Lana VS Lois

[Mr.Bond]

Ok, just as a General question!

Who plays a better Love interest for Clark Kent?

Pleas base your anwers on how the actors chemistry together and who plays a better Girl friend for our Clark Kent.

[Scorpio31]

Lana hands down!!! For people who think EDLois has Chemistry with TWClark I would like to know were you see this, because I want to see were it is?

[MidgardDragon]

Lana is his first love.

Lois is his soulmate.

Lana loves him and will always love him, but there is something fundamentally wrong with their relationship that will make it not last. That thing will probably be his secret-keeping. And while she will forgive him and go on to become a very good friend, she will never be able to be fully committed to a man who hid who he was from her for such a long time.

Lois is obviously attracted to him, but it will be a long time coming becore Clark is the man, and she is the woman, that will become Lois and Clark the soulmates. Not to mention that Lois almost always falls for Superman first in the mythos that I have read/viewed. Lois will be great for him when he is Superman + Clark Kent. Lana is great for him while he is still just Clark Kent.

That's my opinion.

Originally posted by Scorpio31
Lana hands down!!! For people who think EDLois has Chemistry with TWClark I would like to know were you see this, because I want to see were it is?

Lois Lane doesn't have much chemistry with Clark Kent. She rarely does early on in the storyline. She has chemistry with Superman. She develops the chemistry with CK after the chemistry with Supes until it builds up into her discovering the "truth". At least in some cases.

[mallory]

Lana, no contest. Lois in Smallville is clueless about who and what Clark is.

[scoobycookies]

Lois definitely! She's much more fun to be around. The way they trade smiles is cute. And Clark just gets to be more himself around Lois, more easygoing. With Lana, Clark's guard is always up. They have no trust. It's an unhealthy relationship that doesn't make Clark a better person.

[my3cats]

Lois, Lana is human kryptonite.
Clark is an insecure, self-loathing mess around her, Clana bring out the worst in each other.

[SuperClarkMode]

You know, my universe would not shatter if the Clois happened early. DC offices will still be standing intact. Smallville's ratings will be fine, the Clana fans would warm to it eventually, WB will not go bankrupt ...

I think Lois challenges Clark in a way that Lana does not. I think Superman secretly likes that challenge. I think that it makes him feel more human when he has to struggle. Lana is like "wove me, I'm a cute puppy" and Clark does. Lois is almost daring Clark "I may think your cute, I might even like you. However, if you want me, you have to step up to the plate, and beat me at my own game. Yea, I'm sexy, I'm allot of work, and I'm worth it. But you have to fight for me."

Yes, they grate on each others nerves, but in a playful almost teasingly, flirty way. Read between the lines, they both secretly enjoy it to some degree. If not now, they will later. Just look at how much Lois and Clark's version of this romance made Clark fight for his love. They both had allot of fun gaining the upper hand in the relationship/conversation. It's all a game. One that ends with both of them being winners, when they finally give in. Sure, the show would be changed somewhat, but it would still be dam good television!

[Phoenix]

Right now, Lana is better for Clark while he is still discovering himself and no matter how dumb they make her on this show, she always comes back to him with her love and support, which is what he needs.

Lois will be way better for Clark in the future because he needs someone to challenge him in every single way. The following song totally reminds me of Lois's characteristics. Now and in the future as well.

I hate the world today
You're so good to me
I know but I can't change
Tried to tell you
But you look at me like maybe
I'm an angel underneath
Innocent and sweet
Yesterday I cried
Must have been relieved to see
The softer side
I can understand how you'd be so confused
I don't envy you
I'm a little bit of everything
All rolled into one

[Chorus:]
I'm a *****, I'm a lover
I'm a child, I'm a mother
I'm a sinner, I'm a saint
I do not feel ashamed
I'm your hell, I'm your dream
I'm nothing in between
You know you wouldn't want it any other way

So take me as I am
This may mean
You'll have to be a stronger man
Rest assured that
When I start to make you nervous
And I'm going to extremes
Tomorrow I will change
And today won't mean a thing

[Chorus]

Just when you think, you got me figured out
The season's already changing
I think it's cool, you do what you do
And don't try to save me

[Chorus]

I'm a *****, I'm a tease
I'm a goddess on my knees
When you hurt, when you suffer
I'm your angel undercover
I've been numb, I'm revived
Can't say I'm not alive
You know I wouldn't want it any other way

[vyperman7]

You can't really consider Lois a love interest yet. In the first few episodes of season four, I could see the sexual tension there. The uneasy glance at naked Kal-El in Crusade, the bathroom scene in Gone, the dunk tank scene at the end of Facade, the sexy look in Devoted after Lois asks Clark how he looks in a bathing suit... You could see the makings of a romantic relationship between the two down the road. They weren't making Lois out to be the love of Clark's life yet, but at least they were dropping little hints. After Lois left in Devoted, and came back in Spell, that tension and forshadowing was gone. Lois and Clark became like an angry brother/sister duo. I still love the Clois ship because it is fun to watch the journey between the two. But I don't feel like Lois is the better love interest, because they got rid of the sexual tension. It came back a little bit in Exposed though.

I have never shipped Clark and Lana. In the first season it was tolerable. I actually liked Lana in the first season, and you felt for Clark. But as the show went on, it just got worse and worse, as did Lana as a whole.

For right now, I would have to say neither. I would actually have to say that Chloe would make the best love interest. Clark and her have the best chemistry and they are almost spinning it to make it look like Chloe is the real Lois Lane. I have always liked the Chlois theory, so Chloe becoming Lois would be cool with me. But as cool as it would be, I don't really think it will happen either.

If they bring back the sexual tension and little hints like they had early on, then maybe I will drift back more towards the Clois ship. For now, Chlark and Clois are pretty much neck and neck for me.

[SuperClarkMode]

Originally posted by Phoenix
Right now, Lana is better for Clark while he is still discovering himself and no matter how dumb they make her on this show, she always comes back to him with her love and support, which is what he needs.

Lois will be way better for Clark in the future because he needs someone to challenge him in every single way. The following song totally reminds me of Lois's characteristics. Now and in the future as well.

I hate the world today
You're so good to me
I know but I can't change
Tried to tell you
But you look at me like maybe
I'm an angel underneath
Innocent and sweet
Yesterday I cried
Must have been relieved to see
The softer side
I can understand how you'd be so confused
I don't envy you
I'm a little bit of everything
All rolled into one

[Chorus:]
I'm a *****, I'm a lover
I'm a child, I'm a mother
I'm a sinner, I'm a saint
I do not feel ashamed
I'm your hell, I'm your dream
I'm nothing in between
You know you wouldn't want it any other way

So take me as I am
This may mean
You'll have to be a stronger man
Rest assured that
When I start to make you nervous
And I'm going to extremes
Tomorrow I will change
And today won't mean a thing

[Chorus]

Just when you think, you got me figured out
The season's already changing
I think it's cool, you do what you do
And don't try to save me

[Chorus]

I'm a *****, I'm a tease
I'm a goddess on my knees
When you hurt, when you suffer
I'm your angel undercover
I've been numb, I'm revived
Can't say I'm not alive
You know I wouldn't want it any other way


Wait a second! I'm just a dumb male ...

*SuperClarkMode retrieves his emergency pocket GirlSong-To-English Dictionary*

... ok, go ahead, what were you saying?

Nice song though, it does resemble Lois somewhat.

[SmvilleTeacher]

I have to say that right now Clark and Lana seem to be meant to be. There has been such a passionate chemistry between them the entire show that in all likelihood they should be together. But in the Superman universe we know it is not meant to be. There is great love b/w them, but Lois is his destiny. She is who CK will need in the future. But for now he is best with Lana. She supports and loves him. I mean, CK has been in love w/Lana for years. He finally has attained his dream. Let's not shatter that yet. I guess Lana is supposed to represent his past and Lois is his future. I am just wondering how this Clana relationship will resolve. It is supposed to be bittersweet - not just bitter.

[thehenry89]

i don't know he was alittle uneasy about puttin that twenty in lois's bra thing now if thats not sexual tension i don't know what is.

[mbarlow]

I cannot stand Clark and Lana. I see Clark becoming a man, and Lana will always be confused and helpless.

Lois, on the other hand could be a partner. I disagree with those that say that Lois has no chemistry with Clark. They have great chemistry. I think it is part of the reason that are at each other's throats all the time. There would definitely have to be something there for them to spend so much time downing each other.

