blow away Microsofts.

I already have the 360 anyways but I know the PS3 will dominate.

[PATMAN]

I dont know if I'm gonna gt the core, and a HD in a week or two, or just get the loaded one

[Magus]

I got my HD ready tv just for this occasion. Comes out tommorrow, but i'm in the 2nd shipment of my local EBX. I don't know when that comes, hopefully by christmas. :)

[Elite]

i wish there was a simple answer to help me decide

[PATMAN]

Oh, I meant Hard Drive by HD. Sorry

[Magus]

Originally posted by Slade
PS3 will not sell for 500 dollars. Those rumors are dead.

Sony exec's have stated theyre aiming for a 300 - 400 launch.

My guess is $400 with the bells and whistles to better compete.

The whole reason theyre waiting til next year to release the PS3 is because the cost to make the blu-ray drives will be quite cheaper. :)

Not to mention by then the launch line-up will blow away Microsofts.

I already have the 360 anyways but I know the PS3 will dominate.
How do you have 360?!

[Lt. Figgnuts]

It came out today.

Lots of places had midnight openings.

[Magus]

Oh. 5 more hours here.

[Lt. Figgnuts]

I think it does come out tomorrow, actually...

...I got mixed up on the day.

Oops. ;)

[DarkseidX]

Why does nobody try make to make a counter-argument against the PS3?

All people are doing is claiming which will be better though what they claim can't be prooven.

Clearly the poll shows that there are more 360 supporters, but why don't any of them try to argue that their system is better? Can they?

[Slade]

Magus...

Connections...connections... :)

Ive had it for a few days with a couple of games.

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by DarkseidX
Why does nobody try make to make a counter-argument against the PS3?

All people are doing is claiming which will be better though what they claim can't be prooven.

Clearly the poll shows that there are more 360 supporters, but why don't any of them try to argue that their system is better? Can they?
Its because they can't.:lol:
Its pretty obvious .

[Magus]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
Its because they can't.:lol:
Its pretty obvious .
So very, very true!
The sony lovers will get PS3 no matter what. The microsoft lovers will get 360 no matter what. And the nintendo lovers...well they might lose customers now that they've released that controller.
LOL :)

[David Ford, RPD]

Originally posted by DarkseidX
Why does nobody try make to make a counter-argument against the PS3?

All people are doing is claiming which will be better though what they claim can't be prooven.

Clearly the poll shows that there are more 360 supporters, but why don't any of them try to argue that their system is better? Can they?

Most critics agree that the PS3's graphics are far better than what the 360 has to offer.

[Magus]

Not at all. This is PS3.
"I have Blu-ray. I sell myself(sexually) to every game maker who wants to get with me. As a result, I have AIDS! The illness shows in my new controller. And squaresoft has been visiting me less often. I hope he doesn't go with microsoft."
Prove it man. The graphics on both systems are so good that at this point it doesn't matter which is better. And 360 is supplying to the masses now. Halo 3 will win against PS3.

[Xcalibur]

Dude bring facts not speculation.:rolleyes:


More than 96 million PlayStation 2 consoles have been sold worldwide since the PS2's debut in 2000, compared with some 25 million Microsoft Xboxes sold since 2001. Even if the new Xbox 360 is a rousing success, as it appears to be, Sony's dominance of the console universe is likely to continue, and there's a powerful new PlayStation coming next year.

Full article.
http://money.cnn.com/2005/11/21/technology/playstation_fortune_112805/


Another thing is that the 360 launched without a killer app.
The ps3 already has MGS4.

[markbot]

i can sense the tables shifting.

MS is gaining momentum in the US for sure.

PS3 won't be as successful. it is not the console for truly hardcore gamers. this cell processor is just good marketing. it's no different from a multi core processor.

the original was going to power the games just with the cell...without the graphics chip...hahah

[Magus]

listen to the markman! :)
The xbox 360 is the machine for hard core gamers, and the PS3 is not the machine for casual gamers. My guess is that the sale of PS2 units will go up. Esp if Sony cuts its prices to $100.

[DarkseidX]

Originally posted by markbot
PS3 won't be as successful. it is not the console for truly hardcore gamers. :lol:

Wait a second lemme get this straight, so only people who own 360's are hardcore gamers?

:rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl:

Let me explain something to you, don't make a generalization about something you know not of.

Oh and Magus, what's wrong with having a lot of games for a system? Last I checked selection was something gamers desired.

Originally posted by Magus
Not at all. This is PS3.
"I have Blu-ray. I sell myself(sexually) to every game maker who wants to get with me. As a result, I have AIDS! The illness shows in my new controller. And squaresoft has been visiting me less often. I hope he doesn't go with microsoft."
Prove it man. The graphics on both systems are so good that at this point it doesn't matter which is better. And 360 is supplying to the masses now. Halo 3 will win against PS3.

Do you honestly think that just because Squaresoft is doing FF11 for the 360 it makes the system somehow any better. Just to fill you in, FF11 sucks absolute balls.

It's embarrassing to even talk about the game.

And BTW, Kingdom Hearts 2 and FF 12 will stay for the PS2. And I assure you both of these games will own any of the games the 360 has right now.

As for the supplying the masses now, that may be so, but read my first post. They're gonners.

As for Halo 3....so what exactly will change about Halo 3....:\

I doubt they'll change anything drastically. The only thing I can honestly see Bungie adding to their game is new weapons.

Yeah there's not much you can change about Halo without ruining the game.

[Xcalibur]

These guys are staing stuff with absolutely no solid facts to back themselves up.
I agree with Darkseid's post 100% btw.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
These guys are staing stuff with absolutely no solid facts to back themselves up.
I agree with Darkseid's post 100% btw.

I agree with the no solid facts bit, IMO I don't know which console is better, no one does, you jsut have to wait and see how it plays out.

[David Ford, RPD]

Originally posted by Magus
Not at all. This is PS3.
"I have Blu-ray. I sell myself(sexually) to every game maker who wants to get with me. As a result, I have AIDS! The illness shows in my new controller. And squaresoft has been visiting me less often. I hope he doesn't go with microsoft."
Prove it man. The graphics on both systems are so good that at this point it doesn't matter which is better. And 360 is supplying to the masses now. Halo 3 will win against PS3.

http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/05/17/xbocps3/index.php

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/662/662656p1.html


http://www.thetechzone.com/?m=show&id=306

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=21032812&page=0

[Magus]

really doesn't matter. They're both so good that it doesn't make a real difference. I'm just loyal to microsoft.
fable and halo and the like. and the fact that good final fantasy games don't exist anymore.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Originally posted by Magus
and the fact that good final fantasy games don't exist anymore.

:eek: I think you may have jsut started a war :lol: (Not with me, never played the games... yet. but X & Dx are veyr loyal FF gamers)

[Magus]

they HAVE stopped making good FF games tho.
The first time i played final fantasy 1 :) It was like i had finally come full circle. I played it after playing 2-9. I still haven't played any PS2 onwards games or the nintendo game. My favorites have to be FF4 and FF5. Shame they never released the original 3 and 5 in the US.

[David Ford, RPD]

Originally posted by Magus
really doesn't matter. They're both so good that it doesn't make a real difference. I'm just loyal to microsoft.
fable and halo and the like. and the fact that good final fantasy games don't exist anymore.

Loyalty is dangerous. The XBOX 360 does look pretty badass, but we still don't know what we're getting with the PS3.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

I'd have to say watching the tech. demo of FF7 for the PS3 it looks better than what I've seen from the 360

[luthorsmentor]

final fantasy X was an awesome game. X-2 was lackluster i'll give you that, and XI is just not my cup of tea, i don't like mmorpgs. i'll get a ps3 when it comes out b/c i know that it will be awesome, i'll wait until fable 2 comes out b/c i know that game will be awesome. how can you say they stopped making good final fantasy games if you haven't even played the last three?

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Originally posted by Magus
they HAVE stopped making good FF games tho.
The first time i played final fantasy 1 :) It was like i had finally come full circle. I played it after playing 2-9. I still haven't played any PS2 onwards games or the nintendo game. My favorites have to be FF4 and FF5. Shame they never released the original 3 and 5 in the US.

How can you say they've stopped making good FF games if you haven't played the latest ones? That jsut makes no sense at all.

[Magus]

I've heard and discussed. I've seen them. I've been told that FFX is just LOTR:The third age(actually, it's the other way around really). They're just too easy i hear. Except tactics. I heard that was hard.

What doesn't make sense is your spelling just, jsut.
:lol:

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Heard and discussed - yeah that is anything to judge a game on, YOU PLAY A GAME to judge it. I thought kingdom hearts was just a stupid Disney game until I actually played it and saw it was far better than that.

That was a typo, the one I make the most actually, I type to fast for my own good.

[Magus]

just joshing you man.
Nah, i got LOTR:TTA and heard that it was just a rip off of FFX. And my best friend who plays a bit better than me has told me they're all ridiculously easy. and that LOTR rpg for xbox was RIDICULOUSLY easy.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Okay.

Still you should play FFX before you say it's not good.

[Magus]

Aright.
I don't feel like getting into a debate now tho.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

I think your a little late to say that, what have we been doing for the last few posts? Debating :lol:

[DarkseidX]

Magus you seem to have dropped your guard!!

You shoulda kept fighting for the 360 instead criticising our FF Series. IMO the PS2 takes no role in this debate. Afterall it is an OLD GEN. Therefore whatever games came out for the PS1 and PS2 have absolutely no relevance to this debate.

tsk tsk tsk

[Magus]

Originally posted by DarkseidX
Magus you seem to have dropped your guard!!
tsk tsk tsk
I must redouble my efforts! Blue Dragon is the future of RPGs. The creators of chrono trigger makin a next gen rpg for 360! Gotta kick ass. And Fable 2 if it ever happens.

[Shadowknight]

Xbox 360, I waited at Wal-Mart for 10 hours to get mine....even though chance's are I will do the same thing for PS3:lol:

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by Magus
I must redouble my efforts! Blue Dragon is the future of RPGs. The creators of chrono trigger makin a next gen rpg for 360! Gotta kick ass. And Fable 2 if it ever happens.

You lost this debate a long time ago.

[krpto]

look at the prices on ebay for the xbox 360 people r going nuts.

[PATMAN]

Anyone know anywhere that is still selling 360's off-or-online

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
You lost this debate a long time ago.

I agree he did lose it awhile back.

[Magus]

whatever.
PS3 markets to the casual gamer. as such, they obviously have more people buying their consoles. But xbox 360 is gonna have much more as far as exclusives and challenging rpgs go. It all depends on what u look for in ur system. plus, PS3 WILL be more expensive than xbox 360. I mean, casual gamers can still get xbox 360 for just $300. and blue dragon WILL be amazing.

[DarkseidX]

Originally posted by Magus
I must redouble my efforts! Blue Dragon is the future of RPGs. The creators of chrono trigger makin a next gen rpg for 360! Gotta kick ass. And Fable 2 if it ever happens. Ay great argument!!!:)

Though I don't know about Fable 2...

[Magus]

can't tell if ur sarcastic.
Damn internet, with its non emotional capabilities!
If u are not sarcastic, :)

[k18]

I think I am pretty much done with new consoles. I have my PS2 and will stick with that forever or at least until it becomes obsolete. But if I had to choose between XBox 360 and PS3, then I would go for PS3 just because I like playstation and don't want to try anything new (I don't like change very much).

[DarkseidX]

Originally posted by Magus
whatever.
PS3 markets to the casual gamer. as such, they obviously have more people buying their consoles. But xbox 360 is gonna have much more as far as exclusives and challenging rpgs go. It all depends on what u look for in ur system. plus, PS3 WILL be more expensive than xbox 360. I mean, casual gamers can still get xbox 360 for just $300. and blue dragon WILL be amazing. How do you know that the 360 will have more challenging RPG's? Do you have a crystal ball that tells you what games will come out for the PS3.

And BTW, just because the PS3 markets to a casual gamer doesn't make everyone who owns a 360 a HARDCORE gamer. It also doesn't mean that everyone who will own a PS3 wont be a hardcore gamer.

Look we'll leave at this, Blue Dragon has a great chance of being a great game. However it's very possible that it turns out to be a dissapointment.

As for what system is for hardcore gamers...yep there is none. All systems are cool. Xbox 360 will surely shine when Resident Evil 5 is released it'll shine when Halo 3 comes out.

As for the PS3....well we can only what treasures Sony has up it's sleeve. No speculation in the world can give a precise answer of what the system will offer. All I can say is because of the lack of good games in the 360 RIGHT NOW, and because of the great experience I had with my PS2, I can put my faith on the PS3.

Originally posted by Magus
can't tell if ur sarcastic.
Damn internet, with its non emotional capabilities!
If u are not sarcastic, :) No I wasn't being sarcastic, I was glad that you were putting facts before specualtion.

[luthorsmentor]

hardcore gamers=gamers who play games on all systems and aren't just a fanboy of one. get em all, they are all going to have their share of gems and their share of flops.

[DarkseidX]

AMEN to that one broda.

[Magus]

i don't hate PS, i just don't like their brand of games. I prefer microsoft. really i prefer nintendo, but that seemed to go downhill after N64.

[DarkseidX]

You know what I think, I think that despite the crap that the revolution has been getting it's the only system that's pulling out originality.

It'd be cool if the PS3 offered to download old PS1 or PS2 games but welll I doubt it will.

I still enjoy playing Super Mario and all of those Nintendo games. They kick major ass. The system will make it.