And did you see how concerned Clark was that Lois was in trouble? That was more than just his average concern for humans.

[shy175223]

Originally posted by mbarlow
And did you see how concerned Clark was that Lois was in trouble? That was more than just his average concern for humans.

Oh I don't know he has acted the sameway with Chloe and I'm sure he would acted the sameway with anybody else. He does care for humans.

As for whom would make a better girlfriend umm...

Lois in the future but in Smallville Lori Lemaris if she ever shows up.:D

[kaatiedid]

I have to say that I like the Clois. I think their bantering says it all. Its the "I actually really like you, but I can't admit that to myself, so in order to associate with you I am just going to give you a hard time."

Since the second season, Clana has really annoyed me. I don't see anything ot the relationship except "they love each other". Besides trying to get Clark to tell the truth, Lana doesn't challenge Clark whatsoever.

~Katie~

[mbarlow]

I wholeheartedly agree.

[phatum]

lana vs lois. Two bikinis, a mud pit and me referein. i'll pick the winner

[mbarlow]

I'll take the pictures.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Originally posted by SuperClarkMode
You know, my universe would not shatter if the Clois happened early. DC offices will still be standing intact. Smallville's ratings will be fine, the Clana fans would warm to it eventually, WB will not go bankrupt ...

I think Lois challenges Clark in a way that Lana does not. I think Superman secretly likes that challenge. I think that it makes him feel more human when he has to struggle. Lana is like "wove me, I'm a cute puppy" and Clark does. Lois is almost daring Clark "I may think your cute, I might even like you. However, if you want me, you have to step up to the plate, and beat me at my own game. Yea, I'm sexy, I'm allot of work, and I'm worth it. But you have to fight for me."

Yes, they grate on each others nerves, but in a playful almost teasingly, flirty way. Read between the lines, they both secretly enjoy it to some degree. If not now, they will later. Just look at how much Lois and Clark's version of this romance made Clark fight for his love. They both had allot of fun gaining the upper hand in the relationship/conversation. It's all a game. One that ends with both of them being winners, when they finally give in. Sure, the show would be changed somewhat, but it would still be dam good television!


Great post :D

I'm gonna let Tom Welling himself say it too:


"I never had that banter that I have with Lois."

"I know that Lois isn't exactly a romantic addition, but you're right, there's a spark, a chemistry between Clark and Lois where they can't stand each other but at the same time, they can't stand not being around each other."

From Jeph Loeb:

“She is the only one who can see past the "S" (other than his parents) and see only the man."

“I love when she gives Clark sh*t – nobody else gets to do that. I find it curious that when I write her that way, some folks think she's a b*tch. Go back and look at films where women had a little wit – the Katherine Hepburns and Lauren Bacalls and Myrna Loys –fantastic, strong women who were never b*tches. They were strong: Clark responds to that. Imagine how strong Martha Kent is to put up with both of her men!”


"Lois is very funny, very sharp and one of the few people who can tell Superman where to get off, and he will listen. There's a spark there -- that's always been there -- so, whether they were dating or married, it doesn't matter -- they can have fun." -- Jeph Loeb


Lana on SV she hinders Clark's growth as a future Superhero, he acts whipped around Lana. He let's Lana walk over him. So obviously Lana is NO good for him.

Originally posted by mallory
Lana, no contest. Lois in Smallville is clueless about who and what Clark is.


Ummm she's supposed to not know who he is at this time. Chloe didn't know for the longest time, and Lana still doesn't know ;)

[mallory]

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
Great post :D

I'm gonna let Tom Welling himself say it too:


"I never had that banter that I have with Lois."

"I know that Lois isn't exactly a romantic addition, but you're right, there's a spark, a chemistry between Clark and Lois where they can't stand each other but at the same time, they can't stand not being around each other."

From Jeph Loeb:

“She is the only one who can see past the "S" (other than his parents) and see only the man."

“I love when she gives Clark sh*t – nobody else gets to do that. I find it curious that when I write her that way, some folks think she's a b*tch. Go back and look at films where women had a little wit – the Katherine Hepburns and Lauren Bacalls and Myrna Loys –fantastic, strong women who were never b*tches. They were strong: Clark responds to that. Imagine how strong Martha Kent is to put up with both of her men!”


"Lois is very funny, very sharp and one of the few people who can tell Superman where to get off, and he will listen. There's a spark there -- that's always been there -- so, whether they were dating or married, it doesn't matter -- they can have fun." -- Jeph Loeb


Lana on SV she hinders Clark's growth as a future Superhero, he acts whipped around Lana. He let's Lana walk over him. So obviously Lana is NO good for him.




Ummm she's supposed to not know who he is at this time. Chloe didn't know for the longest time, and Lana still doesn't know ;)

Ummmm, I wasn't talking about his super powers. She doesn't have a clue who Clark the person is. She is good at delivering clever one liners and digs. She has missed altogether who Clark is.

You're right that Lana doesn't know about Clark's powers. She loves him anyway.

Whoever said Lois sees past the S and sees Clark the man cannot be talking about Smallville. Maybe in the recent comics. On Smallville he could not be more wrong.

[mbarlow]

I think it was Jeph Loeb, and i think he knows more about the show than you do.....

[mnasteel1024]

Clark and lana relationship is very annoying. It was good for a while but the new has wore off along time ago. Clark and lois are a much better fit. Plus I think lois is hotter than lana.

[mbarlow]

definitely hotter

[PETER WEST]

Originally posted by Mr.Bond
Ok, just as a General question!

Who plays a better Love interest for Clark Kent?

Pleas base your anwers on how the actors chemistry together and who plays a better Girl friend for our Clark Kent.

Lois Lane, She makes Clark smile, laugh, and he enjoy's when she picks on him.

ED & TW have great chemistry, It's more beilveable. KK & TW it seem's always forced, it doesn't seem real.

[mallory]

Originally posted by mbarlow
I think it was Jeph Loeb, and i think he knows more about the show than you do.....

First, there is no S yet. So there is no S for Lois to see thru. Loeb is wrong right off the bat.

Loeb can believe the Lois of Smallville sees the real Clark. I say he is hallucinating. The way they have written Lois on Smallville, she has no idea who Clark is. That is why for over a year she called him Smallville, even while he was saving everyone's life (including hers) time after time.

This Lois is very uncomfortable with intimacy. This Lana is not. The producers/directors dug a hole for themselves, if they intend Clark and Lois to work things out at some point. Clark and Lois don't make sense as a couple. Clark and Lana do -- almost too much in fact.

[mbarlow]

Wow.....you are the one that is delusional.

From the beginning Lana and Clark have been nothing but trouble for both. Their relationship is destructive, whereas Lois brings out the best in Clark. She makes him more of a man, and Lana makes him more like a boy.

Lana brings down every man she is in contact with.

To say that she makes sense with anyone is crazy.

As crazy as she is.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Originally posted by mallory
First, there is no S yet. So there is no S for Lois to see thru. Loeb is wrong right off the bat.

Loeb can believe the Lois of Smallville sees the real Clark. I say he is hallucinating. The way they have written Lois on Smallville, she has no idea who Clark is. That is why for over a year she called him Smallville, even while he was saving everyone's life (including hers) time after time.

This Lois is very uncomfortable with intimacy. This Lana is not. The producers/directors dug a hole for themselves, if they intend Clark and Lois to work things out at some point. Clark and Lois don't make sense as a couple. Clark and Lana do -- almost too much in fact.

He's talking about the S in the comics, but it still applies.

Lana is very comfortable with intimacy that I'll agree with, but Clark's still acting like a shy virgin ;)

Clark and Lana make sense as a couple? :lol: What makes sense about them? The 50 million secrets and lies between them? Lana constantly berating Clark for those secrets and lies. Clark and Lana's relationship doesn't stand a chance, I mean it's pretty bad that Lana didn't even bother to tell her boyfriend that she applied to Chloe's college. :rolleyes:

[Watching Smallville]

I think of Clark and Lana's relationship as a young relationship -- an intense crush rather than being in love. Aside from all the lying and hiding things, I don't see them laughing, I don't see them arguing in a productive way. Lana will snap at Clark and walk away from him. Lois sticks around to duke it out. If you look at the range of facial expressions that Lois gets out of Clark -- more than the puppy-dog eyes he's always giving Lana -- it shows there's more potential there.