[Magus]

nintendo NEEDS a revival. it's too good of a company to let go to waste. I still prefer goldeneye to halo. AH, the memories goldeneye brings back.
Well, i'll be back tomorrow.

[k18]

Wow, you must have been young during the Goldeneye age. I think I was in middle school when that game came out.

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by Magus
i don't hate PS, i just don't like their brand of games. I prefer microsoft. really i prefer nintendo, but that seemed to go downhill after N64.

You dont like
Metal Gear solid?
Tekken?
Soul Calibur?
Devil May cry?
Final fantasy?
Kingdom hearts?
Resident evil?
Ratchet and clan?
Jak and daxter?
Katamari Damacy
GTA?
etc.

Gimme a break!!!!!!!:eek:

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Originally posted by Magus
nintendo NEEDS a revival. it's too good of a company to let go to waste. I still prefer goldeneye to halo. AH, the memories goldeneye brings back.
Well, i'll be back tomorrow.

Your just thinking of the western market, nintendo does much better than the Sony & Miscrosoft machine over in japan, china, etc.

Originally posted by Xcalibur
You dont like
Metal Gear solid?
Tekken?
Soul Calibur?
Devil May cry?
Final fantasy?
Kingdom hearts?
Resident evil?
Ratchet and clan?
Jak and daxter?
Katamari Damacy
GTA?
etc.

Gimme a break!!!!!!!:eek:

Even though you didn't ask me...

Hell no
Gimme a break tekken is crap now
Soul calibur = Craporama
No
Never played them
Yeah
Nope
Nope
Nope
Nope
Yes but they are gonig downhill

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
Your just thinking of the western market, nintendo does much better than the Sony & Miscrosoft machine over in japan, china, etc.



Even though you didn't ask me...

Hell no
Gimme a break tekken is crap now
Soul calibur = Craporama
No
Never played them
Yeah
Nope
Nope
Nope
Nope
Yes but they are gonig downhill

No sony isnumber one in sales everywhere in the golbe.
Its slightly better than nintendo in asia.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Oh okay, well it still does far better over there than over here, my point was nintendo are still doing fine.

[Xcalibur]

Lol and sony is even beating xbox in their strongest market also.
the US.
I think it was 40million to 20 million in sony's favour.

[sstray72]

Originally posted by luthorsmentor
hardcore gamers=gamers who play games on all systems and aren't just a fanboy of one. get em all, they are all going to have their share of gems and their share of flops.

DAMN RIGHT. Each system will have it's benefits. As soon as I can afford it, I shall own all three, and I shall be one happy mo fo. I'll admit that I'm a Nintendo fanboy, but I'd be crazy to say that Splinter Cell was better on any system than the xbox.

[Daphne]

I would like both. But I have mostly played Playstations and like them a lot.

[Magus]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
You dont like
Metal Gear solid?
Tekken?
Soul Calibur?
Devil May cry?
Final fantasy?
Kingdom hearts?
Resident evil?
Ratchet and clan?
Jak and daxter?
Katamari Damacy
GTA?
etc.

Gimme a break!!!!!!!:eek:
nope
nope
nope
nope
yes but they're not hard anymore
nope
no
hell no
hell no
no
nope, but i think i'm the only one

this discussion isn't getting us anymore

[luthorsmentor]

you're not the only one that isn't a big GTA fan. though i do like a few games of similar genres such as True Crime and The Getaway even though they both ripped off the GTA engine.

[Magus]

ah! reinforcements! :)

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by Magus
ah! reinforcements! :)

This isnt a thread about GTA so how could he be reinforcements?

[luthorsmentor]

that and i'm also one of the final fantasy nuts that contributes to this thread. i'll own the ps3 before the xbox 360 and the main reason is that i love the final fantasy series.

[Magus]

c. PS gets a sizeable chunk of their gamers from final fantasy. once square starts developing for xbox 360 and mystwalker starts releasing games for 360, it'll be awesome

[Jellie]

I was reading your posts about metal gear solid. This was my favorite playsation game at the time. It was something special. I didnt think any gamer would dislike this game

And what about resident evil. Why didnt that get a mention. Another landmark for sony. I loved this game

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by Magus
c. PS gets a sizeable chunk of their gamers from final fantasy. once square starts developing for xbox 360 and mystwalker starts releasing games for 360, it'll be awesome


You obviously have no knowledge of video games or about the consoles to be making statements like you just did.If you are gonna make a post you should have facts to back it up and not just saying what you think is gonna happen.


I was reading your posts about metal gear solid. This was my favorite playsation game at the time. It was something special. I didnt think any gamer would dislike this game

I guess to each his own jellie.

[Jellie]

Yeah to each his own is true. I personally thought it was great

[Xcalibur]

I along with the tens of millions who bought the games also thought it was great.Along with the critics who said that it was one of the best game series' out there.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

I thought it was crap.

[Magus]

critics are rarely right.
and hey xcalibur, maybe if u got off ur high horse u would c that different people think different things. it's ok that u like PS3 and i don't. I'm just saying that with Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey coming out as 360 exclusives in the next year or two, Microsoft is gonna stage a major comeback on the RPG front.

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by TMLS' BROTHER
I thought it was crap.

Good for you:)

[Elite]

heres a link which tells you all about each console and why you should buy it (3 pages):

http://www.gamesradar.com/features/default.asp?siteid=60&sectiontypeid=8&subsectionid=1634&articleid=38095&pagetypeid=2&page=1

[PATMAN]

These backups are so retarded. All the Best Buys, Walmarts(5 of them) Target, Toys R Us, Circuit City, Fye.... I dont bother with EB or Gamestop, cause they only sell to those with preorders, an we wont get ours till March.

All the stores I mentioned before said ON LAUNCH DAY, we will Guarantee some in two weeks. Well today marks two weeks, and to my non-suprise, there are none. The Target man said thy had not been informed and had no idea. Walmart (all 5) said the same 2-3 weeks bit, Toys R Us sounded like they didnt know what an Xbox was, Circuit City said tomorrow(B.S.) and Best Buy said expect the 20th (two more weeks). These people are hypocrites and it is ridiculous. PS3 definently won't have this problem.

[Magus]

my best buy doesn't do pre orders. they're getting a new shipment on dec.18 and i plan to be there to get my 360 before christmas :)
And also, i've posted the link about how PS3 is might be postponed till 2007 on the 360 vs. PS3 thread in ksite culture. Just google PS3 2007 to get the story.

[luthorsmentor]

so i was watching tv the other day and both my wife and my son saw this commercial and before it was over they asked me if it was a trailer for final fantasy XII saying that it looked like final fantasy X, I explained to them before it was over that it was the trailer for DOA4 for xbox 360. they both shrugged and said, "oh, well it still looks like Final Fantasy" so the point is, Xbox 360's next gen graphics engine looks "so good" that two people thought it looked like something that came out on ps2 three years ago.