I think the Lana/Clark relationship worked for high school, but they're becoming adults now. They need to move past what they have. Their relationship needs to grow emotionally, but I don't see that happening. With Lois, the relationship starts out on a higher level -- with more spark.

[SuperClarkMode]

LOL! Everyone is drawing lines in the sand, and getting really passionate here! I'm sure to make someone mad with this post as well! Please, don't ever take my posts for more than just my humble opinion ...

In all reality, there is a way to do both relationships for the rest of the show, and make them work. There is a way for them to make the Chlark work as well. A good enough writer could make all of them work. He is Superman after all, he can do anything!

It's just my personal opinion, that the Clois, at this point in time, would be far more fun to watch than the Clana, and more true to the comics spirit, if not the continuity. We might never get a Metropolis spin off show, or another good Superrman tv show, it's now or never. I don't swallow that line of "Clark is not supposed to date Lois yet". I say, so what, as Smallville has been changing the rules with every episode anyway. And they should, as no good writer wants to be handcuffed to old continuity baggage, they just want to dip in, and use the good stuff from time to time. Yet still keep it original and fresh. They know the secret. Change is good. Who wants to retell the same old crap over and over?

When you get right down to it, Clark is not supposed to be with Lana, or Lois, after HS. And Chloe exists only in the Smallville show, so she IS doing exactly what she is supposed to! In Post Crisis Comics, Clark is not with anyone in this college time period (I am assuming that college mermaid girlfriend was Pre Crisis Comics, and I don't want him to date a mermaid in any case). Clark during this time period, is usually alone and introspective, getting an education from all over the world, and refining the man that he becomes in Metropolis.

It does not really matter how he gets to Daily Planet Clark Kent, but he DOES need to get there. Time is ticking. The problem here is that some people fear change. So cling to your safety blankets if you must, and justify it anyway you can. However, I have seen 4 plus years of the Clana, and very little character progression or growth in Clark. I just feel Lana is holding Clark back. They are in college now, and Clark needs to start taking bolder steps, if he intends to reach his adult personality of Daily Planet Clark Kent by the end of Smallville. He needs to take a journalism class with Lois, start wearing glasses, start challenging himself more, with his romantic life as well, and grab life by the Superballs.

Clark on Smallville has along way to go, to reach the plato of Daily Planet Clark Kent. Clark needs to start changing into the man he becomes now. We can't linger another 4.5 years with Lana. Leaving Lana, because Clark has matured, or out grown her, would be step in the right direction storywise. Leaving that for the last episode, will make me feel cheated. I want to see that transition first hand, and see what happens a little bit after that. This is the whole point of Smaville, Superman's growth as a person/hero, and Lex's decent into evil. Why rob me of that? Moving up the Clois, could help this transition.

I love Lana's character, and KK, but we had years to work with that, and the payoff is not what I wanted. I care about Clark Kent's future more than his HS sweetheart. I would not be surprised if Lana dies this season. The writers have to logically progress the story, and short of killing Lana off, I don't see how Clark would ever leave her. They could kill off Chloe, to jumpstart Clark's transition to Superman, but then, he is still doing the HS sweetheart thing, and leaving Lana has to come about sooner or later.

[dizzy]

It's all been said before but here it goes Lana is his High School love Lois is his future.
I see an insane amount of chemistry between Lois & Clark. They bicker, and snip at each other but they do care for the other one, their friends. Lois is not perfect, she's hard on him at times cause she's not in love with him she doesn't put him on a pestal. Clark still sees Lana as perfect.

At this point Clark & Lana are finally together it took them 4 yrs but at this point there not as close as they used to be, they love each other but their not in love. He still can't confide in her about who he really is, he is afraid of how she would react, that she would blame him for her parents' death. They'll always be friends but not meant to be together.

Who's a better girlfriend for him now Lana, but the woman he's meant to be with is Lois.

Lana never really lets go of Clark even when she marries Pete in the comics; she names their son after Clark.

[All about Clark]

I've really enjoyed the Clana, but I find the Clois more interesting. I'd like the Clana to end this year and have Clois be something more in Season 6. I don't care if TPTB changes things and has Clois start early, I'm ready.

[Chihiro]

Originally posted by SuperClarkMode
I have seen 4 plus years of the Clana, and very little character progression or growth in Clark. I just feel Lana is holding Clark back. They are in college now, and Clark needs to start taking bolder steps, if he intends to reach his adult personality of Daily Planet Clark Kent by the end of Smallville. He needs to take a journalism class with Lois, start wearing glasses, start challenging himself more, with his romantic life as well, and grab life by the Superballs.

LOL. Well said.

In the early seasons I really wanted Clark to get the girl, if only for sentimental reasons. And while Lana might have made a great girlfriend for Clark in high school, now that they're adults, she is, as you said, holding him back.

Clark and Lois sizzle in way that Clark and Lana's puppy love consummation never did. Though it's obvious Lana cares for Clark, in SV her character often seems like a burden to farmboy Kent. For the most part, with Lana, Clark has always been the goody-two-shoes farmboy. We all know Superman (and to some extent, SV's Clark) has his inner struggles, his own personal demons. I just don't see the SV Lana as someone who can handle sharing that part of Clark Kent.

SV gave Lois a good start as someone Clark would love to hate, but intrigues and surprises him at the same time. He got to know the Lois Lane underneath the biting, tough-as-nails exterior in subsequent episodes before he will one day truly see her as someone he can't live without. When that hits him, it'll be stronger than the affections he had for a girl he'd spied on for years with his telescope since he was seven years old.

It's important to remember that Lana was his ideal of the perfect girl for the longest time. Though he's gotten to know Lana over four seasons of SV, often it seems like he's just in love with the idea of "Lana the girl next door". Lana's hot, and he's clearly enamored of her, but he's never been "hot and bothered" by the things she says.

With Lois, he can't quite peg her. She taunts and teases, steals his thunder, and generally keeps him on his toes. She doesn't always adhere to his rural Kansas values. It's refreshing, coz frankly, apart from his abilities and his resolve in saving the day, Clark Kent the man doesn't show much spunk unless Lois is around. The farmboy will never evolve into the investigative reporter if he continues to hide in his emotional Utopia.

[Blurby]

Well said Chihiro :) I agree with you completely.

I'm not against Clana, but I never really liked it. It was tolerable for the first year or two, but it became so repetitive and redundant after some time. Lana just seems to compliment the not yet mature, adolescent Clark, which is who we see in Smallville, not Superman. Lois is his future and true love. That being said, I don't really like the idea of Lois and Clark persuing a full-blown romantic relationship at this stage. Their friendship is enough to keep my satisfied right now.

I just don't think they can continue with the Clana relationship and simultaneously evolve Clark's character. I think getting over Lana Lang is one of the things Clark must do as he gets closer to fulfilling his destiny.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Anyone notice in "Exposed" Clark was less whiny and angsty, he seemed more carefree and relaxed, coincidence, doubtful, it's because Miss Lang was gone ;)

[Deana]

I pick Lois. Lana isn't good for Clark. He's stuck in second gear being with her. Maybe Lana will be good for Lex, but she's sinking Clark.

[MidgardDragon]

Wow, this thread has turned into a Lana-basher's paradise. I think I'll stay out of it after I repeat myself:

Lana is his first love, she is the one for him in Smallville and still has a place by his side. Lana's problems will teach him something. If Lana didn't have those problems, then he wouldn't learn anything from her. What you all are saying is exactly the opposite of what is happening. Clark isn't not learning anything from Lana because of her problems, he *is* learning from her because of her problems.

Lois is Clark's soulmate in Metropolis. He still has lots of changing to do before he can be the Superman/Clark Kent combo that Lois eventually falls for.

Lana and Lois both have their places in Clark's life and all this bashing one way or the other just doesn't make sense. They are both performing specific roles in Clark's life and eventually those roles will change when Clark changes.

[SuperClarkMode]

More humble opinions from SuperClarkMode:

I love Lana, KK, her role as Clark's first love, and HS sweetheart. I would never ask to change that. I am just questioning her purpose in a post HS age. What she now does for Clark's character progression, you know the star of the show? She did the HS sweetheart thing. She had Clark's attention for 4 long years. Time to change things up. Move Clark to the next level. Hell, I never had a 4 year long relationship! That's a long time for something that is destined to not work out. 4 years, and how far did we get with all that? It's a broken record skipping.