[Xcalibur]

Brilliant point luthersmentor .

[Slade]

Even though Revolution isnt really a part of this poll, Id like to add that its been recently rumored by developers that the launch price will be about $149 American.

[sstray72]

$149!!! :eek: :eek:

I hope so!! That would be awesome, I was gonna get one any way, hell I'm getting all of em!!

Being a fanboy doesn't pay, jabronis.

[TMLS]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
You obviously have no knowledge of video games

Is this your standard response, X? Someone has an opinion on something or some facts you don't have so therefore they must have no knowledge? That's rather pretentious, I must say.

I can't see anything wrong with Magus's comment. There are a "fair" chunk of PS Gamers because of FF, especially when you take Japan into account.

Sqauare ARE rumoured to be developing for the 360, and if that happens then surely Mystwalker is the next logical one to go down that route.

Chill out man.

[Magus]

Originally posted by TMLS
Is this your standard response, X? Someone has an opinion on something or some facts you don't have so therefore they must have no knowledge? That's rather pretentious, I must say.

I can't see anything wrong with Magus's comment. There are a "fair" chunk of PS Gamers because of FF, especially when you take Japan into account.

Sqauare ARE rumoured to be developing for the 360, and if that happens then surely Mystwalker is the next logical one to go down that route.

Chill out man.
Thank you! That guy's been on my case this entire discussion. Slade man, you serious! That price will do wonders for the rev if people know about it before they decide to buy a PS3 or 360. The price could very likely tip the casual gamer over the edge to get a rev.

[luthorsmentor]

i'm getting em all, but at that price the revolution will definitely be the first one i get.

[Jellie]

I will play them all but im only forking out my cash for a silver shiny ps3

[Magus]

fair enough

[k18]

I'm getting neither. I'm satisfied with my PS2.

[Slade]

I have a 360 but only to hold me down until I get the uber 1337 PS3.

Revolution I may get if it truly launches at like 149 or less.

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by TMLS
Is this your standard response, X? Someone has an opinion on something or some facts you don't have so therefore they must have no knowledge? That's rather pretentious, I must say.

I can't see anything wrong with Magus's comment. There are a "fair" chunk of PS Gamers because of FF, especially when you take Japan into account.

Sqauare ARE rumoured to be developing for the 360, and if that happens then surely Mystwalker is the next logical one to go down that route.

Chill out man.


I'm not gonna bother with the personal stuff cuz its off topic.
What I will say is.

Magus's comment is wrong.
And for you to agree certainly shows your knowledge as well.
Firstly FFX the only main FF to come out for the ps2 sold about 7-8 million units.The ps2 has sold over 100 million units.
"Fair chunk"?....not really.
Plus its not like the people would just turn their back on the PS3 just because they lost one game.

See what I mean.
Square are rumouring........please Nasa is rumouring to have captured aliens on mars.so what?
Its pathetic that people have to only be counting on rumours to support their case.They are making one game.
FFXI...
Because FF XI sucks since
1.You need a Supercomputer to run it
2. there is a subscription fee

They put it on the 360 because there is no subscription fee.
Most FF fans don't even consider that game to be a real FF.

Plus its a game that is 3 years or so old and thats what the Xbox fans are getting happy about.

As usual I'm bring facts not silly rumours.
It would be great if you guys could do the same.

btw you last comment about mystwalker made no sense.

[Magus]

kinda like that whole post.
please, let's not weigh ourselves down with absolutes like "Magus's comment is wrong"
Stop putting people down man!
'And for you to agree certainly shows your knowledge as well'
what ur going at is border line flaming.
Let's not turn this into a personal battle, it's just a discussion. In any case, u said ur gonna buy both anyways didn't you?
:)

[PATMAN]

Any word on 360's second shipment? All we have gotten is the launch day supplies.

[Magus]

depends where u live. my local eb games is getting their 2nd shipment on the 18th.

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by Magus
kinda like that whole post.
please, let's not weigh ourselves down with absolutes like "Magus's comment is wrong"
Stop putting people down man!
'And for you to agree certainly shows your knowledge as well'
what ur going at is border line flaming.
Let's not turn this into a personal battle, it's just a discussion. In any case, u said ur gonna buy both anyways didn't you?
:)

Cool.
Thanks for saying that my whole post made no sense then.
Makes me wonder If you have even read it.
And no i'm not flaming .

[Magus]

I foyu?
LOL
jk man, :)

[luthorsmentor]

yes, it will be a huge advantage for PS3 to be coming out almost a year after Xbox 360 has launched. Xbox has better graphics and faster load times than most games on a PS2 yes, that is true and not really debatable. PS2 just has more games available and owning both i'd say that the Playstation controller is a little more user friendly. by delaying their release they will be sure to have graphics at the very least equal to the 360 but most likely superior.

[Magus]

ur right. no matter what people tell u, the xbox is just more powerful than the PS2 in that area. and even tho PS3 does have better graphics than xbox 360, though it's such a marginal difference in power that it hardly matters, the 360 is a better package with free xbox live silver edition, built in arcade games, text messaging with other 360 users, and just an all together better package.

[UDStyle]

xbox360 over ps3 anyday of the week.. even friday nights!

[Magus]

amen to that! UD, u r my new best friend.
lol.
now just help me convince these guys.
we have a tie again! :)

[Xcalibur]

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3146229

Yawn.

So much for the rumoured delay.

[Magus]

it'll be on schedule in only japan most likely.
99% sure it'll be a fall release here. which means dropped price for the 360 in order to compete vs. the full priced PS3. no matter how u phrase ur argument, the 360 will have the economic advantage, which will appeal to the masses.
And don't yawn, it's just childish.

[Xcalibur]

Sony on Thursday said it remained on track to roll out its PlayStation 3 game console by spring 2006 despite industry speculation that the scheduled launch could face delays.

The timing of the release of Sony's updated PlayStation console has become a matter of speculation in the $25 billion video game industry and among the studios, hardware makers and other companies looking to handicap the battle over next-generation DVD technology.

A spokesman for Sony, the No. 1 provider of game consoles, said it was still targeting a spring 2006 launch for the PS3, which is key to maintaining its lead in the game console market against Microsoft, which recently launched its competing Xbox 360 console.

Larry Probst, chief executive of the No. 1 video game publisher Electronic Arts, said last week that he believed Sony's console would not be available until fall 2006.

The PS3 also is central to Sony's push of Blu-ray, its next-generation DVD technology, against a rival DVD format known as HD DVD, created by a Toshiba-led group.

Billions of dollars are at stake in the DVD format war as movie studios and electronics makers gear up for a technology change they hope will send consumers back to buy new players and discs that will play high-definition pictures.

Failure to reach a unified front has paved the way for a standards war between Blu-ray and HD DVD, reminiscent of the VHS-Betamax clash decades ago, which confused buyers and turned into an expensive loss for many companies.