Don't blame the Clana, the actors, or me, blame the writers. However, I still need the show to somehow progress Clark past this point in his life. Somehow, TPTB have to transition Clark to Daily Planet Clark Kent.

Clark's character progression is far more important than the Clana, or any of the 'Ships. I don't consider that Clana bashing. The show is about how Clark become a Superhero, and what made him the way that he is. Holding on too long to his HS sweetheart will not help that change in him happen. That's not was Smallville should be about. This is not "The Days Of Our Smallville Lives". IF you want that, go watch Lois and Clark. Again, I would not change Lana's part in HS, but we are no longer in HS, are we?

I don't care if Clark is god forbid SINGLE for a while, yea I said it! But it's time to transition him to Daily Planet Clark Kent. These transitions don't happen in half a season, or overnight. That takes time. And that is one thing the show is running out of. Just how many more seasons do you all think we have left? Count them, 3 max, most likely less. Clark can't keep doing this Clana thing the whole time, and end up as Daily Planet Clark Kent. We all make choices that change our lives. Clark's choices are destined to move him away from Lana, and towards Metropolis. I want to see some of that happen before time runs out for Smallville. I don't want them to jam it all in the last 3 episodes. I want the characters to evolve. Is that so bad? If moving up the Clois makes that transition happen more smoothly, that is a good thing. That is all I am saying. Why must it be called Clana bashing?

[Mr.Bond]

Holy molly!

wow did not expect this thread to be this way.

I can see everyone point and the Superman History! I can see the changes in Clark, I know eventually he will move on to become Superman and Lois love interest.

I'm just confuse on why everyone is Bashing Lana? I think she's plays the high school girl friend/crush right on the dot. She also has a good chemstry with Clark I just find them a very attractive couple.

Now comparing that to Lois I'm not sure since everytime they are together they have this banter that seems to be cute and yet it's like I have a crush on you but instead of showing it I'll just pick on you and get you annoyed kind of relationship. (i dont know if you guys understand that, hard to explain but hope you guys get my point)

Also to defend Lana or more like KK's character. They writers never really made Lana a solid character in the show but more of a floating love interest of Clark Kent, She never had a stable back ground like what Chloe has. They keep giving her subplot story to try to fit her in the show. Kind a sad in someways since she has a lot of potential.

Anyway glad I peak peoples interest in this thread and nice to see everyones point of view.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Yeah I agree, technically it should be Lori Lemaris now. But Clana has to be done to show why they don't work out in the long run, it's a necessary evil :\

[zanos]

First of all Lois is not a love interest for Clark so of course the answer is Lana. Even if there was no romantic link between any of the characters it would still be Lana. In terms of chemistry it wouldn't be either girl because there is none to speak between any of the actors. You either have sexual chemistry or you don't. Lois and Lana are completely sexless. However there seemed to be alot of chemistry between Clark and Alicia. Mostly due Sarah Carter's performance but chemistry nevertheless.

[MidgardDragon]

Lana will always be confused and helpless.

and

Lana is human kryptonite.

I think the first line in this assumes something about the character that none of us have any way of knowing. Lana may be confused now, and sometimes helpless, but that doesn't give any indication that her character will never change. Lana's character is actually a lot less confused and helpless this season than she's ever been.

Lana is human kryptonite...just...doesn't make any sense to me. It also sounds like a bash.

This is what I was talking about as bashing, SuperClarkMode. Not the people that are questioning if she should still be his g/f, but the people who are insulting the character baselessly. Lana bashers do it at every chance.

The fact is, Clark is still in Smallville, and Lana is his Smallville love. As he starts to move away from SV more and more (as he is doing this season with going to college) then he and Lana will eventually end. They will probably end this season. Lois makes a great soulmate for him at a later date, but she just isn't right for Smallville Clark.

The point of my original post was that both of them make great love interests for him, just at different times, and there's no point in the bashes here and there that I've seen in places throughout the thread. But I guess Lana bashing can't be eliminated no matter how hard I try, so I give. :P

[SuperClarkMode]

Originally posted by SuperClarkMode
More humble opinions from SuperClarkMode:

I love Lana, KK, her role as Clark's first love, and HS sweetheart. I would never ask to change that. I am just questioning her purpose in a post HS age. What she now does for Clark's character progression, you know the star of the show? She did the HS sweetheart thing. She had Clark's attention for 4 long years. Time to change things up. Move Clark to the next level. Hell, I never had a 4 year long relationship! That's a long time for something that is destined to not work out. 4 years, and how far did we get with all that? It's a broken record skipping.

Don't blame the Clana, the actors, or me, blame the writers. However, I still need the show to somehow progress Clark past this point in his life. Somehow, TPTB have to transition Clark to Daily Planet Clark Kent.

Clark's character progression is far more important than the Clana, or any of the 'Ships. I don't consider that Clana bashing. The show is about how Clark become a Superhero, and what made him the way that he is. Holding on too long to his HS sweetheart will not help that change in him happen. That's not was Smallville should be about. This is not "The Days Of Our Smallville Lives". IF you want that, go watch Lois and Clark. Again, I would not change Lana's part in HS, but we are no longer in HS, are we?

I don't care if Clark is god forbid SINGLE for a while, yea I said it! But it's time to transition him to Daily Planet Clark Kent. These transitions don't happen in half a season, or overnight. That takes time. And that is one thing the show is running out of. Just how many more seasons do you all think we have left? Count them, 3 max, most likely less. Clark can't keep doing this Clana thing the whole time, and end up as Daily Planet Clark Kent. We all make choices that change our lives. Clark's choices are destined to move him away from Lana, and towards Metropolis. I want to see some of that happen before time runs out for Smallville. I don't want them to jam it all in the last 3 episodes. I want the characters to evolve. Is that so bad? If moving up the Clois makes that transition happen more smoothly, that is a good thing. That is all I am saying. Why must it be called Clana bashing?

Took me too long to word this just right! I'm done now. 2 follow up posts later!

Anyway, I just want everyone to see I have good creative reasons for wanting change. I love all the characters, and I like to think I don't bash any of them. Like I said, let him be single, I don't care, just start Clark's transition! Let Clark evolve to the man he needs to become. If the writers can figure out a way to do that and the Clana at the same time, three cheers, the beers are on me. But I suspect, that will be harder to pull off than to just break them up. TPTB are too lazy to take the road less traveled.

[SmallvilleMan]

I don't understand why people can't see how clois and clana relationships are different situations. For one, Clark isn't in love wth lois and that's the biggest difference. Clark thinks of Lois like his annoying older sister. Lana is the woman he loves. In this season, clana has been very angst-free, both of them look very happy and very much in love. He smiled more in mortal and hidden, then he did in four seasons, minus the two episodes he dated Lana. Plus, i think they have chemistry, especially when it comes to passion.

[super-girl_argos]

I think Lana is better for him and here is why:

She is the personifictation of your first love, you know the one that doesn't last but is way sweet. Yes they both keep secrets from each other but I can understand why. Lana is the small town girl who works for Smallville Clark the farm boy which is what we are supposed to see. Lois is better for Metropolis Clark/Superman. Because Lana is the smalltown girl she is fits the role of young love and that is why Clark loves her and why Lois isn't right for him yet: one day she will be but not now.

By the Way Pheonix what is that song called?

[smoky]

Lana.

[SuperClarkMode]

Originally posted by SmallvilleMan
I don't understand why people can't see how clois and clana relationships are different situations. For one, Clark isn't in love wth lois and that's the biggest difference. Clark thinks of Lois like his annoying older sister. Lana is the woman he loves. In this season, clana has been very angst-free, both of them look very happy and very much in love. He smiled more in mortal and hidden, then he did in four seasons, minus the two episodes he dated Lana. Plus, i think they have chemistry, especially when it comes to passion.

I feel the problem is, they should have done angst-free Clana in early season 3. TPTB took to long, and now that it is basically season 6 (They have it all planned out for this year). What a waste. I swear I could write this show better. I feel the show now needs to focus on Clark becoming Superman. I thought that moving up the Clois might help, that's all. Ultimately, the core of this show is not relationships, it's a Superman in training show.