Many industry insiders have expected that splashy launch of Sony's PS3 console to give Blu-ray an edge and deliver a huge base of players for Hollywood studios looking to sell compatible DVDs.

[Magus]

well the link u posted said that it was expected in fall for the U.S.

[TMLS]

First chance I've had to reply to this.

Originally posted by Xcalibur
I'm not gonna bother with the personal stuff cuz its off topic.

Well, why use personal stuff like accusing someone of having no knowledge in the first place? Don't dish it out if you can't take it back.


What I will say is.

Magus's comment is wrong.
And for you to agree certainly shows your knowledge as well.

What happened to personal stuff being "off topic"?

Firstly FFX the only main FF to come out for the ps2 sold about 7-8 million units.The ps2 has sold over 100 million units.
"Fair chunk"?....not really.
Plus its not like the people would just turn their back on the PS3 just because they lost one game.

Both Magus and I said "PS" gamers, not PS2. So that takes in all PS gamers on the whole (this thread is about PS3, so "PSGamers" must be the other two systems, since there are NO PS3Gamers yet!), be they on the PS1 and PS2 and I think you'll find that FFVII had a massive impact on the PS1 sales. FACT.

See what I mean.
Square are rumouring........please Nasa is rumouring to have captured aliens on mars.so what?

No, I didn't say "Square" are rumouring it, but that it is rumoured that Square are about to announce it. These rumours are on many of the major gaming sites and appear to have a foundation in the real world. Most likely it is in fact Square testing the waters to see how the public would react to them broadening their output.

Its pathetic that people have to only be counting on rumours to support their case.

There you go, being personal again. It's hardly pathetic to comment on rumours. - if we didn't comment on them and waited for fact all the time it'd be a very boring world in my opinion. Not once was the "rumour" stated as fact.

They are making one game.
FFXI...
Because FF XI sucks since
1.You need a Supercomputer to run it
2. there is a subscription fee

They put it on the 360 because there is no subscription fee.
Most FF fans don't even consider that game to be a real FF.

Plus its a game that is 3 years or so old and thats what the Xbox fans are getting happy about.

As usual I'm bring facts not silly rumours.
It would be great if you guys could do the same.

No, as long as the rumours are stated as such, what's the problem? A lot of information relating to the PS3 is purely rumour at the moment and will be until it is fully presented and released.

btw you last comment about mystwalker made no sense.

Then you obviously don't work in a business environment and I won't waste my time explaining.

[Magus]

ah, the sweet taste of retribution.
but this is a thread about discussing the PS3 and 360, not a personal battle.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Originally posted by Magus
ah, the sweet taste of retribution.
but this is a thread about discussing the PS3 and 360, not a personal battle.

He was talking about things concerning the PS3 which would be a part of the 360 vs. PS3 debate, and I'm sure my brother's jsut debating not having a personal battle.

[Magus]

we're not talking about ur brother. we're talking about xcalibur.
but we should be talking about PS3 vs. Xbox 360

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Oh i see... well then I agree.

Ummm PS3 is gonna rule oevr the 360! ... happy now? :p

[DarkseidX]

EDITED

[Jellie]

DX what makes you chief commander of all things in this thread?

I agree though sony ps3 will kick xbox360 ass all day long

[DarkseidX]

I'm not saying I'm commander. I'm saying that whenever I leave, the xbox 360 supporters pull out the speculation card that no one on the pro-ps3 side chooses to oppose.

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by Jellie
DX what makes you chief commander of all things in this thread?

I agree though sony ps3 will kick xbox360 ass all day long

Lol.
Chief commander.:lol:

I'm not saying I'm commander. I'm saying that whenever I leave, the xbox 360 supporters pull out the speculation card that no one on the pro-ps3 side chooses to oppose.
I agree.



ah, the sweet taste of retribution.
What does this have to do with a ps3 vs xbox 360 thread?

In case anyone didn't know the specifications of the ps3.

Playstation 3
Manufacturer: Sony
Release date: Q2 of 2006
Launch titles: Unknown

Processor- Developed by IBM/ Toshiba/ Sony
-"Cell Processor" (234 Million transistors, 90nm)
-PowerPC--Base core 3.2GHz
-7x SPE 3.2GHz
-512KB L2 Cache
-7x 256KB SRAM for SPE | Firm hardware level security
-2.18 TeraFlops

Graphics- Developed by Nvidia
-RSX "Reality Synthesizer" @550MHz (300 Million transistors, 90nm)
-100 billion shader operations per second
-Multi-way parallel FP shader pipelines
-Independent Vertex/ Pixel Shaders
-Full HD Resolution: (2000x1000) 2x channels
-Up to 1080p (progressive)

Memory-
-256MB XDR main RAM @3.2GHz
-256MB GDDR3 V-RAM @700MHz
Detachable 2.5" HDD slot

Bandwith-
-25.6GBs XDR memory bandwith
-22.4GBs V-RAM bandwith
-20GBs(write) + 15GBs(read) for RSX
-2.5GBs(write) + 2.5GBs(read) for SB

Communication-
-GigaBit Ethernet (External 1x, Internal 2x)
-Built in Wi-Fi 802.11 b l g
-Bluetooth (Up to 7 controllers)

Disc Media-
-Playstation | Playstation 2 | Playstation 3
-CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RWSACD, DualDisc
-SACD, DualDisc
-DVD-VIdeo, DVD-ROM, DVD-R
-DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD+RW
-blu-ray video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE
-2.5in removable Hard Drive (Unknown Size)

Digital Media-
-Digital Audio
-Digital Video
-Digital Photograph
-Computer Entertainment
-Video Communication
-Internet Access

More Specifications-
-USB 2.0 port (front 4x, rear 2x)
-Memory Stick, SD card slot 1x
-CompactFlash Slot 1x
-HDMI (Digital Audio/Video) output 2x
-AV Multi Output 1x
-Digital Audio Output (SPDIF) 1x

[Magus]

Really this thread is getting us nowhere. We've all, already made up our minds as to what we're going to do. And for the record, I agree that PS3's specs are FRACTIONALLY better, but at that point it doesn't matter.I like the xbox 360 better as a package.

[Xcalibur]

Wait.
Fractionally better?

[TMLS]

The thread's PS3, but the wording suggested a bigger picture, hence that statement.

At the end of the day, you can stuff your PS3 and the 360, I'm getting a Revolution...

[Xcalibur]

I'm getting one as well.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

I'm getting them all so this debate is pointless to me really :lol:

[Magus]

lol.
c, it doesn't even matter anymore. just by the demographics random people who want to buy their kids something nice will prbly buy their kids xbox 360 since it's coming out around christmas.