That said, I love the Clana too. I wish TPTB progressed it better and faster. I wish they would have let it bloom during season 3-4, and then they could have ended it on graduation, which would be a nice tribute to the comics. That would end it with style and grace, and leave everyone forfilled. I feel college is a new time in ones life, and new things should be happening to Clark by then. I feel Lana missed her chance at greatness on the show because TPTB wasted all these opportunities/seasons.

On a side note, Sorry if I got all into the discussion, and overdid it. I tend to do that. I don't mean to sound mean, if I did. I value all opinions, views, and stances on this topic, and if not a soul agrees with me, I am ok with that. Everyone is allowed to have their own theory here, just like I am. And I may be dead wrong. Who knows for sure? Believe it or not, I am having allot of fun in this thread.

[Watching Smallville]

Who's the better love interest?

I'm not a Lana basher -- I like her character, but I like her because she's problematic. I don't know if I would be Lana's friend in real life. And I don't know that she's good for Clark. But I think the dynamic between them is interesting.

I see Lois as someone who's good for Clark. She draws him out, makes him stand up to her, doesn't idolize him. But they're not in love, so technically, she's not a love interest.

So I'm not sure I have an answer to this question! I guess I vote neither, right now. :lol:

[SuperClarkMode]

I don't like it when they bash Lana either MR. Bond. I see what you mean though, there will always be those that just bash, without good reason. Just because they think the other one is hotter, for example. And sorry for changing your threads focus, if I did. I guess I vote Clark single for now! With a side of flirting.

You know what, Clark needs a male best friend. He only hangs out with ladies! Let The Flash go to college for a while!

[Alphacooler]

Lana,

Just look at this season's episodes...they have a really pure and deep connection. Whereas Lois and Clark dont' have any chemistry...soulmates (IMO) have an immediate connection from the first time they lock eyes...that is something Clark and Lana share, but Lois doesnt have.

Another point is that they are pretty old at this point...it isn't like Clark has a 'crush' on Lana. They are all more or less the same people they will be for the rest of their lives...and if Clark had to choose we know which way that would go.

[Blurby]

I'm not bashing Lana. In fact, I actually enjoy Lana when she tends to have more of her own plot, rather than simply being there attached to Clark at the hip. Unfortunately, the writers did not give her a good arc last season :)

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

It wasn't my intention to bash Lana either.

Actually Lana's never had a good arc :\

[Blurby]

That is true :)

[cotton candy girl]

Tom also recently said that Lana is the center of humanity for Clark. Aside from the premarital relations that I don't agree with, Lana and Clark belong together on SV. It was bound to happen, and I think overwhelmingly it's what the fans want.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

I didn't know Tom had said that :) That's gotta be a first, I've hardly ever heard him say anything positive about Clana.

[cotton candy girl]

Originally posted by ~*Lois & Clark Fan*~
I didn't know Tom had said that :) That's gotta be a first, I've hardly ever heard him say anything positive about Clana.

My friend, it was in Smallville Magazine before S5. :)

[Crispin Glover]

Lana should be off the show. The writers and creators handled the 4th season so badly that I no longer care that Lana is with Clark. Exposed was one of the best episodes because she wasn't in it. I have always been a Clana fan, but it isn't any good anymore. I can also believe when Lois kicks some butt. Lana, I can't believe doing many round houses. It is definitely a more mature relationship, or would be if Clark was with Lois. I say go ahead and make it so that Clark and Lois had a relationship before the Daily Planet!

[LoisLaneIsHott]

I could easily go with Clana. I think Clark has been annoying as of late. Mabye its just more Clana then I'm used to but they're both nice, sweet, innocent people. Of course they would fall in love and make disgusting love to each other.

Lois is great single. I dont mind. *grins*

[lana&Clark4ever]

lana off the show?? it should be lois because there is no need for her right now except...pushing the whole forshadowing karap into our faces like we don't know already....it is really getting annoying.

lana IS the best love-interest for clark...and that's all i'm gonna say about it.:D

[Mr.Bond]

Originally posted by SuperClarkMode

That said, I love the Clana too. I wish TPTB progressed it better and faster. I wish they would have let it bloom during season 3-4, and then they could have ended it on graduation, which would be a nice tribute to the comics. That would end it with style and grace, and leave everyone forfilled. I feel college is a new time in ones life, and new things should be happening to Clark by then. I feel Lana missed her chance at greatness on the show because TPTB wasted all these opportunities/seasons.


SuperClarkMode, I truly agree with your comment that TPTB did not progressed the CLANA faster and they let it drag on to the point that they forgot to develope Lana the character to have a more stable storyline like chloe. I also agree they should give Clark a male best friend (bring back Pete Ross I say).

anyway Thanks for everyone's interest in the thread even the few bashers out there!

[BeepBeep]

In Smallville, Lana.

In the future, Lois.

[lana&Clark4ever]

^^^yup..and THAT'S why lana is the best love interest for clark..which is right now in smallville. and hois is the best love interest for superman..which is not now in smallville but in a whole different show.

...wait what am i saying!! lana is best love interest for clark/superman 4ever and ever AMEN!

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by lana&Clark4ever
^^^yup..and THAT'S why lana is the best love interest for clark..which is right now in smallville. and hois is the best love interest for superman..which is not now in smallville but in a whole different show.

...wait what am i saying!! lana is best love interest for clark/superman 4ever and ever AMEN!

Okay, that's going a bit far. Lana would be horrible with Superman. I agree with your first paragraph though.

Lana and Clark

Lois and Superman (and eventually, Lois and Clark+Superman when she learns the "truth")

[batfinx]

I could easily go with Clana. I think Clark has been annoying as of late. Mabye its just more Clana then I'm used to but they're both nice, sweet, innocent people.

Yes, you've hit the nail on the head on why they're a boring couple. There's no spark, not challenge or conflict and I don't think they've ever had an argument. Lana has nagged of course and also accused Clark of getting Jason fired, but even then Clark didn't get angry and stand up for himself and argue the point with her like a real guy would. I guess what he learns when he falls for Lois is that love doesn't mean your backbone has to vanish :lol:

[mallory]

How does Lois make Clark a better person? Not at all in my opinion. Actually, the opposite is more true: Clark makes Lois a better person.

Clark is already a fine person. One of the world's best in fact. It's hard to imagine a more pure force for good, both on a personal and societal level, than Clark Kent of Smallville. To mature he just needs experience, to jump in the water. Lois in general has little to do with that -- the Lois of Smallville, nada.

Lois has seen Clark's true character. She is not impressed. She called him Smallville for over a year. She mocked him to her cousin, calling him a small-time hick who has no future. This was despite Clark doing one amazing thing after another, saving everyone's lives, always being there for them, helping them, with great personality and humility to boot.

In one episode last year Lois saw Clark's real powers, even if her memory got erased seconds later. For that brief time she was real impressed. "Guess I can't call you Smallville anymore," she said, her mouth open in stunned amazement. At least in this way Smallville runs true to the comics: Lois Lane mocks Clark but loves Supes.

That's the bottom line. Lois knows Clark's personality and mocks him. Lana knows Clark's personality and loves him. Lies, letdowns, secrets, breakups and all, she still loves him. Lois has not shown much ability to love period. She's more like an amusing drinking buddy.

I doubt Lana and Clark stay together long on this show. Hasn't Miles said they are doomed, and Lois is Clark's future? That pretty well ends the debate. The writers set up some paradoxes with that, though, in how they cast the characters on the show. I guess you can say Clark and Lois will change in the future. Maybe. Problem is, usually by that age, people's personalities are about 99% set.

[ClLaLeChFAN01]

I agree....right now Lana and Clark

Hello everyone!

[mallory]

To add a bit more: the only reason -- the ONLY reason -- to say Lois is Clark's soulmate is from some of the comics. (Not all, but some.) We have not seen a glimmer of a hint of a whisper of that in this TV show.

[SuperDub2]

Lana is definitely the better love interest

[Timester]

Originally posted by mallory
Lois has seen Clark's true character. She is not impressed. She called him Smallville for over a year. She mocked him to her cousin, calling him a small-time hick who has no future. This was despite Clark doing one amazing thing after another, saving everyone's lives, always being there for them, helping them, with great personality and humility to boot.