[Slade]

Magus this is for you my friend :D

http://xcast.ytmnd.com/#

[floydfan]

I'm in with the Xbox 360, first 'cause I already have the Xbox and it's incredible, I'm not really a PS fan... anyway, i can get the emulator for my Xbox :D

[Whiteshadow]

I heard from a friend that their fixing the controller of the PS3 but i dont know if thats true....oh by the PS3 is way better than XBOX 360

But in my Opinion the Revolution is gonna change the history of gaming. Revolution all the way up.

[PATMAN]

how will it change gaming? By making a ridiculous controller that far to many people will lose in thir couch cushions by sitting on it

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Originally posted by PATMAN
how will it change gaming? By making a ridiculous controller that far to many people will lose in thir couch cushions by sitting on it

I think he was talking about the online backwards compatibility.

[DarkseidX]

The controller of the revolution is a big gag.:lol:

[Shadowknight]

I found an Interesting article in my Game Informer magazine. I thought you guy's might wanna hear it.

Analysts Predict a 360 win/PSP Hard Drive

Industry Analysts from Piper Jaffray are busy predicting the future of Video Games. Their latest report says through 2008 the Xbox 360 will lead the console war with 19.6 million unit's, with Sony's PS3 trailing at 15.5 million. Piper Jaffray's outlook of the Revolution isn't that good, with the system only selling 5 million unit's.

That's basiclly it, they also talk about a Second Edition PSP that will include a Hard drive that can store thing's such as music.

[Magus]

well let's hope that analysts are right. I played the CoD2 demo at my BestBuy and was SO impressed. It blew my mind.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by Shadowknight
Industry Analysts from Piper Jaffray are busy predicting the future of Video Games. Their latest report says through 2008 the Xbox 360 will lead the console war with 19.6 million unit's, with Sony's PS3 trailing at 15.5 million. Piper Jaffray's outlook of the Revolution isn't that good, with the system only selling 5 million unit's.
Cool - they can predict the actual number of consoles sold. So where can I put my bet down?
Originally posted by DarkseidX
The controller of the revolution is a big gag.:lol:
I always wondered - what exactly were people expecting? A standard, two-handed controller? Hardly revolutionary.

Although if it had been some disc that spins around your head while you hallucinate and experience seizures in, that would have been cool too.

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by Shadowknight
I found an Interesting article in my Game Informer magazine. I thought you guy's might wanna hear it.

Analysts Predict a 360 win/PSP Hard Drive

Industry Analysts from Piper Jaffray are busy predicting the future of Video Games. Their latest report says through 2008 the Xbox 360 will lead the console war with 19.6 million unit's, with Sony's PS3 trailing at 15.5 million. Piper Jaffray's outlook of the Revolution isn't that good, with the system only selling 5 million unit's.

That's basiclly it, they also talk about a Second Edition PSP that will include a Hard drive that can store thing's such as music.


lets see a link to your source.
I find that very hard to believe.

The ps2 is out selling the xbox by almost 70 million consoles in this generation.

[Jellie]

For once X I am with you 100% on this.

[foreverSV]

I go with the ps3 100% because of the bad things ive heard about the 360.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
I find that very hard to believe.

The ps2 is out selling the xbox by almost 70 million consoles in this generation.
That's because PS2 was released first. This time, the XBox 360 got the jump on all the new consoles.

[TMLS' BROTHER]

Originally posted by j03superbat
That's because PS2 was released first. This time, the XBox 360 got the jump on all the new consoles.

The Xbox was only 1 year behind the PS2, I don't think the Xbox would even have sold as many units even if it was released at the same time as the PS2 ;)

[j03superbat]

I personally don't think the Xbox 360 will do better than the PS3 either - but then, I too am getting the Revolution.

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by j03superbat
That's because PS2 was released first. This time, the XBox 360 got the jump on all the new consoles.

uih huh.

You ever hear of the dreamcast?

[Shadowknight]

I scanned the page from my GI and got the image with the article here http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a43/Shadoqknight906/proof.jpg

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
uh huh.

You ever hear of the dreamcast?
Sega just had bad timing. The Dreamcast was its own thing - never intended to be in the next-generation console war. Virtual Boy didn't catch on either, but it wasn't supposed to be the next Game Boy or the next Nintendo console.

The anticipated three were PS2, Xbox, and GameCube. PS2 came out first, sold a bunch of units, and is promoted the most to this day.

[Slade]

Originally posted by j03superbat
Sega just had bad timing. The Dreamcast was its own thing - never intended to be in the next-generation console war. Virtual Boy didn't catch on either, but it wasn't supposed to be the next Game Boy or the next Nintendo console.

The anticipated three were PS2, Xbox, and GameCube. PS2 came out first, sold a bunch of units, and is promoted the most to this day.

Ummm, Dreamcast was supposed to be next gen. It was an anticipated console. It was hyped. But because it was out first it had inferior hardware *cough*360*cough*.

The Dreamcast was an awesome system even if it wasnt very powerful. It just didnt have the support.

The 360 doesnt have as much support as the PS3 either, especially among the japanese developers, who happen to be very very ummm very important to a console's success.

Dont forget that the Dreamcast came out with an inferior drive as well. It used, I believe a 1.6 gig GD-ROM drive, while the PS2 was coming out with the DVD drive 4.7gig/9gig.

The Xbox 360 uses regular DVDS(4.7gig/9gig) while the PS3 uses a blu-ray drive which has the potential to hold up 100 gigs of data. Most discs will be single layer though at 25gigs which is still quite a bit more.

The significance of the bigger storage is bigger and more graphically intense textures and backgrounds. It allows for more efficient and engaging AI as well.

Be ready to see games on the 360 come out on multiple DVD-Roms.

Like I said before both will be good, but PS3 is the superior in almost every way except maybe the online aspect.

I have the 360 but I cant wait for the PS3.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by Slade
Ummm, Dreamcast was supposed to be next gen. It was an anticipated console. It was hyped. But because it was out first it had inferior hardware *cough*360*cough*.

The Dreamcast was an awesome system even if it wasnt very powerful. It just didnt have the support.
I didn't realize it was that anticipated because like you said, it wasn't as powerful as the three systems that followed it. Frankly, I thought of it the same way I do the 360 now - the graphics were prettier, more seamless, but didn't quite achieve the NEXT level of realism I was expecting.

Like I said before, I too expect the PS3 to outsell and outperform the 360. But the reason PS2 did as well as it did was because it came out first. If Xbox had come out before PS2 (mind you, same system specs and all) it might have done even better.

[Magus]

I've played 360. CoD2 is amazing.

[DarkseidX]

Originally posted by j03superbat
Sega just had bad timing. The Dreamcast was its own thing - never intended to be in the next-generation console war. Very true.

[Xcalibur]

Yep there have been reports of bugs in the system.

Originally posted by Slade
Ummm, Dreamcast was supposed to be next gen. It was an anticipated console. It was hyped. But because it was out first it had inferior hardware *cough*360*cough*.

The Dreamcast was an awesome system even if it wasnt very powerful. It just didnt have the support.