I also mock Smallville's Clark because he is nowhere near the icon Clark Kent, the top Pulizter-awarded journalist and the greatest superhero of them all. No, right now Clark is centuries why from that... :\

Right now, the Smallville Clark is just fine to Lana, I just hope he becomes a man very soon and starts to act like Clark Kent.

[shy175223]

Originally posted by mallory
Lois has seen Clark's true character. She is not impressed. She called him Smallville for over a year. She mocked him to her cousin, calling him a small-time hick who has no future. This was despite Clark doing one amazing thing after another, saving everyone's lives, always being there for them, helping them, with great personality and humility to boot.

Well, she had thanked for Clark for saving her life at the end of Exposed. I don't remember the whole dialogue to it but I think she said along the lines of that even though she always makes fun of him, he always manages to save her life anyway and she thanks him for that. So she even realize that he isnt such a bad guy at times even though he does get on her nerves.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Originally posted by lana&Clark4ever
^^^yup..and THAT'S why lana is the best love interest for clark..which is right now in smallville. and hois is the best love interest for superman..which is not now in smallville but in a whole different show.

...wait what am i saying!! lana is best love interest for clark/superman 4ever and ever AMEN!


Lana does just love Clark, but she doesn't love the whole man, besides if they're going the route on SV of Clark being the disguise then we can say Lana will love only the disguise Lois will love the whole man the real person ;)

Originally posted by Timester
I also mock Smallville's Clark because he is nowhere near the icon Clark Kent, the top Pulizter-awarded journalist and the greatest superhero of them all. No, right now Clark is centuries why from that... :\

Right now, the Smallville Clark is just fine to Lana, I just hope he becomes a man very soon and starts to act like Clark Kent.


UGH! Don't get me started on Clark. I am sick of them turning him into Peter Parker. I have a sick feeling that he's going to have to be guilted into putting on the suit :mad:

[Mydhrin]

Lana does just love Clark, but she doesn't love the whole man, besides if they're going the route on SV of Clark being the disguise then we can say Lana will love only the disguise Lois will love the whole man the real person
??? Lana loves Clark, yes. Lana loves the hero Clark, yes. What whole man are you talking about? Lana will have loved Clark well before she ever knew about his super powers and his hero morality. For Lois, its the contrary. She falls for Superman, then falls for Clark Kent... In the end, both of them loves Clark Kent as who he really is, both Clark Kent and Superman...

[Timester]

Originally posted by Mydhrin
??? Lana loves Clark, yes. Lana loves the hero Clark, yes. What whole man are you talking about? Lana will have loved Clark well before she ever knew about his super powers and his hero morality. For Lois, its the contrary. She falls for Superman, then falls for Clark Kent... In the end, both of them loves Clark Kent as who he really is, both Clark Kent and Superman...

Actually, Lana doesn't like the Superman persona. That was so obvious when her kid borned.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Originally posted by Mydhrin
??? Lana loves Clark, yes. Lana loves the hero Clark, yes. What whole man are you talking about? Lana will have loved Clark well before she ever knew about his super powers and his hero morality. For Lois, its the contrary. She falls for Superman, then falls for Clark Kent... In the end, both of them loves Clark Kent as who he really is, both Clark Kent and Superman...


Yeah but it's the Superman part of Lana that no incarnation of Lana has been able to accept. I'm not saying she doesn't love Clark, but it's Superman she just can't handle his life.

[Mydhrin]

In SV we have yet to see the full realization of this. I know in comics, its like that but in SV, since Lana doesnt know Superman yet, this realization yet to come, even though it has happened a little (hospital scene in Hidden, but even that, its different). We will surely see more of that IF that is the reason Clana wont end together but im not sure it will be like that in SV.

[smallville_fetish]

If you were to take a pole, I think Lana would win.

Like someone said before, Lois in Metropolis who falls in love with Superman only to realize that Superman's closer to her than she thought -Clark Kent.

And in Smallville, it has to be Lana Lang. Even if right now it seems all she does is add drama, it's worth it to him because he's still very much in love with and sees only Lana. Right now Lois is just his annouying sister-like PAL and maybe he'll develop feelings for her in the FUTURE but right now, again it's Lana.

True the Clois relationship will be more simple in the future and make Clark more confident whatever, but it's that first love Lana who will really change him. Once he realize that'll she loves him and will accept who he is no matter what, thats when the distiny embarcing will really begin. The only thing holding him back is not Lana herself, but his doubts for Lana. It's hard to beleive that now the way he's been acting, dishonest and insecure but hello it's not over yet. We don't know whats going to happen when Lana finds out and how that'll change him. But once he trustes her love, he'll get past all that . And thats the only way he'll truely move on from her and Smallville. (Assuming that there will be no Lex/Lana/Clark triangle)

It's that first love that's not meant to last but touches him in every way possible. Even if his "soul-mate is Lois", it was Lana Lang who taught him how to love.

[SuperClarkMode]

LOL! Mr Bond, I am staying out this latest round of Lana Vs Lois. I made my peace!

We have created a monster! The thread is alllivvve!

[Chihiro]

Can't wait to see what the writers have planned for Clana and Clois for the rest of season 5. LOL.

[SuperClarkMode]

Clark dates everyone at once with superspeed.

[Watching Smallville]

Hah! :lol:

[Clareo]

All I have to say is this: :rolleyes:

But I <3 Lois Lane.

[dizzy]

Lois calls Clark Smallville in the comics , its not meant to put him down its a nickname. And he calls her Metropolis

[Mr.Bond]

Originally posted by SuperClarkMode
LOL! Mr Bond, I am staying out this latest round of Lana Vs Lois. I made my peace!

We have created a monster! The thread is alllivvve!

:D :D Indeed we have!! I'm just glad a lot more serious answers came out than just a Lana - Bashers.


Originally posted by Chihiro
Can't wait to see what the writers have planned for Clana and Clois for the rest of season 5. LOL.

So am I!! I just hope the writers will make more of a solid story line especially with Brainiac and the SV / Metrapolis stories.

[batfinx]

Lois has seen Clark's true character. She is not impressed. She called him Smallville for over a year. She mocked him to her cousin, calling him a small-time hick who has no future. This was despite Clark doing one amazing thing after another, saving everyone's lives, always being there for them, helping them, with great personality and humility to boot.

Neither Lois nor Lana has seen the real person on this show. If Clark started whining about his powers to Lois and Lana, then they'd see more of the truth about his feelings as they are currently. Only Chloe knows the whole truth about him right now. She gets to hear the whining :lol: In the future Lois falls for Superman who is an alien from the planet Krypton and has super powers and is kind and heroic. In other words Lois falls in love with the whole truth about him and not just the half truth of Clark Kent that Lana knows.

There's this fallacy that Lana's love is somehow more honest because she loves the lie that Clark feeds her about himself. We don't know how Lana would react if she found out the whole truth about Clark. She might accept it or be very angry, but for now it's all guess work because she does not know the whole truth about him. It's like the baloney Lana was carving up in the hospital room in Hidden. That was all retro-writing nonsense.

I could not believe what I was hearing. When Lana said she always pulled away from Clark because she knew one day his heroics would land him in the hospital, I threw my dirty socks at the TV :lol: It was about secrets and lies and always has been. It's one thing to have a silly continuity glitch like Lex saying that he admires people who play the piano but that he never had the patience to learn and then show him in a later episode playing the piano perfectly, but to rewrite something so blatantly part of Lana and the reason she nagged Clark incessantly is just hogwash. The only way I'd buy this load of crap is if this season was the only one I'd ever seen and had no idea what came before it.

I'd be in for a real shock if I bought earlier DVDs and find out that Lana didn't even go to Clark's house until she was 15 even though she lived next to him most of her life. I'd be surprised that when Clark was so sick in Fever it wasn't Lana who went to visit him, it was Chloe. I'd be surprised to find out that once Whitney was out of the way Lana didn't go to Clark and confess that she knew from the day she met him that no one could make her happier than him, but instead I'd see her nagging him just about every single episode second season about secrets and lies.

I'm not naive and don't have a bad memory, but it's like that's what the writers hope I have so I don't remember that, or her running off to Paris because of secrets and lies. The only reason Lana seems perfect for Clark is because they retro-actively created a brand new continuity that flies in the face of everything preceding it. If you buy it that's fine, but I just can't.

[CK&CK]

I'm not sure if anyone has already mentioned this, but did anyone else besides me think that Lois dancing to the Lyrics "Don't you wish you're Girlfriend was hot like me" was an inside joke. I mean.....she's dancing in front of Clark......and who's Clark's girlfriend at the moment?.....yeah, that's right. Lois is Smoking Hot.......Lana....well, she's pretty & cute.....that's about it as far as looks. As far as personality......let's just say that Lois is far more entertaining.

"Aye, Aye....Sailor"

[Clareo]

I know that I said my only response was ":rolleyes:," but I lied.

I'd be in for a real shock if I bought earlier DVDs and find out that Lana didn't even go to Clark's house until she was 15 even though she lived next to him most of her life. I'd be surprised that when Clark was so sick in Fever it wasn't Lana who went to visit him, it was Chloe. I'd be surprised to find out that once Whitney was out of the way Lana didn't go to Clark and confess that she knew from the day she met him that no one could make her happier than him, but instead I'd see her nagging him just about every single episode second season about secrets and lies.

Yeah! I've been writing this and that, trying to explain why I used to be cool with Lana until S4 and this season, and you nailed it. (Thank you.) I mean, the Mary Sue-ish-ness has always irritated me, but I could deal with it until this mushy garbage that just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. That scene in the hospital made me want to vomit instead of "awww . . . *sniffle*" and I wondered why. Da-amn. Lack of continuity; lack of sense. I swear I used to like Lana (sort of). I liked Clana, even. S5 has her all schmoopy over Clark and acting as though he's the love of her life (and fine, she believes that), but will someone stop the madness? The viewers definitely realize that the "no one could make me happier" stuff was baloney because all you have to do is whip out S1 and it's like "zuh?!" - no indication that she was giving her heart to anyone but Whitney.

Oh AlMiles and TPTB - you torment me so.

[mallory]

Originally posted by dizzy
Lois calls Clark Smallville in the comics , its not meant to put him down its a nickname. And he calls her Metropolis

In the TV show it is absolutely a putdown. A gentle one, but a putdown even so. She showed that when she said "I guess I can't call you Smallville anymore." That was after she saw him holding up several tons worth of metal that would have crushed Chloe.

[Watching Smallville]

Originally posted by Clareo
S5 has her all schmoopy over Clark and acting as though he's the love of her life (and fine, she believes that), but will someone stop the madness? The viewers definitely realize that the "no one could make me happier" stuff was baloney because all you have to do is whip out S1 and it's like "zuh?!" - no indication that she was giving her heart to anyone but Whitney.

Well, not really. Remember the date that went awry because because Chloe was about to be frozen in Cool? That was just Episode 5 of Season 1. And the birthday party, where Clark set up the truck for the "drive-in movie" effect? They had their moments in Season 1, and they had plenty of moments in Season 2. I think the writers just over-wrote the hospital scene for emotional impact. Maybe Lana was delusional with grief, or maybe the writers messed up. But we've seen signs of her affection for Clark from the very beginning of the series.

[smallville_fetish]

Yeah throughout the whole 4 years of high school and earlier to that I think Lana always had a soft spot for Clark but he was always running around being the hero. So she settled for Whitney? But throughout the season even when she was with Whitney she gave Clark goggly eyes. She did give her heart to Whitney, most of it-which isn’t fair for Whitney but something told her not to dismiss Clark. It wasn’t because she wanted attention-she got plenty of that from FOTWs. But later when she was with Clark she discovered there’s more to him then heroic- he was not honest with her. That’s when the nagging of secrets and lies began. I don’t I thought the hospital scene was sweet but when she said that I was like, wait whaaat? I tried to make sense of it but that’s the best way I can because I’m trying to give the writers the benefit of the doubt most of the time. Maybe you are right and its sloppy writing or over-writing for emotional impact hoping the audience won’t think twice about that.

[Chihiro]

Originally posted by CK&CK
I'm not sure if anyone has already mentioned this, but did anyone else besides me think that Lois dancing to the Lyrics "Don't you wish you're Girlfriend was hot like me" was an inside joke. I mean.....she's dancing in front of Clark......and who's Clark's girlfriend at the moment?.....yeah, that's right. Lois is Smoking Hot.......Lana....well, she's pretty & cute.....that's about it as far as looks. As far as personality......let's just say that Lois is far more entertaining.

"Aye, Aye....Sailor"

Yeah, Lois pole dancing to that song really cracked me up. :rotfl:

[batfinx]

Well, not really. Remember the date that went awry because because Chloe was about to be frozen in Cool? That was just Episode 5 of Season 1. And the birthday party, where Clark set up the truck for the "drive-in movie" effect? They had their moments in Season 1, and they had plenty of moments in Season 2. I think the writers just over-wrote the hospital scene for emotional impact. Maybe Lana was delusional with grief, or maybe the writers messed up. But we've seen signs of her affection for Clark from the very beginning of the series.

Those incidents only served to make Lana seem like less than a loyal girlfriend to Whitney. Lana went to Clark's party and Whitney had to literally track her down. If it had been Whitney who went to a party that a female friend was throwing and Lana had to track him down, Whitney would have been ripped to shreds for it. And let's be honest about the concert date in Cool and the drive-in movie present for Lana's birthday, all those gifts were provided by Lex Luthor! Has Clark ever told Lana those gifts really came from Lex? Would she view them differently in retrospect if she knew? What if she stormed over to Lex and complained about him funding Clark's affection for her? Would Lex then confess his feelings for her? Tell her that he loved her even back then and it didn't matter if Clark gave her the presents so long as they made her happy? I can totally see this happening.

In the TV show it is absolutely a putdown. A gentle one, but a putdown even so. She showed that when she said "I guess I can't call you Smallville anymore." That was after she saw him holding up several tons worth of metal that would have crushed Chloe

What I thought was cool is when Lois deliberately called him Clark when she wanted to be serious with him and thank him for saving her. If she always went around calling him Clark instead of Smallville, the scene wouldn't have been as special.

As far as personality....let's just say that Lois is far more entertaining.

A hundred percent agreement. She's a wild child. She's not focused like Chloe and she's not deadly seriously like Lana, but she was really great working with Chloe. I'd like to see more of that.

[CK&CK]

[/B]A hundred percent agreement. She's a wild child. She's not focused like Chloe and she's not deadly seriously like Lana, but she was really great working with Chloe. I'd like to see more of that. [/B]

Yeah, I'll admit she's definitely more of a wild child than Chloe....that's not really Chloe at all......but I find Chloe just as entertaining.......she's always jumping into the middle things just as much as Lois is....if not more so at this point in time......Chloe's just a little more subtle....most of the time. I definitely want to see more of the "Cousins".......or should I say "Sisters".....because that's more of what they really are.

[Clareo]

They had their moments in Season 1, and they had plenty of moments in Season 2. I think the writers just over-wrote the hospital scene for emotional impact. Maybe Lana was delusional with grief, or maybe the writers messed up. But we've seen signs of her affection for Clark from the very beginning of the series.

and

Yeah throughout the whole 4 years of high school and earlier to that I think Lana always had a soft spot for Clark but he was always running around being the hero. So she settled for Whitney? But throughout the season even when she was with Whitney she gave Clark goggly eyes. She did give her heart to Whitney, most of it-which isn’t fair for Whitney but something told her not to dismiss Clark.

Right. I mean, I agree that she had a soft spot for Clark from the beginning, but the hospital scene made me gag because it was just so way over-the-top. She definitely liked Clark in S1 and all, but I just found it hard to believe that, back in that time, she "knew that no one could make her happier." You're both right, though. The writers probably wanted to show her overcome with grief. It was just irritating. :p

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by Clareo
and



Right. I mean, I agree that she had a soft spot for Clark from the beginning, but the hospital scene made me gag because it was just so way over-the-top. She definitely liked Clark in S1 and all, but I just found it hard to believe that, back in that time, she "knew that no one could make her happier." You're both right, though. The writers probably wanted to show her overcome with grief. It was just irritating. :p

Someone died, Lana has shown to be an overly emotional person. Some people react very emotionally to *any* death. And this just happened to be her boyfriend that she just lost her virginity to and she is likely feeling stronger feelings for due to the chemicals in her brain doing the whole lovey-dovey thing. Lana's reaction wasn't over-the-top, IMO, it was spot on.