The 360 doesnt have as much support as the PS3 either, especially among the japanese developers, who happen to be very very ummm very important to a console's success.

Dont forget that the Dreamcast came out with an inferior drive as well. It used, I believe a 1.6 gig GD-ROM drive, while the PS2 was coming out with the DVD drive 4.7gig/9gig.

The Xbox 360 uses regular DVDS(4.7gig/9gig) while the PS3 uses a blu-ray drive which has the potential to hold up 100 gigs of data. Most discs will be single layer though at 25gigs which is still quite a bit more.

The significance of the bigger storage is bigger and more graphically intense textures and backgrounds. It allows for more efficient and engaging AI as well.

Be ready to see games on the 360 come out on multiple DVD-Roms.

Like I said before both will be good, but PS3 is the superior in almost every way except maybe the online aspect.

I have the 360 but I cant wait for the PS3.

indeed.

It would take some sort of miracle for the xbox 360 to even come close to the ps3 in terms of sales i think.

[Shadowknight]

Well, I am pretty frustrated atm, seem's my 360 was one of the 3% that were defective. I called Microsoft and they said that a box will be sent to me within tomorrow and they will overnight it there and back for repair's they said I should have it back by Friday.

Still.....I already miss coD2 :(

[Xcalibur]

I guess its a risk you take when you buy a console right at launch.

[Magus]

i don't think the defects are a big problem, and microsoft will reimburse you if it happens.

[Shadowknight]

Yeah, I should be getting it back today/Next couple of days. I think it happens with every launch, same thing happened with my PS2 when I got it at launch :\

[Magus]

hah! but they didn't make a big fuss about it when it was sony!

[Shadowknight]

Yeah, I sent it in and Sony didint send it back for a month....

[Magus]

glad to hear not everyone on this thread is a hardcore sony fan.

[Xcalibur]

Oh please...

[Shadowknight]

I like Sony, I don't really have a Fanboy base for anything. I play what is fun

[Slade]

Originally posted by Shadowknight
I like Sony, I don't really have a Fanboy base for anything. I play what is fun

I completely agree. Thats why Ive owned pretty much every video game system since the NES. I just feel the PS3 will be superior in every way. :D

Oh ya, I had a Virtual Boy. That thing was awesome til it gave you mini-seizures. :D

[RJK62284]

Canlt wait for the PS3 it's going to be sweet!

[DarkseidX]

Originally posted by Magus
glad to hear not everyone on this thread is a hardcore sony fan. Hey there! No need to start sparks!:)

I think everyone can agree that both Sony and Microsoft has there defects.

And true, every new console has it's set of problems that are eventually solved in time.

However, that's part of the reason I believe the PS3 will triumph over the 360.
Because any problems Microsoft has with its machine, Sony will make sure the PS3 won't have those problems.

[Rafael122]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060219/bs_nm/electronics_sony_dc

PS 3 might be delayed 6 to 12 months and opening price will be $900. Whatever...ain't no way I'm spending $1,000 on a game console. And 3 years after release, it might fall to $320...which is still expensive.

[Jellie]

You must have misread it. It says it will cost sony $900 to produce one machine and the price will drop to $320 after 3 years

[Rafael122]

Originally posted by Jellie
You must have misread it. It says it will cost sony $900 to produce one machine and the price will drop to $320 after 3 years

Jeez, I did mis-read that. Oh well...it's still gonna be $500 as the opening price isn't it?

[Another-One]

The opening price will be 399 - 450 american.

[redraven]

I picked X360...mainly b/c I'm biased against well, a lot of stuff from Sony...and PS3 is supposed to cost a lot, well at least more than Xbox360.

[Keyblade]

Originally posted by redraven
I picked X360...mainly b/c I'm biased against well, a lot of stuff from Sony...and PS3 is supposed to cost a lot, well at least more than Xbox360.

PS3:

$499 w/ a 20gb hard drive
$599 w/ a 60gb hard drive

It was annouced today.

[redraven]

Oh. Well that is still a lot more if you only get a core 360.

[DarkseidX]

Originally posted by redraven
Oh. Well that is still a lot more if you only get a core 360. But it's better.;)

[redraven]

I guess I'll reevaluate my opinion once the PS3 comes out...I've played the 360 and I think it's great, I haven't had any problems with it...so that's why I'm going to stick with teh Xbox360 until I play the other console. :)

[1.21 gigawatts]

Originally posted by Keyblade
PS3:

$499 w/ a 20gb hard drive
$599 w/ a 60gb hard drive

It was annouced today.

Well great. Time for me to start saving. :rolleyes:

[DarkseidX]

Originally posted by 1.21 gigawatts
Well great. Time for me to start saving. :rolleyes: Yeah I hear ya bro. I was gonna buy some games for the xbos when I realised that I should reallt just start saving for the PS3 games which I imagine are gonna be expensive at the launch.

What I can'r wait for is Killzone 2. That looks like it's gonna be dope.

[boyde92]

ps3 rocks 360 SuCk...bad

[Dejected_Angel]

Originally posted by boyde92
ps3 rocks 360 SuCk...bad

This is certainly true.

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by M.D.
Sweet. I definitely want to hear about the FF7 remake..

There isn't one... I wish people would understand that. Why remake a mediocre game anyway? The sequels are enough.

[constantine]

Personally, I might end up cracking the PS3 out of the box just so I can play bluray disks, but it certainly doesn't have any games that interest me. Different demographics you see? the PS3 is aimed at a different core audience to the 360, and the release titles will reflect and dictate that.

Truth be told, I actually play red steel and wii sports more than my 360 at the moment anyway

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by Luffy
end of crisis core gives a hint at the remake ... apprently.

I'll get Crisis Core when it's re-released for PS2, which most PSP games are doing because the PSP just doesn't sell as well as the DS does.

[j03superbat]

Originally posted by constantine
Truth be told, I actually play red steel and wii sports more than my 360 at the moment anyway
Really? Red Steel? I heard it was... less than stellar.

[Mello Penelo]

Ok, so I just found out this supposed "hint at a FF7 remake" in Crisis Core. All it says is "Continued in FF7." FF7 is already out. Of course it's continued. Finish Crisis Core, then replay FF7.

[constantine]

Originally posted by j03superbat
Really? Red Steel? I heard it was... less than stellar.

part of my enjoyment is taking turns with my nephew. It's always a laugh watching him play

[constantine]

yeah but like mello said...why remake a game that's essentially part of an altogether mediocre series? I mean each story is essentially the same anyway...same characters, same format...same combat system...

[constantine]

Aren't we getting defensive?

[constantine]

Well actually, it's the only retort I'm willing to give, because frankly, since the moment you signed up to the site, you've had nothing but a juvenile and derogatory attitude to anyone who shows a preference, and even pride towards owning an xbox 36e0. I mean seriously...Is your life so empty and devoid of any real excitement, or even actual social interaction that you need to borderline harrass someone over something they've already decided to purchase? Do you realise just how pathetic that is?

And then, when you've actually shown a modicum of wisdom in withdrawing from a thread where you continually badgered the poster when two people show a disinterest in a product that is, by all standards and reasoning from the point of view of someone with a reasonable IQ and imagination, lacking in storyline and content...Yo feel the need to once again, launch ifnto a chorus of comanary that falls just short of diatribe in order to protect your fragile little playstation penis.

The fact is, I've probably been playing games and enjoying movies much...much longer than you, and probably started way before the egg in your mommdy's womb started to divide in order to give you life, so there is entirely the possibility that the reason that it's so repetitive to me precisely because I've been around on this little ball fo dirt longer.

But congratulations sir you've won your little pissing contest, and I've responded to your mediocre whining. You win. Here's your special olympics old badge.

[luthorsmentor]

i was looking for the xbox 360 vs ps3 stuff yet all i see is final fantasy bashing and flaming going on. can't we all just get a long? plenty of people love final fantasy, i'm one of them. if they remake VII for the PS3 it'd be a success. the original is still one of the best selling games of all time. I don't like halo. i've no interest in halo 3. I have a 360. I love the games that i can play on the 360 now. their library is bigger. to me they were more affordable first. eventually i'll have a PS3 they've got some exclusive titles coming out that i'm looking forward to. until i get that money saved up to buy one i'll replay final fantasy XII and play Wii Sports. I've already beaten all the 360 games i own.

Can't we all just get along?

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by constantine
yeah but like mello said...why remake a game that's essentially part of an altogether mediocre series? I mean each story is essentially the same anyway...same characters, same format...same combat system...

I said mediocre game. Not mediocre series. I love the Final Fantasy series. But FF7 is probably my next to least favorite of all of them (nothing can beat out Mystic Quest).

And the games are all fundamentally different. FF7 just represented a departing of traditional RPGs in this world.

Originally posted by Luffy
How many of them have you played?

Each one of them is very unique and just because you don't see that doesn't mean it doesn't have the right for it to be remade...

Alot of people like the final fantasy series and just because you two don't, doesn't mean a remake won't be made.

You're right. They are all different. And I love the FF series. I even own a Japanese Famicom for FF3. Can't understand a word of it, but I beat it.

And no, I didn't really like FF7. Most of the people that do are new-school RPG fans. FF7 was the archetype of all modern RPGs. I'm an old school gamer.

FF6 deserves a remake more than any of them. It's the highest-selling Final Fantasy game of all time. But it also came out six years before FF7 did, so it's had more time on the charts. In fact, FF6 is the only SNES game still produced to this day.

[constantine]

Meh. I really don't see any difference in Final Fantasy, I mean the only thing they really ever had in common after 7 was boring me to tears after five minutes.

Mello, check your inbox wumman.

[TMLS]

Originally posted by luthorsmentor
i was looking for the xbox 360 vs ps3 stuff yet all i see is final fantasy bashing and flaming going on.

Same here, I'm considering getting one of them with a PS3 budget version available here soon and figured this was the thread to check out.

But anyway, FF. It's rubbish, but you can't say they're all the same Const. It's the fact they're so different that makes me dislike them.

My first FF was VII, back on the PS1 of course. I enjoyed it, and clocked time up on it quickly but when I got VIII it p*ssed all over what I'd achieved in VII with different characters etc. and I couldn't get into to it after what I'd invested in the previous one.

I've tried others since, and my brother is a FF addict but it's just not the same buzz VII gave me. I wish they WERE all the same.

And mate, "But congratulations sir you've won your little pissing contest, and I've responded to your mediocre whining. You win. Here's your special olympics old badge." was just childish, would have thought better from you.

[anakinjmt]

I hope to own all 3 systems at some point (right now of the now-current gen systems, I only have Wii), but I will get a 360 before a PS3 for sure. Not only is it cheaper, but I don't buy a system until there is enough games for it that I would want to buy and play. My list for games worth buying a 360 is as follows:

Gears of War
Bioshock
Halo 3
Call of Duty 2
Halo Wars
Orange Box with Half-Life 2, HL2: Episodes 1 and 2, Team Fortress 2, and Portal
F.E.A.R.
Perfect Dark Zero

My list of games worth getting a PS3 is as follows:

Resistance: Fall of Man
Final Fantasy XIII

Yeah. More games for 360 = next system I pick up. And, as much as I would love to play FFXIII (and will probably pre-order the collector's edition), I won't get it without more games that I'd want to play.

[Renu]

QUOTE]Originally posted by anakinjmt
I hope to own all 3 systems at some point (right now of the now-current gen systems, I only have Wii), but I will get a 360 before a PS3 for sure. Not only is it cheaper, but I don't buy a system until there is enough games for it that I would want to buy and play. My list for games worth buying a 360 is as follows:

Gears of War
Bioshock
Halo 3
Call of Duty 2
Halo Wars
Orange Box with Half-Life 2, HL2: Episodes 1 and 2, Team Fortress 2, and Portal
F.E.A.R.
Perfect Dark Zero

My list of games worth getting a PS3 is as follows:

Resistance: Fall of Man
Final Fantasy XIII

Yeah. More games for 360 = next system I pick up. And, as much as I would love to play FFXIII (and will probably pre-order the collector's edition), I won't get it without more games that I'd want to play. [/QUOTE]
whooa i have never managed to play shooter games on console i find it extremeley hard to aim whitout a mouse in my hand takes me like 30 second just to aim on a non moving target..
anyway i i have never layded my fingers yet on a ps3 jurt ordered a JP PS3 mooded for 475 E's should get to me next week ill tell you my opinion on ps3.. :P
until then i stick to XBoX360

[Dejected_Angel]

http://blog.anonymousbroccoli.com/2007-04-22/The%20Ring%20(Of%20Death)%20blog.jpg


:rotfl: :rotfl:

[Mello Penelo]

Originally posted by TMLS
But anyway, FF. It's rubbish, but you can't say they're all the same Const. It's the fact they're so different that makes me dislike them.

My first FF was VII, back on the PS1 of course. I enjoyed it, and clocked time up on it quickly but when I got VIII it p*ssed all over what I'd achieved in VII with different characters etc. and I couldn't get into to it after what I'd invested in the previous one.

I've tried others since, and my brother is a FF addict but it's just not the same buzz VII gave me. I wish they WERE all the same.

Umm, that's kind of the point. Final Fantasy sequels suck. That's why you get a new story every time. New characters and storylines to invest yourself in.

[TMLS]

Blimey, took you long enough to reply to that.

Surely, new characters and storylines = different game? It's a different story after all...

[Mello Penelo]

What? That's what I said. The beauty of Final Fantasy is every game is different. New characters, new systems, new stories. The direct sequels, like FFX-2 suck.