[SmallvilleMan]

All Lana was telling him in the hospital bed scene was how much she loved him and how much she made him happy. I mean come on, this is the one who has always been there for her and the one guy she has said she loved. And the stuff about Lana always nagging clark about secrets and lies is WAY OFF. She didn't always nag him. She ONLY brought it up when clark was stupid enough to say, "Why didn't you tell me about this" or when lana shared a secret with him, which he asked for her to trust him and he couldn't do it the same or when clark did something irrational, like in red. This lana always nagging clark is just a false story that lana haters like to throw out, IMO.

[thehenry89]

that kinda makes sense exept what about the episode with van she had no reason to nag him about his powers according to you she only does that whe she shares a secret with him and he doesnt do the same thing back, no secret to be shared but at the end she there askin clark about what happend.

[Clareo]

Lana has shown to be an overly emotional person

Right: I won't dispute that - but overly emotional people grate on me to begin with, so compound that with all the other issues I have with Lana . . . and there you go.

But that's just IMHO. :)

[Danelle]

Originally posted by Timester
Actually, Lana doesn't like the Superman persona. That was so obvious when her kid borned.

Whoa, can you explain that one to me a little more? I'm not familiar with the comics, but this quote has piqued my interest!

[MidgardDragon]

It sparked my interest too. What is a borned? What does her kid doing it have to do with anything? Did Timester mean when her kid was born?

(Sorry, adding "ed" to the end of things instead of using the proper form is a huge pet peeve of mine.)

[mallory]

I don't think Lana nags Clark as much as some of you would have it. I also think anyone in the Smallville universe who is not burning with curiosity about the enigmas surrounding Clark Kent must have the intelligence of a rock.

Clark is the center of one baffling mystery after another. The 3 Stooges, Gomer Pyle and Billy of Mandy fame might not want to know more. But just about everyone else who has half a brain would.

A big recurring question in this forum is who will find out about Clark's secret, and when. Why, then, do some of you go so polar when a few of the characters (Lana, Lex, e.g.) show either the curosity or the initiative that could lead to exactly that?

[Clareo]

Well, just because it's a recurring question doesn't mean that I (or anyone else) necessarily wants for a specific character (Lex, Lana, etc.) to find out his secret. I'm not saying that I feel any particular way, but just because a lot of us wonder who will find out doesn't mean that we're going to get behind, say, Lana, and encourage her, so to speak.

[SmallvilleMan]

In the episode with van, she didn't nag him about his powers. She went to the farm to tell clark it would be okay if he did have powers. She was trying to show him that it wouldn't matter to her if he had powers, but he didn't catch that obviously.

[Summers]

Originally posted by Danelle
Whoa, can you explain that one to me a little more? I'm not familiar with the comics, but this quote has piqued my interest!

She named her son Clark Kent Ross, and it really made Lois and Pete uneasy.

[~*Lois & Clark Fan*~]

Originally posted by mallory
I don't think Lana nags Clark as much as some of you would have it. I also think anyone in the Smallville universe who is not burning with curiosity about the enigmas surrounding Clark Kent must have the intelligence of a rock.

Clark is the center of one baffling mystery after another. The 3 Stooges, Gomer Pyle and Billy of Mandy fame might not want to know more. But just about everyone else who has half a brain would.

A big recurring question in this forum is who will find out about Clark's secret, and when. Why, then, do some of you go so polar when a few of the characters (Lana, Lex, e.g.) show either the curosity or the initiative that could lead to exactly that?


LOL Lana constantly nagged Clark about his secrets and lies. Yeah she has a right to be curious, but she passed curious and went into full nag mode. I mean people are allowed to have secrets.

If I remember right she once told Clark the only thing he was good for was "Keeping secrets" or words to that effect. How rude :mad:

[SmallvilleMan]

She doesn't consistently nag him, unless he does something. It's false statement, imo, to say that Lana blantedly goes up to clark and nags him out of no where. And i'll throw out this question, how many times did lana question clark during season 4 or the beginning of this season about his secrets? NONE. So there goes that theory....

[Kal2]

If Thirst was a Lana episode and this was a Lois episode.. Lana wins.

[Timester]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
It sparked my interest too. What is a borned? What does her kid doing it have to do with anything? Did Timester mean when her kid was born?

(Sorry, adding "ed" to the end of things instead of using the proper form is a huge pet peeve of mine.)

Clark went to the hospital because Lana was having her baby. During that, Doomsday (possessed by Brainiac) attacked the JLA. Clark was called by the League and had to leave, not before Lana said something like this "Who is more important, me or the League?" And that is not the only time Lan put down the Superman persona.

(Sorry Midgard, not only English is not my first language, also I'm dyslexic). :p

[MidgardDragon]

Oh, that's alright, just to give you a correction for your English so it will be right next time: "When Lana's baby was born." No need for the -ed, the was makes it past tense already and there is no such word as "borned".

PS: I hope I didn't offend you. Hopefully we can all agree that learning new things is good and now you can employ better English writing in the future. I didn't mean it to be an insult simply a correction. (Now, if it was someone who spoke English as a first language and had done so all their life, I might have to get a bit nasty, but since it's not yours, I'll play nice. :P)

[Timester]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Oh, that's alright, just to give you a correction for your English so it will be right next time: "When Lana's baby was born." No need for the -ed, the was makes it past tense already and there is no such word as "borned".

PS: I hope I didn't offend you. Hopefully we can all agree that learning new things is good and now you can employ better English writing in the future. I didn't mean it to be an insult simply a correction. (Now, if it was someone who spoke English as a first language and had done so all their life, I might have to get a bit nasty, but since it's not yours, I'll play nice. :P)

I know that is "born", but like I said I'm dyslexic (even on my own mother language). I think one thing and write or speak another without seeing it. Can be painful some times. :p

[MidgardDragon]

Hehe, well, sorry to hear that. I guess you can't put a dyslexic label on all your posts, so sorry if I forget and correct you in the future. My memory's not what it used to be. :P

[superkido]

Lana is the best for clark they are always happy together. When the metiors crash by the second time clark was trying to find his parents and lana but he didnt care about lois. He is always happy near lana. But with lois his like treating her like he treated pete a good freind. the person clark has always want to tell his secret to is lana.
Lana is the best for clark because she is a good person always trying to help her freinds, she is sincere and she is the hottest in smallvile.

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[liana]

My main problem with clana relationship is the fact that they are both hiding things from each other. I can't consider a close relationship that is not based in trust and honesty. Love is not enough. Lots of people love each other, but can't be really happy together because they don't trust each other or can't be themselves with each other. The hard truth is that Clark was never himself around Lana. She simply doesn't know the real him, just a part of him. The real Clark Kent is both superman and Clark. And I'm not talking about powers here. I'm talking about feelings, issues, problems, trust. What kind of relationship they have when Clark can't tell Lana his problems? At least, in the Comics, they were friends. In Smallville they are lovers, but ultimately, they are not friends.

Maybe is me, but to be together in a real relationship you must be both lovers and friends. That's why so many people yearn to see Clark with Lois as the relationship is portrayed in the Comics. In the Comics, clois is shown as both friendship and love. So if you ask me the best relationship for Clark I would say: Comics Clois. But in Smallville we haven't see this kind of relationship. Maybe, at this point, the only relationship Clark can have is this superficial relationship he has with Lana. I just want to stress that this is not Lana's fault: if she is now keeping things from him too, is because she doesn't feel him trusting her, so she is starting to trust someone else. Trust is a two way road: if someone doesn't trust you, you start to not trust this same person in return and Lana can feel Clark is not honest with her.

But my real answer for this question, right now, neither. Clark is not ready to trust and really comitt to someone, and he is only going to make him and Lana suffer. He has to grow up and learn to first love and accept himself in order to be able to let himself being loved and accepted. After that, he can have a true relationship with someone. Let's just hope that Smallville Clark some day achieve what Comic's Clark did: a healthy loving relationship.

I'm having a buffy flashback of Chosen someone heard the terrible cookie dough analogy? I guess Clark is something like that right now.:rotfl: Can you just imagine cookie warm dough Clark?

[shy175223]

I agree with everything that you said, but man , with Almiles at the helm, it doesn't look like that's going to happen anytime soon.

[cxianet]

Originally posted by liana
I'm having a buffy flashback of Chosen someone heard the terrible cookie dough analogy? I guess Clark is something like that right now.:rotfl: Can you just imagine cookie warm dough Clark?

:lol:

How come I can actually see that?